Evil Morty's Plan and the Central Finite Curve Explained! Rick & Morty Season 5 Finale Breakdown!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2021
- Rick and Morty just aired its 5th season finale, an epic two parter, and it really delivered. Why is Evil Morty up to, what is the reality of the central finite curve, and do we finally have evidence that our Rick is the truest?
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Oh ok that makes sense 😂😁
Love your videos 😁☺️
Way was it taken down?
@@bluehush4320 because Turner Media can’t understand the concept of fair use!
Ok that makes sense on why I'm seeing this for a second time. Sucks that it was taken down though.
It’s not possible that he’s our Rick’s original Morty - he never had a Morty to begin with. It was clear that his Beth died as a child and thus never grew up to give birth to Morty.
Good point. Maybe he's killer Rick's original Morty, or maybe he's a Morty our Rick traveled with before he met our Morty. Or he's just some Morty who's weirdly smart.
Our Morty is smart now, too. Maybe he's too needy of Rick but he has skills that can rival the best agents in the universe that he's in.
@@breadeater1194 some one said that the green portals only go to universe where Rick is the apex the the best in everything that’s what evil morty said I. The show but the guy said maybe the yellow changed and shows a the lows of Rick showing so I think yellow is actually every multiverse even where Rick isn’t the smartest that’s what I think
True but remember the picture of a baby morty at bird persons house and Rick own scanned memories of him holding a baby morty?
Maybe it was not HIS morty, but it was the first morty he had, when he crashed into that beth's garage. That would mean arguably evil morty COULD be "our rick's morty" in a sense, albeit not the way some might have originally thought. I have come to doubt that, however, as it is clear our rick holds family to be very important after having lost his.
So ricks best invention is creating a small bubble in his multiverse where only his ego dominates, impressive
And even in that multiverse Morty still win.
Inna Infinite universe, it was bound to happen
@@meme-potentialsearch8010 The one true Morty
@@lorenzogasperoni5510 where tf he won? Morty killed a half of Ricks, destroyed barrier between multiverses and tricked and mocked down not only the main Rick but the thousands others.
@@lorenzogasperoni5510 No one could go past the CFC, not even our rick(Even if he could. Why would he? His ego likes being the smartest in the universe). That was the point of the barrier. That portal gun we see throughout the series was ONLY within the CFC. Yes, he has stated over and over you can go in every universe he wants. He lied. You can go in every universe you want where HE is the smartest and HE is the most powerful. That was the point of the CFC. Everyone within it is stuck in it including him (and to his ego's benefit). The only time Rick has probably been outside the CFC was before it's creation
With the finite curve and its purpose revealed, its funny to think back on how Rick created a universe to power his car and from it came a creature that could rival his intelligence.
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The real question nobody is asking: Will Mr.Poopybutthole manage to turn his life around by the end of season 6?
If you remember what he said , i don’t think so.
@@stompdownzor Yeah but I wasn't expecting his life to fall apart either, can always hope!
Volrag asking the real questions! And yeah, I hope he can. Rick owes him... again.
I still think that Mr.Poopybutthole is the original and smartest rick that is hidding like this from other ricks.
@@Bullminator that’s a good theory
I sincerely hope we get more of Evil Morty and they don't just drop it. He's a great tool for exploring the greater universe and is a foil to Rick. A being possibly capable of matching his intelect, but hasn't given into the same nihilism. He sees infinity as freedom, not a cage
Interesting I never thought about it like that. That is a cool idea
I think this is the last we're going to see of Evil Morty. The show has another big reveal to get through. If Rick and Morty's brainwaves cancel each other out, then they are of equal intelligence.
@@EvolvedWizard Or the exact opposite. The morty dumbness masks his. Waves are inverted to cancel each other out
@@mullerpotgieter I'm less and less convinced of Morty's dumbitude every new episode.
I think season 5 was way better than season 4
so evil Morty's plan is to live in a universe without Rick...
which makes sense after seeing how Ricks treat Mortys as disposable products.
Considering they are the smartest being in their own subreddit universe/multiverse it probably because of that, also our morty and rick are different, they probably will grow.
Majority of them are. But apparently C137 Rick and Morty are ironically the most healthy pair of that curve of multiverses.
If he seeks that universe he himself won't exist in that universe meaning his family won't be the same. Without a Rick there is no Beth and therefore no morty. Unless he is given a different family and turns out like a normal child.
Perhaps only a universe without rick, is the only universe that Rick isn't the smartest.
@@gomezalejandrog Well, shouldn't be the case, infinite universes, right?
Including ones where there is just a bigger fish then Rick. Nothing else distinguishing them from the CFC
It was to reverse Morty's age. NOT get more portal fluid. They just topped it off while they were there.
Right what an idiot how would why would they need portal fluid when he can make it
@@slackergod8464 I'm just tired of people making theory and speculative videos like this without bothering to listen to the details.
"WhY COulD a FIghTEr bLoW uP thE DeAthStar!?" *Ignores how they intended it to fight large fleets not small fighters* "WhY WoUld ThEY JuSt LEave a HoLE iN tHe bIG StaTIOn!?" *Ignores "the exhaust port is RAY SHIELDED" and the fact everyone says that's almost impossible.*
Like, why are you putting out a theory when you've flat out ignored variables that were explained to you?
