I posted some thoughts on tale of rose drama a few days ago. Since then I watched the full drama through WeTV express and just finished last night. Just wanted to share some updated thoughts and impressions on the drama (without mentioning any specific spoilers). After finishing all 38 episodes, I’ve found that the tone of the drama is quite sombre overall. I think the music and cinematography played a substantive part in creating this feel. It’s not the sort of sombre that is nostalgic or wonderful, it is more placid. And overall leaving me as the viewer feeling a bit “ya yi” / “yu men” and a bit oppressed. Not sure if anyone else has that feeling? I enjoyed the storytelling of Rose’s life, her career, family and romantic relationships and as mentioned previously I really enjoyed Liu Yi Fei’s acting. I think she did a great job at depicting certain emotional states at various points in her life - it felt realistic. However, in terms of the actual romantic relationships themselves, I found it hard that both her first love (zhao guodong) and second love (Fang zhiwen) had difficulty moving on from Rose after fifteen to eighteen years later. I understand sometimes when you date someone you really like or are deeply attracted to, then they may last in your memories, there is always a special place in your heart for them. But I would have thought that after fifteen to eighteen years, these men would have moved on (ok to still hold a special place for Rose in their heart as she is so beautiful and captivating) but I would have thought they may have emotionally moved on. In particular, roses first relationship with zhang guodong didn’t have much substance, they met through work relations, felt strong were deeply attracted to each other, dated for less than a year and then split. It’s quite common, particularly for decent looking young girls and guys to date in their early twenties and find each other extremely attractive, and build a bond together but due to immaturity in handling conflicts and lack of understanding to split. It seems somewhat unrealistic that zhao guodong isn’t able to fully move on after eighteen years when their relationship didn’t have a whole heap of substance to begin with, I think even years later he’s still very allured by her beauty, personality and demeanour, but that’s it, nothing that much deeper? As for Fan Zhi Wen’s character I can understand why he longs for Rose a bit more as they shared more years together with various trials and challenges and shared a martial bond. Rose did play a big part at least in his life, from helping him start up his company to having his child. I can understand his sense of loss when the marriage ended particularly as that’s the very last thing he wanted. But his insecurity, which causes him to be overly controlling, was the very thing that led to his fears playing out (aka Rose leaving him). He is a flawed character but I can somewhat understand why he still can’t move on from Rose. After Huo Zheng Hua (Rose’s third love interest) departure, I felt the whole drama’s tone became more and more placid. I think the drama did want to convey that Rose is able to live happily on her own for the next six / seven years of her life, be a successful art gallery curator / manager, raise her daughter etc but not sure whether it’s the music or acting (or both) I can’t seem to feel a sense of joy or happiness coming out of Rose in those years. Yes, she rides a motorbike, which conveys a sense of adventure seeking and independence but she seems so sad. I think her desire to study and get a pilots licence conveys a sense of boredom with her. She has a lot of time with her kid almost in middle school now, her art gallery venture is going well so to fill her time she does random things like getting a pilot licence. Instead of conveying a sense of an adventurous spirit it seems to me she is quite bored with her, and lowkey dissatisfied and not so happy and is doing these externally adventurous looking things to satisfy her cravings for excitement and freshness. There’s nothing wrong with that, but I just can’t sense her internal happiness and deep down being happy at where she is in life. I feel a sense of emptiness. This might be an odd take, but my take on Rose’s eighteen years, is that who you marry is quite important. Her and fang zhi wen are not compatible. Yes, he is controlling and coercive and she craves freedom - but I think both parties lack true fundamental respect and understanding for each other so very difficult to reach a “middle ground” in any conflict. For any one that has been married, a lot of the times conflicts are like pitching tents and through understanding and communication may need to move the tent or goal post. I think given they are not really compatible, and Rose married him that sets the scene to her not so happy or “xing fu” life after. Had she married someone more compatible and improved in her own maturity, then perhaps she could have a more long lasting and fulfilling family life AS WELL as a career in the art gallery - sort of like her best friends character who was able to do both. So I think who you marry is important. Even though Rose has sense of freedom and adventure and is able to “coordinate her own life’s trajectories” as she puts it, I do think a regret is not having that fulfilling family life with her own family due to the broken marriage. It also seems there is a void in her life in the last seven years after Wallace Huo’s characters departure and it’s not convincing that she picked herself up again. Her life, despite her incredible beauty, into her 40s seems like it will be quite the same old as in her late 30s. She does respect her “inner heart’s” desires but I feel like more understanding, willingness to forgive, tolerate and love and looking inward for self growth is required if she to have a successful relationship or marriage in the future. Otherwise, if she is still more impulsive or just following her heart, I find it hard to believe it will last long as marriage is such a long journey and without forgiveness and accepting the flaws in her future partner it’s hard to continue this long journey together. Overall, towards the end of the drama I felt her life as a single mum to be quite placid, monotonous in a sense and I do find her overall state to be quite sombre. I don’t think this is bad or anything but just saying had she made a different choice in marriage partner, and worked on accepting her respective partners’ flaws, perhaps she would have a more fulfilling family life and more enriched and happy love life too. Pretty-ness is good but depends on how you let us interact with your overall identity. Is it your whole identity? Is that where you get the entitlement to not care and just follow your heart? What is the consequence of doing so, I.e only following heart? The heart can be deceptive and fickle a lot of the times…. Cynically I think her beauty is also one of the reasons that makes her feel a sense of entitlement that whenever she doesn’t love anymore, she is willing to move on and end the relationship. However, when you think of it holistically - who is prefect? Nobody. Yes, having romantic partners / guys that are selfish, or controlling are very very bad traits. But I believe every person is susceptible to falling or exhibiting these bad traits when we are immature, insecure, damaged, or otherwise just broken. Learning to bring up these concerns and issues, talking it through, whilst respecting the other person (who may not be worthy of respect) is difficult but I think important. I’m not saying Rose should have stayed in her marriage, I just would have liked to see her examine herself and have some more inward introspection before ending each relationship, that’s all, to signify her growth. The depiction of rose and her relationship with her family is also quite precious, a part I enjoyed. After eighteen years, going to Shanghai and back to Beijing, I’m glad she still has a family by her side, making raising her daughter as a single parent far less daunting and I’m glad she has that support throughout her daughters time of growing up.
