I'm Estonian and the well known fact about the 1919 war was that a lot of the men fighting were actually school boys with no previous fighting experience, they just abandoned studies and went to help out. There is a book called "Names in Marble" and later on film after it. Film, however, is modified with a love story that isn't in the book.
I can say that some were from GAG (my school). Even teachers of that school went to war. Also whoever is reading this GAG stands for Gustav Adolfi Gümnaasium. A school that was made by a swedish king. GAG was made in 1631 and that means its the oldest school in Estonia.
Eldknjärven jää , Knnksen poiki etc. Krjlan ptriotic songs Yes I am estoniaan nd know our mes ws in Winter war , nd Finlnd mes soldiers support Estonia.Russia must give back Karjala aand Petseri regions for us.
This is true, my grandfather was one of them, but later arrested and sent to the gulag for many years. He was ratted out to the KGB by his fellow coworker. He now is buried at the special site we have at Pirita for the ones who fought with finns, we call them soomepojad, you finns call them maybe soumipoikki?
@dimapez it’s just what you do! Look at WW2 Poles, Czechs etc flew for the RAF during the Battle of Britain. If you can get away to an ally, fight with that ally.
The most well known battles of the Estonian War of Independence _among Estonians_ are: - the Utria naval landing and the liberation of Narva - the liberation of Tartu - the Battle of Paju before the liberation of Valga - the Estonian cavalry's push deep into Eastern Latvia - the Battle of Cesis during the fight against the Baltic German Landeswehr - we celebrate our Victory Day on the anniversary of this battle. But internationally indeed, the Russian Whites' and Estonian push towards Petrograd is pretty famous. PS. My great grandfather fought in the Kuperjanov Partisan Battalion (the one with the skull and bones insignia). He took part in the liberation of Tartu and was injured in the Battle of Paju, which was the end of his war.
I read a text one British officer wrote at that time. He said that big part why Estonians were so successful against red army was that in Estonian armies basically every smallest unit and even every man was able to do their own decisions. They often didn't wait for commands and plans from high command and tacticians but instead came up with their own cunning solutions, while in red army chain of command was highly important and basically individual men and units lacked much of any plan. So when something went wrong according how the commands ordered them to do, they basically lost their heads. Estonian tactics were great both in grand plan and in smaller, local scale. Both communication and individual actions of units were highly well organised.. and that was what raised the morale immensely
How estonian "average Joe" celebrates independence day? Wakes up around 10 am, prepares himself for TV, the speech and the march. Eats spiced sprat on black bread, takes a shot or few of vodka. Tells kids something about history and litsens some patriotic songs from CD or youtube. All in all, not much of celebration, but more of a patriotic free day from a work.
I think the coolest fact about the estonian revolution is that in the most part the ones fighting were school boys (and some girls disguised as boys) and teachers its wild!
Dude, the armored trains were important in Russian Civil War, Estonian War of Independence, and in Finnnish Civil War. Top tier stuff got artillery, machineguns, troops for protection, and even repair crews to repair broken tracks.
The designed behind these stuff is also astonishing, because as example the Estonian armored trains were not made out of wood or metal, but a kind of paper of many layers stacked on each other, to keep the weight as minimum as possible. There's a full length video on it if I'm not wrong.
@@tankart3645 I'm very skeptical about the paper (never heard about this) ... at the beginning it was more likely just improvised from wood and sandbags due to the lack of proper metal for armor. As the war carried on, better equipped trains were made. It's remarkable how much difference these trains actually made in the war. At that time most equipment and provision had to be moved on land by horses. Railways offered far greater speed and capacity. It was up to date method (used in many conflicts around the world at the turn of the century) for moving relatively large firepower quickly.
estonian independence war would make a great hollywood war movie, with that armored trains etc ... estonia itself just doesnt have budgets for movies like that ; )
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj There is one very good movie made by estonians, it's name is, uh, well, "Names engraved in marble". It's about a group of late teen schoolboys who decide to ditch school and sign up to fight for the independence. The costumes, weapons and cinematography are all excellent.
Eesti mainitud! Õlut kõigile! :D My *great-granddad was a sapper with the armoured train units. Apparently the story goes he damaged his heart when competing in a bicycle race and the infantry wouldn't take him, instead he joined the sappers... to run in front of the trains, keeping the railway clear of obstacles and explosives.
Estonians pretty much celebrate the independence day with getting family together, getting well dressed, covering the table, potato salad, black bread deviled eggs etc and vodka, they spend the day eating and catching up, looking estonian patriotic movies such as "nimed marmortahvlil" which talks about independence war. Maybe going out for a walk at forest etc. Kinda holy/peaceful/clean vibe is on that day. That day estonia really gets together, the same vibe, you can feel the patrionism in the air.
I'm British but my great grandfather was Estonian and fought in the Estonian and Latvian Wars of Independence as well as onto the Second World War where he died in 1944. He was a cadet and joined a young partisan battalion when the Estonian war began. They actually at one point repelled a Russian attack on their training facility, which was remarkable as they were just teenagers. He was in the Estonian Army till the Russians invaded again in 1940, then subsequently in the Red Army and German Army after he deserted to fight the Russians!
@Jaakko Järvesaar It was going to happen but the pandemic came and I'm making my long awaited trip to Estonia with my father when all this blows over. Going to see a place called Viljandi too where my family is from. But cool to here from someone with such an Estonian name too haha
@@Daniel-is9sh If your granddad was from Viljandi, maybe he knew Johan Laidoner, who was Commander‑in‑Chief of the Estonian Armed Forces during the Estonian War of Independence. Laidoner was born near Viljandi. Probably he was older than your grandfather, but you never know :) Another important figure of Estonian war of Independence is related with Viljandi. Anton Irv, who was leader of the armored trains. So if you plan to come, check those names and the trip may be a bit more interesting. And if you are interested about history and wars, you will find much more in here. After all, there have been wars here at least 800 years (and more).
@@heikijv that was really interesting to know as I had no idea he was from around there. I am a fan of Laidoner and it's sad what happened to him ultimately post 1940. He didn't deserve to meet his end in Siberia, same as what happened to the prime minister. I forget what it's called but I think there's a really good museum of occupation as you'd expect. So that's definitely on the list plus as a military history fan I'll have a look at the army museum too. I actually did a uni project on the Royal Navy Baltic Squadron and their effect on the Estonian War of Independence last year and I learnt a lot of interesting stuff from that too!
If you're British and you have Estonian roots, then you must live a conflicted life, i.e. why did the allies give the Baltic countries to the communists? Until WW1, there was relative peace between Russia and Estonia. Even more conflicted today; given Estonia's great pride in their nation state, how do they accept the globalist agenda of diversity? It is national suicide.
My great-grandfather was in Pohjanpojat finnish volunteer troops and took part in Estonia campaing. Before that he fought in whites in finnish civil war. My grandmother was born in 1921.. so I am glad that the peace came in 20 :)
As an estonian I have no other choice but like that video. Independence day is celebrated here by watching ceremonies on TV and eating some national food. Like sprat sandwitch. But you can participate in most of the ceremonies as well. Like hoisting the flag ceremony early in the morning, where you can see and talk to members of parliament and government, or military parade.
