As someone who somehow has Senn as their favourite character this was very interesting. Honestly I think I liked the idea of the premise of his arc in canon but I genuinely also had problems with it's execution in the script. Honestly his canon arc literally is him becoming less rebellious in S1, being essentially a background character for all of S2 up until S3E5 and then he becomes relevant again, and even then he dealt with the whole "Being half Voltaris thing _way_ too quickly, there was like no payoff. I honestly love this rewrite because it makes Senn's internal struggles very clear and makes him more of a character instead of just a stand-in for the audience in most of his interactions.
Also if the script is re-written, it should probably have a scene with Senn and the other Masters, because it parallels Ingressus' confrontation with the old Masters and also brings the Voltaris Arc full circle Also I would love if there's a scene about Senn's thoughts on Thalleous post-S3, like how do you live with not just the knowledge but the _memories_ of someone being wronged by the person who you essentially saw as your 'cool uncle' Also this re-write makes him parallel Achillean in a way (while also being a sort of reverse-Ingressus). Also it ties into something Thalleous said about the truth helping Senn find peace, as through him finding his inner peace, he found peace for the entire clan
@@VEX1NS exactly, and I've always been compensating for that in my headcannons by giving Senn like mass amounts of repressed baggage because it's never mentioned in canon
Maybe all this feedback could be utilized for when Mont and others rewrite the S2 and S3 SoW scripts if it ever gets off the ground from the fundraiser. They do already have a lot of planned changes in mind in regards to arcs like the Ender one, which was already something planned from the Commentary videos too. Gotta remember that the S2 and 3 scripts we were given, were just drafts and were never going to be fully used in the final productions.
i do understand that fully! its actually why i made the video about senn, as i believe that ( originally ) he character wasnt going to be changed Since his " finished " season 1 writing was weak im making the assumption that season 2/3 senn was considered his " finished " state due to being eqaully weak thank god Mont and the SQM team plan for a rewrite, this is just how id do it! so yes you're completely right!
I see what you mean, Senn. Since getting all this hate needs a rewrite, a 16-minute video won't do it, though. But it's a start! This is a real scratch of the surface because a bunch of dialog changes are needed. Still great start!
I have been a big fan of the series back then. Still is, but it's sad to see that places like Hollywood now no longer produce stories with passion regularly. With the Minecraft Movie on the horizon, my sentiment towards it couldn't even hold a candle against my preference for SOW. Watching your video made me feel that the age which good stories are told can now be harnessed in the hands of people who are not even professionals, who simply tell good stories for the sake of it.
i learnt of his existence through the pedo drama lol SOW is good, but i will never ever be able to see him as a good person tbh ( cuz i never knew him as a person )
@@VEX1NS I discovered SoW through the S1 movie and then forgot about it for a while after the cancellation. Then I rediscovered it through the S2 and S3 commentary videos on BPC in summer of 2021 and have been a fan ever since. Honestly when the allegations came out I was genuinely scared of SoW being taken down. Honestly the community has done an amazing job of separating art from artist.
@@VEX1NS maybe Its been a few years since my last attempt The one i saw all the male characters was one voice actor and the females were all voiced by another
To be honest I don't think Senn is such a problematic character though I do think the changes you suggest could improve the story. My bigger issue is with how in the story is how the Voltaris as a clan are never redeemed. Sure at the end there's a new Voltaris clan but we never see the other clans admitting that they were wrong all those years.
That rewritten scene with galleous also felt quite forced. The change to the rewrite I might make is due to the fact that there wasn't any evidence that Senn might be voltarus. Galleous' question seems rather random there. Instead, Galleous could pose a question about why the voltarus might be doing this. Maybe trying to suggest that they aren't all evil( since he knows what Thalleous did), and galleous wants to prevent another angry hurt hateful person from adding their own destructive potential into the mess Ardoni is. Other than that part of that scene. Your ideas are great. Especially the wish to not only complain about things, but to attempt to fix them.
That's a good point! him straight up asking about the Voltaris motives could also be a little random, so maybe he could ask if Thalleous " did " something, since he the one thing he does know is that thalleous was killed. Glad you enjoyed the video!
i find it interesting that for ingressus to proove his "innocence" he could try to explain it to senn . and maybe senn is like " nah, i dont trust you yet " maybe that could work lol
@@VegaTheLyra just make it so voltar has the memmories of all previous masters, the memories just fade over time like natural memories do Exhile day would be pretty vivid anyway
As someone who somehow has Senn as their favourite character this was very interesting. Honestly I think I liked the idea of the premise of his arc in canon but I genuinely also had problems with it's execution in the script. Honestly his canon arc literally is him becoming less rebellious in S1, being essentially a background character for all of S2 up until S3E5 and then he becomes relevant again, and even then he dealt with the whole "Being half Voltaris thing _way_ too quickly, there was like no payoff. I honestly love this rewrite because it makes Senn's internal struggles very clear and makes him more of a character instead of just a stand-in for the audience in most of his interactions.
exactly what i mean
Also if the script is re-written, it should probably have a scene with Senn and the other Masters, because it parallels Ingressus' confrontation with the old Masters and also brings the Voltaris Arc full circle
Also I would love if there's a scene about Senn's thoughts on Thalleous post-S3, like how do you live with not just the knowledge but the _memories_ of someone being wronged by the person who you essentially saw as your 'cool uncle'
Also this re-write makes him parallel Achillean in a way (while also being a sort of reverse-Ingressus).