From what I remember, Morty refilled the portal gun when he got aged up.
@@robred123s "They just topped it off while there were there." That's what I said. XD
@@shocker1209081 I was just clarifying that Morty did it when he was by himself, before Rick came back. He topped it off when he went to get the stuff to age himself up.
Showing Diane and young Beth dying clears up so much on Rick's attachment issues.
The Beth, Morty, and others we meet at the series start aren't "his" - so when things go sideways in the Love Potion episode, Rick just shifts realities and leaves Beth, Summer, and Jerry behind. In his mind, it didn't matter - they weren't "his" anyway, so he wasn't attached.
The series shows him slowing developing the attachments - the family he stepped into becoming "his" family.
Not shown/stated, but it is possible that the family he "returns" to was the family of one of the Ricks he assassinated.
They actually dropped in the previous episode that Beth died, when the memory Rick makes a comment about "living with a copy of your dead daughter" - it was almost a throwaway line, as Rick didn't really acknowledge it.
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Whoa I like that theory. IMO the Smiths we meet are relatives of the Rick who killed C137’s family.
@@plusplusgive That would be a fairly clever plan on his part - settle in with that family, and just wait for the Rick that killed his family to show himself… I like it
Evil morty was the very first morty clone ever made, slowly discovered the truth and ended up being evil morty, maybe he was the one who killed ricks wife and daughter.
@@jacquelinesnedegar1391 - except that doesn't fit the timeline.
"Evil" Morty says that it was the Citadel that became a Morty Market - breeding, cloning, etc.
There was no Citadel until C-137 made peace with the other Ricks... which was well after Beth and Diane were killed. So if he's an evil clone, his creation would've been after the fact.
also, "Evil" Morty wouldn't have had as many reasons to be evil until C-137 got portal tech - which he didn't until after Beth/Diane. There would've been no reason for a Morty to go after a Rick that didn't even want portal tech.
It’s like when I dream about my dog that died. The dreams often have a dog that’s not him, it has a different name, it looks identical to him, but I never even try to spend time with it because I know it’s not really the original one. I don’t even like the new one, I didn’t want a new one, I want the one I used to have or nothing at all.
i really hope that the central finite curve is completely destroyed after this episode and not just escaped by evil morty, and that outside of it comes along some villains that can really challenge rick
THANK YOU for pointing out that the writers "never really wanted" to go down the the "Evil Morty" story thread. This is one of the (many) things that ultimately soured this finale for me. The way Dan Harmon and company _insisted_ on REPEATEDLY hammering down their annoyance in this episode. It got to the point where it wasn't just a clever meta nod...it was excessive and obnoxious. We _get_ it, already. They wanted to make ABSOLUTELY SURE that we the viewers understood just _how much_ they despised doing this, how they were just "getting this annoying plot thread" out of the way so that they could go back to writing their preferred one off episodes.
...which SUCKS because by and large it's the episodes that involve the long, continuous plots that span across the seasons (as well as ANYTHING to do directly with Rick's past) that tend to be SO much _BETTER_ than the random, "wacky" one offs. ... especially the stuff they've put out this season which feels more like something we'd see on _Family Guy_ than the previously clever/witty writing we used to get in earlier seasons. One off, self-contained adventures wouldn't be so bad if the writers were actually putting out quality stuff. Instead, we get episodes about underground chud horses, sperm queens, and incest babies. We get episodes with Rick and company acting completely out of character and doing things they normally would not do "just because" the writers NEED it to happen to make the episode. I "get" that most of the "good" writers jumped ship for greener pastures, but these "new" writers have shown that they have no real understanding of the characters beyond a superficial "let's do random stuff that looks cool."
5 Months after the fact, but this is exactly how I feel about the one-offs now vs. the ones in earlier seasons. I just got done rewatching the whole series beginning to end, which led me to explainer videos for the season finale of season 5.
There's so many holes in the overlaying plot, and other facts we learn in earlier seasons, in season 4 and 5's one off episodes that are either lazy writing or something we as viewers don't have any information on. The only other thing that makes sense to me is the theory that one off episodes don't follow "our" Rick and Morty, but rather another random Rick and Morty. However I'm not taking lazy writing off the table.
If you look at how a certain creator of "Community" writes, you'll see that this type of writing is his bread and butter. There can be a lot more done to expand on WHY c137 couldn't find the one that killed his family and why he didn't want to meet others that could be smarter than him that could even help him track the awful one down.
This writing makes it seem like he spent 50 years doing nothing to find his target unless he did it by himself with no one's help. If he spent the majority of his life for this, you'd think he'd actually do anything versus that lame ass give-up flashback because he HAS to be the "smartest" instead. The dedication doesn't match the actions at ALL. People who have that much drive go to much greater lengths. The time progression proves that. Also, if he just cared enough about time travel, he could've gone back in time to find the original Rick that fucked him over. Like why wouldn't he want the LITERAL easy way to solve his issue?? Make it make sense Harmon.
