"I feel like I have always been in this lane of too religious for some, and not religious enough for others. You can't win. And the center that still holds for me is truly, deeply, madly, Jesus." How can anyone argue with that? Me too Amanda. Me too.
i listened to this 3 times on repeat and on the 3rd i actually (and i'm so embarrassed and ashamed to admit it) but i just washed my my hair for the first time in over a year-i'm feeling good about today thank you
Why is it Christian comment sections are always the worst? It’s sad to me that people’s faith can be so fragile, that words can trigger them into deciding someone else’s walk with God is wrong. What she is saying is valuable and valid. Not to mention I would be willing to bet her music has inspired more people to walk with god than anything anyone in this comment section my self included.
There's a fine balance between just being nice or silent to get along vs. going with the urge (need?) to address deception. Do we say nothing to be kind? Should we only pray? Should we speak, but make sure to say things as gently as possible? I'm naturally very blunt. I go back and edit and delete all the time when I get convicted that I wasn't careful or patient or kind. I'm often torn about whether I should leave other Christians alone about things like yoga or cussing or secular music or new age or (fill in the blank) that are now rampant in the church. It's a tough call.
@@RCGWhoI feel like we are not called to address other christians in their walk with the Lord, unless they asked us to speak into their lives. God honors our free will so radically, He allows us 100% to make our own choices, also in our walk with Him. If we choose however to be under healthy spirit filled leadership, we see way more of Him and thrive more beautifully everyday ❤ The Holy Spirit in us will convict us of truth in somebody’s words and we get a chance to see more truth and live more free.
@@RCGWho unfortunately the language your using is very foreign in this modern day generation who are saturated with Christian New Age mysticism as we see here in the comments . we need to pray and we need to speak more than ever especially those of us who have been walking with the Lord for 25 years .
I so love and appreciate Amanda Cook and have for many many years! The way she so authentically leads people into such a deep intimate place with Jesus, Daddy God, Holy Spirit very much so still to this day. As much as I LOVED “Brave New World” album and every other album she’s recorded and released or every song she’s played a part in writing, I’ll have to say that probably her most recent album release “Survey” is SO genuinely all about Jesus and how there’s nothing in her life that has ever compared to Him. What I so appreciate about Amanda is her ability to speak about the deeper things that sometimes only artists and creatives can potentially truly relate to. She has the ability to speak on subjects without speaking “Christianese” that the lost want nothing to do with. Because I actually have followed her very deep relationship with the Lord and I actually listen to her music on an ongoing basis, I fully understand everything she is sharing here. She is still very connected to her sacred relationships she had at Bethel Church where Holy Spirit really did a deep dive in her relationship with Him. She recently toured again with Bethel worship and I’ve seen and heard everything she shared from her heart as she led people into a deeper place with Jesus in worship. I’m grateful that she has the ability to speak about these things in a way that someone who doesn’t relate to “church people” can actually understand and enable them to consider thoughts they had fully shut down BECAUSE of horrible experiences sadly with the Body of Christ. I have zero idea who this guy is that she quoted, but because I do know how grounded Amanda actually is in her relationship with Jesus, I’m not concerned because she’s mature enough in the Lord to discern the difference between what’s truly God and what’s not. I’m grateful that I’ve actually never had a lot of church hurt, regardless that I grew up in the Bible Belt. But I am grateful that Holy Spirit let me to an amazing “thinking charismatic” church in Nashville and I’m also forever grateful that He led me to learn about Bethel Church in 1999. With that said, I’m very aware of how church people that have shallow relationships with Jesus and have a sad Pharisee spirit where their first knee jerk reaction is to listen for ANY sentence they don’t fully understand or comprehend and IMMEDIATELY are ready to crucify a person they don’t even know much about. I’ve had amazing experiences with the Body of Christ and maybe it’s because I feel more drawn to reach the lost than to minister to the Body of Christ, I see so much that believers post on social media that don’t even carry an ounce of the love of Jesus nor the Father’s heart for every precious person He created. I do find it fascinating that so many in the Body of Christ FREAK OUT over scientific words like “frequencies!” It just makes me laugh a little because I’m somewhat aware that perhaps people who are not musical maybe don’t realize that anytime they listen to music, they are listening to frequencies. There are radio frequencies. Every disease has a frequency to where if one knows something about Rife machines, they’ll understand that you can set a rife machine to run at the frequency that someone has like Lyme disease where it’s sitting at as a frequency and it can begin to address the disease at that frequency. There’s nothing New Age about the talk of frequencies. I actually tend to be rather sensitive to being spiritually aware of when someone is sharing something that really sounds way off and not biblical. Amanda Cook is actually very grounded STILL. She is highly intelligent and this is sometimes why she can at times be misunderstood by the Body of Christ. But if you’ve listened to her latest album “SURVEY” anyone who is actually a laid down lover of Jesus will know that Amanda has only gone deeper into the heart of Jesus. Rita and Amanda are long time friends and Amanda knows she can feel safe sharing deeper thoughts with Rita because Rita has a history with Amanda and she knows where Amanda lives and breathes in her relationship with the Lord. There were a lot of fantastic takeaways from this interview that I’m really grateful for. I have very close family members who have deeply struggled with ADHD/ADD in sometimes debilitating ways that have drastically affected their lives. It can be genetic and it also can be a symptom of trauma or disease, like Lyme disease, which can really exaggerate any ADD symptoms a person may have experienced before coming down with Lyme. I’m now aware that I without question have dealt with ADD most of my life and can unfortunately see a long generational pattern of ADD/ADHD. But gratefully it didn’t begin to become jacked up until Lyme disease surfaced in my body. Anyway, I had NO IDEA Amanda had dealt with ADHD/ADD and so it made me really appreciate her transparency and being really real about all the ways this has affected her in life. I have a nephew who is highly intelligent and highly creative and musical who I believe could potentially relate to what Amanda has shared here. There are 7 different types of ADD and each often have to be addressed in different ways, but I’m really grateful meds have greatly helped Amanda to have the ability to organize her thoughts better on a day to day basis because I’m aware ADD can be crippling and difficult to navigate. She’s literally offering an open door to many in this interview that will only make those who have thought God was only whatever their bad experience has been and He’s not. He’s WAYYY MORE and there is no end to Him. He’s that GOOD. That’s all from me. I’m not interested in sharing my opinions or trying to make someone believe something, but I do struggle with believers of Jesus who don’t appear to actually be laid down lovers of Jesus in their comments on social media. We should all really focus on praying for one another and encouraging each other in the Body of Christ. I’m so grateful Jesus is on His throne and He’s not insecure about Who He is or nervous about anything. And I KNOW He is so incredibly proud of Amanda Cook and everything she has overcome. 💜🙌🏻
Thank you for bringing up the all these points especially the piece in ADHD. It’s very bothersome seeing others in the comments diagnosing her as demon possessed off of one interview and a lack of knowledge of the very real struggle of ADHD. I too have had leaders misdiagnose me and my family as demon possessed/oppressed because of their lack of understanding or empathy. That can be very traumatic to people and shaming when they just actually need help because they may see things differently. In all honesty, most of the prophets in the Bible could have been categorized as neurodivergent by these present classifications but instead the Lord used their different way of seeing and experiencing to bring him glory.
Loved your thoughtful, well written response. I haven’t even listened to this interview yet, but feel pretty familiar with Amanda Cook, and I have really loved her music and worship style. Thank you for your heart and for responding in a way that was encouraging to my heart. You made the Lord pleased and proud of you. Well done. ❤
Wow 🤯 Amanda Cook put to words, using language, to bring a very real self awareness to the Worship community: “ she didn’t feel comfortable with people watching her on a stage to self regulate” do you know how many people are going to be liberated with the realization of this revelation? Much-needed for future healing for future worship leaders 🤯❤️
As a creative - also recently diagnosed with ADHD - Amanda's story makes perfect sense to me. It's refreshing to hear so much from someone I feel I can relate to. Even the whole "not wanting to play in front of people" thing because it's so vulnerable...I always felt the same. I loved, loved, loved House on a Hill. It gave language to much of my own journey, and I was right there with her the whole way. I just loved this conversation. Thank you ladies, I admire you both so much.
Many many years ago I used to grab whatever kids in the neighbourhood who were allowed and wanted to come listen to worship music from Jon Buller and we were able to hear Amanda in Winnipeg once. It was a real blessing. I'll never forget.
I love this! We are declared righteous by the faith OF, not in, christ (Galatians 2:16 YLT). When we realize that He is the one holding us. He is the one, by the incarnation, that has created union with us (and all his creation). We realize that all our attempts to connect with God and try to make the Holy Spirit "come" or "draw near" are of works. That Grace is all on God's side and our union with God is already accomplished by Christ. We simply let go and fall into this ever present Grace where he has always already and forever will be holding us.
I do have to say listening to bethel worship I have had to stay completely focused on God and his face bc it takes you on such a deep spiritual level you have to make sure your "with The Lord" there is definitely a fine line 🙏 I have ppl that have seen me listen to Bethel Worship music and worship the Lord and it freaks them out ,I think bc ppl just aren't used to seeing God move like that.I am grateful for all of Bethel Music ❤
Amanda, you feel relief when you sing & play piano because God designed you for music & worship unto Him. As Rita says, He gave you a unique gift to use for His glory. You were intricately wired by the father's hands to experience His presence, especially when you play the piano & sing 🎶 He loves your worship 💖 So thankful for your obedience to say yes even when it's hard. Your sacrifice has helped so many believers all over the world to experience His presence through your music. I've faced many challenges in my life and your songs have always centered me & brought me back to the feet of JESUS. Sending you my love from Australia!🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Thank you Amanda for being courageous and stepping out to do an interview, knowing that judgment would come from people about where you are with God. I’ve been there, as some of us have. A challenging time comes, and our faith gets tested. We feel left in the grief, sometimes feeling as though we are in it alone. Who God is, and who He is to us gets questioned. It can feel like a great shaking. Sometimes, it can feel like we’ve lost what once was, and part of that is true. While God is never changing, our exploration of Him is ever growing and expanding. He speaks in so many ways and touches all of us in different ways. You are free in Him, and you belong!
A couple of key take aways for me, from an extraordinary episode, were, "Movement (dancing, singing, moving) helps metabolize the things that we feel and the things we think." Yes, that totally resonates with me!! Also, "If we don’t know how to behold we end up exploiting, and then we end up consuming (in our relationships with people). Beholding the miracle of what is causes us to interact entirely differently." I am all about beholding (and becoming like) Jesus, but to hear Amanda use and apply "beholding" in human relationships and how it keeps us from exploiting and using people for what they can give us (consuming) ... 🤯 She really put language to my thoughts and I 100% agree! Thank you for this transparent and vulnerable conversation, Rita & Amanda! ❤
This comment section proves true to what Amanda was saying…💯 You absolutely cannot please everyone, nor will everyone understand you. I’m thrilled that Amanda sees this and doesn’t cower to other people’s fears. People are so afraid of what they don’t understand, what they don’t have a language or reference point for. A point in the podcast, that was also proven in the comment section. I went through a major life trauma about a year ago, and this podcast brought healing and understanding…it gave me some words for what I feel/went through. Thank you SO much ladies. I know there’s a cost that comes when you share your heart/personal experiences like this. ❤️❤️
It's seems disingenuous to depart from orthodoxy and then get offended when your views are called into question. People can be new age if they choose to be, but let's be clear about it.
@@RCGWho exactly. It has nothing to do with her, not being able to please people. I don’t share any of her believes at all and I find everything she says in this video very troubling. People aren’t going to understand her and are going to call to question any other things she’s saying and she’s just gonna have to learn to deal with that. That is totally 100% on her and no one else. Now if she comes back to orthodoxy a.k.a. the Bible, then, obviously people will understand that, but if she is unwilling to then that’s on her. My doctrine, which is strictly the Bible will never align with hers and that’s just the fact. The thing goes for many other orthodox Christians. Our doctrine will never align and again that is her problem. I nor anyone else that is a viable believing Christian should have to change our belief system to understand her or to make room for her. She can choose not to come back to the Bible, but Amanda needs to understand that she can’t take offense to people questioning her and finding the things she saying problematic, and in some cases downright heretical. God should be the only one that she wants to please. As Christians, we are not to live our lives for pleasing people. And she does not please God buy you holding onto all these new rage believe that do not align with his word. In order to please God, she must come back to the Bible.
Thank you so much for this podcast, Rita! I appreciated Amanda's raw and real reflections about her internal process, her journey connected to her upbringing and faith perspective. I admire her courage to challenge herself to go deeper. to contemplate perspectives in the moment, and to admit she is still on the journey. I hope one day I can meet her and explore what makes her tick. She is a great gift, one who inspirers others to beyond their perceived capacity to reach their Divine potential. Thanks Amanda!