Estonians are badass. The forest brothers were amazing too-- they are story by themselves. Those folks endured so many occupations coming at them at both sides. Well, i guess germany did also-- my mom grew up in Berlin. One day they had germans ransack their house, then russians and then german again. Just crazy.
main forest brothers force was latvian actually , they now even have based on that special forces estonian forest brothers were unorganized, unlike latvians who were organized and in contact with the western world, giving intel
From my studies, the critical moment was when the British arrived at the Bay of Tallinn. Britain was not going to join the war but it did repel the advancement of the Soviets as they did not know that. And that allowed Estonians to capitalize on that with the help from Finns in both as aid and volunteers, Brits giving weaponry and aid. And not to mention Latvians and Lithuanians in the south and fellow Russians/Whites helping us. What this conflict has shown is despite being different we all have been there for each other even Russians.
Probably the most important reason estonia got its indipendance was because of students. Most of the early recruits were estonian college, high school and middle schools students. Most of the older men didnt belive there was a chance of victory and didnt join. Only after estonian army started to get some victories did they join and pushed them back even further Also for the estonian army, fighting in tricky terrain and condisions is a advantage. Most of our big victories come from useing our smaller and quicker army to take advantage of the tricky terrain
Forest brothers videos 1. ruclips.net/video/h5rQFp7FF9c/видео.html 2. ruclips.net/video/qRD54bWyAfc/видео.html Extra Latvian Special Forces selection video ruclips.net/video/F8uxdqo_EoA/видео.html
Countrys which couldn't develope normal as other countrys ,cuz did get always under the war rain were Estonia and Latvia ,very sad history..(im from Latvia)
At that time, the estonian army consisted mainly of 16-year-old schoolboys. Since Estonians fought on both sides, many battles were fought between brother and brother or between father and son.
Btw, the reason paju was a costly battle was because a army general named "Julius Kuperjaanov" died in that battle, thats also the reason why one of the estonian units/armys (not sure which) is today called "The Julius Kuperjaanov Battalion"
Julius Kuperjanov was not army general, he was lieutenant, but yes It was costly, he fell in battle of Paju and its called "Kuperjanov Infantry Battalion".
26:01 To manage size of this map area then help this : at Tallinn to St Petersburg is 345 km ( 214 miles ) . Tallinn to Lithuanian border is 450 km ( 280 miles) . Tallinn to Liepaja is 523 km( 325 miles ) Tallinn to Pskov (Pihkva) 343 km ( 213 miles) .
@Jaakko Järvesaar If I know correctly, during Soviet, those in Finland who believed in "Internationaali" called Estonia as Eesti. People who didn't like Soviets still called you Viro.
Great video! Just an FYI Estonians and I think Baltic states in general don’t really like to be called Eastern. Northern Europe is more preferred and that is also how UN classifies the Baltic states.
You’re right, stories of battles are still passed on amongst Estonians. As someone has mentioned, if you’d like to know more, watch ‘Nimed Marmortahvlil’ (Names in Marble), it should paint the picture of Estonia in WWI. For WWII, watch ‘1944’
Armored (sand is armor right?) trains were pretty important in our independence war. A large portion of the available artillery and machine guns were carried on them. They also carried a few hundred strong complement of elite troops to capture nearby targets. The trains led many of the pushes forward. Later on the Soviets started wrecking the railroads as a countermeasure and the trains were more relegated to the role of a defensive fast response force.
The armored train seems limited, until you remember that a railway mostly only goes to strategic industrial places... The most significant engagement is considered to be the battle of Cesis in the west. We have a national holiday called Victory Day on june 23 for that. Let's not forget that the whites were the long-time oppressor. No tears were shed over their defeat.
Armored trains were big at the time in the East. You have to remember that was just about when the first, very clumsy and primitive tanks appeared on the Western front, whereas an armored train could easily move very serious firepower and armor wherever the tracks were. They could easily carry far heavier field artillery and armor than tanks of the period; some of the trains in Russian Civil War even packed 6-inch naval guns. An armored train was therefore like having a warship support for your land operations.
That was a really cool video! You should definitely react to the next video too! I learned a lot from this video. I've read a lot about Finnish history so there were a few familiar things here. I know about the attempt to capture Petrograd (St. Petersburg) which failed. In Finland General Mannerheim (later Marshall Mannerheim) was trying to gather troops to help with the capture. He was trying get troops from Finland and the UK but eventually his attempts failed. Interesting fact is that Mannerheim was actually working with Winston Churchill to gather British support for the operation. The two men knew each and both were committed anti-communists.
Armored trains were pretty common in that time, Czechoslovak legion went thru whole Russia with such trains in 1918 when everything went to shits in Russia and allies became enemies.
Great video as always and I am humbled that you did enough research in to a topic so often overlooked. The 2 most famous units, the Scouts and the Kuperjanovs Partisans were formed then, dismantled during the soviet occupation and reinstated again. The patch you have on the wall is the Scouts patch, the hat badge is the modern Kuperjanov badge and the sticker on your thermos is why the skull and bones was familiar. To answer the question simply, for the Estonians two battles were most significant. The battles in the south to clear the Germans and the landing in Narva. The later north east battles were mainly imperial Russians fighting the Reds. British navy was helping cause the Russian Tsar was the Kings cousin. So it was a family matter. When the news reached that the whole royal family was murdered, the help stopped. Reds offered Estonian independence, whites didn't. Simple politics. Thanks again. 🇪🇪
To my understanding, the morale of estonian army was greatly boosted by freewilling schoolboys, who wanted to have their own country. Old farts did not care much about having their own state. Instead they were bothered more about having more land for a household and better prices for their potatoes, milk and meat they produced.
I studied this in school. I think the offense of St Petersburg was briefly mentioned, basically that the offense got close, but nothing came out of it and the war ended. I guess it's not so interesting, because that's more in Russian territory of things and their internal struggles. Learned quite a bit from this video myself. :) Thanks for sharing! Ah, and it's only partially correct that Estonia was given up without fight to Soviets later in WW II, as there were small scale conflicts up to mid '50s (to a smaller extent also '60s and '70s). Could be an interesting topic to cover in the future!
When talking about massive offencives, one must remember that it all happenned in relatively small area. Estonia is only lightly bigger than Massachusetts. And Latvia and Lithuenia are little bigger in areal.
Revolutionary Russia was a wild place with all kinds of stories waiting to be told. One particular story that is just begging to be made into a movie, is that of Roman von Ungern-Sternberg or The Mad Baron. The Great War channel by Indy Neidell has a fantastic video on him that I recommend that you check or even his channel in general for a very in depth and marvelously presented content on WW 1. He also has a WW 2 channel as well.
most of fast advances were made near railroads... armoured train was basicly mobil artillery and they have few hundred of their own troops ... basicly elite units with high morale
Estonia is in Northern Europe, not in Eastern Europe... We are a traditionally Lutheran, largely Germanic-influenced Finnic country, _just_ like Finland, whose capital is like 80 km north of us. Heck, Tallinn lies more north than Stockholm and the average Estonian lives more north than the average Swede...
