Yeah, but Wilson says one sentence about "Zeit" and like two about "Marble Index", despite one being his 'favorite of all time' and the other not 'following any of the rules'. Pretty middling content for two such remarkable albums.
PARADE remains my favourite Prince album. So much from Wendy & Lisa on there. It is such a European album full of lavishness. And "Sometimes It Snows In April" remains my favourite ever Prince masterpiece x
'Movement' and the first few singles/EPs (Ceremony, In a Lonely Place, Procession, Everything's Gone Green, Cries and Whispers, Mesh) are my favourite period of New Order, and it's great to see early Durutti Column and that Virginia Astley album get attention. BTW I love 'Common One', and the album would likely appeal to those who like late '70s ECM releases...
I bought Consequences on week of release and absolutely loved it. I was in school at the time and I lent it to my French teacher and he thought it was awful
I love Incantations. I was listening to it just recently. My god when Oldfield was good he was very, very good. Apparently its one of Trevor Horn's favourite albums. I get why everyone focuses in on Tubular Bells but Ommadawn and Incantations are worth so much more attention in my opinion.
even Return to Ommadawn..but also Discovery, Islands, Music of the SPheres, Hergest Ridge and what not? well personally I dont like Man on the Rocks very much.
@@paleasabluedot4043 Yeah Hergest Ridge is another classic of course. There's plenty of great music in Oldfield's post 70's albums but the consistency and quality of his output became much more erratic over the subsequent years. You've got to hand it to him though, he's never been one to just sit around thats for sure. Return to Ommadawn always sounded to me like a fairly promising demo for a much better album produced by someone like Tom Newman.
I bought Consequences the day it came out. £11.99 it cost. Worth every bloody penny. It's just wonderful/ I feel sorry for those who don't get it. A work of genius. I wish Godley and Creme would stop listening to the critics and get behind it. Lost of the critics loved it at the time. The record company had no idea what they had and no idea how to market it. Punk, which I love didn't help it as it arrived not long before it's release. The Environmental message is very valid right now. Go get a copy and really listen.
Wow don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone mention that Virginia Astley album since I bought it at the time.Also I remember “Consequences” was featured heavily on Teatime BBCTV shows when it came out because of the “gizmo”.
So pleased to see the John G Perry record noted. I've had it since it came out - it's lovely. And yes: Canterbiry meets PCO. Also great to see the Astley record. Her former bandmates Nicky Holland and Kate St John have also produced very listenable work.
yayyyyyyy, Olias! It always blows me away that he, the supposed non musician of the band, plays everything, right? I mean, talk about being, as you guys say, gobsmacked!
Coming out of the gate with 'Movement' - wow. I love that album and the first few singles from New Order more than everything that came after. What a great selection, and I quite agree: why wouldn't anyone love 'Common One'?