Music is a gift from the Lord. He gives it to us to enjoy and glorify Him, we find our peace in Him and worship is the tool He uses to help us realize who He really is . And in return we find out who we are in Him.
You are a blessing amanda! Thank you for allowing us to see you in those moments that are vulnerable. You are a breath of fresh air,. Your music...its freeing and restful, examining ❤ Thank you
Calling the act and privilege of leading worship (leading the Bride, the Body of Jesus Christ, thesaints, the flock... in worshipping the Almighty, Everlasting, Emmanuel, Holy One, Ancient of Days, Risen Lamb of God) *self-regulation* ? Where is the reverence? Where is fixing our eyes on Jesus instead of focusing on us and our issues? I cannot get over how deeply this coversation grieves me. Amanda and her worship really meant so much over the years.
I actually find this extremely offensive. I didn’t think this conversation could get any worse. Wow! The act of worshiping God or leading people into worship if not self regulation. Yikes! She is all about herself. And it’s sad that people are just eating this interview up. She brought no glory to God in this entire interview. No reverence for God or Christ whatsoever.
I agree with both of you. A day after watching this, my spirit is disturbed. Amanda seems lost; Rita seems overly complimentary of her, calling her "a genius," and "super smart." So little humility. And so many in the comments section applauding it all, while angrily calling those of us expressing genuine concern "Pharisaical, religious, critical, in fear, insecure, unloving," etc. Disturbing, all the way around.
I don’t even know why she’s a worship leader. She absolutely shouldn’t be. She cannot and should not be trusted to lead people into worship and she should not have any form of influence over the church, whether it’s worship leading or writing songs for the church to sing. I literally saw someone say isn’t God blessed to have her? Yikes! She is not on a level with God. God does not share his glory with anyone and Rita calling her a genius is quite awful. No one is more knowledgeable than God. Not me, not Amanda, not anyone. God is all knowing.
This was very insightful. I do wish there was more of a deep dive into her past because it really explains her personality , how she is wired from childhood because of her family roots, their beliefs etc. It helps shed light on how she looks at the Lord and how that relationship is even framed because of her previous experiences. Its the same for every human being. Also ..lets just acknowledge she is not AMERICAN. I think we as the American church are so quick to judge things because people don't speak exactly like us or view/interpret the Bible like we do. How fragmented the collective church can be when we are comprised of so many cultures, upbringings, understandings and intelligence. Regardless, I appreciate the conversation and pray that God continue to lead/guide Amanda, Rita and the rest of us in the comment section , by the Holy Spirit into all Truth. Amen. ❤
You’re so creative and I love your heart Amanda. Yes, you have different language than some and that’s ok. You remind me of my nephew that plays piano. The way he connects when he plays a key on the piano is so beautiful 🥹. He loves God and he loves Beethoven. He is newly saved and is in awe of how he now knows God is the creator of the beauty in music. Pieces & Closer mean so much to me🫶🏼.
Wow! The song PIECES by Amanda has always spoken deeply to trauma from my childhood. I am so encouraged by this podcast as it rattles and hums in my soul to hear brave believers who are not afraid to be deep and real and raw. Rita - I love the question towards the end about what thing that burns in us. I love this newly found podcast and I believe in my heart and marrow that we will talk in person as this is such a liberating and cool ministry. Keep going! Talk to you soon.
I think this interview is a true gift; step back from over-judging her insight from the things she has read from Richard Rohr. Like many people, he has a lot of good insight into a walk with the Lord, but discernment is needed when the mysticism has gone too far and taken a later turn. Pray for him! Pray for all your brothers and sisters to remain or come back on the narrow path, but don’t condemn them. Amanda is a wonderful gift; she is stepping out and giving you an articulate and rare insight into the processing of a woman of faith with an ADHD brain. Her language is beautiful because it describes, after years of agonising wrestling, what has and is going on for her as she walks with Jesus. The learning needs to come from us (UK over here, lived in USA and elsewhere too) that we are only just learning to understand neurodiversity being expressed in our world and in the Christian expression of faith. Look at it with the eyes and ❤ of Jesus and ask Him to show you how He sees her, and you will see His ❤ for her xx
That word Beholding is so good. I really treasure being present with people and find it exhausting to be around those who are so busy doing, exchanging and expecting. This talk gave another level of clarification of why I prefer the quiet & deeper connection with a person more.
This is something I'm growing in as well. The infinite eternal God is only found and experienced in this present now. So when we rehearse the past with regrets or fret about the future with anxiety we position ourselves outside the grace of God that gives us the peace and strength now.
I REALLY appreciate this podcast with Amanda. As a worship leader I face many of the same issues that she describes, especially the part of how she uses music and worship to process. I wrestle with this too as a leader and I feel so weird when leading corporately for the same reasons!! Thank you for sharing!
Amanda your raw and realness felt in your music is an incredibly powerful gift. Thank you for being vulnerable with your sound and heart through your music it has helped heal and empower me throughout the years. I had the chance to talk to you briefly at City Church in Kirkland WA and you gave me a word and stopped to talk and it meant so much to me. The what if it can be different you express in this interview is what brings hope and growth to all who hear your music. I just listened to Before and After, Love Never Fails and Bitter/Sweet and that trio hits deep every time. Massive love for you and your music! Keep trucking hard, you are a light and worth the best and highest possible love in all the ways. Bless you!!
Thank you so much for this interview! So many profound statements that gave clear language to things I’ve felt in my walk… “this pinhole of light, the smallest possibility that things could be different - and that changes everything” I had to pause it every few minutes to jot down a new favorite quote !!
Wow! What a great podcast! There was a lot to think about and put language to. I think for me, what the Lord was stirring up, was that as creative who thinks and feels deeply about things, that it's ok if my work isn't like other people's and to not get caught up in, "Well, it has to be like this or that." I'm a photographer and it's always a constant battle to not compare myself to others especially with social media now adays. I think the way that I express my photography or express what God has put inside of me THROUGH photography just doesn't look the same as everyone else's way of expression and that's ok because that's how He's created me. I think that just watching this video has helped me realize that, so THANK YOU to the both of you! God bless!
Wow! This is me in a nutshell! Everything you are sharing is how I’ve learned to process life. I’ve always felt like a bit of an oddball because of how I see things but I’ve found more and more that worship is the one thing I do that brings me back to the center with God where I feel “normal”. Thank you for being so real and vulerable.
This conversation resonates so much with what I am walking through with God Jesus and Holy Spirit in my life right now...thank you for your transparency Amanda
Hyper fixation is a result of low levels of dopamine….. Dopamine plays a big role in your reward system. When you do something that feels good, your brain releases a rush of dopamine. You naturally seek more of that good feeling by repeating the behavior that made you feel good…. She’s a persevering pioneer in the faith!!
That’s good “deconstruction” means different things to different people, I had built my house (relationship with GOD) on sand, other people faith,views,and MY Heavenly Father came told me son let us deconstruct and build upon THE ROCK, & praise HIM for it in JESUS NAME
Wow - that’s cool how you can make words mean whatever you want them to. Redefinition of definitions. Now that’s taking creativity to a whole new level. Certainly the logic of a genius.
Exactly. Any pass that is taken does not the path of following Christ will lead to death and destruction and hell. Those involved in this deconstruction movement think they are so much better off but they aren’t.
@10:00 min mark is very telling. Music is defined as the “only thing spacious enough to hold all of me” -Amanda Cook 😢 (A child of God would see their Savior Jesus Christ as plenty big enough to hold all of them. Psalm 139:7-12, John 10:29 “My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand.”) I agree with the other warnings in the comments, this is syncretism (new age + Christianity = deception)
Oh dear jesus, stop being so small and petty - she is saying that she encounters God specifically in MUSIC. That's where she feels the divine presence holds her completely.
@@ielickichher god is music… my heart breaks for her. She is very confused because she is having to re-evolve and rediscover and recreate her faith as she “learns” more in life. This is the problem with deconstruction. Remove the -con … you get destruction.
Oh my goshhh this is so good. I’ve been evolving into a lot of these new revelatory ideals and explorations of indentifying God’s heart for us in these new ways. It’s amazing to see it happen amongst a wider range collective of believers. It’s been welling up in me, and to hear language being given to it, makes me feel less like I’m whacky for believing like this haha. 🤣 So so good! It’s truly about becoming more aware, and more present and it’s been a continuous process over the years, and I’m just so grateful for language being formulated through it. Love listening to ALL of this! 💕
Oh wow, I have been thinking about her lately. Wondering what happened to her, how she was doing. She has an analytical approach to her faith which can be a plus because it makes her think and test things. It can be an issue if taken to the extreme. Learning how to rest in Jesus seems to be the key. Praying for her healing and the ability for her to just rest in His presence.
Change happens through the Holy Spirit… this inner self idea gets you in trouble quickly. Emotions cannot be trusted. I have ADHD, Jesus is my lifeline. This new ideology of deconstruction faith/reconstructing faith - it relies on self to make faith work. Trust the Holy Spirit to work in and through you.
Here to learn with a postured heart open to receive. Thank you for sharing this interview-personal testimony. It is real to me and respectfully vulnerable. Beautiful extension to help me find words to express how I feel I was designed and created-in terms of sharing the love of God here on earth-often feeling like I ride in a different vein of the heartbeat of heaven than the world. I love how each of us have a special and personal walk with Jesus. Spirit, soul, body. Tending to each as they are so intricately fused together. Miracles.
TY for being so candid about your struggles. Love House on the Hill. It akways brings me to a new level of quiet before God. When you talked about " survey" project, i thought of the old hymn "when i survey the wondrous cross..." Resurrection vibes. God bless you 🙏
These two are kindred spirits!! we are witnessing in the moment two amazing women of God realizing how similar they understand each other in deep levels, which is one in 1 million chances! And we get to behold the wonder of this episode 🤯
I'm not trying to be judgemental, but isn't Jesus the map? Isn't the Word the map and being in the secret place listening for His still small voice. Isn't deeper and deeper relationship with the Lord always the answer? Her language seems like music is her comforter not the GREAT comforter.
@@ielickich“All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.” 2 Timothy 3:16,17 Please don’t comment on the Bible when you don’t read it. But I will say - Amen to original comment above!!!
@@debandgilThis verse is referring to the Torah, the scripture not the Word, who is Jesus, not a book. Books contain His words, but the book is not THE WORD who is Jesus. I don’t have a relationship with a book, but with the person of Jesus.
I Thank God..20 years ago was at Brownsville Revival School of ministry from South Africa forthose 2years. Rita came todo worship at morning ..missions week .The one worship song that was speaking to me..Was "It gone be worth it"realy waslife changing..as the American culture wasso different..But that song..wasa blessing.❤
Body of Christ, many of us are overly suspicious and not discerning at all. So quick to speak on things that they truly dont understand. Unable to discern between a fellow christian who is just wounded and hurting in need of some tender loving care from a person who is a reprobate. These two scenarios ain't the same. May God help us. Amanda, ❤🤗
It's not appropriate to listen to 90 minutes of new age and not say something. Baby Christian s may hear this and think it's normal and biblical. I met a man named Murray Begg at The Last Footwear Company in New Zealand in 1987. He looked like an aging hippie and I asked him something about his faith. He told me that in his youth or young adult years (70's), he had gotten saved, but he'd grown and evolved so to speak and now he was into meditation or some new age thing. Here's the thing. Jesus isn't a self-actualization program or a box we grow out of. We're supposed to remain as little children and not grow out of that simplicity in Christ.
@@RCGWho Zeal that is not submitted to Christ can be a dangerous thing. If you feel like your convictions come from the Holy Spirit He is powerful enough to convict others too. Holy Spirit is the One who convicts us of sin, He needs no extra help. So pray for others. It is not appropriate to start arguments in other believers comment section either. Everything ain't always as it seems. Discernment is a gift the Holy Spirit gives freely.❣️
According to Rohr's teachings, following Jesus is the "best shortcut" to salvation, but one does not necessarily have to practice formal Christianity. The key is to "fall in love with the divine presence, under whatever name." Rohr says people are disillusioned with conservative churches that teach that nonbelievers and followers of non-Christian religions go to Hell. This speaks for itself !!!
