@@jjnxyz4368 I thought the MSRP was $42k. Can’t get a M3 for that. However the design is lacking in desirability. One more push and it’ll be a desirable car.
It's the same range as its main competitor, the ID.4. This car is basically for anyone that likes the ID.4 but doesn't want to reward evil German companies who cheat emission regulations. The larger range of similarly appointed Ioniq's or Mach E's costs $5k-$10k more.
Agree, just a cosmetic upgrade with a full-time battery (instead of hybrid) that is outdated and impractical short-range charge. Anything else is the same as Rav4.
@@franki3Ru550 I’ve owned six or so Toyotas in the past. If they can build quality ICEVs my guess the BEVs are even better due to fewer moving parts. But the engine compartment did look extremely cluttered.
I’m kind of disappointed, to be honest. I expected a lot more from Toyota. This may have been okay if it were a 2016 model year, but for 2023, it’s lacking. I never thought I’d see the day when Hyundai/KIA offered better quality, tech, and value than Toyota (or any other manufacturer, for that matter). Toyota and Mazda need to get with the program!
You zombies don't understand the GAME of monopoly, FIRST of ALL like Mercedes like Volkswagen etcetera they can't cannibalize Rothschild tesla the head of the agenda 21 car's industry standards, WAKE up TURN OFF TELEVISION.
@@jjnxyz4368 No, not all Hyundais and Kias have "very bumpy" rides. I would say there's a bit more noticeable refinement in Toyotas (and Hondas) than Hyundais and Kias. But they're pretty close currently. And Hyundai's styling is way more daring and interesting.
As long as its more affordable than a Tesla because with Tesla constantly raising their prices I can not afford one. If they are wanting us all to go the EV route than they need to start making these things affordable for the average consumer.
They just announced the price: $43K for the front wheel drive base, $2K extra for AWD. The more loaded limited trim is up at $47K. It's effectively a non-starter against the rest of the EV crossovers in the price range, especially considering Toyota's federal tax credit eligibility will be phasing out when it arrives. Should have been mid-$30Ks for the base, and $43K for the loaded versions.
Totally agree. Ioniq 5, ID.4, and ev6 all have better range, charging, speed, space, and more features for similar price. If this was 40 or less it would do amazing.
Starts at $42k . AWD base is $44,080. Destination on top of each. Just a slight correction, but I agree with your overall assessment. The Solterra is supposed to come in around $40k from what I read with base AWD so I am scratching my head how this makes sense even compared to that, which is the same car from what we have seen.
@@belavet I was including destination: that's CNET's total combined price from their story this week. Yeah, I've heard people allege the Solterra will start at $40K too, but that makes absolutely no sense
Toyota waits until 2023 to launch their first EV and this is the best they can do? Seems underwhelming...like it was a vehicle they started in 2018 and didn't update it as technology improved.
It’s clear that the car reviewers don’t want to piss off Toyota because none of them are commenting on how ridiculous this car is. Every single EV that is out there is better than this in every way. Only a Toyota fan would buy this.
Well to be completely fair it is better than the fiat 500e, mine Cooper e, Mazda mx-30 ev with 120 mile range etc. But Toyota is also almost into the sunset phase for tax credits. So expect people to grab the subaru version by the end of this year instead.
@@4literv6 Better range maybe but not cost. At least before all the supply issues, you could get a MINI SE for ~$20k. With my local cost of gas and electricity, I save about $0.13 a mile vs a 30mpg average. At the end of the 100k mile battery warranty, my MINI will have a total cost of ownership equivalent to a $6.5k gas car (ignoring all the maintenance a 6.5k gas car would have over 100k miles). Pretty hard to beat for a fun commuter!
The deal breaker for this vehicle is the efficiency, 220 miles from a 70kW battery pack is terrible and then having a max recharge rate of 100kW makes any road trip painful to deal with.
@@enadegheeghaghe6369 It's only pathetic after someone actually takes it for a real distance test, otherwise it's just keyboard experts that have no clue what it is actually capable of...
@@gregb1599 what? Virtually all BEVs have been range tested by numerous reviewers and critics so we know what the competition can do. Are you suggesting that this vehicle will have a better range and will charge faster than Toyota themselves have stated? You saying Toyota lied to us about the specs to make the vehicle look much worse than it is? What are you on about? Talking like the actual real world performance of BEVs are some kind of sacred secret or something. No matter how you slice it this was an underwhelming effort from Toyota. And I am a big Toyota fan
The blacked out areas spoil the entire car in my opinion. I just would not be able to get past that. I don't know why most manufacturers still think EVs need to look ridiculous. Make them look like a normal car and they are more appealing. The charging rate is not that good either, and the AWD larger battery charging slower makes no sense. Crap first attempt form Toyota in my opinion.
Actually, Toyota had an RAV4 EV back around 2000 and again in 2010 limited to the California market. Interesting is that the 2010 had a Tesla power train as they had invested in Tesla and cashed out when the RAV4 EV was no more.
@@suserman7775 It will be way better than that.. And it does not charge that slow. ID4 is 127KW.. the BZ4X FWD version is 150KW, and we wont know really until we see a charging curve test done. Tesla had to back way down on Model S85 charging speeds.. due to failures. Toyota will NOT tolerate that. Also.. 99% of the time your charging at home. So once or twice per year.. you MIGHT take longer to charge on a road trip than an EV6 or Ioniq5. I will gladly trade long term reliability for a faster charge. My current Toyota Hybrid has 396,000 on the original battery..
Exactly! I would have said $35K to account for the size, but as an EV, the closer competitor to this truly is the Bolt EUV, which isn't even a real crossover.
I really hate what Toyota has done with front end look in recent years and a lot of models. Going from the cylon look to agressive complicated angular and now this bull nose is just scary. Get some new designers or new execs.
Since Toyota has always been against EVs, I think they purposely hindered the charging rate to ruin the ownership experience of those who buy one. The charging rate seems 3 years behind everyone else
"We made a lackluster EV to show you EVs are bad" seems like a colossal waste of money, not to mention providing a direct avenue for all of your competition to one up you.
@Alfred Wedmore Toyota has lobbied against high fuel efficiency and the move to EVs. They have clearly tried to slow the transition away from gas's guzzlers
@@_CarlosA OR, as a major provider of electrified vehicles, they were concerned about extreme market forces, rising battery costs, and the effect on their bottom line?
Please, i need some profissional help here. I am a taxi driver in Portugal, and i’ve reserved the Toyota BZ4X. But as you know, i need good backspace for passengers and i need a big trunk space. So now i am in doubt of buying the Toyota or the Hyundai Ioniq 5 (same price - but with leather seats and Bose sound), or wait until the upcoming new Niro EV (cheaper). My favourite was EV6 but only next year is available, and don’t have the same praticality of ioniq 5, and I don’t now if the range is so much better. Toyota don’t have a frunk neither a glove box. Can you help me telling me what’s the best car (brand) in terms of range, Technology (security) and realibility? Toyota warranty is 10 years or 1.000.000kms, and that for a taxi makes me think twice. I am afraid that the cluster visibility is not good because of sitting positition. Many thanks. I follow your work here on RUclips. Thanks for your reviews…
configuration tool worked for me. The last step stills says that though and wants me to call the dealer lol. Base AWD with destination comes out to $45,295. Shave another $10k off and I'd be in but it is a non-starter for me at that price. 🤑
@@belavet well its cheaper then a Model Y. the average transaction cost for passenger vehicle is about 40,000. i dont like the fender flares and the drivers side dash looks too odd for me.
I am glad I purchase the Ioniq 5 instead of waiting for this Toyota car. I would have been disappointed I went from 20 to 80 percent just watching this video and another short video.
Hey guys, it turns out every car company needs to have an EV! Quick, go down and scrounge up some batteries etc and get something on the road so we can say we have EV's! and are world class still!
Just a note regarding all EV ranges. 90% of drivers use their vehicles just to commute to work. Maybe around 60 kms per day. This means you will never have to go to a charging station because your EV charged overnight at home. For those occasional yearly road trips, rent an ICE or a hybrid. We just have to change our perception.