The only thing I disagree is one’s happiness depends on the marriage partner, compatible or not. Happiness/contentment comes from oneself. Otherwise your comment is pretty down to the point.
@@karenand3975sorry I meant fulfilment in family life like a life less filled with conflict with the romantic partner and more fulfilled in terms of blessed family life. I agreee happiness comes from oneself
全劇最好的男生是玫瑰的爸爸跟玫瑰的哥哥 XD
因为爸爸宠女儿，哥哥惯妹妹？你还真是个小仙女
是女主
yes
都不好吧？...只有女主媽跟爸
看他們談戀愛那麼複雜.凌亂
根本不是1v1欸
都會恐慌了...........
这是我第一次看刘亦菲的戏。 我是女生隔着电视银幕看她都觉得她太有气质，太漂亮了！现在终于明白为什么人家都称她为仙女！这部电视剧《玫瑰的故事》里的玫瑰角色，非她莫属，让别人演我应该会看不下去。 她的演出自信从容，眼神都是戏，时而娇嗔，时而温婉，言行样貌如春风拂面，让人目不转睛！这部剧因为有刘亦菲就已经很值得一看！
👍🏻👍🏻
我第一次看到她演的戏是天龙八部的语嫣，那时就觉得她很漂亮了，接着到仙剑奇侠传的赵灵儿也演出了不一样的风格，极纯真，然后到神雕侠侣的小龙女就狠狠拿捏住了，真的神仙颜值
去有風的地方
演技很一般, 除了漂亮也只剩漂亮！ 花瓶
收皮啦
@@TonyFu-k4f她演技一流喔～這齣的表現屌打台灣所有女藝人
这部剧最好的地方是告诉所有女生，恋爱脑没关系，感情挫折没关系，男人靠不住，最终女生要过好自己生活还是自己靠自己。
男人靠不住，你又如何靠得住嗎？
男人的靠不住可以出自你情感障礙，性格決点，更甚一個不可靠的人有可能相信別人嗎？這樣負面的思法對你有益嗎？
恋爱脑自己的问题 感情挫折也不是都一个人的错。在想着别人靠不靠得住的时候也要想想自己是不是值得被靠得住。真的喜欢有本事 那就单着 感情是需要经营的 要不然最后都是分
也许不是所有的 男人都靠不住、或许恰恰就遇不到、所以还是不要寄希望去靠男人、只有自己最能靠得住。
不是男人靠不住，是别人靠不住，只要想着靠别人的人肯定过得不好
男人靠不住？你看看現在你走的路，看到的高樓大夏，路上的交通工具。是不是都是男人辛辛苦苦建立弄出來的？ 😅
玫瑰的父母是世界上最好的父母
💖
我老公也曾经跟我说过，说他上班为了养我养家。我就对他说，难道你不娶我就不上班了吗？你上班是为了实现你自己的价值，不是为了我。
??