Thank you for sharing about ADHD. I was diagnosed with it and learning disabilities over 15 years ago. I’ve found many Christian’s tend to speak down on individuals who have mental health issues. So I felt I had to hide it from those in religious settings. Although I’ve come off medication for it I still battle the symptoms but try to cover them up because the religious community still doesn’t seem to understand that it’s not just a “spiritual” battle. It’s an actual medical condition that I ask God to help me through each day. I completely understand what Amanda is speaking about and I’m grateful she speaks about it unashamedly. Thank you for this podcast.
Rita - remember the Lord He is alone is God, and He alone is Holy. He shares what is His. If we are holy, it is His shared holiness imparted to us. It is nothing we have created or discovered. It’s His alone. To suggest that holiness is not reserved for the Lord alone is heretical. The angels know and recognize this. The demons know and recognize this. You may mean to say something else, be careful that you do not stumble others. 1:07:40 Scripture shows us how we are not righteous apart from God. “as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” Romans 3:10-12
Oh yikes! What time stamp did she say that?I think i’m going to move away from her podcast. The last few episodes minus the one with Mitch Wong have been very troubling. This one especially. That is absolute heresy. She needs to stop.
These videos have been such a blessing. I’m a worship leader in a small congregation in Fairhope, I’m a writer and praying and believing God will move me in the right directions and the right time. I love your opening “worship is my weapon” could I use this line for a worship song?
I pray that every person that watches this knows Jesus for themself, is rooted in the word of God and can discern by the Holy Spirit what is right and what is just outright new age mess…💔
OMG, AC just described and gave me language for my entire inner world, my creativity does not lie in music and in being a musician, but I have a deep deep, deep appreciation of what song and worship and music bring to me! I am a licensed mental health professional, I’m so accustomed to helping that I forget to look see me! I just want to mention also I am so excited, Miss Rita Springer, that you were coming to OpenDoor!
Richard Rohr? The divine? 😐 I was into buddhism and new age Christianity before finally giving my life to Jesus and sadly how she is speaking about God reminds me of this. I pray she continues her re-discovery of faith and if not already, that she falls safely into his arms. It is Jesus who loves you! It is Jesus who saves!
@@lilitalia777 God bless you. I’m so disturbed and concerned for everybody that’s saying that there’s no problem with her promoting him. All it takes is a quick search. He is a heretic. He believes that Jesus and Christ are separate and that Jesus didn’t need to die on the cross, but that your fault self needs to die. He doesn’t believe that scripture is true. There’s so much and people are just OK with her promoting him and saying that we just don’t understand. I’ve listened to her music. She seems like a sweet person but she is deceived and spreading not just her deception, but Richard Rohr’s deception as well. Both are leading people astray. I pray one day that she returned to the biblical teachings of Christ, but until then both her and Richard should be marked and avoided.
She specifically says Jesus is her God as a christian. You are listening but not hearing. Blinded and offended by certain language rather than what the spirit is saying.
@@tyeishaleisure Richard Rohr is a heretic for separating Jesus and the Christ into two distinct identities, but Jesus does indeed die on the cross so that everything that is wrong with us and all that is false in us “the old man” can be killed off and the true self of who we were created to be can come forth. Humans do have a true self and it isn’t defined by sin. It’s defined by Jesus who is the image of God in which we all are originally formed. This is something much of western Christianity completely overlooks and dismisses, and as a result it ends up getting hijacked by new age or other heretical philosophies such as Rohr’s rehashed Nestorianism. As for Amanda, until she actively promotes Jesus and the Christ as two distinct identities, she’s not a threat to anyone.
@@ielickich I'm not offended. I just said it reminded me of something I used to believe. I acknowledge I could be completely hearing it wrong because of my own history / bias. I love Jesus so much.. he literally saved my life.. and just pray for everyone to know him too! 🙏
From Richard Rohr's website: Sunday, August 20, 2023 Father Richard Rohr is convinced that God’s justice in the Bible is fundamentally loving and restorative rather than punitive. " I certainly recognize there are many biblical passages that present God as punitive and retributive, but we must stay with the text-and observe how we gradually let God grow up. Focusing on divine retribution leads to an ego-satisfying and eventually unworkable image of God which situates us inside of a very unsafe and dangerous universe" -Richard Rohr
Fell adhd girlie listening on 1.25 speed while on a run. 😂 timely because long distance running requires being present. I’m gonna work on beholding the moment in my runs and beholding the presence of others.
Amanda, I'm really grateful to God for you. I have enjoyed your music, your form of worship, your style of worship. I thank God for you. You are big access to the Kingdom of heaven and God has been using you and will continue to use you. We must not give place to the enemy and his schemes. You are a part of a royal priesthood. When God created you he called you good. You are beautifully and wonderfully created. Anyone who doesn't understand that should go to the Creator✝️
This talk is so vulnerable, honest, and necessary. The only part that breaks my heart is that so much of the answer lies within the very thing that Charismatic, Evangelical Non-Denominational churches reject: structure and order. If we'd just deal with the plot that the Bible actually presents and abandon the scattered-rhemya-word approach that has destroyed so many, we'd be a lot better off. The kind of Christianity that causes people to deconstruct is one that only thinks of the Scriptures in chapters and verses. Ex: One Sunday, July 7, someone will read a few verses, tell the audience the theme they think is presented in those verses, give 3 points, then have an altar call. A lot of times, no cultural or Scriptural context is given and they don't explain how those verses relate to Genesis 1 through 3-the point from which Genesis 4 - Revelation 22 stems from. The very first time we see a man and woman in the Bible is Genesis 1:26: “Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” The first identity we get of a human is an image bearer of God ("…make man in our image, after our likeness"). Before we learn about humans being kings, sons, daughters, spouses, repairmen, ambassadors, singers, Levites, emperors, friends, etc., we learn that they are image bearers of God. Before we learn humans relation to the world and society, we learn their relation to God. Every story in the Bible from Genesis 2 - Revelation 22 bears in mind "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness." Because of our chapters-and-verse approach, we don't understand that we are modeled after and by God himself! He's the source from which and in which we have out being (Acts 17:28). This is why the Psalmist says, "Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them." Before I am anything-husband, son, father, teacher, singer, gardener, etc.-I am known by God and designed to reflect his image (his kindness, love, generosity, grace, standard of rightness, holiness, etc.). ADHD, PTSD, loveless marriages, abusive homes, drug addiction, corrupt politics, Jesusless churches, etc. could all be resolved if we'd just lean into Genesis 1:26 and allow the grace that flows from it to confront and correct our sin, failures, and flaws. As long as we neglect the reality that we exist in the world but are ONLY sustained IN God, we will forever be in a state of deconstructing and reconstructing in search of what can ONLY be found in God. Simple but not.
Thank you so much Amanda and Rita for this conversation. As someone who has been wrestling with my faith, this interview really drew me closer to God. Thank you for reminding us that we can bring our questions to God and we do not need to pretend. Love you both!
@@ielickichNo please don't encourage people to read those books. It is new age repackaged as "Christianity". I fell for this when first coming out of Buddhism because it was more a god of my making. We all need JESUS. 💕
@ielickich I guess he talks about the concept of " beholding". He also has article on Gender and Sexuality titled "Wide-Eyed Seeing " online that you can Google.
@@lilitalia777 Richard Rohr is a brilliant kind, gentle, wise spiritual elder and a gift to the Body of Christ - you're ignorance and dualistic tribal religious thinking blinds you to what the spirit is saying and revealing.
The enemy has a counterfeit for everything but that does not mean the genuine, original from God does not exist. Someone in the comments mentioned that ALL music carries a frequency & vibration - even diseases have frequencies! The Lord created heavenly frequencies and you can discern it, especially in worship music ❤ I'm just using this as an example because some are commenting this interview contains too many "new age" terms however we are forgetting that the devil has a counterfeit and those expressions aren't necessarily automatically sinful. In Genesis we read that God created all things for His glory. The earth itself has a vibration - this in itself is not evil. We need to listen with the guidance of the Holy Spirit & not jump to conclusions out of fear. Thank you so much for your vulnerability, Amanda. I'm looking fowards to hearing your next project. I'm still adoring your recent album "survey" - it's taken me on a beautiful journey 🩷🙏🏻
I cannot with this comment section 😂 everyone tends to gravitate towards fearing what they don’t know, and placing a judgement on something they haven’t given themselves space to explore without fear. If you know, you’ll know, it’ll resonate. If it’s over your head, and you can’t comprehend these deeper ideals, then pray and ask Jesus to expand your mind, there are many thing Jesus didn’t even write about because he had so much more to tell us, but there wouldn’t even be enough books to write to be able to contain or scribe it all. It’s limitless, Jesus is limitless, and to revelated by him, its gonna sound different than what we’ve been conditioned to believe, and he’s doing a NEW thing, and it’s springing forth, and we should be open to just observing, learning, growing, getting out of our heads and out the systems and traditions that we’ve learned, and become like children, in awe in wonder willing to ask questions, willing to expand in our curiousity. We’ve been conditioned or abused or controlled by being told to shut up. Don’t ask questions, that it’s black and white, or it’s demonic, or it’s “new age”, well it is a NEW ERA and a new age, and the former things are passing away, he’s doing NEW things, he’s sharing his heart in NEW ways, and to stay in a box of “no, it has to be like this… well that is limiting. It’s BEYOND what we can even, think dream or imagine when it comes to God. And that is OKAY! 🫶🏼
It has nothing to do with that at all. We should fight for pure biblical worship. In other words, we should not allow people who promote false teachers to be in a position of worship leader. Amanda seems very sweet, but her promotion of heretic Richard roar will lead many astray. Richard Rohr is a universalist, mystic, and newager meaning his beliefs do not align with the Bible. His Christ is one of his own making. God has no tolerance for false teachers or false teaching, or the promotion of false teachers and false teaching. We are told in Galatians 1: 8-9 that anyone that comes preaching a different gospel, even if it’s an angel will be cursed by God. We are not to except every spirit but test each spirit to see if it’s from God. Read 1 John 4:1-4 We are not to have any association with false teachers at all2 John 11:13. If Amanda is promoting someone like Richard war can she or should she be trusted to leave people into worship of God in Christ? The answer is no. Just like an atheist, muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist should not be trusted to lead people into worship of God in Christ or to write songs for the church or to preach. Worship leader Matt Redman who has been leading worship and writing songs for the church for almost 30 years says that people get their theology from the song they sing at church more than they do from the Bible meaning it is crucial that the songs churches are singing are biblical. If you are a worship leader and songwriter, but your beliefs are unorthodox and fall into Universalism mysticism and New Age territory send you should not have any influence over the church. Yes I am 100% drawing a hardline. At one point during this interview, Amanda refers to Jesus as our guy Jesus. Jesus is more Zan just a guy. He is God incarnate. He is the savior of the world the only one who could die on the cross to take away our sins. One of the many false teachings from Richard Rohr is that Jesus didn’t need to die on the cross, but it is your fault self that needs to die. He believes that Jesus in Christ are separate. None of that is biblical. It is absolute heresy. The wrong view of Christ can and will lead to false teaching and false worship.
@frankchavez9443 I watched this video on the day it was first released. Since then, I have watched it completely at least 5 times, and parts of it many more times. It has been 3 weeks since it was posted and I have thought about almost everyday. As a born again Christian, I am very alarmed by this. So much of it is psychobabble, trying to work out psychosis with each other rather than working out their own salvation and life with fear and trembling before God and by His scripture. Rather than taking each other’s needs together before the Lord Jesus. If you keep on moving in this direction, and the psychology of it all, then you’re not ever reaching out to God for any solution, you’re trying to fix it through anything other than him. Amana and Rita, sadly several times you seemed to intentionally steer away from the Bible. I was very troubled when first viewing this. Then, all of it came together at 36:00 when Amanda mentions Richard Rohr. Richard Rohr, who does not believe in the original sin of Adam and Eve. Richard Rohr, who thus does not believe Jesus was our substitutionary sacrifice on the cross because he does not believe one was needed. Richard Rohr, who does not believe that Jesus is THE Christ because he believes THE divine is in everyone AND in everything. That it is all about “christ consciousness”. That explains why Amanda uses the same terms that Richard Rohr uses, and are also used in other religions other than Christianity, and also in New Age thinking. The entire teaching of contemplative mysticism needs to once again be exposed. For it is nothing but teaching people to keep their minds on anything but Jesus Christ and it is nothing more than the original demonic proclamation from satan that surely God did not mean what He said. It plays on ones ego by saying that it is the answer to what has been hidden from them. This is the very definition of “occult”. It is “mystical”. This is where the deconstruction fad is coming from. Yes, is good that a Christian should often take inventory of what they believe in accordance to what the Bible actually says. But, to deconstruct and then attempt to reconstruct away from the Bible is not just dangerous, it could be eternally catastrophic. This is dangerous for the body of Jesus Christ and the content should not celebrated.
