I currently have 4 fosgate 12 inch P3’s in a Toyota 4 runner, and have them on 2 kicker 1200 watt amps and am pushing 600 to each sub. I have to say, I am very impressed by the sound quality, and power of the sub compared to others. Thank you for making an awesome product
i have installed fosgate speakers and a fosgate 1200 watt amp and bass in my 2011 ford expedition. i am now deaf. wokeup the nieghbours 2 miles away thought i was having a live rock concert.wow! for less than 1500 dollars it is one hell of a system hearing aides should be here tomorrow
you guys are truly the most innovative, imaginative, inventive, or whatever word you can use to describe how insanely knowledgeable this company is and how wildly diligent you guys are when it comes to making sure that every speaker has the highest level of quality, design, details, and engineering so that they perform the absolute best that they possibly can. Rockford Fosgate is by far the most influential car audio and sound company of all time, in my most humble opinion! by far the most technologically advanced, experienced, and highest levels of expertise in the field of audio technology and engineering. you guys have always been the leading force behind manufacturing audio and sound systems. thank you guys for helping so much to greatly establish the audio and sound industry and making sure that the quality is at the highest of standards!
This is soooo cool ! I went through the RTTI program in 1988 ! Damn I'm old, glad to see Rockford Fosgate is still going strong. I had 12 Punch 15's in the cab (yes just the cab) of a 1989 Mazda B2200 extra cab and competed professionally with ALL their products. Thanks for sharing....
Damn you are OG! I started in 1989, only later in my career here to take over "RTTI Online" around 2010. Sounds like your Mazda probably shook the whole street! I also competed in shows using (12) Audiophile 12" subwoofers in my 1989 Nissan Hardbody with a shell. Much respect to you for still being a part of the Rockford Fosgate family! -Eric
I just bought a p1-2x10 enclosure and these things are not only loud enough but keep the sound clean with great sound quality and no distortion. Unlike kicker enclosures being all muddy and rumbled with 0 sound quality.
I am now running 3 T1 12s in my toyota rav4 I started with p3 12s and I will say the p3 is an amazing subwoofer. They can really handle a clean 800-1000 watts and have great sound quality. I miss the sound quality of the p3s now that I'm running T1s but the T1s get much louder and have more spl.
Sounds like you need to upgrade your power source. I could misunderstand though. You should try running 2 of the t1’s on the same amount of wattage and see if there’s a difference for the better in quality
I just got my T1 12. But using a stock radio :/ but few years back was running my P3 15 and that hit harder than most people 2 15s together. P3 and T1 are both awesome
I have a single T1 10” on just 500 watts in a big custom box tuned lower than rockford’s recommendation. The depth and clarity is unreal. You cannot find a better sub at its price point
Ordering a Rockford Fosgate Prime R1-1X12 with a box from Crutchfield. Can not wait to get it to replace my alpine sub. The subtle lows Rockford's hit is bar none the best in the business.
The P3 is an awesome subwoofer. Keep in mind the P3 10" is rated to handle 500 Watts RMS. However, the Kicker CXA800.1 can produce 800 Watts, so you'll be over powering that woofer by 300 Watts.
I’m 16 my first system is going like this-ORDERED: 4 rockford fosgate door speakers, A Skar one channel 1500 watt amp (for subs) and a dual 12 sub box for my xcab silverado. NOT ORDERED: x2 Rockford Fosgate P3D4 12s. I’ll keep u guys posted on my experience with my system after i get the subs ordered with my next check. Hope it bumps!
Hopefully Rockford will still reply. I’m running Two PPS4-8s in a sealed box with 10 inch bass radiators. In the same box I have two nice tweeters that will match the frequencies perfectly. However I have a 2 channel amp. As of right now I ran the wires from the rockfords and the tweeters to the block terminals, that exits the box and allows wire connection on the outside. So 2 positives and 2 negatives on each terminal. Those two block terminals exit the box, and will run to the amp. So my final question - Will it be okay to run the 2 rockfords, and the 2 tweeters (have crossovers) on a two channel amp?
Hi Pierce, so it sounds like you have a tweeter and a midrange on each channel, right? If so, yes this will work. The amp will “see” a 4-ohm load from 80Hz-5kHz (frequency response of the PPS4-8) and assuming you have a 5kHz High Pass crossover on the tweeter, the amp will “see” a 4-ohm load from 5kHz-20KHz. If the crossover is offset, say 4kHz, then between 4kHz-5kHz the amp will “see” a 2-ohm load.
I love Rockford Fosgate products! Great technology and quality, won a lot of SPL trophys years ago in Austria. But now i live in Mongolia, is there a dealer somewhere?
HI Nick! Thanks for being a true Rockford Fosgate fanatic! Unfortunately, we don't have any dealers that far north in Mongolia :-( . The international distributors that do hire and maintain dealers is available on our International Distributors list at www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealerlocator/
I can't decide between the P3 and the t0 12 in. Ideally sealed enclosure, I listen to a variety of music and for space reasons. Looking for extremely clean but hard-hitting bass that can hit the 30-35hz nicely
As you can see from the specifications below, both subwoofers are equally capable of playing low frequencies and adapted for sealed enclosures. The primary difference is the amount of power handling. Let's say you'll use the P500X1bd amplifier (you would use the corresponding 2Ω DVC subwoofer if running one, or the corresponding 4Ω DVC subwoofer if running two). Although it's rated to produce 500 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm, its Dynamic Power is 787 Watts at 1Ω. The T0 subwoofer would be a better choice. The P3D2-12/P3D4-12 has the following specs: • Fs: 26.5 • Pe: 600 Watts RMS • EBP: 50 (toward sealed) The T0D212/T0D412 has the following specs: • Fs: 26 Hz • Pe: 700 Watts RMS • EBP: 45 (toward sealed)
@@sanj5026 You can get the F3 down to 37 Hz with 1.4 cubic feet internal volume + driver displacement (0.14) = 1.54 cubic feet total internal volume. However, since this is a larger sealed box, you can only apply 400W each (800W total) to both subwoofers or you'll break them. You can use our BoxWizard to figure out dimensions that work for you ... just target 1.54 cu.ft. internal volume and you'll be on track: rockfordfosgate.com/support/box-wizard/
@@rockfordfosgate okay, as for the T1 12inch, what sealed enclosure box volume would yield a F3 35-40hz. I have limited trunk space, trying to maximize my lows while having high, clean sounding output ! I appreciate your help thus far 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Some of these comments man, they just make my day! Hilarious!! I HATE how there isn't dual inputs on the subs, there's no reason why I shouldn't be able to run a matched pair of amps per subwoofer, 1 amp per coil. PLEASE change the crappy terminal system🙏
I got a single 12 inch t0d4 subwoofer and I was wondering if a rockford fosgate r2-1200x1 amp would it break the subwoofer or would it be fine if I overpowered it cause I know that the rms rating is 700 watts and the peak is 1400 watts
Great idea to check this. The T0D412 is rated to handle 700W RMS and can be wired to a 2-ohm load. However, the R2-1200X1 is designed to be operated at 1-ohm, so there is a mismatch there. Are you considering adding a 2nd subwoofer, so you can wire them down to a 1-ohm load? If so, two subwoofers can handle 1,400 Watts, therefore the R2-1200X1 would be perfect because Dynamic Power is 1,389 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω.
@@kyanwildcat2369 Likely the Power T500-1bdCP since it can produce the same power at 2-ohms and 1-ohm. rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t500-1bdcp/
Used to have a couple P3's 12" and those things bumped! Really want an upgrade, looking for a full car stereo upgrade, for the subs I want something that really hits, is one T3 worth the money or would a couple T2 13" or T2 16" be better?
All of our subwoofer are engineered for Sound Quality, so it depends on your goals. A lot of fanatics use the T2 13" and 16" subwoofers and have amazing bass response!
Hello my dad gonna buy another rockford fosgate subwoofer I was wondering what is better 1 rockford fosgate p3d4 12 inch subwoofer or 1 rockford fosgate t0d4 12 subwoofer
That's great! They are very similar sound quality wise, but the T0 subwoofer is rated to handle more power. The P3D4-12 is rated to handle 600 Watts RMS and the T0D412 is rated to handle 700 Watts RMS.
Don't really understand your comment regarding "screws under your power one broke off." Are you referring the screws that hold the subwoofer together located on the bottom part of the subwoofer (magnet) have broken off? No, we don't see this happening, so we have no video on replacement of screws that hold the subwoofer together. You may want to contact our technical support specialists to see if they can help you identify what parts are broken and your options on getting it fixed at 1-800-669-9899.
Do you cover warranty for the sub popping out of place? Voice coils are fine they both read 4ohms, and if I push it back in it sounds fine but at around 60hz it pops out of place and sounds horrendous
Hi DisherAce, that depends on several factors, so can you help us out with a little more information: • What model number subwoofer do you have? • Where did you purchase it from? • What enclosure do you have it in (sealed/vented/tuning frequency)? • What model number amplifier is powering the subwoofer?
I have decent electrical in my car 1/0 cabling second battery and just purchased two twelves t1 twelves I tried them out with a fosgate 500.1 aswell as a massive 1500.1 and think they sound pretty much the same. Can I run more power to them
The Power T1 12" subwoofer is designed to handle 800W continuously. If you drive more power to them, you'll likely burn the voice coils. You can see all the specs here: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t1d212/
Good day I purchased this speaker in enclosure on amazon and the front suspension was dry rotted when received. I contacted the seller and they agreed to accept the return however my local shipper cannot ship due to restrictions. Shipping with dhl or fedex is costing almost the cost of what was paid for the item. Is there a kit of any sort to have this repaired as to avoid my loss?
Hi Laurie, Unfortunately no, this sounds like a package that someone built and selling on their own. Also, the only Authorized Amazon dealer are listings by sold by Rockford Fosgate, LLC. All other sellers are unauthorized and notorious for selling old merchandise as new. For more info, please look at our DO NOT BUY list on our Dealer Locator: www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealerlocator/
@@LaurieBenjamin I'm sorry, we don't offer repair kits for our subwoofers because we typically replace the entire subwoofer under warranty. I would have the seller ship you a replacement subwoofer (no enclosure) on his charge since they sold you a product that was dry rotted.
Hi- I ve built a fiberglass subwoofer closed enclosure and planned to mount the Punch 10" P2 subwoofer in it. The thing is that the enclosure came out a volume of about 35 liters . Will the bigger enclosure degrade the sound of subwoofer?. I do not want to mount a 12" sub as it wont fit stealth in the trunk.
The P2D4-10 is recommended at 0.59 cu. ft. (16.7 liters) sealed or 1.40 ft. (39.6 liters) vented. If you plan on running it sealed, you will have better low frequency response, but your mechanical power handling will be lower. If you decide to port it, your vent will be very long. Depending upon what you decide to do, contact our technical support at rftech.custhelp.com for the the max power you can apply to a sealed box, or the vent diameter and length for a vented box.
Which 8” subwoofer would you recommend for a 92 Lexus Sc400 without a box in the original center back position? Thank you for your help. It seems like it needs a free air speaker. Bass sounds loose and poppy.
Hi bsrodeo7s, so you have existing 8" Rockford Fosgate subwoofers in an enclosure now? Which way in the enclosure facing? If they are "popping" this may be due to over-excursion. A single 8" may not provide enough bass you're expecting out of it.
I just tested (2) T112D2 (2004 model) vs (2) P3D2-12 (current model) and there was very little difference, with both sets running 600w RMS. Did the Punch series improve THAT much? read: very little difference = no discernible difference in SPL
Hi Screaminggiraffe, The T112D2 is rated to handle 600W RMS and the P312D2 is rated to handle 500W RMS. The sensitivity is 86 dB (T112D2) and 87 dB (P312D2) respectively. Assuming both used the exact same enclosure and the same power (as you noted), we wouldn't expect any huge difference. In a side-by-side comparison, you'll need to have at least 1 dB difference to hear even the SLIGHTEST difference. Now this is a theoretical position, we're not saying it's O.K. to do this because you'll blow up your subs... but in order to hear a noticeable difference, you'll need to double your cone area or double your power input. That would provide a 3dB increase which would be a noticeable upgrade.
Now they have brands like sundown audio Dc audio aound digital they are very very cheap and they may get wayyyyyy louder dan any rockfordfosgate products.. BUT how long will they last?😂 i started with rockford subs and amps and i will always buy them.just think about it do u need more beefy sorounding ruber or do u need more cone area? Wich makes more sence? I would atick with more cone area.. keep it up rockford..