Not sold on the cabin size. Would like to see Nathan or Andre or Zach take it for a cruise and get their impressions on seating comfort. Cockpit feel. Looks a bit unforgiving for the non small framed crowd.
I am thinking that the slow charging is going to pay dividends to battery life. Thus the 10 year unlimited mile warranty. I have been wondering how the batteries of the cars that charge very quickly are going to fare over the long term if one charges on fast chargers a lot.
For the majority of EV owners, this is not an issue as most of the charging is done on an L2 charger at home. L3 charging is done while traveling. I think you are correct for those people who rely on public chargers. Toyota seems to following the same path as Chevy did with the Bolt.
@@alanpeterson6768 yes, most charging is done at home, but the model with the slower charging- the AWD model- is being specifically marketed towards people who will be taking it for trips and overlanding. The home charge argument loses some steam. Paradoxically, the front wheel drive Model has the better charging, making it more suited for trips. If anything, the front wheel drive should have gotten the worse charging battery with the focus on home charging, and the AWD model should have gotten the better charging battery to make it road trip worthy
The time for first steps was about a decade ago. This is a sign of a declining Toyota, in my opinion. Stubborn and lacking aspiration; a stark contrast to the Toyota that brought us such feats as the Prius and first RAV4 EV.
@@rickjames5998 I tend to agree with you - they were looking to go the route of hydrogen power and didn't fully follow the BEV trend. They realised they made a mistake and are now using their expertise that they ploughed into their previous cross-over vechicles to help them get back on the wagon to release a entry level mass BEV. In the background they were tentatively making slow but steady progress in the BEV direction (ie. Solid State Battery Development) but were more massively focused on Hydrogen allowing others manufacturers to get ahead in releasing and developing BEV models. So the BZ4x is a decent, perhaps lightly tentative first model but by no means the extent of what Toyota can do. Now that they've realised that they have to move forward with BEV's, they've ploughed a heck of a lot of money recently in that direction and will likely make strides in the next few years.
Car seems fine, but when you tick all the boxes, there's the Ioniq 5, EV6, Mach-E, Polestar and ID.4 each of which can be had at various trims for ~50k. All pretty objectively superior to this. The only use case for this Toyota/Subbie is if you live on a dirt road. And I mean road. Everyone else should look elsewhere.
People will buy this for the Toyota name alone. The Koreans have had issues w/ fires and only time will tell if they've solved that. Until the, I wouldn't park one inside my home.
TFL thanks for bring Great Content, But all these EV's are Not Available, Way Too Expensive for the average Joe and the other dealer gets like 4 vehicles per month and 10 people trying to buy with $10K markup over MSRP
I wonder what Munro would say if/when they take one apart. Probably too many cables, lack of integration of parts etc. Obviously if Toyota does commit they have the $$$ and brains to pull it together before it's too late.
@@athienit Akio Toyoda spent so much energy resisting EV adoption, they have no choice but to double down to catch up and stay somewhat competitive in the space. They will do ok even with marginal range and packaging because of their brand and dealer network as long as more startups like Lucid and new market entrants like VinFast are not overly successful.
We came from a Rav4, the headroom is a bit less in the BZ. My husband is 6'3' and he could use more room. With that said, the leg room in the front and back is a bit more. We are happy. In our 4000 miles, we are averaging 4-4.2 mi/kwh with our Limited, averaging 260 miles per 100% charge.
It seems very average but isn’t that what Toyota is about? Maybe this will be another 300,000+ mile Toyota while the other EV’s will fall flat at 100-150k miles because they have too fast of charging, or the regen is too aggressive on the motors over time
Tommy, When you are stopped at a light you are suppose to have your foot on the brake for safety, in case you get rear ended you won’t be pushed into the vehicle in front of you or into the intersection.
In Britain when stopped at a light you are expected to be in neutral with the parking brake applied if in a manual or in park if in an automatic. Just keeping your foot on the brake pedal is insufficient to stop forward motion if rear ended. An impact from the rear will lift reduce the pressure on the brake pedal with the inevitable result..
@@philipgrice1026 it depends on how hard you get hit, but brakes are better than nothing. No one in the States is going to put a car and neutral with the parking brake on every time they stop.
@@niceguyrides In Britain it's not required during casual, momentary stops but is required by law when stopping at a traffic light controlled intersection where you expect to be stopped for more than a few seconds. It is for your own safety after all. Applying the hand brake is done as the vehicle comes to a stop. Once stopped the driver can remove their foot from the brake pedal and relax, but keeping their hand on the hand brake. As the light turns green the brake is released and the throttle depressed easily. It is even better for drivers of manual transmission cars as they can manage the clutch pedal without needing to deal with the brake pedal. Your comment about US drivers is an example of why most US drivers couldn't pass a UK driving test even after three attempts and never pass a German driving examination in their entire lifetime. The attitude is wrong. Considering the fact that driving motorized vehicles badly can result in death and destruction US drivers are far too casual about driving well. It also explains why so many Americans die in traffic accidents every year. The sooner we have autonomous cars the better, except I expect most US drivers will not use the feature as they will be afraid of it. Most Americans I know won't even use cruise control as they are afraid of it. That is evidence of just how little confidence they have in their driving skills. I suggest you watch car drivers as they approach traffic lights. You'll notice that many brake even though the lights are green. A couple of people I've managed to ask why they do that said "because the light may change", which is ridiculous. They don't accelerate when approaching red lights as they might change.
@@yodesuyo Because localized rear end damage may be repaired more easily than rear and front end damage. You may even be able to drive it away. Your way the car is likely to be declared a write off and the odds are high that the imbecile that hits you has no insurance and is quite possibly not holding a current driving license, is under the influence or most likely texting on their cell phone, taking down directions while eating Chinese take-away using chop sticks and holding a scalding hot cup of McDonalds coffee. Or they may be undocumented immigrants attempting to escape the INS car chasing them at above highway speed limits. Good luck with your insurance claim. I drive quickly but I also drive and stop defensively.
At 40k ish they will sell millions of these. It does the things most people need and you can get good service and it is well built. After dealing with Tesla's terrible quality and service, this would be a Godsend.
Its fine for what it is, but i doubt they are able to build many of them. be honest..Tesla is going to be the leader for years because of the head start they had on everyone else.
Yeah a head start, but a company like Toyota will eventually catch up and surpass them. People forget that Toyota is very conservative and they want to be able to sell to a broad range of customers.
I am glad that Toyota is finally aboard with EV's. That was a long time coming. They seem to have throw their weight at Hydrogen propulsion for a while. That was like a dead end road. They did not pursue battery cars because there was some kind of dispute with the Chinese who one way or another kept the Japanese from acquiring batteries or batterie materials. If somebody has more info on this ,please fill me in on that. I think Toyota was willing to enter the EV game earlier but the Chinese kept them from doing that.
Toyota felt for the world EV market was flawed. EV’s were expensive and like almost all EV’s today are very expensive and aren’t marketed to a mass market. Toyota put their money in hybrid models that in developing countries and places were very little electrification was available hybrids with small gas engines with a battery ie Rav 4 prime is the answer. The Prime gets close to 42 mpg and almost 30 miles on the battery. Until battery tech and efficiency matures this is what i would consider. Hyundai has thier hybrid Tucson that has close to a 700 mile battery and gas range. All EV’s Teslas are so expensive and with their range issues and other EV’s have he same issues. I will pass on this and probably the next gen of EV’s till price range and charging is improved.
I guess they couldn't get enough of either battery so had to split between the two. The faster charge pack should have gone to the more expensive AWD model.
@@rkgsd Another option? Yes, there are plenty of options to buying a Tesla these days. Why would anyone buy this though? NOT a game changer, unless, like I said, you're only considering Toyotas.
I think it's actually a good idea that the regen brakes don't bring you to a full stop and you have to use the normal brakes. It has been found that if you only use regen, the normal brakes tend to seize from lack of use. Especially in cold climates with salt used for keeping the roads clear. Just an observation from the Great White North.
