Bill Introduced to GUARANTEE Truck Drivers Overtime Pay (Guaranteeing Overtime for Truckers Act)
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Bill Introduced to GUARANTEE Truck Drivers Overtime Pay
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Join Ronen in this critical video as he sheds light on the recently proposed bill designed to guarantee overtime pay for truck drivers. What seems like a positive change may have darker implications, and Ronen is here to uncover the truth. Discover who stands to be most affected by this bill, who might escape its impact, and why it's being labeled as disastrous for the trucking industry. In a field already grappling with numerous challenges, this new bill adds another layer of complexity.
Don't miss out on understanding the potential pitfalls - tune in now to stay informed!
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📚 Chapters
00:00 Introduction - Bill introduced to guarantee truck drivers overtime pay
00:19 Who would get affected by this new Bill?
00:42 Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938
00:59 Who would get affected by this new legislation if it gets approved?
01:15 Who will NOT get affected by this new Bill?
01:39 Who wants this Bill to come out and thinks it will benefit the trucking industry?
01:50 Todd Spencer, President of the Owner Operator Independent Drivers Association
02:32 The American Trucking Association
02:53 Chris Spear, ATA's President and CEO
03:29 Chris Spear, President & CEO of the American Trucking Association
03:47 Alex Padilla, US Senator
04:24 Why is this Bill HORRIBLE for Truck Drivers?
04:52 Understanding Over Time Pay
05:29 Limiting Hours - Truck Drivers won't get more than 44 hours during a work week
06:11 Team Drivers
07:12 The Trucking Company you work for will LIMIT your hours
07:29 Trucking Companies going out of business
07:41 Base Rates will Decline
08:21 Conclusion - This is NOT the time for a new Bill for the Trucking Industry
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Never seen ronen so fired up, obviously he’s against this since his company will have to pay more to there driver
LOL!!!
Lol he is lol 😢
Of course,he probally takes loads for 1.15 a mile.Now he has to pay a fair wage every other industry gets.It wont be a disaster,far from it.If the companies play games the drivers will just quit and move on to one that doesnt.Cut miles or hours and your gonna lose all your drivers.Good luck telling Bob whos been w the comp for 31 yrs hes gotta slip seat now......LOL😅
Only three possibilities here.
1. You use owner operators
2. You pay overtime
3. You pay higher wages so that truckers can survive on 44 hours and not quit the industry.
What this video suggests is somehow doubling your workforce for half the wages. Good luck
Sounds about right 👍
I think O/O would become more expensive too.
My thinking is why would I keep my truck, work in it all week then under it every weekend when as a driver I could make better money than before without the hassles of my own truck.
Im a company driver use to be OTR , and hate all the time wasted and not getting paid for., so is FAIR to get paid after 40 hrs of work like anybody else!!.
BUT if truck companies would get greedy and reduce pay per mile, then i think will not be worth it for me as a company driver.
Rates would definitely increase that’s for sure. OTR needs to get paid fairly. That’s why I quit and do local. I make more driving a class B truck, home everyday, and less hours than a class A OTR gig.
This video is not suggesting doubling your workforce for half the wages, the government is. This is a misguided regulation!
I too get paid per hour and overtime after 40 hours. I can work 60 to 70 hours a week. I rotate with a partner and we both keep our truck clean and safe. Needless to say we are making great money and are home daily. This should be available to ALL of YOU!
Driver - I am a company driver running recap HOS monthly every month - I do not pay rent and my bill are all but non existent- I pull in 9k after taxes.
This idea of paying over time for driver like my self is delusional-
Companies would hire O/O to haul it would be cost savings -
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Not all of us what to be like you
wow what company
@@coldfusion5153 Gazelle Transportation. We haul crude oil. I wasn't trying to brag. Just had to comment on the company video telling you he doesn't want drivers to be paid for giving up their life to earn money for them.
@@bouquetchocolatesandconfec77 @bouquetchocolatesandconfec77 so you don't pay rent have no bills? is that what you mean? As much as we want little bills, so you don't have home?
It's just big companies not wanting to pay us for what we are worth.