我也說過同樣的話
@@lilyli4956 你的意思听上去，你不上班赚钱是吗？
@@MrPathorock 只有上班才算赚钱吗？在家里做的所有家务和带小孩，如果换成请人的费用，麻烦给太太结一下。
@@healthnfreedom 别矫情，我又上班又带小孩，难道要给我双倍付钱吗？ I'm using up from a brand, 你要想不赚钱让人养着，结婚前就应该找个有钱的。
有這樣的哥哥和父母真是羨慕啊
看完之後
忍不住熱淚盈眶
不是每個戀情都有美好結局
不要在轉身離開後
才想起對方的好
劉亦菲演釋的非常棒😭
這部戲告訴了女人，不要委屈自己，去接受男人的安排，從而失去自己生存能力
另外也讓女人發現，生活中有這樣的男人，要謹慎交往，別被愛情衝昏頭，快逃
同時也讓男人知道，保持尊重和好奇心，會獲得女人對你的認同感
最後 玫瑰的好朋友蘇蘇，才是最有智慧的女人
不是所有的女人都是刘亦菲😂
应该是自己为了自己而活 还有有自知之明 知道自己是几斤几两...
看了本劇解說才能了解到同事婚姻的無奈，女同事(校花等級)跟我朋友結婚不到三年，生二女兒
後來女方要求離了婚，小孩一人帶一個，2個可愛的姐妹花只能一個得到父愛，一個母愛
看了本劇第二段才發現，不是當事人，根本不能對他人提出評語，我不能了解當事人全部事情原委，只有看到表面
感覺女方的無情，而無法得知原生家庭的各種心酸與困境，本劇很貼合現實生活，感觸很深，轉頭看著我老婆，今天晚上要告訴他:
老婆你辛苦了
趕快讓同事看細講弟子規好好教養孩子們
❤️
甚願
人人都能真誠
為人處事有分寸
要有智慧溝通協調能力
化解誤會和衝突以及生活各種狀況
只要學習
孔子傳、范仲淹生平、林則徐生平
找出志向、
再找跟志向興趣相同工作、朋友或能支持的另外一半
改過行孝行善不能等
生重病出意外
都有辦法的
用細講弟子規
俞淨意公遇灶神記
電影版
了凡四訓講記
太上感應篇和
無量壽經
淨空法師講解
栽培自己
懂得面對生老病死
各種狀況
人人都可以擁有
不愁吃穿住
孝敬父母
心靈痊癒
所有人際關係
職場生存
有智慧處理
身心健全
幸福快樂人生
改變命運
心想事成
公主病太严重
@@ハギノヨシコ 想要有自己的理想 ，自己的事業 叫做公主病嗎
@@ハギノヨシコ 不是當事人，根本不能對他人提出評語，不能了解當事人全部事情原委，只有看到表面
生命誠可貴，愛情價更高，若為自由故，二者皆可拋。劇中那句很到位，控制是用在事業上，不是用在人身上，尤其是家人身上。控制欲的人真的很多
別委曲自己但而為自己而活男女生都一樣。
看這部劇，就是為了看： “大仙女” 劉亦菲啊！ 她快40歲了，演大學生、真的一點兒都不會違和耶，她出現的畫面、幾乎總是美滋滋的，真的很賞心悅目，這種天然美女 真的很少了！ 我就是很喜歡她皮膚很白皙，氣質真的很好，演技還 OK！ 英語也講得不錯 😘🤗
我根本不在乎： 這部劇的劇情、是否「有腦」或「無腦」啊！ 劇情有些地方不是很合理，但 就是「一部戲」嘛 😁😄
可能她干爹会觉得她美，抱歉，我一点都不觉得。
這劇情根本就是許多美女的生活寫照，太真實了
除了那個心臟病男友到最後離開的部份劇情外，都很寫實
35岁拍的，最后的青春，女人的生物曲线在15到35这个区间是基本持平的，然后陡崖式下降。。。
中國比她美的多得是。不懂中國評價，不懂她的美，三節鼻，牙齒也不大整齊。這戲就是為她量身打造的吧，我是喜歡看她專人設計打理的造型髮妝。
@@u2yt你喜欢或不喜欢又能怎样？刘亦菲拍的戏就是有很多人看啊。
第一次看亦舒（師太）是14年前朋友給我介紹的《圓舞》，從前看她的小說會哭的一塌糊塗，恨不得衝進去演一把將男主撕得粉碎。最近追著《玫瑰的故事》依舊會被裡面的金句感動，但我不再被她那一套價值觀捆綁了。她的作品喜歡給人安排路徑，喜歡給人分三六九等，女明星就該怎麼活，女白領又要怎麼做，她希望人物都恪守自己的邊界。然而真實的人生，就是橫衝直撞，就是血肉橫飛啊，是沒有那麼矜持與體面的。事實上，當你不那麼在意自己的姿態是否好看的時候，你反而舉止還更合適些。
说的好耶，为你点赞👍🏻
@@秋霞张 谢谢美女🤗
