Squidge is the type of guy that the first time you watch you think he is waffling because he talks that in depth but then you watch the next game that the team he is talking about plays and you go aw shit he knows what he is talking about
I can't believe that after 12 years of playing and watching rugby since age 5, I never knew there was this much going on in just 80 minutes. How the players are able to see and communicate so much information from across such a big field is crazy. Everyone knows what they're doing, how to set up, where each other are and how to attack and defend so quick, strong and consistently. My little colts team could only dream of being at this level
I wonder that, but I also wonder if maybe the analysts are ahead of him. I mean to me, Squidge is a genius but maybe the coaches and analysts know more. Or maybe sometimes Squidge sees things that aren't there. There's so much coaches think that they cannot say because they don't want to reveal what they are trying to do or how they are going to counter what they are seeing... So naturally an unbiased analyst will appear to notice more than the coaches do. Either way, I am addicted to watching this guy after every All Blacks game and other major fixture....
@@jamiebanks4939 Also, the coach has to make his plan in advance, try and work a move based on what the other side is going to do, with maybe a couple of options if they go another way. Squidge just has to tell us what happened. It's all there, and thank goodness he is telling me what happened cos I can't even see that.
Isn’t just that rugby is a natural game where true athletes can express theme selves with vim and vigour and much of this stuff comes out of their medulla oblangata (sp!) in other words it’s totally instinctive but played around a general instruction from the coaches. Jason robinson would never have been told to take a step here or there but to go out and express himself just play your natural game …?
@@RugbyLover86 😅😅😅 I can tell you the analysis of every black jersey video… “x made a good play, but if he’d been an all black it would have been better”, “nz should have come out on top but x went against them, and it was unfair”. Black jersey makes some really really good observations but they are punctuated with far too many biases.
So our DOR calls out a Ref and gets a year ban. A player deliberately injures another player, effectively ending his career for months and only gets a 6 week ban. Wow. Just shows that a players welfare is not as important as the ego of the refs 💚💛🔥🇿🇦
That shot at Lord Bledisloe was pretty out the gate. His great grandfather was connected to slave trading, that has nothing to do with him, They don't even share a last name. Lord Bledisloe himself had no controversies but definitely had the power and influence to achieve them. Also accusing him of being "super racist" really comes across poorly when he was central to british recognition of Maori in the eyes of the crown with support of the Maori king and protection of Waitangi.
Agree totally. I'm a kiwi living in Salisbury, and he was a local MP in the area. and his achievements are well known and respected in the local area. I think Squidge needs to stick to what he is good at as it does him no credit.
It's depressing when you just know before even typing his name into Google that, in some way, shape, or form, he's been misrepresented. It's a depressing trope and completey bizarre given the attention to detail Squidge puts into his Rugby analysis!
@@RugbyLover86 Yeah. Never see this kind of thing from right wingers at all do you? I’m being sarcastic, you see it all the time. Stop acting like your side of the aisle is perfect.
Well yes, @'L P' is correct, just because one gains upper class privileges and benefits directly from slavery does not make one super racist, and can even, in the right morally minded person, cause them to become anti-racist. The "psuedo-woke" lefties often make this mistake, putting taints of family racism ahead of actual family class warfare. (Bledisloe was a freemason too, make of that what you will - I do no make anything of it, a big "meh".) But what really matters is that he was an upper class snob, born into privilege not earned, and that's all you need to know he was a douchebag, he coulda' been a very amiably friendly snob too. Y'know, not all conservatives are horrible people and twats, I have conservatives among my best friends. My very best friend is a conservative.
Loved how you showed Foleys forward pass to Kellaway without making a big deal about it, very subtle. You're right, it did feel like the 2000 game played in Sydney too
AB’s supporter here, I was at this game with my partner (it was her first game she saw live and what a match!) When it was 31-13, I remember saying we’re gonna leave early if nothing happens by the 75th minute. We obviously stayed! The change in momentum from that penalty at the end was felt in the crowd. AB’s supporters stomping up a storm, and boom! The final try to seal the deal! Amazing game to experience live!
I was at the game too, and in my kiwi fan section the crowd was screaming about time wasting from the moment the penality was won by the Wallabies. It felt like the ref heard the crowd when he called the timewasting and reversed!
It is a lot more interesting years the ABs aren't dominating, and it is nice that this time it isn't because the ABs are bad it is because everyone has gotten better and that is what the game needs.
They are definitely worse than their prime years. But then that isn't like that's shocking given the 2015 team was perhaos the best ever. But they are still a good side. So it is the other teams that are developing fantastically to make it hard for them to win.
@@sandsplasherasmr1865 they've looked pretty awesome in their wins, but many times in their losses the other teams have played brilliantly. So it's not just the ABS being bad, they are fairly decent (even if no where near the amazing 2015 side) but the other sides are playing great rugby and are coached well
I believe captains should be given 1 TMO call / challenge per game, to use at their discretion. As per cricket. Unfortunately, the Aussies wouldn’t benefit in this case… and potentially, they would have been out of the World Cup in 2015, with Scotland through.
Bit similar to James Lowe when he first came into the Ireland squad? Might take him a few more games to start making correct decisions, he's such a high potential player it's probably worth sticking with him to iron out the flaws.
@@kaosrip8913 Raynal had asked Foley to delay his kick while that forward pass was checked by the TMO but Foley did not - he qikcly kicked it (didn't take 39 seconds this time ha ha) and so the game went on. Ref should have ruled out Foley's kick. It could have contributed to the Ref not being happy with Foley at the end so it all worked out but YES should not have been a try.
The 2 first days of Top 14 have seen 2 unusual calls against Montpellier, the 2022 champion, and on them cost them the game. As a matter of fact, WR has asked the ref to be more strict on some aspects of the game that have been been overlooked. Raynal's call is unusual and certainly gutsy (I reckon he had a good game actually) but I wouldn't be surprised if if were only the beginning of a pre world cup adjustment.
