Miami Pole Lap 2024 vs 2023 - 2024 lost massively in low speeds

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  • @yelistener
    @yelistener  29 дней назад +118

    Had to blur out the image during some frames to get it pass.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 29 дней назад +2

      Instead of blurring out the onboard I think you could just make the speedo bigger to achieve much of the same effect without taking away something else

    • @lucasabdo4260
      @lucasabdo4260 29 дней назад +17

      ​@@kristoffer3000I mean, he blurred it on the straights, where nothing really happens until braking, so I think it's fine

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 29 дней назад +1

      @@lucasabdo4260 Mostly straights sure but but it also takes information away from the viewer on what is a VERY information driven channel, it also just feels a little weird to watch the speed without seeing the driving

    • @dubby_ow
      @dubby_ow 29 дней назад +1

      ive seen someone blurring just the car itself

  • @sergioferrero46
    @sergioferrero46 29 дней назад +382

    Track conditions were noticeably worse, track evolution was so random

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 29 дней назад +50

      And Pirelli brought soft tires that couldn’t last 1 hard push lap which exacerbated the situation

    • @TheJokerit19
      @TheJokerit19 29 дней назад +6

      @@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 C2-C3-C4 combination was also in use last year.

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 29 дней назад +15

      @@TheJokerit19 Car evolution might have gotten Pirelli this weekend because the lack of soft tire life is definitely something this weekend

    • @TheJokerit19
      @TheJokerit19 29 дней назад

      @@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Possible

    • @Athinira
      @Athinira 29 дней назад +3

      @@TheJokerit19 Track surface is different compared to last year. It's rougher this year, because it's been subjected to a very extreme pressure washing.

  • @f1-mag
    @f1-mag 29 дней назад +94

    Probably also because of higher track temps it was probably very hard to keep them cool enough for low speed corners

  • @richardvi
    @richardvi 29 дней назад +55

    Soft tires were just no good. You even saw some drivers change to medium in qualifying. All drivers complaint that the soft tires could not be kept in the optimal window for only one lap. When drivers pushed to the maximum in sector 1, the tires were already dropping in sectors 2 and 3. Best example was second run Q3 where everybody started to push to the maximum and they actually lost time because of that.

    • @wizzfizz6800
      @wizzfizz6800 29 дней назад +10

      Pirelli need to leave F1 tbh, time for a new manufacturer

    • @fliptheswitch4
      @fliptheswitch4 28 дней назад +3

      @@wizzfizz6800imagine Michelin 😮‍💨

  • @fist003
    @fist003 29 дней назад +10

    love the abrupt ending, just to show how small 0.4 second is

  • @JanMiclat_sWorld0504
    @JanMiclat_sWorld0504 29 дней назад +17

    The music is soothing for F1 action

    • @timbuktu4235
      @timbuktu4235 29 дней назад +1

      Reminds me of Gran Turismo OST

  • @pagatowilliams1228
    @pagatowilliams1228 29 дней назад +2

    insane vid as always

  • @sherlockholmes7630
    @sherlockholmes7630 29 дней назад

    Thanks again for the music!!!!

  • @nover0570
    @nover0570 29 дней назад +1

    Found your channel today with your Lewis video. Good content, keep it up.

    • @F1Stop
      @F1Stop 25 дней назад

      better than official F1 channel

  • @mobyhuge4346
    @mobyhuge4346 29 дней назад +61

    Still insane how Aston lost 1 full second compared to last year

    • @vamositalia4600
      @vamositalia4600 29 дней назад +16

      It's much more insane that Stroll beat Fernando🤣🤣

    • @brisjoh9944
      @brisjoh9944 29 дней назад

      Ayaaa😂😂😂😂😂​@@vamositalia4600

    • @Marco-xz7rf
      @Marco-xz7rf 29 дней назад

      @@vamositalia4600 yeah alonso was a mess in miami :(

  • @abhishekajay9729
    @abhishekajay9729 29 дней назад +109

    Why would a track have so many low speed corners? It’s especially useless when cars are this huge

    • @EnricoPolanski
      @EnricoPolanski 29 дней назад +12

      Why not.

    • @Eric-rf1is
      @Eric-rf1is 29 дней назад +2

      @@EnricoPolanski Why make a "buslain" to small for a bus?

    • @8tonystark8
      @8tonystark8 29 дней назад +1

      Because MoNeY

    • @Ejohrik
      @Ejohrik 29 дней назад +34

      Just wait until you see Monaco...

    • @TheJokerit19
      @TheJokerit19 29 дней назад

      @@8tonystark8 Zero relevance

  • @ballaking1000
    @ballaking1000 29 дней назад +3

    Miami being surrounded essentially on 3 sides with the ocean, I'm sure the crosswinds help make individual drivers lap times random. I'd presume this also makes it hard to make the 'perfect' setup because it's a moving target and drivers just have to hope they don't get screwed too much with headwinds on the straights and tailwinds in the corners (and hope for the inverse).

