Dont worry, she will get a new story where her hospital is destroyed and she snaps and goes on a quest of vengeance following the path of the hunt as a physical DPS but now using a bow.
I will never forget the moment when I first had to fight Kafka. She was at 1 hp and she quickly one-shotted my team, except for Natasha, who survived because of her emergency self-heal. Natasha continued to tank Kafka's attacks and I had to heal most of the time, but I managed to squeeze in an auto-attack, which miraculously crit. She was my last woman standing and she delivered unexpectedly 😆
She's like a mother figure, she helped and watched you grow and now when you're going places you rarely see each other and you remembered all those times she helped you😊 love u Natasha❤
@@jo_valentinotJarilo? She was there with moi until Phantylia, and was both my first E6 and 80 level character, sadly as I got other Abundance like Lynx and Huo Huo, plus other sustain units like Fu Xuan I couldn't really use her without losing benefits.
Yeah, tbh, Natasha, as a unit, is just a good rounded unit, but when we keep getting better sustainers on limited banner, she starts to looks like a worst option. (But tbh, she is still a good healer, but she also has the same problem as Bailu: their *only* a healer, when u have a healer that can act as a side debuffer or dmger, or increase max health, the need for pure healing isn’t that needed, especially when you don’t have content that needs continuous, or high healing. She basically got Himeko-ed: wrong environment, wrong situations..)
for many, Natasha is the best healer they have because shes the only healer they have Edit: I got bailu as the guaranteed 5 star from the departure warp. Made the rest of the story a breeze
Only early on (Unless you pull a Bailu or Lynx early on). If you could clear any Pure Fiction 2. Lynx is free & They may eventually give Gallagher for free (later 2.x Prediction)
She was also outshined by Huohuo in the cleansing part. Before Huohuo, Natasha was the only character that could constantly cleanse, though takes a lot of skill points. But now, with Huohuo's passive cleanse, anyone who pulled for her is essentially immune to debuffs
@@shayaanm7122 yeah, but can they cleanse 6 debuffs consecutively? Luocha can do, but has to do his skill 4 times and his talent activating on a low-HP character 2 times
@@Hasan-Firas This sounds great on paper, but who's actually getting 6 debilitating debuffs? The most common debuffs are dots, which does help Huo Huo keep up with her more middling healing but isn't some amazing benefit. The real win for Huo Huo is how well she handles Kafka's dominate, one of the most annoying CCs in high level content. Kafka pushes their turn forward and then it's immediately cleansed by Huo Huo. Even Luocha is forced to skill to remove it because it's not tied to damage, and they've already wasted their turn attacking your team. The only real competition here is Fu Xuan with good timing on her skill to get debuff immunity.
Lynx also outclassed her as well. Since she cleanse debuff to all allies,she also increase max hp + continuous healing which help alor Her skill is similar to March but better since it only gives taunt to Preservation and destruction characters which synergies well with character like traiblazer fire,clara and especially Blade which increase his dps depends on his max hp
To show you how beneficial Natasha was (at least to my account) during the early days, when Hoyo released player stats during new year, Natasha was my most used unit despite me getting Luocha in 1.1 and replacing her in my overworld team and dropping her entirely in 1.3 when I got Fu Xuan. Stats say she was with me for 4972 battles and I'm thankful for every single one of those.
Yeah me too she is the one that stayed with me the longest and has been the corner stone in my team even with the advent of Lynx and Fu Xuan she is still great although I won't deny she definitely has been out shone by Lynx but I still love her and thankful for everything she has done
@@drilla3938 Event has already ended so I don't think there's anyway to see those stats again unless Hoyo does another event like this where it shows you player stats. My best bet is going to be on the first anniversary on April so look out for that.
Natasha is still my main healer and will still be my main healer forever more. I have her at E4 and I'm still wanting to get her to E6 to where she deals damage based on a % of her HP stat.
i think natasha covers the early-game healer niche very well to this day and i think its cool to have an early game healer. truly is a mother who saw you grow up and now just watches you from afar
They should make an relic kit like "When you heal an ally with Burst or Skill, have a chance of 70% of taking off 1 penality" to bring back dead characters like Bailu and Natasha now
What happened to Natasha is the same thing that happened to Yanqing, in my opinion. The difficulty curve in Star Rail isn't VERY pronounced, but there is a harsh line the game forces you through somewhere pretty early in the story, and it's the big AoE/big group divide. There comes a point in the game where you start fighting groups of enemies, fast enemies, and enemies that hit half of your team or more in a go--especially some of the bosses. Yanqing's damage is all right without his passive, but the requirements to not get hit in addition to taking a turn or two to build up, really cost him in the long term; it's similar with Natasha, who puts out big numbers but doesn't do much else. Most people were nowhere near being at the level of speed enough to need top tun their characters, and chasing for Relics hadn't started so no one had a guaranteed Speed setup they could use... or one they could spare for just their healer. So you have more numbers, but on a slower healer, who can only heal your entire team once per ult and needs good energy to do that. And one who offers nothing else--no real damage, no DoT, no debuff, no utility. I love Natasha, but Bailu already made her LOOK like a four star; factor in the amazing auto healing of Luocha, the team castling of Geppard, or the immutable area defense of Fu Xuan, and it's easy to see why she fell to the way side. And I think the main cause of that is just that she wasn't designed to address some of the most common enemy attacks and comps you meet.