The most famous offensive was not the push towards Petrograd but the fight against Germans. Push towards Petrograd had more to do with "white" russians doing their thing. But even more famous battle was the battle for Blue Hills during WW2.
Armored trains were most important part of Estonian war of independence when you look Estonian border with Latvia thre was railway line and it took like 4 trains and 5k men to hold back 100mi line against 10x larger force making forming larger troops possible. Supply of those armored trains was relatively easy and those howitzers made havoc on attacking troops Those trains consisted two batteries of howitzers two machine gun carriage and up to 10 passenger cars at least two engines tohse trains were able to split into two and tere were a lot of rail mending cars that were in front of fist howitzer car to make repir s of railroad easier and when railroad was mined then those light cars were expendable . The tactic was overtook from navy where dessants were made and firepower was used to make havoc and confusion. Estonians had jear before had first modern navy dessant made by Germany that is still textbook in military schools like West point so the tactic was superb and troops on those trains consist a lot of high school and university students so they understand a bit better the situation and when experience kicked in then they counted as special forces. Also there was one invention made teh full blown armored train is too heavy and fast repaired bridges were too much for those, Passenger cars in the middle were lightly armored using light metal plates that even bullets from machine-gun were able to penetrate but to make cars warmer linen fibers were used but by the lack those linen fibres were very effective to catch those bullets deformed by thin metal plates used. That is principle of bullet proof west up today.
Oh man, you REALLY need to see 1944 (Estonians and Germans versus Red Army/Estonians). One of the best imo. Names in Marble also,& generation war(german), the new das boot series also( i fast forward to the uboat mostly bc doesnt focus on combat on land, more resistance/gestapo power struggles in France/intro and conclusion).
Considering how hard Estonians, and the Baltic people in general, fought in their war of independence, it's quite sad how they were captured without a fight at the beginning of the WW2. Of course the Bolshevik army in 1918-1920 was quite a ragtag affair compared to what it had become by the late 1930's, so it was easier to look at it and think: "Hey, we can do it!".
Estonians were actually pretty well equipped in the beginning of ww2, but there was little political will do shed blood once again, plus soviet espionage operations and behind the scenes crippling of the forces which led to the overturn of Estonia to the soviets without any conflict
We would have gladly fought the red army in the ww2(and many did forming freedom fighter groups called metsavennad, joining the german army or fleeing to finland and joining the finish army.). We were rolled over by the ussr only cause the politicians surrendered to russia with out a fight and before the people even realised it.
The issue was that the Soviets got their troops in the door through their coercive “non-aggression pact”, and then used it to stage a Communist coup in Estonia. If the Estonians had actually been given a chance to fight in 1940 I’m confident it would have gone similar for the Soviets to how it went in Finland…
@@TheLocalLt The Soviet Union and Finland also had a non-aggression pact. The Soviets staged the Mainila Incident and used it as an excuse to turn the non-aggression pact into toilet paper. That's a long tradition in Moscow. In the "negotiations" before the Winter War, the Soviets wanted the right to send troops to a permanent base on the other side of Helsinki (Hanko). Quite convenient, hmm... It's impossible to say how things would have gone if the Baltic states had rejected Moscow's demands and chosen the Finnish way. The USSR would have had enough forces to fight both Finland and the Baltic states at the same time, no problem. If the Baltic states had formed a common front, uniting their armies, their chances would have been better than each fighting alone. Finland had a clear terrain advantage, though, I believe, but in the end it didn't help either against the endless Soviet human waves.
Sure so i'm an Estonian and we celebrate witha song festival once every 4 years but usualy we do drink Vana Tallinn on the 24 of Febuary bc that's the day Estonia became independet!
To clarify, Estonia is a Finnic nation, not Baltic. The name Baltic was forced on us by German and later Russian occupiers/colonists. Latvians and Lithuanians started to call themselves Baltic, and they are the closest nations to each other. But Estonians are linguistically, culturally and genetically closest nation to Finns instead. Before WWII there were actually plans to create a separate Finnic region or even a united country (with separate local governments) to eliminate the international confusion (at that time Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were all considered Baltic by international community, which was confusing because only the latter two were actually Baltic nations). Sadly, it experienced a disastrous setback as Soviet Russia was not interested of a strong bond between Finland and Estonia. They probably feared that all the other smaller Finnic nations that reside in North Eastern Russia would also want to join that region. They carried out propaganda in both Finland and Estonia, throughout the Soviet occupation, especially through the school system. For an example, in Finland the mentioning of Estonia was practically banned in school curriculums and in Estonia a "brother nations" propaganda was launched which claimed that instead of Finns, the closest nations to Estonians are Latvians and Lithuanians, which is not true. Sadly, this confusion and mess has not been corrected yet and international confusion has also not disappeared as we're still separated from Finland as the two Finnic countries are still in different regions of Northern Europe, as Russia has always wanted.
to clarify actually finland was baltic state as well, it comes from the sea we live around. But after Estonia and others got occupied by soviets, Findland became part of Nordic or Scandinavia. There is actually nothing wrong of being baltic state... it does not refer to culture but the location. Culturally yeah, we findland and estonia are more brothers but historically we now share lot of suffering with brothers and sisters from Latvia and Lithuania.
I’d argue Finland and Estonia are both also Baltic countries, the overall history of Finland, Latvia and Estonia is actually much more similar than that of Lithuania, though during the Cold War that was reversed. We should all be grateful that in the 21st century all are now free and independent republics.
Hey, Estonian here! Glad to see you doing more Estonian stuff. We learn this quite extensively in school, in history, so here some insider information and interesting facts: 1. 8:19 The armoured trains were made kinda bulletproof by putting sandbags between the walls. A few of the trains have survived and in January of 2019 in celebration of independence, one of the trains “toured” the same route, staying in stations for a week as an open-air museum. The train stayed near my town too (so I got to see it) and if I remember correctly you could go inside all of the wagons and they had plaques with stories on the walls. 2. 11:47 The one with the skull is Kuperjanov Partisan Regiment (1919) or Kuperjanov Infantry Battalion (present) named after it’s former Julius Kuperjanov. They were the ones that along with the armoured trains retook Tartu in a surprise attack. And were overall know as the most fierce and brave soldiers, that took on and carried out the deadlier missions that others didn’t dare. Thus coming to be known as the (can’t remember the exact name but something along the lines) “The one’s who are not afraid of death”. The skull designed by Kuperjanov himself symbolises just that. 3. 21:40 Yeah, they were really motivated. It was reported that some soldiers would literally run away from hospitals to go fight the germans. To put into a bit of perspective why. The Baltic Germans, as the master, the high class that had all the power had been controlling the area for 700 years (since 13.century until the end of 19. century when serfdom was abolished and the control started to slowly shift), while the locals, Estonians (and Latvians) were the serfs, peasants that had to work for them. The Baltic Germans saw the natives as nothing more than uneducated peasants who possible couldn’t govern themselves and they treated them as such too. So you could say it was kinda payback time for the Estonians and Latvians. As for your question 26:00. It varies from person to person and northern and southern Estonians usually know more about the battles/frontiers that happened on their side. But I guess the most well know would be the Battle of Võnnu, in which the Estonians and the Latvians were victorious against the Landeswehr. That day is celebrated every year as (public holiday) The Victory Day (Võidupüha).