Some interesting items for me. I love Mike Oldfield, and Incantations is still one of my favorites, close behind Ommadawn (the one that made me a fan). Also a huge Yes fan since the seventies (old man), not so much what they have been in the past 20 years... but I digress. I'm very familar with the "solo albums hiatus", and I have to say that Olias of Sunhillow, to this very day, is still one of my favorite albums of all time. Yes, I completely understand that people can think of it as full blown fairytale silliness, but in a way, that's one of the great things about it, the way Anderson just went off and kind of created this whole world of its own. It's a fucking masterpiece. My favorite of the Yes 1976 solo albums, closely followed by Fish Out Of Water from Squire (and then "I" from Patrick Moraz, that complete lunatic genius... all it was missing was Jean Luc Ponty and Allan Holdsworth and it would have been fully complete). Way back when "Consequences" was new, a friend and roommate at the time (a big 10cc fan) went and bought the triple album epic. (The Hole....). In the place we shared, we each had our bedrooms at opposite ends of the place, with the living room and stereo system in between. Now and then, one of us would put on the album before we headed off to our rooms to bed. As the thing played, each of us could hear the other off in the distance laying in bed laughing our asses off. It certainly was a promo for "the Gizmo", actually made and sold as "the Gizmotron". Back around 1978, a local music store actually had, oddly, one of the bass version (not the guitar version, I have no idea why), so I actually encountered one in the flesh! It was actually kind of rubbish. And let's face it, anybody who wanted to try to do kind of what it did ended up going and buying an e-bow. johneagan.bandcamp.com/
Yanks became Powercuts but same owners I think and same cheap us imports and I had some deep cuts from there. Most obscure but absolute classics are the 3 'Eternal Wind' albums on 'Flying Fish' records, like world fusion on some deep ayawaska trip in the desert, I urge anyone to check out those records. Loving these live highlights from the live show and to add Secret Life of Plants was one of the first albums of Stevie I heard and I adored it for 'Race Babbling' alone. :)
About Incantantions and minimalist prog: i think the influence of Minimalism in Mike Oldfield came from Kevin Ayers. He played with Kevin Ayers, who played in Soft Machine and They had a minimalist side. Even Daevid Allen, who later formed Gong, was friend of Terry Riley. So i think Mike Oldfield took that influence from that side of Canterbury side avoiding the most jazzy part. About the music result: it sounded like a mix of Steve Reich(mallet instruments...actually Gong influence and Moerlen brothers... Who played with Oldfield), Philip Glass( the keyboards), John Adams( some orchestra) and maybe the Steve Howe/Robert Fripp/Steve Hackett fuzz long line guitar solos( though i think Oldfield used a treble booster instead).
Excellent run through. Is DC underrated? See a lot of love for it on Twitter. The first CD I ever bought was a box set of the first 4 DC albums. PS. Will noone mention Otto Spooky? Hopefully one for a future podcast.
Yanks in Manchester... changed its name to Power Cuts in the late 80s. Fantastic! All US and Canadian imports. Apparently the owners would go to the States and buy huge piles of records for next to nothing.....hence the 50p or £1 albums. We too would come back with armfuls of XTC on Geffen and Camel albums on Passport Records!
Around 11:13- ". . albums that don't obey rules sometimes exist outside of time, they exist outside of genres, they exist outside of the Zeitgeist. . . " .S.W.
I loved Van's Common One. I'm just getting into 10cc, their debut being a perfect blend of Beach Boys and Zappa, love it. But if Consequences is the mad songwriting half's output, i'm probably gonna hate it. UPDATE: Yep, i hate it.
Dear Chaps and Chappettes Can I just mention an interesting idea that I heard. I really love Henry Cow - Concerts (1976). I read a quote that basically said that music like this does not exist anymore because people like this do not exist anymore. I am not too sure that I completely agree with that, but I find it an interesting idea that as the culture changes, people change and maybe tastes change. Maybe? You may try Henry Cow - Keeping Warm in Winter-Sweet Heart of Mine from the album "Concerts". For 8 minutes it is a difficult listen and then (for me) it bursts into pure magic. Okay 2 pieces of (small) controversy. I believe that if the truth exists, it is written on a piece of paper floating upside sown towards a drain. Here are two pieces of "gold" that I have NEVER had anyone tell me that they liked these pieces. This Heat "The Fall of Saigon" (Peel session). Over the years my love for this track has almost reached the heights of This Heat "Health and Efficiency" and as you know Mozart and Beethoven combined could not have surpassed that. Okay deep breath. The most forgotten piece of gold is Alternative TV / Good Missionaries "Scars on Sunday" On the Good Missionaries side, look for "The Good Missionary goes for a walk. It starts with Mark Perry shouting "Restaurants, vibing up the senile man." Honestly, I do not think that any of the performers are "musicians", but for me, this is that lightning in a jar. I bought it on cassette when Keith Dobson first released it and I have loved it ever since. Keep up the good work
Dear Chaps and Chappettes I am 62years old so I feel that I no longer need to say sorry for too much. Donovan - "Epistle To Derroll" from "A Gift from a Flower to a Garden" is something that I have loved for the last 30 odd years or so, from when I lived in Ireland. This is the first time that I have ever anybody speak about how good this album is. It is timeless. Chaps, you are alright with me. Keep up the good work
the L'Amour record by Lewis is far more Blue Nile than Bryan Ferry/Roxy. I even hear underpinnings of John Martyn style phrasing. a brilliant record. the second record by Lewis is more trashed Ferry/Roxy. the second record also has a very Twin Peaks feel as well. love the album years. always informative and well spoken.