To the healer that helped me in every situation, thank you❤. I right now have c6 Natasha yet I always use her in MOC (because I don’t have any healers rather than Lynx)
Pretty nice video dude! Keep it going! I would recommend turning up the volume (I had to turn up the system a lot of more Im used to) and some modulation! But I realize you're starting, and the video content seem pretty good alright!
HSR is gonna end up like genshin, back then, qiqi was considered a godly healer, now people get annoyed when they lose to her. And bailu would be the equivalent of that.
I haven't played HSR for a while, but the last time I played she was considered a good healer, I hope she still is at least? Or is she gonna get beaten by a new 4 star? ☠️
Funnily enough Natasha is the only healer I've e been using, not even Lynx. Was shocked to see my annual report and the most used unit in EVERY month was Natasha
Great video, just wanted to point out that at 8:56 you mentioned HoyoVerse *never* buffs old characters. This is only strictly true for Genshin. Honkai Impact 3rd had updates to old battlesuits (characters) called Augmentation or Augment Core upgrade, eg. Molotov Cherry --> Fervent Tempo. Just wanted to point out a minor inaccuracy since you used a generalized statement by saying HoyoVerse 👍
thank you! i’m a current hi3rd player and what you’re saying is true, I just notice that my audience is mostly consisting of genshin and star rail players which are the two hoyoverse games that don’t do direct buffs
yes, but the base character is still there, and is still shit. not to mention u have to farm for a while to fully unlock the core augment. so its not like the good old buff where devs directly alters existing characters skills
one of the reasons why Lynx also became the better 4 star Abundance unit was because all of her abilities scaled off of her HP, which meant that she could deal some damage with her basic attack during the turns when no one needs healing, compared to Natasha, whose basic attack scales off of her ATK for some reason compared to the rest of her kit that needs HP
natasha possibly could deal more at c6, but either way the damage is pretty negligable most of the time. lynx is used more purely for her cleanse abilities, and her full heal-over-time ability
You won't believe it, but whenever I see a physical weakness in MoC, my first idea is always "why not try using Natasha"? :) And then she dies all the time :( :( :(
I am glad so many people stand for Natasha. And you are right that on THAT account Natasha's traces are not fully levelled unlike on my personal account. The thing is that on my account, I do not need Natasha as I have mono quantum team, Lynx and Gepard, but on THAT account, I have no SilverWolf and do struggle with various kinds of content. Have fun playing y'all!
@@stribijev You not need SW to make the game easier. lol You just have to actually pay attention for the relic sets/stats, the trace levels, the LCs and the team building.
She was simply meant to help us in early game, that's her main objective of course you can use her on endgame in case you don't have another healer, but it will make things more difficult, i got Bronya on day 1 and a week later Bailu and it helped me so much, and shortly after Lynx so yeah it tanked my usage of Natasha to 0 but those early days she was awesome and i gotta thank Hoyo for that.
honestly natasha and some other characters would be saved and would be much better if lightcones werent restricted to certain paths. She could hold planetary rendevouz for clara or argenti and now boothill. Honestly, he more i play, the more i dont understand why lightcones are restricted, some lightcones will never see any use because of this. That preservation lightcone that heals at beginning of battle, would be cool for solo sustain welt or some other niche shit. That trend of unviersal market would be a cool allterntive to patience for kafka or slap it on a healer in a dot team and have fun. Make the world clamour is never going to be used, at least with some people with amazing needed burst, it would see some use. planetary would be a good option for healers of the same element as dps, memories would be good for break effect builds, u could use past and future and speedtune natasha or something to make her useful. And not just 4 stars but 5 stars too, jing yuans LC would be good on topaz and ratio, huohuo LC can b eused as psedo sustain, luocha LC can b eused by ruan mei or asta to give extra speed. Just so many interactions, all lost down the drain cause of absolutely no reason.. And can go on and on, star rail has done many things good, but they fucked up lightcones. First by removing them from the shop, back in beta when u could buy the gacha lightcones for 50k credits lol, and then by restricting them.
Natasha is the only healer I have right now, but she is a real life savior. I lost two of my units against Phantylia in the third phase in the storyline. Only Jing Yuan and Natasha were left and if I remember correctly, I had to keep Jing alive. There were too many close calls because of the bosses' attacks kept itching my HPs away as well as reduce my skill points. But thanks to Natasha's skills and talents, I manage to buy enough time to finish the boss.
She is still my second heal (Loucha always in first team with Blade). I can replace her with Gepard sometimes but if shields doesn't work in curently situation and my second team REALLY needs healing then Natasha shines like a sun!)
Awww, natasha❤. She helped me a lot throughout my first parts in the game. She was my most used unit until I got huohuo. But I still use her on my secondary team alongside blade. I think I have an E3 or 4 lynx but I can't build her right now 'cause I'm too busy with Ratio.
The fact that she carried my team alot of times during boss fights. Back then, I struggled a lot with Phantylia, resulting in me raging and almost breaking my mouse. But when I switched out my original team and changed Ratio to Natasha, the whole fight went smoothly. Fighting Sam was hard. His skill points thing was a pain in the ass, and the thing where you lose HP after using a skill was diabolically annoying. Nat was the last character standing, she was at 1 HP, but I kept going and finally won. She's like a mother to me.
Yeah she is definitely a training wheels kind of character, she's mostly there to just get you through the story but after you start obtaining some of the better sustainers, your gonna outgrow her very quickly. For me personally I think it was in 1.2 when I got gepard, never looked for her again after that point, then fu xuan came out and the rest is history
Natasha is still good due to her cleanse, mass heal and emergency heal. And considering how the new content make us like Herta and Himeko, I will expect that in near future there will be a content where old characters shine.