Thanks Naiem! The difference is Rockford Fosgate engineers focus on the performance of the subwoofer with an emphasis on Sound Quality ... we're not gluing multiple spiders together to prevent the speaker from breaking while trying to reproduce a narrow band of frequencies. In other words, Rockford Fosgate designs subwoofers right to begin with. The biggest complement we consistently hear when someone switches from one of those brands to Rockford Fosgate is "These subs sound so musical." Naiem, keep spreading the word and together we'll help save our friends from bad sounding car audio!
Rockford Fosgate definitely agree I’ve had numerous of subs from not so mainstream brands like re audio etc.. currently have some alpine type r’s and their good but I leaning toward some fosgate p3’s.
Don't get me wrong, I love Rockford Fosgate and I use their products all the time. But I equally love Sundown products as well--now, Rockford Fosgate products, I can push a tiny bit more power to them than they are rated for, and be comfortable with it in the right box/enclosure. But I wouldn't want to do that all the time. RF products are made to do what they say they are made to do; they aren't like Sundown speakers where you can throw as much wattage as possible at them and you know they'll last. RF speakers are purposely made to do their ratings and not more than that, and that's good. It makes it very easy to build boxes to spec without worrying about "what if I give it too much wattage?" Sundowns however are made for POWER... and BEEFY, HEAVY speakers, that can probably easily do 25-30% more power in RMS than they are rated for and be perfectly fine. This isn't because they are badly marketed, but more or less because they are underrated. Which can have downsides but also plus sides. I do however commend RF for making their speakers and products not overrated, but also not underrated like other brands. It's a sweet mix of right-in-the-middle. You don't get underrated products like Sundown, and you don't get overrated products like Boss, Dual, Pyle, Alpine (more or less my opinion for Alpine), etc.
Bought my first rockford fosgate products few months ago, 2x 15p3 with the prime 1200.1 this set up hits hard. Thinking of upgrading the woofers, any advice on which t1 or t2? Still keeping the amp.
The P3 subwoofer is our most popular in the line, so that's a really good setup you have there. If you upgrade the subwoofers you would need to go from a 600W (P3) to an 800-1200W (T1) and double your amplifier power (add a secondary R2-1200X1) for it to be noticeable. Otherwise, simply switching subwoofers wouldn't gain you much difference.
@@Jayty676 Yes, you have a pretty powerful amplifier and subwoofer setup. Simply switching from P3 to T1 subwoofers isn't really going to change much, so there are many factors to consider. Check out the "Speaker Power Handling" video I made with some good info that may help: ruclips.net/video/uaGlb9SymdI/видео.html
i already installed the prime R165-S kit in my car and im thinking of buying single prime R1S4-12 with a 180 watt rms amp. or should i buy a 240 watt rms amp? i dont want to overpowering bass cause i only have 2 door speakers running on aftermarket headunit, nice taste in music btw
Hi Thompa! The Prime R165-S speakers are great performers and rated to handle 40W RMS. A single R1S4-12 subwoofer would be the perfect addition rated to handle 200W RMS. You can match the subwoofer with an R150X2 bridged to produce 150W @ 4-ohms (a good matchup). Another option is switching the front speakers from the source unit to the front channels of an R250X4 which would produce 40W RMS stereo. The rear channels of the R250X4 could then be bridged to the subwoofer to produce 125W @ 4-ohms. Either scenario would provide a good balance of mids & highs to bass ratio.
I have two 15 P3s, each on their own Punch P1000 amp. But my magnets shifted and destroyed the voice coils on both. Would I notice a big difference if upgraded to 2 T1s in the same box (ported, recommend enclosure size for both) on the same amps, or am I better just getting another set of P3s ?
The Punch P1000X1bd is rated to produce 1000 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm RMS and up to 1,430 Watts Dynamic. The P3D2-15 are only rated to handle 600 Watts RMS. Since the T1D215 are rated to handle 1000 Watts RMS they are a better match for that amplifier.
Question. I'm putting T2652-S component speaker kits in all 4 doors in my double cab silverado wired to a 4 output 400 watt amp from you guys I'm also putting 2 powered ps8s under front seats and 2 t1s2-10s under back seat with a custom box wired to a t10001bd amp. I will be using 10 farad capacitor along with xp3400 additional battery under the hood with a 500amp isolater. I'm also putting in a Axxess AXDSPX-GM31 What can I expect from this system?
@@codylee5466 The box types completely depend upon the internal volume. I would suggest calling our technical support with the Vb (and Fb of the vented enclosure) so they can suggest which is the better enclosure to use. As for the entire system, it sounds well matched and should provide great sound quality!
It's not a matter of which one is more "powerful", but rather which one can handle more power. The Power Series (right) can withstand the most amount of power, the Punch Series (middle) can handle a high amount of power, and the Prime Series (left) can handle low-to-moderate power levels.
Hello, I recently got back into Audio and bought an old school Solo Baric 12" with a ported box and a Punch amplifier, The bass is very Muddy and insecuate due to the ported box. I was recommended to go with 3 10" in a sealed box for a more SQ experience. I have a RF BD1500 amp to play with and was looking for lots of Bass but also accurate, which Subwoofer would you recommend for a SQ setup?
Quality of bass mostly has to do with the type of subwoofer used combined with the enclosure design. The Rockford Fosgate Power bd1500.1 produces 1500W x 1 @ 2-ohms, but unfortunately, 3 subwoofers (regardless of what you get) will not create a 2-ohm load. Specifically, why were you recommended 3 subwoofers? Was this simply based upon the airspace available? We typically work backwards to find how much available airspace there is to work with, then select a subwoofer model, size, and quantity best optimized for that space. It may worth calling our technical support so they can discuss the various options with you. I'd like you to have good bass, so instead of taking a stab in the dark to see if a different type of system might work, let's have our technical guys recommend the best option for you and your vehicle. They can be reached at 1-800-669-9899 or live chat at www.rockfordfsogate.com
I'm getting ready to put a T1D210 and a Skar amp in my new car. I'm suuuuper excited. Just waiting on the sub and the LOC I ordered to get here and I'm good to go. I don't want to rattle my teeth out so I'm just going with the one... for now lol
Awesome, Mike! The T1D210 is an fantastic subwoofer rated to handle 600 Watts RMS / 1,200 Watts Max. To prevent burning the voice coil, keep the power applied to 600 Watts or less since the peak value is based on musical transients.
It's always best to give any subwoofer some "break in" time to normalize the resonant frequency and sound quality. You're free to hammer it, but I never go "full volume" on any system because that's typically when you start burning voice coils.
Attend bbox ported dual 10in subwoofer box Model number-10SPLDV Hey Rockford here my q so I have a dual 10in ported box that’s net cubic feet per subwoofer is 2.25 cubic ft and the 10in punch p1s4 recommends 1.4 so is my box to big or Will it be OK in the enclosure with right power to then I know you can little bigger with The enclosure
Thanks for that information! Looks like the 10SPLDV - 10" Dual SPL Vented Enclosure has a box volume of 1.35 cubic feet (per chamber). Do I have the right part number? atrendusa.com/products/10spldv-10-dual-vented-spl-carpeted Yup, the P1S4-10 is recommended for 1.4 cu. ft. in a vented enclosure tuned to 32 Hz. I'm not sure what the 10SPLDV is tuned to (doesn't say on their website), but you definitely have the right box volume. It's only 0.05 cu. ft. off, so you should be good to go!
@@extendedraven7893 Alright, great! You should be rockin' with that enclosure. The post looks long, so it should be tuned reasonably low. If you like, you can always call our Technical Support on Tuesday (Monday is a holiday) with the box volume (1.35 cu. ft.) and the port opening (H x W x D) and they can run the calculation backwards to determine the tuning frequency.
If you're doing a single P3 12", hopefully it's the P3D2-12 so you can wire it to a 1Ω load. At 600W power handling, either amplifier will work well, but I prefer the Punch model since it's Class-BD, so you'll have a little better sounding bass with it. If you're doing a ported enclosure (which I recommend), be sure to engage the Infrasonic Filter to prevent ultra-low (inaudible) frequencies from damaging the subwoofer. Punch P500X1bd Rated: 500 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm Dynamic: 787 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm Prime R2-750X1 Rated: 750 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω Dynamic: 830 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω
brands ever change their designed look or do they have a certain many of years They don’t change it. The look of there subwoofers Seem like nobody has come out with new look in years. don’t get me wrong. I love my P1 design i’m just curious if you all ever thought about changing to new look.
@@rockfordfosgate don’t know that thank for the info but like to see diff color design or whole new design hasn’t the third GEN been out for a bit but Rockford fosgate is still the best
@@extendedraven7893 Yes, the Gen-3 Punch subwoofers have been out for a few years, yet are still 5-10 years ahead of competitors. We have experimented with colors in red, gray & black with most fanatics choosing the black models. Do you have a specific color design you were thinking about?
Yea but sundown will get really low like a bunch of floping air . All these do is hit hard and sound really good doing it and last forever. Lol! Rockford fosgate has always made quality products.
So whats the best for all around music, but also will beat hard . I drive a little 94 honda civic hatchback I've been using a alpine type s 12 for a year. I'm looking to upgrade this year. I'm redoing my electrical. Alternator and the big 3 . not that my last set up needed it .
Great question Gavin, the advantage of Rockford Fosgate subwoofers is their ability to reproduce all bass frequencies, not just a 60Hz "whomp, whomp". So, in other words, you'll be hearing ALL your music. Our most popular subwoofer for all types of music is the Punch P3 subwoofer line. It has a great frequency response at an attainable price. You can find all the Punch P3 subwoofers here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/selector/mobile-subwoofers/
What model P3 and T1 are you referring to? Are you switching from the P3S (Shallow) 12" to the T1 12" slim woofer? Generally speaking, as you move up in the line, you improve your power handling capacity.
@@rockfordfosgate just the regular p3 12 and t1 12. I know the p3s are rated 600 rms and the t1s are 800. I’m just wondering if the extra 400 watts of power is worth the jump in price.
@@IDOOOOOIT You're looking at a nominal improvement at around +2dB difference. Technically, you'll need to double your "cone area" or "power applied" in order to hear a +3dB increase, which would be noticeable.
All Rockford Fosgate subwoofers are designed for Sound Quality, so any driver you choose will produce awesome sounding bass. Our most popular model is the Punch P3 subwoofer because it has all the performance you expect from Rockford Fosgate with the highest power handing in the Punch line-up.
Hello. Is a daul 2 ohm a 4 ohm because it has four terminals? And if you have to punch 500 rms p3 10s is it do you recommend a 2 Chanel 1000 watt punch amp? Or does it have to a mono amp?
A dual-2-ohm subwoofer has two voice coils, each with it's own pair of (+) and (-) terminals. Use our Woofer WiringWizard to see how a dual voice coil subwoofer can be wired to create different impedances: www.rockfordfosgate.com/support/wiringwizard.aspx For the P3 subwoofers, you can use whatever amplifier you choose, assuming it can play the frequencies needed for the speaker. Also, be certain not to exceed the RMS power ratings of the subwoofer to prevent from burning the voice coils.
How the he’ll do you remove the dust cap on the latest P3 10? I have a month old wonder that’s rattling and it sounds like the voice coil former is unglued. This is such a disappointment and I didn’t buy it a a RF dealer so no warranty. This is also a common pro blend I’m reading. The sub literally looks brand new and was never over powered and gains were set with a scope.
Hi Cherokee Off-Road, these dealer training videos were made before the 3rd generation T2 13"/16" and T3 19" subwoofers were released. However, we created technology overview videos for the new woofers here: ruclips.net/video/dXe8E97ZE0o/видео.html
@@cherokeeoff-road2158 Thank you for being a Rockford Fosgate fanatic! The T2 is a great Sound Quality subwoofer that definitely brings all the girls to your car!
Don’t be fooled, the P1 (aka prime series) absolutely kicks! My friend has a single 12 inch P1 sub in the loaded enclosure that fosgate also sells them in, wired it to his factory amp on his murdered out Range Rover and yes it’s limited by that amp and dumb software that controls it being confused at the load but even so it flexes his windows and defiantly can feel it even outside the SUV cranked up. They sell a dual enclosure, his factory amp fail safes sometimes with dual 12 inch P1’s kicking.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience with other fanatics! For others reading this, the P1 is a Punch Series subwoofer and the models that are sold as individual drivers are the exact same models used in single woofer and dual woofer "Loaded Enclosure" systems.
