If our public services were amazing paying tax would be a point of pride, the truest form of patriotism. As it stands our hospitals are understaffed and mismanaged, crime, poverty and homelessness are on the increase and our rivers are filled with excrement. It feels bad because we know we've been getting ripped off.
The English voted for all of this, they couldn't shake their love of Tory fascists, toffee nosed eton oilers, hatemongers. Scotland has been warning them for most of my nearly 50 years, but to deaf ears, and accusations of hate. We are all swimming in the mess they made.
Just heard jammed O’Brien at his worst stocking of the fire. Destroys verbally anyone who doesn’t stoke his ego. And do not approve of his complete spreading of discord.
@@aleph8888 and the state was a lot smaller generations before he was born. Thomas Hobbes wrote leviathan a couple centuries before Oliver Wendell Holmes came out with that statement about taxes. And it's not a contradiction, it can be both simultaneously.
Speaking of privilege, in the US, Governor DeSantis’ general counsel, Ryan Newman, was asked to define “woke” and he responded that the term means “the belief there are systemic injustices in... society and the need to address them.” Seems reasonable. And consider the source.
I have been VERY UNHAPPY paying my tax as a full time employee since 2018. Public services have been getting eroded month by month. And my faith in public services is at an all time low. I'm 34, most of my friends are settled and half were in public services but all but 1 has moved countries. Why? The juice is not worth the squeeze in the UK. Mistreatment by the public, coupled with lack of genuine support from upper management = poor work life balance which is not ideal when wanting to raise a family. COVID put 2 more of my friends abroad because the public sentiment went from CLAP EVERY THURSDAY, WHAT A GREAT NHS WE HAVE to LOOK AT THESE IMMIGRANTS WANT MORE MONEY, TAKING JOBS. And it's disgusting. I'm born and bred in the UK but in 12 months, I'll be living part time here because of family. I love this country and what it is. But what it IS now, is such a far cry from the values I was taught growing up, in this very same country. It's crazy how the values have changed.
I love James, I do, but let misguided people speak their mind with fewer interruptions please. It’s not that I think you’re wrong, but people will make fools of themselves if you let them.
Studies in the US and NZ showed that the wealthiest pay single-digit percentages on their wealth increase, at least partially due to an incomplete capital gains tax regime. If anyone knows the UK figures, it may be useful to post it.
Are they exploiting CGT or is their wealth not being realised? CGT only gets triggered when you realise the gain and the wealthy don't tend to do this much anymore.
We will often hear the right-wing quote very high figures of people who are not in/seeking work. What they don't mention is the fact that the majority of the high figure is made of full-time students and retirees.
Not sure why self employed people can pay as little as £3.45 a week in national insurance (a tax) and get access to GP, dentist, hospital, sick pay pension for them and their family whilst going on holiday ,having 2 cars, paying a mortgage etc etc. I used to pay over 300 pounds a month and didn't earn over 40,000. Seems a bit of a joke to me.
I'm not sure you see the point. I'm not attempting to decide and conker. It's simply (like me ha ha) why so many different levels if we all have access to the same NHS, GP, HOSPITAL,DENTIST ETC. None of it ads up without even talking about state pensions.
Self employed get no tax breaks anymore what with class 4 NI, despite the fact they get no sick pay, no holiday pay etc etc. The best way for self employed to protect their income from punative taxation is to set themselves up as a LTD company and then pay themselves minimum wage This covers NI. Then the company gets personal allowance. You get to spend money on car finance ( tax deductable ) even holidays if you can prove it's for a business meeting. You then pay what's left at 19% corporation tax rate. Much better
I know you were a fan, but I love that George Michael was the only one of his cohorts who didn’t emigrate to avoid paying tax! “ money doesn’t meant enough to tell me when I wake up in the morning” he was 24 years old! 💕
Is it not the fact the the private sector have their tenticles interwoven into many of our public services now. The tax payer are now contributing to shareholder profits rathar than going back into the country's coffers. Railways, roads, prison services and water etc. Everything used to work pretty well. Not perfect but OK. Now every sector is falling apart despite paying and and now higher NI compared to 30yrs ago. A real head scratcher for sure.
