I hope pinball makes a comeback because even at age 59 and a half I still can trounce anyone alive on almost any pinball machine. This is Tommy Tutalidge from rec.games.pinball and all the worldwide sightings of me throughout all the years and decades.
Jack Danger introduced me to the somewhat hard maneuver "Death Save". Not a legal move in Tournaments, but it's saved me a few balls. If the ball drains down the right, you can hold the left flipper up, and nudge the machine (More than a nudge really, it's kind of violent) to the right just as the ball hits the left wall right before it sinks into it's grave, and the force will bounce the ball back up to your right flipper (which remains down). In my experience, it will definitely trigger "Danger" or "Danger Danger" if you haven't already, but hey. If it's not a full blown tilt, and you saved the ball, then fuck it, Score them points while you can!
It's easier to use your hips and then slap the side of the flipper left or right as the ball bounces and gets a hip shot in the front middle of the machine. You have to time is right but if you practice a lot you can time it right. This way your fingers are already on both flippers when it drains.
At the 2:40 mark I usually if it matters on the machine fling the plunger with my left thumb instead of pulling it back a certain amount and letting it go. This way it takes the spring out of play. Pull the plunger back and fling the plunger with your thumb.
I never really was a huge fan of arcade pinball, more just old school type of video games, until i started playing it on my phone within the past couple of years. Zen had some promotions going or whatever so i said why the heck not? Than i realized after i started playing it that there's quite a few parallels to baseball and it's like the perfect game to play for someone retired from that sport (not that i ever made it to the majors or anything lol, but i did play in various leagues until i was around 30). And since i've started playing on my phone i've gotten pretty dang good at it, just learning on my own. But i must say, that slap save technique though, that's a new one for me so i will def be adding it to my repertoire. 👍
I play digital pinball too (Pinball FX3) but when you have access to a handful of actual pinball machines at your work, you tend to prefer the real thing.
Oh. My. Gosh. I could NOT get my head around that advanced "2 players whatchamathing" until you described it as Mario and Luigi. The light bulb just WENT OFF in my head!!! Incredible explanation!!! What a skill for teaching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've played on some tables where you can get away with lifting the entire table a bit and moving the whole things over when you're about to drain. Lol. That's pretty rare though. I never heard of his slap save before but now I've got to try it.
I play pinball on my tablet everyday and it's hard to find a place that has a lot of pinball machines , Santa Monica has a decent , and by decent I mean some of it doesn't work and a few flippers are screwed over from kids mashing them up , but ya I played the four machines on the pier arcade , wish I had a place to go to play normally with well kept machines
Flipper mechanics are NOT the same on every machine you play. Many games have different flipper feels and even different flippers entirely, and even the mechanics between how button presses influence the flippers are not the same. Some flippers can tap pass, some games have staging and some don't (some even have reverse staging?)
I've been learning off of him and I've most definitely improved my game to the point I'm getting on the boards. This is also being done in an area with a pinball league and very serious pinheads that play for hours on end. That's how I know I'm doing well!
Bro the most useful tip for me is gonna be the nudge!!!! That solves the issue of straight drops into the middle, and when it goes to the far left/right.
Depending on where the tilt mechanism is set you can also use the bottom of the palms of your hands just above your wrist instead of using your fingers on the flippers. This works especially well in multiball on certain machines like Apollo 13. I still have hand speed as fast as the late Brue Lee and when I save a ball my fingers only come off the flippers by about one-quarter of an inch. I guarantee no one alive can save virtually anything without tilting the machine no matter what the tilt level is set at. You'd have to see it in super slow motion to even see the movement.
Wait a second did Deadflip just teach us that the most important technique is The Deadflip?? I find some subtle irony in that. This man is amazing to watch...he can death save while drinking a cool beverage.
A 30 minute vid poppeed up that i clicked on. That vid had two parts. Parts one was so borong . Imagine this covered everything he did in an hour in less that 5 minutes nice
My favorite part of this video was the creepy dude in the background watching you for the first half. He's just over there with a smile on his face watchin you creepy as can be.
Hell yeah, but it's a great place to start! I was thinking I'd enjoy this even more if it was longer in length* and more sedately paced. Some nice camera work on the various techniques wouldn't go a miss either. *that's what she said.
I give good tips but I have to size up the player first. One most players miss is depending on the machine it makes more sense sometimes to move your head instead of your eyes to follow the ball. This is one just about everyone misses.