They’re also scared some truckers may lie about their wait time at shippers and receivers in order to purposefully raise their pay.
@@Nihil2005you have an ELD can prove how long you are there
Aldo bol has check inn time and leaving time
They have allowed their competition with each other blind them. It's too easy today for a carrier to go bankrupt but they continue to point the finger at the driver. The backbone of every carrier, the backbone of every company.
You don't want to pay people a fair wage
As an owner operator I hope it goes through. Tender rejections will go through the roof, mega carriers will lose a lot of drivers
Youre totally right. For the first time in awhile, this willl be a long term win for owner ops.
They won’t lose drivers they’ll only value retention more.
Agreed
I work as an hourly driver earning 1 1/2 times my hourly pay after 40 hours of work. I would not accept a job that doesn’t pay me a premium wage after 40 hours of work ! For the last 15 years I’ve been working 55+ hours a week.
"Fully support this legislation! It's high time truck drivers get fair compensation for every hour they put in, not just the miles on the road. This bill isn't just about overtime; it's about recognizing and valuing the hours drivers spend waiting, loading, and doing other essential tasks. Yes, it might increase operational costs, but it's a necessary step towards ensuring that the backbone of our supply chain - the truckers - are treated with the respect and fairness they deserve. Better pay could also help alleviate the driver shortage by making the job more attractive. It's an investment in our drivers' well-being and the health of the industry. #FairPayForTruckers"
Sounds like union speak to me, there always talking and respect and being fair.
As a former teamster I support this message 💯 👍
I fully agree.
I disagree that trucking company’s will be able to all theses extra drivers to slip seat the trucks. By that logic the industry would need double the amount of drivers as now.
According to the ATA they’re a driver shortage! Lol, we all know that’s a lie. Big trucking is lying again.
They’re a fair pay issue with truck driving that cause the high turnover in the industry.
By the way there are company’s that pay hourly right now and don’t require slip seating. I suppose they don’t all pay time and half but even if they would have then I’m not convinced they would be able to easily hire enough driver to slip seat every truck.
Let's not forget the human element in this debate: truckers and their families. These hardworking individuals spend long hours on the road, often away from their loved ones, to keep our supply chains moving. Supporting fair pay for truckers isn't just about economics; it's about respect and recognition for the sacrifices they make every day. Fair compensation for all their work, including non-driving tasks, is a step towards acknowledging their invaluable contribution to our society. It's about ensuring that they can provide for their families and have a quality of life that they rightfully deserve. Let's stand in solidarity with our truckers for fair pay and better working conditions. #RespectAndFairPayForTruckers
Absolutely not! Our time will be cut down drastically. We will not make as much money
Yes pay overtime. If companies cut pay most of drivers will quit if they can make same money working in town . That’s a good thing, rates goes up, owner operators make more money while big carriers make less money of drivers. Sounds good to me. There is going to be more and more owner operators, while less and less big companies who makes to much money of poor drivers. Bring in on! Over time! Yes!
Hell yea!
Exactly
What you described is exactly what the ATAs main goal is.
Big truckings interest is to keep their power so they can manipulate the freight market, and to prevent smaller Carriers & OO from gaining market share by Trying to pull the ladder up behind them.
Just seems like company owners are upset at this. Drivers support it.
The companies can’t just double the number of drivers overnight. Sounds like a great time to buy your own Rig and make some bank while the industry adjusts to the transition.
Treating the drivers like dogs for years will come around to bite the fleet owners in the butt. Enjoy.