@@rockfordfosgate oh that makes sense! Can you help me understand more about your door speakers a bit more? Specifically the R165x vs P1650 Vs. T1650 vs P165-SI for example. Like I worked out the 65 = 6.5 inch.. but what does each letter indicate? R seems to indicate lower end.. but otherwise I don’t understand it..
Yes, absolutely. The T1500-1bdCP is rated to produce 1500 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm, with Dynamic Power up to 1715 Watts x 1. If you use two T1D412 subs, you can wire them to 1-ohm. They can handle up to 800 Watts RMS each, so 2 will provide up to 1600 Watts power handling capacity.
hey i have two p2 12s was planning on running them with a pioneer 9601 at 1 ohm and the amp is said to push 1200rms.will they handle the 1200rms just fine considering they do more than rated or its going to be too much for them?
Hi Charlie, Thanks for your inquiry. Assuming you have two of the P2D4-12 models since wiring them would create a 1-ohm load. Those subwoofers are rated to handle up to 400W RMS, so you'll have 800 Watts of power handling capacity. Is this the Pioneer GM-D9601 model you're referring to? If so, the specs show continuous power output at 1,200 W x 1 @ 1-ohm, so you'll be over-powering the subwoofers by 400 watts. We would suggest stepping up to the P3D4-12 subwoofers since they are rated to handle 600W each, so two would give you the proper 1,200W total power handling capacity.
@@charliemilan4892 The L110000 is rated at 1000W x 1 @ 1-ohm. You need to move up from the P2 to the P3 subwoofers if you want to run that much power. If you use those big amplifiers on P2 subwoofers, you'll smoke 'em in no time.
hello, I was looking at P1 and P2 10's, what is the difference between those 2, the p2 only handle 50w more each, so Im a little confused, thanks for your feedback.
Yes, they are very close. The performance is very similar, so the major difference is the power increase from 250W to 300W RMS and you go from a Single Voice Coil to a Dual Voice Coil.
Rockford Fosgate so what would you guys recommend, the p1’s with a mono 500w amp (2 10’s) or p2’s with a mono 600w amp( 2 10’s), i have a seperate 4 channel amp for my mids and highs that puts out 80 X 2 and 60 X 2
Depends on how much SPL you want. the P2's with a little more power handling will give you slightly more output. We just suggest keeping the amplifier power just under the power handling capacity of the subwoofers so you don't blow them up.
Hey Gilbert, that's a great subwoofer. It should pound in your ride. That's a lot of power, so if you need help setting your amp gains, contact our support specialists at 1-800-669-9899 Mon-Fri 8am-5pm MST.
The Power T600-2 is rated to produce 200 Watts x 2 @ 4-Ohm, 300 Watts x 2 @ 2-Ohm, and 600 Watts x 1 @ 4-Ohm Bridged. The P1S4-10 is rated to handle 250 Watts RMS. So if you're going to wire 1 subwoofer per channel in stereo mode, you'll be totally fine.
deciding between p3 12 or the t1 12 , I'm unsure as to wether the t1 is better sq then the p3 . looking to get the best overall but I don't want to lose sound quality for spl . so will the t1 sound better and louder or just louder ?
Sorry about missing your original question Brandon. All Rockford Fosgate subwoofers are designed for Sound Quality, so any model will work fine in the recommended enclosures.
@@rockfordfosgate so I've ran the t1 up against the p3 , and I can't justify the t1 over the p3 . I am running the p3 on 600 rms amp and the t1 is pushed by a 1000 rms amp . should the t1 be louder then the p3 ? or is it just a different sound . as of right now I'm really thinking I should have stuck with my p3 and just purchased a second p3
@@brandonseiter5471 When comparing subwoofers side by side, you need to compare cone area (Sd), speaker sensitivity (SPL), and power applied (Watts). Doubling cone area (Sd) or Power Applied (Watts) will result in only +3dB more output, or 1.23 times louder. A four times increase would result in +6dB more output, or 1.52 times louder. You would need to increase the output to +10dB in order to get 2.0 times (double) the loudness. As you can see, if you're literally comparing side by side, you'll need to go from 1 to 2 subwoofers or twice as much power (+3dB) just to to hear any noticeable difference in loudness. Both the P3 12" and T1 12" are rated at 85 dB and the difference in cone area is only 22 cm2, so essentially powering them with the same amplifier would result in no real difference in output. However, since you're powering the P3 with 600W and the T1 with 1000, this calculates into only a 2.2 dB increase. In other words, comparing the P3 against the T1 in your scenario, the average person would hear little difference.
I currently have two P3 12s with the 1200W amp and have been considering purchasing the T1 12s with the 1500w amp. Is there any significant difference between the two subwoofers?
Sound quality wise they are very similar. The major difference is the higher power handling. The practical side of this is you may not see much of a difference since you'll theoretically need to double your cone area or double your power applied (assuming the subs could handle it) in order to get a +3dB increase that would be noticeable.
@@rockfordfosgate I'm confused as to what is the point of the t1 ? if its almost double the price point of the p3 . why is it in the line up if you don't really see a noticeable difference ?
@@brandonseiter5471 Because many fanatics start at the higher performing (Power) series. If there wasn’t a T1, you would be jumping into [an equivalent] to a T2 model that’s rated around 2kW. However, in your situation, comparing the P3 to a T1 is similar to comparing the P2 to a P3. It’s a marginal difference.
Yes you can. You just want to make sure you don't exceed the RMS Power ratings of the subwoofer, so I'm not 100% sure what T1 subwoofer you're referring to, but if you're using the 15" or 12" standard sized subwoofers, you should be fine: T1D215: 1,000W RMS T1D212: 800W RMS T1D210: 600W RMS T1S1-12: 600W RMS T1S1-10: 500W RMS
Hi Gps jb, I'd like for you to consider the "cone area" vs. power applied to your scenario, to see if it meets your expectations: The P2D2-12 / P2D4-12 subwoofer have an Sd = 570 cm^2 (1,142 cm^2 cone area) and rated at 400 Watts RMS, so you can apply 800W to both of them. Moving to the T2S1-13 / T2S2-13 will provide an Sd = 707 cm^2 and is rated at 2000 Watts RMS. If you used the T2S1-16 / T2S2-16 it would provide an Sd = 1,034 and is rated at 2500 Watts RMS. Moving to a single 13" will give you 435 cm^2 less cone area, but you can apply 1,200 more Watts. Without plotting an SPL estimate, we can guess this would provide a negligible SPL difference. Moving to a single 16" will give you 108 cm^2 less cone area, but you can apply 1,700 more Watts. Without plotting an SPL estimate, we can guess this would provide a small SPL increase. Consider a +3dB Increase is 1.23x the perceived loudness, so you theoretically need 2x the amplifier power or twice the cone area (increase from 2 to 4 subwoofers.) A +6dB increase is 1.5 times perceived loudness, so you would need 4x the amplifier power or quadruple the cone area (increase to 8 subwoofers.) A +10dB increase is twice as loud, you would need 10x the amplifier power or increase to 20 subwoofers).
If you're using a single P3D4-12 subwoofer, it is rated to handle 600 Watts RMS and can be wired to a 2-ohm load. These amplifiers will work great: • R2-500X1: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/r2-500x1/ • P300X1: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p300x1/
That's awesome ...yeah, keeping the power within the subwoofer's RMS Power Rating will make them last a very long time! Glad they are still bumpin' hard!
Yes, just running my trusty ppi 2150am bridged to 2 individual sealed 12s and left right mono up front with the old school original rockford tweeters in the dash and separate 3 or 4 inch mid and 6.5 inch midbass in each door. Wish you still made the separate mids and the old school canned hams for rear fill. That old school combo of tweeter, mid and midbass was so clean and powerful sounding.
@@koprcord5338 That's awesome! I use the 5.25" component system in my car, allowing you to separate the tweeter and midrange for optimal installation. We do sell the Punch Pro mid-bass, midrange and tweeters as individuals if that's an option for you.
@@rockfordfosgate cool, just getting back into the hobby in time to put a system in my son's car. Already have 2 refreshed old school 150s. Unfortunately there are no reputable old school installers around in fort collins, not even a rockford dealer. In the 90s in Denver quality auto sound was the place to go but they must have changed owners and no longer rep rockford.
@@koprcord5338 Looks like the closest to 80525 is Xtreme Auto Soundz as listed below. Funny ... Rick Jones works here now that headed up the installation bay at Quality Auto Sound in Denver ... small world! XTREME AUTO SOUNDZ 10300 Washington ST Thornton, Colorado 80229 303.249.5312 xtremeautosoundz.com/
Ras, by chance is it a 1200.1 fosgate? I recently bought the 1200.1 and was absolutely thrilled with it. And its watts are actually higher per ohm load, the dyno is incredible for it. I'm currently not running it right now as I have used my older 1000 watt fosgate from the 90s and it beats the absolute hell out of my p3s. I'm going to have to get a set of t1s or t2s to get what I want.
Hi Rejiv, In your other post you asked about running one T1D412. If you are running two T1D412 , they will provide up to 1600 Watts power handling (800 Watts RMS each). Since the T2500-1bdCP produces too much power, I would suggest running the subwoofers in series/parallel to create a 4-ohm load. Although it's rated to produce 1500 Watts x 1 @ 4-Ohm, dynamic power output is 1823 Watts x 1 @ 4-Ohm, so that is a better match-up. Use at least 12 AWG for the subwoofer wiring and 1/0 AWG for the B+ and GND.
@@rockfordfosgate end up buying 2 units of it... used single sub of p3d412 on my punch amp... so done using 1 unit of sub... plan to feel 2 unit of sub.... im planing to put the sub face inside the car.. using mitsubishi lancer.. ported box with hole in the middle facing inside the car too... i just havent install my subwoofer and amp... soon to be install in next week.. this my current setup in my Mitsubishi Lancer GTS ; Headunit : Kenwood DDX918WS Front door : Power 6.75" Series Component System T1675-S Rear door : Power 6.75" 2-Way Full-Range Speaker T1675 Channel amp : Power 600 Watt 4-Channel Amplifier T600-4 Subwoofer amp : Power 2500 Watt Class-bd Constant Power Amplifier T2500-1bdCP Subwoofer : Power 12" T1 2-Ohm DVC Subwoofer T1D212
@@rejivshankar242 Very nice setup. You may find in the Mitsubishi Lancer that firing the subwoofers toward the rear license plate may produce better bass due to the acoustics. This is because the subwoofers have more air to compress rather than firing into the rear seats.
@@billyjeepus824 The Remote Punch Level takes over for the internal Gain control, and neither of them control the amount of "power" the amplifier produces, just how quickly that power level is achieved. The P3D4-10 are rated to handle up to 500 Watts RMS, so two would provide 1,000 Watts RMS power handling. If you run the system average-to-hard, yes you will likely smoke those voice coils because the R1200-1D is rated to produce 1,200 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm with Dynamic power up to 1,400 Watts.
@@rockfordfosgate and how long do you think it would take to smoke them, I love testing Rockfords capabilities as you guys have had such incredible products, I've been running these subs for nearly a year at 1 ohm
@@billyjeepus824 Hard to say because it's 100% on how they are being driven. Technically, applying more continuous power than the RMS rating is exceeding the design.
Looking to buy a SINGLE 12 Rockford Fosgate T1 Series and I plan on buying The Rockford Fosgate T1000-1BDCP..would that Amplifier be SAFE on pushing The SINGLE 12?, some advisors from crutchfield say it will be safe and some say it will be too much for it, so I’m confused since the ones say it will be safe cause the amps are underrated..also I have seen a few ppl push that single sub fine with the full potential watts that amp gives it just trying to make sure it’s for sure safe from an expert and experience from you guys. Thank you
logan smith yea I went to a local shop that sells Rockford Fosgate systems and he said the same thing cause I have 2 p3 12s running on a Rockford Fosgate T1000-1BDCP AMPLIFIER but I want something more deeper bass and hits lower notes..thnx for replying much appreciated!
First, what model T1 subwoofer are you referring to? We have 3 generations of "T1" subwoofer, including the "slim" models that all have different power handling ratings. Also what size of "T1"? The exact model number will help us with the proper answer.