喜歡甜美愛情劇 也喜歡亦非的美演的自然貼心 也喜歡劇中男主一一的表演 喜歡劇中爸爸的寵愛讓玫瑰做自己，也喜歡玫瑰對女兒的教育 讓她成長中家人們的寵愛 成長成為自己的人生 如此滿足我們人生苦短中甜美的劇情 玫瑰對前夫的溝通溫柔真心誠意 一切都不傷害女兒是最好的選擇 謝謝編劇導演的故事是正面回應幸福指數🎉🎉❤❤
给玫瑰的爸爸点赞！
有些评论真恶臭！40岁了就正式谈过3个男朋友，还公交车...那这些男人除了玫瑰，就没跟别人do过么？我还以为大清早亡了，原来还有这么多人裹脚呐。这个就是拍玫瑰的爱情故事，难道剧情更多应该放在她怎么做策展么？
笑死 说实话她长成这样 才谈了这几段 已经要发贞洁奖杯了
放在怎么做策展😂 笑死
@@healthnfreedom 真的…明明一个爱情剧，问为啥内容只有爱情，那不是废话么😅kfc也买不出来包子啊
@@ヒカリ-n3i 而且多少人追玫瑰啊，她只挑自己爱的，不爱了马上放手，这还公交车…我第一次看到原来嫉妒使人面目可憎成这样，那么说的人是从小到大被追的少😅
@@xitan2347 你别说 国内的KFC真的有可能😂
幸福不必再寄托在别人的身上, 自己便是幸福, 凡是我遇见的我都喜欢, 一切都被接受, 从此, 我不受限制, 我使我自己自由
好喜歡這段話
这剧很一般，可很现实，真经历过走过的人会觉得很贴切，很写实. 刘亦菲在剧里每个阶段的演技都很真实. ❤愿所有女生都找到自己心里的月光
现实个屁，所有里面的男人围着一个女的团团转不结婚，所有的人都事业有成，人生赢家，简直是笑话
這是一部好劇，是一部 每個女人都有可能遇到的人生過程，而從第三方 的視角去思考 ，人生 應該 怎麼過，才是對自己 最無私的，坦然面對 對自我誠實，畢竟 人生只有一次(^_^)a 謝謝 導演 演員 以及辛苦的劇組人員，讓我 看到 一部好劇。
玫瑰是幸運的，曾經真心愛過，那怕到最後三觀不合而分手，也不曾因愛情變淡而出現第三者，也屬於純粹的愛
只有仙女刘亦菲能駕馭！仙女的顏值受不了
這套改編劇製作高質和認真，演員們都演繹出色，抵讚！
這就是當今很多現實社會得寫照啊！
看見年輕的玫瑰，想起自己年輕的任性
看完这个更不敢结婚了😂选择配偶真的是第二次投胎。
可不是吗! 如果真的自己结婚后走的这么难，我早就读研读博好好对自己。
可惜這世上沒有早知道跟時光機
@@kristenzhou11看来我还是好好工作，读博士吧😂
其實結婚是可以，但切記不要戀愛腦放棄自己的一切經營去婚姻。孤注一擲的投資風險很大。
其实结婚没那么可怕，虽然玫瑰婚姻失败了，但是女儿是最大收获。所以不用因为怕而不做。
突然覺得她的初戀很優質，只是做了男人都會做的選擇，事業穩定才談婚姻。而當時玫瑰戀愛腦以自我為中心，沒為男人考量立場，太遺憾的一對，後面這個方協文太自卑太可怕了，我老公也有這個影子，只是沒那麼誇張頗有同感。女兒都23歲了，老公出國考察，還是天天睡前打電話還要開視頻，證明我在家。真是哭笑不得，都知天命年齡了，疑心病仍在，或許不安全感是刻在骨子裡。
可是这也证明你是一个在任何年龄里都是有魅力的一个女人啊！因为你的优秀，才让你的老公时刻都担心你会跑掉啊！为你的优秀点赞👍🏻
@@candych5073 幸福
等男人事业稳定，都10年后了，要女人等10年么？就算等了，后面的事谁也说不准。果断放弃是对的，既然男人选择了事业，女人也别把自己耽误了
@@MiaoMiao7252 那如果性别反了也一样吗？
@@Fireninja747是，男女也一樣，人生有多少十年？而且就算不談十年要經歷多少孤獨寂寞的日子，面對外界多少的誘惑，兩個人在不同的經歷環境下成長，由二十到三十，雙方都都因成長改變。十年後
再見的那個人還是十年前愛的那個嗎？
黃亦玫不是在談戀愛就是在談戀愛的路上哈哈哈
喜欢第一段感情。。后面的。。无感。。霍建华好油腻。。。
@@renotan8856四十歲四段 水性揚花了 有毛病吧你
@@叫我钱多多 第二段噁心
@@叫我钱多多 霍建華真人是很内向的。 根本演不出 那種 放蕩不羈的 感覺，跟角色 根本不符。有老少配的感覺
這一部劇，最美的，就是看見一朵花從盛開到荼靡...
