Finally Peter Hammill’s solo work is getting the attention it deserves! And on top of that, it’s being done by two of the best music commentators. He is my personal favourite musician! Emotional, courageous, and can eloquently say so much about the human experience.
I am delighted that Peter Hammill came top. Considering he has been releasing albums once or twice a year through the period covered by the Album Years, and you have been referencing him regularly, I would have been surprised if he did not feature. I discovered PH in the late 1970s with the PH7 album. I went off and collected his back catalogue and the VDGG catalogue over the next few years. What an eclectic mix of music this is!! As Steven says, there is no obvious “in door” album to start with. His voice can be “marmite”. I sometimes struggle with his shouty barking style myself. (Enough with the existential angst, just sing it Peter!)
Btw, does someone know what Hammill is up to at the moment? He went very off-radar since his health problems and is releasing way less music than in the past and almost no updates on sofasound.....I really hope he's ok!
Concerning Hammill: you forgot one CRUCIAL point: his voice. It's a love or hate thing. Since all his music is very centered on his singing and his delivery is very unusual for the most part, lots of people will never dive into his large, beautiful, strange, unique body of work
When I was in my early teens Pink Floyd's Ummagumma introduced me to music that used sonic materials that are usually considered outside the realm of proper music. I knew nothing of musique concrète or the 20th century avant-garde. I realized that the whole sonic world is available to us to organize as music. It was a watershed moment in my life.
What I wouldn’t give to have Steven Wilson remix some of Peter Hammill’s solo albums!!! Please make it happen one day @StevenWilsonHQ and @cherryredgroup! You could make it a labor of love 😉
I know you got Battiato' covered, but there's another mainstream Italian artist who was gattin' 'sperimental in 1974 and made a "concept" album with a prog group. The opening track is kinda somewhere between Talk Talk and The Blue Nile FFS (and not a little Floyd, now I'm listening again,) and that's just for starters (literally.) I am speaking of Lucio Battisti's Anima Latina.
I didn't grow up with David Bowie, so I never really knew his music apart from the hits. Recently (Im 41 by the way) I decided to listen to all his albums in chronological order. I have always loved Bowie as an artist, I have watched hours of interviews with him, but I'm (genuinely) sad to say his music does very little for me. Of course there are absolutely genius songs (I mean genius to me, to lots of others everything he did is genius of course), but as a whole I'm not really impressed by his repertoire. I know I'm in the minority though. I want to say that maybe with time his music will grow on me, but I don't think it will.
I'd say the best period is from 1971's Bless The Weather (beautiful) to 1981's Glorious Fool (Don't You Go is devastating). Beyond and before, patchy offerings lie.
1. 1st time I see a musician holding the mic so awkwardly 😅 2. Does this love for pink floyd mean that we might meet at David Gilmour s concert in Albert hall??
Yeah it's very hard to recommend any Peter Hammill album blindly. If they've had a, ahem, grounding in Van Der Graaf, then they can start wherever they please. I personally think In Camera is one of his best but for sheer bloody mindedness Loops and Reels is phenomenal but I'm sure for other fans, they have equally valid recommendations.
Where to start with Peter Hammill? Good question, and also good answer they give. It really depends. Fools mate, Nadir, Enter K maybe for those who like the more accessible song format. For those who are already into prog rock stuff, maybe they can do directly to Silent corner and In camera. Or maybe start with Flight from A black box.
Lol...in whatever situation (solo or with PT), I've never had any kind of obvious connection between Steve Wilson and Pink Floyd. In fact, I'll see comments all the time about how folks like the Pink Floyd essence or sound in a SW or PT tune, and 95% of the time, I don't see it. I would say Wilson's approach to MAKING music has more of a PF approach versus a direct steal from the sound. And just to qualify, I love most of the SW's or PT's catalogue, and I think more so because any Pink Floyd influence isn't so obvious (I'm also a massive Floyd fan).
@@nuisanceguru Good point. In my comment, I almost typed "with the exception of some of his earlier stuff" which would be the majority chunk of that 5% of the time when I DO hear something of his that sounds Floydian.
Excluding one name that I personally cannot put in any list...there are Huge names...in there.... Thank youuuuu...for another SUPER LOVELY PODCAST... Tim and Steven!!!🙏👍💯💎🎙💎📀💎💞💗💕💞🌬🌊🎶
We didn't come up with the list. It was apparently generated by an AI app. Given that we have discussed Kate Bush, Joni Mitchell, Alice Coltrane and Jane Siberry a fair amount, we were surprised they didn't make the list. Ditto Sylvian/Japan and The Blue Nile.