The T0 Series is an exceptional subwoofer, bringing together standout features from our Punch and Power Series. While it’s a fantastic option, our sales insights showed that most enthusiasts leaned toward either the flagship Punch P3 or opted to move up to the Power T1.
@@charliemilan4892 If you are never going to upgrade the power, then yes, go with the P2 series. Keep in mind they are rated to handle up to 400 Watts RMS, so the biggest amplifier size you'll want is 800 Watts since you'll have 2 of them.
well the p2s im getting are both d2 im planning on pushing them with a kenwood 9105 which is 2ohm stable and gives a total of 900rms .will it be too much for them considering its jus 50 rms extra on each sub?
@@charliemilan4892 Thanks for your detailed follow-up with model numbers! That looks like a pretty good match, assuming you operate the system at normal listening levels. If you're going to absolutely beat the hell out of these subwoofers, then I would say it's too much power. Be sure to setup the gain properly we have a tutorial here that has 3 options: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/46
Hi Rejiv, The older P3D412 is rated to handle 500 Watts RMS. A single woofer can be wired to create a 2-ohm load. Do you mean the Prime R500-1D? This is rated to produce 500x1 @ 2 ohms, but can dynamically produce up to 580 Watts x 1 @ 2-Ohms. In my view, this is a perfect match. P3D412 - www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p3d412/ R500-1D - www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/R500-1D/
All speakers and subwoofers come with a 1 Year Warranty. Be sure to match your amplifier power to the subwoofer's RMS Power Ratings because typically, burned voice coils are not covered under warranty.
@@radianm6 We have a Warranty Claim on our website that covers speakers for 1 year with an Authorized Dealer Receipt and valid Serial Number at: www.rockfordfosgate.com/contact-us/41/
The main differences: - The P2 has a poly cone and is rated to handle 400 Watts RMS. - The P3 has an aluminum cone and is rated to handle 600 Watts RMS.
The Punch P3 subwoofers hammer and are our best selling subwoofer. Unfortunately, we don't have estimates for "blocks", only how many counties or states you can hear them. Ha Ha. It totally depends on how much power you apply and the type of enclosure you build for them.
@@rockfordfosgate thanks for your reply. I was thinking about hooking up the punch 1000 amp to the p3s that come with the box it comes with on the RF site into my honda pilot
@@reckingball6242 That would be a great match because the P3 Dual Subwoofer enclosure can handle up to 1200 watts, so that amplifier is perfect. My wife has a Honda Pilot and the acoustics in this vehicle will SLAM with that enclosure!
Before I was listening to music maximum of 20 to 30minutes in my car..after fiixng new component speakers from RF it's only stopping when I switch off the car..loving those speakers...now planning for prime sub also...it's not annoying type like JBL,pioneer,kicker..something is there in RF speakers and woofers..love from India
The T0 and T1 are very close in performance with the main differences being power handling. T1 12": 800 Watts RMS T0 12": 700 Watts RMS T1 10": 600 Watts RMS T0 10": 550 Watts RMS
Q I’m amp said will it do 2ohms at 1000watts so I’m other Q is if i do 2ohms I’mpedance to my Rockford fosgate p2d2 will it damage my amp? Btw it’s kenwood 1000.1 mono block
Running an amplifier at a 2-ohm impedance doesn't hurt woofers, but the amount of power it generates does hurt them. I'm not sure what size or how many P2D2 subwoofers you have, so I'll assume you have (1) one of the P2D2-12 subwoofers that's rated to handle 400 Watts RMS. In this scenario, yes, 1000 watts would blow up one subwoofer because it's over-powering it by 600 Watts.
@@extendedraven7893 O.K. great, so two P2D2-12 subwoofers will give you 800 Watts of power handling. This amplifier will still be too much power, but more importantly, you can only wire them to a 1/2-ohm load, 2-ohm load, or 8-ohm load.
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CrystalMeth77 is a winner! All P1 & P2 subwoofers use "Kevlar fiber reinforced paper cone". The P3 is similar in construction with the only exception being the aluminum cone.
Rockford Fosgate Nah its cool. you guys made me the loudest 10" sub I've ever heard for an affordable price so don't apologize for it. I've started getting my friends to buy P3 subwoofers from you guys and dealers. And yes expect me to buy another P3 very soon.
@@rockfordfosgate I have a sealed box with a brand new(crappy AutoTek 2000watt Class A-B Amp)with your 2 12" P3's and I want more bump!! This was my VERY FIRST sealed box. It's in my 2014 VW Beetle Turbo. It sounds pretty good but, I'm looking for a ported box and a more powerful amp. The P3's are awesome Subs!! But my last set up was a 15" Tarantula Soundstream in a ported box with a Kenwood 750watt class D amp. And it hit harder then anything I've EVER OWNED!! So I'm trying to get back or BETTER than that. My QUESTION IS... "Would I be better off with ONE P3 12 in a ported box with my same generic Amp, or get a dual 12" ported box and keep the same amp, or ported for one or two and get a stronger amp as well?"
Punch P2 uses a poly cone, single spider and 2.25" voice coil (400 Watts RMS on 12") Power T2 uses an aluminum cone, dual spiders, and 4" voice coil capacity (2000 Watts RMS on 13")
Overall the differences is voice coil size and power handling capacity. You get a higher power handling capacity as you increase in product series. The above video covers the T0 subwoofer having IDHS, we have another video that the differences between the T1 & T2: ruclips.net/video/1IN8wggDCY0/видео.html
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I currently have 4 fosgate 12 inch P3’s in a Toyota 4 runner, and have them on 2 kicker 1200 watt amps and am pushing 600 to each sub. I have to say, I am very impressed by the sound quality, and power of the sub compared to others. Thank you for making an awesome product
Great, Reese! Thanks for your feedback and using Rockford Fosgate in your 4Runner! #fanatic
i have installed fosgate speakers and a fosgate 1200 watt amp and bass in my 2011 ford expedition. i am now deaf. wokeup the nieghbours 2 miles away thought i was having a live rock concert.wow! for less than 1500 dollars it is one hell of a system hearing aides should be here tomorrow
Glad that your system is performing up to your expectations. Be sure to Practice Safe Sound, so you can enjoy your audio system for years to come!
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you guys are truly the most innovative, imaginative, inventive, or whatever word you can use to describe how insanely knowledgeable this company is and how wildly diligent you guys are when it comes to making sure that every speaker has the highest level of quality, design, details, and engineering so that they perform the absolute best that they possibly can. Rockford Fosgate is by far the most influential car audio and sound company of all time, in my most humble opinion! by far the most technologically advanced, experienced, and highest levels of expertise in the field of audio technology and engineering. you guys have always been the leading force behind manufacturing audio and sound systems. thank you guys for helping so much to greatly establish the audio and sound industry and making sure that the quality is at the highest of standards!
Thanks for your feedback! Rockford Fosgate will continue to make high performance audio systems for fanatics like you!
This is soooo cool ! I went through the RTTI program in 1988 ! Damn I'm old, glad to see Rockford Fosgate is still going strong. I had 12 Punch 15's in the cab (yes just the cab) of a 1989 Mazda B2200 extra cab and competed professionally with ALL their products. Thanks for sharing....
Damn you are OG! I started in 1989, only later in my career here to take over "RTTI Online" around 2010. Sounds like your Mazda probably shook the whole street! I also competed in shows using (12) Audiophile 12" subwoofers in my 1989 Nissan Hardbody with a shell. Much respect to you for still being a part of the Rockford Fosgate family! -Eric
Graduated from two p1 12s and now moving on to one t1 15 💪🏽
Thanks @rmh5102 for being a Rockford Fosgate Fanatic! I *bet* it hammers!
Rockford Fosgate the Best!!!! 😍😍🇧🇷
They really did use to be.
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I just bought a p1-2x10 enclosure and these things are not only loud enough but keep the sound clean with great sound quality and no distortion. Unlike kicker enclosures being all muddy and rumbled with 0 sound quality.
Thanks MFF Gameplay for sharing your experience with other car audio fanatics!
What amp do you recommend running?
I am now running 3 T1 12s in my toyota rav4 I started with p3 12s and I will say the p3 is an amazing subwoofer. They can really handle a clean 800-1000 watts and have great sound quality. I miss the sound quality of the p3s now that I'm running T1s but the T1s get much louder and have more spl.
Thank you Justin for sharing your P3 & T1 12" subwoofer experience with other fanatics!
Sounds like you need to upgrade your power source. I could misunderstand though. You should try running 2 of the t1’s on the same amount of wattage and see if there’s a difference for the better in quality
By power source I meant amp not battery my mistake
I just got my T1 12. But using a stock radio :/ but few years back was running my P3 15 and that hit harder than most people 2 15s together. P3 and T1 are both awesome
I have a single T1 10” on just 500 watts in a big custom box tuned lower than rockford’s recommendation. The depth and clarity is unreal. You cannot find a better sub at its price point
Thanks for your endorsement @geraldwilliams5247 and thanks for helping save the world from bad car audio!
Ordering a Rockford Fosgate Prime R1-1X12 with a box from Crutchfield. Can not wait to get it to replace my alpine sub. The subtle lows Rockford's hit is bar none the best in the business.
Great to hear! Keep it within the RMS power ratings and that sub will last forever!
When I was in Germany I had 4 8” fosgates mounted in the rear deck of my car back in 91, omg that was the best system I’ve ever had
Thanks for dropping the BASS in Deutschland!
I just ordered my 10 inch P3 I’m pairing it with a kicker cxa800. 1 amp . I’m pumped 💪
The P3 is an awesome subwoofer. Keep in mind the P3 10" is rated to handle 500 Watts RMS. However, the Kicker CXA800.1 can produce 800 Watts, so you'll be over powering that woofer by 300 Watts.
Rockford Fosgate I’m having it installed professionally I was watching the power protection on that amp to make sure I won’t pop it
Rockford Fosgate and that amp maxed out at 836 lol gotta be real careful 😂👀
@@Edsheahan Alright ... sounds like you know what you're getting into. Just want to make sure you have all the information.
Rockford Fosgate thank you dad ❤️💪
I’m 16 my first system is going like this-ORDERED: 4 rockford fosgate door speakers, A Skar one channel 1500 watt amp (for subs) and a dual 12 sub box for my xcab silverado. NOT ORDERED: x2 Rockford Fosgate P3D4 12s. I’ll keep u guys posted on my experience with my system after i get the subs ordered with my next check. Hope it bumps!
Very helpful as I am searching for which Fosgate woofer to buy. Thanks.
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback!
Anyone else notice they used The Veldt by Deadmau5 in the background? Great choice of music, Rockford 😁👏👌
Hopefully Rockford will still reply.
I’m running Two PPS4-8s in a sealed box with 10 inch bass radiators. In the same box I have two nice tweeters that will match the frequencies perfectly. However I have a 2 channel amp. As of right now I ran the wires from the rockfords and the tweeters to the block terminals, that exits the box and allows wire connection on the outside.
So 2 positives and 2 negatives on each terminal. Those two block terminals exit the box, and will run to the amp.
So my final question - Will it be okay to run the 2 rockfords, and the 2 tweeters (have crossovers) on a two channel amp?
Hi Pierce, so it sounds like you have a tweeter and a midrange on each channel, right? If so, yes this will work. The amp will “see” a 4-ohm load from 80Hz-5kHz (frequency response of the PPS4-8) and assuming you have a 5kHz High Pass crossover on the tweeter, the amp will “see” a 4-ohm load from 5kHz-20KHz. If the crossover is offset, say 4kHz, then between 4kHz-5kHz the amp will “see” a 2-ohm load.
Nothing better than Fosgate
I love Rockford Fosgate products! Great technology and quality, won a lot of SPL trophys years ago in Austria. But now i live in Mongolia, is there a dealer somewhere?
HI Nick! Thanks for being a true Rockford Fosgate fanatic! Unfortunately, we don't have any dealers that far north in Mongolia :-( . The international distributors that do hire and maintain dealers is available on our International Distributors list at www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealerlocator/
I still have the the gold p3 12 in a pro box on a 500w Rockford amp and it still hits in my Impala.... Happy Halloween
Awesome! Glad that P3 subwoofer is treating everyone to a great back massage in your Impala! Stay safe this Halloween 👻
I miss my t1 10s. Bought them used with a t1500bdcp for $200. Everything was pristine. Unbelievable deal !
Damn, you're right ... that was a smokin' deal!