When you see Foley's teammates screaming at him in the background to kick while he stands there away with the fairies getting his derp face on, it's really hard to be sympathetic. It was a ballsy call because it was the 79th minute on the 5m in a 36-34 game in reverse of the momentum toward which was probably going to be a steady line-out and touch kick for the win. But the call isn't surprising nor is it controversial. The ref cautioned 3 times, even stopped the damn clock, cautioned again about time and then blew the scrum. They took like 2 minutes to take that kick. It'll be interesting to see the different ways NH and SH teams adjust to the refereeing.
Initially I thought the referee and interfered with the game with that call, although I wasn't baying for his head. After rewatching it several times, I believe he made the right call. At the end of the day, you have to play by the rules, sorry- laws, and laws say you have to take the penalty quickly to resume play. The ref gave him time. Stopped the clock even, warned him to resume play when he put time back on, and he made the right call when he didn't immediately resume play. That IS the kind of refereeing we need to see. He knew that it would change the complexion of the game, but he knew it was the right decision to make that call, and he trusted his instinct,
It was a bad call. Whilst,he was within his rights to do so the ref had other options (like stopping time until the ball is kicked or adding time on) that were less controversial. By making this decision the referee made the game about themselves. Terrible call
@@sambobly controversy is irrelevant, the refs job is not too worry about controversy. His job is to make the right call which he did. If a team wants to play with fire in the dying minutes that's on them. If we want refs to start thinking about controversy when making calls then we are actually asking them to be biased which is just fucked up.
Stopping the time until the ball is kicked is not an option as you can't play the ball while time off, as neither is adding time which ai.ply doesn't exist. He stopped the time to warn Foley, which was already nice from him. Foley didn't take it seriously enough, well bad for Aussies. With the time remaining, at least one play should have been played, they tried to deny that and it did not work.
@@sambobly na it was too obvious on Bernard Foleys part. If you can sneak something in yeah, but when every god dam spectator can see what he's doing, the ref is forced to act or he's not doing his job.
We paid the ref..........lol. But seriously, it was a freak thing that happened at the end there, I feel the referee had had enough of Foley and his mucking around in not taking heed of his instruction.
He is still young, and will probably learn with experience. I mean look at Rieko Ioane a couple years ago, his defence was not nearly as good as it is today.
The thing about the final ref call is this: Foley was deliberately trying to "cheat" the AB's out of their legitimate last chance to swing the game. He knew what he was doing, just as everyone else on the pitch did. And mostly he'd get away with it. But it cannot be a bad thing that a ref won't stand for it. Just as it wouldn't be a bad thing if refs started blowing up skew scrum feeds. Fairness demands that all the laws be observed, but tradition has seen some laws constantly overlooked. As much as I feel for the Aussies after their great game, I 100% agree with that balsy Frenchman on this.
I don’t like that you make the exact same comments as the Australian Media, the idea that “Australia almost won the Bledisloe!” it probably makes for a more exciting narrative, but given that this was only the first game, surely it’s closer to “Australia almost won the chance to compete for the Bledisloe!”
As a South African I find Nick White's salty salty tears over this decision particularly satisfying after his oscar winning performance a couple of weeks ago. Tasty!
first time to catch one of your videos. As a 47 yearold New Zealander - I gotta give it to ya! Very solid observation and well explained. Just make sure you arent sharing this with the Northern hemisphere coaches! :D Nice job.
There are 5 differnt replay angles, they all show conclusively that it was a forward pass. Foley had already kicked the conversion when the TMO brought it up so it couldn't be brought back.
OH Thank you Squidge, I was thinking that NZ were not gonna be favourites for the 2023 RWC final (obviously quarter or semis) ... and now I'm worried that they will be able to pull their multi game strategy for the 2023 RWC
Just to be clear, even if the Wallabies had won in Melbourne they still need to win in Auckland as well. They didn't nearly win the cup in this match. They nearly earned the opportunity to win it at this weekend's match at Eden Park. A possible but unlikely prospect as they haven't won there since 1986....
I feel so bad for Foley, he's stood there for like 20 seconds screaming at the forward pacn to stop celebrating the turnover so he can get a chase on his kick. You can see dread in his face tge whole time, then despair.
@@ProTantoQuid the back line are screaming at him to kick, the forward pack are clearly unprepared for a kick. You can see that he wants to kick but wants the team ready. He has wasted time, but I wouldn't call it cheating. Cheating implies deliberate malice, but he is clearly earnestly waiting for the forwards
@@georgelane6350 "Cheating implies deliberate malice." No it doesn't . To cheat, as any competent dictionary tells us, is (for example) to gain advantage by breaking rules. It is irrelevant in what state of disorder his forwards were. The arbiter of action is the referee and the referee told Foley 5 times that he must play. Foley chose to ignore the referee. He was punished. That did not change the score. What changed the score and won the game for the ABs was those indisciplined Aussie forwards and those focused AB forwards. And I'm a neutral with no dog in this fight.
@@ProTantoQuid your definition implies deliberate malice. It uses the active verb 'break'. I see that Foley failed to follow the rules due to indecision caused by his team mates. To fail to follow is a passive action.
The two penalties before the time wasting call were text book examples of the laws being broken and the ref correctly calling them in a pressure situation. Also considering the Aussie play acting penalty a couple of games ago by Nick White I think the time wasting call and the play acting might lead to some improvements. Sides running down the clock is becoming more of an issue as is "diving".
yeah nah fair enough, although i'm fair gutted by the call, and reckon australia should've copped the w, that controversial call in the long run will hopefully help the game sort out its convoluted list of rules and stop shit that slows the game down (nic white in most cases)
The stupid part about the delay of game issue was that the Australians had the throw to the lineout. Kick it out, and saunter to the line out - win the throw and kick it out when clock has past 80 mins = australian win.
