I have a 59 year old Ariens 10M4 (ST424) that always starts by the 2nd pull and is built like a Sherman tank. I'll take it over the flimsy things in this video any day.
I have 3 old ST1032. Stronger impellers compared to the last 15 years. I have 2"gravel. light impellers bend and rub too easily. I have never bend an old style. Canada
I didn't care for this video because the Ariens was not in track mode but the others were. I am most interested in the Ariens brand and wanted to see how it stacked up to the other two.
The Honda was their 32" wide model, and the other 2 were 28" wide models. So right off the bat the Honda has a definite advantage in the amount of snow it can throw at any given time.
@@bwillan The purpose of this video was to showcase throwing distance. The width of the bucket is not an advantage. The Toro and the Ariens have a 420cc engine and the Honda has a 390cc. The Honda won this particular test, and it wasn't close. Even though on paper Toro says up to 65 ft. for the 1428, Ariens says 60 ft. for the pro 28 hydro and Honda says 56 ft. for the HSS1332. Either Toro and Ariens are lying, or Honda vastly underrates throwing distance! Also, toro rates their 32" version(TRX HD 1432) as having 60 ft. throwing distance which utilizes the same engine. 5 ft. less than their 28" model, again going to prove the the extra bucket width is not an advantage for a throwing distance comparison. And is actually a disadvantage is toro's case. While Ariens rates their big dog 32" verison(Kraken) as having the same 60ft. throwing distance as this 28" version, both using the same 420cc engine. Honda rates their 28" version as having 52 ft., pretty damn close to their 32" rating which is damn impressive considering their 28" utilizes a much smaller 270cc engine.
@@steve8803 The problem I see is the wheel mode caused it to climb up and tile back by 15~20 degrees. This caused the snow to be launched at a more vertical angle and ruining the throw distance.
@daryldaryl887 Handwarmers?? Hey bud up here in the north we all have hand warmers, ear warmers, foot warmers, leg warmers, chest warmers. We call them WINTER CLOTHES! Give them a try sometime.
I've been trying to find a Honda HSS928 for a while now to compare to the Ariens RapidTrak Pro 28 and the Toro PowerTRX 28. Unfortunately, it appears Honda is not making any at this time and I have not been able to find one within 150 miles of me. I like the overhead view you used in this video. A couple suggestions to make this a more accurate test. 1. Mark out a 100 feet (30 meters) 2. Be sure you are familiar with each model before you use it so you have an accurate comparison. For, example put the RapidTrak in "track mode," the PowerTRX in "float" and the Honda will need to be in "lock" so the front end stays down. The Ariens and Toro are designed to work the best in that deep snow in those positions. In these modes, they should all clear down to the surface/pavement and not leave any snow in the area they are clearing. 3.. Use each one down and back on the course and time how long it takes to go the 100 feet. Push the capacity of the snowblowers as hard as you can. My guess is you will see the Ariens will have the most capacity and clear the snow the fastest. The Toro will throw the snow the farthest but won't be quite as fast as the Ariens for capacity. The Honda will also throw the snow as far as the Toro but it will be the slowest for capacity.
Exactly Paul and there is a learning curve with the RapidTrak with regards to which of the 3 modes: (wheel, track, dig) And, depth of snow, type of snow, pace of operator. Throwing distance will vary with the RapidTrak depending on conditions listed.
Acme didn't get any hondas in this year. I heard from some contacts the honda plant in Georgia is all messed up. Not sure if thats were the snowblowers are made. I am looking at getting a Husqvarna they seem to be the closest to a honda.
@@ABC-nv8ly I do the honda but you can't get one. Maybe next year. We have a good husqvarna dealer in town. I was looking at Ariens but i don't like how they build their track.
What you say is true until the snow gets real deep. Having the ability to throw snow high and far, in one pass, makes a world of difference when your driveway looks like a 10' snow wall on either side and your current blower can't throw it that high to get rid of it. At that point you're moving it two or three times instead of moving it once.
@@jameskoskinen6763 I live in Buffalo NY (review the snow storm history) and never ran into that issue and still deem it more important on the volume of snow the machine is capable of moving.
Both volume and distance are important. You need to be able to stack the snow in strategic locations for most residential applications. For me the Honda throws over 50 feet and that is what I need to be able to get it to the edges of my driveway.
0:45 I would have liked to have seen the Ariens done in tire mode 1st, like it was done in this video, & then track mode thereafter. The Ariens was the only one to have its "Tires spin" before it started to force itself to ramp up. If the options there while going against 2 tracked machines? Then it would make sense to test it against them in track mode &/or both options to even compare against itself. I'm not to say this video was a setup again Ariens or anything, but what if being in track mode it bogged it down worse compared to the others? Reducing its best throwing option track or tire? Good video, just wish to have seen that.
Congratulations that a nice purchase, I have the Alpine 28' (It was delivered at the end of last years season so I have not used it yet) @@ScottWhalen81
There is a good reason that every ski resort from Tahoe to Colorado to Utah use Honda snowblowers exclusively. They are kept out in the weather, at high altitudes and MASSIVE amounts of snow and will never let you down.
Next question: Which snowblower throws snow the LEAST distance? Of the many snowblowers I’ve owned, the most pathetic by far has been my Cub Cadet 3X30HD. In perfect snow conditions, it works okay (not considering its several other drawbacks), but in most snow conditions its performance is anemic, such as sometimes throwing snow 8 feet or less and often struggling to reach the edge of my 11-foot driveway.
The 3-phase snow blower promises power but falls flat where it counts. They're notoriously unreliable, prone to breakdowns just when you need them most. And when it comes to throwing snow, don’t expect miracles-it barely gets the job done. Save yourself the hassle and look for a machine that can truly handle winter’s worst!
You did not have the Ariens RapidTrak in track mode and could have also used dig mode By leaving it in wheel mode, it tried to climb up the snow Do Over to be accurate
Car Question. Kind of a useless video. Wether a machine throws snow 50 or 60 ft is pretty irrelevant in my experience. But you are wrong about the traction mode affecting the throwing distance. Smooth steady forward progress definitely affects the throwing distance.
