"Everybody loves Mike Tomlin." Is that the same Mike Tomlin who, as Pittsburgh HC, stepped off the sidelines and onto the field and tripped a player from the opposing team who was in the process of running a kick back for a TD? That Mike Tomlin? Yeah, great guy. If he'd shaved his head he'd be in for some real criticism from Nick. If he gains a thousand lbs he'll be immune from Nick criticism for eternity.
I'm no hall-of-fame statistician, but the team Tomlin's Steelers remind me of most (all the good seasons and one-and-done postseasons) is Schottenheimer's Chiefs. The Chiefs were that team who had great regular seasons and then went nowhere in the postseason for a long time.
"I guess they're 15-1 by dumb luck" YES, you blinkered fanboy! That is exactly reality! Without a nice, big, fat, heaping, piled-on helping of plain old dumb luck, the Chiefs would be 12-4 or 13-3. Which is not to say they aren't a great team, because they are. One could easily make the argument that they're the best team in the NFL this year. AND YES, THEY'RE 15-1 BECAUSE OF A VERY GENEROUS HELPING OF DUMB LUCK.
Try logic Nick, it's fun and profitable: the Chiefs can be the best team in the NFL this year AND HAVE A 15-1 RECORD BECAUSE OF A GOOD DOSE OF DUMB LUCK; they can also be the best and lose in the postseason. Welcome to a world where you have to play the games and you don't just get to submit your resume and get SB rings in return.
Um it's not the Bills first championship. Bills were back to back AFL champions before the merger. We going to disregard all teams histories? You meant to say Superbowl. Know the history first before you claim to be a sports media journalist, thank you!
@motherlodebassin5369 Purdy suks and your WRS are toxic. Asking CMC to sustain a insane amount of punishment for another 18 games is a little too good to be true.
@@Pescasaurus I actually agree with Nick he made a great point. Even though the Lions are winning, it's nowhere near as dominant as it was earlier in the season. This SHOULD be cause for concern come playoff time.
@@Pescasaurus So I'm curious. If the lions get a dub against the Vikings, then is Nick's point wrong? Why does a hypothetical always the stitch for the Lions. I mean.. how many times was the "The Lions are going too hard early on in the season; It's not sustainable" talking point used. They keep getting W's as Wildes stated and that's all that matters...
He wasn't right though. The Chiefs offense is peaking right now and they just blew out a playoff team on the road on a short week. The Lions barely beat a mediocre 49ers team and needed their awful QB to throw two brain dead interceptions right to Kerby Joseph.
@@lwshamilton44 Since Hutchinson broke his leg and their defense started getting decimated, the Lions beat the Vikings, the Packers TWICE, the Bears TWICE, the Texans and the 49ers (who played their balls off), among others. They are the only NFL team that hasn't lost on the road this year, and they put up 42 on the Bills, who also beat the Chiefs. The Lions just keep WINNING despite all the chaos and damage. They deserve to be in second place behind the Chiefs.
The whole 31 points things is crazy talk. Think about all the games KC takes a game winning field goal, goes into victory formation or slides in bounds to not score a TD and keep the clock running. KC has number 1 seed, resting players to get ready for the run. Lions have a much tougher road ahead. Hopefully both teams make it and we can see if they are on the same coin or not…
@@frankpentangeli7945 No they don't. The difference is the Chiefs are getting healthier while the Lions continue to get more injured. All offense and no defense doesn't work in the playoffs as they will eventually play a team with a solid offense and can also make a few stops. There is a very realistic chance they lose this week to the Vikings and fall to the 5 seed where they then lose to the Bucs who also have a solid offense but can play decent defense
@GoodwinPhotoBlog make all the excuses you want. A team with mahomes on it should put up more than 31 at least one time in a season. The offense isn't good. The defense carries that team. To have that good of a defense and to only average 24 points a game is criminal. If the chiefs had a league average defense they would put up 20 points a game and be fighting for a playoff spot. A win is a win but when you look at the end of the Denver game and squeaking out wins vs bad teams, it just looks more and more like the minnesota vikings from a couple years back when they would win all their games by the thinnest of margins only to fall apart when it matters in the playoffs. 11 of the chiefs 15 wins were one score games. The only time the defense gave up 30 or more points the chiefs lost. That bills game showed that if you can score on the defense, the offense won't be able to keep up. The chiefs don't match-up well against the bills or lions because those teams average more points per game than the chiefs have managed to put up in one game all season long.
Everything Brou said about the bills and why they should move down is exactly why Joeh Allen is the obvious MvP and part of the reason the offensive line for Buffalo looks so good is bc Josh helps them by being elusive and anticipating/escaping pressure to extend plays (bills o-line is really good too though!).
also talking about pushing all the teams above the bills and the lions are fine until it leads to losses even though the bills beat both the chiefs and lions
Lamar actually is number 1 in the stat you are describing with 28. And not only that he is the best at turning would be sacks into positives. Josh is like 4th I believe
But that doesn't account for the run game. Just watch some Bills tape this year of the offensive line. The OLine Committee podcast has done a bunch of film breakdowns of the Bills and they'll show you why Dion might be the best LT in football.
And Josh fans/media think he's MVP because of wins vs. KC without Pacheco, Butker & Hollywood/Rice & DET w/ half their defense on IR playing 3rd strings 😂
I mean I get it teams in October aren’t the same as they are in early January but it’s not like we should COMPLETELY do away with early season games. Nick always bring up Week 1 and even last season when talking Chiefs vs Ravens.
No he didn't its a trash argument. The Chiefs are both sides not just one side like the Lions, thats why he had to fake the stats by using 28 instead of 30 he's been using all year for the Chiefs. The Chiefs don't score over 30 but only 1 team has scored 30 or more on them all year. Can't say nearly the same for the Lions.