Tesla had to upgrade the alloy in their brake parts, like the rotors so they corroded less. Additionally, when it regens, the electric motors only get you down to about 5mph. Then the vehicle floats. Tesla programed in the application of friction brakes for that last 5mph. I love the one pedal driving, but new drivers need to learn the brake pedal, before they use it. You can't be figuring out where that pedal is at in an effort emergency. Oh, and mine is dual motor, and I have it programed to hold, not creep, so I can rest my foot on the go pedal at a red light. 😉
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I am writing to you from Germany. I now want to order a BZ4X, but it has a major disadvantage. The charging power AC is currently 6.6 kW. If you could increase that to at least 11kW it would be perfect because all new cars have a minimum of 11kW. With 6.6 kW, it takes a long time to charge the battery. Please forward this feedback to Toyota headquarters. Kind regards mahin
I would choose this Toyota over all other EV's. Better build and the battery will hold forever. Don't compare this car to a Tesla. It's not build to be the fastest or having all the gimmicks the others have. It's just a solid EV.
The dashboard area in front of the driver looks like the display is installed in a riding lawnmower seat. Combined with the awful exterior I wonder if Toyota is worried they won't be able to produce an electric vehicle in large quantities and instructed their stylists to make sure that wouldn't be a problem.
And so goes the story of the electric car, as brought to you by legacy automakers. The ball has already started rolling on EVs, so botching offers in order to make them appealing will hurt them in the long run. Toyota and Mazda are so far behind at this point.
@@evanmarshall322 You got it. They talk about selling lots of EVs by 2030. Meanwhile they sell out of any EVs that they currently produce. They have fought hard to keep selling us ever more powerful gas vehicles though. The Tesla model S has been around for 10 years and the legacy automakers are still dragging their feet on EVs.
I imagine the execs seeing the car for the first time, "I hate the front, it is very ugly." Then the designer steps up enthusiastically, "Wait util you see the dashboard!"
Respectfully, that model Y starts at $20k more. You can buy the bz4x and a corolla for that. And that's actually sad, because I don't think the bz4x presents a good value, for what it is, honestly. I don't think Toyota is trying to complete directly with Tesla any more than they've been competing directly with BMW, but the cars they ARE competing with in terms of price point and amenities seem to beat this bz4x in most ways.
Because this is 1 of the 15 EV Toyota announced. This isn’t even their performance lineup. Also, the more power you pull, the more heat you produce which increases stress on the battery and cause more lithium to leave the anode and permanently bonding, which reduces capacity. Hence why it is not recommended to supercharge your Tesla as well as flooring your Tesla every chance you get.
Toyota clearly doesn’t understand the actual buyer or they would know that less than 300 miles of range isn’t going to excite very many. The exterior is profoundly unappealing interior, meh and where do they come up with these colors?????? So drab. All of it. Hugely missed opportunity.
I've noticed car makers that are resisting going all in on EVs are making their EVs intentionally uglier than the gas offerings. BMW was king of this and are still adding a blue line to scare off style conscious shoppers. On this car the black fenders and the dash is a clear indication Toyota does not want this car to "prove them wrong" and embarrass them. I understood this concept when it was designed to force customers up the line to more expensive gas cars but when you do that on all your EVs it indicates they don't want these things to be too popular and draw sales from mass production models.
People that don't like the styling doesn't understand what futuristic is.. all they understand is a 2019 Dodge Caravan with yellow bulbs.. they want the normal boring look for the next 1000 years lol
Toyota gets a solid C for this car. Still needs a lot of refining all around and at least another 100 miles in range. Would like to understand its ADAS capabilities and plans.
Also 200 more HP and free, right? 100 miles in range isn't free. Toyota still qualifies for the tax credits, unlike Tesla. They made sacrifices to keep this in the $30-$40k range which makes it pretty competitive with similarly appointed ICE vehicles. 220 mi range is more than adequate for the vast majority of people with any experience driving an EV. There are very little circumstances where 300 mile range gets you anything else in practice. If you're driving more than 220 mi for your daily commute it's time to switch jobs.
My old '99 Isuzu Rodeo had a vent under the steering wheel that was a great feature. Blew warm or cool air onto your legs that felt wonderful when it was cold or hot out.
Future is looking bright! I put those Bridgestone Turanzas on my Y and they are excellent! Should definitely last the test of time. Looking forward to the Subaru EV based on this platform as well! Nice review dude.
I wanted to know what your height is, and when you are standing next to the vehicle, where is the seat relative to your body? (And is the chair most down or up or in the middle)
I don’t understand why the emphasis on peak charging watts. Just give the overall charge time. You can have a vehicle with high peak charging to 80% but the last 20% is greatly reduced. A lower peak charge to the first 80% might not seem that great but the last 20% has improved numbers. So, while on paper the lower peak charging watts looks notable- how does it translate to overall charge to to 100%? Can I get more miles in less time is another question.
When they figure out a cvt paired electric AWD... They'll really have something. It will multiply torque as well as save power at cruising speed by doing the opposite.
Toyota’s sell just fine without being the fastest or being flashy. It’s what the mainstream and affluent buyers alike, want. Toyota’s value prop has always been reliability and functionality. A family vehicle, commuter car or grandma’s car do not need to hit 0-60 under 5 seconds. Most EV’s are charged at home and overnight. I know this won’t get the clicks that most influencers crave but to call it a rush to market product or dates tech is stretch.
@@normt430 Perhaps but they do know how to manufacture and build a quality product. Toyota has been the leader in hybrid technology which have high reliability. 10% battery degradation over 10 yrs sounds like a pretty good start. Yes, Toyota is a legacy automaker but they lead sales volumes in ICE and hybrids. Sun setting profitable products is a long roadmap.
I don't think speed and flash are the issue here. They are range and refueling time. Assuming you get 100kW peak 0-100% that's just under 45 minutes a charge. That's best case in ideal conditions. Maybe people genuinely do decide this car is worth it just for their weekly commute. I am not an alarmist by any stretch, but I am disappointed with the specs compared to the price point. If this thing were $10k cheaper it would be a no-brainer.
I know if I buy this EV, it is not able performance or charging time or range, it is about Toyota reliability and familiarity. My wife or I couldn’t care less about 4s 0-60, 15 minutes charging time or whatever. We have a ICE SUV for road trips.
@@jml9550 must be nice to have disposable income to pay more for a Toyota. My Toyita loving inlaws found out the hard way when their 2012 Camry V6 engine seized with a broken cam sprocket with a $4,000 bill. Most of their family has all had Toyota's and left when quality declined and value was not there.
Well the range, charging and price at the top end are the obvious weak points. Otherwise I like this better than everything else in the segment. The lack of towing is another weakness though. Probably won't have a hard time moving the few they sell, my partner has already reserved one.
Seems decent. Hard to justify switching from a Tesla over to this though. I got the Tesla before any of these other companies even announced vehicles but seeing them in these videos they don't really beat out the Tesla (unless you are looking for a truck, offroad stuff in the hummer or rivian).
Tesla still ranks yearly nearly at the bottom when it comes to build quality and reliability despite ranking very high in customer satisfaction. According to Consumer Report, electric-vehicle maker Tesla, which is now worth more than $1 trillion, ranked 27th out of the 28 brands Consumer Reports considered this year (2021). Lincoln was the sole brand that got a lower reliability score from the nonprofit organization. Consumer Reports uses surveys to find out the types of issues vehicle owners have experienced in the last 12 months. It uses that data to predict how reliable carmakers' 2022 models will be and gives each vehicle a score. Reliability ratings show how well vehicles hold up over time, and how likely vehicle problems or repairs will inconvenience the owner. The survey relies on data collected from Consumer Reports members on their experience with over 300,000 vehicles. Tesla ranked in the bottom three of 28 auto brands at 27th, while Lexus, Mazda, and Toyota vehicles ranked in the top 3. Tesla’s Model Y, Model X, and Model S were all reported to have body hardware problems, receiving below-average reliability scores. Not everybody wants to deal with Tesla's hilariously bad build quality and reliability. Consumers now have a choice to buy a Toyota EV instead.