I honestly wish I didn't enjoy the concept of this family trauma mixed with manipulating philosophy concepts through mental illness. With this last season having wayyy too many uncomfortable incestuously DETAILED scenes throughout(especially the kids' orgy with their granddad and animals like wtf who wants to watch that. It's not creative or different. It's just fucking nasty. Also it puts his sexual orientation being ambiguous to comparing it to beastiality. They really did not think these one-off "edgy" jokes through.), they might just finally get the rest of us to back off so they can make the trash they so love to eat up and manufacture. I don't give much hope to someone who sexually harassed his employee though. Call me a cynic. Or the "Rickest Rick" I guess.
@@Lamboulay cause they didn’t wanna add time travel much at all
Very self centered of you, they wanted people to enjoy the mystery of the story and the whole point of it being utterly pointless and random, and the fact that infinite possibilities made everyones speculation correct. The fandom demanding and demanding and even threatening them for a resolution has crystalized it so no more speculation, thats whats obnoxious and crazy, they even gave us a fairly nice ending in the train episode of what could have been. They are irritated by the fandom because they can't understand that sometimes a mystery is a driving force and when a solution is given it can ruin the momentum and rep of a character.
Ask yourself did finding out Darth Vader was a petty selfish child murdering Emo enhance the Character or reduce him.
Now we don't have 'evil morty' to speculate on because they resolved him. Now what. How long before you start saying "aw its not the same anymore" or "aw they jumped the shark and now its just silly" because the fans demanded elaboration. Won't be long I guarantee it.
Fucking Children.
Swear to God I thought I was just being "nitpicky"/paranoid when I started believing the quality dropped, and that they actually didn't give a rat's hairy ass about the arc itself.
Most of the fans I've talked about it with eventually either accused me of being one or the OTHER once I explained what I meant, and it's crazy awesome to see somebody ELSE getting IT.
This made me realize something. Did the Rick who killed our Rick’s wife and daughter get upset because Rick was “different”? Or because he was threatening the infinite curve? As he said, the infinite curve was created to ensure Rick would be the smartest person in the universe, so if a Rick decided to deny the pursuit of being the smartest, that then would break the cycle as it were.
that wasn't even made yet
Ya the curve wasn't made until after that
Nah there’s a dumb Rick. Maybe two if the one that became friends with jerry isn’t the one in the morty school
As others have said plus its finite not infinite aka the earths are probably in the thousands but it has a number of earths and doesn’t go on and on forever
@@cosmicgrub360 um it is infinite he said like 3 times it was infinite there's a infinite amount of worlda were Rick is the smartest
Every time rick said we can only do this a few times Morty, when switching universes, makes more sense if the amount of universes are finite. Since there are infinite universes out there, the finite curve is just the loop off all Rick centered universes collected together. So u can see the logic tracks back to season one even.
No i think what he means there is that of all the infinite universes there are there are only a few in which everything in it is exactly the same so for a rough simple example everything from the beginning of time happening exactly the same as it did in their original universe so that obsolutely nothing is different
@@danny1229c i don't know... if there are infinite universes, shouldn't there also be infinite ones in which everything is basically the same as their original one?
He was lying when he said that bro stop taking it as so deep😂
@@sara-vf5xz it does, this guy is just milking it. Rick lied because he’s lazy so he told morty that they can only do it a certain amount of times
@@ayumulaikam5885 yeah its a get out of jail free card to explain why they dont just do that any time theres an issue
I still think Evil Morty has more to give. I really want to know what pushed this Morty over the edge where he just stopped forgiving Rick
I'm hoping a backstory episode, or him facing off Rick's killer.
That'd make a good of end of the episode twist: Surprise, thats the "evil" one!
I think it’s just the damage that rick’s do that bothers him, as they treat mortys like cattle and use them for their own selfish needs.
And I don't want Evil Morty to win. Besides there's still the mystery of where Evil Morty went.
maybe he had a rick that was good to him, but the other ricks killed him
Upon watching this, I instantly thought "Evil" Morty was wrong - the finite curve isn't a self-aggrandising safe-space containing only the universes where Rick is the smartest man in the universe, but a prison for all the Ricks that made the choice to abandon Beth and her mother in exchange for the "power" of being the smartest man in the universe.
It's a PRISON, not a structure of Ricks being the dominant force - the only way out was literally to use the death of millions of Ricks to create the escape mechanism, and this was all built into the Citadel by C137 from the very beginning - basically stopping them from escaping and getting anywhere near the Ricks that chose Beth and her mother and the rest of the multiverse in general - preventing any reoccurrence of Rick's tradgedy. I think "evil Morty" will discover this when he arrives to a bunch of universes filled with happily married Rick's with healthy relationships with his daughter, protected from the toxic Ricks that caused his world to crumble before his very eyes. He might even find that they were all visited by C137 in the past and warned or something to that effect.
And, of course, story wise it opens the door to powerful entities too. 50 episodes to go and all.
I'd love to see them encounter a bunch of these finite curves - as the multiverse theory used in R&M says there are infinite constantly dividing universes - creating a sort of paradox where the citadel realities should have also split infinitely, and the idea of "C137" makes no sense in the first place as there should be infinite "C137"s based on the constant infinite splitting of universes - I think within the "Central Finite Curve" our Rick found a way to stop the continuous generating of infinite outcomes and created a subdivision of reality where the dimensions are static - hence Rick's limited opportunities to start over.
