People don't want second hand EV's The Netherlands already have dealers who refuse te trade in EV's in spite of the fact that the amount of chargingstations are highest in the world. The greenies are desparate as the sales plummet. Diesel en petrol are still reliable for the coming 15years whilst EV's are ready to be scrapped because no one wants them. So dream on. Politicians can never control the market.
No EV will take over in the next 5 years. Petrol and diesel euro 5 or lower will eventually be banned from cities just like in Holland. Petrol stations will face higher and higher license fees to hold petrol but tax incentives for EV chargers so the opposite will start to occur where there far less petrol stations. Higher petrol costs eventually. Higher road tax, taxes for car dealers holding petrol second cars on their forecourt’s. I know on some of these coming a reality as I work in public sector. I’m paying for parking at work so I presume at some point this will be passed over to the private sector.
@@cmmgray Because you work as a civil servant, you should serve the public in stead of stealing from the people who pay your salary. Your proposals on taxation are the ultimate of public dictatorship.
Busy towns with high pollution will make it very expensive for combustion cars to enter or leave.Childrens longs are more important than a piece of metal spewing poison out.
Not really true. People WANT EVs. The problem is that EVs are not really practical or cheap enough YET. But they will be. Sure, a subset of people like internal combustion engines BECAUSE they are internal combustion engines. Vroom Vroom etc :). I'm one of them at least for motorbikes, but the vast majority of people don't care and when an EV alternative arrives (and it will), they WILL buy it.
@@foppo100 "Metal spewing poison" in combination with "childrens longs" is the ideal framing of fear without any knowledge. Busy towns will be emptied and inhabitable as people are restricted and controlled in their movements. Your propaganda exceeds he former Sovjet Union.
@@ThrottleJunkieYT USA sales is only at 6.8% it's going to take a long time before we see 50 to 70% of cars been on the road replaced with EV's My bet is it will be more like 30 years before we see 50 to 70% of EV's on the road there are just way too many issues with EV's that are putting people of from buying one like Running Costs, Repair Cost, charging , Batterie's catch fire and so and so the list is too long
There might not be any Government u turn, however the EV market is unsustainable. The Big Club may want nobody on the road, but there are more plebs than Big Club members. The market will determine what survives, I don't forsee any ev mass take up. The EV was never meant to be the answer it was the means to end motoring & confine you to your 15 minute ghetto.
I don’t need one. I’m an automotive engineer for a large car manufacturer. I know what the future holds for cars, whether or not you choose to listen is your choice.
I still struggle to work out how an electric car which is effectively written off after 8 years when the battery {who's minerals are mined half a world away through exploitation} gives up, can remotely be considered "green", when you can keep an 'ice' car on the road indefinitely.. The 'worker ants', are clearly no longer welcome on the road, because the majority of people who keep the economy ticking increasingly cannot afford the luxury of a house with a driveway to charge the car up on, or afford the damn thing in the first place.
The government may have adjusted the targets, but car manufacturers haven’t changed their plans. The key word here being “adjusted” the targets, the end goal still remains the same and will be achieved.
@@str0w4er The same place where the electricity for all these new heat pump - Out of think air! Take away any government incentives and no one would buy an EV. Only fleet car sales and mobility schemes are propping up EV sales.
You are so wrong m8 the infrastructure is unattainable for elec ,we can not produce enough electricity to charge them m8 do u ever listen to what u are saying
You have an incredible grasp on what is and isn't possible. Science thanks you for saving them all that wasted time. Those silly actual scientists, engineers and, every car company on the planet.
Absolutely useless in cold weather I’ve got a eqa 250+ ment to do 340 miles was just about getting 250 miles now we have had 2 weeks of cold weather not even getting 130 miles would give this car back in a heartbeat if I didn’t sign a 4 year lease
Unfortunately I can’t reveal my “evidence” as it’s part of my day job as an engineer for an automotive company. I can only provide you with the information I can. Where is your evidence for your counter argument? You don’t know anything, you jump on the anti-EV bandwagon just like everyone else without knowing any of the facts. You think you know the future, but you actually know nothing about what’s coming.
@@douglasmorris8364 Not at all. I'm a huge car enthusiast and I love all cars. The only difference is I don't pretend that the future or cars isn't right around the corner
A very realistic forecast. Successive UK governments have been pouring £billions of British tax payers money into this electrification policy. Just so any readers of this know, I have 'on-street' parking only and would not be able to charge an EV other than using the mega expensive multikilowatt chargers. So by 2030 I'll be unable to own a car any longer. ("You'll own nothing and be happy" ). Unless there's a major shift in this policy by 2030, kiss goodnight to ICE private vehicles.