I still have my Natasha full equiped and time to time try to improve the stats on her build when farm for others (in case i get a good piece wich work for her). She has a special place on my heart and i refuse to abandon her just because there's better character.
I got Bailu on my very first 10-pull on the beginner banner, waaaaay before I got Natasha. So, I never really had a reason to build her and play with her. But I still think that she's great, for the sole reason that not everyone gets lucky and pulls a Bailu, a Gepard, or any busted limited 5* sustain. I remember being new to the game, not playing efficiently because I didn't entirely understand the mechanics, my own characters, and the enemies I was up against. There were times I was struggling because using March just wasn't enough anymore. Especially against some of the tougher mobs. It was right then that I got Bailu, and that was such a blessing. Having the ability to heal was simply incredible! Everything was easy from that point, I didn't really struggle, I rarely lost any characters. But as stated, not everyone gets so lucky. And if you're that person who's just as new and clueless as I was, but not nearly as lucky, then you're going to be SO relieved once you get your Natasha and finally gain the ability to heal. She's going to be an incredible character, because she can do something nobody else could in your team previously, something that you probably have wanted for a while at that point. Imo, that simple thing makes her a very valuable character. Not irreplaceable. But very, very valuable.
@@flatdefgod2960 That's not what i did talk about. I meant the kit of the dps characters are much more different from each other than harmony and sustain units's kits.
The truth is, if you want a good and better team, you need to get the limited 5 star characters, thats a fact. 5 stars will be better then 4 starts. The problem is if in the future, a new character comes up and they powercreep Luocha or Huohuo for example
Natasha is ok. She does what her free 4 star self is allowed to do but as you progress through the game and get Lynx and other substainns, you will realise that she has glaring weaknesses.
As far as Natasha was concerned, it was simply a lengthy waiting game for better healers and defensive units. You didn't use her out of preference but out of necessity to fill that defensive slot.
@@Sunrise20403there's alot of healer in genshin alr and barbara is not gonna be a good option anymore. natasha can still be a good healer but aside of being a healer , she can do nothing. unlike 5* chars who can dispell buff and debuff , give lifesteal field , auto heal + dispell , buff atk (yk what i meant) , lynx who heals + boost max hp + cleanse which is better....
"...contents will be harder and she may become obsolete altogether..." not only on natasha but on most characters in the game. in a meta-heavy gacha game like this one, irrelevancy is inevitable. As the content becomes harder and harder, some characters will eventually will not make the cut, and we can feel it on most characters now. That is why, I sometimes find it funny when i see someone claiming "any character can full clear moc" when it is not the case anymore. You will eventually stick to the meta if you want to clear content, especially end game ones.
For me I continue to really on Natasha because even though I have linx I enjoy Natasha's personality and story more I'll use her for as long as I can until she becomes completely obsolete I hope that doesn't happen
I was lucky (or unlucky bc i really wanted Welt) enough to get both Gepard and Bailu from beginner banner and my first 50/50 loss. And they carried me so hard in every aspect. But when it came to fighting Kafka in SU they were both useless bc they had no cleanse. Thats when i decided to give Natasha a shot and she delivered lol. Now I mainly use my e1 Fu Xuan and e4 Lynx to sustain in MoC (which I've max starred during the latest rotations), but I really want HuoHuo on her rerun for PF or maybe a certian imaginairy preservation....
I still use Natasha in my team, cause i don't have any other healer accept Lynx ( too lazy to build her) i don't pull other 5* healer cause i already love Natasha character
I've had bronya since my first 10 pull and i got bailu and even e1 gerpard a bit later on standard however i never abandoned natasha i use her on all my teams to this day and I e6'ed her. it's not even a simp thing i just find her enjoyable and easy to play. i'll probably still use her years from now just to spite everyone who doesnt use her lmaooo💀
Natasha kinda carried me until i got Lynx and hopefully soon Gallagher for 4 star healing option. like these two healers are just very strong, Lynx has a partywide heal and Cleanse, Galagher can help with break teams and stuff like that, i mean i was kinda expecting natasha to be powercrept i mean she and march are good as starter units(unlike genshin with amber.) but sooner or later their gonna get replaced by better sustain units.
I have all Abundance characters invested E0 Luocha and Huohuo, E2 Bailu and E6 Natasha and Lynx, and goes like this HuoHuo>Luocha--->Bailu>Lynx--->Natasha, some people will debate on Bailu being worse than the 4* but thats just because they dont play her right, Bailu doesnt have cleanse but she does have high multipliers, dmg reduction, and no need to use the skill to do any of that, put her on Multiplication+Wind Set+ER Rope and she will provide enough points even for DHIL while also healing more than both Natasha and Lynx combined.
Natasha CARRIED me in the early game (i played in 1.2.2), but sadly replaced her with Huohuo in 1.5.2. She's still in my MoC second team tho (and that team is why i cant touch the purple MoC, i died everytime)
She's still my best abundance, had her at e6 and fully build and I still favour her over my e4 Lynx. I can definitely see why Lynx is better than Natasha but I just like her character and design more, I'm still gonna use her as long as she's still capable to sustain my team.
Funny story Natasha was my soul healer up until Tinyuns's death when I pulled a huohuo I was actually upset because that would mean i have to level up an entirely new healer so i looked on RUclips to see whether it was worth leveling up my huohuo and after that now I only have one usable healer as my Natasha sits there at level 54 sad
Guys, I don't know about y'all; but using Huohuo/Luocha/Fu Xuan on DoT team is BLASPHEMOUS. Think about it, you have Kafka, Black Swan, and Ruan Mei on the team. Would you really use a midget/crybaby/some random dude on that team? Tell me what is left then. Exactly, Natasha.