Rick remaining in this prison of his own creation would also play into his depression - he's kinda the warden, but also a prisoner himself, probably feeling responsible for the outcome as it was "him" that killed his wife and daughter.
It would also mean that he wouldn't have to hunt down and kill infinite versions of the one who killed his wife, where every time he kills the one responsible it probably results in a secondary outcome where he lost and he has to do it all over again - I think some of the murder montage hinted at his realisation of this as it happened.
I definitely see a future storyline where Beth does something similar to what Rick did - maybe not in a Jerry universe, but discovering a proper "C137" style Beth with her own "Finite Curve" prison for Beths who chose power over family would be an amazing story beat, with Rick actually having the chance to be a real father after all this time.
Let me know what you think - or whether I'm late and this is already the prevailing theory.
Niiiice
It’s a prison for both Ricks and Mortys.
bropeople keep pushing into the "The smartest being in the universe" thing like it can happen to everyone, but infinite possibilities can only take you so far
We see a Rick who chose Beth and Diane. He got kidnapped and essentially placed in a coma.
A rick doesn’t need interdimisomal travel to be the smartest in a universe.
@@servoaugusta513 actually, that kinda helps my point - out of all the infinite universes, only that one exists where he chose them? And it was one where he was kidnapped and never got to enjoy his time with them, potentially before Rick's rampage?
The people writing this show are incredibly bright, or have incredibly bright people helping - but somehow the multiverse didn't make sense, if this was planned, then I will get on my knees and bow - but if not then it's still a great opportunity to fix how the multiverse works. The fact they called it the finite curve since the beginning makes me think it was planned, however vaguely, or was at least a throwaway term to hand wave away all the things wrong with multiverse travel.
I'm cautiously optimistic going forward. When they brought in all the new writers they nearly lost the soul of the show, it looks like they may be getting a little of that back...
2 things.
1. I think in the end of Season 5 the finite curve is already gone for good. Thus making the Rick C-137 more vulnerable to be attacked by individuals smarter than him which can lead to great stories the writers can explore.
2. We understand despite Rick C-137 awful obsessive behavior, he is the rick that cares most for a Morty. Cuz he never really had a Morty to begin with. He goes out of his way to protect the Smith family as episodes goes by. He seems to be more attached to them and treat them as his real family.
The existence of Morty is truly a sad and horrifying one. Literally a farm animal created for the benefit of Ricks and breed in such a way that they can never turn on their creators nor ever escape them or their never ending abuse and terror that they force on these poor, pathetic human beings on a constant basis that Morty ultimately yearns for. An endless, toxic relationship that not even death can save Morty from. Makes you wonder who has it worse in this series... Morty or Jerry.
ricks whole family including himself
Sounds like farming
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This is absolutely not the end of the larger lore-driven episodes, and it wasn't written "for the fans." People often assume the show believes what Rick believes. His nihilism and his omniscience (within his finite curve, at least) combine to form the opinion that his own back story and lore are as stupid and meaningless as all other attempts at finding meaning in the universe.
But this is actually his denial, his refusal to look at himself, which is a pretty standard habit of alcoholics. In fact, the whole finite curve is basically a metaphor for the ego inflation and nihilism that comes from addiction. People who don't listen to anyone always assume they're the smartest person in the universe. And people who don't want to see how they're ruining their lives will deny that any action has any meaning.
The show writers know this. That's why they have Rick drop these smug little comments about how stupid back stories are, and how meaningless it is to look at the world from a broader perspective than just one goofy episode at a time. addicts wants their lives to be string of cyclical one-and-done episodes, so they don't have to look at the wider pattern, so they don't have to change. Rick's dismissal of his own show's meta-arc is the metaphor for his fear of looking at himself and admitting he has to change. The show-runners know this. That's the biggest meta-gag in the show.
Nice
The writer is a chronic alcoholic so this is probably the likeliest interpretation
@@kwasont4268 I don't really know anything about that. But the show does have the feel of a long, circuitous, half-baked confession, kind of like an alcoholic begrudgingly admitting they're alcoholic.
That's the impression I get from pretty much all of these "insufferable genius" type characters. Every Sherlock Holmes reboot since House has the same routine. The genius is a human dumpster fire, but because they're so brilliant, it's all forgivable, no matter how bad it gets. And incidentally, they're addicted to something or other. After a while, I started seeing the "genius" part of all these characters as the grandiose fantasy of being always right. That's how addicts avoid admitting they have a problem.
I think the writers are nothing more than alcoholic narc pervert who are like 95% of population living in their animalistic state their whole dramatic life evolving around the same things as the lifes of pigs - satisfy bodily needs sleep, eating, reproduction and getting entangled in their own godless head trying to numb it with drugs 😴
@@marcop8875 I couldn't agree more. And what are you trying to numb it with?
He can't just "hop into the curve whenever he wants to" because aside from leaving the C.F.C his other goal was to destroy it. To break down the wall. The Citadel kept the C.F.C stable, by destroying the Citadel he destroyed the C.F.C in the process
Perhaps the most disturbing thing is that evil Morty specifically waited for the Rick’s and Morty’s to transfer into their clone bodies. He could’ve just ground the clones up, but no, he wanted them to suffer.
Pretty sure Rick directly mentioned knowing Evil Morty. "There's only one person who's [done that] before. Evil you."