Repeating the same statements over and over in the hope we all agree you are right is delusional. You talk to us in a very condescending way like we are stupid, you evidence nothing you say, this all amounts to proving you haven't a clue what you are talking about. Best advice to you is to shut this channel down and stop embarrassing yourself .
I have worked for an auto manufacturer as an engineer for the last 15 years, I see the future of cars better than anyone. Unfortunately it is you that is deluded.
nobody buying evs, range is terrible and unreliable, charging is nightmare, repair is expensive, depreciation is horrendous, what are 90% people without home chargers going to do? grid will never cope with requirement, how will governments survive without petrol tax also, ev is not feasible for freight. it is not about losing petrol car it is about losing car for normal people. large car makers will disappear driving will become preserve of very wealthy only.
Not one of your points has any fact behind it. Random snippets of anti-ev headlines that you’ve pulled out of nowhere. Why do we need chargers at our houses? You wouldn’t have a petrol pump at your home, it makes no sense!
@@ThrottleJunkieYT not points. all hard facts, and there are easily another 100 against. please do some actual research or just some actual thinking. for example... your last statement eg, everyone can use forecourt or service station chargers. lolz what? millions of people sitting around for hours waiting or charging doing nothing paying exorbitant prices for electricity also bare in mind the more people use a service station the less power they each get so even more hours also dont forget rapid charging degrades batteries even faster so your also paying for even more depreciation. you are living in fantasy world?. as i said the only way 100% ev happens is if driving becomes the preserve of the ultra rich.
i will offer one concession to your fantasy. if governments would mandate standardised hot swappable battery cells that were held and charged by service stations then maybe it could work.
I agree, and disagree. For those that disagree the Chinese market of a billion people is investing in electric cars, it is just the numbers over time. For those that agree the China is not invested into petro and diesel like the west, it is just the politics over time.
Oh yeah definitely man I agree 100%. Unfortunately when the government latches onto a vision there’s very little the general public can do to stop or slow it down. It’s not even a left/ right thing, it’s a progression thing.
Evs! "Make China grate again!" The death of manufacturing industry in Europe. The loss of more good jobs and the rise of more discontent. The green agenda is the tail wagging the dog.
Living in dreamland pal, petrol and diesel vehicles will still be on the road in 20 or 30 years. They may not be new but they will be there. EV's are okay for local running about but for long distance touring, towing caravans and trailers they are not very practical. There may not be a u-turn but uptake will continue to be slow. all these changes in the uk will not stop global warming. There are too many other countries with bigger populations who will never be up there in the adoption of EV's.
I’m an engineer for a large automotive manufacturer. It’s you that is living in a “dream land” as you put it. What you and so many people need to understand is that when change comes, it comes. It doesn’t slow down for any amount of anti-EV headlines or RUclips comments.
@@ThrottleJunkieYT Only time will tell but cost is the biggest current disincentive to acquisition. I looked at a VW ID5 as a possibility because it could tow but at £61,000 it was way out of my league. If I was still working maybe but as a pensioner no chance.
People don't want second hand EV's The Netherlands already have dealers who refuse te trade in EV's in spite of the fact that the amount of chargingstations are highest in the world. The greenies are desparate as the sales plummet. Diesel en petrol are still reliable for the coming 15years whilst EV's are ready to be scrapped because no one wants them. So dream on. Politicians can never control the market.
No EV will take over in the next 5 years. Petrol and diesel euro 5 or lower will eventually be banned from cities just like in Holland.
Petrol stations will face higher and higher license fees to hold petrol but tax incentives for EV chargers so the opposite will start to occur where there far less petrol stations. Higher petrol costs eventually. Higher road tax, taxes for car dealers holding petrol second cars on their forecourt’s.
I know on some of these coming a reality as I work in public sector. I’m paying for parking at work so I presume at some point this will be passed over to the private sector.
@@cmmgray Because you work as a civil servant, you should serve the public in stead of stealing from the people who pay your salary. Your proposals on taxation are the ultimate of public dictatorship.
Busy towns with high pollution will make it very expensive for combustion cars to enter or leave.Childrens longs are more important than a piece of metal spewing poison out.
Not really true. People WANT EVs. The problem is that EVs are not really practical or cheap enough YET. But they will be. Sure, a subset of people like internal combustion engines BECAUSE they are internal combustion engines. Vroom Vroom etc :). I'm one of them at least for motorbikes, but the vast majority of people don't care and when an EV alternative arrives (and it will), they WILL buy it.