Amanda I know this language/expression and how you speak about music and melodies.. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour. This is a gift of expression creativity but people will not understand… I like musical/savant.. ❤️ Laura C worship… Sounds and vibrations…
New Age? You mean Orthodox Christian Mysticism.... It's too bad most of the American Evangelical Church has been co-opted by a largely modern pagan religion and then dares to call the ancient faith "New Age" because of their severe incompetence and lack of understanding of the genesis of the faith.
@@ree4214 it’s way more than that. The universal Mystic Christ is not the Christ of the Bible . Her quoting Richard Rohrs writings confirms and affirms support for the theology And her language is saturated in that philosophy. Very dangerous stuff .
@@ree4214 nothing to do with that. Her Christ is a New Age Mystic Christ not the Christ of the Bible. she quotes, Richard roar, a universalist, New Ager, mystic, and heretic. The biblical Christ is the only one that should be worshiped. Her beliefs are rooted in New Age doctrine and mysticism, neither of which are biblical.
I am listening to Mike Winger on youtube talk about Bethel's "Bridge to the New Age". It's mostly addressing the book still sold in Bethel's bookstore titled The Physics of Heaven by Judy Franklin and Ellyn Davis. Beni and Bill Johnson contributed to it as well. It discusses one of the authors moving to Sedonna, AZ, and " extracting the precious from the worthless" from the New Age, thereby co-opting New Age practices for use by the Christian. The concept of sounds and vibrations are discussed. Edited
I used to listen to Amanda Cook's song brave and I wonder what happened to her in recent years. As I began to pay more and more attention to the worship songs of the last decade I realized how humanistic and secular they were. I hope that Amanda has returned to true faith. I'm going to watch this video.
@@debandgil it’s not just you. There’s nothing about Jesus in this at all. The little that is in here about Jesus is either not biblical or still and appointing back to them. I don’t mind when artist and worship leaders share their testimony, but it can’t be all about them. Christ needs to be glorified.
Great interview. Thanks Rita for inviting Amanda to the podcast and not being afraid of the opinions and criticism of the "charismatic evangelical american church" that loves to hurl judgements about anything they don't understand. I was so excited to hear Amanda talking about Richard Rohr! He is a wonderful gift to the Body of Christ - please read his books they are life changing! Holy Spirit is always at work and she is revealing the goodness of God and the love of the Father to the world, and maybe more importantly the Church. I believe we are in a reformation, and while Charismatics are looking for another "revival" the revival has already started! It's believers deconstructing the nonsense beliefs about God and separation theology. The HS is at work revealing to the world that we are all his Children and his love is relentless and he will save his good creation. I loved what Amanda said towards the end about about the meaning of her name "she who must be loved." All of God's good creation is worthy of love and God truly thinks "my beloved who must be loved." He so loves us that he has imparted himself into our very being. As Athanasius says, "God became man, so we could become God." God has saved us in his Son, by the incarnation, and at the very depth and inner being of every person is the "I AM" of God. So true Spirituality as Rohr says, is much more about letting go or "unlearning" then it is about learning. We simply fall into the Grace the very presence of God in our innermost depths. Blessings!
2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless*** the falling away ***comes first, and the man of [b]sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2
There is a pressure, lots of pressure we put on each other,teachers/pastors/church buildings, pressures to follow other peoples views,visions, what GOD told you to do, we are following other peoples JESUS, visions,calls, instead of seeking first our GOD His Kingdom, we really never talk how JESUS was like 30 before he ever showed up on the seen, I’m thinking He had much time alone with GOD
There’s supposed to be pressure. Those in the faith in leadership positions like leaders and pastors, a must have the correct beliefs about Christ. The same goes for worship leaders, and songwriters. If they don’t, they have no business being in their positions. What worship leaders, writers, and pastors believer about Christ should be rooted in scripture, not New Age teachings non-mystic teachings not heresy, not man own opinion or secular philosophies. There was in these positions are held to a higher standard. It won’t be judged much more harshly.
It seems like understanding her can be challenging at times. I understand that it can be confusing to interpret what she says, and I sometimes feel that I may not be on the same level as her when it comes to her meditation and philosophy.
She mentioned Richard Rohr and that lost me completely. Many think of him as a wise sage, but I am simply not a big fan of his heretical message and his doubt of the Bible. He's lead so many astray.
I agree with you. However, if you do not have the maturity to sift through what you do and don’t agree with, that’s your loss. It’s a stunning podcast and conversation. If everyone I listened to lost all their credibility off one quote, I would have no one left to listen to. 😂
I love Jesus and being a Christian however other Christians can sometimes make it hard to run towards the church because of how they can be. I see the same things there as in the world which is suppression of individuality which is possible in community. I’m all for qualified folks to speak into my life but I don’t appreciate folks trying to dictate this personal walk with Christ when we have access to the same Bible and Holy Spirit which we are each capable of interpreting for ourselves. People don’t like when you can think for yourself. Super honest share though my only fear sometimes is that I may be deceiving myself and I’m leading myself to hell and the majority group think people are going to heaven. I wonder if God warns you if you’re going there before it happens because I don’t currently feel He is displeased with me as long as I forgive and love others even if from a distance. Blessings all who read this 🙏🏾❤️
@@RCGWho absolutely agree. I believe the Holy Spirit helps also in many ways on this walk with interpretations of things not explicitly stated in the Bible.
I'm not really familiar with New Age jargon, centering oneself, etc, so a lot of this made no sense to me. The whole interview seemed to be about this young woman's feelings and various mental issues, not glorifying God through worship.
There was no new age jargon….rather it was full of language a person who’s been through a great deal of pain and grief only knows. So if it didn’t make sense, you most likely haven’t been through severe trauma and actually walked through it rather than avoid it.
@@cherimarquesrestorationacr2915 I endured much trauma, but instead of self fixing it, Jesus delivered me, literally overnight. That's the power of the Gospel. Now I'm more than a conqueror through Christ.
Wow. I'm about 70% of the way through this. I'm really not sensing a lot of awe, love, or reverence for God Almighty. At around the 45 minute mark, she refers to Him as "our guy, Jesus." I recoiled inwardly. This is way, way too casual for any believer, let alone a well-known worship leader. I think she worships herself, her "journey," and that *music* is her god. She doesn't sound like she's got healthy, mature believers around her, helping to keep her (or get her back) on the right path. Rita, in love, you're the older sister here, you should be one of those. Watch over yourself, also. None of us is above deception ❤ (Edited: I decided to turn it off.)
You’re not wrong at all. She is very much in love with herself. The comment below yours says that she preferred to worshiping and leading worship as self regulation. It’s so sad to see the lack of reverence and see how she makes everything about her. I don’t know what people are getting from this interview. I can’t listen to someone who has such a lack of reverence for God and our savior. There’s nothing to gain from listening to her.
The saddest part is the defense of her. There’s not one part of this interview that brings God glory. And her defenders are saying you just don’t understand ADHD or you’re not meant to understand what she’s saying. First of all, no one would have an issue with understanding her if she wasn’t just somebody talking and absolute word salads and if her beliefs aligned with scripture I was quoting from the Bible rather than a well-known heretic and second, no one should have to except her belief system, which is clearly not in alignment with scripture or biblical Christianity. And as far as blame it on her ADHd, ADHD is no excuse for promoting a heretic it’s also not an excuse for a lack of reverence for God in Christ. She’s a well-known worship leader who should know better. God is it going to give her a pass because of her ADHD. As she was like this back in 2018. She was featured on the song by another Worship Leader and when asked to give her thoughts on the theme and message of this song, she completely steamrolled the conversation. The conversation went from being about being honest with the Lord and the freedom. There is in being honest with the Lord, as well as vulnerable to being about the science of music. This story behind the song segment was a small two or three minutes portion of a larger video. Another Worship Leader Steffany Gretzinger was featured on the song as well, and the only two people who were actually on topic were the writer and singer of the song Pat Barrett and Steffany Gretzinger. Amanda was completely off-topic. I honestly found it quite rude. Pat Barrett has never invited her to be a part of a song again while he still continues to work with Steffany Gretzinger. One last thing she comes off is very smug. There’s a smugness to the way she speaks because she chooses to talk in a way that gives off the impression that she’s at a level with God that no one else can achieve. Tax humility. Most of her solo music is about herself as well.
@@tyeishaleisureSmugness?!? Wow, respectfully brother/sister in Christ - that's your own personal interpretation. I didn't get smugness at all! She is very kind & humble. Perhaps if you met her in person you could witness it for yourself 😊 Her use of advanced language is not to show-off, it's embedded in her DNA. Please don't misunderstand her. We don't all talk or process the same way... That is the beauty of the Body of Christ. Some of us are called to explore poetry, science & creativity, with the intention of glorifying Jesus Christ of course. Blessings to you ❤
@@RoseP-e8c I agree with you 100%. Amanda is a child of God and I have been blessed by her ministry and continue to. She is secure in who she knows the Lord to be and gives herself the freedom to be misunderstood. The Lord knows those who are His and I believe Amanda is one of His.
I resonated a lot with what she said and some I didn’t. There is a reason for that. I am not on her journey. It is not my walk. My walk with Lord led me also to a contemplative heart and prayer. There is a saying that says “ Take what you need and leave the rest”. When some one is expressing their journey it is not always going to hit home and check all boxes that we think should be checked. Let her iron sharpens iron people walk with her.. What others have called new age is actually some old ways coming to light but we call it new age because new agers have taken some of our former practices and made it their own. Contemplative mediation is one of them. We can meditate with the Lord and on scripture and stop and listen. We as humans can learn from each other, good bad or indifferent. Be kind.
"I feel like I have always been in this lane of too religious for some, and not religious enough for others. You can't win. And the center that still holds for me is truly, deeply, madly, Jesus." How can anyone argue with that? Me too Amanda. Me too.
i listened to this 3 times on repeat and on the 3rd i actually (and i'm so embarrassed and ashamed to admit it) but i just washed my my hair for the first time in over a year-i'm feeling good about today thank you
Thats a win! keep stackin em up.
Why is it Christian comment sections are always the worst? It’s sad to me that people’s faith can be so fragile, that words can trigger them into deciding someone else’s walk with God is wrong. What she is saying is valuable and valid. Not to mention I would be willing to bet her music has inspired more people to walk with god than anything anyone in this comment section my self included.
There's a fine balance between just being nice or silent to get along vs. going with the urge (need?) to address deception. Do we say nothing to be kind?
Should we only pray? Should we speak, but make sure to say things as gently as possible?
I'm naturally very blunt. I go back and edit and delete all the time when I get convicted that I wasn't careful or patient or kind. I'm often torn about whether I should leave other Christians alone about things like yoga or cussing or secular music or new age or (fill in the blank) that are now rampant in the church.
It's a tough call.
@@RCGWhoI feel like we are not called to address other christians in their walk with the Lord, unless they asked us to speak into their lives. God honors our free will so radically, He allows us 100% to make our own choices, also in our walk with Him. If we choose however to be under healthy spirit filled leadership, we see way more of Him and thrive more beautifully everyday ❤ The Holy Spirit in us will convict us of truth in somebody’s words and we get a chance to see more truth and live more free.
Because they can hide behind their little glowing screens and be brave. The same idiots will be sweet to your face.
@@RCGWho unfortunately the language your using is very foreign in this modern day generation who are saturated with Christian New Age mysticism as we see here in the comments . we need to pray and we need to speak more than ever especially those of us who have been walking with the Lord for 25 years .
Agreed! The song "you came" on a bethel album has recalibrated me back to Jesus many times!