I think a lot of folks who are hesitant about electric cars when it's just Tesla will feel better with Ford, Toyota, et al, producing them as well. You have to build up confidence in the tech more broadly and this helps.
@@electrikoptik I agree that build quality issues are still there over the years but once you hop into interior you are gonna forget all the flaws because tesla will definitely handle better than this Toyota and they are truly a looker while this b4z just looks and feels like another Toyota
"Hard to justify switching from a Tesla over to this though." Why would you? Tesla Model Y is a luxury car. The bZ4X isn't. If you were going to switch out your Tesla, it would be for a Lexus equivalent of this. Y'all need to stop comparing everything to Tesla.
Think I'd like the gentle regenerative braking. One ride in my friend's Kona with more aggressive regeneration was hellish with my chronic neck issues and an hour of driving caused me terrible pain and a couple of days of headache.
I own the Kona, the regeneration is user configurable also he may have been using the paddles to slow down quicker. If you set it to low or zero regenerative, or I suspect just left it in normal your experience would be closer to the BZ4X or a ICE vehicle.
Great video thank you BUT…Is it normal for you to take both hands off the steering wheel while you are driving? In the U.K. you would get charged with dangerous driving. Take care.
EV fans love to dismiss this and Toyota in general. But knowning Toyota, it will sell and sell very good. If buyers wanted a performance model the company will bring out a performance car in the near future. This is a good start for a relatively good EV.
I doubt Toyota will bring out a performance EV anytime soon. Toyota is very co conservative. If you want a performance EV, get the Tesla or EV6 GT. Toyota is more Ioniq 5 and id4.
@@TheLastMoccasin I think so too. There are many loyal Toyota and conservative customers (older/more disposable income?) whom goes for familiar design and interior layouts. They don’t necessarily need the most up to date tech or features. Also the demographics who buys this EV are home owners will access to home charger and use it as a commuter and running errands. As far as capacity to build more, yeah it won’t be hugh numbers until Toyota’s own battery factory is up and running full scale, which will happen in the next few years.
@@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel most folks who buys Toyota cares more about reliability than style. I think this EV looks great, style is very subjective BTW.
@@jml9550 we bought a 2022 Tundra for the reliability. With EVs there is less chance to set yourself apart as a company for reliability. The battery and motor technology is the same or very similar among the EV companies.
Your battery warranty info is misleading, you should have mentioned the degradation part which is industry leading. Toyota is covering the battery for 10 years 160k will have lost no more than 10% and 660k 30%. No one else comes close. Out of spec lost 11% at 100k so this part of the warranty is huge.
I have read that Toyota can control the temp of individual cells in the pack which they say is why they can offer the warranty. But when you think about it by offering this warranty they have to be confident that the car will have something in the range of 95% at 160k miles. Because if was even close to 90% at that point people would be abusing the pack to get a free battery replacement.
Nice review Tommy. While the performance specs and styling are quite disappointing, I believe this vehicle will be one that convinces many "EV reluctant" buyers to finally make the switch from gasoline, because of the Toyota badge. IMO.
@@alanpeterson6768 I don’t think so. Some will drive it til the wheels fall of while others will want more performance & feel comfortable enough with the technology to explore other options.
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Low range, no glovebox, no frunk, quirky styling.. This is just a compliance car. A true disappointment from Toyota.
@@jjnxyz4368 I thought the MSRP was $42k. Can’t get a M3 for that. However the design is lacking in desirability. One more push and it’ll be a desirable car.
It's the same range as its main competitor, the ID.4. This car is basically for anyone that likes the ID.4 but doesn't want to reward evil German companies who cheat emission regulations.
The larger range of similarly appointed Ioniq's or Mach E's costs $5k-$10k more.
Agree, just a cosmetic upgrade with a full-time battery (instead of hybrid) that is outdated and impractical short-range charge. Anything else is the same as Rav4.
Maybe quality is not that great.. you have to admit that the car looks futuristic
@@franki3Ru550 I’ve owned six or so Toyotas in the past. If they can build quality ICEVs my guess the BEVs are even better due to fewer moving parts. But the engine compartment did look extremely cluttered.
I’m kind of disappointed, to be honest. I expected a lot more from Toyota. This may have been okay if it were a 2016 model year, but for 2023, it’s lacking.
I never thought I’d see the day when Hyundai/KIA offered better quality, tech, and value than Toyota (or any other manufacturer, for that matter). Toyota and Mazda need to get with the program!
@@jjnxyz4368 Let me guess, you haven't driven a Hyunai/Kia and lived under a rock since the 90's?
Looks wise it looks futuristic
You zombies don't understand the GAME of monopoly, FIRST of ALL like Mercedes like Volkswagen etcetera they can't cannibalize Rothschild tesla the head of the agenda 21 car's industry standards, WAKE up TURN OFF TELEVISION.
@@jjnxyz4368 No, not all Hyundais and Kias have "very bumpy" rides. I would say there's a bit more noticeable refinement in Toyotas (and Hondas) than Hyundais and Kias. But they're pretty close currently. And Hyundai's styling is way more daring and interesting.
These probably won't spontaneously catch on fire and the company asking you to park your car outside just in case until they figure things out.
As long as its more affordable than a Tesla because with Tesla constantly raising their prices I can not afford one. If they are wanting us all to go the EV route than they need to start making these things affordable for the average consumer.
agree...
They just announced the price: $43K for the front wheel drive base, $2K extra for AWD. The more loaded limited trim is up at $47K. It's effectively a non-starter against the rest of the EV crossovers in the price range, especially considering Toyota's federal tax credit eligibility will be phasing out when it arrives. Should have been mid-$30Ks for the base, and $43K for the loaded versions.
Totally agree. Ioniq 5, ID.4, and ev6 all have better range, charging, speed, space, and more features for similar price. If this was 40 or less it would do amazing.
That's Lexus money!
Starts at $42k . AWD base is $44,080. Destination on top of each. Just a slight correction, but I agree with your overall assessment. The Solterra is supposed to come in around $40k from what I read with base AWD so I am scratching my head how this makes sense even compared to that, which is the same car from what we have seen.
@@belavet when a Equinox EV will be $30K and a $25K smaller CUV EV, this is Lexus money!
@@belavet I was including destination: that's CNET's total combined price from their story this week. Yeah, I've heard people allege the Solterra will start at $40K too, but that makes absolutely no sense
Toyota waits until 2023 to launch their first EV and this is the best they can do? Seems underwhelming...like it was a vehicle they started in 2018 and didn't update it as technology improved.
The market doesn't work that way
It’s clear that the car reviewers don’t want to piss off Toyota because none of them are commenting on how ridiculous this car is. Every single EV that is out there is better than this in every way. Only a Toyota fan would buy this.
Well to be completely fair it is better than the fiat 500e, mine Cooper e, Mazda mx-30 ev with 120 mile range etc.
But Toyota is also almost into the sunset phase for tax credits. So expect people to grab the subaru version by the end of this year instead.
@@4literv6 Better range maybe but not cost.
At least before all the supply issues, you could get a MINI SE for ~$20k. With my local cost of gas and electricity, I save about $0.13 a mile vs a 30mpg average. At the end of the 100k mile battery warranty, my MINI will have a total cost of ownership equivalent to a $6.5k gas car (ignoring all the maintenance a 6.5k gas car would have over 100k miles). Pretty hard to beat for a fun commuter!
This might become the most reliable. Also wireless carplay on the base model is nice and charging port near the front is handy for carpark chargers.
It's aimed at the middle aged and up buyers. Who trust Toyota and nothing else. Not the ones who think Tesla is cool
The deal breaker for this vehicle is the efficiency, 220 miles from a 70kW battery pack is terrible and then having a max recharge rate of 100kW makes any road trip painful to deal with.
Range and efficiency is the worst. Very disappointing from Toyota!
But is it true range and not like so many that claim higher range only to have low real world driving range...
@@gregb1599 even so it's still pathetic compared to others
@@enadegheeghaghe6369 It's only pathetic after someone actually takes it for a real distance test, otherwise it's just keyboard experts that have no clue what it is actually capable of...
