Thanks for alot of the research on this channel. Just bought a modified controller on ebay with the K-Silver sensors and Jun Zeng mainboard for manual calibration. I know the mainboards are pretty irrelevant due to the software calibration tools now, but the Ebayer was the only one selling these kind of controllers that was transparent on what sensors they were using, provided gamepad tester footage etc and definitely werent trying to exploit people with limited knowledge on the subject. As long as the sensors are calibrated well it doesnt matter to me anyways.
Would be interesting to what the gamesir controllers are using, my g8 hall effect sticks are smalll and in a see through housing, they don't look like regular analogue sticks.
It's a very interesting experiment. I implemented a similar evaluation on a Dualsense board. However, there was no fall time delay with Ginfull sensor in the 20ms waveform. The evaluation board may need to be improved as well as PS5 Dualsense.
For measuring smd caps and resistors off pcb I usually take a piece of tape and stick them on it to keep them from moving. Not perfect but quicker than soldering one side to some pcb.
I like the favor union they feel more tight and more responsive in game where the ginfill feel sloppy and a lag kinda at time…. Haven’t try the silver yet
Hello, I was impressed by this content. I know the GuliKit sensors are expensive and good here, but what would you recommend the most among GinFull, K-Silver, and Union in that content?
If the controller can be software calibrated, it should be no different from PS5. Just keep in mind that both XB and PS4 (but not PS5) are polar reversed on one axis, and neither of those two have the same axis reversed. So that means none of the three are directly compatible with the console they are not made for. One can usually tell by one sensor housing being a different colour.
Suppose a game with "mouse" control for menu may work along with a high speed camera to make actuation trigger points easier to verify than typically tested game actions. CP2077 or such perhaps.
@@minty257they’ll work on the edge with a calibration board. TMR is known to have drifting issues though. Favor unions are best at the moment for the edge
Hello. i got some ginful v5 and planned on swapping out the v1 ive been using. Just wanted to know if the filter that eliminates the jitter causes more latency or if the latency on the v1 was better than the v5. id rather have jitter than more input delay.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 v1 had a white and black label. looks like the first ones you tested had red so a later revision. Maybe ill poke into a v1 and see if there isn't any resisters or capacitors. if you compare the response times from when you removed them on the other version they would be a bit faster than the v5 if that's the case. I have a pile of sticks and parts and cant make up my freakin mind. maybe ill use the tmr for a bit
Hye,really appreciate your work.Recently they have release GInfull the optimize one for the xbox controller.Hope you can try it if the magnet effect the trigger or not.
@@hombrepepega3472 oh okay, well I installed L-8L ones and there is no real delay, I did test the delay via software and there was no delay maybe 2-3 outliers from 1000 samples and playing fps games with them feels also nice and responsive, so I would highly recommend using them even tho your sticks are still working
Thanks for alot of the research on this channel. Just bought a modified controller on ebay with the K-Silver sensors and Jun Zeng mainboard for manual calibration.
I know the mainboards are pretty irrelevant due to the software calibration tools now, but the Ebayer was the only one selling these kind of controllers that was transparent on what sensors they were using, provided gamepad tester footage etc and definitely werent trying to exploit people with limited knowledge on the subject.
As long as the sensors are calibrated well it doesnt matter to me anyways.
I was pretty happy with the K-Silver sensors.
Would be interesting to what the gamesir controllers are using, my g8 hall effect sticks are smalll and in a see through housing, they don't look like regular analogue sticks.
It's a very interesting experiment. I implemented a similar evaluation on a Dualsense board.
However, there was no fall time delay with Ginfull sensor in the 20ms waveform.
The evaluation board may need to be improved as well as PS5 Dualsense.
For measuring smd caps and resistors off pcb I usually take a piece of tape and stick them on it to keep them from moving. Not perfect but quicker than soldering one side to some pcb.
Great idea, thanks.
Could you test the hall effect sensors in the 8bitdo controllers please?