You can NEVER ignore the fact that even then ... the All Blacks COULDVE won the lineout and scored a try, which is unlikely, but that outcome is always there. They werent guaranteed their win even if they kicked it out, but it was a better chance to concede the ball 40 metres out than 5 metres out lol Silly Foley
IMHO Taukei'aho's second try was 100% the wrong option. He spurned a 3 on 1 overlap to go himself and take on 3 defenders. Worst case of white-line fever I've seen in a while
Will have to disagree with you. Seeing the Aussie defense drifting across, I feel it was the right option. He straighten his line and committed those players to him. Had the speed and size to go over
Unduly harsh on the summary of Bledisloe. His great grandfather was a slave owner. Bledisloe was best known for strengthening and respecting relations with NZ’s Māori community and insisting on cutting his own salary in line with other public servants during the depression. The most unfair and worst type of virtue signalling from not doing your homework (again!) in an otherwise good video.
Agreed. Just because your ancestor was a prick doesn't mean that you are. I'd challenge anyone to say with a straight face that they didn't have at least one unmitigated, unrepentant arsehole in their family tree. More to the point, from the quick search I did on the guy, Bledisloe was actually pretty decent as far as British aristocrats went. So yeah, bad form Squidge, I guess.
@@benpavey3713 motte and bailey tactics! Very common. A joke to reinforce stereotypes about a certain group of people. Not to mention it's a bad joke, because the specific man, upon the slightest of investigation, turned out to be far ahead of his time and very well respected and known for having a social conscience at a time where perhaps it wasn't as common to see. But feel free to keep saying "it's just a joke" :)
i tend to agree but people are very quick to condem Caleb but are the first to appoint WJ as the best full back in the country despite his defence.if you read the stats Will missed 5 tackles against aussie.
I am surprised that no one mentions all the time through this game that the Wallabies were dragging their feet, which the ref clearly remembered. On top of that, he stopped the clock to get in Foley’s business about time wasting and gave him clear instruction to kick the ball immediately when time came on. Foley didn’t, and the ref had enough. I don’t personally like the outcome, but the ref did what he thought he had to do, within the Laws. The penalty makes sense, no matter how unsatisfying.
How good is world rugby right now though. Going into WC year with France as slight favourites, yet knowing they will fall short. There are probably about 5 or 6 teams that all have a legitimate chance at winning the cup on their day. Bring it on!
Pending 6nation results, I feel like Ireland and France are the favourites despite no previous victories. And then you have the juggernauts in NZ, Eng and SA, with rapidly improving Aus. Yes they are still the usual suspects, but now the odds are more even
Nz, SA, England, Ireland, France, wales and Australia all have a legitimate chance it’s definitely going to perhaps be one of the best world cups ever potentially
@10:17 ish, forward pass. Let's be honest, the guy passed the ball before the line, and the other guy took the ball behind the line. So now we have to worry about the impartiality of directors and camera people?
I was definitely mad at this call at the time, and was definitely really upset- but I seem to remember in the first half, Mathieu Raynal sent 2 of the wallabies out of the game, (why?) - and then an All Black threw a wallaby over parallel, and all we got was a penalty kick
agree with most of that and to be fair n.z often rises for these games because for some reason they made a big deal about the Bledisloe awhile ago, when before that it was fairly big, but my thing was winning the tri nations and now the TRC but it seems winning the Bledisloe has become the most important thing after the RWC 3rd is winning the TRC. But the ref made the right call. A GOOD JUDGE does not Base HIS DECISIONS On written down 'law' because he knows that no written law can apply to all the complex multiplicity of circumstances that may arise and so he bases his decisions on 'JUSTICE' , now the ref gave a pass to swine he could have easily given a red card to him for deliberate foul play (the replay shows him clearly targeting his leg) at the end of the game he gave the penalty to aussie, a brain fart from Foley and the ref rightly pulled him up , NZ STILL HAD TO SCORE THE TRY and they did.
Was the scrum to the AB's for Foley's time wasting really a controversial decision? It's rare definitely but it's not wrong like you said, I read in another video comment section that it happened to Connacht over 10 or was it 20 years ago? I think the Raynal decision would've been more controversial had he not stopped the clock after his initial restart to specifically tell Foley to stop wasting time and play immediately, and lets not forget that Foley blatantly tried to tell Raynal that the time was off after he blew the whistle as he went to kick the ball which to be fair would've annoyed the ref even more. I have to be honest I find the fact that a international number 10 can't read a ref by minute 77 or follow simple and clear instructions hilarious. Foley blew it, end of story. I feel for Nick White tbh, planting that pen was worthy of taking the Bledisloe cup back from the Kiwi's then for him to watch Foley to chug some idiot juice and do what he did must've felt like he'd literally been gutted. Also no take on the Swain "tackle" on Tupaea? English by the way I don't have a dog in this fight.
They would not of won the Bledisloe cup that night, as there is another game this week in Auckland, where they haven't won since 1986, but would give the game a bit more spice.
Brilliant as always squidge, I only disagree on Brodie assist at the end, Valentini turned and gifted the easy hands. He should've forced the long overhead pass from a forward rather than allow an easy overlap. Valentini allows that easy short pass a forward would always prefer, so I wouldn't credit the attack in that situation more bad defensive drift.
Comments on the reversed penalty were a cop out. Of course you've seen something like that decision. There are TWO videos illustrating time wasting on the IRB laws of rugby website, both very similar in principle to Raynal's decision.
NZ won because Foley messed around, came afoul of an obscure rule, then instead of hardening up and maintaining their composure, the Wallabies lost their collective shit and let a try through. On the other side, NZ lost their collective shit when the call went in their favour, regained their composure and made a brilliant attack against the Wallabies who were still mentally huddled behind Foley while he was trying to time out. The lesson here? Don't lose your shit!
Foleys second try assist would have been so much better if the pass wasn’t a metre forward. And yes, Caleb Clarke can be brilliant for moments, then make absurd decisions in the same move. Strange they have persisted with him, players normally get axed pretty quickly when they make such bad decisions.
Fantastic breakdown of an iconic match!! More drama than an Aussie soap opera 😅 that game! It’s good feeling to win buuuut….being kinda a tainted match, it really tastes abit sour to win like that.