@@foppo100 "Metal spewing poison" in combination with "childrens longs" is the ideal framing of fear without any knowledge. Busy towns will be emptied and inhabitable as people are restricted and controlled in their movements. Your propaganda exceeds he former Sovjet Union.
it's bad lying to yourself but lying to others is worse
There will always be petrol and diesel cars on our roads
@@storm4743 For a few years, yes. 10-20 years time? Absolutely no chance.
...and coal-powered velocipedes, and horse-carts and palanquins and dandies in top-hats and spats.
Always.
@@ThrottleJunkieYT USA sales is only at 6.8% it's going to take a long time before we see 50 to 70% of cars been on the road replaced with EV's My bet is it will be more like 30 years before we see 50 to 70% of EV's on the road there are just way too many issues with EV's that are putting people of from buying one like Running Costs, Repair Cost, charging , Batterie's catch fire and so and so the list is too long
@davidwarren9ev are crap and will bankrupt the car makers😂😂😂😂😂😂204
I'm an automotive enthusiast, not a government enthusiast.
There might not be any Government u turn, however the EV market is unsustainable. The Big Club may want nobody on the road, but there are more plebs than Big Club members. The market will determine what survives, I don't forsee any ev mass take up. The EV was never meant to be the answer it was the means to end motoring & confine you to your 15 minute ghetto.
You’re thinking too much in the here and now. EVs are only just getting started and have many advancements coming.
@@ThrottleJunkieYTadvances in EV tech will make the older tech EVs obsolete and worthless. That's about it.
😂😂
My opinion is censored by the people who want to push these ⚡️🔌🚗 things 🙃
We don’t want them!
@@stum5639 We won’t have a choice. You either get an EV or you hop on a bus. Petrol and diesels are on borrowed time.
Incorrect
@@ThrottleJunkieYT You think that's a good thing not to have a choice in what you want to buy? Hmm!
@@ThrottleJunkieYTcommie
@@ThrottleJunkieYT you are very wrong trump will eliminate epa rules and no more ev
Where did you buy your Crystal ball, because I want one then I'll have the know-all just like you.
I don’t need one. I’m an automotive engineer for a large car manufacturer. I know what the future holds for cars, whether or not you choose to listen is your choice.
How long do you think lithium mines will last,it's finite,petrol and diesel will last for hundreds of years.😂
Coal is the future EVs are just a gloabilist fantasy.
42% of EV owners in USA have swapped back to petrol
I still struggle to work out how an electric car which is effectively written off after 8 years when the battery {who's minerals are mined half a world away through exploitation} gives up, can remotely be considered "green", when you can keep an 'ice' car on the road indefinitely.. The 'worker ants', are clearly no longer welcome on the road, because the majority of people who keep the economy ticking increasingly cannot afford the luxury of a house with a driveway to charge the car up on, or afford the damn thing in the first place.
if we don't buy them they'll have no choice. They need to get it right . Vote with your feet, people... don't buy them until EVs are decent.
Wheres all this new Electricity coming from? They"ve already had a Uturn, the Petrol Diesel sales halt has already been put back five years!
The government may have adjusted the targets, but car manufacturers haven’t changed their plans. The key word here being “adjusted” the targets, the end goal still remains the same and will be achieved.
@@ThrottleJunkieYT why don’t you tell us where the electricity is going to come from then?
@@ThrottleJunkieYT So tell us where the electricity is going to come from then? You people are as crazy as your politicians!
@@str0w4er The same place where the electricity for all these new heat pump - Out of think air! Take away any government incentives and no one would buy an EV. Only fleet car sales and mobility schemes are propping up EV sales.
@ Human beings have been engineering solutions for problems for years. This is another hurdle we have to (and will) overcome.
you are one thick bloke
You are so wrong m8 the infrastructure is unattainable for elec ,we can not produce enough electricity to charge them m8 do u ever listen to what u are saying
You have an incredible grasp on what is and isn't possible.
Science thanks you for saving them all that wasted time. Those silly actual scientists, engineers and, every car company on the planet.
Absolutely useless in cold weather I’ve got a eqa 250+ ment to do 340 miles was just about getting 250 miles now we have had 2 weeks of cold weather not even getting 130 miles would give this car back in a heartbeat if I didn’t sign a 4 year lease
Ok wise guy, you ventilated your opinion. I disagree.
Well wise guy I disagree,ev cars are crap.
EV are disposable no one wants a 10 year old EV . The Battery cost more than the Car . This Guy is wrong . Ice cars will be around a long time.
Don't give up your day job pal!
