Great test 👍Im in the states waiting to get the Algoforce E1500. Like you said its not the 6000 and it shouldn't be compared to it. For the money someone has finally made a good introductory PI. Why has Minelab avoided this market for so long? I was a Minelab dealer back around 2009.
Much appreciated with your video. We don’t live anywhere near a gold region but a couple of times a year do camp in those areas. We’ve been spoilt by going out with someone who owns a 7000. So for us it’s about justifying the cost verses how often we’ll use it. And from what I’ve seen on your videos I think this machine will fit the bill nicely.
Since I posted this video, the machine has had a few software updates. It’s even better now. The company is developing updates regularly. You update the machine on your own computer, it only takes a minute. It’s a good machine that’s getting better all the time.
Some gold spec with the algo good on depth this with 12"nugget finder and small gold with the saidie ,and it go deep ,have to use the pinpointer on the deep hole,love the light weight machine ,👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I have only had the machine for a week or so. I read a lot of claims both good and bad from people who didn’t own one. I had no misconceptions, just test it to find out. I think overall it performs much better than its price point. It has a place as an entry level gold finder. It will find gold for sure.
It does show that there is no free lunch. It is good value for money for what you get. It also shows, it you want the best available today, it will cost you up front. In the right areas this Algo will have no problems finding gold. Maybe not all the gold.
Cheers for the video and your time to show the Algo. Not too bad but for me it falls short on depth but for shallow gold on small nuggys its pretty good for the $$. Nokta detection is bringing out their first PI so really keen to see how that goes. Cheers.
For a first PI detector, I think it’s great. I have a 6000 and a 7000. I reckon 90% of the gold I get with these machines the Algo would get. So if you have a tight budget and you want a fun machine that can double as a coin and relic machine. It’s hard to go past. If you have plenty of money then a 6000 is the go.
I accurately measured the holes. They do look deeper before you measure them. Also when you estimate a hole depth after you have dug a nugget, you might have chopped a bit more out after the nugget is out. I am happy with the depth it got the smaller nuggets. Overall I am happy with the machine. I know it’s going to be a good gold finder.
@@goldfools5445 I’m getting the 12x8 evo this week and will be good to see what I can get out of that. So far it’s a damn good machine for the money that’s for sure
Thanks. I am still happy with my purchase, I am having a bit of fun with it. I think the algoforce definitely has a place. It’s better than a gold monster or the other VLF machines. I don’t think it’s far away from the SDC I terms of gold hunting. The SDC has other attributes no other detector can match, so in that case it’s worth its money. If all you are doing is dry land prospecting, the algoforce might be a better choice at the price point.
Hi Mate Thanks So much for sharing your experience with us !!. It helps us all see what it can do .. I’d Absolutely Love a comparison video of the SDC verse the Argo 🙏🙏. As I’m trying to decide between selling the Sdc or the 4500 .. Cheers
They have just released another update. I installed this morning and it’s a definite improvement. It’s a fun machine to use. I would be cautious about about expecting it to out perform the SDC. It will be better than the 4500 on small stuff but it’s not great on depth with bigger nuggets. That said, 90% of the gold I find would be in the range of the Algo. If you are after a big performance machine though, you can’t go past a 6000 or a 7000. Irrespective of cost.
Thanks, Mark, for the in-depth video. I'm just a newcomer to this hobby and looking to buy a new detector. So, in short, do you recommend the E1500 for the price?
Definitely, the Sadie coil may be the best choice in the long run. Since this video Algo have made some software updates and they are an improvement in user performance. For the price it’s a very good gold detector and it also does a good job as a coin detector as well.
Great video! Would you recommend the Algorithm for someone with experience with VLF machines wanting to move over to a PI machine as a hobby in mineralised ground? Or would it be better buying second hand 5000 or paying the extra and getting a 6000?
That’s a tricky one. Myself I would think it’s a perfect middle step from VLF to PI. It would be easily mastered for someone with VLF experience. It’s a fun machine with real ability to find gold in highly mineralised ground. You can experiment with different coils although the NF saddle is a good fit. It works best where you need it to work. Small gold at some depth. To a point. It has its limits but I think it’s in the right zone. A 5000 is going to struggle with the small gold but will have a depth advantage on larger stuff. Let’s get real here. Most ground has probably been worked with a 5000 so that bigger stuff is mostly gone. If the Algo is within your budget, that’s the way I would go. I will say this again though, the 6000 is a step above the algo but at a price.