He said that he was only just then realizing that it was evil Morty. He hadn't known an evil Morty was controlling the evil Rick who first scanned his brain.
I don't think so because his exact words were "There's only one person who's ever hacked my portal gun before and it turns out it was evil you" which implies that no-one has ever managed to do it before evil morty.
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It also implies that Evil Morty has done it before.
@@mattiekarwin3667 He framed him in the episode he was introduced in, and rick just realized then that it was him since he did it before and likely just assumed it was the rick (who he saw be killed, meaning that since his portal gun was hacked again he likely realized that it was the morty behind it since he survived).
Here's a question. Did we ever see the bodies of Rick's wife and daughter? I'm sure the implication could be that they were vaporized, but you can never be too sure with this show.
They were caught in an explosion that even injured Rick (it shows that it was an explosion rather than some sort of vaporizing weapon). So it is safe to say that they are dead.
This was definitely a amazing two parts for the finale, but I hope that this isn't the last high point of the series. I hope that we still get amazing and fun episodes in the future.
They went to the citadel to get morty turned back into a teenager again, not to refill the portal gun. It just happened that morty also refilled the portal gun when he went there to get the age advancing serum he said he took, to lure rick back, or whatever he called it.
I know! I raced down here to say the same thing, and was curious about hiw many others noticed. SMH.
@@michaelmccoy1794 its not a big deal, but yeah, they didnt go there to refill the portal gun.
I want to see more outside of the finite curve
I don't think the writers were dragging their feet on this one. I think these are the hardest episodes to write by far. Shout out to staff writer Siobhan Thompson.
I remember they said several times that they don't really want to make this show a plot wise one. Like i bet they started to hint Rick's past in the first season just for fun to tease fans (who always want to see a bigger picture even when there isn't one). Eventually this got out of hand and the creators got pissed cause of the fans constantly asking them about "The lore". It's pretty obvious the creators didn't want it to get this big if you pay attention, they teased fans more in the last seasons when Rick refused to do some stuff because it's related to story and "canon" as he calls it. And the fact they literally just showed his whole backstory in 2 minutes speaks for itself. It's kinda sad, cause the plot is actually really good, but pretty obvious Roiland and Harmon didn't wnat it to become the main thing of the show. As they said they wanted to keep it more simple as it was in earlier season without the main plot
@@idontreallylikelongnames that's all just Dan and his affinity for writing his "crack rock" style of television as he calls it. Think about how little we saw any kind of lore or serialization in community.
Had no clue Siobhan wrote for Rick and Morty.
I hope that Evil Morty is continued as a recurring antagonist. I know the show runners want to avoid serializing it, but at least one running thread lends weight to the story.
or this Evil Morty will be butt f*ucked by Jerry, the REAL smartest man in all infinite multi universes,
then this poor morty will be killed for a stupid reason in E01 S06
I like it serialized. IDK why so many people want it to be episodic.
I don't think the CFC was made to separate the universes where Rick is the smartest being from the universes where he isn't.
It was actually made to separate the universes where Rick is good (relatively) from the universes where Rick is truly evil.
This is a good one ☝️ 🔥
So the central finite curve is basically the reason we never see a universe where Beth or Summer are the smartest beings in the multiverse then? Fascinating
It was wierd seeing Rick scared of evil morty like he dead ass had to retreat
Yup
outside that finite curve, there might also be a chance that there's a Jerry out there who's smarter than our rouge rick.
Evil morty is one of my favorite story lines because of how much he can add to the show
It seemed like the reason Evil Morty blended up everyone was to get their DNA or whatever allows you to see what dimension they are from. It all got fed into the machine that made the gateway thing the ship went through that allowed Morty to escape the finite curve.
I just realized, the last thing that Rick probably did for his Beth in his original universe, was to create Froopy Land.
He wasn't exploring for "fun" he was on a quest to find the killer. He was methodical.
Evil Morty can't be his grandson because his daughter died.
and yet I'd still wonder what was the portal that Evil Morty hopped into being lead into another Multiverse of Morty's being Smarter then Ricks
There are some implications of there being MANY people smarter than Rick that the ricks have just walled themselves off from.
Mainly that there are most likely smarter people than even them and THEY probably walled themselves off too. Maybe in all of the infinite universes the smartest version of every single individual has all walled off the universes where they are not smartest.
Maybe there is a Jerry finite curve, a birdperson finite curve, a random background character finite curve or someone we have never met finite curve, where, there specifically, they are the smartest in their realms.
If this is true then, in a way, being the smartest person in the multiverse means _nothing_
Evil morty could also be one of the very very first Mortys that have been cloned from Morty-prime
when that tech was still at its infancy, making that Morty less forgiving than the Original ones.
Glad the evil morty plot was finally revealed and now we have confirmation
The best episode of Rick and Morty ever
Tales From the Citadel still is better, imho. Let the emotions settle down a bit
@@denissmith7671 ricklantis mixup is up there to
@@lxfj2128 rixlantis mixup and tales from the citadel are the same episode, just with 2 different name lol
What if he went to a Universe where Morty is the smartest person in the universe? What if Evil Morty becomes a Rick, by creating a new Finite Curve where Morty's rule. And so Evil Morty ends up commanding an army of second grade Ricks.