Wtf, are there some kind of unwritten rule in Finland: "Oy! Opportunity to fight against the Reds again, let's go". If Wikipedia has correct information, they had quite important role: "Foreign assistance, mostly from the United Kingdom and Finland, played a very important role during the early stages of war. Concerned with having Bolshevik rule in the South, Finland delivered funds and weapons. Finland provided 5000 rifles and 20 field guns by 12 December. Finland also sent 3500 volunteers + respective number of Finnish officers."
Estonia is kinda like Finland's little brother, our languages definitely have the same roots. We would have helped the White Russians too if they had promised us independence but since they didn't we didn't help them. It was quite ironically the Bolsheviks who gave Finland the independence ultimately. Finland used to be autonomous part of Russian Empire since Swedish Empire lost Finland (and I think Estonia too) in a war against Russia. Should have just given us full independence and I'm sure that Mannerheim (who was a personal friend of the last Czar Nikolai II who was murdered together with his family by bolsheviks) would have offered help after defeating reds in Finland first. Mannerheim served in Russian Empire's army (since Finland was part of Russia albeit an autonomous zone) and is also ironically a Russian war hero from WW1 and Russo-Japanese wars. That man had an eventful life for sure. Too bad some ignorant people and some ignorant Russians dislike Mannerheim even though he did very well in the Russian army. He never even fought Russia, only Soviet union. Also Estonians returned the favor later and also sent volunteers to Finland when we were fighting the Soviets later. Sadly they lost their independence during WW2 and only became independent again after Soviet union collapse. Finland was more lucky and a bigger country and was able to keep her independence.
@Federal agent of the based department Well yes but also it's not so simple since Estonia was part of Mordor for a long time (sadly). Also Finns have more Nordic connection to Swedes for example and their scandinavian culture has had a bigger impact on Finland than Estonia. But yes we are brother peoples.
@Federal agent of the based department You are simply wrong. Finland and Sweden are the most Nordic countries in the world. Estonia is nowhere close to those levels. If you want to talk about genetics you might want to remember that Western Finns are genetically very different from Eastern Finns... This can also be observed by the difference in haplogroup I1 which is northern European exclusively. I won't bother to argue with you though. Btw Estonia isn't even a Nordic country. Their culture isn't same as Western Finnish culture. Also I can already tell that you know next to nothing about genetics.
@Federal agent of the based department Man I know that your iq is very high, okay? But you know that those PCA maps can't be interpreted by people that aren't "IQ out of the sky" level geniouses? I happen to know very much about those things trust me :D Woohoo at least I have some viking ancestors t. western finn XDDDD and imagine germanics thinking they are any better than anyone? I know everything dude. I now understand what George Soros feels like.
All honour to Estonian freedom warriors. But what one as to know and keep in mind is that Estonia is about the size f Finland's most southern region. The scale of the mapping can be confusing.
I see the scout patch, est flag and also the unit i served in... Still wear the ring every day. So three Estonian patches in total... one more than I have, haha where did you get the scout one?
Thank you for your comments! All the best from Estonia!
Estonians are the real brothers of Finland.
And vice versa!
Kiitos veli ! Thanks broder. Finland help estonians and estoninans hel in winterwar finnish.
Truth!
Yeah!
Bros for life!
Hyvää itsenäisyyspäivää Viro!
Happy independence day our brothers in the south!
Thank you my fr3
I'm Estonian and the well known fact about the 1919 war was that a lot of the men fighting were actually school boys with no previous fighting experience, they just abandoned studies and went to help out. There is a book called "Names in Marble" and later on film after it. Film, however, is modified with a love story that isn't in the book.
I can say that some were from GAG (my school). Even teachers of that school went to war. Also whoever is reading this GAG stands for Gustav Adolfi Gümnaasium. A school that was made by a swedish king. GAG was made in 1631 and that means its the oldest school in Estonia.
I've seen that film! I didn't really like the romantic story line part though
@@HarButNotHar tegelikult on Toomkool kõige vanem...
Sel aastal 705😅
yes it is true and it in estonian is jah see on tõsi
I really liked the film
Finland loves estonia, we even share the same hymn and if you could make a vid on mannerheim, it would be great 👍
ja mannerheim ruclips.net/video/H-rJZ3q6K2Q/видео.html
And estonians have greatest respect and love for our northern brothers!
Pohjan pojat!
Eldknjärven jää , Knnksen poiki etc. Krjlan ptriotic songs Yes I am estoniaan nd know our mes ws in Winter war , nd Finlnd mes soldiers support Estonia.Russia must give back Karjala aand Petseri regions for us.
I think the Estonians returned the favor for those Finnish volunteers by participating in the Continuation war in Finland by a quite large unit :)
@dimapez And wasn´t there this unit tasked for some special sneaky sneaky stuff? Trained in Finland and landed to Estonia, but it went totally south.
This is true, my grandfather was one of them, but later arrested and sent to the gulag for many years. He was ratted out to the KGB by his fellow coworker. He now is buried at the special site we have at Pirita for the ones who fought with finns, we call them soomepojad, you finns call them maybe soumipoikki?
@@iheardthunder Suomipojat oleks parem variant. 😊 Poikki tähendab katki/pooleks.
@dimapez it’s just what you do! Look at WW2 Poles, Czechs etc flew for the RAF during the Battle of Britain. If you can get away to an ally, fight with that ally.
And we'll do it again, and again, and again. As would you.
The most well known battles of the Estonian War of Independence _among Estonians_ are:
- the Utria naval landing and the liberation of Narva
- the liberation of Tartu
- the Battle of Paju before the liberation of Valga
- the Estonian cavalry's push deep into Eastern Latvia
- the Battle of Cesis during the fight against the Baltic German Landeswehr - we celebrate our Victory Day on the anniversary of this battle.
But internationally indeed, the Russian Whites' and Estonian push towards Petrograd is pretty famous.
PS. My great grandfather fought in the Kuperjanov Partisan Battalion (the one with the skull and bones insignia). He took part in the liberation of Tartu and was injured in the Battle of Paju, which was the end of his war.
I read a text one British officer wrote at that time. He said that big part why Estonians were so successful against red army was that in Estonian armies basically every smallest unit and even every man was able to do their own decisions. They often didn't wait for commands and plans from high command and tacticians but instead came up with their own cunning solutions, while in red army chain of command was highly important and basically individual men and units lacked much of any plan. So when something went wrong according how the commands ordered them to do, they basically lost their heads. Estonian tactics were great both in grand plan and in smaller, local scale. Both communication and individual actions of units were highly well organised.. and that was what raised the morale immensely
This is still the case at work today. The Russian is waiting for direct orders, the Estonians are solving problems independently.