So far, I've found the 10" X-coil the best for it, sadly it's not sold anymore, other than that I'd stick with the smaller spiral coils like the 14x9" EVO. The Sadie is OK, but the spirals really make it look pointless, more depth, similar sensitivity, only reason to use it is if you need the smaller size. I'm intrigued by the Coiltek 9" Elite, might be a good option.
I have a 12x8 Evo coil on the way. I will see how that compares to the 14x9 elite. A small coil on this machine makes a lot of sense to me. I think the Sadie might be too small for general detecting, for me anyway. As I said in a comment on fb. If the market is big enough, this might be an opportunity for Xcoil to develop a specific coil for it. It seems to have some good built in tech, with the bonus of software updates.
@@michaelandrews4783Well obviously I'm using it in New Zealand, plenty are using it in Australia. The 10" X-Coil is a moot point seeing you can't buy one, I'm just lucky enough to have one.
Algoforce has a website you can google. The coils are standard GPX5000, these are available from most detector shops or eBay. algoforce.com.au/products/algoforce-e1500-standard
One thing I will say if the 1500 had a audio boost upgrade along with an EVO 12x8 or 14x9 I think it would be deadly. I have a 7 and have been holding back on a 6 for the reason it is noisy all hell. I think if someone has a 7 and wants something for smaller bits then the 1500 can't be overlooked. I would love to try a SP01 along with the 1500. 😘
I have fitted an SP01 and have tried a few head phones and with the latest software update it seems really sharp. We are heading up to our lease tomorrow, so in the next week or so I will see how it goes. I am taking a new 9” round CT with me, I haven’t tried it yet. This machine has a very good interface with lots of options for sensitivity, sounds, gold mode’s etc. it’s actually a fun machine to play with. I don’t think it’s up to the level of a 6000 yet, but it’s gets better with every update. Thanks for the comment. 👍
@@goldfools5445 I guess end of the day if it picks up smaller stuff that the 7 miss's then its game on. I don't know that it has to up to the level of the 6 but as a second machine that should pay for itself very quickly its an option for many. A follow up video would be great.
@robmadaffari6270 yes mate. I didn’t really need this machine, I bought it to try it out. The 14x9 CT elite has been the best. I bought a second hand 12x8 evo and it seems erratic. Maybe I bought a dud. I will try to get hold of another one to verify whether it’s the coil issue or the machine doesn’t like such a sensitive coil. Even my dry run in the backyard with the 9” CT elite round seems a bit flakey whereas the 14x9 is rock solid. I put it down to EMI. Anyway I will do up a follow up video “ if I can find some gold” 😉
The weight is a bir lighter with the 14 x 9 coil on, coiltek coil is heavier than Minelab coil. It’s a featherweight with the Sadie coil on. The machine itself is extremely lightweight.
I have a 12 x 8 evo on the way. That’s all I had at the time. The coiltek is flat wound. Yes you are right on the Sadie. Only good if you really need that small size on shallow stuff.
They have sent owners a new update. Which ads mineralisation as a seperate setting. So you can change ground type and gold mode independently. Quite advanced for a budget machine.
Basically it’s a no.. this detector is not designed for deep targets. It’s designed for small targets shallow. Mostly gold is found fairly shallow but in highly mineralised ground, which is difficult to penetrate with anything other than a PI detector.
Great test 👍Im in the states waiting to get the Algoforce E1500. Like you said its not the 6000 and it shouldn't be compared to it. For the money someone has finally made a good introductory PI.
Why has Minelab avoided this market for so long?
I was a Minelab dealer back around 2009.
Love the way the algo ground balances.
Yes, so do I. There are some clever technologies built into this machine.
Good in depth look at the performance of the 1500. Thanks for taking the time.
Your welcome. It was a learning exercise for us as well. I still think the algoforce has a real place, you could do a lot worse.
Much appreciated with your video. We don’t live anywhere near a gold region but a couple of times a year do camp in those areas. We’ve been spoilt by going out with someone who owns a 7000. So for us it’s about justifying the cost verses how often we’ll use it. And from what I’ve seen on your videos I think this machine will fit the bill nicely.
Since I posted this video, the machine has had a few software updates.
It’s even better now.
The company is developing updates regularly. You update the machine on your own computer, it only takes a minute.
It’s a good machine that’s getting better all the time.
Thanks Mark, appreciate the effort in this depth test. Will try and get out and do some tests of my own with some other GPX coils.
Algo have made some upgrades since I did these tests. I would like to see if they make a real difference. The machine is definitely smoother now.