@@ziks3000 track mode helps get more snow in the bucket, as opposed to climbing up on the snow. More snow into the second stage (14”dia.) produces more throw distance as the engine get the proper load on it and the second stage has enough snow to throw. The RapidTrak needs 8+ inches of snow to be effective, otherwise, I use my smaller Craftsman. So, unless you have used a RapidTrak, it would seem logical that I’m wrong, but I have experienced this with my machine. You are right about throwing distance, as that feature is more of bragging rights.
I bought my 2 stage Toro in 2016. The first time I used it, gas started leaking out of it. I got that fixed and it's been great ever since. I payed $800 for it.
I bought my Ariens brand new 14 years ago and it runs flawlessly every year. I can tune it up and change the oil myself no problem. Parts are cheap/easy to find. Only part I’ve ever had to replace was the rubber primer because the rubber started to crack. I would also not recommend the corded power-start…. the machines don’t need it. 1-2 pulls and it’s running! Blows the snow plenty far.
My Ariens is 59 years old and didn't even come with a primer bulb so there's none to need replacing :) It also fires up by the 2nd pull every time. Mine was made in 1965 and is a model 10M4 (ST424).
My Ariens is almost impossible to start. My lawn mower with a Honda engine starts half way through the first pull EVERY time. I never use gas stabilizer in the lawn mower. Take it out of the shed in the Spring and it starts half way through the first pull......EVERY season. The Ariens is VERY difficult to start. HOW could they let it out of the factory in such a condition? Top dollar for a dud.
Moi aussi très satisfait de ma Ariens.... On mentionne toujours la distance projetée de la Honda... mais jamais de la quantitée... Ma Ariens dégage 79 tonnes à l'heure tandis que la Honda seulement 56... pour la même grosseur de souffleuse... Ariens for the win Ah... et elle est plus abordable!
Pour avoir essayer les deux, les Ariens mange beaucoup plus la neige que les Honda peuvent le faire (dans les même grosseurs de souffleuse à neige). Cela dit, pour le prix, Ariens est loins devant Honda!
All snow blower where in normal position. that wont change at all the throwing distance. And note that it's nearly impossible to recreate the exacte same snow and condition for all test. we need a test lab for that.
@@CarQuestion Yes I fully understand about the snow conditions and throwing distance but that has nothing to do with what my question was. The RapidTrak is unique where you can have wheel or track mode. That is the advantage of the setup. There is no normal mode. Either way cool video and those are probably the three best machines you can buy. The Honda will throw the furthest, the Ariens will move the most snow the quickest, and the Toro is somewhere in the middle.👍
@@smallblock412 Yes, you are right about the track setup. But we did not do a full review as we dit on the french channel since my co-host was french. But if you have an area where you need an agile machine, this setup works fine. Even more on a flat surface when more traction is required. But in the deep stuff, the Honda has better traction! Cool system to go around a spa or in tight spaces, but not the best traction.
@@CarQuestion Understanding a products functions are necessary if you want to make a real review. Hope you figured it out during the full review. I will watch it now.
Toro seems to throw the furthest. Love Toro they're always trying to innovate, make things better, their quick stick is untouchable.. no shear pins, anti clogging system is amazing.. I like Ariens too But they stick with old stuff too much need to innovate.. I guess that's cool if you like that.. Also did anyone know Toro is the first company to put out a stand behind two stage snowblower.. 1952.... Ariens was 1952 but not a stand behind machine. There's was an attachment to a vehicle of some kind for commercial use big property.. So Toro Was first at innovating even back then. they knew they could make tons of money selling homeowners snow blowers.. And they still do that today in my opinion.. They have a real good nack for knowing what matters and what doesn't.. Even the little things.. So that saves them money and the consumer money.. Pretty ingenious..
It's just a shame that will all that innovation you lose out on reliability. Even Ariens pails in terms of reliability when it comes to how long they last. I don't know what Honda does but thier stuff just seems to last. Don't change the oil, old gas etc etc, come time to use it, it just works.
@@WilliamStewart1 I don't know where you're getting your information from but current Toro in Ariens snow blowers If you take care of them. Will last 20 and 30 years. I know friends that have some of these Toro and Aryan snow blowers they've had for a 13 and 15 years having no problems at all other than some rust they have to fix. Maybe occasional cable. But if you defrost your snowblower, use silicone spray, WD-40 after every snow throw, Grease your fittings every year, put some oil or grease on the transmission shaft, You know the disc that goes back and forth not the disc itself or the rubber piece what the rubber piece slides on. And probably the best thing to protect your snow blower that people overlook ceramic nano coating just like they have on cars. You take care of your engine, drain the oil change the oil, put the additive in your gas tank IT SHOULD LAST YOU AT LEAST 20 YEARS EVEN MORE!! Snowblower technology in terms of the main parts, gears, bearings, transmission, discs and stuff like that really haven't changed.. And what's great about because that's type of technology have not changed those parts are always available even 30-year-old Toro and Ariens has all these parts still!! So I don't get your point. How many people do you know have engines seize or something really bad happened to their Toro or Ariens snow blowers. Think about a snowblower for a second!! It's like a car!! It really is but easier to take care of!! What's great though is you can do the maintenance yourself much easier than a car in a lot of cases. Or make a big difference have a service center service it every year. The paint in the metal on the snow blowers whether it's Ariens or Toro is fantastic.. again look at cars. The outer coating on these cars and the paint It's pretty much the same thing that's on the snow blowers. And they're in the elements in every season unlike a snowblower.. cuz we'll start to rust after 10 years.. and to rust through if you take care of it might last you 20... But rust is easily fixable. This is why Toro actually started using plastic shoots and they guaranteed a lifetime of performance.. they don't rust. But people started to complain so they went back to metal.. Even though they're probably feel like the plastic would last longer. So again I don't know where you're coming from and where you get your information from.. Your liability of these snow blowers is still amazing no matter if you have an old one or a new one. There's differences in thickness of metal between the two Ariens being a little bit more thicker but that doesn't mean it's going to last longer.. You take care of your product you'll be just fine..