Same is happening right now in Ukraine. Thankfully russians didmt learn.
I've worn scouts emblem for 10 years.
Thank you for your service and intrest into our country.
God speed marine!
How estonian "average Joe" celebrates independence day?
Wakes up around 10 am, prepares himself for TV, the speech and the march. Eats spiced sprat on black bread, takes a shot or few of vodka. Tells kids something about history and litsens some patriotic songs from CD or youtube. All in all, not much of celebration, but more of a patriotic free day from a work.
I think the coolest fact about the estonian revolution is that in the most part the ones fighting were school boys (and some girls disguised as boys) and teachers its wild!
Dude, the armored trains were important in Russian Civil War, Estonian War of Independence, and in Finnnish Civil War. Top tier stuff got artillery, machineguns, troops for protection, and even repair crews to repair broken tracks.
The designed behind these stuff is also astonishing, because as example the Estonian armored trains were not made out of wood or metal, but a kind of paper of many layers stacked on each other, to keep the weight as minimum as possible. There's a full length video on it if I'm not wrong.
@@tankart3645 I'm very skeptical about the paper (never heard about this) ... at the beginning it was more likely just improvised from wood and sandbags due to the lack of proper metal for armor. As the war carried on, better equipped trains were made. It's remarkable how much difference these trains actually made in the war. At that time most equipment and provision had to be moved on land by horses. Railways offered far greater speed and capacity. It was up to date method (used in many conflicts around the world at the turn of the century) for moving relatively large firepower quickly.
estonian independence war would make a great hollywood war movie, with that armored trains etc ... estonia itself just doesnt have budgets for movies like that ; )
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj There is one very good movie made by estonians, it's name is, uh, well, "Names engraved in marble". It's about a group of late teen schoolboys who decide to ditch school and sign up to fight for the independence. The costumes, weapons and cinematography are all excellent.
Eesti mainitud! Õlut kõigile! :D
My *great-granddad was a sapper with the armoured train units.
Apparently the story goes he damaged his heart when competing in a bicycle race and the infantry wouldn't take him, instead he joined the sappers... to run in front of the trains, keeping the railway clear of obstacles and explosives.
Mine died kinda peacefully at the age of 84, of alcholism.a really kind man.
@@karin1636 Oh! The same age as mine :O
Estonians pretty much celebrate the independence day with getting family together, getting well dressed, covering the table, potato salad, black bread deviled eggs etc and vodka, they spend the day eating and catching up, looking estonian patriotic movies such as "nimed marmortahvlil" which talks about independence war. Maybe going out for a walk at forest etc. Kinda holy/peaceful/clean vibe is on that day. That day estonia really gets together, the same vibe, you can feel the patrionism in the air.
Lets not forget the singing revolution and our songs surroundin that. One of these that i sing while drunk makes fun of russian regime
I'm British but my great grandfather was Estonian and fought in the Estonian and Latvian Wars of Independence as well as onto the Second World War where he died in 1944. He was a cadet and joined a young partisan battalion when the Estonian war began. They actually at one point repelled a Russian attack on their training facility, which was remarkable as they were just teenagers. He was in the Estonian Army till the Russians invaded again in 1940, then subsequently in the Red Army and German Army after he deserted to fight the Russians!
@Jaakko Järvesaar It was going to happen but the pandemic came and I'm making my long awaited trip to Estonia with my father when all this blows over. Going to see a place called Viljandi too where my family is from. But cool to here from someone with such an Estonian name too haha
@@Daniel-is9sh If your granddad was from Viljandi, maybe he knew Johan Laidoner, who was Commander‑in‑Chief of the Estonian Armed Forces during the Estonian War of Independence. Laidoner was born near Viljandi. Probably he was older than your grandfather, but you never know :) Another important figure of Estonian war of Independence is related with Viljandi. Anton Irv, who was leader of the armored trains. So if you plan to come, check those names and the trip may be a bit more interesting. And if you are interested about history and wars, you will find much more in here. After all, there have been wars here at least 800 years (and more).
@@heikijv that was really interesting to know as I had no idea he was from around there. I am a fan of Laidoner and it's sad what happened to him ultimately post 1940. He didn't deserve to meet his end in Siberia, same as what happened to the prime minister. I forget what it's called but I think there's a really good museum of occupation as you'd expect. So that's definitely on the list plus as a military history fan I'll have a look at the army museum too. I actually did a uni project on the Royal Navy Baltic Squadron and their effect on the Estonian War of Independence last year and I learnt a lot of interesting stuff from that too!
If you're British and you have Estonian roots, then you must live a conflicted life, i.e. why did the allies give the Baltic countries to the communists? Until WW1, there was relative peace between Russia and Estonia. Even more conflicted today; given Estonia's great pride in their nation state, how do they accept the globalist agenda of diversity? It is national suicide.
My blood pressure spiked for a second when u called us eastern European.. I felt it in my head and heart. 😫
-Knock knock..
Whos there..?
-Finns..
Ah shit..
😂
*train whistle in distance*
My great-grandfather was in Pohjanpojat finnish volunteer troops and took part in Estonia campaing. Before that he fought in whites in finnish civil war. My grandmother was born in 1921.. so I am
glad that the peace came in 20 :)
But you realise that your grandma was also born from someone and there was a war. If you thinking that as a survival story. :)
My greatgrandfather was forced to fight on the nazi side.he dispised it.
As an estonian I have no other choice but like that video. Independence day is celebrated here by watching ceremonies on TV and eating some national food. Like sprat sandwitch. But you can participate in most of the ceremonies as well. Like hoisting the flag ceremony early in the morning, where you can see and talk to members of parliament and government, or military parade.
the guy on the lmg on the train was a teacher in my school who passed away in the southern part of estonia
Estonians are badass. The forest brothers were amazing too-- they are story by themselves. Those folks endured so many occupations coming at them at both sides. Well, i guess germany did also-- my mom grew up in Berlin. One day they had germans ransack their house, then russians and then german again. Just crazy.
Yea they were but they also killed innocent estonians including my great grandfather
@@estonianthief4095 I know :(
main forest brothers force was latvian actually , they now even have based on that special forces
estonian forest brothers were unorganized, unlike latvians who were organized and in contact with the western world, giving intel
From my studies, the critical moment was when the British arrived at the Bay of Tallinn. Britain was not going to join the war but it did repel the advancement of the Soviets as they did not know that. And that allowed Estonians to capitalize on that with the help from Finns in both as aid and volunteers, Brits giving weaponry and aid. And not to mention Latvians and Lithuanians in the south and fellow Russians/Whites helping us. What this conflict has shown is despite being different we all have been there for each other even Russians.
Probably the most important reason estonia got its indipendance was because of students. Most of the early recruits were estonian college, high school and middle schools students. Most of the older men didnt belive there was a chance of victory and didnt join. Only after estonian army started to get some victories did they join and pushed them back even further
Also for the estonian army, fighting in tricky terrain and condisions is a advantage. Most of our big victories come from useing our smaller and quicker army to take advantage of the tricky terrain
You may be interested in Nato "Forest brothers" video clip, some more crazy staff from Baltics.