You’re really only saying it from a fleet owner perspective. Not a driver perspective. Sure if I was a fleet owner I’d be saying the same thing. But let’s say the bill passes and all companies start capping drivers at the 40 hour mark and drivers make between 55-62 cpm (national average) . The drivers will leave and even less people will get into the industry. That’s 4 10 hour shifts of driving so potentially around 1500-2000 miles if you get good runs and have a good dispatcher. Thats 1200 gross a week MAX and on a VERY good week given the potential changes you talked about. But if the companies still kept the same structure and the overtime rule went into effect then we’d make a lot more money. Significantly more money in fact. Also the idea that you’ll get more team drivers for that kind of money is absurd. It’s hard enough nowadays to get people to drive team now. Let alone if you’ll be doing slip sitting teams. The other thing is that if we did go to 40 hour work weeks the companies would have to pay significantly more per mile or go to a per hour pay rate just to keep drivers. So either way if this rule passes and fleets cap the hours of the drivers they’ll be forced to pay more per mile or per hour to keep us. EITHER WAY the drivers will benefit. I get that it sucks as a business owner . I get your point but you’re definitely not seeing it from a driver pov. You’re seeing it as a fleet owner because you’ll have to pay your guys more for the same job they were doing before the bill. That’s my 2 cents anyway.
Or here’s an idea, pay truckers an hourly wage.
F@ck that
Never happen
@@Joe_Hunt_Music happens in most places tho
@@Joe_Hunt_Musicwhy not? I get paid hourly local with overtime and double time and union pension just to name a few goodies
Would be easy to do with eld
😢30 years into it and I earn about the same than 20 years ago - it just buys me half the stuff than 20 years ago 😂... Trucking used to be a way out of poverty, now it's a way straight back in!
Straight back into poverty if you’re not willing to change your lifestyle or spending habits.
@@Nihil2005 What do you mean by that?
Hard to believe Truck drivers were excluded from overtime pay when literally every other industry has to be paid overtime….. When I first started trucking I was completely shocked by this….. I’ve been in manufacturing for most of my life so I have a unique perspective on this…. Did Ronen really say truck drivers are getting paid fair 😂😂😂
Yes he did.
Rowan is a SHILL for the ATA
As an owner operator I'm looking forward to the higher rates this chaos will lead to (temporary though they may be).
Facts
He sounds like he is against the owner op
I’m looking forward to the chaos too! The world is so boring right now 😂
In other words you kiss the boots your boss, and thank him for letting you work 70 hours a week. You also get the bonus of missing every family event. Aren't you guys lucky.
How are you going to find a part time driver in an industry thats already so short handed? You know why its so short-handed? Because 90% of trucking companies pay absolute garbage to run you into the ground. I think it's a good start but unfortunately Truckers are fighting an uphill battle.
I think your right that it will disrupt the industry. It needs it. People need to realize that shipping rates are too low. Our wages, our equipment is expensive and people need to get that the industry sucks!!!
There aren't enough drivers as it is, so maybe carriers will be forced to increase rates to pay a good driver for the full time? Even O/Os will consider their time worked over regular hours.
A tradesman gets big money for taking on an out of town job.
Truckers make decent money per year. But always away from home without the same kind of bonus. And the amount of hours worked for the pay received is garbage!!!! I despise this industry
And of course the trucking associations would be against it. They're not for the trucker, they're for the big trucking company business owners!!
You realize right this would put pressure on ceos in trucking companies like ronin to put pressure on brokers and customers to pay better, BECAUSE, despite ronin clear as day dismissiveness, he wouldnt make you guys sit especially otr, you cant slip seat regional or otr, so the only course would be to put pressure on these shipper,recievers,and brokers to pay better, so it would increas frieght rates especially for o/o because dont wanna pay overtime for company drivers, pay o/o better rates to where it would be better then paying overtimes, but better then what they are doing to cheap rates gthey have now... REMEMBER ronin used to be a truckers... he has been a ceo for quite awhile now... the ceo mindset has kicked in. Nothing wrong with that, but remember in situations like this he is going to see this from the truckers perceptions..... AND GUESS WHAT??? he know it cause he clearly had to try and explain that it is a truckers perceptions, but i when he said that i got the vibes i get, when i have been around manipulators.. I think he is full of something, and he knows it
Company owner giving driver’s perspective lol
I know its a absolute joke
A way they can improve the pay system is to just completely nix the overtime idea and strictly only allow hourly pay. No more sense per mile or salary for truck drivers. That way all time is paid waiting around at shippers and unpaid time with the numerous amounts of tasks that are involved in trucking.
That would be settling, we've been settling for way too long.