I'd say he'd choose normal life. After the bs in the cfc has put on evil morty making him go on "wacky" adventures, I'd just go find a home and sit a comfy chair for as long as possible, because fuk dat.
@@larrytherustyboii7442 But also consider that the reason Rick Separated himself is because there were beings smarter and more powerful than even him. I doubt Evil Morty will find the solace he's looking for or the rest. I think he may even find something worse.
@@ShiniRyuga I cant really think of anything that could rattle evil morty or even bother to give him trouble since evil morty can find a way to avoid conflict. But the one thing. The one thing I'm certain that could actually take away evil morty's peace is rick himself, but all the tick are practically dead right? Who could give evil morty hell? Rick c-137's killer. I feel like hed be a perfect antagonist to evil morty. Out of all the infinite universes, there was one alternate rick and morty that has ever establish themselves as actual character and it's Rick's killer and evil morty. Those two interacting would be a very interesting episode.
@@larrytherustyboii7442 Evil Morty is too smart for that. He'd get so bored so fast. He'd need something to stimulate him, and exploring a universe or several where Rick can't be found, is bliss.
@@Windrake101 and how would you know that? We barely know evil Morty's character, at best we only know hes smart and his goals and that's about it. If we do see him the show will definitely subvert from any crazy theory about him.
I wouldn't be surprised if Evil Morty gets a rude awakening, he is going into the most dangerous parts of the multiverse and he doesn't necessarily know the danger is in these universes
yeah. maybe some other dudes made a finite curve
This is true, it may just be a temporary measure. On the other hand, isn’t everything?
I expect at least some of next season to deal with "evil Morty", and finally confirm he's the original one we see in the opening credits about to be eaten by critters after Rick dumps him. He survived, but lost an eye.
with a hole in the curve that could produce some problems
things smarter then rick will notice it, but im wondering if other groups of smarter men noticed the wall around the centrafinite curve and did that themselves meaning evil morty may have just broken into the next layer, and whats to say there is a layer below them that did the same to their curve and so on
Not a hole, it's gone. The multiverse will no longer contain only realities where Rick is the smartest being. And almost all of the Rick's from realities where Rick is the smartest being alive had already been killed. So there may be very few god-like Rick's left, and the new multiverse will probably contain beings much smarter than Rick (plus a whole lot of Rick's who aren't so smart at all).
Anybody think it strange that Morty said only "whoa... dead wife?" but no mention of the daughter who would be his own mom? Or any realization that the 'dead wife' would be his own grandma? Or are the Morty Waves truly that daft, that he wouldn't be curious as to *how he could exist as our Rick's grandson?*
Beth survived? No the explosion was bad. Maybe Rick just found a random family.
Not the biggest fan of this show anymore but I hopped back in for this episode, honestly it was nice too get too see evil Morty get a conclusion and I kinda hope that's what it was, it was a very nice ending for him.
Also his portal is yellow and that's my favorite color.
The season 5 finale was incredible
Ngl after episode 9, I was hype for an entire season of morty finding himself and Rick living with crows. I'm happy we got what we got but crow rick would just be such an interesting direction for the show to take
You mean ‘Rick and Two Crows’?
Nah the crow bit went on too long as it is...
So if the finite curve is all the demintions were rick is the smartest person in the universe, dose that mean there is a demintion were doofus rick is the smartest person in the universe?
Woah.
I mean...Doofus Rick is really smart, he did make ovenless brownies forexample.
He just applies his intelligence in a different way.
@@jakobinobles3263 there are dumb ricks tho, like slow rick; but Doofus rick def isn’t dumb, he fr is smarter than every human that’s ever lived in real life.
The finale was great, I loved Evil Morty’s character arc, it’s a shame that this will probably be the last we’ll see of him
This ending has me thinking that evil Morty is free of all Rick's. To call him evil is a matter of perspective. From a Rick's perspective he is clearly an extremely clever and ruthless Morty, if not the smartest, but his intention is merely to be free of the Ricks and live in peace and not really to challenge them. But from a Morty's perspective, he sacrificed untold versions of himself to achieve his own selfish goal instead of helping all the Mortys. They are at heart different people so what the Rickitist Rick and the Mortyist Morty have in common is their own ruthless pursuit of their own narcissistic desires.
He literally blended hundreds of rick and morty clones?
I have some interesting thoughts adding to the whole Evil Morty thing:
In the episode where we see Rick C-137 trying to kill himself and while he is preparing to do so, he drinks what looks like a yellow liquid that could somehow be related to Evil Morty's teleportation fluid since both the color's are same. Also i should mention that in the final 5th season episode, Evil Morty asks Rick C-137 why he couldn't just kill himself instead of doing what he did to everything (you know creating the central finite curve and etc.). Its a possible hint that he will kill himself at some point after he finds the Rick who killed his wife and daugther.
yeah that morty is definitely the mortyest morty.
rickest* morty
Me before the finale: Well Rick and Morty is still a good show but way past it's prime!
Me after the finale:
Rick and Morty is still on top!
I think it's pretty clear we're moving to full serialisation, at least for Season 6. We're far from done with lore episodes.