I so love and appreciate Amanda Cook and have for many many years! The way she so authentically leads people into such a deep intimate place with Jesus, Daddy God, Holy Spirit very much so still to this day. As much as I LOVED “Brave New World” album and every other album she’s recorded and released or every song she’s played a part in writing, I’ll have to say that probably her most recent album release “Survey” is SO genuinely all about Jesus and how there’s nothing in her life that has ever compared to Him. What I so appreciate about Amanda is her ability to speak about the deeper things that sometimes only artists and creatives can potentially truly relate to. She has the ability to speak on subjects without speaking “Christianese” that the lost want nothing to do with. Because I actually have followed her very deep relationship with the Lord and I actually listen to her music on an ongoing basis, I fully understand everything she is sharing here. She is still very connected to her sacred relationships she had at Bethel Church where Holy Spirit really did a deep dive in her relationship with Him. She recently toured again with Bethel worship and I’ve seen and heard everything she shared from her heart as she led people into a deeper place with Jesus in worship. I’m grateful that she has the ability to speak about these things in a way that someone who doesn’t relate to “church people” can actually understand and enable them to consider thoughts they had fully shut down BECAUSE of horrible experiences sadly with the Body of Christ. I have zero idea who this guy is that she quoted, but because I do know how grounded Amanda actually is in her relationship with Jesus, I’m not concerned because she’s mature enough in the Lord to discern the difference between what’s truly God and what’s not. I’m grateful that I’ve actually never had a lot of church hurt, regardless that I grew up in the Bible Belt. But I am grateful that Holy Spirit let me to an amazing “thinking charismatic” church in Nashville and I’m also forever grateful that He led me to learn about Bethel Church in 1999. With that said, I’m very aware of how church people that have shallow relationships with Jesus and have a sad Pharisee spirit where their first knee jerk reaction is to listen for ANY sentence they don’t fully understand or comprehend and IMMEDIATELY are ready to crucify a person they don’t even know much about. I’ve had amazing experiences with the Body of Christ and maybe it’s because I feel more drawn to reach the lost than to minister to the Body of Christ, I see so much that believers post on social media that don’t even carry an ounce of the love of Jesus nor the Father’s heart for every precious person He created. I do find it fascinating that so many in the Body of Christ FREAK OUT over scientific words like “frequencies!” It just makes me laugh a little because I’m somewhat aware that perhaps people who are not musical maybe don’t realize that anytime they listen to music, they are listening to frequencies. There are radio frequencies. Every disease has a frequency to where if one knows something about Rife machines, they’ll understand that you can set a rife machine to run at the frequency that someone has like Lyme disease where it’s sitting at as a frequency and it can begin to address the disease at that frequency. There’s nothing New Age about the talk of frequencies. I actually tend to be rather sensitive to being spiritually aware of when someone is sharing something that really sounds way off and not biblical. Amanda Cook is actually very grounded STILL. She is highly intelligent and this is sometimes why she can at times be misunderstood by the Body of Christ. But if you’ve listened to her latest album “SURVEY” anyone who is actually a laid down lover of Jesus will know that Amanda has only gone deeper into the heart of Jesus. Rita and Amanda are long time friends and Amanda knows she can feel safe sharing deeper thoughts with Rita because Rita has a history with Amanda and she knows where Amanda lives and breathes in her relationship with the Lord. There were a lot of fantastic takeaways from this interview that I’m really grateful for. I have very close family members who have deeply struggled with ADHD/ADD in sometimes debilitating ways that have drastically affected their lives. It can be genetic and it also can be a symptom of trauma or disease, like Lyme disease, which can really exaggerate any ADD symptoms a person may have experienced before coming down with Lyme. I’m now aware that I without question have dealt with ADD most of my life and can unfortunately see a long generational pattern of ADD/ADHD. But gratefully it didn’t begin to become jacked up until Lyme disease surfaced in my body. Anyway, I had NO IDEA Amanda had dealt with ADHD/ADD and so it made me really appreciate her transparency and being really real about all the ways this has affected her in life. I have a nephew who is highly intelligent and highly creative and musical who I believe could potentially relate to what Amanda has shared here. There are 7 different types of ADD and each often have to be addressed in different ways, but I’m really grateful meds have greatly helped Amanda to have the ability to organize her thoughts better on a day to day basis because I’m aware ADD can be crippling and difficult to navigate. She’s literally offering an open door to many in this interview that will only make those who have thought God was only whatever their bad experience has been and He’s not. He’s WAYYY MORE and there is no end to Him. He’s that GOOD. That’s all from me. I’m not interested in sharing my opinions or trying to make someone believe something, but I do struggle with believers of Jesus who don’t appear to actually be laid down lovers of Jesus in their comments on social media. We should all really focus on praying for one another and encouraging each other in the Body of Christ. I’m so grateful Jesus is on His throne and He’s not insecure about Who He is or nervous about anything. And I KNOW He is so incredibly proud of Amanda Cook and everything she has overcome. 💜🙌🏻
Thank you for bringing up the all these points especially the piece in ADHD. It’s very bothersome seeing others in the comments diagnosing her as demon possessed off of one interview and a lack of knowledge of the very real struggle of ADHD. I too have had leaders misdiagnose me and my family as demon possessed/oppressed because of their lack of understanding or empathy. That can be very traumatic to people and shaming when they just actually need help because they may see things differently. In all honesty, most of the prophets in the Bible could have been categorized as neurodivergent by these present classifications but instead the Lord used their different way of seeing and experiencing to bring him glory.
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Loved your thoughtful, well written response. I haven’t even listened to this interview yet, but feel pretty familiar with Amanda Cook, and I have really loved her music and worship style. Thank you for your heart and for responding in a way that was encouraging to my heart. You made the Lord pleased and proud of you. Well done. ❤
i'm Schizophrenic and Autistic and i live the way Amanda explains thoughts and feelings in a way i never can't but i can't understand when she talks ❤
sorry can!
Wow 🤯 Amanda Cook put to words, using language, to bring a very real self awareness to the Worship community: “ she didn’t feel comfortable with people watching her on a stage to self regulate” do you know how many people are going to be liberated with the realization of this revelation? Much-needed for future healing for future worship leaders 🤯❤️
As a creative - also recently diagnosed with ADHD - Amanda's story makes perfect sense to me. It's refreshing to hear so much from someone I feel I can relate to. Even the whole "not wanting to play in front of people" thing because it's so vulnerable...I always felt the same. I loved, loved, loved House on a Hill. It gave language to much of my own journey, and I was right there with her the whole way. I just loved this conversation. Thank you ladies, I admire you both so much.
Many many years ago I used to grab whatever kids in the neighbourhood who were allowed and wanted to come listen to worship music from Jon Buller and we were able to hear Amanda in Winnipeg once. It was a real blessing. I'll never forget.
Her worship brings me into His presence like no other, but let's pray for her. No more confusion! He is her firm foundation.
Thank you Amanda for sharing your heart! Faith is not necessarily something we hold on to but something that’s holding us when we let go!
I love this! We are declared righteous by the faith OF, not in, christ (Galatians 2:16 YLT). When we realize that He is the one holding us. He is the one, by the incarnation, that has created union with us (and all his creation). We realize that all our attempts to connect with God and try to make the Holy Spirit "come" or "draw near" are of works. That Grace is all on God's side and our union with God is already accomplished by Christ. We simply let go and fall into this ever present Grace where he has always already and forever will be holding us.
Wow!! I can so relate to everything she is saying❤Thank you Jesus that I am not alone.Worship is my weapon and Music is my life 🙏
I do have to say listening to bethel worship I have had to stay completely focused on God and his face bc it takes you on such a deep spiritual level you have to make sure your "with The Lord" there is definitely a fine line 🙏 I have ppl that have seen me listen to Bethel Worship music and worship the Lord and it freaks them out ,I think bc ppl just aren't used to seeing God move like that.I am grateful for all of Bethel Music ❤
Amanda, you feel relief when you sing & play piano because God designed you for music & worship unto Him. As Rita says, He gave you a unique gift to use for His glory. You were intricately wired by the father's hands to experience His presence, especially when you play the piano & sing 🎶 He loves your worship 💖 So thankful for your obedience to say yes even when it's hard. Your sacrifice has helped so many believers all over the world to experience His presence through your music. I've faced many challenges in my life and your songs have always centered me & brought me back to the feet of JESUS. Sending you my love from Australia!🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
“So Close” is so brilliantly crafted, every time I hear it I’m brought to tears in His presence.
Thank you Amanda for being courageous and stepping out to do an interview, knowing that judgment would come from people about where you are with God. I’ve been there, as some of us have. A challenging time comes, and our faith gets tested. We feel left in the grief, sometimes feeling as though we are in it alone. Who God is, and who He is to us gets questioned. It can feel like a great shaking. Sometimes, it can feel like we’ve lost what once was, and part of that is true. While God is never changing, our exploration of
Him is ever growing and expanding. He speaks in so many ways and touches all of us in different ways. You are free in Him, and you belong!
A couple of key take aways for me, from an extraordinary episode, were, "Movement (dancing, singing, moving) helps metabolize the things that we feel and the things we think." Yes, that totally resonates with me!!
Also, "If we don’t know how to behold we end up exploiting, and then we end up consuming (in our relationships with people). Beholding the miracle of what is causes us to interact entirely differently." I am all about beholding (and becoming like) Jesus, but to hear Amanda use and apply "beholding" in human relationships and how it keeps us from exploiting and using people for what they can give us (consuming) ... 🤯 She really put language to my thoughts and I 100% agree!
Thank you for this transparent and vulnerable conversation, Rita & Amanda! ❤
This comment section proves true to what Amanda was saying…💯 You absolutely cannot please everyone, nor will everyone understand you. I’m thrilled that Amanda sees this and doesn’t cower to other people’s fears. People are so afraid of what they don’t understand, what they don’t have a language or reference point for. A point in the podcast, that was also proven in the comment section. I went through a major life trauma about a year ago, and this podcast brought healing and understanding…it gave me some words for what I feel/went through. Thank you SO much ladies. I know there’s a cost that comes when you share your heart/personal experiences like this. ❤️❤️
It's seems disingenuous to depart from orthodoxy and then get offended when your views are called into question.
People can be new age if they choose to be, but let's be clear about it.
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@@RCGWho exactly. It has nothing to do with her, not being able to please people. I don’t share any of her believes at all and I find everything she says in this video very troubling. People aren’t going to understand her and are going to call to question any other things she’s saying and she’s just gonna have to learn to deal with that. That is totally 100% on her and no one else. Now if she comes back to orthodoxy a.k.a. the Bible, then, obviously people will understand that, but if she is unwilling to then that’s on her. My doctrine, which is strictly the Bible will never align with hers and that’s just the fact. The thing goes for many other orthodox Christians. Our doctrine will never align and again that is her problem. I nor anyone else that is a viable believing Christian should have to change our belief system to understand her or to make room for her. She can choose not to come back to the Bible, but Amanda needs to understand that she can’t take offense to people questioning her and finding the things she saying problematic, and in some cases downright heretical. God should be the only one that she wants to please. As Christians, we are not to live our lives for pleasing people. And she does not please God buy you holding onto all these new rage believe that do not align with his word. In order to please God, she must come back to the Bible.
What about pleasing God?
@@debandgil he’s the only one we should please. Are you directing that at me?
Thank you so much for this podcast, Rita! I appreciated Amanda's raw and real reflections about her internal process, her journey connected to her upbringing and faith perspective. I admire her courage to challenge herself to go deeper. to contemplate perspectives in the moment, and to admit she is still on the journey. I hope one day I can meet her and explore what makes her tick. She is a great gift, one who inspirers others to beyond their perceived capacity to reach their Divine potential. Thanks Amanda!
Kindness and grace on repeat. Love these honest conversations.
This was really refreshing! Amanda comes off as an innocent philosopher and she was a breath of fresh air to get her perspective on life and Jesus
She was a fresh breathe
Love you both. Thank you for your ministries and allowing yourselves to be vulnerable in front of others on your journeys. Blessings to you both.
Music is a gift from the Lord. He gives it to us to enjoy and glorify Him, we find our peace in Him and worship is the tool He uses to help us realize who He really is . And in return we find out who we are in Him.
Amanda is a literal genius.
@@elijahcolas8120 isn't God lucky to have her??
@@elijahcolas8120 Why do people keep saying this?
You are a blessing amanda! Thank you for allowing us to see you in those moments that are vulnerable. You are a breath of fresh air,. Your music...its freeing and restful, examining ❤ Thank you
Calling the act and privilege of leading worship (leading the Bride, the Body of Jesus Christ, thesaints, the flock... in worshipping the Almighty, Everlasting, Emmanuel, Holy One, Ancient of Days, Risen Lamb of God) *self-regulation* ? Where is the reverence? Where is fixing our eyes on Jesus instead of focusing on us and our issues?
I cannot get over how deeply this coversation grieves me.
Amanda and her worship really meant so much over the years.
I actually find this extremely offensive. I didn’t think this conversation could get any worse. Wow! The act of worshiping God or leading people into worship if not self regulation. Yikes! She is all about herself. And it’s sad that people are just eating this interview up. She brought no glory to God in this entire interview. No reverence for God or Christ whatsoever.
I agree with both of you. A day after watching this, my spirit is disturbed. Amanda seems lost; Rita seems overly complimentary of her, calling her "a genius," and "super smart." So little humility. And so many in the comments section applauding it all, while angrily calling those of us expressing genuine concern "Pharisaical, religious, critical, in fear, insecure, unloving," etc. Disturbing, all the way around.