Natasha was my crutch when I was starting out, when I got Luocha, I was still using her while I was building him. Now she doesn't get nearly as much spotlight as she did in past, but I'll never forget everything she did for me in (mostly) Belobog.
I have to say if you had an even remotely fast Seele and Bronya. Bailu felt useless you'd get so many turn with Seele that her healing buff would fall off. Luocha's heal being a Field effect is the only thing that prevent it from struggling like Bailu.
I have a story mode team for story and natasha will be my healer in that team for a long long time. Since story mode is quite easy, using anyone is good enough MC carry all the way
Until I get Huohuo and Fu Xuan, Natasha is going to have a permanent spot on my teams. I need sustainers, and she's my only one. Natasha's still gonna tag along, for a long while.
Jokes on you she’s the only healer I use. I have e2/3 lynx but I refuse to use her because I just don’t like her. Idc if she’s amazing I’m not using her she’s at 20/30 right now cuz ya know free wish. Don’t have any other healer. I’ll go for luocha in his rerun and Gallagher. I’ve been waiting for him since his original leaks.
My thoughts about nat is, she was serviceable but nothing stellar, she did had cleanse on skill but she needs sp to heal an okay'ish heal, her problem is that rly she only heals and her healing is very mid w out any type of buffs to compensate, so when you eventually get one five star sustain + lynx for example, that makes nat the worst option
To be honest, she's never been good for me. It's probably because I started playing a little later and my DPS I got Way too early was jing liu and even though she was good, especially compared to other dps's at that level she wasn't obliterating everything so my team was still taking damage from the enemy and Natasha just couldn't keep up with a mix of Jing Liu team damage and the enemies. She just couldn't keep up so the second to healer was on banner. I pulled them
Dont worry, she will get a new story where her hospital is destroyed and she snaps and goes on a quest of vengeance following the path of the hunt as a physical DPS but now using a bow.
Natasha Wick 😅
I see your a Honkai Impact player as well. 🤝
@@Tube4life679 🤝
one grenade launcher on each hand
Let. Him. COOK🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
I will never forget the moment when I first had to fight Kafka. She was at 1 hp and she quickly one-shotted my team, except for Natasha, who survived because of her emergency self-heal. Natasha continued to tank Kafka's attacks and I had to heal most of the time, but I managed to squeeze in an auto-attack, which miraculously crit. She was my last woman standing and she delivered unexpectedly 😆
"Legends never die"
That's a wholesome story, RIP Natasha 2023-2024.
thats amazing, but stress inducing to watch, but still amazinggg
Lmao same. No matter who I have in my party, Natasha is almost always the last one standing (my shield Stelle has survived longer thrice).
Same happened to me while fighting Sam in Penacony lol
She's like a mother figure, she helped and watched you grow and now when you're going places you rarely see each other and you remembered all those times she helped you😊 love u Natasha❤
This makes me sad
Carried our butt throughout the Jarilo quest fr.
She has fulfilled her purpose, now she can rest easy.
Yes she can now rest after carrying the entire team
@@jo_valentinotJarilo? She was there with moi until Phantylia, and was both my first E6 and 80 level character, sadly as I got other Abundance like Lynx and Huo Huo, plus other sustain units like Fu Xuan I couldn't really use her without losing benefits.
i think all new hsr players will be carried by this woman til the end of the game's lifespan. if her job is to be a temporary crutch, she's fantastic.
Yeah, tbh, Natasha, as a unit, is just a good rounded unit, but when we keep getting better sustainers on limited banner, she starts to looks like a worst option. (But tbh, she is still a good healer, but she also has the same problem as Bailu: their *only* a healer, when u have a healer that can act as a side debuffer or dmger, or increase max health, the need for pure healing isn’t that needed, especially when you don’t have content that needs continuous, or high healing. She basically got Himeko-ed: wrong environment, wrong situations..)
when she said the ben franklin quote: "those who trade freedom with security end up with neither," she entered the god-tier waifu territory for me
Problem is shes given really late lol. You wont have her even at Svarog fight
she carried my team all the way up until I pulled Luocha so she holds a special place in my heart
@@Doflaminguardno she’s not… you can definitely get her before the svarog boss fight 😭
for many, Natasha is the best healer they have because shes the only healer they have
Edit: I got bailu as the guaranteed 5 star from the departure warp. Made the rest of the story a breeze
Only early on (Unless you pull a Bailu or Lynx early on). If you could clear any Pure Fiction 2. Lynx is free & They may eventually give Gallagher for free (later 2.x Prediction)
This was true for me until i got Huohuo. Lynx, Bailu and Loucha avoided me like the plague.