@@connorharvard3873 They say we cooked and all we do is win. Saying we are going to get cooked after at least a 14 win season is crazy work. Like the original comment said.. Detroit Vs Everybody
@@GoodwinPhotoBlog You’re joking right? Every team has a loss this season! So you’re proving that we are a top tier team now in the toughest division for the NFC? Thanks? Hating is not good for the soul
Another segment, another opportunity for Brou to bring up a game that happened 3 months ago. I mean he aint wrong the bills are way too high but seriously? A week 4 game has never held this much precedent
This can be such a great show. They have to work on keeping Nick from dominating every conversation. He has more screen time than everyone combined a lot of shows. Him droning on and on (usually about the same couple topics) gets old. When he talks nonstop and KW barely says a word, it's not as good of a show.
The Bills are correctly placed. That game from 3 months ago means NOTHING, the Bills beat the Lions recently, I still trust the Bills defense over the Ravens, and Josh is just better than Jalen / Sam. They're #2. Only team I'm actually a little scared of as a Chiefs fan. (It would be the Lions if they were actually healthy)
The Bills had 4 of 5 starters in their secondary injured for the last month. That's when their defense fell off. They should have everyone back for the playoffs.
The goalpost moved on Herbert. Before the year Nick said the Charger didn’t have a chance because they had sold this year and were salary strapped. Now, because they’ve been fairly successful he’s in a “must win” scenario.
It’s crazy because I was a fan of Nick Wright when he was bald and shouting from the mountain top about LeBron (which I still agree with) and now it’s hard to listen to full segments from the bias and negativity towards the Lions. Have loved KW since first segment he did and he hit the nail on the head. Thanks Wildes!!
Nick is absolutely right about the Bills - they have the best OL in the league. All we have to do is watch their red zone offense. Allen and Cook practically walk into the end zone untouched half the time, and rush in with minimal resistance the other half.
Exactly the lions defense is bad so they aren’t top 5 bills defense is worse but they’re 2 even tho the bills beat both the lions and chiefs he is so biased it’s ridiculous and acting under the idea that the lions lose Sunday too
I also just don’t think their defenses is as bad as they are trying to claim. Banged up sure but bad? They work with what they got. Lions have had to go through some juggernaut offenses this year starting with Josh Allen, they’ve also had the Packers, Vikings, and others. Bills have really only had 2 bad defensive games this year but since they were more recent they hold a bias towards it.
@HockeyDudeJames2 how so? Qbs bills Hb ravens Wrs and te chiefs Offensive line chiefs Defense line chiefs Linebackers ravens Secondary chiefs Coach chiefs Refs chiefs K, I guess, ravens Chiefs 6, Ravens 3, Bills 1 I just don't see it, but I also don't watch as often as I know chiefs are going to win.
I'm 100% sure that Nick tweeted out about how the Chiefs haven't allowed 31 points in x amount of games after the Rams-Bills game and now he's like NO ONE TALKS ABOUT SCORING 31 POINTS? Only adding to Wildes take
The problem is exactly what Nick was saying; The Chiefs were doing that at the beginning of the season and are now playing the best they have whereas the Lion's are doing it now which is leading to their worst defensive play of the year. Timing is key and when the defences all get better every round, it becomes harder and harder to score 30+ in a game.
@bennwardhaugh3013 Good point. But for now The Lions keep finding ways to win like The Chiefs have all year and both Teans keep having Nay Sayers saying "this time it won't work" Granted having to put up 30+ every game especially in the Play Offs is a tall order you'd rather not have But Wildes point is that both The Chiefs and The Lions have been putting W's in the win colum inspite of what eye tests or stat sheets, or injury reports say We'll see what happens next week
@ dude, it was week four. Since then they have beaten the Lions and Chiefs. Also, the Bills had hella injuries, in which most players are now back. To use a game which was not representative of the Bills’s current form and health as a point to put the Ravens, who have not been as good as the Bills across the season, above them is a lousy point. Should the 4 win raiders be higher than the Ravens? It’s a stupid point.
It’s a long time coming but it’s beautiful. So many “wtf” and “come on, really?” “We’re below them?” reactions this year. I totally agree with where we are and feel we’ve belonged there all year. Minnesota is a serious team.
I'm losing a lot of respect for Brou as a commentator. You can have your team to root for, but when your clear bias is making you give us some of the most brain dead, logically inconsistent, takes, it really just highlights how incompetent you are at your job. Brou: "The Bills should be below the Ravens. They beat them 3 months ago when the Bills defense was completely decimated and Josh had an entirely new offense with no Amari Cooper yet." Also Brou two minutes later: "The Bills should also be below the Lions, I don't wanna hear about them beating them earlier in the season" Brou has severely regressed from the objective, voice of reason, "adult of the show" role into just another shill and is now basically Nick Wright for the Ravens instead of the Chiefs, except not as witty or funny.
Couldn't have said it any better. Disrespectful, biased and a hypocrit. Lost all respect I had for him, while Nick actually has decency and objectivity when no Chiefs are at play.
As a Rams fan I feel the same. He brings up the loss against Dolphins all the time, yet fails to mention that we beat the Vikings and Bills and took a healthy Lions to OT. He’s even more biased than Nick with his takes tbh
I agree on those Takes. bills has defense has been horrible besides against the Patriots in the last 4 games. Ravens looks better and Lions was right there with the Bills DESPITE having decimated defense.
The Ravens still have the better roster. That's why if the Bills beat them in the playoffs. People need to put the Lamar v Allen to rest. 2-0 vs him in the playoffs.
15:01 wtf is brou talking about ? The bills have zero losses to teams with losing records 😂 literally not one. Ravens, Texans, rams. All divisional leaders. All had .500 or better records even when they played, even . Ironically the ravens were the worst loss they had on paper when they played at 2-2. The error is made worse when compounded with the ravens stat also being wrong. Then add the context: Brou…the Ravens have lost to two teams with a combined record of 7 - 25. Bills don’t have those lapses. Not to mention the ravens should have lost both bengals games but no doubt the first. They’ve beaten some juggernauts in the lions and chiefs and lost a shootout to the rams and in week 5 without their WR1 in Shakir.
Nick has a point, chiefs offense is finally coming together and we all know how dangerous they are in the playoffs, while lions defense is cracking at the worst time. Also doesn’t wildes love to brag about how “defense wins championships “?