Forest brothers videos
1. ruclips.net/video/h5rQFp7FF9c/видео.html
2. ruclips.net/video/qRD54bWyAfc/видео.html
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Latvian Special Forces selection video
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SEAL METSASERVAL VÄIKSES MAJAS.. KUS ELASID MU VANEMAD ! SEAL metsaserval väikses majas.. on pesa teinud punased.
Countrys which couldn't develope normal as other countrys ,cuz did get always under the war rain were Estonia and Latvia ,very sad history..(im from Latvia)
Like from Estonia
At that time, the estonian army consisted mainly of 16-year-old schoolboys. Since Estonians fought on both sides, many battles were fought between brother and brother or between father and son.
Btw, the reason paju was a costly battle was because a army general named "Julius Kuperjaanov" died in that battle, thats also the reason why one of the estonian units/armys (not sure which) is today called "The Julius Kuperjaanov Battalion"
Julius Kuperjanov was not army general, he was lieutenant, but yes It was costly, he fell in battle of Paju and its called "Kuperjanov Infantry Battalion".
26:01 To manage size of this map area then help this : at Tallinn to St Petersburg is 345 km ( 214 miles ) . Tallinn to Lithuanian border is 450 km ( 280 miles) . Tallinn to Liepaja is 523 km( 325 miles ) Tallinn to Pskov (Pihkva) 343 km ( 213 miles) .
Apparently Britain played a very important role and because of that the relationship between the UK and Estonia is pretty close.
Yes, they provided weopons and equipment for our army and kept the coast clear of the russian navy
Love you Estonia or Viro as in Finland. Viro is in mind after Sweden our next bestest (sic!) friend. 🤍💙🖤
Idiots makes such stupid mistakes. Sorry but love from Viro. 🥰
@Jaakko Järvesaar If I know correctly, during Soviet, those in Finland who believed in "Internationaali" called Estonia as Eesti. People who didn't like Soviets still called you Viro.
@Jaakko Järvesaar But don't worry. Finland is Finland and Suomi because of Turku. 😅😅😅
Great video! Just an FYI Estonians and I think Baltic states in general don’t really like to be called Eastern. Northern Europe is more preferred and that is also how UN classifies the Baltic states.
Estonian independence war is pretty unknown and underrated
great video, thanks for dedicating your time to Est history!
A wonderful and unexpected video. I know what history books I'll be looking for now. Many thanks.
Love your reaction brother! Cheers from Estonia.
You’re right, stories of battles are still passed on amongst Estonians. As someone has mentioned, if you’d like to know more, watch ‘Nimed Marmortahvlil’ (Names in Marble), it should paint the picture of Estonia in WWI. For WWII, watch ‘1944’
We Finn-Ugric are for peace. Unfortunatly Russia loves war. Therefore we have buy weapons and Baltic states are part of NATO.
This in not totally acurate. Imperial Russia was quite peacful and focused on prosperity. But soviets and federal russia is quite agressive.
@@asjaosaline5987Imperial Russia likewise also had a tendency to be unnecessarily aggressive and violent, look at the Russian-Circassian Wars.
Armored (sand is armor right?) trains were pretty important in our independence war. A large portion of the available artillery and machine guns were carried on them. They also carried a few hundred strong complement of elite troops to capture nearby targets. The trains led many of the pushes forward. Later on the Soviets started wrecking the railroads as a countermeasure and the trains were more relegated to the role of a defensive fast response force.
The armored train seems limited, until you remember that a railway mostly only goes to strategic industrial places...
The most significant engagement is considered to be the battle of Cesis in the west. We have a national holiday called Victory Day on june 23 for that. Let's not forget that the whites were the long-time oppressor. No tears were shed over their defeat.
From Estonia TY!!!
Imagine almost losing your capital in another country's independence war
Well things like that happens when finnish volunteers joins the fight :D
@@jere4352 Finnish volunteers didnt actually help in the Krasnaja Gorka operation
Thats not true. All Baltic countries fought for independence at the same time. Video is just from Estonia perspective.
Armored trains were big at the time in the East. You have to remember that was just about when the first, very clumsy and primitive tanks appeared on the Western front, whereas an armored train could easily move very serious firepower and armor wherever the tracks were. They could easily carry far heavier field artillery and armor than tanks of the period; some of the trains in Russian Civil War even packed 6-inch naval guns. An armored train was therefore like having a warship support for your land operations.
Not to forget armored cars.
YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Chreers for doing this video! Greetings from Estonia! =)
That was a really cool video! You should definitely react to the next video too! I learned a lot from this video. I've read a lot about Finnish history so there were a few familiar things here. I know about the attempt to capture Petrograd (St. Petersburg) which failed. In Finland General Mannerheim (later Marshall Mannerheim) was trying to gather troops to help with the capture. He was trying get troops from Finland and the UK but eventually his attempts failed. Interesting fact is that Mannerheim was actually working with Winston Churchill to gather British support for the operation. The two men knew each and both were committed anti-communists.
Learn something new every day. Cheers for the upload and reaction 🙂👍
As an Estonian I love that more people recognise estonia more
Estonians had also armored cars. The first armored car was built and designed by a priest who was the president's brother.
They named it "old devil"
@@toomastammes537 Or how you say it in Estonian: Vanakurat.
@@toomastammes537 that's exactly what the estonian government is , bunch of lucifer worshippers
I grew up in Estonia... They showed us some books and stuff. I am watching that video and learning 600% more... thanks.
Love it how you make numbers into real struggle
fun thing is that it is believed that estonians have been in estonia since ice age.
Armored trains were pretty common in that time, Czechoslovak legion went thru whole Russia with such trains in 1918 when everything went to shits in Russia and allies became enemies.
❤love Estonia from Lithuania!!!
Great video as always and I am humbled that you did enough research in to a topic so often overlooked. The 2 most famous units, the Scouts and the Kuperjanovs Partisans were formed then, dismantled during the soviet occupation and reinstated again. The patch you have on the wall is the Scouts patch, the hat badge is the modern Kuperjanov badge and the sticker on your thermos is why the skull and bones was familiar. To answer the question simply, for the Estonians two battles were most significant. The battles in the south to clear the Germans and the landing in Narva. The later north east battles were mainly imperial Russians fighting the Reds. British navy was helping cause the Russian Tsar was the Kings cousin. So it was a family matter. When the news reached that the whole royal family was murdered, the help stopped. Reds offered Estonian independence, whites didn't. Simple politics. Thanks again. 🇪🇪
Greetings from Estonia!
Love the historical stuff man! Greets from Scotland :)
Strange, I've never seen anyone outside of the Baltic States taking interest in Estonia
Our brother Finland helped a lot
The Estonian army in the early 20s of the last century is something. Estonia captured the territory of the RSFSR the size of another Estonia.
I like that you have a Clone Trooper on your shelf
This video is one of my favourites on RUclips
The most famous offense is probably the capturing of South Estonia as there is a book and a movie and a TV series about it
*Artur Rehi has entered the chat*
Plot twist.... Artur is the server admin.