I can't decide between the P3 and the t0 12 in. Ideally sealed enclosure, I listen to a variety of music and for space reasons. Looking for extremely clean but hard-hitting bass that can hit the 30-35hz nicely
As you can see from the specifications below, both subwoofers are equally capable of playing low frequencies and adapted for sealed enclosures. The primary difference is the amount of power handling. Let's say you'll use the P500X1bd amplifier (you would use the corresponding 2Ω DVC subwoofer if running one, or the corresponding 4Ω DVC subwoofer if running two). Although it's rated to produce 500 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm, its Dynamic Power is 787 Watts at 1Ω. The T0 subwoofer would be a better choice.
The P3D2-12/P3D4-12 has the following specs:
• Fs: 26.5
• Pe: 600 Watts RMS
• EBP: 50 (toward sealed)
The T0D212/T0D412 has the following specs:
• Fs: 26 Hz
• Pe: 700 Watts RMS
• EBP: 45 (toward sealed)
@@sanj5026 You can get the F3 down to 37 Hz with 1.4 cubic feet internal volume + driver displacement (0.14) = 1.54 cubic feet total internal volume. However, since this is a larger sealed box, you can only apply 400W each (800W total) to both subwoofers or you'll break them. You can use our BoxWizard to figure out dimensions that work for you ... just target 1.54 cu.ft. internal volume and you'll be on track: rockfordfosgate.com/support/box-wizard/
@@rockfordfosgate What box dimensions would you recommend to yield a F3 of 35hz when utilizing a sealed design for the P3 10 inch?
@@sanj5026 1.0 cubic foot sealed for an F3 = 35 Hz, but you can only power each sub with 275 Watts before you reach over-excursion limits.
@@rockfordfosgate okay, as for the T1 12inch, what sealed enclosure box volume would yield a F3 35-40hz. I have limited trunk space, trying to maximize my lows while having high, clean sounding output ! I appreciate your help thus far 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I've watched this 15 times. I have two T0 series
Thanks @jaysautoandmore1771 for being a Rockford Fosgate fanatic with your T0 subwoofers!
Some of these comments man, they just make my day! Hilarious!!
I HATE how there isn't dual inputs on the subs, there's no reason why I shouldn't be able to run a matched pair of amps per subwoofer, 1 amp per coil. PLEASE change the crappy terminal system🙏
I got a single 12 inch t0d4 subwoofer and I was wondering if a rockford fosgate r2-1200x1 amp would it break the subwoofer or would it be fine if I overpowered it cause I know that the rms rating is 700 watts and the peak is 1400 watts
Great idea to check this. The T0D412 is rated to handle 700W RMS and can be wired to a 2-ohm load. However, the R2-1200X1 is designed to be operated at 1-ohm, so there is a mismatch there. Are you considering adding a 2nd subwoofer, so you can wire them down to a 1-ohm load? If so, two subwoofers can handle 1,400 Watts, therefore the R2-1200X1 would be perfect because Dynamic Power is 1,389 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω.
@@rockfordfosgate which amp would be the best for a single t0d4 12 inch
@@kyanwildcat2369 Likely the Power T500-1bdCP since it can produce the same power at 2-ohms and 1-ohm.
rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t500-1bdcp/
Used to have a couple P3's 12" and those things bumped! Really want an upgrade, looking for a full car stereo upgrade, for the subs I want something that really hits, is one T3 worth the money or would a couple T2 13" or T2 16" be better?
All of our subwoofer are engineered for Sound Quality, so it depends on your goals. A lot of fanatics use the T2 13" and 16" subwoofers and have amazing bass response!
I have Dual P1 Subs with R2-500x1d. Do you think they fit? And which box is best for the subs? Ported or Sealed?
What model number P1 subwoofers do you have? We currently have 6 models called the "P1".
Rockford fosgate always rock 👍
Thanks Supreme Kailash for being a car audio fanatic!
Hello my dad gonna buy another rockford fosgate subwoofer I was wondering what is better 1 rockford fosgate p3d4 12 inch subwoofer or 1 rockford fosgate t0d4 12 subwoofer
That's great! They are very similar sound quality wise, but the T0 subwoofer is rated to handle more power. The P3D4-12 is rated to handle 600 Watts RMS and the T0D412 is rated to handle 700 Watts RMS.
I'm getting two 12 p3s in a bandpass enclosure with rf prime 1200 watt amp in My 21 accord. I can't wait!
The Punch P3 12" subwoofers are amazing subwoofers and our most popular model! Not only will they hammer, you'll really love the Sound Quality!
Hello, are there any protective grill covers for the Rockford Fosgate R/2 12 inch speakers? I can’t seem to find any online.
Sorry we missed your question earlier. No, unfortunately the R2 models do not have speaker grille inserts available :-(
I'm looking to move up to a 12 from a JL 10 sub. RF power is looking good!!
So my screws under my power one broke off is there a video on how to replace them
Don't really understand your comment regarding "screws under your power one broke off." Are you referring the screws that hold the subwoofer together located on the bottom part of the subwoofer (magnet) have broken off? No, we don't see this happening, so we have no video on replacement of screws that hold the subwoofer together. You may want to contact our technical support specialists to see if they can help you identify what parts are broken and your options on getting it fixed at 1-800-669-9899.
You persuaded me with using the Veldt!
JL w7 has one single spider that should have at least 2. They're known to sag. love rockford
… and JL use foam surrounds on the W7 ... which is technology that belongs in the bin!
@@utubecomment21 I agree. They don’t last.
Do you cover warranty for the sub popping out of place? Voice coils are fine they both read 4ohms, and if I push it back in it sounds fine but at around 60hz it pops out of place and sounds horrendous
Hi DisherAce, that depends on several factors, so can you help us out with a little more information:
• What model number subwoofer do you have?
• Where did you purchase it from?
• What enclosure do you have it in (sealed/vented/tuning frequency)?
• What model number amplifier is powering the subwoofer?
Im thinking of pairing a PRIME R750-1D to a pair of PUNCH P1S2-15's in parallel. How well do you think that would perform?
Very well
I’m running 2 p1 10”s in a ported custom box with a alpine mrv500 amp. For 500 watts them things bang.
Great to hear Bendan! Thanks for sharing your experience with other audio Fanatics!
I have decent electrical in my car 1/0 cabling second battery and just purchased two twelves t1 twelves I tried them out with a fosgate 500.1 aswell as a massive 1500.1 and think they sound pretty much the same. Can I run more power to them
The Power T1 12" subwoofer is designed to handle 800W continuously. If you drive more power to them, you'll likely burn the voice coils. You can see all the specs here: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t1d212/
Good day I purchased this speaker in enclosure on amazon and the front suspension was dry rotted when received. I contacted the seller and they agreed to accept the return however my local shipper cannot ship due to restrictions. Shipping with dhl or fedex is costing almost the cost of what was paid for the item. Is there a kit of any sort to have this repaired as to avoid my loss?
Hi Laurie, Unfortunately no, this sounds like a package that someone built and selling on their own. Also, the only Authorized Amazon dealer are listings by sold by Rockford Fosgate, LLC. All other sellers are unauthorized and notorious for selling old merchandise as new. For more info, please look at our DO NOT BUY list on our Dealer Locator: www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealerlocator/
Rockford Fosgate this does not help though. Is there a replacement kit for it so I can have it repaired.
@@LaurieBenjamin I'm sorry, we don't offer repair kits for our subwoofers because we typically replace the entire subwoofer under warranty. I would have the seller ship you a replacement subwoofer (no enclosure) on his charge since they sold you a product that was dry rotted.
@@LaurieBenjamin you can get a foam repair kit from simply speakers.
Hi- I ve built a fiberglass subwoofer closed enclosure and planned to mount the Punch 10" P2 subwoofer in it. The thing is that the enclosure came out a volume of about 35 liters . Will the bigger enclosure degrade the sound of subwoofer?. I do not want to mount a 12" sub as it wont fit stealth in the trunk.
The P2D4-10 is recommended at 0.59 cu. ft. (16.7 liters) sealed or 1.40 ft. (39.6 liters) vented. If you plan on running it sealed, you will have better low frequency response, but your mechanical power handling will be lower. If you decide to port it, your vent will be very long. Depending upon what you decide to do, contact our technical support at rftech.custhelp.com for the the max power you can apply to a sealed box, or the vent diameter and length for a vented box.
Which 8” subwoofer would you recommend for a 92 Lexus Sc400 without a box in the original center back position? Thank you for your help. It seems like it needs a free air speaker. Bass sounds loose and poppy.
Hi bsrodeo7s, so you have existing 8" Rockford Fosgate subwoofers in an enclosure now? Which way in the enclosure facing? If they are "popping" this may be due to over-excursion. A single 8" may not provide enough bass you're expecting out of it.
I just tested (2) T112D2 (2004 model) vs (2) P3D2-12 (current model) and there was very little difference, with both sets running 600w RMS. Did the Punch series improve THAT much?
read: very little difference = no discernible difference in SPL
Hi Screaminggiraffe, The T112D2 is rated to handle 600W RMS and the P312D2 is rated to handle 500W RMS. The sensitivity is 86 dB (T112D2) and 87 dB (P312D2) respectively. Assuming both used the exact same enclosure and the same power (as you noted), we wouldn't expect any huge difference. In a side-by-side comparison, you'll need to have at least 1 dB difference to hear even the SLIGHTEST difference. Now this is a theoretical position, we're not saying it's O.K. to do this because you'll blow up your subs... but in order to hear a noticeable difference, you'll need to double your cone area or double your power input. That would provide a 3dB increase which would be a noticeable upgrade.
Thank you - I'll remove the T112D2 subwoofers from my setup and just stick with the P3D2-12.
Now they have brands like sundown audio Dc audio aound digital they are very very cheap and they may get wayyyyyy louder dan any rockfordfosgate products.. BUT how long will they last?😂 i started with rockford subs and amps and i will always buy them.just think about it do u need more beefy sorounding ruber or do u need more cone area? Wich makes more sence? I would atick with more cone area.. keep it up rockford..
Thanks Naiem! The difference is Rockford Fosgate engineers focus on the performance of the subwoofer with an emphasis on Sound Quality ... we're not gluing multiple spiders together to prevent the speaker from breaking while trying to reproduce a narrow band of frequencies. In other words, Rockford Fosgate designs subwoofers right to begin with. The biggest complement we consistently hear when someone switches from one of those brands to Rockford Fosgate is "These subs sound so musical." Naiem, keep spreading the word and together we'll help save our friends from bad sounding car audio!
Rockford Fosgate definitely agree I’ve had numerous of subs from not so mainstream brands like re audio etc.. currently have some alpine type r’s and their good but I leaning toward some fosgate p3’s.
Don't get me wrong, I love Rockford Fosgate and I use their products all the time. But I equally love Sundown products as well--now, Rockford Fosgate products, I can push a tiny bit more power to them than they are rated for, and be comfortable with it in the right box/enclosure. But I wouldn't want to do that all the time. RF products are made to do what they say they are made to do; they aren't like Sundown speakers where you can throw as much wattage as possible at them and you know they'll last. RF speakers are purposely made to do their ratings and not more than that, and that's good. It makes it very easy to build boxes to spec without worrying about "what if I give it too much wattage?" Sundowns however are made for POWER... and BEEFY, HEAVY speakers, that can probably easily do 25-30% more power in RMS than they are rated for and be perfectly fine. This isn't because they are badly marketed, but more or less because they are underrated. Which can have downsides but also plus sides. I do however commend RF for making their speakers and products not overrated, but also not underrated like other brands. It's a sweet mix of right-in-the-middle. You don't get underrated products like Sundown, and you don't get overrated products like Boss, Dual, Pyle, Alpine (more or less my opinion for Alpine), etc.
That's why I'm looking at the big names. I had 2 Orion xtr 2 12s for 18 years. Now I got a alpine type s 12. I'm not happy with it though.
@@QuietWind01 dude I've had my 1 P3 hooked up to a Skar RP 1200.1 for 2 years with zero problems, they can definitely handle more than they're rated
Bought my first rockford fosgate products few months ago, 2x 15p3 with the prime 1200.1 this set up hits hard. Thinking of upgrading the woofers, any advice on which t1 or t2? Still keeping the amp.
The P3 subwoofer is our most popular in the line, so that's a really good setup you have there. If you upgrade the subwoofers you would need to go from a 600W (P3) to an 800-1200W (T1) and double your amplifier power (add a secondary R2-1200X1) for it to be noticeable. Otherwise, simply switching subwoofers wouldn't gain you much difference.