Some gold spec with the algo good on depth this with 12"nugget finder and small gold with the saidie ,and it go deep ,have to use the pinpointer on the deep hole,love the light weight machine ,👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@henniebouwmans7879 this was a first release machine.
Has had a few software updates since,.
It might be different if I tried it now.
Thank you for the great testing. Very good information on the E1500 performance.
I have only had the machine for a week or so. I read a lot of claims both good and bad from people who didn’t own one. I had no misconceptions, just test it to find out. I think overall it performs much better than its price point. It has a place as an entry level gold finder. It will find gold for sure.
At last a sensible comparison video.. Seems you get what you pay for like with most things. Thanks
It does show that there is no free lunch.
It is good value for money for what you get. It also shows, it you want the best available today, it will cost you up front.
In the right areas this Algo will have no problems finding gold. Maybe not all the gold.
Cheers for the video and your time to show the Algo. Not too bad but for me it falls short on depth but for shallow gold on small nuggys its pretty good for the $$.
Nokta detection is bringing out their first PI so really keen to see how that goes.
Cheers.
For a first PI detector, I think it’s great.
I have a 6000 and a 7000. I reckon 90% of the gold I get with these machines the Algo would get. So if you have a tight budget and you want a fun machine that can double as a coin and relic machine. It’s hard to go past. If you have plenty of money then a 6000 is the go.
A great demo, thank you and Gold Luck.
Thanks you👍
Nice work 👍 I think I am getting a bit more depth over here in Victoria but our ground is nowhere near as mineralised as w.a
I accurately measured the holes. They do look deeper before you measure them.
Also when you estimate a hole depth after you have dug a nugget, you might have chopped a bit more out after the nugget is out. I am happy with the depth it got the smaller nuggets. Overall I am happy with the machine. I know it’s going to be a good gold finder.
@@goldfools5445 I’m getting the 12x8 evo this week and will be good to see what I can get out of that. So far it’s a damn good machine for the money that’s for sure
@@Goldandtravel I definitely agree with that. I also am getting a 12 x 8 NF. The perfect size coil for the Algo I reckon.
@@goldfools5445 …or go for the >round< NF 12” Evolution coil for the AF 1500 (AlgoForce E1500).
Yes I think that would work. You wouldn’t want to go much bigger as the shafts isn’t very rigid.
Smashing review. Great job
That was when I first got it. There has been a few software updates since.
It has improved user functionality.
Great starter gold machine.
Great video, excellent comparison
Thanks. I am still happy with my purchase, I am having a bit of fun with it.
I think the algoforce definitely has a place. It’s better than a gold monster or the other VLF machines. I don’t think it’s far away from the SDC I terms of gold hunting. The SDC has other attributes no other detector can match, so in that case it’s worth its money. If all you are doing is dry land prospecting, the algoforce might be a better choice at the price point.
Hi Mate
Thanks So much for sharing your experience with us !!.
It helps us all see what it can do ..
I’d Absolutely Love a comparison video of the SDC verse the Argo 🙏🙏.
As I’m trying to decide between selling the Sdc or the 4500 ..
Cheers
They have just released another update.
I installed this morning and it’s a definite improvement. It’s a fun machine to use.
I would be cautious about about expecting it to out perform the SDC.
It will be better than the 4500 on small stuff but it’s not great on depth with bigger nuggets. That said, 90% of the gold I find would be in the range of the Algo. If you are after a big performance machine though, you can’t go past a 6000 or a 7000. Irrespective of cost.
be interesting to see if SDC gets those.
I have owned an SDC in the past.
I would say the performance is comparable.
Thanks, Mark, for the in-depth video. I'm just a newcomer to this hobby and looking to buy a new detector. So, in short, do you recommend the E1500 for the price?
Definitely, the Sadie coil may be the best choice in the long run.
Since this video Algo have made some software updates and they are an improvement in user performance.
For the price it’s a very good gold detector and it also does a good job as a coin detector as well.
Great video! Would you recommend the Algorithm for someone with experience with VLF machines wanting to move over to a PI machine as a hobby in mineralised ground? Or would it be better buying second hand 5000 or paying the extra and getting a 6000?
That’s a tricky one. Myself I would think it’s a perfect middle step from VLF to PI.
It would be easily mastered for someone with VLF experience. It’s a fun machine with real ability to find gold in highly mineralised ground. You can experiment with different coils although the NF saddle is a good fit.
It works best where you need it to work. Small gold at some depth. To a point. It has its limits but I think it’s in the right zone. A 5000 is going to struggle with the small gold but will have a depth advantage on larger stuff. Let’s get real here. Most ground has probably been worked with a 5000 so that bigger stuff is mostly gone. If the Algo is within your budget, that’s the way I would go.