@@WilliamStewart1 And is even an old timer who fixes snow blowers his name is Paul I forget his last name begins with an s. He's been taking care of snow blowers for years. If you want to spend a little more on the better snow blowers. Meaning the proline commercial line costing about $2,000 He claims they will last you a lifetime. That would be Arians or Toro.. ;)
@@WilliamStewart1 In terms of Honda it makes perfect sense anyways just like a car. It's more important That you have enough oil then changing your oil. You get more mileage out of your car if you change your oil but it's not a huge difference that people think. And that's the case for Ariens or Toro.. I think they're all pretty good for reliability I don't really think one is really different than the other.. I just think that Toro seems to understand what matters and what doesn't.. In other words they know that a bigger screws, thicker metal does not necessarily mean it's going to last longer. So that's why a lot of Toro products are a little bit cheaper than the equivalent of an Ariens.. as I've already stated and explained about the real thin metal on cars How long they last. So I don't know your experiences but I know my experiences and tons of people I know actually would pick an Aries and a Toro over a Honda 6 days a week and twice on Sunday. They are known to be the most long-lasting best snow blowers and throwers out there. And that's coming from experts, old-timers, repair shops etc.... I think a lot of the time people just buy some new snow blowers because the other ones are just old. They probably work just fine with a little care and maintenance. So you can't count that. They're easily fixed.. engines, carburetors, and build quality are all the same.. It's slightly different Then car engines. Not as critical.. Not as many parts blah blah blah.. Even the Chinese engines have caught up and they copy everyone else and there reliable also..
@@WilliamStewart1 For instance I just copy and paste this from Google.. I did not change the words. It's just what I thought. And have experienced and listen to everybody. -------- Cheaper single stage snowblowers have an average lifespan of around 10 years however a high quality two or three stage snowblower, when properly maintained, cleaned, and stored, can last 15 to 25 years. -------- Exactly 15 to 25 years!! That's a long time just like a car just like I said!! Maintain them you'll probably get 20 to 25 years!! I'm just glad I picked the new battery powered Toro snowblower E26 and they have the E24!! I'm an electronics guru. Been fixing electronics for 30 years pretty much everything, including phones and computers I'm an engineer.. and a lot more. These electronic motors last a long time. Did you ever hear of the power curve 1800 by Toro ( the single stage corded 25 lb plastic snowblower 🤣 ) I'VE HAD MINE FOR 13 YEARS AND IT STILL WORKS!! I've done absolutely nothing to it other than replace a belt And a pulley assembly. Basically a plastic wheel after 10 years. Still runs The electric motor is rusty. RUNS AS GOOD AS THE DAY I GOT IT. AND THAT IS A BRUSHED MOTOR!! The battery powered PowerMax E24 and E26 is a brushless motor much more powerful much higher quality. You take care of it It should last a long time. Just like all the other lines from Ariens and Toro..
@@mattdavis9521 That Cadillac clogs badly in heavy wet snow! And the incredibly slow electric chute rotation makes clogging 10 time worse because you have to stop forward motion and wait for the chute, causing wet snow clogs in the chute. Honda is discontinuing their snowblower division after next year.
@@willstark 😆 true story, and I’m a die hard Honda guy. The toro snowblower is the only non Honda thing in my garage. Otherwise it’s Honda mower,generators,power washer, car, dirt bike.
Imo there is no comparison to the Ariens RapidTrak on track snowblowers. The Honda did seem to blow snow the farthest but that doesn't mean it's the most volume.
The Honda engine is the best of the bunch though. Will last forever with minor maintenance. I have an Ariens and it's great but my Honda starts easier and is very easy to maintain. Have a power washer from Sears with a Honda engine that runs on the first or second pull after 20+ years. Something to be said for that.
Toro says the HD 1428 and 1432 will throw snow 60 plus feet. My Toro HD 1232 throws heavy wet snow 50 plus feet and powder way beyond that. Even in the heavy wet snow the Toro anti clog system never clogs. Last winter here in southeastern MI we got hit with 8 inches of wet slop that really tested my Toro's ability to not clog. Was out blowing that mess for over an hour and not time did the machine even hit of clogging. I don't know about Honda or Ariens ability because I don't own or ever used one in extremely heavy wet snow conditions. Toro's anti clog system works as advertised. If had to own a tracked snow blower, I would opt for the Honda due to its hydrostatic geared drive system. One reason they cost so much. As far are blowing snow, I think all three machines perform very well. The Ariens was not in track mode, so its results were not fair.
orry, but the Toro with tracks is just a ticking time bomb of problems that Toro hasn't even solved yet! If you have wheels, you'll be fine for now, except for vibrations under heavy load.
@@CarQuestion Mine is the wheeled version of Toro's Power Max HD machines. I've had my machine for several years now and there is no vibration under heavy loads. The machine works flawlessly. The only thing I didn't like was first gear was not slow enough and that was elevated with a simple adjustment of the shift rod. Now is goes very slow in first gear when needed. And the quick stick shoot control works great, once you get the hang of using it. I looked at Ariens and Honda, ruled out Honda due to the costs. Ariens makes a great snow blower, but I didn't want a machine with auto steer, so I opted to go with Toro, which my local dealer sells, along with Honda and Cub Cadet. Honda, Ariens and Toro are all good machines. If I had to have a machine with tracks, I would go with the Honda. From all the research I did before making my purchase, I found many complain of the Honda clogging in very heavy wet snow. Love the Honda drive system, it is no doubt the best in the industry as far as snow blowers go.
Honda is the Bridgeman’s Ice Cream Parlor Shooter Brooklyn Center Choice- I don’t know-the electro-hydraulic joystick auger Controller on the Toro seems to be a little more up my alley.
Were the reverse gears not working in these three machines? Why are you physically jerking them backwards? And you hade the Ariens in wheel mode. Weak comparison.
I know the middle one is honda, but what's the first one tested ?. They don't tell us wich is wich. I want something that's not going to bog down in heavy wet snow & able to toss it far without having to spend a fortune.
@@CarQuestion i was looking at honda or ariens but there price is nut's, a used Honda hs80 is sold for almost the price of new same for ariens. This is nuts.
compare all you want on videos i been blowing snow in Mn for 45 yrs Have has snappers, deeres, husqvarnas, torros wont but nothing now but ariens platinums or deluexs I now own 2 deluxe 28 and 1 platimnum 28 trac
My Ariens snow thrower has been hard to start literally from day one. I am extremely disappointed. You pay top dollar for an Ariens and then the thing is just taking up space in the shed. My lawnmower with a Honda engine starts half way through the first pull of the season for EIGHT years now. Hondas are extremely reliable. Ariens?......not so much. With the effort it takes to get the thing started I could have SHOVELED the driveway. It's like Al Bundy's car.....he pushes it back and forth to work.