You just keep repeating yourself... wheres your evidence/argument?
Unfortunately I can’t reveal my “evidence” as it’s part of my day job as an engineer for an automotive company. I can only provide you with the information I can. Where is your evidence for your counter argument? You don’t know anything, you jump on the anti-EV bandwagon just like everyone else without knowing any of the facts. You think you know the future, but you actually know nothing about what’s coming.
Yep. Zero evidence. I am going to block this channel. This guy is delusional.
@@ThrottleJunkieYT Ah! We all see now. You're an EVangelist shill.
@@douglasmorris8364 Not at all. I'm a huge car enthusiast and I love all cars. The only difference is I don't pretend that the future or cars isn't right around the corner
A very realistic forecast. Successive UK governments have been pouring £billions of British tax payers money into this electrification policy. Just so any readers of this know, I have 'on-street' parking only and would not be able to charge an EV other than using the mega expensive multikilowatt chargers. So by 2030 I'll be unable to own a car any longer. ("You'll own nothing and be happy" ). Unless there's a major shift in this policy by 2030, kiss goodnight to ICE private vehicles.
Repeating the same statements over and over in the hope we all agree you are right is delusional. You talk to us in a very condescending way like we are stupid, you evidence nothing you say, this all amounts to proving you haven't a clue what you are talking about. Best advice to you is to shut this channel down and stop embarrassing yourself .
This w anchor is beyond deluded.
I have worked for an auto manufacturer as an engineer for the last 15 years, I see the future of cars better than anyone. Unfortunately it is you that is deluded.
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nobody buying evs, range is terrible and unreliable, charging is nightmare, repair is expensive, depreciation is horrendous, what are 90% people without home chargers going to do? grid will never cope with requirement, how will governments survive without petrol tax also, ev is not feasible for freight.
it is not about losing petrol car it is about losing car for normal people.
large car makers will disappear driving will become preserve of very wealthy only.
Not one of your points has any fact behind it. Random snippets of anti-ev headlines that you’ve pulled out of nowhere. Why do we need chargers at our houses? You wouldn’t have a petrol pump at your home, it makes no sense!
Their shite,nobody wants them😂😂😂😂
@@ThrottleJunkieYT not points. all hard facts, and there are easily another 100 against. please do some actual research or just some actual thinking. for example... your last statement eg, everyone can use forecourt or service station chargers. lolz what? millions of people sitting around for hours waiting or charging doing nothing paying exorbitant prices for electricity also bare in mind the more people use a service station the less power they each get so even more hours also dont forget rapid charging degrades batteries even faster so your also paying for even more depreciation. you are living in fantasy world?. as i said the only way 100% ev happens is if driving becomes the preserve of the ultra rich.
i will offer one concession to your fantasy. if governments would mandate standardised hot swappable battery cells that were held and charged by service stations then maybe it could work.
I agree, and disagree. For those that disagree the Chinese market of a billion people is investing in electric cars, it is just the numbers over time. For those that agree the China is not invested into petro and diesel like the west, it is just the politics over time.
Oh yeah definitely man I agree 100%. Unfortunately when the government latches onto a vision there’s very little the general public can do to stop or slow it down. It’s not even a left/ right thing, it’s a progression thing.
Evs! "Make China grate again!" The death of manufacturing industry in Europe. The loss of more good jobs and the rise of more discontent.
The green agenda is the tail wagging the dog.
Living in dreamland pal, petrol and diesel vehicles will still be on the road in 20 or 30 years. They may not be new but they will be there. EV's are okay for local running about but for long distance touring, towing caravans and trailers they are not very practical. There may not be a u-turn but uptake will continue to be slow. all these changes in the uk will not stop global warming. There are too many other countries with bigger populations who will never be up there in the adoption of EV's.
I’m an engineer for a large automotive manufacturer. It’s you that is living in a “dream land” as you put it. What you and so many people need to understand is that when change comes, it comes. It doesn’t slow down for any amount of anti-EV headlines or RUclips comments.
@@ThrottleJunkieYT Only time will tell but cost is the biggest current disincentive to acquisition. I looked at a VW ID5 as a possibility because it could tow but at £61,000 it was way out of my league. If I was still working maybe but as a pensioner no chance.
There is NO MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING,just shills saying the sky's falling down,muppets😂😂😂😂😂😂😂TRUMP BABY,DRILL,DRILL,DRILL😂😂😂😂
you have no idea ha ha ha
Have a look at a lithium mine,ev owners don't give a hoot about the horrendous child abuse in mines,totally not green or sustainable, shame on you.
Hydrogen cars are the future