Ok I have found that hitting both flippers at exactly the same time gives my shots more accuracy and authority when I am going say for ramps on say an ACDC or a CFTBL. I'm not a super advanced player but I have won a few tournaments sometimes beating better players.
If you habituate your reflexes to something, it can work. The geometry works against you though. For multiballs this will become a much bigger liability, as making a shot with one will give the others a large geometric window to drain through. As long as you're not haphazardly and constantly hitting flippers it's not a big wear concern. Much worse is the excessively long holds which can burn out flippers in a hurry.
@@johnebejer You're welcome! I didn't want to make the last post toooo long, but there *is* one time simultaneous flipping is useful, although it's less brain exercise. A few games have modes that swap the left and right flipper buttons! Simpsons comes to mind as one. I forget the mode name but it's a great way to break your brain! In a good way.
@@DeezNutz-yg8io Mystery Spot! I suppose you can hit the flippers simultaneously to not break your brain, or actually flip both hands to be on opposite side flippers.
maybe film yourself actually doing the movie, or showing it on the board. having the camera pointed at your face while showing moves on the board makes little sense.
Sounds like the place probably doesn't have a tech to do simple maintenance. The machines are built to take a bit of a beating. Manufacturers know people will nudge and rock the machine around to keep a ball in play. Sometimes stuff 'breaks' overtime from this, so if they don't have someone that knows how to make fixes, of course they're gonna hate people nudging their machine(s). Most places (at least here in Los Angeles) that have more than a handful of machines, have someone that can do simple maintenance and fixes, so they don't mind you rockin the machine around a bit. I've talked with many owners and bars in LA about their machines and they've all been really cool about nudging. One guy even told me to "feel free to beat the hell out of it.. it will give me something to do later if it fails."
I'm in a different realm when I play a pinball machine. When a game is new I mostly know every bounce its already a forgone conclusion. One a machine that has been played for at least a week and gets worn in then you have to "know" every good shot and every bad shot. The problem even at the world class level is the players can't avoid making a bad shot even if they know what is a bad shot is because their coordination and reflexes doesn't make that humanly possible for them. This is what sets me apart from the rest I can tell anyone if I'm playing and I do make a bad shot I can say that was a bad shot whether or not that makes me lose the ball. I may only make what I know is a bad shot only a few times an hour.
Myth: Nudging is cheating and damaging Fact: While nudging can be considered cheating and can damage the software, it depends on the context. For example, there are some skills such as slap saves (for SDTM balls) combined with a nudge. You need to be careful with nudging so as to not Tilt, which is a fail-deadly mechanism. Most importantly, death saves and bang backs are illegal in tournaments, not to mention dangerous
love you guys, but i hear that world's best pinball players to offten. Don't forget that in the world exist countries like east europian ones, where we still play after 40 years doing nothing :).
@@antigen4Nudging is a skill that people use to do well. Nudging SHOULD be allowed. Watch tournament videos because when players nudge, the commentators say “nice save” not “cheater”.
Nudging is totally legitimate. It's half the skill of pinball. If you don't do it, you'll have no chance in any competitive setting. There's not a single player in the top thousand in the world who doesn't do it.
This is a COMMON misconception. There most certainly ARE skills to playing Pinball. I've watched people who have no clue what the hell they are even doing and lose all 3 balls in 30 seconds. Then I've watched the league players in my city play them... It's fucking night and day.
I played one ball without extra balls on the Wipeout pinball machine for over 13 hours. No death saves tilt set to medium at a 6 and a half degree arc angle back to front.
Dude, learn history, nudging was part of playing pinball even before pinball machines had flippers. I get it if you’re physically disabled and can’t do it, but otherwise nudging is definitely a skill you need to have while playing!
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That Wrestlemania pinball machine behind him is OFF THE HOOK !!!
It’s horrible to play
Nah the StarWars one.
I hope pinball makes a comeback because even at age 59 and a half I still can trounce anyone alive on almost any pinball machine. This is Tommy Tutalidge from rec.games.pinball and all the worldwide sightings of me throughout all the years and decades.
It made a comeback...no worries.
@@AzrialAlaria It seems to be doing well. I'll be 63 this October and still play pinball around 12 hours a day. My game is still intact.
@@parkerbohnn I'm 41, but same.
I got good game!
Come to Colorado! We have a slew of youngins that'll give you a run for your money!
Does the new generation also lay their cigarette in the corner next to flippers for a quick drag between balls? 😜
this guy rules, i watch his stream all the time
Sounds kinky, I hope you mind you own business in the men's room.