Also it ties into something Thalleous said about the truth helping Senn find peace, as through him finding his inner peace, he found peace for the entire clan
@@VEX1NS exactly, and I've always been compensating for that in my headcannons by giving Senn like mass amounts of repressed baggage because it's never mentioned in canon
songs of war is one of those things I come back to every few months to rewatch it
really wish they contiunued with the second season
You and me both
I came back to this series after some years of leaving it. I loved the “believer” remix on the trailer, it’s great seeing it alive!
Maybe all this feedback could be utilized for when Mont and others rewrite the S2 and S3 SoW scripts if it ever gets off the ground from the fundraiser.
They do already have a lot of planned changes in mind in regards to arcs like the Ender one, which was already something planned from the Commentary videos too.
Gotta remember that the S2 and 3 scripts we were given, were just drafts and were never going to be fully used in the final productions.
i do understand that fully! its actually why i made the video about senn, as i believe that ( originally ) he character wasnt going to be changed
Since his " finished " season 1 writing was weak im making the assumption that season 2/3 senn was considered his " finished " state due to being eqaully weak
thank god Mont and the SQM team plan for a rewrite, this is just how id do it! so yes you're completely right!
I see what you mean, Senn. Since getting all this hate needs a rewrite, a 16-minute video won't do it, though. But it's a start! This is a real scratch of the surface because a bunch of dialog changes are needed. Still great start!
Amen
after all i dont do writing work for free ;D
@VEX1NS you also can fix ria too? lol
@@yes-sj3pd hahahaha NO i cannot
@@VEX1NS fairs U gonna make a video to explain why?
Yeah, I think I Agree, he definitely Does need an arc
I have been a big fan of the series back then. Still is, but it's sad to see that places like Hollywood now no longer produce stories with passion regularly. With the Minecraft Movie on the horizon, my sentiment towards it couldn't even hold a candle against my preference for SOW. Watching your video made me feel that the age which good stories are told can now be harnessed in the hands of people who are not even professionals, who simply tell good stories for the sake of it.
Nice video!
Hey CK!
15:42 the SoW community in a nutshell when anyone mentions David
i learnt of his existence through the pedo drama lol
SOW is good, but i will never ever be able to see him as a good person tbh
( cuz i never knew him as a person )
@@VEX1NS I discovered SoW through the S1 movie and then forgot about it for a while after the cancellation. Then I rediscovered it through the S2 and S3 commentary videos on BPC in summer of 2021 and have been a fan ever since. Honestly when the allegations came out I was genuinely scared of SoW being taken down. Honestly the community has done an amazing job of separating art from artist.
As someone who loved s1 and could not watch s2 (because of the acting) this is pretty good
I never knew there was a s3
15:34 im sorry; unless things have changed since my last attempt to watch s2’s voice acting was not great
S1 was great and haven’t seen s3 but s2 nope
@@TheRealProfessionalNoob you're probably thinking of the fan voice actors, the official voice actors were as amazing as always
@@VEX1NS maybe
Its been a few years since my last attempt
The one i saw all the male characters was one voice actor and the females were all voiced by another
To be honest I don't think Senn is such a problematic character though I do think the changes you suggest could improve the story.
My bigger issue is with how in the story is how the Voltaris as a clan are never redeemed. Sure at the end there's a new Voltaris clan but we never see the other clans admitting that they were wrong all those years.
It would be better if he was first appeared in Sendaris colours(Osivian could ask Sendaris Master initiate Senn in their clan)
why tho, that removes his whole arc
@ this could made more conflict
His brothers are Voltaris
He is Sendaris
That rewritten scene with galleous also felt quite forced. The change to the rewrite I might make is due to the fact that there wasn't any evidence that Senn might be voltarus. Galleous' question seems rather random there.
Instead, Galleous could pose a question about why the voltarus might be doing this. Maybe trying to suggest that they aren't all evil( since he knows what Thalleous did), and galleous wants to prevent another angry hurt hateful person from adding their own destructive potential into the mess Ardoni is.
Other than that part of that scene. Your ideas are great. Especially the wish to not only complain about things, but to attempt to fix them.
That's a good point!
him straight up asking about the Voltaris motives could also be a little random, so maybe he could ask if Thalleous " did " something, since he the one thing he does know is that thalleous was killed.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
People still remember Songs of War??
hell yea we do
We never forgot
Healing isnt a supporo power its proteheal?
its a rewrite, it can be
Honestly Ingressus' info dump could've been reserved for the Voltar memory sequence.
i find it interesting that for ingressus to proove his "innocence" he could try to explain it to senn . and maybe senn is like " nah, i dont trust you yet "
maybe that could work lol
But Voltar would only show Ingressus' memories while he was a master, which wouldn't cover the initial exile of the Voltaris
@@VegaTheLyra just make it so voltar has the memmories of all previous masters, the memories just fade over time like natural memories do
Exhile day would be pretty vivid anyway
@@VEX1NS fair point! It would also help with the question of why does Senn believe Ingressus in the Hailstone scene