@@WordsMatter1982 Not really, just ask the '00 Giants, '01 Rams, '02 Raiders or my '15 Panthers - and that's just off the top of my head without diving into it. Edit: You can also throw in the '18 Rams for good measure.
the thing is, the lions defense already cracked. they’re actually on a “slowly but surely” incline as they get their players back. and i mean even with the “their defense is too bad” argument, their only loss since WEEK 2 was by 6 points to the MVP favorite. They had an 11-game win streak (longest of the season) leading up to that and haven’t lost since that Bills game a few weeks ago. Wildes is right, what’s up with the hypotheticals when the Lions still win ???
@@chasingfelix3609 So they don’t have the best record in the NFC playing a 1st place schedule, 13 games in a row and continue to get discounted and disrespected by Nick Wright? Oh ok.
Not gonna lie this might be one of the best tiers of the season. As much as I don’t like a lot of Nicks takes. He does a very good job with this segment
It's not because the injuries are happening at the complete opposite ends of the season. The Chiefs are healthy and now playing the best they have all year but the Lions are now forced into shootouts because their defence can't stop teams from scoring 30. Having 8 starting defensive players on IR going into the playoffs isn't good for any team.
Can Broussard bring anything other than Baltimore beat Buffalo by 25? Dude, it was like 10 weeks ago. Buffalo has gotten cooper and Milano back. They are a better team now than they were then. Find something else to say. It’s a broken record. Like 7 straight weeks he says the same thing over and over and over again
The difference between the chiefs offensive injuries and the Lions defensive injuries is the Chiefs have gotten many of those players back at the end of the season.
Timing is such a key factor there and it's one that Wildes is grossly overlooking. It's also known that it's harder and harder to make games a shootout in the playoffs when the defences get better and have more time to focus on a specific opponent.
@ no they don’t you just saying that because that’s what you hear. Our entire defense was way worse last year we had no corners and we made the nfc championship game so clearly they don’t matter as much as you think
@@Djturnt Just stop already. You're clearly far too deep into your fandom to be using the thing between your ears, otherwise you wouldn't have said something as asinine as injuries don't matter. It's even gotten so bad that you're disproving your own argument as you speak because why didn't you make the Superbowl if they didn't matter? The final nail in your argument is that you moved the goalposts within the same comment by starting with a definitive "no, they don't matter" to ending with "they don't matter as much as you think". Whether you like it or not, people have a right to be sceptical of a team that can't stop their opponents scoring 30+. This is doubly true if this is the worst they've played defensively going into the playoffs.
To Kevin Wildes about the Chiefs not scoring 30 or more points this season...there are at least two games where the Chiefs could have scored if they chose to, but instead opted to run out the clock and take the W. One was where Samaje Perine literally slid at the 5 yard line rather than score a TD, and the other was the Steelers game where Mahomes came out and Wentz went in almost half of the 4th quarter. I believe there was one other game where the Chiefs had the ball in close field goal range with 27 or 28 points with less than a minute left and they knelt out the game.
Kansas City reminds me of the Ravens last year. Very arrogant and having two weeks off. The real reason Nick is saying that foolishness about the Ravens is that he's praying the Ravens get knocked out.😂
remember how annoying it was when the brady pats and their fans always accused everyone of disrespecting them and how they are the real underdogs even though they were nearly always the odds on favorites to win the chip? turns out its just as annoying when the chiefs and their fans do it too.
@@burgerdaveee Lol! So you're apparently not smart enough to realize the examples I gave you prove your original point completely bogus... oh well... it is the internet... nobody said you had to have common sense to post👍😅
Well, maybe people should stop disrespecting them 😂. -Vegas putting the Niners as #1 favourites to win it all as soon as they lost this past SB to the B2B champs. -Chiefs not being the #1 favourite to win it all despite being the B2B champs and having the best record in the league. -Folks calling this the worst 15-1 team ever. -Mahomes and McDuffie not making the pro-bowl. These are all things that happened in reality. If you want Chiefs fans to stop playing the "disrespected" card, stop disrespecting them.
Wildes: defense wins championships Also wildes: I’m a qb wins guy I’ve been watching these guys for years and I’ve just realized this massive contradiction in wildes’s beliefs
Omg Brou!! This is like the 8th week in a row you make the SAME argument. It is old. The Ravens beat the Bills. True. The Bills beat both 1 seeds and only lost to playoff teams, while the Ravens lost to the Browns and Raiders 😂
@steveoshei1819 TV personalities usually change their takes simply due to needing to keep it fresh. For him to keep making this same tired argument without even addressing the counterpoint is weird
The fact that Brou who used to defend the bills when they ended up losing in the playoffs and nick who hated them now have essentially swapped roles gives me an odd sense of hope this year
Bills doesn’t have best OLines in the conference?? Allen escape ability is the key.. most QB should get sack, Allen will escape.. Allen also can throw in tight situations. This had lot to do with Allen’s ability to help OLines by doing many things which, usually is not able to do by other QBs..
Brou is out of control with the Bills hate. His only argument all season is the “blowout” game back in September. Bills were missing half their D, 3 Starters on Offense and were on a short week on the road. The whole offense wasn’t in sync as they were all knew to the team except 1 WR. The game was closer than it looked and there was a few huge plays that turned the game. Henry rushed for 200 yards and Lamar just had to hand it off. That’s not happening in the playoffs and if Lamar has to throw the ball, it’s a different story. He never brings up Ravens losses to the Browns and Raiders! Lol cmon man
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"Everybody loves Mike Tomlin." Is that the same Mike Tomlin who, as Pittsburgh HC, stepped off the sidelines and onto the field and tripped a player from the opposing team who was in the process of running a kick back for a TD? That Mike Tomlin? Yeah, great guy. If he'd shaved his head he'd be in for some real criticism from Nick. If he gains a thousand lbs he'll be immune from Nick criticism for eternity.
I'm no hall-of-fame statistician, but the team Tomlin's Steelers remind me of most (all the good seasons and one-and-done postseasons) is Schottenheimer's Chiefs. The Chiefs were that team who had great regular seasons and then went nowhere in the postseason for a long time.