I don’t even know why she’s a worship leader. She absolutely shouldn’t be. She cannot and should not be trusted to lead people into worship and she should not have any form of influence over the church, whether it’s worship leading or writing songs for the church to sing. I literally saw someone say isn’t God blessed to have her? Yikes! She is not on a level with God. God does not share his glory with anyone and Rita calling her a genius is quite awful. No one is more knowledgeable than God. Not me, not Amanda, not anyone. God is all knowing.
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This was very insightful. I do wish there was more of a deep dive into her past because it really explains her personality , how she is wired from childhood because of her family roots, their beliefs etc. It helps shed light on how she looks at the Lord and how that relationship is even framed because of her previous experiences. Its the same for every human being. Also ..lets just acknowledge she is not AMERICAN. I think we as the American church are so quick to judge things because people don't speak exactly like us or view/interpret the Bible like we do. How fragmented the collective church can be when we are comprised of so many cultures, upbringings, understandings and intelligence. Regardless, I appreciate the conversation and pray that God continue to lead/guide Amanda, Rita and the rest of us in the comment section , by the Holy Spirit into all Truth. Amen. ❤
You’re so creative and I love your heart Amanda. Yes, you have different language than some and that’s ok. You remind me of my nephew that plays piano. The way he connects when he plays a key on the piano is so beautiful 🥹. He loves God and he loves Beethoven. He is newly saved and is in awe of how he now knows God is the creator of the beauty in music. Pieces & Closer mean so much to me🫶🏼.
Wow! The song PIECES by Amanda has always spoken deeply to trauma from my childhood. I am so encouraged by this podcast as it rattles and hums in my soul to hear brave believers who are not afraid to be deep and real and raw. Rita - I love the question towards the end about what thing that burns in us. I love this newly found podcast and I believe in my heart and marrow that we will talk in person as this is such a liberating and cool ministry. Keep going! Talk to you soon.
I think this interview is a true gift; step back from over-judging her insight from the things she has read from Richard Rohr. Like many people, he has a lot of good insight into a walk with the Lord, but discernment is needed when the mysticism has gone too far and taken a later turn. Pray for him! Pray for all your brothers and sisters to remain or come back on the narrow path, but don’t condemn them.
Amanda is a wonderful gift; she is stepping out and giving you an articulate and rare insight into the processing of a woman of faith with an ADHD brain.
Her language is beautiful because it describes, after years of agonising wrestling, what has and is going on for her as she walks with Jesus.
The learning needs to come from us (UK over here, lived in USA and elsewhere too) that we are only just learning to understand neurodiversity being expressed in our world and in the Christian expression of faith. Look at it with the eyes and ❤ of Jesus and ask Him to show you how He sees her, and you will see His ❤ for her xx
That word Beholding is so good. I really treasure being present with people and find it exhausting to be around those who are so busy doing, exchanging and expecting. This talk gave another level of clarification of why I prefer the quiet & deeper connection with a person more.
This is something I'm growing in as well. The infinite eternal God is only found and experienced in this present now. So when we rehearse the past with regrets or fret about the future with anxiety we position ourselves outside the grace of God that gives us the peace and strength now.
I’ve been listening to Amanda in own super painful season- this came in right on time. I will be listening while I workout.
I REALLY appreciate this podcast with Amanda. As a worship leader I face many of the same issues that she describes, especially the part of how she uses music and worship to process. I wrestle with this too as a leader and I feel so weird when leading corporately for the same reasons!! Thank you for sharing!
Amanda your raw and realness felt in your music is an incredibly powerful gift. Thank you for being vulnerable with your sound and heart through your music it has helped heal and empower me throughout the years. I had the chance to talk to you briefly at City Church in Kirkland WA and you gave me a word and stopped to talk and it meant so much to me. The what if it can be different you express in this interview is what brings hope and growth to all who hear your music. I just listened to Before and After, Love Never Fails and Bitter/Sweet and that trio hits deep every time. Massive love for you and your music! Keep trucking hard, you are a light and worth the best and highest possible love in all the ways. Bless you!!
Thank you so much for this interview! So many profound statements that gave clear language to things I’ve felt in my walk… “this pinhole of light, the smallest possibility that things could be different - and that changes everything”
I had to pause it every few minutes to jot down a new favorite quote !!
'The Truth that holds when Iam not holding onto it '- Amanda Cook ❤❤❤❤
Wow! What a great podcast! There was a lot to think about and put language to. I think for me, what the Lord was stirring up, was that as creative who thinks and feels deeply about things, that it's ok if my work isn't like other people's and to not get caught up in, "Well, it has to be like this or that." I'm a photographer and it's always a constant battle to not compare myself to others especially with social media now adays. I think the way that I express my photography or express what God has put inside of me THROUGH photography just doesn't look the same as everyone else's way of expression and that's ok because that's how He's created me. I think that just watching this video has helped me realize that, so THANK YOU to the both of you! God bless!
Yes!! ❤❤❤“I thought faith was something I was holding onto.” It was His faith in me that’s been holding me the whole time.
Wow! This is me in a nutshell! Everything you are sharing is how I’ve learned to process life. I’ve always felt like a bit of an oddball because of how I see things but I’ve found more and more that worship is the one thing I do that brings me back to the center with God where I feel “normal”. Thank you for being so real and vulerable.
Me too!
This conversation resonates so much with what I am walking through with God Jesus and Holy Spirit in my life right now...thank you for your transparency Amanda
Your heart song has such a depth Amanda..... It stops me in my tracks breathtaking.... i have such a deep appreciation and love for You...
Hyper fixation is a result of low levels of dopamine….. Dopamine plays a big role in your reward system. When you do something that feels good, your brain releases a rush of dopamine. You naturally seek more of that good feeling by repeating the behavior that made you feel good…. She’s a persevering pioneer in the faith!!
That’s good “deconstruction” means different things to different people, I had built my house (relationship with GOD) on sand, other people faith,views,and MY Heavenly Father came told me son let us deconstruct and build upon THE ROCK, & praise HIM for it in JESUS NAME
Wow - that’s cool how you can make words mean whatever you want them to. Redefinition of definitions. Now that’s taking creativity to a whole new level. Certainly the logic of a genius.
Exactly. Any pass that is taken does not the path of following Christ will lead to death and destruction and hell. Those involved in this deconstruction movement think they are so much better off but they aren’t.
@10:00 min mark is very telling. Music is defined as the “only thing spacious enough to hold all of me” -Amanda Cook 😢 (A child of God would see their Savior Jesus Christ as plenty big enough to hold all of them. Psalm 139:7-12, John 10:29 “My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand.”) I agree with the other warnings in the comments, this is syncretism (new age + Christianity = deception)
Oh dear jesus, stop being so small and petty - she is saying that she encounters God specifically in MUSIC. That's where she feels the divine presence holds her completely.
@@ielickichher god is music… my heart breaks for her. She is very confused because she is having to re-evolve and rediscover and recreate her faith as she “learns” more in life. This is the problem with deconstruction. Remove the -con … you get destruction.
Missed the point by a country mile. If you don’t understand what ADHD does to the brain, then you probably won’t get the analogy.
“The piano knows what to do” …
It is a beautiful interview. Thank you!
Oh my goshhh this is so good. I’ve been evolving into a lot of these new revelatory ideals and explorations of indentifying God’s heart for us in these new ways. It’s amazing to see it happen amongst a wider range collective of believers. It’s been welling up in me, and to hear language being given to it, makes me feel less like I’m whacky for believing like this haha. 🤣 So so good! It’s truly about becoming more aware, and more present and it’s been a continuous process over the years, and I’m just so grateful for language being formulated through it. Love listening to ALL of this! 💕
Loved this conversation so much!! Glory to God for Amanda and Rita
Awesome interview! As a musician, She shares so much that I identify with but could never verbalize.
Oh wow, I have been thinking about her lately. Wondering what happened to her, how she was doing. She has an analytical approach to her faith which can be a plus because it makes her think and test things. It can be an issue if taken to the extreme. Learning how to rest in Jesus seems to be the key. Praying for her healing and the ability for her to just rest in His presence.
Change happens through the Holy Spirit… this inner self idea gets you in trouble quickly. Emotions cannot be trusted. I have ADHD, Jesus is my lifeline. This new ideology of deconstruction faith/reconstructing faith - it relies on self to make faith work. Trust the Holy Spirit to work in and through you.
Here to learn with a postured heart open to receive. Thank you for sharing this interview-personal testimony. It is real to me and respectfully vulnerable. Beautiful extension to help me find words to express how I feel I was designed and created-in terms of sharing the love of God here on earth-often feeling like I ride in a different vein of the heartbeat of heaven than the world. I love how each of us have a special and personal walk with Jesus. Spirit, soul, body. Tending to each as they are so intricately fused together. Miracles.
TY for being so candid about your struggles. Love House on the Hill. It akways brings me to a new level of quiet before God. When you talked about " survey" project, i thought of the old hymn "when i survey the wondrous cross..." Resurrection vibes. God bless you 🙏
More conversation and normalcy of mental health in the christian world 🔥
So much wisdom ❤❤❤❤❤❤ thank you Amanda and Rita!!!! More ppl like you 😉
These two are kindred spirits!! we are witnessing in the moment two amazing women of God realizing how similar they understand each other in deep levels, which is one in 1 million chances! And we get to behold the wonder of this episode 🤯
The weapon can be Worth. ❤❤❤❤❤❤ all of this has been so good but the last 5 minutes are manna!
I'm not trying to be judgemental, but isn't Jesus the map? Isn't the Word the map and being in the secret place listening for His still small voice. Isn't deeper and deeper relationship with the Lord always the answer? Her language seems like music is her comforter not the GREAT comforter.
Agreed . Where is the discernment in all this?? It’s foolishness . The Bible is our guide . Not psychological, mumbo jumbo.
@@janetwatkins1316 The spirit leads us into all truth not the Bible.
@@ielickich“All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.” 2 Timothy 3:16,17 Please don’t comment on the Bible when you don’t read it.
But I will say - Amen to original comment above!!!
What if Jesus is her DESTINATION, and music is the map Holy Spirit uses to get her to Him and His comfort?
@@debandgilThis verse is referring to the Torah, the scripture not the Word, who is Jesus, not a book. Books contain His words, but the book is not THE WORD who is Jesus. I don’t have a relationship with a book, but with the person of Jesus.
I Thank God..20 years ago was at Brownsville Revival School of ministry from South Africa forthose 2years. Rita came todo worship at morning ..missions week .The one worship song that was speaking to me..Was "It gone be worth it"realy waslife changing..as the American culture wasso different..But that song..wasa blessing.❤
I bet we know some of the same people. Small world! :)
Body of Christ, many of us are overly suspicious and not discerning at all. So quick to speak on things that they truly dont understand. Unable to discern between a fellow christian who is just wounded and hurting in need of some tender loving care from a person who is a reprobate. These two scenarios ain't the same.
May God help us.
Amanda, ❤🤗
It's not appropriate to listen to 90 minutes of new age and not say something. Baby Christian s may hear this and think it's normal and biblical.
I met a man named Murray Begg at The Last Footwear Company in New Zealand in 1987. He looked like an aging hippie and I asked him something about his faith. He told me that in his youth or young adult years (70's), he had gotten saved, but he'd grown and evolved so to speak and now he was into meditation or some new age thing.
Here's the thing. Jesus isn't a self-actualization program or a box we grow out of. We're supposed to remain as little children and not grow out of that simplicity in Christ.
@@RCGWho Zeal that is not submitted to Christ can be a dangerous thing. If you feel like your convictions come from the Holy Spirit He is powerful enough to convict others too. Holy Spirit is the One who convicts us of sin, He needs no extra help. So pray for others. It is not appropriate to start arguments in other believers comment section either. Everything ain't always as it seems. Discernment is a gift the Holy Spirit gives freely.❣️
According to Rohr's teachings, following Jesus is the "best shortcut" to salvation, but one does not necessarily have to practice formal Christianity. The key is to "fall in love with the divine presence, under whatever name." Rohr says people are disillusioned with conservative churches that teach that nonbelievers and followers of non-Christian religions go to Hell.
This speaks for itself !!!
Oooohhhh 😭 my heart. “kindness is very confronting”
Thank you for sharing about ADHD. I was diagnosed with it and learning disabilities over 15 years ago. I’ve found many Christian’s tend to speak down on individuals who have mental health issues. So I felt I had to hide it from those in religious settings. Although I’ve come off medication for it I still battle the symptoms but try to cover them up because the religious community still doesn’t seem to understand that it’s not just a “spiritual” battle. It’s an actual medical condition that I ask God to help me through each day.