As a company, OTR, truck driver if this becomes "law" and the company I work for cuts pay I'd quit the very next day. At $0.70/mile, it's BARELY enough pay to be on the road for months at a time. I'll leave the industry all together, fuk it all.
$0.70 CPM isn't enough for you!! Tell me more!! 🤔
@ne9835 Well, in order to get $0.70 per mile, you have to be on the road a minimum of 2 months, no 34 resets, mon - sun, day n night. I would never, ever, do this job for less than $0.7/mile. It's not worth it. Running on recaps limits how much you can drive and, therefore, limits your earning potential.
I think this is great news, most drivers will get 44 hours only… However, skilled company OTR drivers that already do 70 hours a week, pick up and deliver loads on time and successfully will not see a decrease in hours. They may be teamed up but their value will only increase. This is great news for all drivers in my OPINION. Only fleets see this as bad news. Cause they gotta pay more now 😆. Now pay your professionals like any other professional should be paid.
I think instead of getting an overtime pay for OTR drivers just give us a $50 or $75 every night we're out on the road away from home
Something needs to change because drivers are not paid what their worth. You know Something. My mechanic never gives me the first 2 hrs of labor free🤔
Nope!!
Truckers deserves more pay no matter what and Carriers knows that. Detention, layovers, and CPM is way less than what they should make.
It’s a start. Thank God. We run America and it’s time for brokers and companies to feel what we’ve been feeling for a long time. Heres another idea. Pay them per diem for overnights , overnight premiums, and other incentives for being away from their families.
Remember guys this guy is an owner of a trucking company. Also our pay industry wide is so bad. And from what I’ve seen lots of companies like to play games to get you working for free. In the end they will need to pay you A decent wage at 40 or fail. I make 32.55 an hour at 40 hours I make more then most do working 60 hours over the road.
I have seen the rail roads lose a lot of business to the the trucking industry. It seems like the last 30 years they had started a come back with container freight.With manitory over time this will continue till over the road trucking in a much smaller part of moving freight.
@@markrupprnkamp5832 Hope not. 👀👀
If that’s the case then nobody will be driving no more… bring this law on it will be hard at first just like elds but will eventually become a good thing
I wouldn't kick a 40 hour work week out of bed
Oh no more time with my family being there for my kids... this is awful we should stop this
Most of my runs were beyond the scope of 4 days so I’m not sure how I’ll be slip seated out of my truck 3500km from home. I’ll just stick to industry where my bosses don’t see me as a burden and a nuisance. Please send my condolences!
More drivers will become op, that’s just a big problem for big companies.
So company drivers that already get paid hourly, this will not affect that right?
It’s only drivers that get paid by the mile
I was a company driver for 20 years and I got paid overtime anything over 40 so what am I missing?
He is right, with the Cost going up on Mega carriers, loads will flood the spot Market! We owner operators need not take cheap loads, anyone taking a cheap load is hurting us all!
I agree with Ronen in that this is the worst time to introduce this legislation. Too many trucks competing with too few loads will result on the loads being spread over more trucks with each truck earning less. Imagine a scenario where you have a load and you are told that you must shut down after 8 hours every day? This will certainly happen except in cases where the load is desperately needed as quickly as legally possible. When I was an OTR driver, I HATED sitting in truck stops when I could/should have been driving. It would really suck being forced to park while under a load all because the company only wanted you working for straight time.
So that is the question; Will the trucking companies be compelled to pay you for time spent sitting, (NOT WAITING FOR LOADING/UNLOADING), but sitting, waiting on dispatch or sitting because you are told to park to avoid OT? Losing the ability to earn while ALSO being stuck out of town will really, REALLY suck.
Just compensate me for the miles I miss out on from sitting constantly throughout a week.
Use your hours correctly and you shouldn't lose the ability to run. Not always but the majority of the time.
@@yingstj100 I have no control over mishaps at the shipper/receiver, and what the company chooses to do. Other than eat a bag of dirt, or make my decision that may or may not have repercussions. Or having to settle for below minimum wage detention pay. I know how to run my clock. Split logging for example means more time working and not getting paid accordingly at times. That’s the problem I have and many others have. Time away from home and no proper compensation. The company is always going to make their business decisions at the expense of your time and labor. In my opinion that first 2 hours free is between that customer and it’s carrier not me as the driver.