Elton John's 1976 BLUE MOVES is that one album in his catalogue that isn't necessarily easy accessible yet it is my favourite or 2nd favourite of Elton's. A flawed near-masterpiece? Thanks for the heads-up on A Certain Ratio's TO EACH album. Enjoying it. Thanks for these Podcasts: I have been introduced or re-introduced to lots of great records. You are responsible for my ever expanding vinyl collection and my need for new vinyl bins!!
I'm glad I never saved up and wasted my pocket money on Consequences. I just bought the single which has the only 2 good tracks. When I heard the whole thing years later I thought it was awful.
Yanks - interesting and true story. Every album cover had a notch cut out on the top corner. The reason for this was that all the records were unsold leftovers in The United States and they were used as ballast on ships. The notch was to identify them as ballast. Yanks bought these records in England and got what they could for them.
Not familiar with records being used as ballast, but records with those notches cut into the jackets were called “cut outs” and this was done to identify records that were remaindered items and could not be sent back or returned, and were meant to be sold at a discount. They made the cuts as a visual, physical way to keep them from being sold at full price as new. These records were often found in “cut out bins” at retailers, where buyers would shop for discounted vinyl. Perhaps someone used a bunch of old albums as ballast, but that’s not the reason such records were marked with a notch.
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18 minutes of this is not enough. I could sit here all day listening to this.😂
keep your hair on dave, if u got any left. Youre always on here moaning.
you and me both!
Yeah, but they couldn't sit down all day to record a 24 hour podcast just because you want it to
😂😂😂😮😂😂😂
@@Georgemeister777relax.
Full and unedited episodes please! (best podcast ever ) 👹👹👹
Consequences, I bought it when it came out and I still listen to it and really enjoy it. A masterpiece!!
Just listened to Tales..from Yes (remixed by Steven).
FINALLY the album clicked for me. Thank you very much for you work there ❤
Great to hear the love for Oldfield and Incantations.
Almost cried the first time I heard it - because it's so beautiful and I could not believe I have slept on this album for at least 25 years.
Absolutely! 👍
Sharing the love for 'Consequences' here. Unsurpassed genius from Lol, Kev and Peter.
Glad to see the albums by Nico, Donovan, and Tangerine Dream on your list! All favorites!
Yeah, but Wilson says one sentence about "Zeit" and like two about "Marble Index", despite one being his 'favorite of all time' and the other not 'following any of the rules'. Pretty middling content for two such remarkable albums.
I picked up Consequences a number of years ago in decent shape on vinyl. I really enjoyed it.
PARADE remains my favourite Prince album. So much from Wendy & Lisa on there. It is such a European album full of lavishness. And "Sometimes It Snows In April" remains my favourite ever Prince masterpiece x
'Movement' and the first few singles/EPs (Ceremony, In a Lonely Place, Procession, Everything's Gone Green, Cries and Whispers, Mesh) are my favourite period of New Order, and it's great to see early Durutti Column and that Virginia Astley album get attention. BTW I love 'Common One', and the album would likely appeal to those who like late '70s ECM releases...
I bought Consequences on week of release and absolutely loved it. I was in school at the time and I lent it to my French teacher and he thought it was awful
Thank you for introducing me to Lewis! Love that album now…
I love Incantations. I was listening to it just recently. My god when Oldfield was good he was very, very good. Apparently its one of Trevor Horn's favourite albums. I get why everyone focuses in on Tubular Bells but Ommadawn and Incantations are worth so much more attention in my opinion.
even Return to Ommadawn..but also Discovery, Islands, Music of the SPheres, Hergest Ridge and what not? well personally I dont like Man on the Rocks very much.