@@gregb1599 what? Virtually all BEVs have been range tested by numerous reviewers and critics so we know what the competition can do. Are you suggesting that this vehicle will have a better range and will charge faster than Toyota themselves have stated? You saying Toyota lied to us about the specs to make the vehicle look much worse than it is? What are you on about? Talking like the actual real world performance of BEVs are some kind of sacred secret or something. No matter how you slice it this was an underwhelming effort from Toyota. And I am a big Toyota fan
The blacked out areas spoil the entire car in my opinion. I just would not be able to get past that. I don't know why most manufacturers still think EVs need to look ridiculous. Make them look like a normal car and they are more appealing. The charging rate is not that good either, and the AWD larger battery charging slower makes no sense. Crap first attempt form Toyota in my opinion.
Actually, Toyota had an RAV4 EV back around 2000 and again in 2010 limited to the California market. Interesting is that the 2010 had a Tesla power train as they had invested in Tesla and cashed out when the RAV4 EV was no more.
under powered ✔
outdated technolgy ✔
overpriced ✔
its a true toyota
When you build an EV without the love of EVs. Not worth it.
128-140 miles of winter range is just not enough for $47k. 214 EPA is just too low.
I actually like the way this looks, which is something I've almost never said about a Toyota!
the camry doesn't look bad.
its just an uglier rav4 wtf lol
You have awful taste in vehicles. This is hideous
Low range and slow charging, it is almost like Toyota doesn’t want to sell EVs.
High range and high power compared to the EV6 base version, at a similar price.
Reminds me of the Rav4 which is strangely the #1 selling SUV in the world.
I’d go for the ioniq 5
Range and charging speed are far behind the competition and this car isn't even on the market yet. The rest is nice.
Range and charging are programed for longevity.
@@jayhiggins5239 yeah it'll have 1 percent more longevity in exchange for lackluster performance.
no it is not fool
Agree, certainly wouldn't pay $50k for this when EV6 and Ioniq 5 are available.
@@suserman7775
It will be way better than that.. And it does not charge that slow. ID4 is 127KW.. the BZ4X FWD version is 150KW, and we wont know really until we see a charging curve test done.
Tesla had to back way down on Model S85 charging speeds.. due to failures. Toyota will NOT tolerate that. Also.. 99% of the time your charging at home. So once or twice per year.. you MIGHT take longer to charge on a road trip than an EV6 or Ioniq5.
I will gladly trade long term reliability for a faster charge.
My current Toyota Hybrid has 396,000 on the original battery..
Feels like it would cost $28k-$32k if the world weren't on fire.
Exactly! I would have said $35K to account for the size, but as an EV, the closer competitor to this truly is the Bolt EUV, which isn't even a real crossover.
That price is outside of the goldilocks zone
It’s too high for a RAV4
I really hate what Toyota has done with front end look in recent years and a lot of models. Going from the cylon look to agressive complicated angular and now this bull nose is just scary. Get some new designers or new execs.
I like the bull nose look though...
Cramped, lower range, lethargic(compared to a Mach e) and pricey. Sounds like a winner
I can only hope it keeps Toyota’s reliability trend with all the trade offs
troll
But Biden said having a $1000 a month car payment, is the only way to save $80 a month on gas.
Yep. I sure wouldn't give up my Ioniq 5 for it.
I like this calm and low-key review, thanks.
How is it compared to Ioniq 5 or EV6?
Both are better than bz4x absolutely
Since Toyota has always been against EVs, I think they purposely hindered the charging rate to ruin the ownership experience of those who buy one. The charging rate seems 3 years behind everyone else
Toyota is conservative. Charge rate is adjusted for an extra margin of safety and longevity.
"We made a lackluster EV to show you EVs are bad" seems like a colossal waste of money, not to mention providing a direct avenue for all of your competition to one up you.
@Alfred Wedmore Toyota has lobbied against high fuel efficiency and the move to EVs. They have clearly tried to slow the transition away from gas's guzzlers
@@_CarlosA OR, as a major provider of electrified vehicles, they were concerned about extreme market forces, rising battery costs, and the effect on their bottom line?
Please, i need some profissional help here. I am a taxi driver in Portugal, and i’ve reserved the Toyota BZ4X. But as you know, i need good backspace for passengers and i need a big trunk space. So now i am in doubt of buying the Toyota or the Hyundai Ioniq 5 (same price - but with leather seats and Bose sound), or wait until the upcoming new Niro EV (cheaper). My favourite was EV6 but only next year is available, and don’t have the same praticality of ioniq 5, and I don’t now if the range is so much better. Toyota don’t have a frunk neither a glove box. Can you help me telling me what’s the best car (brand) in terms of range, Technology (security) and realibility? Toyota warranty is 10 years or 1.000.000kms, and that for a taxi makes me think twice. I am afraid that the cluster visibility is not good because of sitting positition. Many thanks. I follow your work here on RUclips. Thanks for your reviews…
Typical Toyota. Won’t even let me configure to see anything as it’s “extremely limited” in my area and then recommends gas cars.
configuration tool worked for me. The last step stills says that though and wants me to call the dealer lol. Base AWD with destination comes out to $45,295. Shave another $10k off and I'd be in but it is a non-starter for me at that price. 🤑
@@belavet well its cheaper then a Model Y. the average transaction cost for passenger vehicle is about 40,000. i dont like the fender flares and the drivers side dash looks too odd for me.
Seeing and hearing Tommy is always so refreshing. 😊
Here in SoCal I expect dealers will be marking them up 10-20k. So basically more than a Tesla.
Yep! Spend $60,000 to save $80 a month on gas. 😂
The black front fenders do the car no favors. It will be interesting to see what consumers think and the range needs to increase quite a bit.
It’ll be colour depending… some of the ioniq 5 colours look well naff with their silver arches! Just another design fad to suffer through.
I have an HI5 as well and can't imagine driving the bz more than 80 miles from home. In some respects, it's not even as good as my old Bolt.
They're only selling the amount of these that are required by ZEV states. Still a compliance car, just like the MX-30?
I am glad I purchase the Ioniq 5 instead of waiting for this Toyota car. I would have been disappointed I went from 20 to 80 percent just watching this video and another short video.
Hey guys, it turns out every car company needs to have an EV! Quick, go down and scrounge up some batteries etc and get something on the road so we can say we have EV's! and are world class still!
Ask Subaru, maybe they can help us!!!
Is there room mode on bz4x? Also can you use the vehicle as a power source to power something else like a camp site?
Yes, it does have My Room mode.
Just a note regarding all EV ranges. 90% of drivers use their vehicles just to commute to work. Maybe around 60 kms per day. This means you will never have to go to a charging station because your EV charged overnight at home. For those occasional yearly road trips, rent an ICE or a hybrid. We just have to change our perception.
Or, buy a Tesla and use the extensive supercharger network.
Not sold on the cabin size. Would like to see Nathan or Andre or Zach take it for a cruise and get their impressions on seating comfort. Cockpit feel. Looks a bit unforgiving for the non small framed crowd.
Sat in the Subaru equivalent at the Chicago Auto Show and found it to be tight, especially for the right knee- console too big.
How come when the bZ4x is talked about, they don't talk about the optional solar roof you can get?
Hyundai have similar system but doesn’t helpful that much. It’s like little bit useless.
I am thinking that the slow charging is going to pay dividends to battery life. Thus the 10 year unlimited mile warranty. I have been wondering how the batteries of the cars that charge very quickly are going to fare over the long term if one charges on fast chargers a lot.
This has an eight year 100k mile warranty, unless I misheard? EDIT: Toyota's web page confirms the 8 year 100k mile warranty.
You are right. Eight year, 100,000 miles on the traction battery. My bad.
For the majority of EV owners, this is not an issue as most of the charging is done on an L2 charger at home. L3 charging is done while traveling. I think you are correct for those people who rely on public chargers. Toyota seems to following the same path as Chevy did with the Bolt.