  • @Chikn853
    @Chikn853 29 дней назад +3

    This channel is too good

  • @larryh968
    @larryh968 29 дней назад

    Nice video, thanks for no drama, just info.

  • @keonxd8918
    @keonxd8918 29 дней назад +82

    Get rid of this fking circuit, it's terrible

    • @harsharip
      @harsharip 29 дней назад +4

      No they won't they will loose the generic American style driver intros

    • @nodekapunk
      @nodekapunk 29 дней назад +2

      @@harsharipwhere did America hurt you?

    • @amethyphoenix
      @amethyphoenix 29 дней назад +5

      @@harsharip You do realize that they have Texas and Las Vegas, right?

    • @sonicsupersam7793
      @sonicsupersam7793 25 дней назад

      eh, there’s worse tracks out there. id rather they got rid of vegas.

    • @harsharip
      @harsharip 25 дней назад

      @@amethyphoenix You are talking, a track that damages the car in just few minutes

  • @standopowah
    @standopowah 29 дней назад +4

    They went slower because the pavement was powerwashed. Apparently it made the track 30% more coarse

  • @tubadude07
    @tubadude07 29 дней назад +2

    2023 camera angle makes so much difference 😊

  • @TheJokerit19
    @TheJokerit19 29 дней назад +4

    Track conditions were simply worse in this year's qualifying, so at least the primary contributing factor, if not the only one, & a 2024 pole lap being slower than a 2023 equivalent was probably bound to happen at some point anyway.

  • @rolandotillit2867
    @rolandotillit2867 29 дней назад +2

    Almost like the lower downforce cars put less energy in the tires in sector 1 which meant more life left in the 2nd sector.

  • @atedejong5620
    @atedejong5620 29 дней назад +1

    probably part of it is also that this weekend is a sprint weekend with techn 1 fp compared to 3 fps last year. just more practice to set up the car properly for race and quali

  • @alejandroquinones3636
    @alejandroquinones3636 29 дней назад +1

    It’s strange how the a couple of qualifying sessions have been influenced by bad or worse track conditions this year. It makes it a shame when the lap times end up being slower than older spec cars.

  • @stevenst6337
    @stevenst6337 28 дней назад

    Was due to higher track temperatures. Even though Miami is a low deg track it still suffers from thermal degradation. Which is actually the main cause of these generation of tyres to overheat is thermal deg and not general wear. Drivers said it was impossible to get the “perfect lap” where you could keep the tyres alive for all 3 sectors. Apparently the tyres were overheating just part ways through sector 1 for most cars.

  • @marcello6810
    @marcello6810 29 дней назад +2

    love the camera angle on verstappen’s car btw

    • @canaljn1994
      @canaljn1994 28 дней назад

      Yes, finally now we know with 100% certainty who was who, before it wasn't very clear especially with the Red Bull cars. If it was a Red Bull with no one in front, I knew it was Verstappen, if it was a Red Bull off the track or making mistakes it was Perez. I don't know what they did to make the camera film the entire upper base, but it's much easier to recognize the pilot now.

  • @alias19
    @alias19 28 дней назад

    1:39 Russell was complaining 2024 that the purple (?) colour of the outside wall at T16 made it difficult to judge the distance to it, making the turn more difficult. But the wall had the same colour and lettering in 2023.

  • @corpsecoder_nw6746
    @corpsecoder_nw6746 28 дней назад

    Is it the tires that are less grippy this year even if they are the same compound? Are the cars running stiffer springs and dampers? Are the cars unable to take the bumps well this year? Are the cars sliding around too much in the low speed entry? Or is the track surface the culprit here?

  • @Rob2
    @Rob2 29 дней назад +1

    I also saw this pole lap on Formula 1's site, and I am puzzled how the 1st and 2nd sectors can be "yellow".
    It was his first lap in Q3, and those colors are shown only for times in each Q. Yellow means "slower than this driver has previously done", how can that be on the 1st attempt?
    So I viewed Q3 again and on the international feed it showed green,purple,green for the pole lap, and purple,yellow,yellow for the second attempt that was slower.

    • @sayannandy876
      @sayannandy876 27 дней назад

      He did a better sector 1 in his second run, maybe it's telling that it was his slower sector in Q3?

    • @Rob2
      @Rob2 27 дней назад

      @@sayannandy876 That would be true for the first sector, but not for the second.

  • @Danker19991
    @Danker19991 29 дней назад +2

    This must be a conscious decision going into the race today because it seems like deg is gonna be a massive issue. People were burning their tyres in half a lap during quali.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 29 дней назад +2

      Pirelli brought tires that are too soft

    • @Rob2
      @Rob2 29 дней назад

      That is why they drive so much slower during the race!