"I guess they're 15-1 by dumb luck" YES, you blinkered fanboy! That is exactly reality! Without a nice, big, fat, heaping, piled-on helping of plain old dumb luck, the Chiefs would be 12-4 or 13-3. Which is not to say they aren't a great team, because they are. One could easily make the argument that they're the best team in the NFL this year. AND YES, THEY'RE 15-1 BECAUSE OF A VERY GENEROUS HELPING OF DUMB LUCK.
Try logic Nick, it's fun and profitable: the Chiefs can be the best team in the NFL this year AND HAVE A 15-1 RECORD BECAUSE OF A GOOD DOSE OF DUMB LUCK; they can also be the best and lose in the postseason. Welcome to a world where you have to play the games and you don't just get to submit your resume and get SB rings in return.
Um it's not the Bills first championship. Bills were back to back AFL champions before the merger. We going to disregard all teams histories? You meant to say Superbowl. Know the history first before you claim to be a sports media journalist, thank you!
Can we get a segment called "Where the Wildes Things Are"? I have no idea what the segment would be about but the name is legit
Love the nostalgia
It could be on "wildes card weekend" 🧐
Could be an unexpected match up or player to watch go off or "go wild" to match the segment?
Boosted
The most unexpected stats that could happen in games for the upcoming games in the weekend: "Goals Gone Wildes".
I still can’t believe Greg predicted the 49ers not making the playoffs… That has to be the greatest prediction of this season
Only because of injuries. Don’t act like Greg is smart
@@motherlodebassin5369cope harder kid 😂
I predicted the same sht. 😆
@motherlodebassin5369 Purdy suks and your WRS are toxic. Asking CMC to sustain a insane amount of punishment for another 18 games is a little too good to be true.
@@motherlodebassin5369 that was his reasoning lol. He said they wouldn't be injury free again
Wildes bodied his argument. One of the best arguments for the tiers I’ve seen
I had flashes of Simpsons "stop, he's already dead" meme.
He cooked Nick
Most definitely cooked
You can tell when he does too because nick sits there like a kid who got put in his place
Wildes had a great argument about the lions and chiefs being the flip sides of the same coin
But Nick also made a good a point that the Chiefs offense is picking up now whereas the Lions defense is on a decline. Just putting it out there.
@@Pescasaurus I actually agree with Nick he made a great point. Even though the Lions are winning, it's nowhere near as dominant as it was earlier in the season. This SHOULD be cause for concern come playoff time.
@@matthewsdonnellythe lions are getting there players back so the same can be said
@@Pescasaurus So I'm curious. If the lions get a dub against the Vikings, then is Nick's point wrong? Why does a hypothetical always the stitch for the Lions. I mean.. how many times was the "The Lions are going too hard early on in the season; It's not sustainable" talking point used. They keep getting W's as Wildes stated and that's all that matters...
I think everyone had a really good argument this is an elite tiers segment
Wildes is right about the Lions and Chiefs. Despite everything, they WIN.
He wasn't right though. The Chiefs offense is peaking right now and they just blew out a playoff team on the road on a short week. The Lions barely beat a mediocre 49ers team and needed their awful QB to throw two brain dead interceptions right to Kerby Joseph.
@@lwshamilton44 Since Hutchinson broke his leg and their defense started getting decimated, the Lions beat the Vikings, the Packers TWICE, the Bears TWICE, the Texans and the 49ers (who played their balls off), among others. They are the only NFL team that hasn't lost on the road this year, and they put up 42 on the Bills, who also beat the Chiefs. The Lions just keep WINNING despite all the chaos and damage. They deserve to be in second place behind the Chiefs.
The whole 31 points things is crazy talk. Think about all the games KC takes a game winning field goal, goes into victory formation or slides in bounds to not score a TD and keep the clock running. KC has number 1 seed, resting players to get ready for the run. Lions have a much tougher road ahead. Hopefully both teams make it and we can see if they are on the same coin or not…
@@frankpentangeli7945 No they don't. The difference is the Chiefs are getting healthier while the Lions continue to get more injured. All offense and no defense doesn't work in the playoffs as they will eventually play a team with a solid offense and can also make a few stops.
There is a very realistic chance they lose this week to the Vikings and fall to the 5 seed where they then lose to the Bucs who also have a solid offense but can play decent defense
@GoodwinPhotoBlog make all the excuses you want. A team with mahomes on it should put up more than 31 at least one time in a season. The offense isn't good. The defense carries that team. To have that good of a defense and to only average 24 points a game is criminal. If the chiefs had a league average defense they would put up 20 points a game and be fighting for a playoff spot. A win is a win but when you look at the end of the Denver game and squeaking out wins vs bad teams, it just looks more and more like the minnesota vikings from a couple years back when they would win all their games by the thinnest of margins only to fall apart when it matters in the playoffs. 11 of the chiefs 15 wins were one score games. The only time the defense gave up 30 or more points the chiefs lost. That bills game showed that if you can score on the defense, the offense won't be able to keep up. The chiefs don't match-up well against the bills or lions because those teams average more points per game than the chiefs have managed to put up in one game all season long.
NGL my boy Wildes is awesome, this is the best trio in sports they complement each other wonderfully love them all!
Wildes carries Nick.
KW made this segment. This show needs to now be called Wildes Things First please.
The vid came out two minutes ago lol
Don’t let bro cook again.
He generally does. Carrying Nick can't be easy.
Wildes Things Wildes
Lol this wildes you can tell by the last comments he's done
Wildes made a great argument for the Lions.
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Mushrooms 😂
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Vegas lol
On acid at a casino, huh? I feel like better decisions could be made
Fear and loathing in Las Vegas lol
Bro, Nick's laugh at 00:37 was insane LMFAO
Bro lagged out 😂
Kawhi ahh laugh
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Sounding like Voldemort
Everything Brou said about the bills and why they should move down is exactly why Joeh Allen is the obvious MvP and part of the reason the offensive line for Buffalo looks so good is bc Josh helps them by being elusive and anticipating/escaping pressure to extend plays (bills o-line is really good too though!).
also talking about pushing all the teams above the bills and the lions are fine until it leads to losses even though the bills beat both the chiefs and lions
Lamar actually is number 1 in the stat you are describing with 28. And not only that he is the best at turning would be sacks into positives.