Isn't he in Kuperjanov Battalion? I recall seeing the skull insignia on his channel
@@mattilaiho7979 I know he's a reserve comms guy anyway.
The blue and whites stripes is kalevi infantry battalion and i served there for a 8 months in 2016-2017
Good video. Combat arms. 👍🏻
Found your channel from Gen Dit Commando mentioned it. And I'm not disappointed. Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪☘
To my understanding, the morale of estonian army was greatly boosted by freewilling schoolboys, who wanted to have their own country. Old farts did not care much about having their own state. Instead they were bothered more about having more land for a household and better prices for their potatoes, milk and meat they produced.
Very much the same in Latvia.
I studied this in school. I think the offense of St Petersburg was briefly mentioned, basically that the offense got close, but nothing came out of it and the war ended. I guess it's not so interesting, because that's more in Russian territory of things and their internal struggles. Learned quite a bit from this video myself. :) Thanks for sharing!
Ah, and it's only partially correct that Estonia was given up without fight to Soviets later in WW II, as there were small scale conflicts up to mid '50s (to a smaller extent also '60s and '70s). Could be an interesting topic to cover in the future!
If you're looking for books about the war i suggest a book named ''Names on the Marble Slab'' but I don't know if it has been translated to english.
The graphics helps to follow along with the cool stories. I learnt a lot too
When talking about massive offencives, one must remember that it all happenned in relatively small area. Estonia is only lightly bigger than Massachusetts. And Latvia and Lithuenia are little bigger in areal.
26:10 The most well known battle of Estonian Independence war is the battle of Paju
Revolutionary Russia was a wild place with all kinds of stories waiting to be told. One particular story that is just begging to be made into a movie, is that of Roman von Ungern-Sternberg or The Mad Baron.
The Great War channel by Indy Neidell has a fantastic video on him that I recommend that you check or even his channel in general for a very in depth and marvelously presented content on WW 1. He also has a WW 2 channel as well.
funniest thing is that ungern sternberg noble house had its estates in estonia
Last battel of Narva was most importent.Just hold on you ground.oehh..lol.
most of fast advances were made near railroads... armoured train was basicly mobil artillery and they have few hundred of their own troops ... basicly elite units with high morale
Estonia is in Northern Europe, not in Eastern Europe...
We are a traditionally Lutheran, largely Germanic-influenced Finnic country, _just_ like Finland, whose capital is like 80 km north of us. Heck, Tallinn lies more north than Stockholm and the average Estonian lives more north than the average Swede...
It was wild times back then after the Great War in Europe.
An absolute mishmash of troops, nationalities and loyalties. Very interesting.
10:48 there even long discribtion in Pikasilla ( North of tht Vortsjärv lke ) village fights
Saddest thing that on ww2 we where fighting against each other very sad🥺
13:28 Lämmijärv is lake between Pskov and Peipsi lake
The most famous offensive was not the push towards Petrograd but the fight against Germans. Push towards Petrograd had more to do with "white" russians doing their thing. But even more famous battle was the battle for Blue Hills during WW2.
Armored trains were most important part of Estonian war of independence when you look Estonian border with Latvia thre was railway line and it took like 4 trains and 5k men to hold back 100mi line against 10x larger force making forming larger troops possible. Supply of those armored trains was relatively easy and those howitzers made havoc on attacking troops Those trains consisted two batteries of howitzers two machine gun carriage and up to 10 passenger cars at least two engines tohse trains were able to split into two and tere were a lot of rail mending cars that were in front of fist howitzer car to make repir s of railroad easier and when railroad was mined then those light cars were expendable . The tactic was overtook from navy where dessants were made and firepower was used to make havoc and confusion. Estonians had jear before had first modern navy dessant made by Germany that is still textbook in military schools like West point so the tactic was superb and troops on those trains consist a lot of high school and university students so they understand a bit better the situation and when experience kicked in then they counted as special forces. Also there was one invention made teh full blown armored train is too heavy and fast repaired bridges were too much for those, Passenger cars in the middle were lightly armored using light metal plates that even bullets from machine-gun were able to penetrate but to make cars warmer linen fibers were used but by the lack those linen fibres were very effective to catch those bullets deformed by thin metal plates used. That is principle of bullet proof west up today.
The French helped us too. And some other countries. Also, Russians of Estonia at the time fought for Estonia, that is important as well.
Awesome video man!
Oh man, you REALLY need to see 1944 (Estonians and Germans versus Red Army/Estonians). One of the best imo.
Names in Marble also,& generation war(german), the new das boot series also( i fast forward to the uboat mostly bc doesnt focus on combat on land, more resistance/gestapo power struggles in France/intro and conclusion).
Considering how hard Estonians, and the Baltic people in general, fought in their war of independence, it's quite sad how they were captured without a fight at the beginning of the WW2. Of course the Bolshevik army in 1918-1920 was quite a ragtag affair compared to what it had become by the late 1930's, so it was easier to look at it and think: "Hey, we can do it!".
Estonians were actually pretty well equipped in the beginning of ww2, but there was little political will do shed blood once again, plus soviet espionage operations and behind the scenes crippling of the forces which led to the overturn of Estonia to the soviets without any conflict
We would have gladly fought the red army in the ww2(and many did forming freedom fighter groups called metsavennad, joining the german army or fleeing to finland and joining the finish army.). We were rolled over by the ussr only cause the politicians surrendered to russia with out a fight and before the people even realised it.
The issue was that the Soviets got their troops in the door through their coercive “non-aggression pact”, and then used it to stage a Communist coup in Estonia. If the Estonians had actually been given a chance to fight in 1940 I’m confident it would have gone similar for the Soviets to how it went in Finland…
@@TheLocalLt The Soviet Union and Finland also had a non-aggression pact. The Soviets staged the Mainila Incident and used it as an excuse to turn the non-aggression pact into toilet paper. That's a long tradition in Moscow. In the "negotiations" before the Winter War, the Soviets wanted the right to send troops to a permanent base on the other side of Helsinki (Hanko). Quite convenient, hmm...
It's impossible to say how things would have gone if the Baltic states had rejected Moscow's demands and chosen the Finnish way. The USSR would have had enough forces to fight both Finland and the Baltic states at the same time, no problem. If the Baltic states had formed a common front, uniting their armies, their chances would have been better than each fighting alone. Finland had a clear terrain advantage, though, I believe, but in the end it didn't help either against the endless Soviet human waves.
One of the units I recognized is Kalevi Jalaväepataljon( Kalev's infantry battalion) took their share at counter- attack to Jõhvi and Narva.
At the point of 4:16 the town name is Rakvere as it's said in the video, not Raqqa. Raqqa is in Syria. That translator fails.
At least my country is getting some attention
Sure so i'm an Estonian and we celebrate witha song festival once every 4 years but usualy we do drink Vana Tallinn on the 24 of Febuary bc that's the day Estonia became independet!