  • @bed1g149
    @bed1g149 28 дней назад

    perez left him in the dust🇲🇽

  • @moodmusicytc
    @moodmusicytc 26 дней назад

    Is this RB specific or did all teams become slower in low speed?

  • @corpsecoder_nw6746
    @corpsecoder_nw6746 28 дней назад

    Did they resurface Bahrain? Is that why the cars were quicker this year than last year at Bahrain?

  • @canaljn1994
    @canaljn1994 28 дней назад

    It's also interesting to note that the on board cameras have changed, right? Today they show the entire upper base of the driver's helmet and before it only showed a small part, in the Red Bull cars it was even difficult to know who was who because it hardly showed Perez and Verstappen's helmets clearly. Someone who understands more about the area, what have they modified to make the cameras look more different today?

  • @spam4437
    @spam4437 29 дней назад

    This video perfectly shows the new camera angles FOM is installing into the TV pods. Am I the only one that hates them? I'd rather see the track than the driver's one-off helmet design every race...

  • @bastordd
    @bastordd 29 дней назад

    Tyre overheat make the difference

  • @huyanhle1277
    @huyanhle1277 29 дней назад +1

    max is still dominating the entire season so far

    • @vamositalia4600
      @vamositalia4600 29 дней назад +2

      Did you expect something different?😂 The massive gap that Red Bull had in 2023 cannot be recovered in one year, 2025 in my opinion will be the same; we will see something different in 2026 with the new cars.

  • @SennaCH96
    @SennaCH96 29 дней назад +1

    Might be down to the tyres too, softs didnt even last a full lap at full push which is insane.

  • @chichochicc
    @chichochicc 29 дней назад

    Everybody is saying track conditions were worse but temp were almost the same, 1-2°C more this year. Something I don't get is that when a track is resurfaced it is said that it would be slower, but this wasn't the case last year. Also, it is said that the RB20 improved a lot in low-speed corners compared to RB19, so I guess that the main fault is in the tyres although the same as last year, the wear this cars are producing is much higher than last year's.

    • @notsydew
      @notsydew 29 дней назад

      This year had softer tyres I believe, which would massively overheat, so much that McLaren and Mercedes opted to qualify on the mediums. Also I'm pretty sure this year the track was flooded not so long ago which definetely doesn't help.

    • @chichochicc
      @chichochicc 29 дней назад

      @@notsydew They were the same as last year C2-3-4. Merc went for Mediums cause they ran out of Softs for the last stint. Lando was the only one trying them tosee if he can get more grip from those mediums

  • @xKinzox
    @xKinzox 29 дней назад +1

    F1 needs to bring in other Tyre manufacturer, Pirelli keeps making the wrong choices and at the same time keeps increasing the cost. This needs competition to reduce the price and improve the quality.

    • @Heizzer47
      @Heizzer47 28 дней назад

      They won’t because they don’t want to. Tyre quality is good enough for the car but not so good that strategy isn’t a factor

    • @sayannandy876
      @sayannandy876 27 дней назад +1

      No one else wants to be in F1.
      Pirelli can actually make tyres go the full GP distance without degrading. F1 wants the tyres to be made intentionally fragile, to encourage pit stops, as refueling is no longer allowed. Other manufacturers are reluctant to join in as they don't see any advertisement value in making flimsy tyres

  • @knuffel3225
    @knuffel3225 29 дней назад

    a lot to do with the conditions....... but the 23 RB was a tremendous car........ dont forget that either........ probably miami suited the 23 car as a glove

  • @mikemelina7395
    @mikemelina7395 28 дней назад

    The car weighs 100lbs more, the lap record Max set in 2023 will probably stand for 10 years. Half a second slower...anywhere where nimbleness will be a factor, the 2024 cars are going to be slower than the 2023 cars.

  • @pocoloco-sr1cu
    @pocoloco-sr1cu 29 дней назад

    This generation of cars seemed so stagnant for me. 2014-2020 we saw them get faster and faster but ever since 2021, we saw them get slower and heavier

    • @nodekapunk
      @nodekapunk 29 дней назад

      The RB20 has been faster in every race and qualifying than the RB19 except for this track. Track conditions are just worse this year. Seems to be hotter than last year.

    • @keonxd8918
      @keonxd8918 29 дней назад

      2017 onwards, they were going in the right direction. And proceeds to trash it all with the 2022 regulations, and back to pre-2017 we go

  • @Dark.Valkyrie
    @Dark.Valkyrie 29 дней назад

    Pirelli did sth with tyres in my opinion

  • @guszti014
    @guszti014 29 дней назад +1

    The track condition might be worse also because last year it was a normal weekend rather than a sprint one so less rubber on track.