I like the favor union they feel more tight and more responsive in game where the ginfill feel sloppy and a lag kinda at time…. Haven’t try the silver yet
Anyone here tried k silver?
@@H786...I’ve thought they felt delayed, have really good circularity though, haven’t had the chance to try the favor union yet
Hello, I was impressed by this content.
I know the GuliKit sensors are expensive and good here, but what would you recommend the most among GinFull, K-Silver, and Union in that content?
The new K-Silver TMR joystick will be the low-cost winner.
i havent seen any channel/video about these sensors put into xbox controllers.
i hope you could do it someday.
i gotta say, your work is awesome.
If the controller can be software calibrated, it should be no different from PS5.
Just keep in mind that both XB and PS4 (but not PS5) are polar reversed on one axis, and neither of those two have the same axis reversed. So that means none of the three are directly compatible with the console they are not made for. One can usually tell by one sensor housing being a different colour.
Hi I just want to know which one is the best one ?? Because I've a huge drift on my dualsense controller 😢.
The best I've seen so far is the GuliKit TMR joysticks.
Since we're watching about parts from a video game controller, I would like to see testing in some games so I can see what you mean by there's delay.
I'll have to think about that, I'm not sure there would be a way to see it with a game. It's more of a feel than anything else.
Suppose a game with "mouse" control for menu may work along with a high speed camera to make actuation trigger points easier to verify than typically tested game actions. CP2077 or such perhaps.
can L-4A rated module work as in 2.3k Ohm rated module ????
Yes
Would you still consider the favor union modules better overall at this point?
I consider the GuliKit TMR the best at this time, but they are more expensive.
It's too bad that these modules don't work on the dualsense edge
@@minty257they’ll work on the edge with a calibration board. TMR is known to have drifting issues though. Favor unions are best at the moment for the edge
@@metalplasticelectronics354K-Silver TMR is coming out soon. Gulikits at least on Xbox have a QC issue. Besides the odd overshoot that happens.
Hello. i got some ginful v5 and planned on swapping out the v1 ive been using. Just wanted to know if the filter that eliminates the jitter causes more latency or if the latency on the v1 was better than the v5. id rather have jitter than more input delay.
The latency on the V5 is much better and has much less delay than the early version I tried.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 the early one you tested was the v1 right? Thanks for your reply.
I'm not sure if it was V1 or V3.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 v1 had a white and black label. looks like the first ones you tested had red so a later revision. Maybe ill poke into a v1 and see if there isn't any resisters or capacitors. if you compare the response times from when you removed them on the other version they would be a bit faster than the v5 if that's the case. I have a pile of sticks and parts and cant make up my freakin mind. maybe ill use the tmr for a bit
good work brother i was looking for a video like this.
Glad you liked it
Hye,really appreciate your work.Recently they have release GInfull the optimize one for the xbox controller.Hope you can try it if the magnet effect the trigger or not.
I don't have an Xbox, sorry.
love it!
I have a L-4C board with a 93L44 chip
I was going to wait a bit and order some more to see if they are making any changes.
Does it feel delayed when you move the stick?
@@shpendlenthamitaga8998 IDK man, im not ready to install them, I rarely play with controller, so I haven't got stick drift yet
@@hombrepepega3472 oh okay, well I installed L-8L ones and there is no real delay, I did test the delay via software and there was no delay maybe 2-3 outliers from 1000 samples and playing fps games with them feels also nice and responsive, so I would highly recommend using them even tho your sticks are still working
ps3 original controller is better hall effect joystick (4pin out) can you check it
Take a look at this video: ruclips.net/video/bQlB6qkpJrE/видео.htmlsi=IBGOGwv1AW88cZQy
0:26 PCB or printed circuit board pick one, don't combine them
hello , does your channle accpet sponsorship ?
Possibly. You can email me at mike@mlplel.com.
Hi hello from Greece can you tell me please wich sticks is the best and the most fast for ps5 controller thank you I am your new subscription
I would say the GuliKit TMR joysticks are the best I've tested so far.