@@JeffJohnson-1982 Thanks for the advice. I ended up cleaning and gapped the spark plug. Draining the carburetor, and I also added Stabil, fuel stabilizer, and then sprayed starting fluid during the start attempt. It fired right up with the starting fluid. It was much easier than it sounded the way I wrote it. From now on I'll use the starting fluid to get it to light off. But the spark plug was a little dirty and the gap was too wide. I'm sure that didn't help.
@rael5469 Hi there Your welcome! Seafoam works everytime! Remember to drain and run your machine out of fuel in the spring. Also drain your oil every spring! Good luck! Happy New Year!
My neighbour has a two stage blower, I have a single stage Toro. In wet snow he stops every few minutes to clear the shut my Toro has never plugged up.
@OS 77 I have a two stage Honda 1332, and a single stage Honda 720. The single stage rarely gets used. It's pretty much useless for the type and volume of snow in my area.
@@steve8803 The little Honda 720 is too small and not propelled. MY Toro has power wheels and a much bigger receiving area. We don't get a lot of snow but the single stage never plugs up in the wet stuff.
@@RetiredPilot it's propelled by the paddles and it's the same size as a toro. Single stage snowblowers have their place in areas with little snow, but in my area two stage is required.
@@RetiredPilot single stage toro snowblowers propel the same as a Honda. The following is straight from toro "Keep moving to get the job done faster with the Power Propel.® Our unique scraper keeps the paddle in constant contact with the ground, pulling you through the snow." Same thing with my Honda! Also, not all two stage snowblower are alike. My hss1332 has never clogged. It's an absolute monster! My previous two stage snowblower was a toro HD 826, that also never clogged.
There are huge differences in the quality of two-stage snowblowers. It sounds like your neighbor had an underpowered unit. Last winter I burned up a single stage Toro trying to cut through 15-18" drifts (we have two very large driveways). I have had both types, and after not having a two-stage for a few years, broke down and bought a new one recently. I went with a 400+CC/20 ft-lb unit from a reputable manufacturer. A single stage is near worthless on the 2 foot+ pile of snow/ice left by a snowplow out at the street. Two-stage are best for heavy, wet and/or deep snow. Single-stage are ok for moderate/lighter snow amounts and are quicker and easier to maneuver if the circumstances warrant it.
As a perosn that only needs to clear a two car driveway my Toro does just fine even in heavy wet snow. those three are in the 2-3 thousand price range, a bit overkill for my needs.
Je ne connais pas les Ariens et Toro, elles semblent très bien aussi. Ce que je sais, ma Honda est incroyable, un monstre de travail pendant de longues heures en forêt dans 3-4 pieds de neige, démarre le matinnd'un coup de crinque après avoir passé la nuit à l'extérieur à -20. Facile à manoeuvrer avec les chenilles sans forcer du dos comparativement avec le modèle à roues. (Ma première était à roues).
Im not as concerned about the ability of the snow blower throwing the snow 60 feet as i am watching this guy yank and pull the machines backwards, snow blowers are pretty much useless when it comes to backing up , I'm going to be switching to either a tractor with a snow blower or a stand on unit. Either way, i need to save my back ..
I would like to see the front of the machines. The new machines have very tall mouths but an auger that only is only half that height. When cutting into a snow drift of hard snow the blower just undercuts into the drift. I think it’s a gimmick to offer a huge mouth on the blower but it’s useless if n anything but fresh powder.
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Have a 25 year old Ariens ST1032 that runs like a Swiss watch and crushes snow every year! Love it.
I have a 59 year old Ariens 10M4 (ST424) that always starts by the 2nd pull and is built like a Sherman tank. I'll take it over the flimsy things in this video any day.
I have 3 old ST1032. Stronger impellers compared to the last 15 years. I have 2"gravel. light impellers bend and rub too easily. I have never bend an old style. Canada
Have a 25 year old Ariens ST1024 Pro that runs like a Swiss watch too, and crushes snow every year here in snowy New Hampshire and I Love it.
I got that one too!
I didn't care for this video because the Ariens was not in track mode but the others were. I am most interested in the Ariens brand and wanted to see how it stacked up to the other two.
The Honda was their 32" wide model, and the other 2 were 28" wide models. So right off the bat the Honda has a definite advantage in the amount of snow it can throw at any given time.
@@bwillan The purpose of this video was to showcase throwing distance. The width of the bucket is not an advantage. The Toro and the Ariens have a 420cc engine and the Honda has a 390cc. The Honda won this particular test, and it wasn't close. Even though on paper Toro says up to 65 ft. for the 1428, Ariens says 60 ft. for the pro 28 hydro and Honda says 56 ft. for the HSS1332. Either Toro and Ariens are lying, or Honda vastly underrates throwing distance! Also, toro rates their 32" version(TRX HD 1432) as having 60 ft. throwing distance which utilizes the same engine. 5 ft. less than their 28" model, again going to prove the the extra bucket width is not an advantage for a throwing distance comparison. And is actually a disadvantage is toro's case. While Ariens rates their big dog 32" verison(Kraken) as having the same 60ft. throwing distance as this 28" version, both using the same 420cc engine. Honda rates their 28" version as having 52 ft., pretty damn close to their 32" rating which is damn impressive considering their 28" utilizes a much smaller 270cc engine.
@@steve8803 The problem I see is the wheel mode caused it to climb up and tile back by 15~20 degrees. This caused the snow to be launched at a more vertical angle and ruining the throw distance.
@@steve8803 Honda sucks because they do not even give you hand warmers. It shows how much they care about their customers comfort.
@daryldaryl887 Handwarmers?? Hey bud up here in the north we all have hand warmers, ear warmers, foot warmers, leg warmers, chest warmers. We call them WINTER CLOTHES! Give them a try sometime.
I bought an Ariens Deluxe with the larger engine three years ago and I love it. Starts first time every time and really throws the snow.
I've been trying to find a Honda HSS928 for a while now to compare to the Ariens RapidTrak Pro 28 and the Toro PowerTRX 28. Unfortunately, it appears Honda is not making any at this time and I have not been able to find one within 150 miles of me.
I like the overhead view you used in this video.
A couple suggestions to make this a more accurate test.