@@alanpeterson6768 yes, most charging is done at home, but the model with the slower charging- the AWD model- is being specifically marketed towards people who will be taking it for trips and overlanding. The home charge argument loses some steam. Paradoxically, the front wheel drive Model has the better charging, making it more suited for trips. If anything, the front wheel drive should have gotten the worse charging battery with the focus on home charging, and the AWD model should have gotten the better charging battery to make it road trip worthy
What is the CATL battery chemistry? I assume the Panasonic is Lithium ion.
All batteries are lithium ion whether NMCA NMC or LiFePO4
Actually, Toyota likes to keep using Nickel Metal Hydride batteries in some of their cars, like the Tundra Hybrid.
How much more does it cost to get one that is fully painted?
😆 🤣
you ar No. 1😄
Did they run out of grey paint?
Game Changer? No. First step, almost.
This thing will be what a musket is to an m16 in like 5 years.
The time for first steps was about a decade ago. This is a sign of a declining Toyota, in my opinion.
Stubborn and lacking aspiration; a stark contrast to the Toyota that brought us such feats as the Prius and first RAV4 EV.
@@evanmarshall322 ooh u make me nervous about that. I like to think toyota is just playing it safe.
@@rickjames5998 I tend to agree with you - they were looking to go the route of hydrogen power and didn't fully follow the BEV trend. They realised they made a mistake and are now using their expertise that they ploughed into their previous cross-over vechicles to help them get back on the wagon to release a entry level mass BEV. In the background they were tentatively making slow but steady progress in the BEV direction (ie. Solid State Battery Development) but were more massively focused on Hydrogen allowing others manufacturers to get ahead in releasing and developing BEV models. So the BZ4x is a decent, perhaps lightly tentative first model but by no means the extent of what Toyota can do. Now that they've realised that they have to move forward with BEV's, they've ploughed a heck of a lot of money recently in that direction and will likely make strides in the next few years.
@@rickjames5998 Reminds me of Hitachi.
@@brynmorgan9294 exactly 💯
Car seems fine, but when you tick all the boxes, there's the Ioniq 5, EV6, Mach-E, Polestar and ID.4 each of which can be had at various trims for ~50k. All pretty objectively superior to this. The only use case for this Toyota/Subbie is if you live on a dirt road. And I mean road. Everyone else should look elsewhere.
Nah, the Koreans and the ID4 are not superior to this.
People will buy this for the Toyota name alone. The Koreans have had issues w/ fires and only time will tell if they've solved that. Until the, I wouldn't park one inside my home.
@@sammydavis991 You're going to be very alone with this opinion. But, someones gotta buy it 😅
@@sammydavis991 Open your eyes. This car is at least three years behind Hyundai and Volkswagen.
Toyota does detune everything for longevity/ reliability
TFL thanks for bring Great Content, But all these EV's are Not Available, Way Too Expensive for the average Joe and the other dealer gets like 4 vehicles per month and 10 people trying to buy with $10K markup over MSRP
When I see an EV with no or very little frunk, to me that’s a major sign of how far behind they are in their EV engineering.
I wonder what Munro would say if/when they take one apart. Probably too many cables, lack of integration of parts etc. Obviously if Toyota does commit they have the $$$ and brains to pull it together before it's too late.
@@athienit Akio Toyoda spent so much energy resisting EV adoption, they have no choice but to double down to catch up and stay somewhat competitive in the space. They will do ok even with marginal range and packaging because of their brand and dealer network as long as more startups like Lucid and new market entrants like VinFast are not overly successful.
Contra point: E-GMP cars. Small frunks, but otherwise pretty damn advance.
We came from a Rav4, the headroom is a bit less in the BZ. My husband is 6'3' and he could use more room. With that said, the leg room in the front and back is a bit more. We are happy.
In our 4000 miles, we are averaging 4-4.2 mi/kwh with our Limited, averaging 260 miles per 100% charge.
FWD? I just picked up a Limited AWD and the estimated range is creeping up and up.
It seems very average but isn’t that what Toyota is about? Maybe this will be another 300,000+ mile Toyota while the other EV’s will fall flat at 100-150k miles because they have too fast of charging, or the regen is too aggressive on the motors over time
Well Toyota claims 90% battery retention in 10 years.
Maybe, which I doubt, but would you pay $50.000 for that?
@@ladrakeus9252 $50k? Nope. Ugly interior although reviewer liked it.
please don´t be disappointed because this is the best Toyota can do for now.
Tommy,
When you are stopped at a light you are suppose to have your foot on the brake for safety, in case you get rear ended you won’t be pushed into the vehicle in front of you or into the intersection.
In Britain when stopped at a light you are expected to be in neutral with the parking brake applied if in a manual or in park if in an automatic. Just keeping your foot on the brake pedal is insufficient to stop forward motion if rear ended. An impact from the rear will lift reduce the pressure on the brake pedal with the inevitable result..
If u get rear ended, u need to share ur misfortune with the cars in the front. Why would u want to suffer alone
@@philipgrice1026 it depends on how hard you get hit, but brakes are better than nothing. No one in the States is going to put a car and neutral with the parking brake on every time they stop.
@@niceguyrides In Britain it's not required during casual, momentary stops but is required by law when stopping at a traffic light controlled intersection where you expect to be stopped for more than a few seconds. It is for your own safety after all.
Applying the hand brake is done as the vehicle comes to a stop. Once stopped the driver can remove their foot from the brake pedal and relax, but keeping their hand on the hand brake. As the light turns green the brake is released and the throttle depressed easily. It is even better for drivers of manual transmission cars as they can manage the clutch pedal without needing to deal with the brake pedal.
Your comment about US drivers is an example of why most US drivers couldn't pass a UK driving test even after three attempts and never pass a German driving examination in their entire lifetime. The attitude is wrong.
Considering the fact that driving motorized vehicles badly can result in death and destruction US drivers are far too casual about driving well. It also explains why so many Americans die in traffic accidents every year. The sooner we have autonomous cars the better, except I expect most US drivers will not use the feature as they will be afraid of it. Most Americans I know won't even use cruise control as they are afraid of it. That is evidence of just how little confidence they have in their driving skills.
I suggest you watch car drivers as they approach traffic lights. You'll notice that many brake even though the lights are green. A couple of people I've managed to ask why they do that said "because the light may change", which is ridiculous. They don't accelerate when approaching red lights as they might change.
@@yodesuyo Because localized rear end damage may be repaired more easily than rear and front end damage. You may even be able to drive it away. Your way the car is likely to be declared a write off and the odds are high that the imbecile that hits you has no insurance and is quite possibly not holding a current driving license, is under the influence or most likely texting on their cell phone, taking down directions while eating Chinese take-away using chop sticks and holding a scalding hot cup of McDonalds coffee. Or they may be undocumented immigrants attempting to escape the INS car chasing them at above highway speed limits. Good luck with your insurance claim.
I drive quickly but I also drive and stop defensively.
I feel like Toyota held back on this car.
It’s still very good but I feel like they didn’t go above and beyond on it.
Might consider it if it works with OpenPilot/comma three. I currently drive a Model 3.
At 40k ish they will sell millions of these. It does the things most people need and you can get good service and it is well built. After dealing with Tesla's terrible quality and service, this would be a Godsend.
They’ll only sell millions if they build millions. But that’s not their plan. First year production target is only 7,000 units.
Its fine for what it is, but i doubt they are able to build many of them. be honest..Tesla is going to be the leader for years because of the head start they had on everyone else.
No
Yeah a head start, but a company like Toyota will eventually catch up and surpass them. People forget that Toyota is very conservative and they want to be able to sell to a broad range of customers.
I am glad that Toyota is finally aboard with EV's. That was a long time coming. They seem to have throw their weight at Hydrogen propulsion for a while. That was like a dead end road. They did not pursue battery cars because there was some kind of dispute with the Chinese who one way or another kept the Japanese from acquiring batteries or batterie materials. If somebody has more info on this ,please fill me in on that. I think Toyota was willing to enter the EV game earlier but the Chinese kept them from doing that.