@@rockfordfosgate yeah I'll double the amp but the birth certificate for my amp say it's 1425watts at 1ohm.
@@Jayty676 Yes, you have a pretty powerful amplifier and subwoofer setup. Simply switching from P3 to T1 subwoofers isn't really going to change much, so there are many factors to consider. Check out the "Speaker Power Handling" video I made with some good info that may help: ruclips.net/video/uaGlb9SymdI/видео.html
i already installed the prime R165-S kit in my car and im thinking of buying single prime R1S4-12 with a 180 watt rms amp. or should i buy a 240 watt rms amp? i dont want to overpowering bass cause i only have 2 door speakers running on aftermarket headunit, nice taste in music btw
Hi Thompa! The Prime R165-S speakers are great performers and rated to handle 40W RMS. A single R1S4-12 subwoofer would be the perfect addition rated to handle 200W RMS. You can match the subwoofer with an R150X2 bridged to produce 150W @ 4-ohms (a good matchup). Another option is switching the front speakers from the source unit to the front channels of an R250X4 which would produce 40W RMS stereo. The rear channels of the R250X4 could then be bridged to the subwoofer to produce 125W @ 4-ohms. Either scenario would provide a good balance of mids & highs to bass ratio.
Rockford Fosgate The P3d2-15 rated @ 600w it will be a perfect fit for a RF-P1000x5 in the 5ch that its rated @ 1 ohm 500w?
I have two 15 P3s, each on their own Punch P1000 amp. But my magnets shifted and destroyed the voice coils on both. Would I notice a big difference if upgraded to 2 T1s in the same box (ported, recommend enclosure size for both) on the same amps, or am I better just getting another set of P3s ?
The Punch P1000X1bd is rated to produce 1000 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm RMS and up to 1,430 Watts Dynamic. The P3D2-15 are only rated to handle 600 Watts RMS. Since the T1D215 are rated to handle 1000 Watts RMS they are a better match for that amplifier.
Question. I'm putting T2652-S component speaker kits in all 4 doors in my double cab silverado wired to a 4 output 400 watt amp from you guys I'm also putting 2 powered ps8s under front seats and 2 t1s2-10s under back seat with a custom box wired to a t10001bd amp. I will be using 10 farad capacitor along with xp3400 additional battery under the hood with a 500amp isolater. I'm also putting in a Axxess AXDSPX-GM31 What can I expect from this system?
I have 2 different boxes coming they are both downfire type boxes one is ported one is sealed. Which do you recommend?
@@codylee5466 The box types completely depend upon the internal volume. I would suggest calling our technical support with the Vb (and Fb of the vented enclosure) so they can suggest which is the better enclosure to use.
As for the entire system, it sounds well matched and should provide great sound quality!
Just got some p3s im getting installed tomorrow
Awesome Chris! Thanks for using Rockford Fosgate in your ride.
These are dope! 2004 town car 2 12" P3s I have been out of the game for a minute its good to see 20 years later Fosgate still pushing great products
@@christophemcluvin1613 Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience with other Car Audio Fanatics!
so which one is powerful better as seen on here yall tell me left middle or right i used to have the middle one
It's not a matter of which one is more "powerful", but rather which one can handle more power. The Power Series (right) can withstand the most amount of power, the Punch Series (middle) can handle a high amount of power, and the Prime Series (left) can handle low-to-moderate power levels.
Hello, I recently got back into Audio and bought an old school Solo Baric 12" with a ported box and a Punch amplifier, The bass is very Muddy and insecuate due to the ported box. I was recommended to go with 3 10" in a sealed box for a more SQ experience. I have a RF BD1500 amp to play with and was looking for lots of Bass but also accurate, which Subwoofer would you recommend for a SQ setup?
Quality of bass mostly has to do with the type of subwoofer used combined with the enclosure design. The Rockford Fosgate Power bd1500.1 produces 1500W x 1 @ 2-ohms, but unfortunately, 3 subwoofers (regardless of what you get) will not create a 2-ohm load. Specifically, why were you recommended 3 subwoofers? Was this simply based upon the airspace available? We typically work backwards to find how much available airspace there is to work with, then select a subwoofer model, size, and quantity best optimized for that space. It may worth calling our technical support so they can discuss the various options with you. I'd like you to have good bass, so instead of taking a stab in the dark to see if a different type of system might work, let's have our technical guys recommend the best option for you and your vehicle. They can be reached at 1-800-669-9899 or live chat at www.rockfordfsogate.com
I'm getting ready to put a T1D210 and a Skar amp in my new car. I'm suuuuper excited. Just waiting on the sub and the LOC I ordered to get here and I'm good to go. I don't want to rattle my teeth out so I'm just going with the one... for now lol
Awesome, Mike! The T1D210 is an fantastic subwoofer rated to handle 600 Watts RMS / 1,200 Watts Max. To prevent burning the voice coil, keep the power applied to 600 Watts or less since the peak value is based on musical transients.
Hey Rockford fosgate Quick question do I Break in the punch series subwoofer or can I go full volume?
It's always best to give any subwoofer some "break in" time to normalize the resonant frequency and sound quality. You're free to hammer it, but I never go "full volume" on any system because that's typically when you start burning voice coils.
Attend bbox ported dual 10in subwoofer box
Model number-10SPLDV
Hey Rockford here my q so I have a dual 10in ported box that’s net cubic feet per subwoofer is 2.25 cubic ft and the 10in punch p1s4 recommends 1.4 so is my box to big or Will it be OK in the enclosure with right power to then I know you can little bigger with The enclosure
Thanks for that information! Looks like the 10SPLDV - 10" Dual SPL Vented Enclosure has a box volume of 1.35 cubic feet (per chamber). Do I have the right part number? atrendusa.com/products/10spldv-10-dual-vented-spl-carpeted
Yup, the P1S4-10 is recommended for 1.4 cu. ft. in a vented enclosure tuned to 32 Hz. I'm not sure what the 10SPLDV is tuned to (doesn't say on their website), but you definitely have the right box volume. It's only 0.05 cu. ft. off, so you should be good to go!
@@rockfordfosgate thanks guys I appreciate it
@@rockfordfosgate yes you got it right
@@extendedraven7893 Alright, great! You should be rockin' with that enclosure. The post looks long, so it should be tuned reasonably low. If you like, you can always call our Technical Support on Tuesday (Monday is a holiday) with the box volume (1.35 cu. ft.) and the port opening (H x W x D) and they can run the calculation backwards to determine the tuning frequency.
@@extendedraven7893 You got it Raven! Good luck on the installation. Thanks for being a Rockford Fosgate fanatic!
I’m putting one P3 12 into my jeep. Which would be a better amp to pair with it? The 500w punch amp or the 750w prime amp?
If you're doing a single P3 12", hopefully it's the P3D2-12 so you can wire it to a 1Ω load. At 600W power handling, either amplifier will work well, but I prefer the Punch model since it's Class-BD, so you'll have a little better sounding bass with it. If you're doing a ported enclosure (which I recommend), be sure to engage the Infrasonic Filter to prevent ultra-low (inaudible) frequencies from damaging the subwoofer.
Punch P500X1bd
Rated: 500 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
Dynamic: 787 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
Prime R2-750X1
Rated: 750 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω
Dynamic: 830 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω
brands ever change their designed look or do they have a certain many of years They don’t change it. The look of there subwoofers Seem like nobody has come out with new look in years. don’t get me wrong. I love my P1 design i’m just curious if you all ever thought about changing to new look.
These are the 3rd generation of the P1, P2, P3 lines, each going under a major design overhaul. What would you like to see?
@@rockfordfosgate don’t know that thank for the info but like to see diff color design or whole new design hasn’t the third GEN been out for a bit but Rockford fosgate is still the best
@@extendedraven7893 Yes, the Gen-3 Punch subwoofers have been out for a few years, yet are still 5-10 years ahead of competitors. We have experimented with colors in red, gray & black with most fanatics choosing the black models. Do you have a specific color design you were thinking about?
@@rockfordfosgate maybe red n black or blue n yellow I think would be cool but then again might be ugly seeing it in person lol but you never know
@@extendedraven7893 Great! Thanks for your detailed feedback and thanks for being a Fanatic!
Yea but sundown will get really low like a bunch of floping air . All these do is hit hard and sound really good doing it and last forever. Lol! Rockford fosgate has always made quality products.
Thanks for your feedback! Rockford Fosgate takes pride in the engineering we put into our subwoofers that result in Sound Quality Bass.
So whats the best for all around music, but also will beat hard . I drive a little 94 honda civic hatchback I've been using a alpine type s 12 for a year. I'm looking to upgrade this year. I'm redoing my electrical. Alternator and the big 3 . not that my last set up needed it .
Great question Gavin, the advantage of Rockford Fosgate subwoofers is their ability to reproduce all bass frequencies, not just a 60Hz "whomp, whomp". So, in other words, you'll be hearing ALL your music. Our most popular subwoofer for all types of music is the Punch P3 subwoofer line. It has a great frequency response at an attainable price. You can find all the Punch P3 subwoofers here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/selector/mobile-subwoofers/
Is Bryan still running the assembly line cell,(solder wave, Distrete Surface Mount and final test) at the Tempe plant? What about Andy?
Bryan Sofge and Andy Keener? They left quite a long time ago. I was the signal processor technician until moving into RTTI around 1996/1997.
I love my p3’s
Is the jump from 2 p3 to 2 t1 with double the price? Hoping to hear from Rockford
What model P3 and T1 are you referring to? Are you switching from the P3S (Shallow) 12" to the T1 12" slim woofer? Generally speaking, as you move up in the line, you improve your power handling capacity.
@@rockfordfosgate just the regular p3 12 and t1 12. I know the p3s are rated 600 rms and the t1s are 800. I’m just wondering if the extra 400 watts of power is worth the jump in price.
@@IDOOOOOIT You're looking at a nominal improvement at around +2dB difference. Technically, you'll need to double your "cone area" or "power applied" in order to hear a +3dB increase, which would be noticeable.
@@rockfordfosgate thank you. I appreciate the honesty and not trying to sell me on a nominal difference.
For an average guy like myself little knowledge of subwoofers, which would he recommended for a long lasting smooth punch subwoofer?
All Rockford Fosgate subwoofers are designed for Sound Quality, so any driver you choose will produce awesome sounding bass. Our most popular model is the Punch P3 subwoofer because it has all the performance you expect from Rockford Fosgate with the highest power handing in the Punch line-up.
@@rockfordfosgate thank you I’ll look it up for my next purchase.
Hello. Is a daul 2 ohm a 4 ohm because it has four terminals? And if you have to punch 500 rms p3 10s is it do you recommend a 2 Chanel 1000 watt punch amp? Or does it have to a mono amp?
A dual-2-ohm subwoofer has two voice coils, each with it's own pair of (+) and (-) terminals. Use our Woofer WiringWizard to see how a dual voice coil subwoofer can be wired to create different impedances: www.rockfordfosgate.com/support/wiringwizard.aspx
For the P3 subwoofers, you can use whatever amplifier you choose, assuming it can play the frequencies needed for the speaker. Also, be certain not to exceed the RMS power ratings of the subwoofer to prevent from burning the voice coils.
Thank you sir
How the he’ll do you remove the dust cap on the latest P3 10? I have a month old wonder that’s rattling and it sounds like the voice coil former is unglued. This is such a disappointment and I didn’t buy it a a RF dealer so no warranty. This is also a common pro blend I’m reading. The sub literally looks brand new and was never over powered and gains were set with a scope.
If the subwoofer is literally brand new, take it back to the dealer you purchased it from and ask for a warranty replacement.
Why didn't you guys review my Rockford Fosgate T2 13 inch
Hi Cherokee Off-Road, these dealer training videos were made before the 3rd generation T2 13"/16" and T3 19" subwoofers were released. However, we created technology overview videos for the new woofers here: ruclips.net/video/dXe8E97ZE0o/видео.html
@@rockfordfosgate thanks for the response i was unaware love my T2
@@cherokeeoff-road2158 Thank you for being a Rockford Fosgate fanatic! The T2 is a great Sound Quality subwoofer that definitely brings all the girls to your car!