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Finally Peter Hammill’s solo work is getting the attention it deserves! And on top of that, it’s being done by two of the best music commentators. He is my personal favourite musician! Emotional, courageous, and can eloquently say so much about the human experience.
Full and unedited episodes please! (best podcast ever )👹
PH has a very devoted following. Am happy to be one of them.
You could spend many years trying to digest all of Peter Hammill’s solo (and with VdGG) records - so much great stuff
Ha! My "Where's Prince?" question made it to the podcast!
I am delighted that Peter Hammill came top. Considering he has been releasing albums once or twice a year through the period covered by the Album Years, and you have been referencing him regularly, I would have been surprised if he did not feature. I discovered PH in the late 1970s with the PH7 album. I went off and collected his back catalogue and the VDGG catalogue over the next few years. What an eclectic mix of music this is!! As Steven says, there is no obvious “in door” album to start with. His voice can be “marmite”. I sometimes struggle with his shouty barking style myself. (Enough with the existential angst, just sing it Peter!)
Steven Wilson must be now the happiest person on this planet. This is why having loving family is so important.
You should invite Peter Hammill as a guest at some point.. and maybe run through his solo discography in 15 parts or something
Awesome idea! But that would be a loooong video😂
Btw, does someone know what Hammill is up to at the moment? He went very off-radar since his health problems and is releasing way less music than in the past and almost no updates on sofasound.....I really hope he's ok!
He Is preparing the solo tour in Italy and writing new music
Concerning Hammill: you forgot one CRUCIAL point: his voice. It's a love or hate thing. Since all his music is very centered on his singing and his delivery is very unusual for the most part, lots of people will never dive into his large, beautiful, strange, unique body of work
Timelord, Otto Spooky, The Ultraconformist. 3 great Momus albums.
I started getting into Momus about 3 years ago and there's so much to discover.
I like the term “a moving to silence”. As an older song writer I can really appreciate a concept of silent music aka ambience, tone building.
At last, a much deserved recognition of Peter Hammill's genius!
When I was in my early teens Pink Floyd's Ummagumma introduced me to music that used sonic materials that are usually considered outside the realm of proper music. I knew nothing of musique concrète or the 20th century avant-garde. I realized that the whole sonic world is available to us to organize as music. It was a watershed moment in my life.
Love you guys give some love to Peter Hammill
The Ham!
What I wouldn’t give to have Steven Wilson remix some of Peter Hammill’s solo albums!!! Please make it happen one day @StevenWilsonHQ and @cherryredgroup! You could make it a labor of love 😉
John Cale definitely ought to be mentioned more.
I know you got Battiato' covered, but there's another mainstream Italian artist who was gattin' 'sperimental in 1974 and made a "concept" album with a prog group. The opening track is kinda somewhere between Talk Talk and The Blue Nile FFS (and not a little Floyd, now I'm listening again,) and that's just for starters (literally.) I am speaking of Lucio Battisti's Anima Latina.
Talk Talk...top of the list, should be!
Top of the rest perhaps. Behind Peter Hammill
The most surprising thing about this live podcast is the fact that Steven Wilson is wearing shoes.
You forget Peter Gabriel Tim mentions him often
We’re lucky to have experienced Bowie’s brilliance first hand
Had to be ‘The Ham’ even tho’ was rooting for ELO (who have been mentioned a time or two). 😊
Wonderfull The Album Years boys
I love the interplay, you guys!
Nice! Looking forward to more of this. Wish there was no editing on the live episodes though.
The only time i didn’t want Bowie to change just for one record would be for a Brother release to Station to Station. How good would that have been !
I didn't grow up with David Bowie, so I never really knew his music apart from the hits. Recently (Im 41 by the way) I decided to listen to all his albums in chronological order.
I have always loved Bowie as an artist, I have watched hours of interviews with him, but I'm (genuinely) sad to say his music does very little for me. Of course there are absolutely genius songs (I mean genius to me, to lots of others everything he did is genius of course), but as a whole I'm not really impressed by his repertoire. I know I'm in the minority though. I want to say that maybe with time his music will grow on me, but I don't think it will.
hahahah, of course, THE HAM!
It is so weird that Common One is not way up there for everyone...I cannot imagine his catalog without it.
ohhhh, Veedon Fleece...may be my favorite of all of his.
Todd Rundgren should be mentionned on each and every show about good music. What about Steely Dan ? And The tubes ?
Loving these videos as of recent. Keep it up guys 👍
‘Common One’ is absolutely my fave Van album. I think it’s his best.