We get 40 a hour but have the 2 hour thing but they do pay is without question… don’t have to argue with them
@@ochomigos the definition of what a trucker is has obviously changed.
@@briancallahan5673 that’s another thing, drivers work for some carriers that actually pay their drivers for everything. So they usually don’t care about the rest of the industry’s drivers as long as they got their money. I believe that’s part of the reason drivers will never stand together. Me first mentality society in general.
I was a company driver for two years and now one year as son owner operator running under a mega carrier. This profession is amazing driving all over this country is amazing but the bullshit that we have to take from dispatcher, brokers, dot, truck stops 4 wheelers without us able to retaliate and if we do we get grounded like kids, I hate it, no one verbally can at work assault a fellow employee without consequences and hr involved but we do. The industry fears because one way or another we the drivers are the industry and even in bad times we make money, we are the industry, my mega carrier has more trucks parked in yard than on the roads, because we are the back bone of the industry and they know it.
Good life isn't all about work ...no more live to work. We can work to live
So for the last 40 years the wages have sucked azz in the industry, I spent 22 years long haul all over Canada and the USA even a few times to Mexico. They have always whined about driver shortages every where every month another load of CRAP, the main issue always has been and always will be the money is not enough period. Month in and Month out the driver trades his lifetime of waiting and not getting compensated. You say now is not the time and guess what companies and operations managers have been saying that also since I got into it. Because they dont care about the drivers and if they did they would pay them for the hours they worked period. What other industry assumes a employee has to give away 3 hours a day roughly because thats just the way it has been since 1938??????? How about all those who oppose it in the offices and the factories shippers and receivers start working for 3 hours a day for free to balance out the wage gap between drivers and the rest working in the industry. I guess our families and our paycheques are not as import as the dock workers or the administration workers or the freight brokers. You know the average age of a truck driver in Canada is 58 years old. It is very hard to get people to stay in the industry after 3 months because they get a real taste of being away from family and friends and the money just doesn't cut it. When will the drivers pay match the drivers time in the trucks period. The rest of the world does not have to work 3 hours a day for free. And just because it used to be like that and it helped the industry grow is horse shit, the big companies and the fleet owners grew because they were not and still dont pay a driver a fair average hourly wage. So in the end all drivers will trade time for money and they will not get both they will only get one or the other. Fair pay and equality has never been part of the trucking industry and never will. You think now is not the right time some day very soon the boomers will be all gone(retired early or on time) then what is your plan.....it should be happening now. The changes need to be in place. The driver shortage they have always talked about is really going to happen in about 4 or 5 years from now. Just 1 long haul truck drivers opinion.... :)
Not just the amount of waiting time a driver accumulates for unpaid, but we work 70hrs a week or more alwasy away from family with mere 36hr reset before we're hounded to leave family and home again.
Wow I didn t even know it wasn t yet mandatory for companies to pay overtime. Here in NY is pretty much standard for every hourly paid driver to get paid time and half past 40hr. Ron is out of his mind. He suggests companies will double their workforce and give drivers odd shifts to avoid paying that. Close to impossible to do for various reason. Can t wait to see how that ll work for him!
Wherever you pay a person less they will always move and you end with crappy drivers and more liabilities just because the company wants to save a few bucks
And when companies don't want to pay employees right the employees will leave and when the companies shut their doors the driver can buy their trucks cheap. I'm looking at this from a different prospective then most drivers because I spent 20 yrs as a welder. But this is great for drivers.
I like your take on this
I bet UPS would love for this change to happen. Why? Because it will destroy their competition.
Hasn’t destroyed UPS. Hasn’t destroyed Walmart. Its still exceptionally cheap to buy crap from Walmart and it is still cheaper to ship with UPS than USPS or Fed Ex
Ronnen: Would a possible compromise be overtime for local company driver but no overtly for owner operators/ lease drivers & ORT drivers?
It’s not perfect but we need to get drivers wages back to where drivers make a good living again.