Toyota felt for the world EV market was flawed. EV’s were expensive and like almost all EV’s today are very expensive and aren’t marketed to a mass market. Toyota put their money in hybrid models that in developing countries and places were very little electrification was available hybrids with small gas engines with a battery ie Rav 4 prime is the answer. The Prime gets close to 42 mpg and almost 30 miles on the battery. Until battery tech and efficiency matures this is what i would consider. Hyundai has thier hybrid Tucson that has close to a 700 mile battery and gas range. All EV’s Teslas are so expensive and with their range issues and other EV’s have he same issues. I will pass on this and probably the next gen of EV’s till price range and charging is improved.
I guess they couldn't get enough of either battery so had to split between the two. The faster charge pack should have gone to the more expensive AWD model.
"Game Changer". lol!!! Sure! But only if you live in a Toyota bubble and never look at other brands.
No, it's a game changer as far as Toyota becoming yet another alternative to Tesla.
@@rkgsd Another option? Yes, there are plenty of options to buying a Tesla these days. Why would anyone buy this though? NOT a game changer, unless, like I said, you're only considering Toyotas.
It's quite expensive in Europe compared to the competition.
I think it's actually a good idea that the regen brakes don't bring you to a full stop and you have to use the normal brakes. It has been found that if you only use regen, the normal brakes tend to seize from lack of use. Especially in cold climates with salt used for keeping the roads clear. Just an observation from the Great White North.
Tesla had to upgrade the alloy in their brake parts, like the rotors so they corroded less. Additionally, when it regens, the electric motors only get you down to about 5mph. Then the vehicle floats. Tesla programed in the application of friction brakes for that last 5mph. I love the one pedal driving, but new drivers need to learn the brake pedal, before they use it. You can't be figuring out where that pedal is at in an effort emergency. Oh, and mine is dual motor, and I have it programed to hold, not creep, so I can rest my foot on the go pedal at a red light. 😉
Going to need to replace the missing paint on that bumper!
100KW charging speed is a deal breaker in 2022. More so in Canada where charging cost is by the minute on DC fast chargers
no one cares
@@allentoyokawa9068 Clearly you don't own a BEV.
More than a deal breaker, it’s a joke. As bad as 150kw on the lightning.
Where I live in Canada you can only get 50kW charging…. Hopefully that is going to change.
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am writing to you from Germany. I now want to order a BZ4X, but it has a major disadvantage. The charging power AC is currently 6.6 kW. If you could increase that to at least 11kW it would be perfect because all new cars have a minimum of 11kW. With 6.6 kW, it takes a long time to charge the battery. Please forward this feedback to Toyota headquarters.
Kind regards
mahin
Call Toyota. Sure they will fix that. Not.
It will have a 11kw charger by the end of the year. Japan and South Korea do not have 3-phase powergrid!
Honestly this is crude attempt from Toyota. It shows how far ahead Tesla is.
The body shop didn't have matching gunmetal paint when they replaced the fender.
I would choose this Toyota over all other EV's. Better build and the battery will hold forever. Don't compare this car to a Tesla. It's not build to be the fastest or having all the gimmicks the others have. It's just a solid EV.
Sounds very quiet inside. I wonder how it compares to the Mercedes EQ series for inside noise?
250 mile range?! LMAO 😂
The dashboard area in front of the driver looks like the display is installed in a riding lawnmower seat. Combined with the awful exterior I wonder if Toyota is worried they won't be able to produce an electric vehicle in large quantities and instructed their stylists to make sure that wouldn't be a problem.
Toyota really doesn't want EVs to take off. They would lose the big advantage they have with their ICE vehicles. They've spent billions on R&D.
And so goes the story of the electric car, as brought to you by legacy automakers.
The ball has already started rolling on EVs, so botching offers in order to make them appealing will hurt them in the long run. Toyota and Mazda are so far behind at this point.
@@evanmarshall322 You got it. They talk about selling lots of EVs by 2030. Meanwhile they sell out of any EVs that they currently produce. They have fought hard to keep selling us ever more powerful gas vehicles though. The Tesla model S has been around for 10 years and the legacy automakers are still dragging their feet on EVs.
lol, i was thinking the same thing. maybe a new "parking" feature couples
I imagine the execs seeing the car for the first time, "I hate the front, it is very ugly."
Then the designer steps up enthusiastically, "Wait util you see the dashboard!"
How is Tesla making an all wheel drive model Y with a 300+ range and 5 second 0-60 and no legacy auto maker can come close?
Tesla’s software and battery tech is the best available. Their ability to actually build cars is just poor
Respectfully, that model Y starts at $20k more. You can buy the bz4x and a corolla for that. And that's actually sad, because I don't think the bz4x presents a good value, for what it is, honestly. I don't think Toyota is trying to complete directly with Tesla any more than they've been competing directly with BMW, but the cars they ARE competing with in terms of price point and amenities seem to beat this bz4x in most ways.
Because this is 1 of the 15 EV Toyota announced. This isn’t even their performance lineup.
Also, the more power you pull, the more heat you produce which increases stress on the battery and cause more lithium to leave the anode and permanently bonding, which reduces capacity.
Hence why it is not recommended to supercharge your Tesla as well as flooring your Tesla every chance you get.
Toyota clearly doesn’t understand the actual buyer or they would know that less than 300 miles of range isn’t going to excite very many. The exterior is profoundly unappealing interior, meh and where do they come up with these colors?????? So drab. All of it. Hugely missed opportunity.
I've noticed car makers that are resisting going all in on EVs are making their EVs intentionally uglier than the gas offerings. BMW was king of this and are still adding a blue line to scare off style conscious shoppers. On this car the black fenders and the dash is a clear indication Toyota does not want this car to "prove them wrong" and embarrass them. I understood this concept when it was designed to force customers up the line to more expensive gas cars but when you do that on all your EVs it indicates they don't want these things to be too popular and draw sales from mass production models.
People that don't like the styling doesn't understand what futuristic is.. all they understand is a 2019 Dodge Caravan with yellow bulbs.. they want the normal boring look for the next 1000 years lol
Toyota gets a solid C for this car. Still needs a lot of refining all around and at least another 100 miles in range. Would like to understand its ADAS capabilities and plans.
Also 200 more HP and free, right?
100 miles in range isn't free. Toyota still qualifies for the tax credits, unlike Tesla. They made sacrifices to keep this in the $30-$40k range which makes it pretty competitive with similarly appointed ICE vehicles. 220 mi range is more than adequate for the vast majority of people with any experience driving an EV. There are very little circumstances where 300 mile range gets you anything else in practice. If you're driving more than 220 mi for your daily commute it's time to switch jobs.
My old '99 Isuzu Rodeo had a vent under the steering wheel that was a great feature. Blew warm or cool air onto your legs that felt wonderful when it was cold or hot out.
Future is looking bright! I put those Bridgestone Turanzas on my Y and they are excellent! Should definitely last the test of time. Looking forward to the Subaru EV based on this platform as well! Nice review dude.
Might have to trade in my Prius Prime for this
The competition is rear-wheel drive for base models. This sucks.
I wanted to know what your height is, and when you are standing next to the vehicle, where is the seat relative to your body? (And is the chair most down or up or in the middle)
I don’t understand why the emphasis on peak charging watts. Just give the overall charge time. You can have a vehicle with high peak charging to 80% but the last 20% is greatly reduced. A lower peak charge to the first 80% might not seem that great but the last 20% has improved numbers. So, while on paper the lower peak charging watts looks notable- how does it translate to overall charge to to 100%? Can I get more miles in less time is another question.
Thank you Chinese company, BYD, for making the Japanese EV's!
When is this coming? All these ads say 2022 but that’s like right now and you can’t even order it on the Toyota website
Japan is experiencing horrible supplier and chip issues.
When they figure out a cvt paired electric AWD... They'll really have something. It will multiply torque as well as save power at cruising speed by doing the opposite.
best transmission is no transmission
The TOYOTA design now is MUCH better than the design of a new BMW... What a disappointment.
Toyota’s sell just fine without being the fastest or being flashy. It’s what the mainstream and affluent buyers alike, want. Toyota’s value prop has always been reliability and functionality. A family vehicle, commuter car or grandma’s car do not need to hit 0-60 under 5 seconds. Most EV’s are charged at home and overnight. I know this won’t get the clicks that most influencers crave but to call it a rush to market product or dates tech is stretch.