STAN offers an overhead camera, referees mic only version of the game. In it you hear Mathieu Raynal trying to hurry up the ambling Wobblies time and time again. Eventually he stamped his foot down and the ABs found something in the tank and won the game. Mathieu should be given the WRC final as a reward for dealing decisively with this the blight (deliberate slow play) creeping into the game. Hello England! Hello Springboks! Whomever was involved in that in the Wallabies should be un-dis-de-contracted and encouraged to play League or some other obscure offshoot.
It was the right call. Sure. But it hurt. It hurt a lot. I've loved the game as soon as I discovered it as a 7 year old and this was the first time I walked away. I don't think I'll be back this year. It just hurts too much.
Sometimes I feel your analysis starts way off the mark but you always come up with some eye opening for gems. Your Caleb Clarke reference is probably due more to the midfields poor defence organisation.
Hmm like he needs a Reiko to organise him? That would help but that sounds kind a solution to particular problems. He needs to improve his decision making in spontaneous, unplanned moments.
His positioning in both attack and defens is poor. I'v enever seen an AB back run so poorly once making a break in a way that utterly destroys the support runners lines. He has no awareness how to help put others into space. If he can't do that, he's unlikely to put himself in the right positions defensively. He did it twice last game, where any other back (probably any other AB) would have run the right line, passed to the supprot runner (was Reiko both tiems from memory) who would have had a clear run to the line.
@@dcbbot He is freaking young. A lot of good strong wings do that, that adrenaline rush surges. Easier to refine the support play stuff (brains) than mold someone into a good strong carrier (brawns) I reckon.
@@Dilmahkana I agree, Nonu was similar (different issues, but similar in terms of decision making problems, but physical gifts meant huge potential). But you can learn those at skills at Super level.
Darcy Swain actually tried clear out Quinn with his head on Quinns head (wearing headgear) before losing that headgear and coming around the side to break Quinns knee straight after.
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Squidge is the type of guy that the first time you watch you think he is waffling because he talks that in depth but then you watch the next game that the team he is talking about plays and you go aw shit he knows what he is talking about
What like when he spent 25secs explaining how Brodie Retallick did a draw and pass?
@@jonobarnett4020 exactly these small details change games
awweee shitttt.
It's easy to analyze a game after it's been played he's just explaining it for dummies
@@russellturner1909 you majorly undervalue what he does by this comment.
I can't believe that after 12 years of playing and watching rugby since age 5, I never knew there was this much going on in just 80 minutes. How the players are able to see and communicate so much information from across such a big field is crazy. Everyone knows what they're doing, how to set up, where each other are and how to attack and defend so quick, strong and consistently. My little colts team could only dream of being at this level
Bruh same, i play colts and we can barely do hands down the line🤣
Hmmm yet it looks like a complete mess watching it amazing.
How Squidge hasn't been signed up by a tier one International team as an analyst, is beyond belief, the guys a genius!
I wonder that, but I also wonder if maybe the analysts are ahead of him. I mean to me, Squidge is a genius but maybe the coaches and analysts know more. Or maybe sometimes Squidge sees things that aren't there. There's so much coaches think that they cannot say because they don't want to reveal what they are trying to do or how they are going to counter what they are seeing... So naturally an unbiased analyst will appear to notice more than the coaches do. Either way, I am addicted to watching this guy after every All Blacks game and other major fixture....
@@jamiebanks4939 Also, the coach has to make his plan in advance, try and work a move based on what the other side is going to do, with maybe a couple of options if they go another way. Squidge just has to tell us what happened. It's all there, and thank goodness he is telling me what happened cos I can't even see that.
Isn’t just that rugby is a natural game where true athletes can express theme selves with vim and vigour and much of this stuff comes out of their medulla oblangata (sp!) in other words it’s totally instinctive but played around a general instruction from the coaches.
Jason robinson would never have been told to take a step here or there but to go out and express himself just play your natural game …?
@@RugbyLover86 Black Jersey doesn't rate Hooper, that's enough to say he doesn't know Rugby
@@RugbyLover86 😅😅😅 I can tell you the analysis of every black jersey video… “x made a good play, but if he’d been an all black it would have been better”, “nz should have come out on top but x went against them, and it was unfair”. Black jersey makes some really really good observations but they are punctuated with far too many biases.
Darcy definitely got let off lightly he practically tore that chaps ACL but the ref just slaps him with a yellow and a six week ban
6 week ban is ok, 8 would have been better. Fletcher Newell did the same thing and didn't even get cited.
6 weeks would be fine only if it starts after the kiwi starts playing again
Maybe he'll kill someone nect. This wasn't the 1st time he lost control.
So our DOR calls out a Ref and gets a year ban. A player deliberately injures another player, effectively ending his career for months and only gets a 6 week ban. Wow. Just shows that a players welfare is not as important as the ego of the refs 💚💛🔥🇿🇦
@@SKid65 I agree I think he should be off for as long and the kiwi is off
That shot at Lord Bledisloe was pretty out the gate. His great grandfather was connected to slave trading, that has nothing to do with him, They don't even share a last name. Lord Bledisloe himself had no controversies but definitely had the power and influence to achieve them. Also accusing him of being "super racist" really comes across poorly when he was central to british recognition of Maori in the eyes of the crown with support of the Maori king and protection of Waitangi.
Agree totally. I'm a kiwi living in Salisbury, and he was a local MP in the area. and his achievements are well known and respected in the local area. I think Squidge needs to stick to what he is good at as it does him no credit.
It's depressing when you just know before even typing his name into Google that, in some way, shape, or form, he's been misrepresented. It's a depressing trope and completey bizarre given the attention to detail Squidge puts into his Rugby analysis!
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Yeah. Never see this kind of thing from right wingers at all do you?
I’m being sarcastic, you see it all the time. Stop acting like your side of the aisle is perfect.
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Ben Shapiro. Tucker Carlson. Stephen Crowder. Stephen Yaxley. Some well known examples.
You for sure though.