I completely understand what Amanda is speaking about and I’m grateful she speaks about it unashamedly.
Thank you for this podcast.
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Rita - remember the Lord He is alone is God, and He alone is Holy. He shares what is His. If we are holy, it is His shared holiness imparted to us. It is nothing we have created or discovered. It’s His alone. To suggest that holiness is not reserved for the Lord alone is heretical. The angels know and recognize this. The demons know and recognize this. You may mean to say something else, be careful that you do not stumble others. 1:07:40 Scripture shows us how we are not righteous apart from God. “as it is written:
“None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands;
no one seeks for God.
All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
no one does good,
not even one.” Romans 3:10-12
Oh yikes! What time stamp did she say that?I think i’m going to move away from her podcast. The last few episodes minus the one with Mitch Wong have been very troubling. This one especially. That is absolute heresy. She needs to stop.
I’ll be working but hopeful I can tune in while I mow lawns! Love your content!
These videos have been such a blessing. I’m a worship leader in a small congregation in Fairhope, I’m a writer and praying and believing God will move me in the right directions and the right time.
I love your opening “worship is my weapon” could I use this line for a worship song?
I pray that every person that watches this knows Jesus for themself, is rooted in the word of God and can discern by the Holy Spirit what is right and what is just outright new age mess…💔
Watching from Phnom Penh 🇰🇭
OMG, AC just described and gave me language for my entire inner world, my creativity does not lie in music and in being a musician, but I have a deep deep, deep appreciation of what song and worship and music bring to me! I am a licensed mental health professional, I’m so accustomed to helping that I forget to look see me! I just want to mention also I am so excited, Miss Rita Springer, that you were coming to OpenDoor!
Richard Rohr? The divine? 😐 I was into buddhism and new age Christianity before finally giving my life to Jesus and sadly how she is speaking about God reminds me of this. I pray she continues her re-discovery of faith and if not already, that she falls safely into his arms. It is Jesus who loves you! It is Jesus who saves!
@@lilitalia777 God bless you. I’m so disturbed and concerned for everybody that’s saying that there’s no problem with her promoting him. All it takes is a quick search. He is a heretic. He believes that Jesus and Christ are separate and that Jesus didn’t need to die on the cross, but that your fault self needs to die. He doesn’t believe that scripture is true. There’s so much and people are just OK with her promoting him and saying that we just don’t understand. I’ve listened to her music. She seems like a sweet person but she is deceived and spreading not just her deception, but Richard Rohr’s deception as well. Both are leading people astray. I pray one day that she returned to the biblical teachings of Christ, but until then both her and Richard should be marked and avoided.
She specifically says Jesus is her God as a christian. You are listening but not hearing. Blinded and offended by certain language rather than what the spirit is saying.
@@tyeishaleisure Richard Rohr is a heretic for separating Jesus and the Christ into two distinct identities, but Jesus does indeed die on the cross so that everything that is wrong with us and all that is false in us “the old man” can be killed off and the true self of who we were created to be can come forth. Humans do have a true self and it isn’t defined by sin. It’s defined by Jesus who is the image of God in which we all are originally formed. This is something much of western Christianity completely overlooks and dismisses, and as a result it ends up getting hijacked by new age or other heretical philosophies such as Rohr’s rehashed Nestorianism.
As for Amanda, until she actively promotes Jesus and the Christ as two distinct identities, she’s not a threat to anyone.
Richard rohr probably has better theology than you
@@ielickich I'm not offended. I just said it reminded me of something I used to believe. I acknowledge I could be completely hearing it wrong because of my own history / bias. I love Jesus so much.. he literally saved my life.. and just pray for everyone to know him too! 🙏
Rita bring her back for a part 2 please
"...being wrong in Divine Love is so healing because it...doesn't punish all the wrong, it parents it."
From Richard Rohr's website:
Sunday, August 20, 2023
Father Richard Rohr is convinced that God’s justice in the Bible is fundamentally loving and restorative rather than punitive.
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I certainly recognize there are many biblical passages that present God as punitive and retributive, but we must stay with the text-and observe how we gradually let God grow up. Focusing on divine retribution leads to an ego-satisfying and eventually unworkable image of God which situates us inside of a very unsafe and dangerous universe"
-Richard Rohr
Note: I don't subscribe to his POV. Just letting his own words elaborate his perspective.
Beautiful! The revelation of God as father is what the spirit reveals! This is right on track!
@@RCGWho I love this! Thanks for quoting Richard Rohr - so profound and beautiful!
Fell adhd girlie listening on 1.25 speed while on a run. 😂 timely because long distance running requires being present. I’m gonna work on beholding the moment in my runs and beholding the presence of others.
I love this so much.. I have so much to say with not enough space lol thank you for this
Amanda, I'm really grateful to God for you. I have enjoyed your music, your form of worship, your style of worship. I thank God for you. You are big access to the Kingdom of heaven and God has been using you and will continue to use you. We must not give place to the enemy and his schemes. You are a part of a royal priesthood. When God created you he called you good. You are beautifully and wonderfully created. Anyone who doesn't understand that should go to the Creator✝️
The weapon can be WORTH! Wow, this hit deep for me ❤ too. Thank you for this podcast today. Something to survey 💕
The beauty of beholding is a close relative to gratitude and thanks-living
This talk is so vulnerable, honest, and necessary. The only part that breaks my heart is that so much of the answer lies within the very thing that Charismatic, Evangelical Non-Denominational churches reject: structure and order. If we'd just deal with the plot that the Bible actually presents and abandon the scattered-rhemya-word approach that has destroyed so many, we'd be a lot better off. The kind of Christianity that causes people to deconstruct is one that only thinks of the Scriptures in chapters and verses.
Ex: One Sunday, July 7, someone will read a few verses, tell the audience the theme they think is presented in those verses, give 3 points, then have an altar call. A lot of times, no cultural or Scriptural context is given and they don't explain how those verses relate to Genesis 1 through 3-the point from which Genesis 4 - Revelation 22 stems from.
The very first time we see a man and woman in the Bible is Genesis 1:26: “Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
The first identity we get of a human is an image bearer of God ("…make man in our image, after our likeness"). Before we learn about humans being kings, sons, daughters, spouses, repairmen, ambassadors, singers, Levites, emperors, friends, etc., we learn that they are image bearers of God. Before we learn humans relation to the world and society, we learn their relation to God. Every story in the Bible from Genesis 2 - Revelation 22 bears in mind "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness."
Because of our chapters-and-verse approach, we don't understand that we are modeled after and by God himself! He's the source from which and in which we have out being (Acts 17:28). This is why the Psalmist says, "Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them." Before I am anything-husband, son, father, teacher, singer, gardener, etc.-I am known by God and designed to reflect his image (his kindness, love, generosity, grace, standard of rightness, holiness, etc.). ADHD, PTSD, loveless marriages, abusive homes, drug addiction, corrupt politics, Jesusless churches, etc. could all be resolved if we'd just lean into Genesis 1:26 and allow the grace that flows from it to confront and correct our sin, failures, and flaws. As long as we neglect the reality that we exist in the world but are ONLY sustained IN God, we will forever be in a state of deconstructing and reconstructing in search of what can ONLY be found in God.
Simple but not.
Thank you so much Amanda and Rita for this conversation. As someone who has been wrestling with my faith, this interview really drew me closer to God. Thank you for reminding us that we can bring our questions to God and we do not need to pretend. Love you both!
I understand maybe 15% of what was said. 😂
Not sure about this episode, but LOVE this podcast and you, Rita! ❤
Read Richard Rohr's book Falling Upward, Immortal Diamond, Universal Christ - it'll change your life. She is referencing a lot of his material.
@@ielickichNo please don't encourage people to read those books. It is new age repackaged as "Christianity". I fell for this when first coming out of Buddhism because it was more a god of my making. We all need JESUS. 💕
@@ielickich please don’t encourage people to read his books. What he teaches is not Christianity.
@ielickich I guess he talks about the concept of " beholding". He also has article on Gender and Sexuality titled "Wide-Eyed Seeing " online that you can Google.
@@lilitalia777 Richard Rohr is a brilliant kind, gentle, wise spiritual elder and a gift to the Body of Christ - you're ignorance and dualistic tribal religious thinking blinds you to what the spirit is saying and revealing.
The “yaawwww” drives me nuts, I am so sorry. This was a great interview!
The enemy has a counterfeit for everything but that does not mean the genuine, original from God does not exist. Someone in the comments mentioned that ALL music carries a frequency & vibration - even diseases have frequencies! The Lord created heavenly frequencies and you can discern it, especially in worship music ❤ I'm just using this as an example because some are commenting this interview contains too many "new age" terms however we are forgetting that the devil has a counterfeit and those expressions aren't necessarily automatically sinful. In Genesis we read that God created all things for His glory. The earth itself has a vibration - this in itself is not evil. We need to listen with the guidance of the Holy Spirit & not jump to conclusions out of fear.
Thank you so much for your vulnerability, Amanda. I'm looking fowards to hearing your next project. I'm still adoring your recent album "survey" - it's taken me on a beautiful journey 🩷🙏🏻
If scripture emphasized or even mentioned frequency and vibration, I'd pay attention to that. It doesn't.
So grateful for this conversation. I feel so seen as well!
I cannot with this comment section 😂 everyone tends to gravitate towards fearing what they don’t know, and placing a judgement on something they haven’t given themselves space to explore without fear. If you know, you’ll know, it’ll resonate. If it’s over your head, and you can’t comprehend these deeper ideals, then pray and ask Jesus to expand your mind, there are many thing Jesus didn’t even write about because he had so much more to tell us, but there wouldn’t even be enough books to write to be able to contain or scribe it all. It’s limitless, Jesus is limitless, and to revelated by him, its gonna sound different than what we’ve been conditioned to believe, and he’s doing a NEW thing, and it’s springing forth, and we should be open to just observing, learning, growing, getting out of our heads and out the systems and traditions that we’ve learned, and become like children, in awe in wonder willing to ask questions, willing to expand in our curiousity. We’ve been conditioned or abused or controlled by being told to shut up. Don’t ask questions, that it’s black and white, or it’s demonic, or it’s “new age”, well it is a NEW ERA and a new age, and the former things are passing away, he’s doing NEW things, he’s sharing his heart in NEW ways, and to stay in a box of “no, it has to be like this… well that is limiting. It’s BEYOND what we can even, think dream or imagine when it comes to God. And that is OKAY! 🫶🏼
Beautifully said ❤
It has nothing to do with that at all. We should fight for pure biblical worship. In other words, we should not allow people who promote false teachers to be in a position of worship leader. Amanda seems very sweet, but her promotion of heretic Richard roar will lead many astray. Richard Rohr is a universalist, mystic, and newager meaning his beliefs do not align with the Bible. His Christ is one of his own making. God has no tolerance for false teachers or false teaching, or the promotion of false teachers and false teaching. We are told in Galatians 1: 8-9 that anyone that comes preaching a different gospel, even if it’s an angel will be cursed by God. We are not to except every spirit but test each spirit to see if it’s from God. Read 1 John 4:1-4 We are not to have any association with false teachers at all2 John 11:13. If Amanda is promoting someone like Richard war can she or should she be trusted to leave people into worship of God in Christ? The answer is no. Just like an atheist, muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist should not be trusted to lead people into worship of God in Christ or to write songs for the church or to preach. Worship leader Matt Redman who has been leading worship and writing songs for the church for almost 30 years says that people get their theology from the song they sing at church more than they do from the Bible meaning it is crucial that the songs churches are singing are biblical. If you are a worship leader and songwriter, but your beliefs are unorthodox and fall into Universalism mysticism and New Age territory send you should not have any influence over the church. Yes I am 100% drawing a hardline. At one point during this interview, Amanda refers to Jesus as our guy Jesus. Jesus is more Zan just a guy. He is God incarnate. He is the savior of the world the only one who could die on the cross to take away our sins. One of the many false teachings from Richard Rohr is that Jesus didn’t need to die on the cross, but it is your fault self that needs to die. He believes that Jesus in Christ are separate. None of that is biblical. It is absolute heresy. The wrong view of Christ can and will lead to false teaching and false worship.
@frankchavez9443 I watched this video on the day it was first released. Since then, I have watched it completely at least 5 times, and parts of it many more times. It has been 3 weeks since it was posted and I have thought about almost everyday. As a born again Christian, I am very alarmed by this.
So much of it is psychobabble, trying to work out psychosis with each other rather than working out their own salvation and life with fear and trembling before God and by His scripture. Rather than taking each other’s needs together before the Lord Jesus.