@@M1Anut bruh 💀💀💀
Jack Danger introduced me to the somewhat hard maneuver "Death Save". Not a legal move in Tournaments, but it's saved me a few balls. If the ball drains down the right, you can hold the left flipper up, and nudge the machine (More than a nudge really, it's kind of violent) to the right just as the ball hits the left wall right before it sinks into it's grave, and the force will bounce the ball back up to your right flipper (which remains down). In my experience, it will definitely trigger "Danger" or "Danger Danger" if you haven't already, but hey. If it's not a full blown tilt, and you saved the ball, then fuck it, Score them points while you can!
Yeah it's a pretty rough move. I agree!
I do the death save with my hips and jar the middle of the machine. Like a hip check in hockey.
It's easier to use your hips and then slap the side of the flipper left or right as the ball bounces and gets a hip shot in the front middle of the machine. You have to time is right but if you practice a lot you can time it right. This way your fingers are already on both flippers when it drains.
Be careful though because a full tilt will cause you to loose your bonus which is a big deal on some games like Indiana jones
This is great video. I love how you just get right to it and give great tips in a short amount of time. Thank you. :)
At the 2:40 mark I usually if it matters on the machine fling the plunger with my left thumb instead of pulling it back a certain amount and letting it go. This way it takes the spring out of play. Pull the plunger back and fling the plunger with your thumb.
I never really was a huge fan of arcade pinball, more just old school type of video games, until i started playing it on my phone within the past couple of years. Zen had some promotions going or whatever so i said why the heck not? Than i realized after i started playing it that there's quite a few parallels to baseball and it's like the perfect game to play for someone retired from that sport (not that i ever made it to the majors or anything lol, but i did play in various leagues until i was around 30). And since i've started playing on my phone i've gotten pretty dang good at it, just learning on my own. But i must say, that slap save technique though, that's a new one for me so i will def be adding it to my repertoire. 👍
I just tried some Zen tables on the Oculus Quest this Christmas.. Now that was fun!
I play digital pinball too (Pinball FX3) but when you have access to a handful of actual pinball machines at your work, you tend to prefer the real thing.
got love for classic Pinball machines
I'm so baked I thought this going to be a video on how to adjust the back legs! Haha
LMFAO XD haha same with me including the baked part 😂
Omg lol
Oh. My. Gosh. I could NOT get my head around that advanced "2 players whatchamathing" until you described it as Mario and Luigi. The light bulb just WENT OFF in my head!!! Incredible explanation!!! What a skill for teaching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Totes. M&L bro
I've played on some tables where you can get away with lifting the entire table a bit and moving the whole things over when you're about to drain. Lol. That's pretty rare though. I never heard of his slap save before but now I've got to try it.
The slap save works! P
Doing that will straight up get you kicked out of most places
@@AzrialAlaria Not where I was. Lol.
I play pinball on my tablet everyday and it's hard to find a place that has a lot of pinball machines , Santa Monica has a decent , and by decent I mean some of it doesn't work and a few flippers are screwed over from kids mashing them up , but ya I played the four machines on the pier arcade , wish I had a place to go to play normally with well kept machines
I'm play table of pinball
like I play on snooker table
or pool table and depend
on table setting tilt sensitive😁
How are you able to move that Aerosmith machine like it’s only 20 pounds? I play on one all the time and that thing is heavy as hell man.
Man I've been looking for an aerosmith machine on all the maps but there's barely any in UK and ofc the machine in this video is one 😭😭😭
Flipper mechanics are NOT the same on every machine you play. Many games have different flipper feels and even different flippers entirely, and even the mechanics between how button presses influence the flippers are not the same. Some flippers can tap pass, some games have staging and some don't (some even have reverse staging?)
Jack is really good. His flipper manipulation is top notch. Time for an advanced video for those of us looking for mor
I've been learning off of him and I've most definitely improved my game to the point I'm getting on the boards. This is also being done in an area with a pinball league and very serious pinheads that play for hours on end. That's how I know I'm doing well!
Bro the most useful tip for me is gonna be the nudge!!!! That solves the issue of straight drops into the middle, and when it goes to the far left/right.
Depending on where the tilt mechanism is set you can also use the bottom of the palms of your hands just above your wrist instead of using your fingers on the flippers. This works especially well in multiball on certain machines like Apollo 13. I still have hand speed as fast as the late Brue Lee and when I save a ball my fingers only come off the flippers by about one-quarter of an inch. I guarantee no one alive can save virtually anything without tilting the machine no matter what the tilt level is set at. You'd have to see it in super slow motion to even see the movement.