Rick and evil morty for sure have history because he said “ I know only one man who can hack my portal gun
thats because in the episode evil-morty was introduced, the council of rick checked C-137s portal gun history, which showed the places the rick murders of that episode took place even though C-137 didnt do it so evil-morty hacked C-137s gun for that
I know it isn't the main thing for the show. But the episodes that keep things from being purely episodic are my favorite episodes. I love seeing characters grow and change, even in shows that try to keep themselves from being too serious. Even if this kind of thing stays on the back burner- it helps keep me invested in it.
They didn’t go to the citadel for portal fluid. They went to the citadel so they could fix Morty because his body was stuck as a 40-year-old. While they were there the Morty president invited them to lunch. I don’t know what this guy is talking about! It’s never said but I’m almost positive Rick can just make more portal fluid himself if he has the ingredients on hand.
Plot twist: Evil Morty grows to become just like Rick (or even Rick himself) in another section of the multiverse, eventually creating another central finite curve.
Only two things that I can say are,
"Evil morty" will most likely play a part and continue down the line. In an interview Justin roiland even stated that they wanted things like evil morty to be fully fleshed out before continuing hid story, since they really liked him as a character and want to do him justice (not exact words).
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Wait, if the central finite curve is the universes where Rick is the smartest in that universe, how did doofus Rick exist in the curve?
A universe of idiots
Bad writting
You guys know doofus Rick isn't an idiot right?? He's just as smart as the other ones he just looks different. And he's more empathetic.
@@khanqueeftador2786 Exactly, they're not true Rick and Morty fans so they can't pick that up.
you know in the comics, doofus rick invent portal fluid all by himself, so that makes him one of the only 3 ricks(rick prime and c-137) that actually invented portal travel without any help.
Question, are all the Ricks and Mortys in the Citadel really dead? Their Opperation Phoenix machines may have been rerouted but knowing our Rick who died so many times went into in different versions of himself like Wasp Rick and Bear Rick for an example. Where did they all go then and will they rebuild the Citadel again?
it wasn't about killing them permanently but needing them to fuel his escape from the curve
I see
It seems to me that serialization is needed to bring the size of fan bases to series-renewal levels, but I really don't care that much for where the show is heading as long as it continues to allow nice sci-fi "episodic" stories. To me serialization is useful just as a tool for providing more rich plots through characters' development.
Our rick is smarter than other ricks but had a flaw: he truly loves morty unlike the others
I liked the anit-hero vibe of "Evil" Morty. It was a nice change of perspective.
Grateful for this explainer
Yellow portals are portals outside of the central finite curve. Green portals are green because they're locked in the central finite curve
How can a central FINITE curve be infinite?
Let’s say 10% of all universes are universes where Rick is the smartest. These 10% are in the central finite curve. Because there are an infinite number of universes, 10% of infinity is still infinity
@@Greenmoney22 im aware but the citadel is a finite space you cannot hold an infinite percent of ricks in one space
I think Evil Morty is wrong about the central finite curve. It's not the universes where Rick is the smartest person in the universe. Assuming every universe we've seen in the show is part of this curve, the existence of Doofus Rick, Simple Rick and "tall Morty" disprove this hypothesis. It's not like Rick is shy about killing other Ricks for little to no reason, so why should any of them be permitted to exist by the citadel of Ricks?
It's not even a testament to Ricks ego. I think it's his own purgatory. If we assume that every universe in the central finite curve must have a Rick, there is another consistent requirement to all the universes we've seen: Diane must be dead. In the dozens, if not hundreds of iterations of the family we've seen, we've not once seen a living Diane. That would defy probability.
But why would this be chosen as a requirement? Because Rick can't forgive himself, for either getting his family killed or for abandoning them. Therefore, he walls himself into a pocket of reality where every Rick he meets is as indefensible as he is. This is why he has no hesitation killing other Ricks, but this is also why he's so nihilistic. He has walled himself off from every possibility where he has avoided this problem or actually moved past it. He's decided that his penance is to be locked into some kind of perpetual battle royale with every version of himself he can find that screwed up as badly as he did.
Doofus Rick could still be the smartest being in his universe ... :p
@@britainbetterthanyou That would explain the coprophagia but god damn that must be a bad universe.
@@britainbetterthanyou i mean actual instant brownies is pretty much the best invention ever
@@volrag He's not dumb he's just looks different and more empathetic which is why he gets along with Jerry
Simple Rick could still be the smartest in his reality.
As for "tall Morty", a theory is that tall Morty is the Rick that got fooled by the Devil and lost his intelligence. That wouldn't kick his reality off the curve, it was a reality where Rick was the smartest.
this really helped ty
i have watched the finale so many times now, always gives me goosebumps
I think Evil Monty WANTED our Rick and Morty to escape the Citadel, for whatever reason…because why didn’t he just kill them so they wouldn’t come after him?
7:16 literally impossible to be the case cause our ricks beth died as a child
so turns out the rick we follow didn't just crash at a random beth's house. it is the house of the prime rick that killed his wife and daughter, hoping that rick would come back to earth one day.
It's a show about literally LIMITLESS possibilities and yet they found a way to make infinity even bigger!
Rick and Morty theory
The “Rick” that killed Rick 137s family was either the father of Beth from Earth- Cronenberg or the Rick that died in the lab explosion in the replacement Earth that Rick 137 and Morty escaped to.