If you keep on moving in this direction, and the psychology of it all, then you’re not ever reaching out to God for any solution, you’re trying to fix it through anything other than him.
Amana and Rita, sadly several times you seemed to intentionally steer away from the Bible. I was very troubled when first viewing this.
Then, all of it came together at 36:00 when Amanda mentions Richard Rohr. Richard Rohr, who does not believe in the original sin of Adam and Eve. Richard Rohr, who thus does not believe Jesus was our substitutionary sacrifice on the cross because he does not believe one was needed. Richard Rohr, who does not believe that Jesus is THE Christ because he believes THE divine is in everyone AND in everything. That it is all about “christ consciousness”.
That explains why Amanda uses the same terms that Richard Rohr uses, and are also used in other religions other than Christianity, and also in New Age thinking. The entire teaching of contemplative mysticism needs to once again be exposed. For it is nothing but teaching people to keep their minds on anything but Jesus Christ and it is nothing more than the original demonic proclamation from satan that surely God did not mean what He said. It plays on ones ego by saying that it is the answer to what has been hidden from them. This is the very definition of “occult”. It is “mystical”. This is where the deconstruction fad is coming from.
Yes, is good that a Christian should often take inventory of what they believe in accordance to what the Bible actually says. But, to deconstruct and then attempt to reconstruct away from the Bible is not just dangerous, it could be eternally catastrophic.
This is dangerous for the body of Jesus Christ and the content should not celebrated.
@TimBnf2t17 🎯
@@TimBnf2t17 well said.
Amanda I know this language/expression and how you speak about music and melodies.. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour. This is a gift of expression creativity but people will not understand… I like musical/savant.. ❤️ Laura C worship… Sounds and vibrations…
That was profound!
There is a dangerous new age vibe to this and it’s very concerning .
New Age? You mean Orthodox Christian Mysticism.... It's too bad most of the American Evangelical Church has been co-opted by a largely modern pagan religion and then dares to call the ancient faith "New Age" because of their severe incompetence and lack of understanding of the genesis of the faith.
@@ielickich you solidified my point exactly !
Just not a modern westernized church spin. Thats all.
@@ree4214 it’s way more than that. The universal Mystic Christ is not the Christ of the Bible . Her quoting Richard Rohrs writings confirms and affirms support for the theology And her language is saturated in that philosophy. Very dangerous stuff .
@@ree4214 nothing to do with that. Her Christ is a New Age Mystic Christ not the Christ of the Bible. she quotes, Richard roar, a universalist, New Ager, mystic, and heretic. The biblical Christ is the only one that should be worshiped. Her beliefs are rooted in New Age doctrine and mysticism, neither of which are biblical.
💫 All the way to the moon and back … for starters 🚀
Yes this!!
Yep. More proof not everyone is not like me, and our God is so extremely wonderful and cool 😂 in Jesus amen❤
I am listening to Mike Winger on youtube talk about Bethel's "Bridge to the New Age". It's mostly addressing the book still sold in Bethel's bookstore titled The Physics of Heaven by Judy Franklin and Ellyn Davis. Beni and Bill Johnson contributed to it as well. It discusses one of the authors moving to Sedonna, AZ, and " extracting the precious from the worthless" from the New Age, thereby co-opting New Age practices for use by the Christian. The concept of sounds and vibrations are discussed.
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Where is Jesus in all of this Amanda ? Something is off
I used to listen to Amanda Cook's song brave and I wonder what happened to her in recent years.
As I began to pay more and more attention to the worship songs of the last decade I realized how humanistic and secular they were.
I hope that Amanda has returned to true faith. I'm going to watch this video.
Is it just me or has this become a grand talk of love of / fascination of / curiosity of / discovery of / worship of … SELF, not JESUS CHRIST.
@@debandgil it’s not just you. There’s nothing about Jesus in this at all. The little that is in here about Jesus is either not biblical or still and appointing back to them. I don’t mind when artist and worship leaders share their testimony, but it can’t be all about them. Christ needs to be glorified.
If we enter his courts with thanksgiving, whose courts are we in with our criticism?
Great interview. Thanks Rita for inviting Amanda to the podcast and not being afraid of the opinions and criticism of the "charismatic evangelical american church" that loves to hurl judgements about anything they don't understand. I was so excited to hear Amanda talking about Richard Rohr! He is a wonderful gift to the Body of Christ - please read his books they are life changing! Holy Spirit is always at work and she is revealing the goodness of God and the love of the Father to the world, and maybe more importantly the Church. I believe we are in a reformation, and while Charismatics are looking for another "revival" the revival has already started! It's believers deconstructing the nonsense beliefs about God and separation theology. The HS is at work revealing to the world that we are all his Children and his love is relentless and he will save his good creation.
I loved what Amanda said towards the end about about the meaning of her name "she who must be loved." All of God's good creation is worthy of love and God truly thinks "my beloved who must be loved." He so loves us that he has imparted himself into our very being. As Athanasius says, "God became man, so we could become God." God has saved us in his Son, by the incarnation, and at the very depth and inner being of every person is the "I AM" of God. So true Spirituality as Rohr says, is much more about letting go or "unlearning" then it is about learning. We simply fall into the Grace the very presence of God in our innermost depths. Blessings!
2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless*** the falling away ***comes first, and the man of [b]sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
2 Thessalonians 2
There is a pressure, lots of pressure we put on each other,teachers/pastors/church buildings, pressures to follow other peoples views,visions, what GOD told you to do, we are following other peoples JESUS, visions,calls, instead of seeking first our GOD His Kingdom, we really never talk how JESUS was like 30 before he ever showed up on the seen, I’m thinking He had much time alone with GOD
There’s supposed to be pressure. Those in the faith in leadership positions like leaders and pastors, a must have the correct beliefs about Christ. The same goes for worship leaders, and songwriters. If they don’t, they have no business being in their positions. What worship leaders, writers, and pastors believer about Christ should be rooted in scripture, not New Age teachings non-mystic teachings not heresy, not man own opinion or secular philosophies. There was in these positions are held to a higher standard. It won’t be judged much more harshly.
6:00 I do walk around singing all day 😂 yes singing though does bring me joy!
It seems like understanding her can be challenging at times. I understand that it can be confusing to interpret what she says, and I sometimes feel that I may not be on the same level as her when it comes to her meditation and philosophy.
Just stick with Jesus... talking lofty, deep and spiritual doesn't matter if you don't know Jesus :)
She mentioned Richard Rohr and that lost me completely. Many think of him as a wise sage, but I am simply not a big fan of his heretical message and his doubt of the Bible. He's lead so many astray.
I agree with you. However, if you do not have the maturity to sift through what you do and don’t agree with, that’s your loss. It’s a stunning podcast and conversation. If everyone I listened to lost all their credibility off one quote, I would have no one left to listen to. 😂
I loved how she mentioned Richard Rohr! His writings and ministry have been life-changing and so meaningful to me and my friends.
People who receive from his teachings need to go do research. As far as I can tell, he’s somewhat of a universalist.
Agreed. 😢 That and constantly saying "the divine" .. where is Jesus?
She is just another human sharing her life journey. No need to believe she is the be all and end all.
I love Jesus and being a Christian however other Christians can sometimes make it hard to run towards the church because of how they can be. I see the same things there as in the world which is suppression of individuality which is possible in community. I’m all for qualified folks to speak into my life but I don’t appreciate folks trying to dictate this personal walk with Christ when we have access to the same Bible and Holy Spirit which we are each capable of interpreting for ourselves. People don’t like when you can think for yourself. Super honest share though my only fear sometimes is that I may be deceiving myself and I’m leading myself to hell and the majority group think people are going to heaven. I wonder if God warns you if you’re going there before it happens because I don’t currently feel He is displeased with me as long as I forgive and love others even if from a distance. Blessings all who read this 🙏🏾❤️
You should think for yourself, on one level like the Bereans, but it should all be filtered through scripture.
@@RCGWho absolutely agree. I believe the Holy Spirit helps also in many ways on this walk with interpretations of things not explicitly stated in the Bible.
I'm not really familiar with New Age jargon, centering oneself, etc, so a lot of this made no sense to me. The whole interview seemed to be about this young woman's feelings and various mental issues, not glorifying God through worship.
What you think is "New Age" is actually orthodox mystical Christianity. It's just not understood by most of the American Evangelical Church Complex.
There was no new age jargon….rather it was full of language a person who’s been through a great deal of pain and grief only knows. So if it didn’t make sense, you most likely haven’t been through severe trauma and actually walked through it rather than avoid it.
@@cherimarquesrestorationacr2915 I endured much trauma, but instead of self fixing it, Jesus delivered me, literally overnight. That's the power of the Gospel. Now I'm more than a conqueror through Christ.
It's almost as if she's more then a worship leader. Crazy isn't it.
You have to work on your listening skills man.
Wow. I'm about 70% of the way through this. I'm really not sensing a lot of awe, love, or reverence for God Almighty. At around the 45 minute mark, she refers to Him as "our guy, Jesus." I recoiled inwardly. This is way, way too casual for any believer, let alone a well-known worship leader. I think she worships herself, her "journey," and that *music* is her god. She doesn't sound like she's got healthy, mature believers around her, helping to keep her (or get her back) on the right path. Rita, in love, you're the older sister here, you should be one of those. Watch over yourself, also. None of us is above deception ❤
(Edited: I decided to turn it off.)
You’re not wrong at all. She is very much in love with herself. The comment below yours says that she preferred to worshiping and leading worship as self regulation. It’s so sad to see the lack of reverence and see how she makes everything about her. I don’t know what people are getting from this interview. I can’t listen to someone who has such a lack of reverence for God and our savior. There’s nothing to gain from listening to her.
@@tyeishaleisure💯
The saddest part is the defense of her. There’s not one part of this interview that brings God glory. And her defenders are saying you just don’t understand ADHD or you’re not meant to understand what she’s saying. First of all, no one would have an issue with understanding her if she wasn’t just somebody talking and absolute word salads and if her beliefs aligned with scripture I was quoting from the Bible rather than a well-known heretic and second, no one should have to except her belief system, which is clearly not in alignment with scripture or biblical Christianity. And as far as blame it on her ADHd, ADHD is no excuse for promoting a heretic it’s also not an excuse for a lack of reverence for God in Christ. She’s a well-known worship leader who should know better. God is it going to give her a pass because of her ADHD. As she was like this back in 2018. She was featured on the song by another Worship Leader and when asked to give her thoughts on the theme and message of this song, she completely steamrolled the conversation. The conversation went from being about being honest with the Lord and the freedom. There is in being honest with the Lord, as well as vulnerable to being about the science of music. This story behind the song segment was a small two or three minutes portion of a larger video. Another Worship Leader Steffany Gretzinger was featured on the song as well, and the only two people who were actually on topic were the writer and singer of the song Pat Barrett and Steffany Gretzinger. Amanda was completely off-topic. I honestly found it quite rude. Pat Barrett has never invited her to be a part of a song again while he still continues to work with Steffany Gretzinger. One last thing she comes off is very smug. There’s a smugness to the way she speaks because she chooses to talk in a way that gives off the impression that she’s at a level with God that no one else can achieve. Tax humility. Most of her solo music is about herself as well.
@@tyeishaleisureSmugness?!? Wow, respectfully brother/sister in Christ - that's your own personal interpretation. I didn't get smugness at all! She is very kind & humble. Perhaps if you met her in person you could witness it for yourself 😊 Her use of advanced language is not to show-off, it's embedded in her DNA. Please don't misunderstand her. We don't all talk or process the same way... That is the beauty of the Body of Christ. Some of us are called to explore poetry, science & creativity, with the intention of glorifying Jesus Christ of course. Blessings to you ❤
@@RoseP-e8c I agree with you 100%. Amanda is a child of God and I have been blessed by her ministry and continue to. She is secure in who she knows the Lord to be and gives herself the freedom to be misunderstood. The Lord knows those who are His and I believe Amanda is one of His.
I resonated a lot with what she said and some I didn’t. There is a reason for that. I am not on her journey. It is not my walk. My walk with Lord led me also to a contemplative heart and prayer. There is a saying that says “ Take what you need and leave the rest”. When some one is expressing their journey it is not always going to hit home and check all boxes that we think should be checked. Let her iron sharpens iron people walk with her.. What others have called new age is actually some old ways coming to light but we call it new age because new agers have taken some of our former practices and made it their own. Contemplative mediation is one of them. We can meditate with the Lord and on scripture and stop and listen. We as humans can learn from each other, good bad or indifferent. Be kind.