The free Lynx made her useless even to no pulling accounts. Lynx heal and cleanse is just superior
She's my second team healer
yep… she’s my only healer because i’m too weak to clear pure fiction
She was also outshined by Huohuo in the cleansing part. Before Huohuo, Natasha was the only character that could constantly cleanse, though takes a lot of skill points. But now, with Huohuo's passive cleanse, anyone who pulled for her is essentially immune to debuffs
luochas skill had a cleanse and its there on his auto skill as well
march has a cleanse too in her skill
@@shayaanm7122 yeah, but can they cleanse 6 debuffs consecutively? Luocha can do, but has to do his skill 4 times and his talent activating on a low-HP character 2 times
@@Hasan-Firas This sounds great on paper, but who's actually getting 6 debilitating debuffs? The most common debuffs are dots, which does help Huo Huo keep up with her more middling healing but isn't some amazing benefit. The real win for Huo Huo is how well she handles Kafka's dominate, one of the most annoying CCs in high level content. Kafka pushes their turn forward and then it's immediately cleansed by Huo Huo. Even Luocha is forced to skill to remove it because it's not tied to damage, and they've already wasted their turn attacking your team. The only real competition here is Fu Xuan with good timing on her skill to get debuff immunity.
March can also cleanse with her skill if you have unlocked her trace for it, but she ain't no healer, unless you have her E6.
Lynx also outclassed her as well. Since she cleanse debuff to all allies,she also increase max hp + continuous healing which help alor
Her skill is similar to March but better since it only gives taunt to Preservation and destruction characters which synergies well with character like traiblazer fire,clara and especially Blade which increase his dps depends on his max hp
best mommy deserves better but I'll always love her for carrying through the early and midgame ❤
To show you how beneficial Natasha was (at least to my account) during the early days, when Hoyo released player stats during new year, Natasha was my most used unit despite me getting Luocha in 1.1 and replacing her in my overworld team and dropping her entirely in 1.3 when I got Fu Xuan.
Stats say she was with me for 4972 battles and I'm thankful for every single one of those.
Sameeeee. I just didn't have Luocha but got fun xuan, but after that I still used her till lynx I think
I dropped her entirely after Fu (Got Lynx & Gepard) and I got Huohuo cuz her buffing capabilites were too good to pass up.
Yeah me too she is the one that stayed with me the longest and has been the corner stone in my team even with the advent of Lynx and Fu Xuan she is still great although I won't deny she definitely has been out shone by Lynx but I still love her and thankful for everything she has done
How can i see those stats for myself?
@@drilla3938 Event has already ended so I don't think there's anyway to see those stats again unless Hoyo does another event like this where it shows you player stats. My best bet is going to be on the first anniversary on April so look out for that.
I used to scream NATASSSSHA everytime i needed to heal and ill never forget my rage and love for her ❤
She’s still my main healer due to me not switching off her since she’s still technically my best healer. . .
Same. I have Lynx but Lynx is too baby atm
Natasha is still my main healer and will still be my main healer forever more. I have her at E4 and I'm still wanting to get her to E6 to where she deals damage based on a % of her HP stat.
i think natasha covers the early-game healer niche very well to this day and i think its cool to have an early game healer. truly is a mother who saw you grow up and now just watches you from afar
She became Shatana (lord trashcan) 😂
They should make an relic kit like "When you heal an ally with Burst or Skill, have a chance of 70% of taking off 1 penality" to bring back dead characters like Bailu and Natasha now
This set would be sooooo good on Bailu
What happened to Natasha is the same thing that happened to Yanqing, in my opinion. The difficulty curve in Star Rail isn't VERY pronounced, but there is a harsh line the game forces you through somewhere pretty early in the story, and it's the big AoE/big group divide. There comes a point in the game where you start fighting groups of enemies, fast enemies, and enemies that hit half of your team or more in a go--especially some of the bosses. Yanqing's damage is all right without his passive, but the requirements to not get hit in addition to taking a turn or two to build up, really cost him in the long term; it's similar with Natasha, who puts out big numbers but doesn't do much else.
Most people were nowhere near being at the level of speed enough to need top tun their characters, and chasing for Relics hadn't started so no one had a guaranteed Speed setup they could use... or one they could spare for just their healer. So you have more numbers, but on a slower healer, who can only heal your entire team once per ult and needs good energy to do that. And one who offers nothing else--no real damage, no DoT, no debuff, no utility. I love Natasha, but Bailu already made her LOOK like a four star; factor in the amazing auto healing of Luocha, the team castling of Geppard, or the immutable area defense of Fu Xuan, and it's easy to see why she fell to the way side. And I think the main cause of that is just that she wasn't designed to address some of the most common enemy attacks and comps you meet.
Unlike Yanging, Natasha doesnt have to rely on RNG to do her job, oh and a single tap doesnt hinder her performance
don't forget lynx? she was pretty much natasha's final nail in the coffin
Also Lynx atks are based on her max hp while natasha only does a lil of hp damage with her e6
“What happened with Natasha?”
There’s actually healers now
Lynx. Literally just Lynx.
To the healer that helped me in every situation, thank you❤. I right now have c6 Natasha yet I always use her in MOC (because I don’t have any healers rather than Lynx)
Pretty nice video dude! Keep it going! I would recommend turning up the volume (I had to turn up the system a lot of more Im used to) and some modulation! But I realize you're starting, and the video content seem pretty good alright!
thank you so much, I’ll keep this in mind :)
correction, lynx doesnt remove ALL debuffs, just one. still insanely good
Natasha suffers from "she was IMMEDIATELY powercrept at launch" thanks to Bailu.
And then Luocha's launch made it even worse.
HSR is gonna end up like genshin, back then, qiqi was considered a godly healer, now people get annoyed when they lose to her. And bailu would be the equivalent of that.
I haven't played HSR for a while, but the last time I played she was considered a good healer, I hope she still is at least? Or is she gonna get beaten by a new 4 star? ☠️
Even better-another free 4 star, Lynx
Funnily enough Natasha is the only healer I've e been using, not even Lynx. Was shocked to see my annual report and the most used unit in EVERY month was Natasha
Great video, just wanted to point out that at 8:56 you mentioned HoyoVerse *never* buffs old characters. This is only strictly true for Genshin.