沒有荼靡呀，一直像超模一樣美。髮妝服飾都有專人設計。
男人最會把妳逼瘋
靜靜的看妳發瘋
然後還怪妳情緒不穩😢
我最喜歡哥哥🤣🤣🤣🤣
講話超好笑
+1
4男，我覺得哥哥感覺最好欸😂
可能，哥哥是個幽默的舒適圈
金句
蘇更生：不要太相信人類的情感，哭兩次妳就明白了。
真的
说真的 果冻才是 真正的 适合婚配的那个人 只是 时间不对 大家都还没长成而已
同意，金童玉女最匹配😊
我也觉得是
不一定 那是他們戀情沒繼續一起到成家有孩子 很多事真的很難說
誰知道眼前這人現在挺好的 以後會如何
方師兄一開始也挺好的 後面變成這樣 真的很吐血🙄
但現實生活大多如此 恩愛的兩人結婚生子 不是因為家庭經濟 就是為了婆家 或孩子在起爭執…
唉 女生還是靠自己穩 孩子不要為了生而生 要自己也想生 願意顧或不構成自己負擔條件下再生吧 千萬別為了對方甚至婆家（長輩）
未必吧
跟果凍最差的結局就像姜總跟老顧 因為各自人生規劃離婚 但都比跟方協文好
這劇情好真實...好有帶入感 莫名其妙的眼淚就留下..
玫瑰和果凍CP我嗑得厲害❤❤❤
很正常的愛情故事，重點是女的美男的帥，拍攝唯美
拍得很好，有別過去的大陸戲，節奏和感覺都像九十年代的港戲，型和藝術感出來了，不希望中國的戲只堆砌華麗，而沒氣質，這齣戲戲有氣質。
就是一套講從戀愛腦變成不是戀愛腦的電視劇
誰年輕的時候不是戀愛腦？！所以該說是女性成長記
每一個人的人生 都是單程票也都不一樣 酸甜苦辣鹹都得嘗一遍
@@choujasimine6679 這是涉及家庭教育問題，父母從小就要教育孩子如何愛一個人的同時也要學懂愛自己，其實這都是父母的責任，為什麼女孩子總想索取對方的愛，是因為成長中缺乏安全感，把感情寄託在對方身上，才引致很多懵懂的女孩走錯歪路
@@frfr5719 比較少家庭會教育孩子關於“愛”的議題，更多的是限制幾歲前不能交往異性，所以導致不管男女，父母越阻擾，越想嚐試，但又找不到正道，跟正確的概念
太喜欢这个故事的结局了❤
劉慢慢說話的聲音讓人感覺特別舒服好聽❤❤
這是真人真事 信我 一模一樣
每個女人都有機會遇上
世上能幾個是傾城傾國的？不過是現代瓊瑤，人間極品女vs人間極品男，不是白富美&高富帥的故事就是癡情郎才女貌的故事，最好加個一公升眼淚或新不了情裡的短命最美愛人才夠吸粉。
同样每个男的也有机会遇上 有问题的女的 不是男女问题
全集看完！現在重看….
太多精粹的片段！要細細回味。很喜歡各男女演員，演繹各有特色和風格👍👍👋💪🙏
非常謝謝劉亦菲和彭冠英的這一對情侶激起了通有問題的劇情，只可惜沒有最好的結果！👍👍💪❤🙏
還是喜歡他的初戀那段真的好揪心 也是他刻骨銘心的愛吧 ～
男生自不自卑真的很重要 刻在骨子裡的真的到後面人都會變
这剧真的一般般😂从头到尾离不了男人，不如叫玫瑰的恋爱史算了。女性主题并不是主角嘴上喊几句口号就能体会出主旨的。。。。对女性真正困境的讨论浅尝辄止，比如怀孕后照顾孩子gap那么多年，一下就能拿到各种offer？？就好像只要离了渣男就万事大吉了一样。各种美貌，智慧人设拉满，然后父母还是清华教授，哥哥也是年轻有为各种宠着。我就想问，在北京那个年代父母双职工是怎么要了两个孩子的？无非就是披着讨论挫折外壳的无脑爽剧罢了😢
yep就是玛丽苏神剧 看着玩吧
仙女的顏值，這可以。本身她就天生就有優勢。
整個劇情把它塑造成男人都不願放手的女人，但是看不出到底他有什麼特人之處
你講得真對 除了臉 其他我看不出來有啥能力 男人不可能會因為一張臉就死心塌地 而是其他體貼的部分 否則怎麼會那麼多出軌的 反而比元配醜
如果有刘亦菲的颜值，玛丽苏就成立。可是99.99%的人没有这样的美貌。成人童话而已
像方师兄这样的男人太讨厌了 有想自己的老婆优秀，又怕人家比他优秀，自卑的男人太可怕了
真的好喜歡果凍
愛一個人真的不應該是想困住或是綁住,不體諒不理解甚至沒有信任,那不是真的愛
自从选择单身的这几年来，我发现了前所未有的自己 。很多人都说我怎么都不会老，我想是因为我轻松，开怀，自由了 。
人生苦短，轻轻松松的就好了 。看这剧情，都觉得非常累，真不敢相信这有点儿像以前的自己，也是很多人的相似剧情，真是可怕，太累了 。做人何必这么累呢 ？单身万岁 。
好喜欢朱珠❤。刘亦菲好美😊。
我是第一次看刘亦菲的演出！深深被她吸引了！
推荐《去有风的地方》。别看简介，看全剧。🙂
雖然不知道這個故事的下落，但看到亦玫說我們結婚吧，我工薪夠兩人生活，我急搖頭叫出「不好啊」！...