1. Mark out a 100 feet (30 meters)
2. Be sure you are familiar with each model before you use it so you have an accurate comparison. For, example put the RapidTrak in "track mode," the PowerTRX in "float" and the Honda will need to be in "lock" so the front end stays down. The Ariens and Toro are designed to work the best in that deep snow in those positions. In these modes, they should all clear down to the surface/pavement and not leave any snow in the area they are clearing.
3.. Use each one down and back on the course and time how long it takes to go the 100 feet. Push the capacity of the snowblowers as hard as you can.
My guess is you will see the Ariens will have the most capacity and clear the snow the fastest. The Toro will throw the snow the farthest but won't be quite as fast as the Ariens for capacity. The Honda will also throw the snow as far as the Toro but it will be the slowest for capacity.
Exactly Paul
and there is a learning curve with the RapidTrak with regards
to which of the 3 modes: (wheel, track, dig)
And,
depth of snow,
type of snow,
pace of operator.
Throwing distance will vary with the RapidTrak depending on conditions listed.
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Acme didn't get any hondas in this year. I heard from some contacts the honda plant in Georgia is all messed up. Not sure if thats were the snowblowers are made. I am looking at getting a Husqvarna they seem to be the closest to a honda.
Honda will be the most reliable in a long run. I would stick with Honda or Yamaha. Japanese know how to make good reliable stuff.
@@ABC-nv8ly I do the honda but you can't get one. Maybe next year. We have a good husqvarna dealer in town. I was looking at Ariens but i don't like how they build their track.
Volume of snow moved is more important than distance, anything over 35 feet is already more than enough.
What you say is true until the snow gets real deep. Having the ability to throw snow high and far, in one pass, makes a world of difference when your driveway looks like a 10' snow wall on either side and your current blower can't throw it that high to get rid of it. At that point you're moving it two or three times instead of moving it once.
@@jameskoskinen6763 I live in Buffalo NY (review the snow storm history) and never ran into that issue and still deem it more important on the volume of snow the machine is capable of moving.
Both volume and distance are important. You need to be able to stack the snow in strategic locations for most residential applications. For me the Honda throws over 50 feet and that is what I need to be able to get it to the edges of my driveway.
Distance and height is more important to me, i have a wide driveway that i can only throw one way, it piles up high very quickly here in alaska.
@@MrEroupe If I ever move to Alaska I'll keep that in mind. :)
0:45 I would have liked to have seen the Ariens done in tire mode 1st, like it was done in this video, & then track mode thereafter.
The Ariens was the only one to have its "Tires spin" before it started to force itself to ramp up. If the options there while going against 2 tracked machines? Then it would make sense to test it against them in track mode &/or both options to even compare against itself.
I'm not to say this video was a setup again Ariens or anything, but what if being in track mode it bogged it down worse compared to the others? Reducing its best throwing option track or tire?
Good video, just wish to have seen that.
I agree with Scott, Arien was tested in wheel mode not track mode.
@@giopipino9594👍 I just bought the Kraken 32' for 2023/24.... So far so DAAAAAAAMN good!
Congratulations that a nice purchase, I have the Alpine 28' (It was delivered at the end of last years season so I have not used it yet) @@ScottWhalen81
There is a good reason that every ski resort from Tahoe to Colorado to Utah use Honda snowblowers exclusively. They are kept out in the weather, at high altitudes and MASSIVE amounts of snow and will never let you down.
Do you work at all of these ski resorts?? That's quite the statement you just made!
@@jayk.8192 you are right, I got the 1332 and it's a tank
I’ve had 30 inch Radiation King for over 35 years. It is a beautiful piece of kit.
Guy in video didn't know how to work that Ariens Rapidtrak.. he left it in wheel mode instead of track
Thank you for the great video just what I needed to see. no extra fluff.
Glad it was helpful!
Next question: Which snowblower throws snow the LEAST distance? Of the many snowblowers I’ve owned, the most pathetic by far has been my Cub Cadet 3X30HD. In perfect snow conditions, it works okay (not considering its several other drawbacks), but in most snow conditions its performance is anemic, such as sometimes throwing snow 8 feet or less and often struggling to reach the edge of my 11-foot driveway.
The 3-phase snow blower promises power but falls flat where it counts. They're notoriously unreliable, prone to breakdowns just when you need them most. And when it comes to throwing snow, don’t expect miracles-it barely gets the job done. Save yourself the hassle and look for a machine that can truly handle winter’s worst!
You did not have the Ariens RapidTrak in track mode
and could have also used dig mode
By leaving it in wheel mode, it tried to climb up the snow
Do Over to be accurate
we did not do a dig mode test
or a traction test
just showed you how far it can throw
Car Question. Kind of a useless video. Wether a machine throws snow 50 or 60 ft is pretty irrelevant in my experience. But you are wrong about the traction mode affecting the throwing distance. Smooth steady forward progress definitely affects the throwing distance.
@@ziks3000 track mode helps get more snow in the bucket, as opposed to climbing up on the snow. More snow into the second stage (14”dia.) produces more throw distance as the engine get the proper load on it and the second stage has enough snow to throw. The RapidTrak needs 8+ inches of snow to be effective, otherwise, I use my smaller Craftsman.
So, unless you have used a RapidTrak, it would seem logical that I’m wrong, but I have experienced this with my machine.
You are right about throwing distance, as that feature is more of bragging rights.
Looks like all 3 are excellent at throwing a lot of snow plenty far for anyone's use.
Indeed but this is always a big question when it comes to snowblowers
I bought my 2 stage Toro in 2016. The first time I used it, gas started leaking out of it. I got that fixed and it's been great ever since. I payed $800 for it.
Team Honda. Was that the 928 or 1332?
Read the description of the video (1332).
I’ve got my 1986 Yardman Snow Wolf, dual horizontal auger that is still running and operating awesomely. It was free to me 20 yrs ago.
I bought my Ariens brand new 14 years ago and it runs flawlessly every year. I can tune it up and change the oil myself no problem. Parts are cheap/easy to find. Only part I’ve ever had to replace was the rubber primer because the rubber started to crack. I would also not recommend the corded power-start…. the machines don’t need it. 1-2 pulls and it’s running! Blows the snow plenty far.