Wait a second did Deadflip just teach us that the most important technique is The Deadflip?? I find some subtle irony in that. This man is amazing to watch...he can death save while drinking a cool beverage.
Man i love this guy
Thanks for the tips. :)
Wait, so you're saying I can have more than one player when playing pinball? *** MIND BLOWN ***
I love Meat Beat Manifesto! I thought Jack would have an accent thought 🤔
Great help!
Danger: a Dutch word meaning prudence in financial matters
Thank you for these tips. Elevated my game immediately!
Lets have Mario Bros Pinball Machine!!! We got Sonic already lets go for Mario Bros Pinball Machine
It exists!
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A 30 minute vid poppeed up that i clicked on. That vid had two parts. Parts one was so borong . Imagine this covered everything he did in an hour in less that 5 minutes nice
This reminds me of a time I went to the arcade and my friend just slapped to buttons with no control
He looks similar to me... so what a handsome s.o.b.
They explained the dead flip, but showed the wrong video 😭
My favorite part of this video was the creepy dude in the background watching you for the first half. He's just over there with a smile on his face watchin you creepy as can be.
Shows the Kiss pinball maching in a video WITH a flashing Kiss logo above it and goes nowhere near it.
Bruh.
moço
no da wandinha
como eu vo po meio
I have that same shirt... strange.
"Screwed into the playfield"? I don't get it...
dont forget leg action ..wasnt safe to be behind me in the 80s
i do it too
I thought tilting was against the rules 😂
Poppycock used to catch the ball on which ever one it was coming to
"Tips for people who know nothing about pinball"
Hell yeah, but it's a great place to start! I was thinking I'd enjoy this even more if it was longer in length* and more sedately paced. Some nice camera work on the various techniques wouldn't go a miss either.
*that's what she said.
I give good tips but I have to size up the player first. One most players miss is depending on the machine it makes more sense sometimes to move your head instead of your eyes to follow the ball. This is one just about everyone misses.
J’aimerai trop être à cette endroit : que des supers flipper bon en France on na la salle de jeux joker au MEGAREX haguenau
Ok I have found that hitting both flippers at exactly the same time gives my shots more accuracy and authority when I am going say for ramps on say an ACDC or a CFTBL. I'm not a super advanced player but I have won a few tournaments sometimes beating better players.
If you habituate your reflexes to something, it can work. The geometry works against you though. For multiballs this will become a much bigger liability, as making a shot with one will give the others a large geometric window to drain through. As long as you're not haphazardly and constantly hitting flippers it's not a big wear concern. Much worse is the excessively long holds which can burn out flippers in a hurry.
@@DeezNutz-yg8io Thanks
@@johnebejer You're welcome! I didn't want to make the last post toooo long, but there *is* one time simultaneous flipping is useful, although it's less brain exercise.
A few games have modes that swap the left and right flipper buttons! Simpsons comes to mind as one. I forget the mode name but it's a great way to break your brain! In a good way.
@@DeezNutz-yg8io Yes Ghostbusters has it too. Also the upper playfield on Haunted House.
@@DeezNutz-yg8io Mystery Spot! I suppose you can hit the flippers simultaneously to not break your brain, or actually flip both hands to be on opposite side flippers.
What do you think of the Cyclone! My favorite :)
what do u like pinballs? alphabet & numbering Pinball? Digital Pinball? I simply like classical pinball.
Digital Pinball, I'm a sucker for pinballs with more fantastical designs
@@BanjoKazooie0 Some of the new Stern machines ARE actually becoming that fantastical. Today's tech with pinball is fantastic!
maybe film yourself actually doing the movie, or showing it on the board. having the camera pointed at your face while showing moves on the board makes little sense.
WAIT... there are pinball leagues?!? >:/
I got yelled at for moving the game last week and tried to be sneaky too. Some places frown upon that. Airport tavern in Tacoma wa.
Sounds like the place probably doesn't have a tech to do simple maintenance. The machines are built to take a bit of a beating. Manufacturers know people will nudge and rock the machine around to keep a ball in play. Sometimes stuff 'breaks' overtime from this, so if they don't have someone that knows how to make fixes, of course they're gonna hate people nudging their machine(s). Most places (at least here in Los Angeles) that have more than a handful of machines, have someone that can do simple maintenance and fixes, so they don't mind you rockin the machine around a bit. I've talked with many owners and bars in LA about their machines and they've all been really cool about nudging. One guy even told me to "feel free to beat the hell out of it.. it will give me something to do later if it fails."
nudging is cheating
@@JudgeSim2 nudging is not cheating, hush.