繼續看下去先。。
不愧是神仙姐姐，超级漂亮
看到方協文第一次出場就送他兩個字「渣男」，後面黃亦玫路線就被我放棄了，一路快轉，可惜了劉亦菲的出演，反到是黃振華跟蘇更生的路線更讓人看的有味道。
請問祖傳沙茶麵好吃嗎
还是觉得 庄国栋最帅，最好哈哈
像王凯
香港八十年代， 張曼玉演的玫瑰，周潤發演的哥哥, 是成絕響,無人能及!
我觉得让一个长相普通的女性去塑造一个打娘胎就好看女主，就像让你一穷人去描写富人的日常生活。弊端过多，最明显的是作者可能不了解外貌较好群体中察言观色的能力是真的没这么强。
因为人类从小到大的成长过程中所获取的各种技能、习性甚至是习惯都是以适应和生存为前提的。
一个长相不出众的人，为了能获得更多喜爱察言观色的能力是必须的。而对于外貌出众人群，打小就不需要。他们只要出现，就招人喜欢。更重要的是，他们不仅仅不会期望着到一个陌生环境众星捧月的场景，反而更希望自己在新去一个地方时能别那么扎眼。
自己没接触过这样的女性而已，其实很多。让人羡慕嫉妒恨的那种。偏偏对其他女性也那么好，恨都没法很。
@@nannangao7256讚同，有的還特別聰明到讓人懷疑上帝造人的不公平
這個故事的設定如果不是一個美女，條件又優秀，後面應該說不下去了。故事中有一半的男人都是因為美貌而愛上。所以這是給條件好的女生看的故事。
我喜歡第四個男主送他的禮物鋼鐵玫瑰，女人可以像鋼鐵一樣堅強，所以千萬不要委屈自己奉承別人
執著才是愛，愛就不應該執著
39:06 很喜歡這句話：頓悟都是瞬間發生的。
亦舒寫的是愛情小說。看似平凡，但凡經歷過的女人才能理解其中心境。此劇俊男美女美衣養眼，劉亦菲演技很棒演出氣質佳修養好的女主，很多台詞也耐人尋味養心，重點是，如片尾曲中描述，只要不執著，女人也可有獨立自主無拘無束的天空！
真的，家裏亦舒的書可是按編碼排的，就沒有不好看的，只有年紀尚輕看不懂，年紀大了再看，便懂了👍
@可惜劉亦菲演的不好staffey59
@@Petal676 我倒是挺喜歡她清冷的演技
很有深度的片子,演技真好,好看
小說更好
I posted some thoughts on tale of rose drama a few days ago. Since then I watched the full drama through WeTV express and just finished last night. Just wanted to share some updated thoughts and impressions on the drama (without mentioning any specific spoilers).
After finishing all 38 episodes, I’ve found that the tone of the drama is quite sombre overall. I think the music and cinematography played a substantive part in creating this feel. It’s not the sort of sombre that is nostalgic or wonderful, it is more placid. And overall leaving me as the viewer feeling a bit “ya yi” / “yu men” and a bit oppressed. Not sure if anyone else has that feeling?
I enjoyed the storytelling of Rose’s life, her career, family and romantic relationships and as mentioned previously I really enjoyed Liu Yi Fei’s acting. I think she did a great job at depicting certain emotional states at various points in her life - it felt realistic.
However, in terms of the actual romantic relationships themselves, I found it hard that both her first love (zhao guodong) and second love (Fang zhiwen) had difficulty moving on from Rose after fifteen to eighteen years later. I understand sometimes when you date someone you really like or are deeply attracted to, then they may last in your memories, there is always a special place in your heart for them. But I would have thought that after fifteen to eighteen years, these men would have moved on (ok to still hold a special place for Rose in their heart as she is so beautiful and captivating) but I would have thought they may have emotionally moved on.
In particular, roses first relationship with zhang guodong didn’t have much substance, they met through work relations, felt strong were deeply attracted to each other, dated for less than a year and then split. It’s quite common, particularly for decent looking young girls and guys to date in their early twenties and find each other extremely attractive, and build a bond together but due to immaturity in handling conflicts and lack of understanding to split. It seems somewhat unrealistic that zhao guodong isn’t able to fully move on after eighteen years when their relationship didn’t have a whole heap of substance to begin with, I think even years later he’s still very allured by her beauty, personality and demeanour, but that’s it, nothing that much deeper?