Josh is like 4th I believe
But that doesn't account for the run game.
Just watch some Bills tape this year of the offensive line. The OLine Committee podcast has done a bunch of film breakdowns of the Bills and they'll show you why Dion might be the best LT in football.
Being a mobile QB actually makes the OLine grade worse.
@@bankslaw8900 yet Lamar has twice the sacks
Brou is living off 35-10 game back in early october
And Josh fans/media think he's MVP because of wins vs. KC without Pacheco, Butker & Hollywood/Rice & DET w/ half their defense on IR playing 3rd strings 😂
@@OBPMAlamar fans like to ignore that he lost to 2 of the worst teams in the league this year.
@@OBPMAyou realize the Bills were without many starters as well for both those games plus many other games.
I mean I get it teams in October aren’t the same as they are in early January but it’s not like we should COMPLETELY do away with early season games. Nick always bring up Week 1 and even last season when talking Chiefs vs Ravens.
@@renren225. Nobodies ignoring that.
“Less vaping” 😂😂😂
A Nick Diss lol 😅😅😅
He vapes?@@aquaviii
Nick smokes ⛽.@@jesse8028
@@jesse8028he used to
@@jesse8028 yea Wildes called him out in a other episode
Wildes came correct with the Lions-Chiefs comparison!!
i mean they both lost to the bills so thats the best comparison.
Facts!!!
You guys continue to be idiots.
No he didn't its a trash argument. The Chiefs are both sides not just one side like the Lions, thats why he had to fake the stats by using 28 instead of 30 he's been using all year for the Chiefs. The Chiefs don't score over 30 but only 1 team has scored 30 or more on them all year. Can't say nearly the same for the Lions.
The chiefs offense was never as bad as the lions defense rn
I can’t wait for the lions to put bta to them boys Detroit vs Everybody
Nick a salty hater cause he knows the Lions will beat the Chiefs straight Bta
You guys are getting cooked In playoffs
@@connorharvard3873 They say we cooked and all we do is win. Saying we are going to get cooked after at least a 14 win season is crazy work. Like the original comment said.. Detroit Vs Everybody
@@Jstef09since when is 2 losses, all we do is win… might not even win the division.
@@GoodwinPhotoBlog You’re joking right? Every team has a loss this season! So you’re proving that we are a top tier team now in the toughest division for the NFC? Thanks? Hating is not good for the soul
Wildes the only man with any respect for the lions.
Nick been hating on the Lions all year
Because he knows they can beat his beloved Chiefs. 😅
@@remykeijzer8527precisely he’s threatened by them
PROTECT THIS CREW AT ALL COSTS
Including the bench players coach n Greg
Including the bench players coach and Greg
Nick can go. The other 4 are fire
@@beastmode3799nick be hurting y'all feelings lmao
@@user-lv9cu yeah my feelings are so hurt. I have tears on my screen rn
Another segment, another opportunity for Brou to bring up a game that happened 3 months ago. I mean he aint wrong the bills are way too high but seriously? A week 4 game has never held this much precedent
He's really been dining out on that one. Helps him cope with the five Ravens losses, or whatever it is.
One teams D has greatly improved the other hasnt so Brou is right
So what. They bring up games from years ago. Cope
Bills are the second best team in the league. that's all. Chiefs (almost all historical precedent and accomplishment) Bills Lions. that's all.
@@mikeplumer7687The Bills had 2 bad defensive games this year. You guys are reaching hard lol.
THANK YOU Kevin Wildes.
I've been saying this for weeks.
Bro that Baltimore Buffalo game shapes literally every one of Brous arguments in this segment 😂
Lions gave Minnesota 10 points and a scoop and score on the road. That is why it was close. Y’all only look at the box scores.
The Vikings almost always jump out to leads, and they create havoc on defense, what makes you think they won’t continue to do that?
@@forrestasp3047because they didn’t do it the first time or anytime we’ve played over the last 2 years
Exactly they had a 10 point lead after the 1st quarter and were down 21-10 at half but that don’t matter😂
Thank you nick for giving James Cook some credit
This can be such a great show. They have to work on keeping Nick from dominating every conversation. He has more screen time than everyone combined a lot of shows. Him droning on and on (usually about the same couple topics) gets old. When he talks nonstop and KW barely says a word, it's not as good of a show.
Your chemistry is awesome... love watching your shows...
The Bills are correctly placed. That game from 3 months ago means NOTHING, the Bills beat the Lions recently, I still trust the Bills defense over the Ravens, and Josh is just better than Jalen / Sam. They're #2. Only team I'm actually a little scared of as a Chiefs fan. (It would be the Lions if they were actually healthy)
The Bills had 4 of 5 starters in their secondary injured for the last month. That's when their defense fell off. They should have everyone back for the playoffs.
I get Sam but Jalen is a proven winner and actually made it to a SB. Can’t really say that about Josh.
Non ball knower
Bills have played a much weaker schedule than the Ravens and the Ravens are much better against playoff teams.
They’re not better than Baltimore
@idohearthatersdgk That's because Allen had to get past Mahomes... and couldn't... just like Jalen😅
The goalpost moved on Herbert. Before the year Nick said the Charger didn’t have a chance because they had sold this year and were salary strapped. Now, because they’ve been fairly successful he’s in a “must win” scenario.
It’s crazy because I was a fan of Nick Wright when he was bald and shouting from the mountain top about LeBron (which I still agree with) and now it’s hard to listen to full segments from the bias and negativity towards the Lions. Have loved KW since first segment he did and he hit the nail on the head. Thanks Wildes!!
You and me both bro. It really hurts my heart some days too man and I want the old Nick back lol but I get it(to a degree)
Wildes killed it!!! Wonderful point of view and a great argument/point
Nick is absolutely right about the Bills - they have the best OL in the league. All we have to do is watch their red zone offense. Allen and Cook practically walk into the end zone untouched half the time, and rush in with minimal resistance the other half.
And that offense is horrible
@@blowc1612absolute rage bait.
18:20 And why is Goff not in the MVP discussion?