Honkai Impact 3rd had updates to old battlesuits (characters) called Augmentation or Augment Core upgrade, eg. Molotov Cherry --> Fervent Tempo.
Just wanted to point out a minor inaccuracy since you used a generalized statement by saying HoyoVerse 👍
thank you! i’m a current hi3rd player and what you’re saying is true, I just notice that my audience is mostly consisting of genshin and star rail players which are the two hoyoverse games that don’t do direct buffs
yes, but the base character is still there, and is still shit. not to mention u have to farm for a while to fully unlock the core augment. so its not like the good old buff where devs directly alters existing characters skills
one of the reasons why Lynx also became the better 4 star Abundance unit was because all of her abilities scaled off of her HP, which meant that she could deal some damage with her basic attack during the turns when no one needs healing, compared to Natasha, whose basic attack scales off of her ATK for some reason compared to the rest of her kit that needs HP
natasha possibly could deal more at c6, but either way the damage is pretty negligable most of the time. lynx is used more purely for her cleanse abilities, and her full heal-over-time ability
You won't believe it, but whenever I see a physical weakness in MoC, my first idea is always "why not try using Natasha"? :) And then she dies all the time :( :( :(
Thats on you. I clear moc with natasha all the time. The other healers are better options for smoother experience but natasha can pull it off as well.
Maybe you should build her for 4K HP and she won't die then.
Could be because: 1.) low level 2.) low talents 3.) bad artifacts
I am glad so many people stand for Natasha. And you are right that on THAT account Natasha's traces are not fully levelled unlike on my personal account. The thing is that on my account, I do not need Natasha as I have mono quantum team, Lynx and Gepard, but on THAT account, I have no SilverWolf and do struggle with various kinds of content. Have fun playing y'all!
@@stribijev You not need SW to make the game easier. lol
You just have to actually pay attention for the relic sets/stats, the trace levels, the LCs and the team building.
She was simply meant to help us in early game, that's her main objective of course you can use her on endgame in case you don't have another healer, but it will make things more difficult, i got Bronya on day 1 and a week later Bailu and it helped me so much, and shortly after Lynx so yeah it tanked my usage of Natasha to 0 but those early days she was awesome and i gotta thank Hoyo for that.
honestly natasha and some other characters would be saved and would be much better if lightcones werent restricted to certain paths. She could hold planetary rendevouz for clara or argenti and now boothill.
Honestly, he more i play, the more i dont understand why lightcones are restricted, some lightcones will never see any use because of this. That preservation lightcone that heals at beginning of battle, would be cool for solo sustain welt or some other niche shit. That trend of unviersal market would be a cool allterntive to patience for kafka or slap it on a healer in a dot team and have fun. Make the world clamour is never going to be used, at least with some people with amazing needed burst, it would see some use. planetary would be a good option for healers of the same element as dps, memories would be good for break effect builds, u could use past and future and speedtune natasha or something to make her useful.
And not just 4 stars but 5 stars too, jing yuans LC would be good on topaz and ratio, huohuo LC can b eused as psedo sustain, luocha LC can b eused by ruan mei or asta to give extra speed. Just so many interactions, all lost down the drain cause of absolutely no reason.. And can go on and on, star rail has done many things good, but they fucked up lightcones. First by removing them from the shop, back in beta when u could buy the gacha lightcones for 50k credits lol, and then by restricting them.
Natasha can hold Penacony when on a team with a Physical DPS like Argenti or Boothill so that's something
Natasha is the only healer I have right now, but she is a real life savior.
I lost two of my units against Phantylia in the third phase in the storyline. Only Jing Yuan and Natasha were left and if I remember correctly, I had to keep Jing alive.
There were too many close calls because of the bosses' attacks kept itching my HPs away as well as reduce my skill points. But thanks to Natasha's skills and talents, I manage to buy enough time to finish the boss.
She is still my second heal (Loucha always in first team with Blade). I can replace her with Gepard sometimes but if shields doesn't work in curently situation and my second team REALLY needs healing then Natasha shines like a sun!)
Awww, natasha❤. She helped me a lot throughout my first parts in the game. She was my most used unit until I got huohuo. But I still use her on my secondary team alongside blade. I think I have an E3 or 4 lynx but I can't build her right now 'cause I'm too busy with Ratio.
Playing since launch. Natasha is my main Healer. My only other Healer is lynx. If I had luocha or huohuo my main Healer would change...
The fact that she carried my team alot of times during boss fights.
Back then, I struggled a lot with Phantylia, resulting in me raging and almost breaking my mouse. But when I switched out my original team and changed Ratio to Natasha, the whole fight went smoothly.
Fighting Sam was hard. His skill points thing was a pain in the ass, and the thing where you lose HP after using a skill was diabolically annoying. Nat was the last character standing, she was at 1 HP, but I kept going and finally won.
She's like a mother to me.
Yeah she is definitely a training wheels kind of character, she's mostly there to just get you through the story but after you start obtaining some of the better sustainers, your gonna outgrow her very quickly. For me personally I think it was in 1.2 when I got gepard, never looked for her again after that point, then fu xuan came out and the rest is history
Natasha is still good due to her cleanse, mass heal and emergency heal.
And considering how the new content make us like Herta and Himeko, I will expect that in near future there will be a content where old characters shine.