I really enjoy the 'Tube vids, but please, please, please put the full podcasts online too fellas... :D
The end of an Album Years video is the low point of my week.
i think the meat that had been beaten for Clara was actually pork and not beef. Just in case someone needs the recipe,
Out of context, your two sentences are a beautiful abstract poem.
Can't believe ABBA isn't top 1
Just looked up Momus.
You guys got me to finally investigate John Martyn...got a ton of releases.
I'd say the best period is from 1971's Bless The Weather (beautiful) to 1981's Glorious Fool (Don't You Go is devastating). Beyond and before, patchy offerings lie.
@@bowness1 yeah, I have definitely noted stylistic and tone differences!
@@bowness1 I meant, I went and got a ton of em!
@@bowness1have to agree.
best album to start with?
1. 1st time I see a musician holding the mic so awkwardly 😅
2. Does this love for pink floyd mean that we might meet at David Gilmour s concert in Albert hall??
Yeah it's very hard to recommend any Peter Hammill album blindly. If they've had a, ahem, grounding in Van Der Graaf, then they can start wherever they please. I personally think In Camera is one of his best but for sheer bloody mindedness Loops and Reels is phenomenal but I'm sure for other fans, they have equally valid recommendations.
Where to start with Peter Hammill? Good question, and also good answer they give. It really depends. Fools mate, Nadir, Enter K maybe for those who like the more accessible song format. For those who are already into prog rock stuff, maybe they can do directly to Silent corner and In camera. Or maybe start with Flight from A black box.
Or what about a sampler/compilation: Part 1: PH-Easy listening/Karaoke , Part 2: It´s complicated
Nice candles.
Lol...in whatever situation (solo or with PT), I've never had any kind of obvious connection between Steve Wilson and Pink Floyd. In fact, I'll see comments all the time about how folks like the Pink Floyd essence or sound in a SW or PT tune, and 95% of the time, I don't see it. I would say Wilson's approach to MAKING music has more of a PF approach versus a direct steal from the sound. And just to qualify, I love most of the SW's or PT's catalogue, and I think more so because any Pink Floyd influence isn't so obvious (I'm also a massive Floyd fan).
La primera vez que escuché PT pensé " WoW, alguien como Pink Floyd, nadie ha hecho eso" luego escuché Eloy y es un caso claro
the most blatant example is voyage 34's delayed palm mutes and bird swells, but other than that i agree with you
@@nuisanceguru Good point. In my comment, I almost typed "with the exception of some of his earlier stuff" which would be the majority chunk of that 5% of the time when I DO hear something of his that sounds Floydian.
As for Van, railing, yeah...in fact, he has become GET OFF MY LAWN central if not adjacent.
Excluding one name that I personally cannot put in any list...there are Huge names...in there....
Thank youuuuu...for another SUPER LOVELY PODCAST...
Tim and Steven!!!🙏👍💯💎🎙💎📀💎💞💗💕💞🌬🌊🎶
I never saw no 1 coming. great choice !!!!!!!!
The ham???
Can't believe XTC aren't in the top 10 - Talk Talk are in it, though, so it's ok.
Very entertaining dialog as usual! But please check again, i think the most pronounced word by both of you was "pastiche"
I often wish Sufjan Stevens would have come along earlier, because I feel like he would sit so perfectly in the stuff you cover, esp the top ten.
Missing: Abba, Donna Summer, Tears for Fears and Frank Zappa
I DEMAND JUSTICE FOR XTC
But youre gay so…
Frank Zappa is really missing here
I was hoping Taylor Swift to be number 1.
🙄
@@lms2932 🙄X2.
People who don’t get her, dont get it ;)
@@peterbuckley9731 🙄🙄
@@peterbuckley9731 It was a joke, I was expecting ABBA.
Im sorry so sick of Floyd. Bowie as well. Im sure Bowie had ghost writer. 😮.
No women made it to this list? Really?? Joni Mitchell, Kate Bush, Laura Nyro, PJ Harvey, Jane Siberry??? Really????
We didn't come up with the list. It was apparently generated by an AI app. Given that we have discussed Kate Bush, Joni Mitchell, Alice Coltrane and Jane Siberry a fair amount, we were surprised they didn't make the list. Ditto Sylvian/Japan and The Blue Nile.
@@bowness1 No ABBA was a surprise.
So anything pale and male, then 😂 there's a window into the RUclips demographic right there. 🎉
And women ??? When come the list???
Pink Floyd sucks lol. Yes and all the other prog rock bands are way better
The Piper and Meddle are good