@@paleasabluedot4043 Yeah Hergest Ridge is another classic of course. There's plenty of great music in Oldfield's post 70's albums but the consistency and quality of his output became much more erratic over the subsequent years. You've got to hand it to him though, he's never been one to just sit around thats for sure.
Return to Ommadawn always sounded to me like a fairly promising demo for a much better album produced by someone like Tom Newman.
Guys don't overlook the genius of Amorak. Fantastic album.
I'd add Amarok to the list as well.
@@LittleRedRobin-84 and u even spelt it correctly.🤦👍
Thanks so much guys for introducing me to Lewis, an amazing discovery. And what an incredible story he had...
I bought Consequences the day it came out. £11.99 it cost. Worth every bloody penny. It's just wonderful/ I feel sorry for those who don't get it. A work of genius. I wish Godley and Creme would stop listening to the critics and get behind it. Lost of the critics loved it at the time. The record company had no idea what they had and no idea how to market it. Punk, which I love didn't help it as it arrived not long before it's release. The Environmental message is very valid right now. Go get a copy and really listen.
associates-sulk- the most brilliant, mad pop record ever- even the instrumentals are fabulous-still love it all these years later-
Learned such a lot from this, thank you!
My goodness, I laughed out very loudly!
Wow don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone mention that Virginia Astley album since I bought it at the time.Also I remember “Consequences” was featured heavily on Teatime BBCTV shows when it came out because of the “gizmo”.
Great great list! 💙🍄💙
Thanks guys. Listening to Big Fun, not sure how i missed this one. It's in my wheelhouse.
Great Delius reference!!
So pleased to see the John G Perry record noted. I've had it since it came out - it's lovely. And yes: Canterbiry meets PCO. Also great to see the Astley record. Her former bandmates Nicky Holland and Kate St John have also produced very listenable work.
A few of my favourite double albums mentioned herein!
Listening to Lewis Baloue and John G Perry, love them both so much, thank you!!
I love Consequences.
yayyyyyyy, Olias! It always blows me away that he, the supposed non musician of the band, plays everything, right? I mean, talk about being, as you guys say, gobsmacked!
Coming out of the gate with 'Movement' - wow. I love that album and the first few singles from New Order more than everything that came after. What a great selection, and I quite agree: why wouldn't anyone love 'Common One'?
Some interesting items for me. I love Mike Oldfield, and Incantations is still one of my favorites, close behind Ommadawn (the one that made me a fan). Also a huge Yes fan since the seventies (old man), not so much what they have been in the past 20 years... but I digress. I'm very familar with the "solo albums hiatus", and I have to say that Olias of Sunhillow, to this very day, is still one of my favorite albums of all time. Yes, I completely understand that people can think of it as full blown fairytale silliness, but in a way, that's one of the great things about it, the way Anderson just went off and kind of created this whole world of its own. It's a fucking masterpiece. My favorite of the Yes 1976 solo albums, closely followed by Fish Out Of Water from Squire (and then "I" from Patrick Moraz, that complete lunatic genius... all it was missing was Jean Luc Ponty and Allan Holdsworth and it would have been fully complete).
Way back when "Consequences" was new, a friend and roommate at the time (a big 10cc fan) went and bought the triple album epic. (The Hole....). In the place we shared, we each had our bedrooms at opposite ends of the place, with the living room and stereo system in between. Now and then, one of us would put on the album before we headed off to our rooms to bed. As the thing played, each of us could hear the other off in the distance laying in bed laughing our asses off.