She is the barbara of HSR
powercreep? yeah. but natasha will always be an important starter sustain character
I still have my Natasha full equiped and time to time try to improve the stats on her build when farm for others (in case i get a good piece wich work for her). She has a special place on my heart and i refuse to abandon her just because there's better character.
I got Bailu on my very first 10-pull on the beginner banner, waaaaay before I got Natasha. So, I never really had a reason to build her and play with her. But I still think that she's great, for the sole reason that not everyone gets lucky and pulls a Bailu, a Gepard, or any busted limited 5* sustain.
I remember being new to the game, not playing efficiently because I didn't entirely understand the mechanics, my own characters, and the enemies I was up against. There were times I was struggling because using March just wasn't enough anymore. Especially against some of the tougher mobs.
It was right then that I got Bailu, and that was such a blessing. Having the ability to heal was simply incredible! Everything was easy from that point, I didn't really struggle, I rarely lost any characters.
But as stated, not everyone gets so lucky. And if you're that person who's just as new and clueless as I was, but not nearly as lucky, then you're going to be SO relieved once you get your Natasha and finally gain the ability to heal. She's going to be an incredible character, because she can do something nobody else could in your team previously, something that you probably have wanted for a while at that point.
Imo, that simple thing makes her a very valuable character. Not irreplaceable. But very, very valuable.
I recently switched her out because I got one of my favorites, Gallagher. I’ll never forget how she carried my team until Trailblaze lvl 55
stand proud, natasha
you raised every single new players
and even stayed with me even after beating sunday for a while
you can retire now
She carried my team so well! Even up to now I use her now 💅
Quick anwser:Got powercreeped
Crazy how in HSR sustainers and buffers are the ones that actually get massive powercreeps
Yeah as okcode said since 1.2 about luocha lol
Support and sustain have massive powercreep than DPS
@@flatdefgod2960 Because for DPS all the characters has different values, while for suppor and sustain it's a much tighter competiton.
@@tovarishchfeixiao yeah erudition got some love with new pure fiction
At least old DPS is still viable at simulated universe with God tier blessings
@@flatdefgod2960 That's not what i did talk about.
I meant the kit of the dps characters are much more different from each other than harmony and sustain units's kits.
The truth is, if you want a good and better team, you need to get the limited 5 star characters, thats a fact. 5 stars will be better then 4 starts. The problem is if in the future, a new character comes up and they powercreep Luocha or Huohuo for example
Until I got Huohuo...Natasha was my almost immortal solo doctor.
Why is Samito's channel in the background lmao
Natasha is ok. She does what her free 4 star self is allowed to do but as you progress through the game and get Lynx and other substainns, you will realise that she has glaring weaknesses.
Poor Nat... So beautiful
As far as Natasha was concerned, it was simply a lengthy waiting game for better healers and defensive units. You didn't use her out of preference but out of necessity to fill that defensive slot.
Barbara all over again
Barbara is way more better except her voice
@@otakisenpai8377 Then just use different dub language. 😆
Barbara still useable because she hydro and genshin have elemental reaction,Meanwhile Natasha...
@@Sunrise20403there's alot of healer in genshin alr and barbara is not gonna be a good option anymore. natasha can still be a good healer but aside of being a healer , she can do nothing. unlike 5* chars who can dispell buff and debuff , give lifesteal field , auto heal + dispell , buff atk (yk what i meant) , lynx who heals + boost max hp + cleanse which is better....
@@kutakachicky Actually.... Natasha is able to cleansewith her skill (if you have that trace activated).
"...contents will be harder and she may become obsolete altogether..."
not only on natasha but on most characters in the game.
in a meta-heavy gacha game like this one, irrelevancy is inevitable. As the content becomes harder and harder, some characters will eventually will not make the cut, and we can feel it on most characters now.
That is why, I sometimes find it funny when i see someone claiming "any character can full clear moc" when it is not the case anymore.
You will eventually stick to the meta if you want to clear content, especially end game ones.
Eh that is true since you can still do moc with old meta it just not effective
Nah maybe four stars but some characters will never fade off
For me I continue to really on Natasha because even though I have linx I enjoy Natasha's personality and story more I'll use her for as long as I can until she becomes completely obsolete I hope that doesn't happen
I was lucky (or unlucky bc i really wanted Welt) enough to get both Gepard and Bailu from beginner banner and my first 50/50 loss. And they carried me so hard in every aspect. But when it came to fighting Kafka in SU they were both useless bc they had no cleanse. Thats when i decided to give Natasha a shot and she delivered lol.
Now I mainly use my e1 Fu Xuan and e4 Lynx to sustain in MoC (which I've max starred during the latest rotations), but I really want HuoHuo on her rerun for PF or maybe a certian imaginairy preservation....
And there're players that don't belive there's powercreep
I still use Natasha in my team, cause i don't have any other healer accept Lynx ( too lazy to build her) i don't pull other 5* healer cause i already love Natasha character
I've had bronya since my first 10 pull and i got bailu and even e1 gerpard a bit later on standard however i never abandoned natasha i use her on all my teams to this day and I e6'ed her. it's not even a simp thing i just find her enjoyable and easy to play. i'll probably still use her years from now just to spite everyone who doesnt use her lmaooo💀
Natasha kinda carried me until i got Lynx and hopefully soon Gallagher for 4 star healing option. like these two healers are just very strong, Lynx has a partywide heal and Cleanse, Galagher can help with break teams and stuff like that, i mean i was kinda expecting natasha to be powercrept i mean she and march are good as starter units(unlike genshin with amber.) but sooner or later their gonna get replaced by better sustain units.
carried us all through early game
I have all Abundance characters invested E0 Luocha and Huohuo, E2 Bailu and E6 Natasha and Lynx, and goes like this HuoHuo>Luocha--->Bailu>Lynx--->Natasha, some people will debate on Bailu being worse than the 4* but thats just because they dont play her right, Bailu doesnt have cleanse but she does have high multipliers, dmg reduction, and no need to use the skill to do any of that, put her on Multiplication+Wind Set+ER Rope and she will provide enough points even for DHIL while also healing more than both Natasha and Lynx combined.