Cause you were at airport tavern in Tacoma. That’s not the place to be.
Anyone who tells you that doesn't want you to ACTUALLY play pinball. That is ALL part of the game.
I'm in a different realm when I play a pinball machine. When a game is new I mostly know every bounce its already a forgone conclusion. One a machine that has been played for at least a week and gets worn in then you have to "know" every good shot and every bad shot. The problem even at the world class level is the players can't avoid making a bad shot even if they know what is a bad shot is because their coordination and reflexes doesn't make that humanly possible for them. This is what sets me apart from the rest I can tell anyone if I'm playing and I do make a bad shot I can say that was a bad shot whether or not that makes me lose the ball. I may only make what I know is a bad shot only a few times an hour.
I'll challenge you. Florida man.
I can't nudge/bump to save my life(ball). I guess I'm just not strong enough.
Seems like cheating to me, I guess this is why I never liked pinball!
I wish I watched this last night. My high score was 2,213,500. It was my first pinball game.
I tried the rocky balboa flipper machine, and that was a cruel son of a b... as you have to control 4 flippers and on each side you have 2 buttons
Myth: Nudging is cheating and damaging
Fact: While nudging can be considered cheating and can damage the software, it depends on the context. For example, there are some skills such as slap saves (for SDTM balls) combined with a nudge. You need to be careful with nudging so as to not Tilt, which is a fail-deadly mechanism. Most importantly, death saves and bang backs are illegal in tournaments, not to mention dangerous
P insulted me out of a feeling of insecurity.
It's all in the wrists. You,ve got to have supple wrists. Everyone knows that.
love you guys, but i hear that world's best pinball players to offten. Don't forget that in the world exist countries like east europian ones, where we still play after 40 years doing nothing :).
Rule #2) Dont get high on your own supply
WE KNOW!!!
JD FTW!
At 2:33 that creepy mexican guy with the big gulp soda cup is awkardly starring kinda creeped me out !!
lmao. dude wanted tips on the soft plunge!
This video is extremely difficult to learn anything from because they never show the table or what they are talking about.
this is like advice for someone whos never even laid eyes on a pinball machine...like who gives a fuck?
Show, don't tell.
The only way you can show people what a dead flip is... it to show them.
Seriously guys, the editing needed work.
Please tell me who has never played pinball before
"Slingshot"? Tf is that...?..
He tilted
😒
I hope he cleaned the glass after leaving his grease all over it
Yeah i totally learn stuff when people just say it and i have to imagine what it looks like🙄 what a crappy tips video.
Stop it. Get some help.
Good advice, but can't stand the guy.
He tells you to cheat to win, what a douche.
Nudging is cheating
Actually it isn’t.
@@reeseexplains8935 i would argue it shouldn't be allowed because it is damaging to the cabinet hardware - it degrades it over time ...
@@antigen4Nudging is a skill that people use to do well. Nudging SHOULD be allowed. Watch tournament videos because when players nudge, the commentators say “nice save” not “cheater”.
@@reeseexplains8935 He doesn't even know. Anyone who says that doesn't even WANT you to play pinball.
Nudging is totally legitimate. It's half the skill of pinball. If you don't do it, you'll have no chance in any competitive setting. There's not a single player in the top thousand in the world who doesn't do it.
yeahhhh sorry. pinball is all luck
yeahhh sorry, you just suck playing.
@@royvink9376 They're right. If you randomly hit the flippers, pinball is all luck.
(Faint sounds of Laguardia starting a chainsaw with a laugh)
This is a COMMON misconception. There most certainly ARE skills to playing Pinball. I've watched people who have no clue what the hell they are even doing and lose all 3 balls in 30 seconds. Then I've watched the league players in my city play them...
It's fucking night and day.
Some pinball machines I can play one ball without extra balls for at least three hours without draining or using any death saves.
I played one ball without extra balls on the Wipeout pinball machine for over 13 hours. No death saves tilt set to medium at a 6 and a half degree arc angle back to front.
Nudging the machine = cheating.
Nudging is what separates the amateurs from the pros, it also applies to pinball.
I can't tell if you're joking or not.
Dude, learn history, nudging was part of playing pinball even before pinball machines had flippers. I get it if you’re physically disabled and can’t do it, but otherwise nudging is definitely a skill you need to have while playing!
That's like saying punching is cheating in boxing????? The Troll has failed !
At airport tavern in Tacoma wa I got yelled at for nudging 7/2019