I will say this again though, the 6000 is a step above the algo but at a price.
@goldfools5445 great advice cheers!
So far, I've found the 10" X-coil the best for it, sadly it's not sold anymore, other than that I'd stick with the smaller spiral coils like the 14x9" EVO. The Sadie is OK, but the spirals really make it look pointless, more depth, similar sensitivity, only reason to use it is if you need the smaller size. I'm intrigued by the Coiltek 9" Elite, might be a good option.
I have a 12x8 Evo coil on the way. I will see how that compares to the 14x9 elite.
A small coil on this machine makes a lot of sense to me. I think the Sadie might be too small for general detecting, for me anyway. As I said in a comment on fb.
If the market is big enough, this might be an opportunity for Xcoil to develop a specific coil for it. It seems to have some good built in tech, with the bonus of software updates.
Yes but what about in highly minerlized soil (like in the WA goldfields) does this still apply? I beleive your testing is largly done in NewZealand?
@@michaelandrews4783Well obviously I'm using it in New Zealand, plenty are using it in Australia. The 10" X-Coil is a moot point seeing you can't buy one, I'm just lucky enough to have one.
Well done great video
Thanks 👍
Could you please send the website you bought the coil and detector, loved the video. Thanks.
Algoforce has a website you can google.
The coils are standard GPX5000, these are available from most detector shops or eBay. algoforce.com.au/products/algoforce-e1500-standard
One thing I will say if the 1500 had a audio boost upgrade along with an EVO 12x8 or 14x9 I think it would be deadly. I have a 7 and have been holding back on a 6 for the reason it is noisy all hell. I think if someone has a 7 and wants something for smaller bits then the 1500 can't be overlooked. I would love to try a SP01 along with the 1500. 😘
I have fitted an SP01 and have tried a few head phones and with the latest software update it seems really sharp.
We are heading up to our lease tomorrow, so in the next week or so I will see how it goes. I am taking a new 9” round CT with me, I haven’t tried it yet. This machine has a very good interface with lots of options for sensitivity, sounds, gold mode’s etc. it’s actually a fun machine to play with. I don’t think it’s up to the level of a 6000 yet, but it’s gets better with every update.
Thanks for the comment. 👍
@@goldfools5445 I guess end of the day if it picks up smaller stuff that the 7 miss's then its game on. I don't know that it has to up to the level of the 6 but as a second machine that should pay for itself very quickly its an option for many. A follow up video would be great.
@robmadaffari6270 yes mate. I didn’t really need this machine, I bought it to try it out. The 14x9 CT elite has been the best. I bought a second hand 12x8 evo and it seems erratic. Maybe I bought a dud. I will try to get hold of another one to verify whether it’s the coil issue or the machine doesn’t like such a sensitive coil.
Even my dry run in the backyard with the 9” CT elite round seems a bit flakey whereas the 14x9 is rock solid.
I put it down to EMI. Anyway I will do up a follow up video “ if I can find some gold” 😉
Great video as always how is the weight comparison is the algo lighter than the 6 cheers
The weight is a bir lighter with the 14 x 9 coil on, coiltek coil is heavier than Minelab coil. It’s a featherweight with the Sadie coil on. The machine itself is extremely lightweight.
Use any coil other than the Sadie!! It’s an old bundle would advantage. Make sure ya use flat wound EVOLUTION coils
I have a 12 x 8 evo on the way. That’s all I had at the time.
The coiltek is flat wound. Yes you are right on the Sadie. Only good if you really need that small size on shallow stuff.
Someone said the scale they have for fine gold etc should be called a mineralisation scale. So large gold being salt and fine gold being dirt.
They have sent owners a new update.
Which ads mineralisation as a seperate setting. So you can change ground type and gold mode independently. Quite advanced for a budget machine.
The whole point of this...should have been comparing it to a gpx 4500 or later
This video was not a comparison to anything. Not even the 6000. It was about the expectations of the Algo in mineralised ground.
I personally would.like to see depth tests using the larger gpx coils will or can it detect larger nuggets at serious depths
Basically it’s a no.. this detector is not designed for deep targets. It’s designed for small targets shallow. Mostly gold is found fairly shallow but in highly mineralised ground, which is difficult to penetrate with anything other than a PI detector.
Nope, the garrett ATX BLOWS THAT THING AWAY
It should do, it’s three times the price.
@@goldfools5445 and three times the weight