As for Fan Zhi Wen’s character I can understand why he longs for Rose a bit more as they shared more years together with various trials and challenges and shared a martial bond. Rose did play a big part at least in his life, from helping him start up his company to having his child. I can understand his sense of loss when the marriage ended particularly as that’s the very last thing he wanted. But his insecurity, which causes him to be overly controlling, was the very thing that led to his fears playing out (aka Rose leaving him). He is a flawed character but I can somewhat understand why he still can’t move on from Rose.
After Huo Zheng Hua (Rose’s third love interest) departure, I felt the whole drama’s tone became more and more placid. I think the drama did want to convey that Rose is able to live happily on her own for the next six / seven years of her life, be a successful art gallery curator / manager, raise her daughter etc but not sure whether it’s the music or acting (or both) I can’t seem to feel a sense of joy or happiness coming out of Rose in those years. Yes, she rides a motorbike, which conveys a sense of adventure seeking and independence but she seems so sad.
I think her desire to study and get a pilots licence conveys a sense of boredom with her. She has a lot of time with her kid almost in middle school now, her art gallery venture is going well so to fill her time she does random things like getting a pilot licence. Instead of conveying a sense of an adventurous spirit it seems to me she is quite bored with her, and lowkey dissatisfied and not so happy and is doing these externally adventurous looking things to satisfy her cravings for excitement and freshness. There’s nothing wrong with that, but I just can’t sense her internal happiness and deep down being happy at where she is in life. I feel a sense of emptiness.
This might be an odd take, but my take on Rose’s eighteen years, is that who you marry is quite important. Her and fang zhi wen are not compatible. Yes, he is controlling and coercive and she craves freedom - but I think both parties lack true fundamental respect and understanding for each other so very difficult to reach a “middle ground” in any conflict. For any one that has been married, a lot of the times conflicts are like pitching tents and through understanding and communication may need to move the tent or goal post. I think given they are not really compatible, and Rose married him that sets the scene to her not so happy or “xing fu” life after. Had she married someone more compatible and improved in her own maturity, then perhaps she could have a more long lasting and fulfilling family life AS WELL as a career in the art gallery - sort of like her best friends character who was able to do both.
So I think who you marry is important. Even though Rose has sense of freedom and adventure and is able to “coordinate her own life’s trajectories” as she puts it, I do think a regret is not having that fulfilling family life with her own family due to the broken marriage. It also seems there is a void in her life in the last seven years after Wallace Huo’s characters departure and it’s not convincing that she picked herself up again. Her life, despite her incredible beauty, into her 40s seems like it will be quite the same old as in her late 30s. She does respect her “inner heart’s” desires but I feel like more understanding, willingness to forgive, tolerate and love and looking inward for self growth is required if she to have a successful relationship or marriage in the future. Otherwise, if she is still more impulsive or just following her heart, I find it hard to believe it will last long as marriage is such a long journey and without forgiveness and accepting the flaws in her future partner it’s hard to continue this long journey together.
Overall, towards the end of the drama I felt her life as a single mum to be quite placid, monotonous in a sense and I do find her overall state to be quite sombre. I don’t think this is bad or anything but just saying had she made a different choice in marriage partner, and worked on accepting her respective partners’ flaws, perhaps she would have a more fulfilling family life and more enriched and happy love life too.
Pretty-ness is good but depends on how you let us interact with your overall identity. Is it your whole identity? Is that where you get the entitlement to not care and just follow your heart? What is the consequence of doing so, I.e only following heart? The heart can be deceptive and fickle a lot of the times…. Cynically I think her beauty is also one of the reasons that makes her feel a sense of entitlement that whenever she doesn’t love anymore, she is willing to move on and end the relationship. However, when you think of it holistically - who is prefect? Nobody. Yes, having romantic partners / guys that are selfish, or controlling are very very bad traits. But I believe every person is susceptible to falling or exhibiting these bad traits when we are immature, insecure, damaged, or otherwise just broken. Learning to bring up these concerns and issues, talking it through, whilst respecting the other person (who may not be worthy of respect) is difficult but I think important. I’m not saying Rose should have stayed in her marriage, I just would have liked to see her examine herself and have some more inward introspection before ending each relationship, that’s all, to signify her growth.
The depiction of rose and her relationship with her family is also quite precious, a part I enjoyed. After eighteen years, going to Shanghai and back to Beijing, I’m glad she still has a family by her side, making raising her daughter as a single parent far less daunting and I’m glad she has that support throughout her daughters time of growing up.
The only thing I disagree is one’s happiness depends on the marriage partner, compatible or not. Happiness/contentment comes from oneself. Otherwise your comment is pretty down to the point.