@@rockfordfosgate do you guys sell rubber surrounds for the T2 cause mine has a cut in it now :/
Don’t be fooled, the P1 (aka prime series) absolutely kicks! My friend has a single 12 inch P1 sub in the loaded enclosure that fosgate also sells them in, wired it to his factory amp on his murdered out Range Rover and yes it’s limited by that amp and dumb software that controls it being confused at the load but even so it flexes his windows and defiantly can feel it even outside the SUV cranked up. They sell a dual enclosure, his factory amp fail safes sometimes with dual 12 inch P1’s kicking.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience with other fanatics!
For others reading this, the P1 is a Punch Series subwoofer and the models that are sold as individual drivers are the exact same models used in single woofer and dual woofer "Loaded Enclosure" systems.
@@rockfordfosgate oh that makes sense! Can you help me understand more about your door speakers a bit more?
Specifically the R165x vs P1650 Vs. T1650 vs P165-SI for example. Like I worked out the 65 = 6.5 inch.. but what does each letter indicate? R seems to indicate lower end.. but otherwise I don’t understand it..
@@Honeypot-x9s Ah, yes, it's a little confusing because six-inch speakers are the wild-west of sizing descriptions. Typically here's the rundown:
[R] is Prime (good)
[P] is Punch (better)
[T] is Power (best)
• R165X = Prime 6.50" coax
• P16 = Punch 6.00" coax
• P1650 = Punch 6.50" coax
• P1675 = Punch 6.75" coax
• P165-SI = Punch 6.50" System (separate tweeter & midrange) w/ Internal crossover
• P165-SE = Punch 6.50" System (separate tweeter & midrange) w/ External crossover
@@rockfordfosgate wow thanks, that does really help me understand much better than otherwise explained to me.
@@Honeypot-x9s Great! Glad we could help.
Is the rockford t1500 amp strong enough to push 2 12t1 hard to there full strength?
Yes, absolutely. The T1500-1bdCP is rated to produce 1500 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm, with Dynamic Power up to 1715 Watts x 1. If you use two T1D412 subs, you can wire them to 1-ohm. They can handle up to 800 Watts RMS each, so 2 will provide up to 1600 Watts power handling capacity.
hey i have two p2 12s was planning on running them with a pioneer 9601 at 1 ohm and the amp is said to push 1200rms.will they handle the 1200rms just fine considering they do more than rated or its going to be too much for them?
Hi Charlie, Thanks for your inquiry. Assuming you have two of the P2D4-12 models since wiring them would create a 1-ohm load. Those subwoofers are rated to handle up to 400W RMS, so you'll have 800 Watts of power handling capacity. Is this the Pioneer GM-D9601 model you're referring to? If so, the specs show continuous power output at 1,200 W x 1 @ 1-ohm, so you'll be over-powering the subwoofers by 400 watts. We would suggest stepping up to the P3D4-12 subwoofers since they are rated to handle 600W each, so two would give you the proper 1,200W total power handling capacity.
@@rockfordfosgate ooh ok how about the lightning audio l11000d
@@charliemilan4892 The L110000 is rated at 1000W x 1 @ 1-ohm. You need to move up from the P2 to the P3 subwoofers if you want to run that much power. If you use those big amplifiers on P2 subwoofers, you'll smoke 'em in no time.
well noted then i will jist use the pioneer 8601 which does 800 rms at 1 ohm
@@charliemilan4892 O.K. yes, that amplifier looks better at 800W @ 1-ohm:
www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Amplifiers/GM+Digital+Series/GM-D8601#specs
hello, I was looking at P1 and P2 10's, what is the difference between those 2, the p2 only handle 50w more each, so Im a little confused, thanks for your feedback.
Yes, they are very close. The performance is very similar, so the major difference is the power increase from 250W to 300W RMS and you go from a Single Voice Coil to a Dual Voice Coil.
Rockford Fosgate so what would you guys recommend, the p1’s with a mono 500w amp (2 10’s) or p2’s with a mono 600w amp( 2 10’s), i have a seperate 4 channel amp for my mids and highs that puts out 80 X 2 and 60 X 2
Depends on how much SPL you want. the P2's with a little more power handling will give you slightly more output. We just suggest keeping the amplifier power just under the power handling capacity of the subwoofers so you don't blow them up.
Doing my research cause my buddy just gave me a free rockford fosgate r1 do y'all know if there any good?
R1 amplifiers are a great value featuring Rockford Fosgate performance. What model R1 do you have?
Neodymium Magnet or Barium
Ferrite used in this speaker can you tell me
All subwoofers use Ferrite, but the Power Slim 10" / 12" and the T3 19" Superwoofers use Neodymium
Im haveing 1 rockfordfosgate t1 . And a 1200 watt rockford amp. Installed in my fusion 2014 hybrid
Hey Gilbert, that's a great subwoofer. It should pound in your ride. That's a lot of power, so if you need help setting your amp gains, contact our support specialists at 1-800-669-9899 Mon-Fri 8am-5pm MST.
Is my Power T600-2 too much power for a P1 10" subwoofer on each channel?
I believe I have 2 4-ohm P1s
The Power T600-2 is rated to produce 200 Watts x 2 @ 4-Ohm, 300 Watts x 2 @ 2-Ohm, and 600 Watts x 1 @ 4-Ohm Bridged. The P1S4-10 is rated to handle 250 Watts RMS. So if you're going to wire 1 subwoofer per channel in stereo mode, you'll be totally fine.
deciding between p3 12 or the t1 12 , I'm unsure as to wether the t1 is better sq then the p3 . looking to get the best overall but I don't want to lose sound quality for spl . so will the t1 sound better and louder or just louder ?
I believe the t1 will be louder
@@semikotyrell6901 I purchased both , t1 is cleaner
Sorry about missing your original question Brandon. All Rockford Fosgate subwoofers are designed for Sound Quality, so any model will work fine in the recommended enclosures.
@@rockfordfosgate so I've ran the t1 up against the p3 , and I can't justify the t1 over the p3 . I am running the p3 on 600 rms amp and the t1 is pushed by a 1000 rms amp . should the t1 be louder then the p3 ? or is it just a different sound . as of right now I'm really thinking I should have stuck with my p3 and just purchased a second p3
@@brandonseiter5471 When comparing subwoofers side by side, you need to compare cone area (Sd), speaker sensitivity (SPL), and power applied (Watts). Doubling cone area (Sd) or Power Applied (Watts) will result in only +3dB more output, or 1.23 times louder. A four times increase would result in +6dB more output, or 1.52 times louder. You would need to increase the output to +10dB in order to get 2.0 times (double) the loudness.
As you can see, if you're literally comparing side by side, you'll need to go from 1 to 2 subwoofers or twice as much power (+3dB) just to to hear any noticeable difference in loudness. Both the P3 12" and T1 12" are rated at 85 dB and the difference in cone area is only 22 cm2, so essentially powering them with the same amplifier would result in no real difference in output. However, since you're powering the P3 with 600W and the T1 with 1000, this calculates into only a 2.2 dB increase. In other words, comparing the P3 against the T1 in your scenario, the average person would hear little difference.
I have 2 Fosgate Power T1000.1BD amps...am I able to run (4) P3 12” subs adequately?
Depends on what impedance your P3 12" subwoofers are... What model number are they?
I currently have two P3 12s with the 1200W amp and have been considering purchasing the T1 12s with the 1500w amp. Is there any significant difference between the two subwoofers?
Sound quality wise they are very similar. The major difference is the higher power handling. The practical side of this is you may not see much of a difference since you'll theoretically need to double your cone area or double your power applied (assuming the subs could handle it) in order to get a +3dB increase that would be noticeable.
@@rockfordfosgate I'm confused as to what is the point of the t1 ? if its almost double the price point of the p3 . why is it in the line up if you don't really see a noticeable difference ?
@@brandonseiter5471 Because many fanatics start at the higher performing (Power) series. If there wasn’t a T1, you would be jumping into [an equivalent] to a T2 model that’s rated around 2kW. However, in your situation, comparing the P3 to a T1 is similar to comparing the P2 to a P3. It’s a marginal difference.
@@rockfordfosgate thanks for the reply
And if a Rockford fosgate t1500 bdcp with be able to push 2 t1 without clipping issues
Yes you can. You just want to make sure you don't exceed the RMS Power ratings of the subwoofer, so I'm not 100% sure what T1 subwoofer you're referring to, but if you're using the 15" or 12" standard sized subwoofers, you should be fine:
T1D215: 1,000W RMS
T1D212: 800W RMS
T1D210: 600W RMS
T1S1-12: 600W RMS
T1S1-10: 500W RMS
I got 2 p3 12s behind 2 p2 12s in my fusion and I’m looking to upgrade to the 13 or 16 Single sub
Hi Gps jb, I'd like for you to consider the "cone area" vs. power applied to your scenario, to see if it meets your expectations:
The P2D2-12 / P2D4-12 subwoofer have an Sd = 570 cm^2 (1,142 cm^2 cone area) and rated at 400 Watts RMS, so you can apply 800W to both of them. Moving to the T2S1-13 / T2S2-13 will provide an Sd = 707 cm^2 and is rated at 2000 Watts RMS. If you used the T2S1-16 / T2S2-16 it would provide an Sd = 1,034 and is rated at 2500 Watts RMS.
Moving to a single 13" will give you 435 cm^2 less cone area, but you can apply 1,200 more Watts. Without plotting an SPL estimate, we can guess this would provide a negligible SPL difference.
Moving to a single 16" will give you 108 cm^2 less cone area, but you can apply 1,700 more Watts. Without plotting an SPL estimate, we can guess this would provide a small SPL increase.
Consider a +3dB Increase is 1.23x the perceived loudness, so you theoretically need 2x the amplifier power or twice the cone area (increase from 2 to 4 subwoofers.) A +6dB increase is 1.5 times perceived loudness, so you would need 4x the amplifier power or quadruple the cone area (increase to 8 subwoofers.) A +10dB increase is twice as loud, you would need 10x the amplifier power or increase to 20 subwoofers).
Hello I was wondering what type of amt I need for the p3d4 2 12inch I'm new to car audio
If you're using a single P3D4-12 subwoofer, it is rated to handle 600 Watts RMS and can be wired to a 2-ohm load. These amplifiers will work great:
• R2-500X1: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/r2-500x1/
• P300X1: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p300x1/
I recommend a Rockford fosgate t500.1bdcp. Or a t1000.1bdcp and u will have room to upgrade later if u go with the 1000 watt model.
Still using my original punch 12s from 92.
That's awesome ...yeah, keeping the power within the subwoofer's RMS Power Rating will make them last a very long time!
Glad they are still bumpin' hard!
Yes, just running my trusty ppi 2150am bridged to 2 individual sealed 12s and left right mono up front with the old school original rockford tweeters in the dash and separate 3 or 4 inch mid and 6.5 inch midbass in each door. Wish you still made the separate mids and the old school canned hams for rear fill. That old school combo of tweeter, mid and midbass was so clean and powerful sounding.
@@koprcord5338 That's awesome! I use the 5.25" component system in my car, allowing you to separate the tweeter and midrange for optimal installation. We do sell the Punch Pro mid-bass, midrange and tweeters as individuals if that's an option for you.
@@rockfordfosgate cool, just getting back into the hobby in time to put a system in my son's car. Already have 2 refreshed old school 150s. Unfortunately there are no reputable old school installers around in fort collins, not even a rockford dealer. In the 90s in Denver quality auto sound was the place to go but they must have changed owners and no longer rep rockford.
@@koprcord5338 Looks like the closest to 80525 is Xtreme Auto Soundz as listed below. Funny ... Rick Jones works here now that headed up the installation bay at Quality Auto Sound in Denver ... small world!
XTREME AUTO SOUNDZ
10300 Washington ST
Thornton, Colorado 80229
303.249.5312
xtremeautosoundz.com/
I'm running 2 p3 10s on a 1200w.. but after seeing this video lol I want more. About to put my 6.5s in my doors
You're ride is already rockin'... soon it will be bangin'!
Ras, by chance is it a 1200.1 fosgate? I recently bought the 1200.1 and was absolutely thrilled with it. And its watts are actually higher per ohm load, the dyno is incredible for it. I'm currently not running it right now as I have used my older 1000 watt fosgate from the 90s and it beats the absolute hell out of my p3s. I'm going to have to get a set of t1s or t2s to get what I want.
Im using t2500 and bought 2 units of t1d412 what wire gauge do i use and what ohm should i run it?