To clarify, Estonia is a Finnic nation, not Baltic. The name Baltic was forced on us by German and later Russian occupiers/colonists. Latvians and Lithuanians started to call themselves Baltic, and they are the closest nations to each other. But Estonians are linguistically, culturally and genetically closest nation to Finns instead. Before WWII there were actually plans to create a separate Finnic region or even a united country (with separate local governments) to eliminate the international confusion (at that time Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were all considered Baltic by international community, which was confusing because only the latter two were actually Baltic nations). Sadly, it experienced a disastrous setback as Soviet Russia was not interested of a strong bond between Finland and Estonia. They probably feared that all the other smaller Finnic nations that reside in North Eastern Russia would also want to join that region. They carried out propaganda in both Finland and Estonia, throughout the Soviet occupation, especially through the school system. For an example, in Finland the mentioning of Estonia was practically banned in school curriculums and in Estonia a "brother nations" propaganda was launched which claimed that instead of Finns, the closest nations to Estonians are Latvians and Lithuanians, which is not true. Sadly, this confusion and mess has not been corrected yet and international confusion has also not disappeared as we're still separated from Finland as the two Finnic countries are still in different regions of Northern Europe, as Russia has always wanted.
to clarify actually finland was baltic state as well, it comes from the sea we live around. But after Estonia and others got occupied by soviets, Findland became part of Nordic or Scandinavia. There is actually nothing wrong of being baltic state... it does not refer to culture but the location. Culturally yeah, we findland and estonia are more brothers but historically we now share lot of suffering with brothers and sisters from Latvia and Lithuania.
I’d argue Finland and Estonia are both also Baltic countries, the overall history of Finland, Latvia and Estonia is actually much more similar than that of Lithuania, though during the Cold War that was reversed. We should all be grateful that in the 21st century all are now free and independent republics.
Hey, Estonian here! Glad to see you doing more Estonian stuff. We learn this quite extensively in school, in history, so here some insider information and interesting facts:
1. 8:19 The armoured trains were made kinda bulletproof by putting sandbags between the walls. A few of the trains have survived and in January of 2019 in celebration of independence, one of the trains “toured” the same route, staying in stations for a week as an open-air museum. The train stayed near my town too (so I got to see it) and if I remember correctly you could go inside all of the wagons and they had plaques with stories on the walls.
2. 11:47 The one with the skull is Kuperjanov Partisan Regiment (1919) or Kuperjanov Infantry Battalion (present) named after it’s former Julius Kuperjanov. They were the ones that along with the armoured trains retook Tartu in a surprise attack. And were overall know as the most fierce and brave soldiers, that took on and carried out the deadlier missions that others didn’t dare. Thus coming to be known as the (can’t remember the exact name but something along the lines) “The one’s who are not afraid of death”. The skull designed by Kuperjanov himself symbolises just that.
3. 21:40 Yeah, they were really motivated. It was reported that some soldiers would literally run away from hospitals to go fight the germans. To put into a bit of perspective why. The Baltic Germans, as the master, the high class that had all the power had been controlling the area for 700 years (since 13.century until the end of 19. century when serfdom was abolished and the control started to slowly shift), while the locals, Estonians (and Latvians) were the serfs, peasants that had to work for them. The Baltic Germans saw the natives as nothing more than uneducated peasants who possible couldn’t govern themselves and they treated them as such too. So you could say it was kinda payback time for the Estonians and Latvians.
As for your question 26:00. It varies from person to person and northern and southern Estonians usually know more about the battles/frontiers that happened on their side. But I guess the most well know would be the Battle of Võnnu, in which the Estonians and the Latvians were victorious against the Landeswehr. That day is celebrated every year as (public holiday) The Victory Day (Võidupüha).
Wtf, are there some kind of unwritten rule in Finland: "Oy! Opportunity to fight against the Reds again, let's go". If Wikipedia has correct information, they had quite important role: "Foreign assistance, mostly from the United Kingdom and Finland, played a very important role during the early stages of war. Concerned with having Bolshevik rule in the South, Finland delivered funds and weapons. Finland provided 5000 rifles and 20 field guns by 12 December. Finland also sent 3500 volunteers + respective number of Finnish officers."
Estonia is kinda like Finland's little brother, our languages definitely have the same roots. We would have helped the White Russians too if they had promised us independence but since they didn't we didn't help them. It was quite ironically the Bolsheviks who gave Finland the independence ultimately. Finland used to be autonomous part of Russian Empire since Swedish Empire lost Finland (and I think Estonia too) in a war against Russia. Should have just given us full independence and I'm sure that Mannerheim (who was a personal friend of the last Czar Nikolai II who was murdered together with his family by bolsheviks) would have offered help after defeating reds in Finland first.
Mannerheim served in Russian Empire's army (since Finland was part of Russia albeit an autonomous zone) and is also ironically a Russian war hero from WW1 and Russo-Japanese wars. That man had an eventful life for sure. Too bad some ignorant people and some ignorant Russians dislike Mannerheim even though he did very well in the Russian army. He never even fought Russia, only Soviet union.
Also Estonians returned the favor later and also sent volunteers to Finland when we were fighting the Soviets later. Sadly they lost their independence during WW2 and only became independent again after Soviet union collapse. Finland was more lucky and a bigger country and was able to keep her independence.
@Federal agent of the based department Well yes but also it's not so simple since Estonia was part of Mordor for a long time (sadly). Also Finns have more Nordic connection to Swedes for example and their scandinavian culture has had a bigger impact on Finland than Estonia.
But yes we are brother peoples.
@Federal agent of the based department You are simply wrong. Finland and Sweden are the most Nordic countries in the world. Estonia is nowhere close to those levels. If you want to talk about genetics you might want to remember that Western Finns are genetically very different from Eastern Finns... This can also be observed by the difference in haplogroup I1 which is northern European exclusively. I won't bother to argue with you though.
Btw Estonia isn't even a Nordic country. Their culture isn't same as Western Finnish culture. Also I can already tell that you know next to nothing about genetics.
@Federal agent of the based department Man I know that your iq is very high, okay? But you know that those PCA maps can't be interpreted by people that aren't "IQ out of the sky" level geniouses? I happen to know very much about those things trust me :D Woohoo at least I have some viking ancestors t. western finn XDDDD and imagine germanics thinking they are any better than anyone? I know everything dude. I now understand what George Soros feels like.
Tallinn, as every other name or word in Estonian, has stress on the first syllable.
Estonia has 2 independence days. They were part of soviet union after ww2 and they became independent again in 1991.
All honour to Estonian freedom warriors. But what one as to know and keep in mind is that Estonia is about the size f Finland's most southern region. The scale of the mapping can be confusing.
26:13 More famous battle was "Sinimäe lahing" . Next was" Utria dessant ".
Next time, Sweden will definitely help Estonia :D
Let’s hope there won’t be next time
Eastern Europe 1918-1920. Best Battle Royal with guns ever.
I see the scout patch, est flag and also the unit i served in... Still wear the ring every day. So three Estonian patches in total... one more than I have, haha where did you get the scout one?
never mind, haha. Should have watched until the end before commenting.