Well yes, @'L P' is correct, just because one gains upper class privileges and benefits directly from slavery does not make one super racist, and can even, in the right morally minded person, cause them to become anti-racist. The "psuedo-woke" lefties often make this mistake, putting taints of family racism ahead of actual family class warfare. (Bledisloe was a freemason too, make of that what you will - I do no make anything of it, a big "meh".) But what really matters is that he was an upper class snob, born into privilege not earned, and that's all you need to know he was a douchebag, he coulda' been a very amiably friendly snob too. Y'know, not all conservatives are horrible people and twats, I have conservatives among my best friends. My very best friend is a conservative.
Great read. You’re right about Caleb Clarke. Half-god on attack, half-slug on defence
absolutely, i really like this guy, but he really needs to step up his defense game. He is young so hopefully he can learn semi quickly
Argh as an Australian I can't bare to watch this. The pain is still too raw. But as a Squidge fan I can't not! So conflicted!
Now you know how it feels, as a kiwi its been so hard to watch squidge the last couple years with losses to Ireland, France, South Africa, Argentina
@@charlesswain554 That is every year being a wallaby fan
Not in as much pain as Tupaea's knee I bet...
Never clicked faster on a notification. Squidge really is the gift that keeps giving
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Loved how you showed Foleys forward pass to Kellaway without making a big deal about it, very subtle.
You're right, it did feel like the 2000 game played in Sydney too
That pass was more forward than a horny guy at a bar!
AB’s supporter here, I was at this game with my partner (it was her first game she saw live and what a match!) When it was 31-13, I remember saying we’re gonna leave early if nothing happens by the 75th minute. We obviously stayed!
The change in momentum from that penalty at the end was felt in the crowd. AB’s supporters stomping up a storm, and boom! The final try to seal the deal! Amazing game to experience live!
I was at the game too, and in my kiwi fan section the crowd was screaming about time wasting from the moment the penality was won by the Wallabies. It felt like the ref heard the crowd when he called the timewasting and reversed!
It is a lot more interesting years the ABs aren't dominating, and it is nice that this time it isn't because the ABs are bad it is because everyone has gotten better and that is what the game needs.
Rugby's great atm, no one us dominating, a lot of the teams are even which makes for an interesting World Cup
They are definitely worse than their prime years. But then that isn't like that's shocking given the 2015 team was perhaos the best ever. But they are still a good side. So it is the other teams that are developing fantastically to make it hard for them to win.
Absolutely agree and I'm a green eyed kiwi :p
What are you talking about Abs have played terrible all year
@@sandsplasherasmr1865 they've looked pretty awesome in their wins, but many times in their losses the other teams have played brilliantly. So it's not just the ABS being bad, they are fairly decent (even if no where near the amazing 2015 side) but the other sides are playing great rugby and are coached well
@8:05, What a beautiful step from Jordan. The glimpses of good old AB rugby.
The pass from Foley to Kellaway for the try sure looks forward.
The replays show that it was, but Foley had already kicked the conversion so they can't go back.
@@ashinch0r They've actually closed that loophole now
@@maverickmak how? That it doesn't matter if the conversion has been taken, you can still overrule the try?
the all blacks have gotten away with those forward passes for years
I believe captains should be given 1 TMO call / challenge per game, to use at their discretion.
As per cricket.
Unfortunately, the Aussies wouldn’t benefit in this case… and potentially, they would have been out of the World Cup in 2015, with Scotland through.
I’ve been thinking the exact same thing about Caleb Clark. Real liability in defence.
Bit similar to James Lowe when he first came into the Ireland squad? Might take him a few more games to start making correct decisions, he's such a high potential player it's probably worth sticking with him to iron out the flaws.
Yeah he does Just like his old Man
You are spot on about Caleb. I bloody love that kid but he is not ready. Having said that, he needs this sort of exposure
Yep that enormous forward pass by Foley really worked :-)
Yeah obvious as. Why didnt they check the run of play leading up to that try?
As Sam cane is the captain he should have challenged the reff!! ABz needs a New captain that can speak up
@@kaosrip8913 ahh. He wasn't on the field!!!
@@kaosrip8913 Raynal had asked Foley to delay his kick while that forward pass was checked by the TMO but Foley did not - he qikcly kicked it (didn't take 39 seconds this time ha ha) and so the game went on. Ref should have ruled out Foley's kick. It could have contributed to the Ref not being happy with Foley at the end so it all worked out but YES should not have been a try.
@@JoeTheLion60 thats the refs fault, he can check it until kick off
The 2 first days of Top 14 have seen 2 unusual calls against Montpellier, the 2022 champion, and on them cost them the game. As a matter of fact, WR has asked the ref to be more strict on some aspects of the game that have been been overlooked. Raynal's call is unusual and certainly gutsy (I reckon he had a good game actually) but I wouldn't be surprised if if were only the beginning of a pre world cup adjustment.
It's worth noting on Saturday the ABs took every penalty kick for touch *obnoxiously* quick haha
When you see Foley's teammates screaming at him in the background to kick while he stands there away with the fairies getting his derp face on, it's really hard to be sympathetic. It was a ballsy call because it was the 79th minute on the 5m in a 36-34 game in reverse of the momentum toward which was probably going to be a steady line-out and touch kick for the win. But the call isn't surprising nor is it controversial. The ref cautioned 3 times, even stopped the damn clock, cautioned again about time and then blew the scrum. They took like 2 minutes to take that kick. It'll be interesting to see the different ways NH and SH teams adjust to the refereeing.
When its a technical call yeah maybe, but when its as plain as the nose on your face and everyone can see that, the ref just has to act
"Foley's 2015 brain goes for it and it really pays off" lol
Initially I thought the referee and interfered with the game with that call, although I wasn't baying for his head.
After rewatching it several times, I believe he made the right call.
At the end of the day, you have to play by the rules, sorry- laws, and laws say you have to take the penalty quickly to resume play. The ref gave him time. Stopped the clock even, warned him to resume play when he put time back on, and he made the right call when he didn't immediately resume play.