I am a Brit who has lived in Norway for 12 years and am now a citizen of both countries. I love oaying tax in Norway, the education is brilliant (I don't have children myself), if I want to see a doctor I can see one today, the roads are great as is the public transport. The court and prison system is brilliant. Everything here works almost perfectly. When working in the UK i hate paying tax, becasue nothing works and the more that they tax us there, the worse things get.
I recall IDS quoting the cost of implementing UC (Universal Credit) at £3billion when he announced the change. I stopped looking at the *actual* cost around 6-7yrs ago, and even then it had reached £33billion.
James trying to make us think it’s an honour to part with half of your hard earned and give it to the complete incompetent government to spend in an irresponsible manner. I’m 57 and haven’t in my entire life met anyone who shares his opinion. Trying to make out only 0.7% of people who claim benefits are swinging the lead is incredibly naive but that’s no surprise from a person who’s never really lived in the real world
It isn't anywhere close to half, why are you lying? And the incompetent government you're likely picturing was ruled by the Tories for decades, that is on them. Not on the concept of government.
To be precise and I was slightly wrong, as soon as you earn £125,140 you pay 45% income tax. Which means if you do a 40 hour week, mon-Fri you will take home 22 of those hours, so if its 9am to 5pm, you are donating from 3 pm Wednesday afternoon to 5pm Friday to the government. Do you consider that an honour or do you think it’s a rip off. Let’s not forget that we all pay VAT on pretty much everything we buy at 20%. If you actually think about it are we getting value for money. Yes the tories were terrible but this lot are shaping up to be even worse.
@@Refflog You weren't slightly wrong, you were vastly misrepresenting reality. Which I do believe you're doing on purpose, rather than out of ignorance. You pay 45% on anything you earn over that threshold, not the moment you meet the threshold you pay 45% on everything you earn. Its called a progressive tax. And considering you're provided tons of social services, including infrastructure to be able to get to work in the first place, not it isn't a rip off. If you earn that much, and you're whining about paying near 50% tax on anything you earn over that threshold then you're just being narcissistic.
It's amusing watching him scrabble around looking for new ways not to talk about the mess they are in, and making larger by the day. On today's show ...."Brexit" again
01:50:21 Rod cells do *NOT* "work only at night". It is true that rod cells detect intensity of light and shadow and cone cells detect wavelength and so are responsible for colour perception. {:o:O:} _(Edited for tyops)_
It doesnt matter if the cost of dealing with the small boat people is small financially in the big scheme of things. Tell that to a British Veteran or someone indigenous.
@@DrVictorVasconcelos Pretty much. NYT (?) did an investigation of DJT's tax records. He paid zero tax in 11 of the 18 years they checked. Zero. By contract Bill Gates paid $500m average in those years.
I always thought it ironic that the US Founders liked to use that phrase, while most of the population couldn't vote - and they weren't proposing to allow them to.
Such a dewy-eyed rosy hued sentiment! Tax is a wasteful extortion from people. A permanent secretary engaged in public service- the worst kind of joke.
@@seemaseema9720 you people love to forget about things like roads and clean water. Not to mention, with your unpleasantness I can't imagine you'd last long without the protections afforded by the police and criminal justice system.
@andrew66862 roads and clean water? You literally couldn't have picked 2 worst examples. Our water is barely drinkable, our rivers and beaches are unsafe to bathe and let's not go into the state of our roads...
@@gregchew8225 you must be smart enough to understand that the quality of a service and the necessity of a service are entirely unrelated. But if you think the roads and water would be better with*no* public investment, I have to question your intelligence.