Best o line and weapons hurts him
Not accurate in the least@@mikeplumer7687
@@mikeplumer7687every team with a winning record has a good o line and weapons name me a team that doesn’t
@@Djturnt Chiefs haha
As a Lions fan, it is probably because of his 5 int game vs Houston
I wish wildes would do the "BBBUUUURRRRRRNN the midnight oil!!" 😂
Man I love Wildes. Absolutely my favorite person in sports talk by a mile.
If Josh Allen completes Nicks 'perfect season'
It will be declared a national holiday by media.
And, kind of, rightfully so.
Man that would be amazing! Go bills!
Nick’s so quick to criticize the Lions defense but never the Bills terrible defense in an effort to prop up the chiefs
Exactly the lions defense is bad so they aren’t top 5 bills defense is worse but they’re 2 even tho the bills beat both the lions and chiefs he is so biased it’s ridiculous and acting under the idea that the lions lose Sunday too
It's funny how much better the Ravens roster is than everyone else in the AFC.
I also just don’t think their defenses is as bad as they are trying to claim. Banged up sure but bad? They work with what they got. Lions have had to go through some juggernaut offenses this year starting with Josh Allen, they’ve also had the Packers, Vikings, and others. Bills have really only had 2 bad defensive games this year but since they were more recent they hold a bias towards it.
@HockeyDudeJames2 how so?
Qbs bills
Hb ravens
Wrs and te chiefs
Offensive line chiefs
Defense line chiefs
Linebackers ravens
Secondary chiefs
Coach chiefs
Refs chiefs
K, I guess, ravens
Chiefs 6, Ravens 3, Bills 1
I just don't see it, but I also don't watch as often as I know chiefs are going to win.
I'm 100% sure that Nick tweeted out about how the Chiefs haven't allowed 31 points in x amount of games after the Rams-Bills game and now he's like NO ONE TALKS ABOUT SCORING 31 POINTS? Only adding to Wildes take
He did
Still putting Sirianni on the hot seat is ridiculous
He crazy get em out of philly
He easily is on the hot seat.
Only people outside of Philly think that. He is not going anywhere even if they lose R1
Cuz he’s a bad coach? 😂with a great team that can’t get it done
@@icey2203 bro has the highest win % among all active coaches and went to a super bowl already. Wtf are you smoking
I don’t think Brou watches the games
He doesn’t for sure
I've been suspicious of that for awhile now.
3-3 against teams going to the playoffs. That should factor in the allen mvp talk
Lamar 7-3😂
@drb5003 exactly. But no one wants to mention it for some reason
Then we got to talk about the two losses Lamar has against non playoff teams.oops🤭
So then Mahomes should be MVP?
Only team to beat the chiefs. Just stop it. Your team has 9 pro bowlers and you went 11-5 😂🪦
The Lions Chiefs comparison is Accurate! I see you Wildes
The problem is exactly what Nick was saying; The Chiefs were doing that at the beginning of the season and are now playing the best they have whereas the Lion's are doing it now which is leading to their worst defensive play of the year.
Timing is key and when the defences all get better every round, it becomes harder and harder to score 30+ in a game.
@bennwardhaugh3013 Good point. But for now The Lions keep finding ways to win like The Chiefs have all year and both Teans keep having Nay Sayers saying "this time it won't work"
Granted having to put up 30+ every game especially in the Play Offs is a tall order you'd rather not have
But Wildes point is that both The Chiefs and The Lions have been putting W's in the win colum inspite of what eye tests or stat sheets, or injury reports say
We'll see what happens next week
@@bennwardhaugh3013so why were they at the top this whole season when they were struggling ?
I would love to see either the Bills, Detroit, or Vikings win the superbowl and get rid of Kelce and Swift and Mahomes for good.
Brou with the Ravens - Bills games is the NFL media equivalent of the ninja low taper fade meme
Y’all hate the truth they lost by 25 that matters you can’t just sweep it under the rug
@ dude, it was week four. Since then they have beaten the Lions and Chiefs. Also, the Bills had hella injuries, in which most players are now back. To use a game which was not representative of the Bills’s current form and health as a point to put the Ravens, who have not been as good as the Bills across the season, above them is a lousy point. Should the 4 win raiders be higher than the Ravens? It’s a stupid point.
@@feltypaladin1988it's a Lamar vs Allen talking point for the uniformed. It's funny actually.
It’s a long time coming but it’s beautiful. So many “wtf” and “come on, really?” “We’re below them?” reactions this year. I totally agree with where we are and feel we’ve belonged there all year. Minnesota is a serious team.
I'm losing a lot of respect for Brou as a commentator. You can have your team to root for, but when your clear bias is making you give us some of the most brain dead, logically inconsistent, takes, it really just highlights how incompetent you are at your job.
Brou: "The Bills should be below the Ravens. They beat them 3 months ago when the Bills defense was completely decimated and Josh had an entirely new offense with no Amari Cooper yet."
Also Brou two minutes later: "The Bills should also be below the Lions, I don't wanna hear about them beating them earlier in the season"
Brou has severely regressed from the objective, voice of reason, "adult of the show" role into just another shill and is now basically Nick Wright for the Ravens instead of the Chiefs, except not as witty or funny.
Couldn't have said it any better. Disrespectful, biased and a hypocrit. Lost all respect I had for him, while Nick actually has decency and objectivity when no Chiefs are at play.
As a Rams fan I feel the same. He brings up the loss against Dolphins all the time, yet fails to mention that we beat the Vikings and Bills and took a healthy Lions to OT. He’s even more biased than Nick with his takes tbh
but the bills shouldnt be 3 tiers above the lions.
I agree on those Takes. bills has defense has been horrible besides against the Patriots in the last 4 games. Ravens looks better and Lions was right there with the Bills DESPITE having decimated defense.
The Ravens still have the better roster. That's why if the Bills beat them in the playoffs. People need to put the Lamar v Allen to rest. 2-0 vs him in the playoffs.
15:01 wtf is brou talking about ? The bills have zero losses to teams with losing records 😂 literally not one. Ravens, Texans, rams. All divisional leaders. All had .500 or better records even when they played, even . Ironically the ravens were the worst loss they had on paper when they played at 2-2.