That IS the kind of refereeing we need to see. He knew that it would change the complexion of the game, but he knew it was the right decision to make that call, and he trusted his instinct,
It was a bad call. Whilst,he was within his rights to do so the ref had other options (like stopping time until the ball is kicked or adding time on) that were less controversial. By making this decision the referee made the game about themselves. Terrible call
@@sambobly controversy is irrelevant, the refs job is not too worry about controversy. His job is to make the right call which he did. If a team wants to play with fire in the dying minutes that's on them. If we want refs to start thinking about controversy when making calls then we are actually asking them to be biased which is just fucked up.
Stopping the time until the ball is kicked is not an option as you can't play the ball while time off, as neither is adding time which ai.ply doesn't exist. He stopped the time to warn Foley, which was already nice from him. Foley didn't take it seriously enough, well bad for Aussies. With the time remaining, at least one play should have been played, they tried to deny that and it did not work.
@@sambobly na it was too obvious on Bernard Foleys part. If you can sneak something in yeah, but when every god dam spectator can see what he's doing, the ref is forced to act or he's not doing his job.
Not 'Foley couldn't kick it in time', rather 'Foley wouldn't kick it in time'.
Foley's folly
We paid the ref..........lol. But seriously, it was a freak thing that happened at the end there, I feel the referee had had enough of Foley and his mucking around in not taking heed of his instruction.
Thanks again for giving me a deeper appreciation for rugby Squidge.
I'm glad you made that point about Clark, I feel I was the only one in NZ to notice
You are not the only one bro....Clarke needs to learn to read the game but for some reason I feel that gift can not be taught. Either have it or not.
He is still young, and will probably learn with experience. I mean look at Rieko Ioane a couple years ago, his defence was not nearly as good as it is today.
Best rugby chat around. I hope World Rugby pays you handsomely
Unreal content Squidge. Big thanks !!
There's been so many epic battles in Bledisloe Cup history. All Blacks vs Wallabies are the most entertaining games. Open running rugby at its best.
The thing about the final ref call is this: Foley was deliberately trying to "cheat" the AB's out of their legitimate last chance to swing the game. He knew what he was doing, just as everyone else on the pitch did. And mostly he'd get away with it. But it cannot be a bad thing that a ref won't stand for it. Just as it wouldn't be a bad thing if refs started blowing up skew scrum feeds. Fairness demands that all the laws be observed, but tradition has seen some laws constantly overlooked. As much as I feel for the Aussies after their great game, I 100% agree with that balsy Frenchman on this.
Well said, it was just to obvious what he (Bernard Foley) was doing, the ref had to act otherwise makes a mockery of the game
you have just made me excited for the game this weekend even more!
Wasnt that a forward pass at 10:16?
YUP
I don’t like that you make the exact same comments as the Australian Media, the idea that “Australia almost won the Bledisloe!” it probably makes for a more exciting narrative, but given that this was only the first game, surely it’s closer to “Australia almost won the chance to compete for the Bledisloe!”
no pete samu appreciation ? damn...
As a South African I find Nick White's salty salty tears over this decision particularly satisfying after his oscar winning performance a couple of weeks ago. Tasty!
Couldn’t kick it in time, or didn’t kick it in time? Great video. Keep it up
first time to catch one of your videos. As a 47 yearold New Zealander - I gotta give it to ya! Very solid observation and well explained. Just make sure you arent sharing this with the Northern hemisphere coaches! :D
Nice job.
10:16 isn’t that a forward pass? I’m pretty sure that try shouldn’t have stood
It wasn't, just the angle of the camera that it makes it loo like that
There are 5 differnt replay angles, they all show conclusively that it was a forward pass. Foley had already kicked the conversion when the TMO brought it up so it couldn't be brought back.
100% FOWARD PASS
Quite superb analysis mate - hope you are making some money out of this. Easily the best analysis I've seen.
OH Thank you Squidge, I was thinking that NZ were not gonna be favourites for the 2023 RWC final (obviously quarter or semis) ... and now I'm worried that they will be able to pull their multi game strategy for the 2023 RWC
we nearly did, with a man down too
What a weekend we have ahead of us. It’s never been this close, amongst 4 team.
next level analysis, Mr. Squidge!
One thing I learn from this video. Ian Foster love Square Space 😮
haha
Really enjoyed this video, well done squidge✌🏆
When is the springbok vs Arg coming out?
Just to be clear, even if the Wallabies had won in Melbourne they still need to win in Auckland as well. They didn't nearly win the cup in this match. They nearly earned the opportunity to win it at this weekend's match at Eden Park. A possible but unlikely prospect as they haven't won there since 1986....
And how no one has beaten the all blacks there in what is it 28 years and 49 games something like that
Great analysis, just blows my mind how detailed and insightful you are. I wonder how many sleepless nights Foley has had since the weekend?
I feel so bad for Foley, he's stood there for like 20 seconds screaming at the forward pacn to stop celebrating the turnover so he can get a chase on his kick. You can see dread in his face tge whole time, then despair.
"I must cheat because those guys screaming at me to kick haven't enough breath left to chase." Is that what you mean?
@@ProTantoQuid the back line are screaming at him to kick, the forward pack are clearly unprepared for a kick. You can see that he wants to kick but wants the team ready. He has wasted time, but I wouldn't call it cheating. Cheating implies deliberate malice, but he is clearly earnestly waiting for the forwards
@@georgelane6350 "Cheating implies deliberate malice." No it doesn't . To cheat, as any competent dictionary tells us, is (for example) to gain advantage by breaking rules. It is irrelevant in what state of disorder his forwards were. The arbiter of action is the referee and the referee told Foley 5 times that he must play. Foley chose to ignore the referee. He was punished. That did not change the score. What changed the score and won the game for the ABs was those indisciplined Aussie forwards and those focused AB forwards. And I'm a neutral with no dog in this fight.
@@ProTantoQuid your definition implies deliberate malice. It uses the active verb 'break'. I see that Foley failed to follow the rules due to indecision caused by his team mates. To fail to follow is a passive action.