  • @Lackooo84
    @Lackooo84 29 дней назад

    1:11 - wtf is this blurring sh*t?!

  • @Poisonjam7
    @Poisonjam7 28 дней назад

    I mean, yeah of course it was slower this year. All the drivers were talking about was how bad the track felt and how it wasn’t allowing any grip for the tires. Even Max was shocked he got pole with such a bad lap. Crap circuit with crap surface.

  • @thitrinhxuan8580
    @thitrinhxuan8580 28 дней назад

    Bad track condition, track evolution and DRS zone

  • @antonisbiamis9973
    @antonisbiamis9973 29 дней назад

    Checo clear

  • @10001000101
    @10001000101 29 дней назад +5

    They run no other cars before the F1 runs, so the track is so dirty, and the track itself is trash, the prices for tickets and food are insane, just can this whole PoS event.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 29 дней назад +5

      So sad that F1 feels the need to go to countries with huge human rights problems like Saudi and the US, the tracks aren't even good and Miami just feels like a mockery of the sport

    • @RhomasTotevenaar
      @RhomasTotevenaar 29 дней назад

      ​@@kristoffer3000comparing the US to Saudi is a bad comparison. Don't see America throwing people off buildings as punishments

    • @nodekapunk
      @nodekapunk 29 дней назад

      @@kristoffer3000explain the human rights problems America has. Also compare it to a country you deem to do better.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 29 дней назад

      @@nodekapunk Literal legal slavery, more people in prison than the rest of the world combined, police murders being commonplace, terrible worker rights, terrible reproductive rights, no free speech (just ask the protestors sitting still and not doing anything wrong how free their speech really is), inhumane foreign policy that is downright genocidal at times, racist governance etc
      I could go on but I think I made my point and I hope you feel quite silly trying to call me out on what is very common knowledge.
      I could compare it to other countries but what purpose would that really serve as most countries are a lot better in that regard and it would only serve to derail the conversation which you're very clearly trying to do.

    • @nodekapunk
      @nodekapunk 29 дней назад

      @@kristoffer3000
      Free speech: I believe other countries you go to jail if you say the wrong joke. Free speech means you can protest all you want, but you can’t brake the law in the process, such as trespassing. That’s pretty basic stuff.
      Police killings: Do you actually know any statics or do you just like blurting dumb shit you hear other dumb people say? There are 1163 fatal shootings last year. That’s for a population over well over 300 million. Do you honestly think all of those are unjustified? Yes there are unjustified police killings that happen but the numbers are so low and the policemen that do them are prosecuted.
      Terrible worker’s rights: you’ll actually need to go into detail. This is state by state and I’m not sure your complaints so I can even agree or offer a rebuttal.
      Prison system: yep, people go to jail who break the law. I think there should be some reform to a point, but I don’t think we should let violent offenders and drug traffickers walk, or thieves walk.
      Racist polices: name a law on the book today that is racist please.
      Foreign policies: I agree, I think America should stop giving its money to the rest of the world. How much money do they give to other countries as aid? Have you bothered looking that up? What other country beats America in foreign aid? Again, provide stats, proof and I’ll provide a rebuttal.
      It’s hard to give any examples when you spew random garbage with no examples to refute, just platitudes you have probably read on the internet.

  • @supta2110
    @supta2110 29 дней назад

    Worse track condition...😅

  • @JesusG-rd5mt
    @JesusG-rd5mt 29 дней назад

    Verstappen fan girls making excuses in these comments coping hard just cause Perez was faster 😂😂😂

  • @harithhumam4372
    @harithhumam4372 29 дней назад +1

    Perez was just better than this year Verstappen

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 29 дней назад +9

      Lmao, it's even stated in the intro that Max didn't get a timed Q3 lap in 2023, he would've very very likely beat Perez if he did.

    • @Reaz399
      @Reaz399 29 дней назад +8

      Stupid much? Perez got pole last year because Leclerc shunted it into the wall in Q3 ruining Max‘s 2nd push lap ( Max aborted his first one, hence why he qualified P9 after that red flag).
      Max‘s Q2 time last year on used softs was faster than Perez‘ eventual pole time in Q3, that tells you everything. Max had half a second on Perez over 1 lap last year in Miami and absolutely dunked on that Mexican bum in the race coming from P9 so pipe down.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 29 дней назад +1

      😂😂 than you know nothing abt F1 cars, tyres, track surface, track temp 😂😂

  • @alzarpomario889
    @alzarpomario889 29 дней назад

    Please f1 stop this bloated electric madness.

  • @porama15199
    @porama15199 28 дней назад

    VER won Perez pretty big gap in S2, but S1 and S3 he lost.