My Ariens is 59 years old and didn't even come with a primer bulb so there's none to need replacing :) It also fires up by the 2nd pull every time. Mine was made in 1965 and is a model 10M4 (ST424).
@@Rebel9668 yup! They are definitely a “buy once, cry once” machine! I’ll keep mine till I’m dead and gone!
My Ariens is almost impossible to start. My lawn mower with a Honda engine starts half way through the first pull EVERY time. I never use gas stabilizer in the lawn mower. Take it out of the shed in the Spring and it starts half way through the first pull......EVERY season. The Ariens is VERY difficult to start. HOW could they let it out of the factory in such a condition? Top dollar for a dud.
So is no one going to comment on how the Ariens bucket rose up immediately and the others did not?
People did. He had it set in wheel mode. Not a very good test. It absolutely would have stayed down in track mode.
Personnellement très satisfait de ma Ariens, mais Honda est une classe à part selon moi. Avoir l'argent, j'irais avec une Honda !
Moi aussi très satisfait de ma Ariens....
On mentionne toujours la distance projetée de la Honda... mais jamais de la quantitée...
Ma Ariens dégage 79 tonnes à l'heure tandis que la Honda seulement 56... pour la même grosseur de souffleuse...
Ariens for the win
Ah... et elle est plus abordable!
Pour avoir essayer les deux, les Ariens mange beaucoup plus la neige que les Honda peuvent le faire (dans les même grosseurs de souffleuse à neige). Cela dit, pour le prix, Ariens est loins devant Honda!
Honda for sure 🖤
our favorite model :)
Japanese know how to make quality and reliability.
Curious, how come you didn't put the Ariens into track mode? It would have prevented the bucket from rising up.
All snow blower where in normal position. that wont change at all the throwing distance. And note that it's nearly impossible to recreate the exacte same snow and condition for all test. we need a test lab for that.
@@CarQuestion Yes I fully understand about the snow conditions and throwing distance but that has nothing to do with what my question was. The RapidTrak is unique where you can have wheel or track mode. That is the advantage of the setup. There is no normal mode. Either way cool video and those are probably the three best machines you can buy. The Honda will throw the furthest, the Ariens will move the most snow the quickest, and the Toro is somewhere in the middle.👍
@@smallblock412 Yes, you are right about the track setup. But we did not do a full review as we dit on the french channel since my co-host was french. But if you have an area where you need an agile machine, this setup works fine. Even more on a flat surface when more traction is required. But in the deep stuff, the Honda has better traction! Cool system to go around a spa or in tight spaces, but not the best traction.
@@CarQuestion Understanding a products functions are necessary if you want to make a real review. Hope you figured it out during the full review. I will watch it now.
@@dagjohnsen i know how it work
Toro seems to throw the furthest. Love Toro they're always trying to innovate, make things better, their quick stick is untouchable.. no shear pins, anti clogging system is amazing..
I like Ariens too But they stick with old stuff too much need to innovate.. I guess that's cool if you like that..
Also did anyone know Toro is the first company to put out a stand behind two stage snowblower.. 1952....
Ariens was 1952 but not a stand behind machine. There's was an attachment to a vehicle of some kind for commercial use big property..
So Toro Was first at innovating even back then. they knew they could make tons of money selling homeowners snow blowers..
And they still do that today in my opinion..
They have a real good nack for knowing what matters and what doesn't.. Even the little things.. So that saves them money and the consumer money..
Pretty ingenious..
It's just a shame that will all that innovation you lose out on reliability. Even Ariens pails in terms of reliability when it comes to how long they last. I don't know what Honda does but thier stuff just seems to last. Don't change the oil, old gas etc etc, come time to use it, it just works.
@@WilliamStewart1
I don't know where you're getting your information from but current Toro in Ariens snow blowers If you take care of them. Will last 20 and 30 years.
I know friends that have some of these Toro and Aryan snow blowers they've had for a 13 and 15 years having no problems at all other than some rust they have to fix. Maybe occasional cable. But if you defrost your snowblower, use silicone spray, WD-40 after every snow throw, Grease your fittings every year, put some oil or grease on the transmission shaft, You know the disc that goes back and forth not the disc itself or the rubber piece what the rubber piece slides on.
And probably the best thing to protect your snow blower that people overlook ceramic nano coating just like they have on cars.
You take care of your engine, drain the oil change the oil, put the additive in your gas tank IT SHOULD LAST YOU AT LEAST 20 YEARS EVEN MORE!!
Snowblower technology in terms of the main parts, gears, bearings, transmission, discs and stuff like that really haven't changed..
And what's great about because that's type of technology have not changed those parts are always available even 30-year-old Toro and Ariens has all these parts still!!
So I don't get your point.
How many people do you know have engines seize or something really bad happened to their Toro or Ariens snow blowers.
Think about a snowblower for a second!! It's like a car!! It really is but easier to take care of!! What's great though is you can do the maintenance yourself much easier than a car in a lot of cases.
Or make a big difference have a service center service it every year.
The paint in the metal on the snow blowers whether it's Ariens or Toro is fantastic.. again look at cars. The outer coating on these cars and the paint It's pretty much the same thing that's on the snow blowers. And they're in the elements in every season unlike a snowblower.. cuz we'll start to rust after 10 years.. and to rust through if you take care of it might last you 20... But rust is easily fixable. This is why Toro actually started using plastic shoots and they guaranteed a lifetime of performance.. they don't rust. But people started to complain so they went back to metal.. Even though they're probably feel like the plastic would last longer.
So again I don't know where you're coming from and where you get your information from.. Your liability of these snow blowers is still amazing no matter if you have an old one or a new one. There's differences in thickness of metal between the two Ariens being a little bit more thicker but that doesn't mean it's going to last longer.. You take care of your product you'll be just fine..
@@WilliamStewart1
And is even an old timer who fixes snow blowers his name is Paul I forget his last name begins with an s. He's been taking care of snow blowers for years. If you want to spend a little more on the better snow blowers. Meaning the proline commercial line costing about $2,000 He claims they will last you a lifetime. That would be Arians or Toro..
;)
@@WilliamStewart1
In terms of Honda it makes perfect sense anyways just like a car. It's more important That you have enough oil then changing your oil. You get more mileage out of your car if you change your oil but it's not a huge difference that people think.
And that's the case for Ariens or Toro..