@@karenand3975sorry I meant fulfilment in family life like a life less filled with conflict with the romantic partner and more fulfilled in terms of blessed family life. I agreee happiness comes from oneself
女主太美了，妝扮超好看，劇情不要緊
还得是你 看剧看的是妆演员美不美 hh
当年的小龙女如今的玫瑰
这演技精湛了不少嘛
我的膚淺接受了人生的軟弱，有些東西明知控制不了，就只能接受，人生中遇到的每个人和每件事都是註定，繞不過也避不了，珍惜……讓你成長的所有階段，不完美的人生才是真正的人生………
小龍女早啊😊
這套真的拍的很好，和娜拉出走後有異曲同工之妙，老師上課的時候提到，就來看解說了，蘇蘇的經歷真的好壓抑......
要不是為小時候的偶像來看女主，我真的受不了的劇情😂
同意，亦舒其實是香港殖民教育長大，崇拜西方的自由主義，但說故事缺乏內涵。
@@3000aileen剧情其实和小说差得挺远的
@@3000aileen那你怎么还来上西方自由主义的RUclips😂
她可是刘亦菲诶，谁见了不迷糊
@@elsiewu8145 吹得过度了吧，刘亦菲就算演了花木兰在全世界也没几个人认的，除了中国没有商业价值。
第二個好血淋淋😂跟我前夫一樣
既然要自由，那又何必結婚，做自己很好，但不要去招惹別人
很喜歡女主角真的很沒有氣質很適合，果凍真的太帥了眼睛都離不開他，只是時間不對，但他真的很深情啊😢
玫瑰的故事好貼切
說真的這女人的戀愛史的故事演得很平凡😅
美麗女人❤男人會靠近很正常
每個人都能做自己，過自己想要的生活
如果你是一个有自我意识独立人格的女人，爱情，婚姻，家庭一定会和自我有冲突，甚至痛苦。妥协和改变自我是一种方法，离开也是一种方法。
请问这些人怎么做到二十几年不变老的哦
不结婚不伺候男人不生小孩不会气出白头发天天医美保养自己我敢保证到六十岁你都还是一枚仙女。
@@patrickgcau 大实话
@@patrickgcau真的是。我经常被孩子气的偏头疼😂
看她一路走來 感受到她心理的痛 痛會讓人成長 最好活出自己
玫瑰應該跟蘇蘇嫂子配一對🥹
那個藥真的是心臟病可以服用，當初這藥發明出來是血壓藥，特別是肺高壓，副作用才是那個😅
是的，那個藥一開始發明製作是為了治療心臟病，但是意外發現它可以壯陽，那藥因此拯救了原本瀕臨破產倒閉的藥廠。
林更新这是上辈子积德啊
❤❤玫瑰的故事乃是全天下多數女性的故事！經此洗禮之後，女孩子也成為了成熟的女人！此乃多數的女人成熟的路程！唉😮💨！😊
你不自卑就行😞😞恭喜你不自卑了😓😓
把你自己的成功压在玫瑰的痛苦上 所以你不自卑嘛！都懂!
林更新和刘亦菲真的演的很好
开始还觉得玫瑰太作了，后来觉得有的人就是会让你情绪激动，在对的人面前会很平和安稳的。
莊國棟好靚仔呀😍
好多评论一言难尽，刘亦菲这里的演技太好了
我也覺得她把每種情緒都演出來了，只是四個男主角有點太多了😂可能原著就這樣沒辦法，後面庄國棟和方斜紋都變得很好,但為了獨立女性人設不能跟方斜紋復合好可惜
角色應該會出彩😂❤❤❤❤❤❤
原😂天生是美麗❤
好久沒看女主的戲 特別是現代劇
劉亦菲好美啊
2:14:36 认识一下耶稣✝️
我不相信周志輝30歲
跟我講說55歲
我還比較相信😂
改编比原著好，没有和小奶狗开始，没有嫁70岁老头，没有让方协文死。
原著那么吓人
天啊。。原著是各种年龄，各种类别的男人都恋一遍？？ 第二段吧，旁观者的角度看起来 方确实是渣男，但现实中，老公在外开公司，妻子带小孩的，实在太多了。。而且对方还会搞外遇😂。
相信這種婚姻和感情人際關係上,在每個角落都在發生,因為自己的原生家庭生成的性格,如果不改變就會影響到未來和人互動上就會出現許多問題,大部份的人都以為自己的愛可以掌控或甚至改變他人,一旦真正生活在一起時,才意識到很大的差距,如果不放手就是悲劇的開始吧
沒其他男主角了嗎？
2024.06.28 2:17:35 為愛執著，才是愛，為執著而愛，是鑽牛角尖.
劉亦菲和黃亦玫性格完全不同。玫瑰那麼好的條件，太任性把一手好牌打爛，嫁了一個沒自信的小男人。第一次戀愛很瘋狂，最後才慢慢正常。
都是大卡在演，怪不得這麼火！
太写实的两位男朋友了
大女主的剧本 我们都想要的自由和平静