Lol
I’m up for this, because a lot of trucking companies will go out of business so much faster.
O/O will be there to pick up the slack because we can out compete company drivers.
I’m a spotter truck driver an get paid hourly, but no overtime pay. I work usually 45 hours a week. I can’t wait until this bill becomes a law.
I work 40 hrs a week at 34.11 per hour. Yes I have a life
If a trucking company pays good will not need no overtime but seeing how they do not pay good they need it
This is perfect for the drivers
I have a solution .Soon as you check in for pick up or delivery the timer have to start 75$ for the company and from there 30$ per hour for the driver! I promise you no more delays 😅 everything else you have to keep it the same. The make really bad now for games …
As a company otr driver I want to get paid an hourly pay for every hour working not driving. Pre Trip Inspections, fueling, and all other activities required including time loading and unloading
This is really best for everybody. Otr loads will skyrocket and all local gigs will be hourly. I deliver fuel for a national chain of gas stations. Anything after 40 hours I get time and a half and wouldn't have it any other way.
What a fool classic business owner
Yep. A Canadian businessman crying from his ivory tower
Here’s an idea also, you can also do a modified hour and Milage pay. You can get paid hourly while at shipper receiver, securing, tarping and once you hit road go to Milage win win
Alot of companies do this but you have to be waiting for minimum of 2 hours before that hourly wage kicks in. One company I drove for starting paying you after 1 hour, but always the minimum waiting time had to be hit before downtime pay started. So if you waited for 2hrs getting loaded then at 2hr 15min you're done you still gave up 2h14m of free time. CPM plus "all time" waiting at a shipper/receiver should be paid. My ELD let me swap to "on duty @ shipper/receiver", every minute of that should be paid at 30 bucks an hour.
The truck company would be losing money if they had to do this.
I totally agree...hard to slip seat when you're are a two thousand miles from your terminal😂😂😂
I think it would be bad but there definitely needs to be some changes like instead of waiting 2hrs or more for detention we should have get a hourly wage for all non driving time that way we as drivers are compensated for all our working time and it doesn't have to be anything crazy most local hourly drivers make in my area between 23 and 35 something like that wouldn't make as much of a difference and maybe it would convince shippers and receivers to get us put quicker by adding that time into there bills instead of having us sit for multiple hours
Everyone but the trucker with a piece of the pie will always fight harder against it. And if we shutdown they will call us terrorists again.
We tried that when I was working at Schneider local in Dallas. Our pay went from $1200 week to $1500 week. It was great… but it only lasted 1 month then the company had to downsize and cut that pay model back to $1200-$1300 a week
To be fair it’s cheaper to pay time in a half then having to waste your time and money on drug screening etc, back round check to hope the truck driver will stay for more than a year.
...Companies like these already exist though...as in hourly wage that pay overtime.
Ups teamsters Union think I'm kidding read their contract you can pull it up online
I’d like to know where you’d plan on getting all these new drivers from, not to mention replacing the ones who quit when they are forced to take 3 days off
Also ata is full of mega carriers that take advantage of their drivers.
Why should the pay be lowered for truck drivers? Adjust shipping prices. You can’t make OTR’s run with a partner. A lot of drivers will look for another fleet, local or regional job. I am not going to be home on Thanksgiving. That’s why you should realize drivers don’t get fair pay. Some times are more valuable than any compensation offered. Think about this while you enjoy dinner with your family. Yes truckers deserve fair pay.
And yes, Ronen, this NEEDS to happen. For over 40 years, here in America, truckers have been getting short-shafted by big companies, carriers and brokerage houses (Like TQL and CH Robinson). Ever since that worthless pile from Ga signed the Transpo act of 1980, taking the Gov't out of trucking, it's been a race to the bottom.
I may be retired now, but I want to live to see this industry returned back to the golden era of trucking. In the 60's and into the early to mid 70's, truckers were the blue collar Kings. AFTER 1981, that guy making french fries at the McD's was making more than a Company driver...
I'm older than you, so yeah, I've seen more of what's been going wrong with Trucking...