I think they're all pretty good for reliability I don't really think one is really different than the other.. I just think that Toro seems to understand what matters and what doesn't..
In other words they know that a bigger screws, thicker metal does not necessarily mean it's going to last longer. So that's why a lot of Toro products are a little bit cheaper than the equivalent of an Ariens.. as I've already stated and explained about the real thin metal on cars How long they last.
So I don't know your experiences but I know my experiences and tons of people I know actually would pick an Aries and a Toro over a Honda 6 days a week and twice on Sunday.
They are known to be the most long-lasting best snow blowers and throwers out there.
And that's coming from experts, old-timers, repair shops etc....
I think a lot of the time people just buy some new snow blowers because the other ones are just old. They probably work just fine with a little care and maintenance.
So you can't count that. They're easily fixed.. engines, carburetors, and build quality are all the same.. It's slightly different Then car engines. Not as critical.. Not as many parts blah blah blah..
Even the Chinese engines have caught up and they copy everyone else and there reliable also..
@@WilliamStewart1
For instance I just copy and paste this from Google.. I did not change the words.
It's just what I thought. And have experienced and listen to everybody.
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Cheaper single stage snowblowers have an average lifespan of around 10 years however a high quality two or three stage snowblower, when properly maintained, cleaned, and stored, can last 15 to 25 years.
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Exactly 15 to 25 years!! That's a long time just like a car just like I said!!
Maintain them you'll probably get 20 to 25 years!!
I'm just glad I picked the new battery powered Toro snowblower E26 and they have the E24!! I'm an electronics guru. Been fixing electronics for 30 years pretty much everything, including phones and computers I'm an engineer.. and a lot more.
These electronic motors last a long time. Did you ever hear of the power curve 1800 by Toro ( the single stage corded 25 lb plastic snowblower 🤣 )
I'VE HAD MINE FOR 13 YEARS AND IT STILL WORKS!! I've done absolutely nothing to it other than replace a belt And a pulley assembly. Basically a plastic wheel after 10 years. Still runs The electric motor is rusty. RUNS AS GOOD AS THE DAY I GOT IT. AND THAT IS A BRUSHED MOTOR!!
The battery powered PowerMax E24 and E26 is a brushless motor much more powerful much higher quality. You take care of it It should last a long time.
Just like all the other lines from Ariens and Toro..
You didn't drop the ariens into track mode
Dude didn’t even lock the tracks down on Ariens had it in wheel mode and use reverse save your back.
I'm fine
It was just one demo
Thanks for asking
why wasn't the Arein's in track mode?
Biased Honda lover maybe.
Ariens best snowblower
Why
@@CarQuestion by reputation is my guess
Ariens are almost impossible to start. A Honda will start half way through the first pull......EVERY time.
@@rael5469 Honda made on China now garbyge
@@lucproulx2855 That's sad if true. Very sad.
If you could only buy 1 of the 3, which would you buy for the amount of snow used in the demonstration? Inquiring minds want to know!
Honda
@@CarQuestion That's what I run! Cadillac of snowblowers!
@@mattdavis9521 That Cadillac clogs badly in heavy wet snow! And the incredibly slow electric chute rotation makes clogging 10 time worse because you have to stop forward motion and wait for the chute, causing wet snow clogs in the chute. Honda is discontinuing their snowblower division after next year.
@@willstark 😆 true story, and I’m a die hard Honda guy. The toro snowblower is the only non Honda thing in my garage. Otherwise it’s Honda mower,generators,power washer, car, dirt bike.
@@mattdavis9521 How can it be a Cadillac when they don't put heated grips at all?
Imo there is no comparison to the Ariens RapidTrak on track snowblowers. The Honda did seem to blow snow the farthest but that doesn't mean it's the most volume.
The Honda engine is the best of the bunch though. Will last forever with minor maintenance. I have an Ariens and it's great but my Honda starts easier and is very easy to maintain. Have a power washer from Sears with a Honda engine that runs on the first or second pull after 20+ years. Something to be said for that.
Ariens is the beast here.. could not be happier
I prefer Airens snowblowers. I've always had the best performance and reliability with them.
Toro says the HD 1428 and 1432 will throw snow 60 plus feet. My Toro HD 1232 throws heavy wet snow 50 plus feet and powder way beyond that. Even in the heavy wet snow the Toro anti clog system never clogs. Last winter here in southeastern MI we got hit with 8 inches of wet slop that really tested my Toro's ability to not clog. Was out blowing that mess for over an hour and not time did the machine even hit of clogging. I don't know about Honda or Ariens ability because I don't own or ever used one in extremely heavy wet snow conditions. Toro's anti clog system works as advertised. If had to own a tracked snow blower, I would opt for the Honda due to its hydrostatic geared drive system. One reason they cost so much. As far are blowing snow, I think all three machines perform very well. The Ariens was not in track mode, so its results were not fair.
orry, but the Toro with tracks is just a ticking time bomb of problems that Toro hasn't even solved yet! If you have wheels, you'll be fine for now, except for vibrations under heavy load.
@@CarQuestion Mine is the wheeled version of Toro's Power Max HD machines. I've had my machine for several years now and there is no vibration under heavy loads. The machine works flawlessly. The only thing I didn't like was first gear was not slow enough and that was elevated with a simple adjustment of the shift rod. Now is goes very slow in first gear when needed. And the quick stick shoot control works great, once you get the hang of using it. I looked at Ariens and Honda, ruled out Honda due to the costs. Ariens makes a great snow blower, but I didn't want a machine with auto steer, so I opted to go with Toro, which my local dealer sells, along with Honda and Cub Cadet. Honda, Ariens and Toro are all good machines. If I had to have a machine with tracks, I would go with the Honda. From all the research I did before making my purchase, I found many complain of the Honda clogging in very heavy wet snow. Love the Honda drive system, it is no doubt the best in the industry as far as snow blowers go.
Honda is the Bridgeman’s Ice Cream Parlor Shooter Brooklyn Center Choice- I don’t know-the electro-hydraulic joystick auger Controller on the Toro seems to be a little more up my alley.
Were the reverse gears not working in these three machines? Why are you physically jerking them backwards? And you hade the Ariens in wheel mode.
Weak comparison.
