Why Idol Worship is Toxic
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2021
- Clement Harold, Research Assistant for the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology, gives a thoughtful reflection on the readings for mass on August 14, 2021.
Jos 24:14-29
PS 16:1-2a and 5, 7-8, 11
Mt 19:13-15
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Excellent reflexion! Welcome aboard Clement.
Thank you so much . “As for me and my household we will serve the Lord”
'He feeds on ashes; a deluded mind has led him astray, and he cannot save himself or say, “Is not this thing in my right hand a fraud?”'
- Isaiah 44: 20
A good and powerful message, thank you.
Welcome! Your first talk is fire. Great start. God bless you on your new career!
Welcome to the team!!! Well done :)
If the secular world actually ponders on these readings... What can be perceived as a God who is forcing people to believe in Him/worship Him, it is actually teaching us Integrity. If we choose evil or idolatry etc. The least we can do is man up and say that this is what we choose and believe and not half-hearted allegiance to God. Under the garb of "rights" many are choosing to be double agents (if I can use Intelligence related terms). In fact, Israel has always been a double agent and they paid very dearly for it... The split of the Kingdom, the Assyrian Conquest and Babylonian Captivity. If those are symbols, imagine what will happen to us!
@@tony1685 sorry brother. Catholic Church teaches perfectly. You will be thunderstruck if you know the deep biblical background of every single teaching that the Catholic Church teaches.
Dr. Scott Hahn has explained many of the topics in a profoundly biblical setting all that non Catholics point out as unbiblical. You will come to realise that Catholic Church is perfect in it's teaching whereas non Catholic groups are severely distorted in their various contradictory interpretations
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@@tony1685 sorry, the private interpretation is the exclusive domain of non catholics. Catholics rely solely on the authority of the Church to interpret scripture. The Chair of Moses which Jesus taught to always obey is the only sure interpreter of scripture.
The Kingdom of David which God promised Messiah would inherit and rule is the Church. The Church continues to have the exact same characteristic as Davidic kingdom which Jesus meticulously knew and ensured to carry forward in His Church. When Jesus gave the keys of His Kingdom to Peter, it was not simply a show off. It is done by profound biblical background and the exclusive characteristic of Davidic Kingdom. Isaiah says about Shebna who will become the successor of the office of the representative of the King. Always in the Davidic kingdom there was a representative of King and he held his office which is shown in the keys that he possess and the handing over of those keys to the successor shows that it is the office possessed in succession. He takes care and governs the Kingdom in King's absence whenever king moves to the distant or far countries. He is called in the old testament as the Father. (Pope in Latin is Papa means Father). The keys in the old testament which says of binding and loosing in the executing of the authority. This is the reason that Jesus gives the keys of His Kingdom to Peter. Peter governs the earthly Kingdom and also has the binding and loosing authority with the sole authority to interpret the scripture and guard it from heretics. The topic on the Papal office is much more in-depth from the old testament and New testament which I have no time to explain fully here.
There is no priesthood in non Catholic groups because they don't believe in the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist (original greek Bible: Eucharistia) The New testament also warns of those groups who say there is no ministerial priesthood by calling them as the followers of Korah who during the time of Moses challenged the ministerial priesthood of Levi saying that God said that whole Israel is the kingdom of priest and why you need the special ministerial priesthood and God punished him and his followers by making the earth swallow them up just like non catholics believe. This is explicitly mentioned in New Testament - the wrath of God on such people. Also you have so much indepth treasure on the ministerial priesthood, like Jesus preparing his apostles for ministerial priesthood by bringing them to the field and making his apostles pick the grains of wheat on Sabbath which was the exclusive right only of priests and not of any other man. He challenges them why the priests are not guilty of profaning the Sabbath. Because every Sabbath day the priest prepare something most holy which is called "Lachem ha panin" in Hebrew bible. This means "Bread of the presence" They were 12 loaves bread prepared on the Sabbath day and consecrated and demonstrated the presence of God. It was lifted and showed to the assembly of people saying "Behold the Love of God". In every Catholic liturgical worship (this is again the very deep topic. Because the worship of God is always liturgical according to Bible. It requires mandatory sacrifice offering. And Malachy prophecies in the new Covenant, the pure sacrifice would be offered by all nations from the rising of the sun till it's setting every day. This is fulfilled only in Catholic Church because in non Catholic groups there is no sacrificial offering and as a result no priesthood. Now that there can't be more pure offering other than Christ's sacrifice which He made for once and for all is offered every single day in all nations in the new Covenant community exactly as prophecied in Catholic church alone. ) Also the true Church is Roman Catholic Church. Because in the book of Daniel, God promises that Messiah will come during the fourth empire (Scholars identify that it is the Roman Empire. Daniel was during the time of Babylonian Empire. The next successive empire were Medo Persian, Greek and then Roman Empire.) It was also prophecied in the book of Daniel that the Messiah will establish His Kingdom during the reign of the Fourth Empire. And later His Kingdom will take possession of the fourth empire/kingdom and spread throughout the world after that.
Take out your history books and find out which is that Kingdom that took the possession of the Fourth Empire and spread throughout the world after that. It is clear that Jesus came during the reign of Roman Empire, he established His Kingdom (the Church) during the reign of Roman Empire and eventually the Church that He established possessed the Roman Empire in 4th century AD and then spread throughout the world after that. No other so called Christian groups can claim this astonishing historical fact. It is the Catholic Church that exclusively fulfilled this prophecy to it's minute detail and therefore it proves with no doubt that the Catholic Church is the will and plan of God and the Church that Christ established.