If the law passes it's only going to hurt the people that's about getting rich off of other people's back!
The fix is to establish a minimum wage per mile. Minimum per mile should be .70 a mile and time and a half should kick in at 40 hours making 1.05 a mile. Do it industry wide so it hits everyone and no one is out under cutting anyone because everyone has to pay drivers the same way. Bottom line is that if the BS Chinese crap that people buy has to go up by 5 cents to ensure the drivers are getting paid than that’s just life.
I think that some companies would try to slip seat at 40 hours but it’s really not feasible unless you’re a local driver. Unless they started building terminals all over the place, not to mention there are not enough people who want to drive a truck to make that possible.
Business associations have cried that the sky will fall if they are forced to spend an extra nickel ever since they were told they can’t employ 7 year olds in coal mines.
Anyone that’s a hourly company driver deserves OT after 40hrs. I once drove for a local company that offered unlimited straight time hours. I was very clear I’m a 8 & skate person. My time with my family is valuable. I’ll let the next person have those extra straight time hours.
This inflation and high interest isn’t going anywhere . We need a raise.
If they counted my time gone I’d be into OT before Wednesday morning
Alas I’m not even paid by the hour lol
I support overtime in trucking! Maybe now people can make 60k plus a year working 40 hours a week vs 70 hours a week. 60cents per mile at 100k miles a yr is 60k a year before bonuses but you damn near have to drive a minimum of 50 hours a week to get those miles.
So let me sum this video up as a 20+ year driver / oil field/ otr He saying overtime is not needed & a driver should continue to work overtime for free. Sitting 12hrs at a delivery waiting to unload is ok to not get paid... I dont care once you are in a truck & turn that key away from home your working & while in the truck even in your sleeper you are a Security because although your not driving off-duty/Sleeper you still have to protect Load as well 24/7 in Reefer loads maintain.... So what is you talking about...
Bill should include a 5k monthly check to truck drivers Guaranteed like a SSI check for being in the industry paid out the Tax if we as Truckers are so important... "Problem Solved"
Costs will go up for the consumer and consumption/buying will go down. Consumers can only afford to each so much more costs.
😂😂😂 Good luck to the companies in hiring extra drivers just so they don't have to pay overtime. It's hard to keep drivers in the current conditions.
I hate working ridiculous hours for crappy pay, specially your not hourly pay you get screwed over because of traffic or shipper/customer take too long. It needs to be looked at. I’m planning on leaving this industry because this industry is too toxic. You don’t get respect, people treat you like you’re a second class citizen and work in the awful weather conditions with poor pay. I pretty sure theres a company will give you great pay but the working conditions is not worth it anymore.
This bill can save us from this mess.
If you work local and get paid by the hour and after you work 40 hrs you should get paid time and half everyone else does..
Ronin couldn’t afford his lavish lifestyle and To play with his RUclips channel all day if he had to pay drivers fairly for the 90 hr work week they actually put in.
Drivers should be compensated from the moment they are required to log until the moment they are relieved from duty. For all work, for all wait time, for every single thing that DOT requires be logged as time spent on duty(fuel, loading, unloading, Pretrip, post trip, mid trip, scaling, inspections, etc) and additionally either paid hourly or on a salary basis.
Trust companies to do what is FIRST AND FOREMOST in their own interest. If it’s in your interest as a driver, it’s incidental. If a company says unions will hurt you, ask yourself why the company is saying that. They say we think it’s better that you can negotiate your salary directly with us as if it’s negotiable at all. Can salaries rising beyond what a company can bare hurt you as a driver? Absolutely it can. That company and your job can disappear. But again, that’s not actually why companies give a shit about paying you for all the time worked and logged(and usually not logged) by drivers. It’s solely for a profit motive. And as an unapologetic capitalist I don’t oppose this motive. I’m all for companies making profits. And I am also for employees demanding compensation commensurate with the value provided to a company. In a trucking company, it’s almost all of the value outside of the trailer pool and sometimes the contracts. Contracts can change, equipment can age out of a fleet, but it’s a fucking storage shed without you the driver. Fuck these companies.