Hi Rejiv, In your other post you asked about running one T1D412. If you are running two T1D412 , they will provide up to 1600 Watts power handling (800 Watts RMS each). Since the T2500-1bdCP produces too much power, I would suggest running the subwoofers in series/parallel to create a 4-ohm load. Although it's rated to produce 1500 Watts x 1 @ 4-Ohm, dynamic power output is 1823 Watts x 1 @ 4-Ohm, so that is a better match-up. Use at least 12 AWG for the subwoofer wiring and 1/0 AWG for the B+ and GND.
@@rockfordfosgate end up buying 2 units of it... used single sub of p3d412 on my punch amp... so done using 1 unit of sub... plan to feel 2 unit of sub.... im planing to put the sub face inside the car.. using mitsubishi lancer.. ported box with hole in the middle facing inside the car too... i just havent install my subwoofer and amp... soon to be install in next week..
this my current setup in my Mitsubishi Lancer GTS ;
Headunit : Kenwood DDX918WS
Front door : Power 6.75" Series Component System T1675-S
Rear door : Power 6.75" 2-Way Full-Range Speaker T1675
Channel amp : Power 600 Watt 4-Channel Amplifier T600-4
Subwoofer amp : Power 2500 Watt Class-bd Constant Power Amplifier T2500-1bdCP
Subwoofer : Power 12" T1 2-Ohm DVC Subwoofer
T1D212
@@rejivshankar242 Very nice setup. You may find in the Mitsubishi Lancer that firing the subwoofers toward the rear license plate may produce better bass due to the acoustics. This is because the subwoofers have more air to compress rather than firing into the rear seats.
Rockford Fosgate thank you... when my sound system is done... will do an video of it...
That's great@@rejivshankar242! Would love to see how it turns out!
So I have to ask, is a prime 1200.1 @ 1 ohm to much power on two p3 tens?
Punch level 3/4 and the gain turned about a quarter
@@billyjeepus824 The Remote Punch Level takes over for the internal Gain control, and neither of them control the amount of "power" the amplifier produces, just how quickly that power level is achieved. The P3D4-10 are rated to handle up to 500 Watts RMS, so two would provide 1,000 Watts RMS power handling. If you run the system average-to-hard, yes you will likely smoke those voice coils because the R1200-1D is rated to produce 1,200 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm with Dynamic power up to 1,400 Watts.
@@rockfordfosgate so how would you tune this set up
@@rockfordfosgate and how long do you think it would take to smoke them, I love testing Rockfords capabilities as you guys have had such incredible products, I've been running these subs for nearly a year at 1 ohm
@@billyjeepus824 Hard to say because it's 100% on how they are being driven. Technically, applying more continuous power than the RMS rating is exceeding the design.
Looking to buy a SINGLE 12 Rockford Fosgate T1 Series and I plan on buying The Rockford Fosgate T1000-1BDCP..would that Amplifier be SAFE on pushing The SINGLE 12?, some advisors from crutchfield say it will be safe and some say it will be too much for it, so I’m confused since the ones say it will be safe cause the amps are underrated..also I have seen a few ppl push that single sub fine with the full potential watts that amp gives it just trying to make sure it’s for sure safe from an expert and experience from you guys. Thank you
Itll handle it just fine dude
logan smith yea I went to a local shop that sells Rockford Fosgate systems and he said the same thing cause I have 2 p3 12s running on a Rockford Fosgate T1000-1BDCP AMPLIFIER but I want something more deeper bass and hits lower notes..thnx for replying much appreciated!
First, what model T1 subwoofer are you referring to? We have 3 generations of "T1" subwoofer, including the "slim" models that all have different power handling ratings. Also what size of "T1"? The exact model number will help us with the proper answer.
Rockford Fosgate “T1D212” 800RMS-1600MAX THE ORIGINAL SUBWOOFER THE ONE IN THE VIDEO
Rockford Fosgate how about the T2 13” non slim..what amp do you recommend to get to full potential for a single subwoofer
Why did you guys stop selling the T0 series they were a really good sub at a decent price not gotta pay alot
The T0 Series is an exceptional subwoofer, bringing together standout features from our Punch and Power Series. While it’s a fantastic option, our sales insights showed that most enthusiasts leaned toward either the flagship Punch P3 or opted to move up to the Power T1.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome!
Great video!
hey rockford would you advice someone to go with 2 p2s or one t1 12 since both setups have same rms .im looking for deep and loud bass
Hi Charlie, assuming both have the same RMS, two P2 12" would produce +3 dB more output because you have double the cone area as a single T1 12".
@@rockfordfosgate ok so its better to go with 2 p2s?
@@charliemilan4892 If you are never going to upgrade the power, then yes, go with the P2 series. Keep in mind they are rated to handle up to 400 Watts RMS, so the biggest amplifier size you'll want is 800 Watts since you'll have 2 of them.
well the p2s im getting are both d2 im planning on pushing them with a kenwood 9105 which is 2ohm stable and gives a total of 900rms .will it be too much for them considering its jus 50 rms extra on each sub?
@@charliemilan4892 Thanks for your detailed follow-up with model numbers! That looks like a pretty good match, assuming you operate the system at normal listening levels. If you're going to absolutely beat the hell out of these subwoofers, then I would say it's too much power. Be sure to setup the gain properly we have a tutorial here that has 3 options: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/46
Looking to do a single 12 setup tryna device between a p3 or alpine type r
We hear from fanatics that the P3 has a better frequency response. In their words, it's "more musical".
Hope you got the P3 over type r
I’m using p3d412 on my prime 500.1d monoblock? Is underpower?
Hi Rejiv, The older P3D412 is rated to handle 500 Watts RMS. A single woofer can be wired to create a 2-ohm load. Do you mean the Prime R500-1D? This is rated to produce 500x1 @ 2 ohms, but can dynamically produce up to 580 Watts x 1 @ 2-Ohms. In my view, this is a perfect match.
P3D412 - www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p3d412/
R500-1D - www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/R500-1D/
@@rockfordfosgate its the new one p3d412. Yes its r500.1d.
The P3D4-12 is rated to handle 600W so you're still matched perfectly.
P3D4-12 - www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p3d4-12/
What kind of warranty does a Rockford T1 12 come with?
All speakers and subwoofers come with a 1 Year Warranty. Be sure to match your amplifier power to the subwoofer's RMS Power Ratings because typically, burned voice coils are not covered under warranty.
@@rockfordfosgate I just blew mine yesterday. Is there anything you guys could do for me? I loved my T1
@@radianm6 We have a Warranty Claim on our website that covers speakers for 1 year with an Authorized Dealer Receipt and valid Serial Number at: www.rockfordfosgate.com/contact-us/41/
What is the difference between the p2 12 inch sub and the p3 12 inch sub
The main differences:
- The P2 has a poly cone and is rated to handle 400 Watts RMS.
- The P3 has an aluminum cone and is rated to handle 600 Watts RMS.
@@rockfordfosgate ok thank you
How far or how many blocks away can you here the bass from the p3s? I plan on buying a p3 system
The Punch P3 subwoofers hammer and are our best selling subwoofer. Unfortunately, we don't have estimates for "blocks", only how many counties or states you can hear them. Ha Ha. It totally depends on how much power you apply and the type of enclosure you build for them.
@@rockfordfosgate thanks for your reply. I was thinking about hooking up the punch 1000 amp to the p3s that come with the box it comes with on the RF site into my honda pilot
@@reckingball6242 That would be a great match because the P3 Dual Subwoofer enclosure can handle up to 1200 watts, so that amplifier is perfect. My wife has a Honda Pilot and the acoustics in this vehicle will SLAM with that enclosure!
@@rockfordfosgate nice!! Thanks for the info my friend and cant wait to get my system going!!
@@reckingball6242 ever get slamming in that pilot
Before I was listening to music maximum of 20 to 30minutes in my car..after fiixng new component speakers from RF it's only stopping when I switch off the car..loving those speakers...now planning for prime sub also...it's not annoying type like JBL,pioneer,kicker..something is there in RF speakers and woofers..love from India
Aswin, Thank you for sharing your experience with other fanatics! Glad you are having a great sound quality experience.
What is the difference between a T1 and a T0? I am getting a great deal on a T0 12 but the T1 is 100 dollars more and not local..
The T0 and T1 are very close in performance with the main differences being power handling.
T1 12": 800 Watts RMS
T0 12": 700 Watts RMS
T1 10": 600 Watts RMS
T0 10": 550 Watts RMS
Q I’m amp said will it do 2ohms at 1000watts so I’m other Q is if i do 2ohms I’mpedance to my Rockford fosgate p2d2 will it damage my amp? Btw it’s kenwood 1000.1 mono block
Running an amplifier at a 2-ohm impedance doesn't hurt woofers, but the amount of power it generates does hurt them. I'm not sure what size or how many P2D2 subwoofers you have, so I'll assume you have (1) one of the P2D2-12 subwoofers that's rated to handle 400 Watts RMS. In this scenario, yes, 1000 watts would blow up one subwoofer because it's over-powering it by 600 Watts.
Rockford Fosgate I got two of them thanks for replying👍
12in
@@extendedraven7893 O.K. great, so two P2D2-12 subwoofers will give you 800 Watts of power handling. This amplifier will still be too much power, but more importantly, you can only wire them to a 1/2-ohm load, 2-ohm load, or 8-ohm load.
Rockford Fosgate thanks a lot sir
The t1 d4 10 inches have damping heat away ????
Sí, el disipador de calor de amortiguación inductiva Se fija directamente a la parte superior de la estructura del imán para mejorar la eficiencia del sistema al reducir tanto la distorsión como la EMF (fuerza electromagnética). También irradia calor para reducir la temperatura de la bobina móvil.
Wait, isn't the P3's cone made of annodized aluminum as well?
CrystalMeth77 is a winner! All P1 & P2 subwoofers use "Kevlar fiber reinforced paper cone". The P3 is similar in construction with the only exception being the aluminum cone.
Sounds sarcastic but I'll take it. Loving the P3D4-10 right now as it's probably the hardest hitting 10 I've ever heard.
Sorry, we're just making light of our mistake you found in the video. It's our fault, and it wasn't intended to be sound that way.
Rockford Fosgate Nah its cool. you guys made me the loudest 10" sub I've ever heard for an affordable price so don't apologize for it. I've started getting my friends to buy P3 subwoofers from you guys and dealers. And yes expect me to buy another P3 very soon.
@@rockfordfosgate I have a sealed box with a brand new(crappy AutoTek 2000watt Class A-B Amp)with your 2 12" P3's and I want more bump!! This was my VERY FIRST sealed box. It's in my 2014 VW Beetle Turbo. It sounds pretty good but, I'm looking for a ported box and a more powerful amp. The P3's are awesome Subs!! But my last set up was a 15" Tarantula Soundstream in a ported box with a Kenwood 750watt class D amp. And it hit harder then anything I've EVER OWNED!! So I'm trying to get back or BETTER than that. My QUESTION IS... "Would I be better off with ONE P3 12 in a ported box with my same generic Amp, or get a dual 12" ported box and keep the same amp, or ported for one or two and get a stronger amp as well?"
Power T2 vs Punch P2 what's the difference?
Punch P2 uses a poly cone, single spider and 2.25" voice coil (400 Watts RMS on 12")
Power T2 uses an aluminum cone, dual spiders, and 4" voice coil capacity (2000 Watts RMS on 13")
I really would like to know what the difference in the T0, T1, T2, are. I’ve asked a handful of people and nobody has answered me!
Overall the differences is voice coil size and power handling capacity. You get a higher power handling capacity as you increase in product series. The above video covers the T0 subwoofer having IDHS, we have another video that the differences between the T1 & T2: ruclips.net/video/1IN8wggDCY0/видео.html
@@rockfordfosgate hi,i watched the photo and it only showed what the t2 13 and 16 is so i still don't know the difference lol
@@PROATV13rb The main differences is voice coil size and power handling capacity:
T0 10" = 550 Watts RMS
T0 12" = 700 Watts RMS
T1 10" = 600 Watts RMS
T1 12" = 800 Watts RMS
T2 13" = 2000 Watts RMS
T2 16" = 2500 Watts RMS
Was there ever a gold or bronze p3
No, this is caused by extreme exposure to UV rays as the anodized coating is "baked" off and tarnishes the aluminum.
Anyone else like, do I hear deadmau5.
Then go yeah that is deadmau5 in the background lol
Yes its deadmau5