It certainly was a promo for "the Gizmo", actually made and sold as "the Gizmotron". Back around 1978, a local music store actually had, oddly, one of the bass version (not the guitar version, I have no idea why), so I actually encountered one in the flesh! It was actually kind of rubbish. And let's face it, anybody who wanted to try to do kind of what it did ended up going and buying an e-bow.
johneagan.bandcamp.com/
Yup, Tales, way up there (though, for me, Going for the One is at the top)
👍
Yanks became Powercuts but same owners I think and same cheap us imports and I had some deep cuts from there. Most obscure but absolute classics are the 3 'Eternal Wind' albums on 'Flying Fish' records, like world fusion on some deep ayawaska trip in the desert, I urge anyone to check out those records. Loving these live highlights from the live show and to add Secret Life of Plants was one of the first albums of Stevie I heard and I adored it for 'Race Babbling' alone. :)
I just bought the 5 CD version of Consequences because of this. I wonder which Side I'll fall on.
Poor you! 😅
Secret Life of Plants was followed by Hotter Than July, which is choc full of bangers. Questlove's dad take note.
About Incantantions and minimalist prog: i think the influence of Minimalism in Mike Oldfield came from Kevin Ayers. He played with Kevin Ayers, who played in Soft Machine and They had a minimalist side. Even Daevid Allen, who later formed Gong, was friend of Terry Riley. So i think Mike Oldfield took that influence from that side of Canterbury side avoiding the most jazzy part. About the music result: it sounded like a mix of Steve Reich(mallet instruments...actually Gong influence and Moerlen brothers... Who played with Oldfield), Philip Glass( the keyboards), John Adams( some orchestra) and maybe the Steve Howe/Robert Fripp/Steve Hackett fuzz long line guitar solos( though i think Oldfield used a treble booster instead).
awwwww, nice to see Ben Watt get some attention! I do love his voice, we don't hear it enough.
Excellent run through. Is DC underrated? See a lot of love for it on Twitter. The first CD I ever bought was a box set of the first 4 DC albums.
PS. Will noone mention Otto Spooky? Hopefully one for a future podcast.
Yanks in Manchester... changed its name to Power Cuts in the late 80s. Fantastic! All US and Canadian imports. Apparently the owners would go to the States and buy huge piles of records for next to nothing.....hence the 50p or £1 albums. We too would come back with armfuls of XTC on Geffen and Camel albums on Passport Records!
I feel the same, I can't understand why Steven doesn't like Foxtrot 😂
Just went and got Incantations...for some crazy reason, I don't have that one.
and now, went and got the Donovan....
Just what I needed today. A bit of TBo.
Around 11:13- ". . albums that don't obey rules sometimes exist outside of time, they exist outside of genres, they exist outside of the Zeitgeist. . . " .S.W.
Did you guys get Oldfield's Airborne? I love that album, but lost my cassette of it, and it is impossible to find.
love 10cc, but the lightbulb has yet to go on witth Godley & Creme.
I loved Van's Common One. I'm just getting into 10cc, their debut being a perfect blend of Beach Boys and Zappa, love it. But if Consequences is the mad songwriting half's output, i'm probably gonna hate it.
UPDATE: Yep, i hate it.
I really miss Mike Oldfield.
Try Rob Reed' Sanctuary albums and more(with Les Penning)
Big points for Donovan, which is brill. And Third is my personal favourite.
'Passport - Infinity Machine' possibly the most ridiculous and most well played jazz fusion album ever made and another Yanks/Powercuts find!
Dear Chaps and Chappettes
Can I just mention an interesting idea that I heard. I really love Henry Cow - Concerts (1976). I read a quote that basically said that music like this does not exist anymore because people like this do not exist anymore.
I am not too sure that I completely agree with that, but I find it an interesting idea that as the culture changes, people change and maybe tastes change. Maybe?
You may try Henry Cow - Keeping Warm in Winter-Sweet Heart of Mine from the album "Concerts". For 8 minutes it is a difficult listen and then (for me) it bursts into pure magic.
Okay 2 pieces of (small) controversy.
I believe that if the truth exists, it is written on a piece of paper floating upside sown towards a drain. Here are two pieces of "gold" that I have NEVER had anyone tell me that they liked these pieces.