If our public services were amazing paying tax would be a point of pride, the truest form of patriotism. As it stands our hospitals are understaffed and mismanaged, crime, poverty and homelessness are on the increase and our rivers are filled with excrement.
It feels bad because we know we've been getting ripped off.
The English voted for all of this, they couldn't shake their love of Tory fascists, toffee nosed eton oilers, hatemongers. Scotland has been warning them for most of my nearly 50 years, but to deaf ears, and accusations of hate. We are all swimming in the mess they made.
The sewage is the fault of private water companies who make billions every year!
Beat me to it.
Well said
Just heard jammed O’Brien at his worst stocking of the fire. Destroys verbally anyone who doesn’t stoke his ego. And do not approve of his complete spreading of discord.
"I like paying taxes. With them I buy civilization." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
That was when the State was a LOT smaller.
@@tkengathegrateful4844 OWH lived in a different era. He would also be stunned by how the SCOTUS functions.
@@aleph8888 and the state was a lot smaller generations before he was born. Thomas Hobbes wrote leviathan a couple centuries before Oliver Wendell Holmes came out with that statement about taxes. And it's not a contradiction, it can be both simultaneously.
Labor should be taxed at a far lower rate than Capital..... it's absurd while we're obsessed with GDP.
Speaking of privilege, in the US, Governor DeSantis’ general counsel, Ryan Newman, was asked to define “woke” and he responded that the term means “the belief there are systemic injustices in... society and the need to address them.” Seems reasonable. And consider the source.
They didn't want people to wear masks, but they are happy to gag them.
Paying tax is not a privilege. Consider the origin. It wasn't paid to a government. It was paid to whoever had the biggest stick 🤷🏼♂️
Land value tax is what we need.
That won't happen in a million years. Because Starmer has £10 million in land.
I have been VERY UNHAPPY paying my tax as a full time employee since 2018. Public services have been getting eroded month by month. And my faith in public services is at an all time low. I'm 34, most of my friends are settled and half were in public services but all but 1 has moved countries. Why? The juice is not worth the squeeze in the UK. Mistreatment by the public, coupled with lack of genuine support from upper management = poor work life balance which is not ideal when wanting to raise a family.
COVID put 2 more of my friends abroad because the public sentiment went from CLAP EVERY THURSDAY, WHAT A GREAT NHS WE HAVE to LOOK AT THESE IMMIGRANTS WANT MORE MONEY, TAKING JOBS. And it's disgusting.
I'm born and bred in the UK but in 12 months, I'll be living part time here because of family.
I love this country and what it is. But what it IS now, is such a far cry from the values I was taught growing up, in this very same country. It's crazy how the values have changed.
I've just been round at my dad's watching GBNews, listening to this is like a breath of fresh air. Aaahhh
I love James, I do, but let misguided people speak their mind with fewer interruptions please. It’s not that I think you’re wrong, but people will make fools of themselves if you let them.
Studies in the US and NZ showed that the wealthiest pay single-digit percentages on their wealth increase, at least partially due to an incomplete capital gains tax regime. If anyone knows the UK figures, it may be useful to post it.
According to LSE, using data from 2015-2016, rich people tend to pay 35% in the UK, but those that exploit capital gains regime pay 11%.
@@DrVictorVasconcelos Ah, right. In NZ the "average" Kiwi pays about 20 per cent. The people who exploit CGT (like me, to be honest) pay 9 per cent.
Are they exploiting CGT or is their wealth not being realised? CGT only gets triggered when you realise the gain and the wealthy don't tend to do this much anymore.
I live in Birmingham. We aren't "opting out" of working. The jobs that we keep being told are there are NOT there
We will often hear the right-wing quote very high figures of people who are not in/seeking work. What they don't mention is the fact that the majority of the high figure is made of full-time students and retirees.
O'Brien points to the fact that Jenrick wants to cut DWP spending even *further* without pointing out that Reeves/Kendal are saying the same.
James has been hijacked by the party division.... He can't see beyond his nose...