@@georgelane6350 not malice but tactics, an underarm bowl, legal at the time, tactics or tactless?😘
The two penalties before the time wasting call were text book examples of the laws being broken and the ref correctly calling them in a pressure situation. Also considering the Aussie play acting penalty a couple of games ago by Nick White I think the time wasting call and the play acting might lead to some improvements. Sides running down the clock is becoming more of an issue as is "diving".
yeah nah fair enough, although i'm fair gutted by the call, and reckon australia should've copped the w, that controversial call in the long run will hopefully help the game sort out its convoluted list of rules and stop shit that slows the game down (nic white in most cases)
There was no 'snatching' going on lol. As far as I know, Australia would still have to beat NZ at Eden Park tomorrow.
The stupid part about the delay of game issue was that the Australians had the throw to the lineout. Kick it out, and saunter to the line out - win the throw and kick it out when clock has past 80 mins = australian win.
You can NEVER ignore the fact that even then ... the All Blacks COULDVE won the lineout and scored a try, which is unlikely, but that outcome is always there. They werent guaranteed their win even if they kicked it out, but it was a better chance to concede the ball 40 metres out than 5 metres out lol Silly Foley
If you can understand what the AB's are trying to achieve with their tactics you're doing better than me and the remaining population of New Zealand.
IMHO Taukei'aho's second try was 100% the wrong option. He spurned a 3 on 1 overlap to go himself and take on 3 defenders. Worst case of white-line fever I've seen in a while
Will have to disagree with you. Seeing the Aussie defense drifting across, I feel it was the right option. He straighten his line and committed those players to him. Had the speed and size to go over
Well done mate. Very good job on this one
Foleys offload (the “low percentage play”) looks forward or is it just the camera angle? As a casual viewer can someone help out me out here?
@10.15 - Clearly a forward pass which you forget to mention!
Just want to shout out the genius who thought a fireworks display under the roof was a great idea.
Unduly harsh on the summary of Bledisloe. His great grandfather was a slave owner. Bledisloe was best known for strengthening and respecting relations with NZ’s Māori community and insisting on cutting his own salary in line with other public servants during the depression. The most unfair and worst type of virtue signalling from not doing your homework (again!) in an otherwise good video.
It's a comment that just doesn't belong in this video
Agreed. Just because your ancestor was a prick doesn't mean that you are. I'd challenge anyone to say with a straight face that they didn't have at least one unmitigated, unrepentant arsehole in their family tree. More to the point, from the quick search I did on the guy, Bledisloe was actually pretty decent as far as British aristocrats went. So yeah, bad form Squidge, I guess.
Calm down snowflakes, it was just a joke 😉
@@benpavey3713 it was a joke but it was squidge being the snow flake
@@benpavey3713 motte and bailey tactics! Very common. A joke to reinforce stereotypes about a certain group of people.
Not to mention it's a bad joke, because the specific man, upon the slightest of investigation, turned out to be far ahead of his time and very well respected and known for having a social conscience at a time where perhaps it wasn't as common to see.
But feel free to keep saying "it's just a joke" :)
Caleb’s defense is a real shame. I’m sure he’ll get it right, but he’s a weak link for sure. But god damn can he run the ball lol
Yep Koribiti has some huge defence weaknesses as well
i tend to agree but people are very quick to condem Caleb but are the first to appoint WJ as the best full back in the country despite his defence.if you read the stats Will missed 5 tackles against aussie.
@@LJFN213 agreed. Will got exposed in the rugby championship. Again he’s young and world class so I can’t imagine we won’t fix it
Best squarespace ad ever
Great analysis bro. Top notch.
I am surprised that no one mentions all the time through this game that the Wallabies were dragging their feet, which the ref clearly remembered. On top of that, he stopped the clock to get in Foley’s business about time wasting and gave him clear instruction to kick the ball immediately when time came on. Foley didn’t, and the ref had enough. I don’t personally like the outcome, but the ref did what he thought he had to do, within the Laws. The penalty makes sense, no matter how unsatisfying.
Yep, had been warned and far too obvious to let it slide, ref was forced to act
They may have been awarded a scrum but the All Blacks still had to execute and score a try, oh and what about the game at Eden Park
"That man loves Squarespace" that is comedy gold
5:13 is arguably the best moment of the video. 2 minutes later I'm still laughing my ass off.
Caught me off guard as well and I laughed heartily
3 warnings is 3 warnings.
How good is world rugby right now though. Going into WC year with France as slight favourites, yet knowing they will fall short. There are probably about 5 or 6 teams that all have a legitimate chance at winning the cup on their day. Bring it on!
Pending 6nation results, I feel like Ireland and France are the favourites despite no previous victories. And then you have the juggernauts in NZ, Eng and SA, with rapidly improving Aus. Yes they are still the usual suspects, but now the odds are more even
Nz, SA, England, Ireland, France, wales and Australia all have a legitimate chance it’s definitely going to perhaps be one of the best world cups ever potentially
awesome work Squidge................
They still had to win at eden park this weekend to win the bledisloe
Superb production and analysis. The whole thing has a scatter rap vibe. Infectious.
@10:17 ish, forward pass. Let's be honest, the guy passed the ball before the line, and the other guy took the ball behind the line. So now we have to worry about the impartiality of directors and camera people?
Caleb Clarke is the carbon copy of James Lowe: good in attack, shocking in defence
Uh as James Lowe was. His ,JL that is, overall rugby play has gotten much better.
@@Skyscraper2015 fair enough, he has gotten better but he still isnt great
Where's the "fanks for watching" outro?
Squidge are you going to do a video on the Stormers winning the URC?
I was definitely mad at this call at the time, and was definitely really upset- but I seem to remember in the first half, Mathieu Raynal sent 2 of the wallabies out of the game, (why?) - and then an All Black threw a wallaby over parallel, and all we got was a penalty kick
Can you explain to me how nz scored the first try when the maul is clearly in touch
No hesitation when that notification came in
Great video as usual, foleys pass to Kellaway was focused on , but you missed the most important feature, it was miles forward
There was a short forward pass by Australia that was missed, no comment about it.
As always, great stuff Squidgy.