Natasha CARRIED me in the early game (i played in 1.2.2), but sadly replaced her with Huohuo in 1.5.2. She's still in my MoC second team tho (and that team is why i cant touch the purple MoC, i died everytime)
love how bailu got the qiqi treatment in tier lists
New players that join at 2.0 will only have Natasha at the moment
"what happened with natasha" why she's never left my team and keeps everyone alive I can't thank her enough
although my natasha is retired she still carried my team as a sustain in all through out the story of jarilo vi
She's still my best abundance, had her at e6 and fully build and I still favour her over my e4 Lynx. I can definitely see why Lynx is better than Natasha but I just like her character and design more, I'm still gonna use her as long as she's still capable to sustain my team.
My 10/10/10 Natasha is still the only healer I have built on my account.
Yes I also have Lynx and Bailu XD
I still use her because of her direct Debuff remover on her skill. Although, Lynx is good but waiting for her Ultimate feels like centuries
Which is why u need Er rope on lynx
@@yukiowo_009 Already have it, still, I prefer to use Natasha
I’ve only been playing for 2 weeks now, so honestly, Nat has been carrying me through this whole ordeal, especially with the fucking Penacony bosses
you forgot to include that Lynx can also give a minor buff for her Skill Target at E4
She is my main because her VA is the same as Rosaria who is my main in genshin
So what your saying is that I should build my Lynx and replace my Natasha? (I'm a returning player pls give advice if you can)
5:03 the 5 hp clutch look cool
Funny story Natasha was my soul healer up until Tinyuns's death when I pulled a huohuo I was actually upset because that would mean i have to level up an entirely new healer so i looked on RUclips to see whether it was worth leveling up my huohuo and after that now I only have one usable healer as my Natasha sits there at level 54 sad
Guys, I don't know about y'all; but using Huohuo/Luocha/Fu Xuan on DoT team is BLASPHEMOUS. Think about it, you have Kafka, Black Swan, and Ruan Mei on the team. Would you really use a midget/crybaby/some random dude on that team? Tell me what is left then. Exactly, Natasha.
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Full mommy team I guess?
I dont have any healers except Natasha. big W
Natasha was my crutch when I was starting out, when I got Luocha, I was still using her while I was building him. Now she doesn't get nearly as much spotlight as she did in past, but I'll never forget everything she did for me in (mostly) Belobog.
I'm gepard guy, never use her even back at 1.0. then now i have luocha and Lynx, even huohuo
I have to say if you had an even remotely fast Seele and Bronya. Bailu felt useless you'd get so many turn with Seele that her healing buff would fall off. Luocha's heal being a Field effect is the only thing that prevent it from struggling like Bailu.
She’s an underworld doctor what did you expect
I have a story mode team for story and natasha will be my healer in that team for a long long time. Since story mode is quite easy, using anyone is good enough MC carry all the way
Until I get Huohuo and Fu Xuan, Natasha is going to have a permanent spot on my teams. I need sustainers, and she's my only one. Natasha's still gonna tag along, for a long while.
There might be better options, but I've been using her for MoC and latest content, same with Yanqing
Still using her on MOC, swapping with lynx, they both my best healers so far.
Very simple thing in every game , strong stay weak out
Jokes on you Natasha is the only one I have...
Natasha is currently my only healer qwq
Me who didn't get other healers : well lynx on the other team you should occupy this one Nat.
Jokes on you she’s the only healer I use. I have e2/3 lynx but I refuse to use her because I just don’t like her. Idc if she’s amazing I’m not using her she’s at 20/30 right now cuz ya know free wish. Don’t have any other healer. I’ll go for luocha in his rerun and Gallagher. I’ve been waiting for him since his original leaks.
Tasha is still in my team since I haven’t bothered to build my FuXuan/HuoHuo.
Gotta love that background Hollow Bastion music
DC’s Leslie Thompkins but of Honkai Star Rail
I will still remember that i e6 natasha carrying
I still using her .. she just fine to me
My thoughts about nat is, she was serviceable but nothing stellar, she did had cleanse on skill but she needs sp to heal an okay'ish heal, her problem is that rly she only heals and her healing is very mid w out any type of buffs to compensate, so when you eventually get one five star sustain + lynx for example, that makes nat the worst option
To be honest, she's never been good for me. It's probably because I started playing a little later and my DPS I got Way too early was jing liu and even though she was good, especially compared to other dps's at that level she wasn't obliterating everything so my team was still taking damage from the enemy and Natasha just couldn't keep up with a mix of Jing Liu team damage and the enemies. She just couldn't keep up so the second to healer was on banner. I pulled them
Question do i upgrade her skills or no need i have her e6
Bro's boutta turn into the hunt with using a bow.
I have an amazing fully built natasha
im saveing for gllager
The later you go tho the more important cleanse is and bailu gets deleted. Although if u have a 5 star limited sustain lynx is better than both