BEV vehicles will be inherently more reliable than ICE with a transmission. So the Japanese don't have that going forward.
@@normt430 Perhaps but they do know how to manufacture and build a quality product. Toyota has been the leader in hybrid technology which have high reliability. 10% battery degradation over 10 yrs sounds like a pretty good start. Yes, Toyota is a legacy automaker but they lead sales volumes in ICE and hybrids. Sun setting profitable products is a long roadmap.
I don't think speed and flash are the issue here. They are range and refueling time. Assuming you get 100kW peak 0-100% that's just under 45 minutes a charge. That's best case in ideal conditions. Maybe people genuinely do decide this car is worth it just for their weekly commute. I am not an alarmist by any stretch, but I am disappointed with the specs compared to the price point. If this thing were $10k cheaper it would be a no-brainer.
I know if I buy this EV, it is not able performance or charging time or range, it is about Toyota reliability and familiarity. My wife or I couldn’t care less about 4s 0-60, 15 minutes charging time or whatever. We have a ICE SUV for road trips.
@@jml9550 must be nice to have disposable income to pay more for a Toyota. My Toyita loving inlaws found out the hard way when their 2012 Camry V6 engine seized with a broken cam sprocket with a $4,000 bill. Most of their family has all had Toyota's and left when quality declined and value was not there.
Does it have a glove box ?
No, you have a small area under the arm rest for registration.
Well the range, charging and price at the top end are the obvious weak points. Otherwise I like this better than everything else in the segment. The lack of towing is another weakness though. Probably won't have a hard time moving the few they sell, my partner has already reserved one.
Sure, this EV is for those who only buy Toyota's.
on toyota's website it can be configured with a tow bar
@@tooltalk Kind of. It's also for people with budgets that don't like VW.
Value for money I will go with Ionic 5 LR
Is it softer and more comfortable that Hyundai Ioniq 5 @TFLEV ??
Seems decent. Hard to justify switching from a Tesla over to this though. I got the Tesla before any of these other companies even announced vehicles but seeing them in these videos they don't really beat out the Tesla (unless you are looking for a truck, offroad stuff in the hummer or rivian).
Tesla still ranks yearly nearly at the bottom when it comes to build quality and reliability despite ranking very high in customer satisfaction.
According to Consumer Report, electric-vehicle maker Tesla, which is now worth more than $1 trillion, ranked 27th out of the 28 brands Consumer Reports considered this year (2021). Lincoln was the sole brand that got a lower reliability score from the nonprofit organization.
Consumer Reports uses surveys to find out the types of issues vehicle owners have experienced in the last 12 months. It uses that data to predict how reliable carmakers' 2022 models will be and gives each vehicle a score.
Reliability ratings show how well vehicles hold up over time, and how likely vehicle problems or repairs will inconvenience the owner. The survey relies on data collected from Consumer Reports members on their experience with over 300,000 vehicles.
Tesla ranked in the bottom three of 28 auto brands at 27th, while Lexus, Mazda, and Toyota vehicles ranked in the top 3. Tesla’s Model Y, Model X, and Model S were all reported to have body hardware problems, receiving below-average reliability scores.
Not everybody wants to deal with Tesla's hilariously bad build quality and reliability. Consumers now have a choice to buy a Toyota EV instead.
I think a lot of folks who are hesitant about electric cars when it's just Tesla will feel better with Ford, Toyota, et al, producing them as well. You have to build up confidence in the tech more broadly and this helps.
@@electrikoptik I agree that build quality issues are still there over the years but once you hop into interior you are gonna forget all the flaws because tesla will definitely handle better than this Toyota and they are truly a looker while this b4z just looks and feels like another Toyota
Not everybody wants or needs a Tesla. It's better for the market and competition with Toyota now offering an EV.
"Hard to justify switching from a Tesla over to this though."
Why would you? Tesla Model Y is a luxury car. The bZ4X isn't. If you were going to switch out your Tesla, it would be for a Lexus equivalent of this. Y'all need to stop comparing everything to Tesla.
I have an Ariya on order personally. This and the solterra are definitely not for me personally but I hope whoever gets either car loves them
Think I'd like the gentle regenerative braking. One ride in my friend's Kona with more aggressive regeneration was hellish with my chronic neck issues and an hour of driving caused me terrible pain and a couple of days of headache.
I own the Kona, the regeneration is user configurable also he may have been using the paddles to slow down quicker. If you set it to low or zero regenerative, or I suspect just left it in normal your experience would be closer to the BZ4X or a ICE vehicle.
You know what? regeneration feature is adjustable.
Great video thank you BUT…Is it normal for you to take both hands off the steering wheel while you are driving? In the U.K. you would get charged with dangerous driving. Take care.
EV fans love to dismiss this and Toyota in general. But knowning Toyota, it will sell and sell very good. If buyers wanted a performance model the company will bring out a performance car in the near future. This is a good start for a relatively good EV.
I doubt Toyota will bring out a performance EV anytime soon. Toyota is very co conservative. If you want a performance EV, get the Tesla or EV6 GT. Toyota is more Ioniq 5 and id4.
They will sell every one they make. Unfortunately, they don't want to make many of these, and they couldn't even if they tried.
@@TheLastMoccasin I think so too. There are many loyal Toyota and conservative customers (older/more disposable income?) whom goes for familiar design and interior layouts. They don’t necessarily need the most up to date tech or features. Also the demographics who buys this EV are home owners will access to home charger and use it as a commuter and running errands.
As far as capacity to build more, yeah it won’t be hugh numbers until Toyota’s own battery factory is up and running full scale, which will happen in the next few years.
@@jml9550 It will be all SOLID state batteries
Apart from the fendercolour, I like it. Maybe its possible to cover the fender with film in the same colour as the rest
If it had a 400 mile range, no one would care about the styling
looks good so it doesn't matter
If I have a $100K to spend on a car, I would go Lucid Air Touring.
Toyota certainly doesn't care about styling.
@@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel most folks who buys Toyota cares more about reliability than style. I think this EV looks great, style is very subjective BTW.
@@jml9550 we bought a 2022 Tundra for the reliability. With EVs there is less chance to set yourself apart as a company for reliability. The battery and motor technology is the same or very similar among the EV companies.
Does it have autopilot like feature?
Is it in production? I was trying to order one.
Get any PHEVs or HEVs and save $$$ and use it for gas instead.
Where does electricity come from again? I'm not clear on this...
Your battery warranty info is misleading, you should have mentioned the degradation part which is industry leading. Toyota is covering the battery for 10 years 160k will have lost no more than 10% and 660k 30%. No one else comes close. Out of spec lost 11% at 100k so this part of the warranty is huge.
Yep. Toyota promises 90% battery retention in 10 years.
I have read that Toyota can control the temp of individual cells in the pack which they say is why they can offer the warranty. But when you think about it by offering this warranty they have to be confident that the car will have something in the range of 95% at 160k miles. Because if was even close to 90% at that point people would be abusing the pack to get a free battery replacement.
Is that actually specified in the warranty or just some marketing materials? From what I read, the warranty is only for total battery failure.
Nice review Tommy. While the performance specs and styling are quite disappointing, I believe this vehicle will be one that convinces many "EV reluctant" buyers to finally make the switch from gasoline, because of the Toyota badge. IMO.
My fear is that the Toyota loyal will buy this, then be discouraged from EVs when they see the limits of this car.
@@alanpeterson6768 I don’t think so. Some will drive it til the wheels fall of while others will want more performance & feel comfortable enough with the technology to explore other options.
@@alanpeterson6768 Why is it all you boomers that are so boring people
I agree and while the numbers are low, I feel like this car will actually deliver the full stated range bc it's a Toyota.
Another great review from Doug DeMuro's little brother! Great funky quirks and features.
To keep it from creeping after you've stopped you can use the hold function button
Is that the car which is made by BYD from China?
No, it’s a shared platform with Subaru.
Thanks. I like the look as it tries to stand out. Im saving for the Cybertruck and I live in the UK