The error is made worse when compounded with the ravens stat also being wrong. Then add the context:
Brou…the Ravens have lost to two teams with a combined record of 7 - 25. Bills don’t have those lapses. Not to mention the ravens should have lost both bengals games but no doubt the first. They’ve beaten some juggernauts in the lions and chiefs and lost a shootout to the rams and in week 5 without their WR1 in Shakir.
It's to prop up Lamar in the MVP debate.
Ravens were actually 1-2 when they played.
Nick has a point, chiefs offense is finally coming together and we all know how dangerous they are in the playoffs, while lions defense is cracking at the worst time. Also doesn’t wildes love to brag about how “defense wins championships “?
Exactly this.
Defense only wins championships when Wildes and Brou want them to be better than the Chiefs.
@@WordsMatter1982 Not really, just ask the '00 Giants, '01 Rams, '02 Raiders or my '15 Panthers - and that's just off the top of my head without diving into it.
Edit: You can also throw in the '18 Rams for good measure.
the thing is, the lions defense already cracked. they’re actually on a “slowly but surely” incline as they get their players back. and i mean even with the “their defense is too bad” argument, their only loss since WEEK 2 was by 6 points to the MVP favorite. They had an 11-game win streak (longest of the season) leading up to that and haven’t lost since that Bills game a few weeks ago. Wildes is right, what’s up with the hypotheticals when the Lions still win ???
Wilds made the exact arguement i wanted to scream at nick! Thank you king
I really appreciate Nick saying the Vikings have probably been disrespected.
Wildes, my guy what a W analysis on the lions! Keep going my dude!!! Have a good weekend KW!
At this point Nick just continues to poo all over the Lions.
He’s not wrong about them
Defense giving up 32 a game is awful
@@chasingfelix3609 So they don’t have the best record in the NFC playing a 1st place schedule, 13 games in a row and continue to get discounted and disrespected by Nick Wright? Oh ok.
@@chasingfelix3609yes he is
@@juultoobut they still wins
Can we get a segment called "Brou Goes Wildes" and Brou creates his own mountain but as a doffernt shape like a cliff or volcano lol
The Tier is labeled Eliminated, and it has its own graphic. The red X’s are redundant anyway 😂
The X's are for mathematically eliminated teams.
@ maybe just split the tier blocks?
Wildes made the best point of this whole segment
Bru can NEVER let go of the week 5 Ravens Bills game 😂
bills beat them in the playoffs
Brou" yeah but they did beat them in week four" 😅
@@HockeyDudeJames2 bills could win it all and they’ll still be like 35-10 😂😂
Wildes again bringing the logic and fire
As a Vikings fan I don’t like that we’re getting media attention now. Just keep us under the radar or we’ll start losing.
Rich Eisan put the vikings at Rank 1 in his power rankings. The last time he did that was right before the vikings played the lions and rams.
yall about to brave this spotlight
Commander fan here and I know EXACTLY what you mean.
It’s not going to matter man.
As a Lions fan just let me say, y'all are cooked
Good Lions rant by Wildes.
Nobody even expected the Chargers to make the playoffs. If they stay at the 6 seed they're supposed to beat the Ravens? 😂
Chargers have NO SHOT in Baltimore so I would cut Herbert some slack
Nick hates on every good team that’s not the chiefs. The Chiefs are mid this year I’m looking forward to them losing
Prepare to keep looking
Another sad boi hating on the Chiefs because they always beat his favorite team.
You don’t know ball
You should bet your life savings on them losing. Since you're so dialed in.
They lost one game what are u watching
Not gonna lie this might be one of the best tiers of the season. As much as I don’t like a lot of Nicks takes. He does a very good job with this segment
I thought the tiers were perfect I don’t understand why Lions fans are crying so much
Remember Buffalo's lack of weapons when you do your MVP voting
Ravens fans have gone insane on twitter Nick is correct about that. I think this is a fairly accurate tier list.
Great point by Kevin Wildes with the Lions and Chiefs.
It's not because the injuries are happening at the complete opposite ends of the season. The Chiefs are healthy and now playing the best they have all year but the Lions are now forced into shootouts because their defence can't stop teams from scoring 30.
Having 8 starting defensive players on IR going into the playoffs isn't good for any team.
Can Broussard bring anything other than Baltimore beat Buffalo by 25? Dude, it was like 10 weeks ago. Buffalo has gotten cooper and Milano back. They are a better team now than they were then. Find something else to say. It’s a broken record. Like 7 straight weeks he says the same thing over and over and over again
-triggered bills fan
@ actually I’m a dolphin fan. Just tired of the rerun take all season
James cook is awesome but he still has less than 1000 rushing yards
Mcduffie not making a pro bowl is insanity.
💯 KC won’t forget the disrespect. Turned 38 into a playoff beast last season.
Especially when they put Humphreys in ?
Nick sneaking in there with the purple love and GREG THE VIKING back in! My Man! Missed you brother.
Just when I was out, they bring me back in! Sam Darnold MVP
The difference between the chiefs offensive injuries and the Lions defensive injuries is the Chiefs have gotten many of those players back at the end of the season.
Timing is such a key factor there and it's one that Wildes is grossly overlooking. It's also known that it's harder and harder to make games a shootout in the playoffs when the defences get better and have more time to focus on a specific opponent.
And the lions have gotten back 7 players with this week currently since the bills game
@@Djturnt But they're still missing 8 as the graphic they showed proved.
In the playoffs, these things mean something.
@ no they don’t you just saying that because that’s what you hear. Our entire defense was way worse last year we had no corners and we made the nfc championship game so clearly they don’t matter as much as you think
@@Djturnt Just stop already.
You're clearly far too deep into your fandom to be using the thing between your ears, otherwise you wouldn't have said something as asinine as injuries don't matter.
It's even gotten so bad that you're disproving your own argument as you speak because why didn't you make the Superbowl if they didn't matter?
The final nail in your argument is that you moved the goalposts within the same comment by starting with a definitive "no, they don't matter" to ending with "they don't matter as much as you think".