This Heat "The Fall of Saigon" (Peel session). Over the years my love for this track has almost reached the heights of This Heat "Health and Efficiency" and as you know Mozart and Beethoven combined could not have surpassed that.
Okay deep breath. The most forgotten piece of gold is Alternative TV / Good Missionaries "Scars on Sunday" On the Good Missionaries side, look for "The Good Missionary goes for a walk. It starts with Mark Perry shouting "Restaurants, vibing up the senile man." Honestly, I do not think that any of the performers are "musicians", but for me, this is that lightning in a jar. I bought it on cassette when Keith Dobson first released it and I have loved it ever since.
Keep up the good work
does anybody remember the dark comedy album they cited some episodes ago? i cant seem to find it!!!
Dear Chaps and Chappettes
I am 62years old so I feel that I no longer need to say sorry for too much.
Donovan - "Epistle To Derroll" from "A Gift from a Flower to a Garden" is something that I have loved for the last 30 odd years or so, from when I lived in Ireland. This is the first time that I have ever anybody speak about how good this album is. It is timeless.
Chaps, you are alright with me.
Keep up the good work
Not the deadnaming Wendy Carlos 😢
I was looking for this comment. It doesn’t matter what name it was released under, her name is Wendy Carlos
the L'Amour record by Lewis is far more Blue Nile than Bryan Ferry/Roxy. I even hear underpinnings of John Martyn style phrasing. a brilliant record. the second record by Lewis is more trashed Ferry/Roxy. the second record also has a very Twin Peaks feel as well. love the album years. always informative and well spoken.
oh holy shit, Here my Dear....incredible album!
Steven has shoes on!?
I have the Consequences vinyl box set AND on double cd. I fall into the 'love it' category!
how can one man be responsible for Secret Life Of Plants and also I Just Called.. and Happy Birthday
Laziness? Or loss of creative spark?
Elton John's 1976 BLUE MOVES is that one album in his catalogue that isn't necessarily easy accessible yet it is my favourite or 2nd favourite of Elton's. A flawed near-masterpiece? Thanks for the heads-up on A Certain Ratio's TO EACH album. Enjoying it. Thanks for these Podcasts: I have been introduced or re-introduced to lots of great records. You are responsible for my ever expanding vinyl collection and my need for new vinyl bins!!
❤
A guy named Lewis recorded and album titled L'Amour? Really? It wasn't a reference to the author Louis L'Amour?
Mic stands. Seriously. Prime Day is happening, like, right now; you could probably get something pretty reasonable for very little.
I'm glad I never saved up and wasted my pocket money on Consequences. I just bought the single which has the only 2 good tracks. When I heard the whole thing years later I thought it was awful.
Episode is way too short 😊
Yanks - interesting and true story. Every album cover had a notch cut out on the top corner. The reason for this was that all the records were unsold leftovers in The United States and they were used as ballast on ships. The notch was to identify them as ballast. Yanks bought these records in England and got what they could for them.
Not familiar with records being used as ballast, but records with those notches cut into the jackets were called “cut outs” and this was done to identify records that were remaindered items and could not be sent back or returned, and were meant to be sold at a discount.
They made the cuts as a visual, physical way to keep them from being sold at full price as new. These records were often found in “cut out bins” at retailers, where buyers would shop for discounted vinyl.
Perhaps someone used a bunch of old albums as ballast, but that’s not the reason such records were marked with a notch.
@@AnthonyFerguson01 You keep telling yourself that old bean.
Steven mate chill with the time management
Bossa NovaR
Low Estate Sixteen Horsepower...🤠
Although, I will say, I triiiiiied to like Consequences...admire it...but, don't listen to it with pleasure.
Tales is a giant mess. Jon's "join a new age cult" on top of Yes being about as dull and aimless as they ever "achieved". No
Oh god I love listening to Tales. Love it to bits . Yes yes YES❤