Pwaaaa. Our taxes get squandered. Do pull the other leg.... 😂
Not sure why self employed people can pay as little as £3.45 a week in national insurance (a tax) and get access to GP, dentist, hospital, sick pay pension for them and their family whilst going on holiday ,having 2 cars, paying a mortgage etc etc. I used to pay over 300 pounds a month and didn't earn over 40,000. Seems a bit of a joke to me.
Well you should have had an idea and started your own business then. Instead you work for someone who did.
Well I used to be self employed what you are failing to understand is they pay two levels of national insurance they also pay class 4
I'm not sure you see the point. I'm not attempting to decide and conker. It's simply (like me ha ha) why so many different levels if we all have access to the same NHS, GP, HOSPITAL,DENTIST ETC. None of it ads up without even talking about state pensions.
Self employed get no tax breaks anymore what with class 4 NI, despite the fact they get no sick pay, no holiday pay etc etc.
The best way for self employed to protect their income from punative taxation is to set themselves up as a LTD company and then pay themselves minimum wage
This covers NI.
Then the company gets personal allowance. You get to spend money on car finance ( tax deductable ) even holidays if you can prove it's for a business meeting.
You then pay what's left at 19% corporation tax rate.
Much better
I know you were a fan, but I love that George Michael was the only one of his cohorts who didn’t emigrate to avoid paying tax!
“ money doesn’t meant enough to tell me when I wake up in the morning” he was 24 years old! 💕
Is it not the fact the the private sector have their tenticles interwoven into many of our public services now. The tax payer are now contributing to shareholder profits rathar than going back into the country's coffers. Railways, roads, prison services and water etc. Everything used to work pretty well. Not perfect but OK. Now every sector is falling apart despite paying and and now higher NI compared to 30yrs ago. A real head scratcher for sure.
"Did I do OK?"... 😢
Not when you feel that your taxes are being wasted and you see public services getting worse despite more money going into the system.
But there is less money going into the system.
That’s a different problem… Vote for right wingers and those taxes WIILL go to those who need them the least.
@@mattsharpey361Almost right, those taxes will go. They won't exist.
@@mattsharpey361like old age pensioners on 12k a year you must mean. Your leader soon stopped that. Very nice of him.
I am a Brit who has lived in Norway for 12 years and am now a citizen of both countries. I love oaying tax in Norway, the education is brilliant (I don't have children myself), if I want to see a doctor I can see one today, the roads are great as is the public transport. The court and prison system is brilliant. Everything here works almost perfectly. When working in the UK i hate paying tax, becasue nothing works and the more that they tax us there, the worse things get.
I think my wife realized assumed knowledge when she met me. She was pretty shocked with how ignorant I was.
I do love that James confidently pretended he understood science for a bit.
I recall IDS quoting the cost of implementing UC (Universal Credit) at £3billion when he announced the change. I stopped looking at the *actual* cost around 6-7yrs ago, and even then it had reached £33billion.
Totally agree that paying taxes is an act of patriotism.
James trying to make us think it’s an honour to part with half of your hard earned and give it to the complete incompetent government to spend in an irresponsible manner. I’m 57 and haven’t in my entire life met anyone who shares his opinion. Trying to make out only 0.7% of people who claim benefits are swinging the lead is incredibly naive but that’s no surprise from a person who’s never really lived in the real world
It isn't anywhere close to half, why are you lying?
And the incompetent government you're likely picturing was ruled by the Tories for decades, that is on them. Not on the concept of government.
To be precise and I was slightly wrong, as soon as you earn £125,140 you pay 45% income tax. Which means if you do a 40 hour week, mon-Fri you will take home 22 of those hours, so if its 9am to 5pm, you are donating from 3 pm Wednesday afternoon to 5pm Friday to the government. Do you consider that an honour or do you think it’s a rip off. Let’s not forget that we all pay VAT on pretty much everything we buy at 20%. If you actually think about it are we getting value for money. Yes the tories were terrible but this lot are shaping up to be even worse.