Whether you like it or not, people have a right to be sceptical of a team that can't stop their opponents scoring 30+. This is doubly true if this is the worst they've played defensively going into the playoffs.
To Kevin Wildes about the Chiefs not scoring 30 or more points this season...there are at least two games where the Chiefs could have scored if they chose to, but instead opted to run out the clock and take the W. One was where Samaje Perine literally slid at the 5 yard line rather than score a TD, and the other was the Steelers game where Mahomes came out and Wentz went in almost half of the 4th quarter. I believe there was one other game where the Chiefs had the ball in close field goal range with 27 or 28 points with less than a minute left and they knelt out the game.
I need the Lions to beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl with Goff as MVP. I want to see Nick's TEARS.
Lmao lions ain’t making to the Super Bowl with that a$$ defense
I want the Chiefs to lose in rnd 1 just to shut nick up.
Yes plz bring that defense to the SB 😂
Chiefs are coming out of the AFC but will lose in the Super Bowl as much as I hate to admit it
Kansas City reminds me of the Ravens last year. Very arrogant and having two weeks off. The real reason Nick is saying that foolishness about the Ravens is that he's praying the Ravens get knocked out.😂
What about a qb that elevates his play in the playoffs Instead of declining? ppl jus be talking😂
Outside of having the best coach, qb and defense, and being two time defending Champs, they're EXACTLY THE SAME!
Your love for a mediocre QB is strange.
KW owns Nick when it comes to the Lions.. Way to go KW
19:29 NICK YOU DO THE SAME "PICKING" STATS TO MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT 😂
Exactly, he's a fun guy to watch, but comfortably uses the most disingenuous arguments by anyone since Skip.
Baltimore deserves to be below the Lions until Lamar and the defense prove UNEQUIVOCALLY they can do it in the playoffs. And so far I have my doubts
His defense shut out the chiefs in the second half last year though..
9:35 If Josh did that he'd have the QB2 title for the next 2 years at least I'll give him that🫡
10:50 Greg u been smoking Sam Darnold will become a pumpkin in the playoffs
He sure has! They are hyping up the Vikings so when they fall they can say "he's was on pumpkin watch and we knew this would happen".
I think so too. But to be fair I’ve also thought that for half this year.
Wildes CRUSHED THIS!
remember how annoying it was when the brady pats and their fans always accused everyone of disrespecting them and how they are the real underdogs even though they were nearly always the odds on favorites to win the chip? turns out its just as annoying when the chiefs and their fans do it too.
🤦♂️😅Seriously dude? You been living under a rock? Can't score 30! Worse 9-0 team ever! Worse 15-1 team ever!😂 Yes... that is disrespect...
@@ForsakenWar case in point
@@burgerdaveee Lol! So you're apparently not smart enough to realize the examples I gave you prove your original point completely bogus... oh well... it is the internet... nobody said you had to have common sense to post👍😅
Well, maybe people should stop disrespecting them 😂.
-Vegas putting the Niners as #1 favourites to win it all as soon as they lost this past SB to the B2B champs.
-Chiefs not being the #1 favourite to win it all despite being the B2B champs and having the best record in the league.
-Folks calling this the worst 15-1 team ever.
-Mahomes and McDuffie not making the pro-bowl.
These are all things that happened in reality. If you want Chiefs fans to stop playing the "disrespected" card, stop disrespecting them.
@danielalejandrofernandez5907 Exactly 👍
Wildes: defense wins championships
Also wildes: I’m a qb wins guy
I’ve been watching these guys for years and I’ve just realized this massive contradiction in wildes’s beliefs
Not sure how a team that’s 14-2, holds dance rehearsals after practice and have a loud online fan base is “quietly” anything
Chiefs had 29 points with 12 min left in the 4th quarter and quit trying stop with the 31 point nonsense. Andy Reid just won’t run it up on teams.
Omg Brou!! This is like the 8th week in a row you make the SAME argument. It is old. The Ravens beat the Bills. True. The Bills beat both 1 seeds and only lost to playoff teams, while the Ravens lost to the Browns and Raiders 😂
He's lazy and doesn't do any research. He's actually bad at analyzing football.
@steveoshei1819 TV personalities usually change their takes simply due to needing to keep it fresh. For him to keep making this same tired argument without even addressing the counterpoint is weird
5:06 it will be too much to ask if they get Baltimore on the road 😂
Bingo!
The fact that Brou who used to defend the bills when they ended up losing in the playoffs and nick who hated them now have essentially swapped roles gives me an odd sense of hope this year
best segment on sports talk
If mike was a white Coach y'all be asking for his head on a platter
No cause, he still has winning seasons.... and take okay qbs to the playoffs 😉
Bills doesn’t have best OLines in the conference?? Allen escape ability is the key.. most QB should get sack, Allen will escape.. Allen also can throw in tight situations. This had lot to do with Allen’s ability to help OLines by doing many things which, usually is not able to do by other QBs..
“Brou: You must be joshing” 😂😂
I’m really looking forward to the playoffs this year. I think there’s gonna be some great storylines.
Brou is out of control with the Bills hate. His only argument all season is the “blowout” game back in September. Bills were missing half their D, 3 Starters on Offense and were on a short week on the road. The whole offense wasn’t in sync as they were all knew to the team except 1 WR. The game was closer than it looked and there was a few huge plays that turned the game. Henry rushed for 200 yards and Lamar just had to hand it off. That’s not happening in the playoffs and if Lamar has to throw the ball, it’s a different story. He never brings up Ravens losses to the Browns and Raiders! Lol cmon man
Why do people call it hate when someone disagrees with? That’s like someone saying you hating on the ravens lol
Why are people STILL giving burrow excuses? Dude has 2 number 1 wrs and HAS had them his entire freakin career.
Jeremiah Love from Notre Dame with another win, be ready Brou, nicknames will be needed
Nick is hyping the bills to bolster his chiefs takes 😂
Wilde's said "hike the ball", haven't heard that in awhile.
We need a weekly Wildes Vibes Tiers
Jennings made great points about the Vikings.
Still dont know how I feel as a Bills fan when Nick is the one defending us😂