And if the ATA says it, you better believe it’s 100% not in your interest. Guaranteed.
The day I see this I’ll finally see some fairness in the labor world 🌎
Any law which is from 1938 should be changed.
70 hours eh! Put down the crack pipe. I drive 70 hrs per week and spend another 20 in detention time or free waiting. I don’t dare do the math on what I actually make. I dont need that bad news.
Yep. You're a fleet owner looking for cheap labor.
Slip seating: it's already being used in every potential application. Even OTR. If you can't get a driver home to switch, you can't get him home to switch.
Same applies to teams.
Local: most of them already get OT or a daily rate that equates to that.The traditional hourly pay structure with OT is one of the main draws to local work.
My intermodal company guys work 50-60 a week and we pay overtime after 40, and they don't slip seat. You rates have to reflect your pay stop taking shit rates. Start charging detention after an hour. Make detention pay mandatory, walmart and Amazon are the worst, sysco awful, menards live unloads suck and lets not talk about Pepsi. These places hold drivers for whole days for no reason and there's no consequences because no one is forcing detention pay.
This literally sounds like Ronnen is complaining because this will make his life difficult. Somehow he thinks in a Labour short economy is somehow going to double truck drivers available lol. This law will actually increase competition for drivers services.
The cost of doing business ends with the consumer not the owner-operator!
This is an opportunity, it's becoming a carrier's Market no longer longer a shippers Market!
The supply chain is already in chaos, working people for a little or nothing is chaotic!
Driving local hazmat tanker, I get paid OT after 40. I work M-F days and I am home each night. I work 60-70 hours a week with 1-3 stops a day.
The answer is a federal daily rate that is highly competitive. You get that rate no matter how many miles you drive. If not doing a 34 you get the daily rate. It cuts out all BS.
This legislation needs to be passed. This will trigger rate increase.
Just curious, how much does an average small fleet owner pull in a year?
There’s a lot of variables to that question but right now is survival mode. I make what I need to make right now just being on my own vs having 2-3 trucks and just trying to stay in the positive.
Personally, about 50k per truck give or take to the business after pay and expenses.
Whatever they have to do to benefit the truckers I support. Not worried about the companies, sorry. It could be argued that the industry has gotten so bad over the years because of the increase in companies and trucks on the road. Thats the real reason the owner operator is struggling.
Slip seating only applies to Day Cabs. So, unless EVERY SINGLE Mega carrier in the US & Canada (Swift, JBH, Schnieder, Werner Etc) suddenly shifts to a pony express style of running their businesses to get around paying OT, you are sadly mistaken.
Just an FYI: I was working at Werner back in 2000 When CL tried this idea. He ordered over 300 new Sterling day cabs with the idea of 300-mile legs, where you drive 300 miles out and a 300-mile turnaround.
Suffice to say, it never came to be, and he canceled the order.
Do something about the waiting time… I don’t see you lobby in Congress to specifically reduce the waiting times… How much waiting time happens at your terminals specifically and what do you do to reduce them or compensate for them?
He’s a Canadian carrier.
Just pay detention and all time not driving like Walmart, probation solved
All of your arguments are baseless, and can be fought easily.. there are always pushbacks to progress and this is one of it
That’s cap/wrong because you will pay more running multiple trucks don’t make sense your equipment and benefits it will cost more to ..
Being an O/O it might actually cause the fright rates to go up. The reason for that thinking is that if a carrier has to pay O/T, then they aren't going to take the loads that are paying what they are. That would cause the reject tender rate to go up, which would raise the shipping rates.
This would cause another issue of a high reject tender rate. Yes, the price would go up, but so would inflation. We can see this of what happened since covid. So, in the long run, it would just make things worse than what it is already.
Companies are going out of business and they want to pay overtime pay? This is going to be a mess.
Companies that are only able to operate by under paying drivers Need to go out of business.
These are the companies that take the cheap fright to try to eliminate smaller carriers and they can do that by cutting somewhere. It’s never cutting pay the office staff or CEO’s, or stop buying new trucks every year. It’s by Screwing over the drivers.
These companies hate you, why would work for them