@@Refflog You weren't slightly wrong, you were vastly misrepresenting reality. Which I do believe you're doing on purpose, rather than out of ignorance.
You pay 45% on anything you earn over that threshold, not the moment you meet the threshold you pay 45% on everything you earn. Its called a progressive tax.
And considering you're provided tons of social services, including infrastructure to be able to get to work in the first place, not it isn't a rip off.
If you earn that much, and you're whining about paying near 50% tax on anything you earn over that threshold then you're just being narcissistic.
@1:49:50 Goon Show joke: "What's a hen do?" "It lays eggs."
I'm surprised that he didnt mention teachers as people who work to support the population.
I never saw them either! Even with the photo, but then neighbours within 1km of me could see them.
JOB is trying to pave the way towards the upcoming Labour's budget by saying that '"paying taxes is the most patriotic thing we can do" LOL okay mate
umm.. if you say so.
You watched all 3 hrs in 25 minutes?
At least wait abit before you pop the propaganda about labour 😂
It's amusing watching him scrabble around looking for new ways not to talk about the mess they are in, and making larger by the day. On today's show ...."Brexit" again
@@ukqwerty999 What's the timestamp for the start of the Brexit conversation?
Wasn’t saying this when rishi was in charge of the books. He was slating them everyday.
Thanks James from Lake County California
01:50:21
Rod cells do *NOT* "work only at night".
It is true that rod cells detect intensity of light and shadow and cone cells detect wavelength and so are responsible for colour perception.
{:o:O:}
_(Edited for tyops)_
It doesnt matter if the cost of dealing with the small boat people is small financially in the big scheme of things.
Tell that to a British Veteran or someone indigenous.
Nearly 1 million subscribers and 8 thousand views for JOBsworth,🤣🤣🤣
Claire is a "delight".
Henry Riley is lovely.
James has no idea of the streets
First taxable comment. Yessssss!
Unfortunately, Google doesn't pay tax.
@@marcfielding2460 They do, but they pay tax like Donald Trump pays tax.
@@andrewstevenson118Whenever they want, however much they want, and just to make a point?
@@DrVictorVasconcelos Pretty much. NYT (?) did an investigation of DJT's tax records. He paid zero tax in 11 of the 18 years they checked. Zero. By contract Bill Gates paid $500m average in those years.
@@DrVictorVasconcelos Yep. NYT worked out that in 11 of 18 years, DJT paid zero tax. Zero.
I did a shift in Kidiminster,,,😂😂
Dont see where it goes.
alki 4 sure
😂😂😂😂😂
No taxation without representation
I always thought it ironic that the US Founders liked to use that phrase, while most of the population couldn't vote - and they weren't proposing to allow them to.
@@andrewstevenson118 same I just like saying it.
@@matthewgubbins8515 Excellent. Is the reverse true? 🙂 Should it be?
@@andrewstevenson118 scrap tax
@@keirmitchell5560 A tax on scrap, or do away with tax?
Is james still auditioning for sir kiers PR/spin doctor vacancy 😂
Such a dewy-eyed rosy hued sentiment! Tax is a wasteful extortion from people. A permanent secretary engaged in public service- the worst kind of joke.
You wouldn't last a week without government services.
@@andrew66862 Another joke?
@@seemaseema9720 you people love to forget about things like roads and clean water. Not to mention, with your unpleasantness I can't imagine you'd last long without the protections afforded by the police and criminal justice system.
@andrew66862 roads and clean water? You literally couldn't have picked 2 worst examples. Our water is barely drinkable, our rivers and beaches are unsafe to bathe and let's not go into the state of our roads...
@@gregchew8225 you must be smart enough to understand that the quality of a service and the necessity of a service are entirely unrelated. But if you think the roads and water would be better with*no* public investment, I have to question your intelligence.