It's called deep fluffy snow under the tracks
@@CarQuestion Ok
I know the middle one is honda, but what's the first one tested ?. They don't tell us wich is wich. I want something that's not going to bog down in heavy wet snow & able to toss it far without having to spend a fortune.
Toro. Dont buy it.
@@CarQuestion i was looking at honda or ariens but there price is nut's, a used Honda hs80 is sold for almost the price of new same for ariens. This is nuts.
Maybe but today I don't feel nuts !!
@@CarQuestion . I am not talking about 2022 models but 2018 models for almost $5000.00 used at that price i can get a 2024 from the dealer.
i know, price are crazy since availability is still low
Just watching him pull those snowblower gave me back pain
compare all you want on videos i been blowing snow in Mn for 45 yrs Have has snappers, deeres, husqvarnas, torros wont but nothing now but ariens platinums or deluexs I now own 2 deluxe 28 and 1 platimnum 28 trac
No honda or yamaha ?
@@CarQuestion If he's in the USA, you can't buy Yamaha, unless it's a really old beat one on marketplace. Can't buy them new in USA.
My Ariens snow thrower has been hard to start literally from day one. I am extremely disappointed. You pay top dollar for an Ariens and then the thing is just taking up space in the shed.
My lawnmower with a Honda engine starts half way through the first pull of the season for EIGHT years now. Hondas are extremely reliable. Ariens?......not so much.
With the effort it takes to get the thing started I could have SHOVELED the driveway. It's like Al Bundy's car.....he pushes it back and forth to work.
@rael5469 Hello
To fix your problem use sea foam in your fuel!
@@JeffJohnson-1982 Thanks for the advice. I ended up cleaning and gapped the spark plug. Draining the carburetor, and I also added Stabil, fuel stabilizer, and then sprayed starting fluid during the start attempt. It fired right up with the starting fluid. It was much easier than it sounded the way I wrote it. From now on I'll use the starting fluid to get it to light off. But the spark plug was a little dirty and the gap was too wide. I'm sure that didn't help.
@rael5469 Hi there
Your welcome!
Seafoam works everytime! Remember to drain and run your machine out of fuel in the spring. Also drain your oil every spring!
Good luck!
Happy New Year!
My neighbour has a two stage blower, I have a single stage Toro. In wet snow he stops every few minutes to clear the shut my Toro has never plugged up.
@OS 77 I have a two stage Honda 1332, and a single stage Honda 720. The single stage rarely gets used. It's pretty much useless for the type and volume of snow in my area.
@@steve8803 The little Honda 720 is too small and not propelled. MY Toro has power wheels and a much bigger receiving area. We don't get a lot of snow but the single stage never plugs up in the wet stuff.
@@RetiredPilot it's propelled by the paddles and it's the same size as a toro. Single stage snowblowers have their place in areas with little snow, but in my area two stage is required.
@@RetiredPilot single stage toro snowblowers propel the same as a Honda. The following is straight from toro "Keep moving to get the job done faster with the Power Propel.® Our unique scraper keeps the paddle in constant contact with the ground, pulling you through the snow." Same thing with my Honda! Also, not all two stage snowblower are alike. My hss1332 has never clogged. It's an absolute monster! My previous two stage snowblower was a toro HD 826, that also never clogged.
There are huge differences in the quality of two-stage snowblowers. It sounds like your neighbor had an underpowered unit. Last winter I burned up a single stage Toro trying to cut through 15-18" drifts (we have two very large driveways). I have had both types, and after not having a two-stage for a few years, broke down and bought a new one recently. I went with a 400+CC/20 ft-lb unit from a reputable manufacturer. A single stage is near worthless on the 2 foot+ pile of snow/ice left by a snowplow out at the street. Two-stage are best for heavy, wet and/or deep snow. Single-stage are ok for moderate/lighter snow amounts and are quicker and easier to maneuver if the circumstances warrant it.
Since we are only comparing distance and not volume of snow.
That honda killed it
1. Honda
2. Ariens
3. toro
Honda for me to
The only thing I like about all three of them is that they're red no just kidding I like the speed of the Honda in reverse
My Honda 928 track model was underpowered.. too slow.
Ariens simply the best !!!
Agreed had a toro before, I find the aliens a better machine, they know winter in Wisconsin…..
Lol no. Honda and Yamaha are in a class of their own.
Distance isn’t everything, just like size isn’t everything. 😉
Honda everytime
1332 power !
Ariens doesn't have the tracks set right at all.
Haha honda hands down of course 🤣
This really tell tell us nothing about them other than they work as advertised.
Instead of crying in the comments 😢 ask what you want to know!
As a perosn that only needs to clear a two car driveway my Toro does just fine even in heavy wet snow. those three are in the 2-3 thousand price range, a bit overkill for my needs.
Je ne connais pas les Ariens et Toro, elles semblent très bien aussi. Ce que je sais, ma Honda est incroyable, un monstre de travail pendant de longues heures en forêt dans 3-4 pieds de neige, démarre le matinnd'un coup de crinque après avoir passé la nuit à l'extérieur à -20. Facile à manoeuvrer avec les chenilles sans forcer du dos comparativement avec le modèle à roues. (Ma première était à roues).
A quand la version francaise?
Francaise ????
I will take the Areins!!! They invented the snowblower in 1933! So alot more experience!!
Honda for me.
No Yamaha in the Comparo? Pffft. 🙄
Next time
@@CarQuestion Finding one is the problem......Canada
Funny ariens snow pile was higher
Im not as concerned about the ability of the snow blower throwing the snow 60 feet as i am watching this guy yank and pull the machines backwards, snow blowers are pretty much useless when it comes to backing up , I'm going to be switching to either a tractor with a snow blower or a stand on unit. Either way, i need to save my back ..
when there is a whole / hill under our test area, it's normal to yank it a little !
Cub cadet owners getting turnt in the comments, as if it could hold its own. There's a reason they aren't in many test comparisons.
You never answer the question.
It's because you are the judge!
All overpriced for what they actually do and how many times you use it.
That was not good the Ariens too should have been in track mode ,and no explanation of how easy they were to navigate.
I would like to see the front of the machines. The new machines have very tall mouths but an auger that only is only half that height. When cutting into a snow drift of hard snow the blower just undercuts into the drift.
I think it’s a gimmick to offer a huge mouth on the blower but it’s useless if n anything but fresh powder.