Nah! Foley didn't kick it on time. Even after his own team was shouting at him... Ah well!
agree with most of that and to be fair n.z often rises for these games because for some reason they made a big deal about the Bledisloe awhile ago, when before that it was fairly big, but my thing was winning the tri nations and now the TRC but it seems winning the Bledisloe has become the most important thing after the RWC 3rd is winning the TRC. But the ref made the right call. A GOOD JUDGE does not Base HIS DECISIONS On written down 'law' because he knows that no written law can apply to all the complex multiplicity of circumstances that may arise and so he bases his decisions on 'JUSTICE' , now the ref gave a pass to swine he could have easily given a red card to him for deliberate foul play (the replay shows him clearly targeting his leg) at the end of the game he gave the penalty to aussie, a brain fart from Foley and the ref rightly pulled him up , NZ STILL HAD TO SCORE THE TRY and they did.
@serdy ximi justice was served on the night, but only taken by n.z, the win wasnt handed to them.
THE BEST REFEREEING DECISION OF ALL TIME.😄😃🤣
We need Springboks vs Aus! Please!
THEY SCORED THE WINNING TRY!!!... to answer the question!
Was the scrum to the AB's for Foley's time wasting really a controversial decision? It's rare definitely but it's not wrong like you said, I read in another video comment section that it happened to Connacht over 10 or was it 20 years ago? I think the Raynal decision would've been more controversial had he not stopped the clock after his initial restart to specifically tell Foley to stop wasting time and play immediately, and lets not forget that Foley blatantly tried to tell Raynal that the time was off after he blew the whistle as he went to kick the ball which to be fair would've annoyed the ref even more. I have to be honest I find the fact that a international number 10 can't read a ref by minute 77 or follow simple and clear instructions hilarious. Foley blew it, end of story. I feel for Nick White tbh, planting that pen was worthy of taking the Bledisloe cup back from the Kiwi's then for him to watch Foley to chug some idiot juice and do what he did must've felt like he'd literally been gutted.
Also no take on the Swain "tackle" on Tupaea? English by the way I don't have a dog in this fight.
They would not of won the Bledisloe cup that night, as there is another game this week in Auckland, where they haven't won since 1986, but would give the game a bit more spice.
Brilliant as always squidge, I only disagree on Brodie assist at the end, Valentini turned and gifted the easy hands. He should've forced the long overhead pass from a forward rather than allow an easy overlap. Valentini allows that easy short pass a forward would always prefer, so I wouldn't credit the attack in that situation more bad defensive drift.
The same way they’ve sneaked it for the last 20years …superior play
Brilliant Squidge!
Comments on the reversed penalty were a cop out. Of course you've seen something like that decision. There are TWO videos illustrating time wasting on the IRB laws of rugby website, both very similar in principle to Raynal's decision.
The Wallabies only had thirteen on the field, too. That kinda helped the All Blacks.
More like why did Foley not listen to the ref? Some of the Wallabies heard the ref pleading to Foley to kick the ball out.
Fresh squeezed Squidge
NZ won because Foley messed around, came afoul of an obscure rule, then instead of hardening up and maintaining their composure, the Wallabies lost their collective shit and let a try through. On the other side, NZ lost their collective shit when the call went in their favour, regained their composure and made a brilliant attack against the Wallabies who were still mentally huddled behind Foley while he was trying to time out. The lesson here? Don't lose your shit!
Foleys second try assist would have been so much better if the pass wasn’t a metre forward. And yes, Caleb Clarke can be brilliant for moments, then make absurd decisions in the same move. Strange they have persisted with him, players normally get axed pretty quickly when they make such bad decisions.
Fantastic breakdown of an iconic match!!
More drama than an Aussie soap opera 😅 that game!
It’s good feeling to win buuuut….being kinda a tainted match, it really tastes abit sour to win like that.
A bit of a home and away match if you will 😂
STAN offers an overhead camera, referees mic only version of the game. In it you hear Mathieu Raynal trying to hurry up the ambling Wobblies time and time again. Eventually he stamped his foot down and the ABs found something in the tank and won the game. Mathieu should be given the WRC final as a reward for dealing decisively with this the blight (deliberate slow play) creeping into the game. Hello England! Hello Springboks! Whomever was involved in that in the Wallabies should be un-dis-de-contracted and encouraged to play League or some other obscure offshoot.
It was the right call. Sure. But it hurt. It hurt a lot.
I've loved the game as soon as I discovered it as a 7 year old and this was the first time I walked away. I don't think I'll be back this year. It just hurts too much.
9:47 Not used often because forward passes aren't usually allowed 😂
Sometimes I feel your analysis starts way off the mark but you always come up with some eye opening for gems. Your Caleb Clarke reference is probably due more to the midfields poor defence organisation.
Hmm like he needs a Reiko to organise him? That would help but that sounds kind a solution to particular problems. He needs to improve his decision making in spontaneous, unplanned moments.
His positioning in both attack and defens is poor. I'v enever seen an AB back run so poorly once making a break in a way that utterly destroys the support runners lines. He has no awareness how to help put others into space. If he can't do that, he's unlikely to put himself in the right positions defensively. He did it twice last game, where any other back (probably any other AB) would have run the right line, passed to the supprot runner (was Reiko both tiems from memory) who would have had a clear run to the line.
@@dcbbot He is freaking young. A lot of good strong wings do that, that adrenaline rush surges. Easier to refine the support play stuff (brains) than mold someone into a good strong carrier (brawns) I reckon.
@@Dilmahkana I agree, Nonu was similar (different issues, but similar in terms of decision making problems, but physical gifts meant huge potential). But you can learn those at skills at Super level.
@@dcbbot Yeah, Reiko is still learning, right. Similar thing I guess.
Where’s Rodrigo Fernández?
Hit the notification like a Darcy Swain headbutt
Darcy Swain actually tried clear out Quinn with his head on Quinns head (wearing headgear) before losing that headgear and coming around the side to break Quinns knee straight after.
"Priiiiiiiiiime heart break o'clock" - Love it!