“What about Rick 137s memories of baby Morty?”
Rick 137 could have easily had access to various Ricks memories of their Morty’s or if the Rick who killed C137s family is Cronenberg’s Beth father- then it’s a possibility C137 might have killed that Rick before taking his place and reuniting with Cronenberg Beth.
Of course he has memories of baby Morty. We just don't know which baby Morty due to the Morty's Mind Blowers episode.
Now I want to see what's outside of the finite curve. Will we see some genius from that part of the multiverse infiltrate Rick's part? I imagine one of the few ways for that to be fulfilling is if Rick was fully destroyed / defeated by this superior foe.
Be funny and ironic if it's jerry
it is astonishing how much information the episode clearly laid out for us and how much of it you either completely lied about or somehow fell asleep as it was explained
Thanks for the summary
Now will Beth meet the actual Rick who abandoned her? Will Rick kill the one who killed his Beth? Are the respective Ricks one and the same?
What if the finite curve was developed as a way to keep the Ricks that kill other Ricks' families out?
Yea and evil Morty "found a way out" 🙄
I'm sure the rickest Rick would've seen that coming
@@chrism8180 Oh he did, that's why our Rick did nothing to stop Evil Morty. At some point, the walls gotta come down, and even he knew that it was an eventuality that it would collapse.
So Rick was able to create a barrier in the multivariate that isolates world's where he is the Supreme and keeps other geniuses from entering them. The man basically controlled time and space.
Kang the conqueror
@@JohnGrandline same method but he who remains didn't really care about him being on top, the loom and the sacred timeline was his answer to stopping his variants from taking control of the multivers
"Evil Morty" is the Morty that we always see in the intro that Rick leaves behind. He survived the monsters
The whole thing is just a demonstration of the cycle of abusive relationships. The abuser find new people to abuse and the abused rarely break out of that cycle i.e."the finite curve."
Our Rick doesn't have a Morty cuz Beth could never give birth to him since she died as a kid so there is no Morty-est Morty sadly
very good video thumbs up!
what if the evil Mort is the one with the Rick that killed Rick's wife and Beth C-137 ?
Why is there already a crack around Beth n Jerry's House when Rick crashes into the garage? Didnt that happen when Rick had a party?
the crash happened in the universe where the kronenberg accident happened in season 1, pretty sure the party happened after they switched to a new dimension
@@corberus3119 Yeah so it wouldn't make sense for there to be a crack. Would it?
If doofus Rick is supposed to be the smartest in his universe and doofus Jerry screwed with the citadel and our Rick so much, could he be the smartest Rick in the series?
Lore driven episodes are why it's so good.
Can't wait to see what happens!!!
Is this the end of the series or just of the season?
This certainly blew my mind. The legion of ricks that already existed before C137 Rick ended up creating the best of all Ricks (C137 Rick). That same legion also ended up creating their own Morty with the mindset of a Rick.
C137 Morty may have been literally bred to be forgiving, but is now one who is even closer to understanding his own Rick. Our Morty is definitely a natural born Morty, while the ones on the citadel are most likely clones, especially since they have their own PHOENIX program.
Side note: I know that our Rick isn’t apart the C137 dimension, but that’s who he identifies himself to be now with his Morty.
c-137*
Imagine being so out of touch you get the dimension wrong, smh :D
Can't be our Rick's Morty as people have said, but the terrifying thing is that he came from within the curve, which means that there is another Rick who is smarter than this Morty.
Breaking the curve also means that we are open to universes where there is something smarter than Rick. Presumably the wall was also keeping some things out!
7:20 137 rick can't have his own morty, because beth was killed a long time ago...
Here's my theory.
Our Rick wanted to get revenge from the Rick who killed his family, but he failed as the last Rick destroyed the map. So he gets desperate and goes on a killing spree killing all genius Ricks.
So our Rick wasn't just exploring for fun he was after revenge and when he couldn't get that he wanted to make sure what happened to him would never happen again to any other Rick to who made the same choice as he did. What choice you ask. Our Rick chose family over science and he passed on the gift of interdementional travel just so he can be a family man and there's a possibility that other ricks in the multiverse made the same choice.
The formula is simple . If a Rick choses family he he'll be a normal man but if choses science he abandons his family and becomes the most dominant creature in his universe. so our Rick wanted to separate the science ricks from the family ricks so that the family ricks wouldn't have to face his fate and would live happily ever after. Thus, he created the center finite curve
Keep in mind that our Rick hates the science Ricks because he never chose science but was forced into it because of revenge that's why he hates the Citadel. And that's why he created it. He just wanted family Ricks to live
I have a feeling like every morty, evil morty didn't really think this though. I mean his plan was to break the cycle of rick and manage to do it. So what is he going do now. He basically left his family, he have no one to turn to, and he's alone in a world that he has no idea how to handle. Evil morty is smart but his plan is pretty stupid.
Infinite is infinite, if he wanted to he could find a reality where Morty is about to die, take his place and then date Jessica or something.
A cocky morty can lead to some real serious problems...
i find it weird that rick crash into a house with crack driveway not the perfect driveway
So Rick really is just like Kang in the Loki show?