There are many many ground breaking, mind shattering things I really love to share here. What I shared here is nothing but the scratch on the surface. The depth is as deep as that of the ocean. I got no space to write it here. Nor does the time permits me to explain.
There are amazing things so deep from the scriptures on Mary, the Eucharist, the priesthood, the papacy, the Church, the liturgical worship, the reason why Jesus still now in heaven appears as He is slain in front of the Throne of God as described in Revelation, the purgatory, the praying for the intercession of saints, Novena, and much more. Every single topic is breath takingly deep and mind blowingly deep in scripture and prophecies. You just will cry out of joy and terror
@@tony1685 for this common age old and outdated pin pointing of Exodus 20:4-6, you got volumes of books out there on that topic.
Then explain me why if God banned to create any graven image of anything under heaven and in heaven, why is there graven image commanded of bronze serpent. Perfect contradictory isn't it? Why there were cherubim's and seraphims (the highest angels) engraved on the Ark of the Covenant? Why there were all kinds of images engraved inside the Temple that was established? Why the Ark of the Covenant which is nothing but an object was so holy and was mandated of veneration and failing to respect it even by pure accident was fatal resulting in death right away ?
The idols that you worship is your man made ideas according to your pleasure of belief or somebody's man made ideas.
You believe the Paul's saying in Bible that the bread that is broken in remembrance of Christ every Sunday (note that apostles and the early Christians gathered to break bread on Sundays as New testament points out), that if any man participates in it unworthily by not discerning it as body of Christ is eating and drinking judgement.
If you accept this saying from Paul in Bible and you believe that breaking of bread is only symbolic and not the real presence of Christ, then you the idol worshipper of highest degree. Because you believe that the bread which is a symbol is capable of pouring the wrath of God. This is an outright idol worship.
For Catholics, the bread consecrated at Mass is nothing else other than Christ's body himself, there is no contradiction for us in Paul's statement and command and it won't lead us into the idol worship. But for every non Catholic , the breaking of bread in Christ's remembrance is a pure IDOL WORSHIP since they also believe that this symbolic bread is magical (having the judgement of God poured upon them if not participated in it worthily. Note that Paul mentions that the judgement befalls on those who don't recognize the bread and wine as the body and blood of Christ which non Catholics fail to even talk about it. 1 Cor 11:29)
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It is typical of non Catholics to see the Eucharist as a mere cookie. Because non Catholics do not know what is called as New Covenant in scripture. The term New Covenant is used explicitly to refer the Eucharist. Eucharist is the New Covenant.
The Bread of the Presence in old testament which foreshadows Eucharist is called by God as the Everlasting Covenant. The bread is called Everlasting Covenant by God.
And it is the bread that Jesus called as the New and Everlasting Covenant. For non Catholics it is just the cookie, for Catholics it is the New and Everlasting Covenant, the source of Salvation. Learn about the relationship of Old Testament Todah sacrifice, Tamid Lamb to the Eucharist and see how mind blowing it is. It is not for silly reason that Jesus skipped the fourth cup of wine during the last supper (Fourth cup was the last cup also called as Cup of salvation in Jewish Passover liturgical tradition which was drunk after the Halel psalm are sung). The Bible clearly mentions that after they drank of the Cup of Blessing (the cup that Jesus blessed raising up. Third cup in Passover liturgy), Jesus and the apostles sang the Halel hymn and straight away left the table and went out keeping Passover meal still unfinished and incomplete. (Passover meal is FINISHED only after the drinking of the Cup of Consummation) Jesus said of this cup during Last Supper that he won't drink it until he drinks it in His Kingdom, Jesus refered to it in His prayer at Gethsemane and asked the Father to take away this cup if possible. But Jesus willingly submitted to His Father's will to drink the final cup of wine and complete the Passover. Jesus on the cross was given the wine but rejected since his time was not yet come to consume and finish it. At the End when He successfully established the Kingdom at the last breath He took the wine on the cross and said IT IS FINISHED. What is finished? Non Catholics have no clue of it. It is the Passover that He left purposefully incomplete was finished by drinking the final Cup of Wine and helping formally establish the Kingdom. Jesus could have drunk the final cup in the upper room itself. But Jesus wanted to join His literal physical death to the bread that He broke and said This is my Body broken for you. Without the last supper meal the crucifixtoon of Jesus is nothing but a brutal execution on the piece of wood. But with the last supper meal that was purposefully left incomplete untill it's formal liturgical completion by literally drinking wine on the cross are the moment of His death, it has become the sacrifice, the Passover sacrifice whose flesh is mandatorily to be consumed to have the God's people saved from His judgement during their journey out of Egypt and for the new Covenant community during their journey out of sin to life everlasting.
The Greek word used in Our Father, which is translated in English as daily bread is actually called "Epiosous" bread . Which means " Super substantial " bread. It is not the ordinary bread that Jesus asked His followers to pray for. It is the miraculous bread that His followers ought to pray for. Jesus is the Living bread that came down from heaven as the miraculous manna from heaven that Jews ate. If you consider the old covenant manna which appears as "WAFERS" as miraculous how much more miraculous is the bread that Jesus gave for us at the Last Supper which He commanded to do in His MEMORIAL by intentional extending of Passover supper to culminate it and literally join the bread He broke to His body He broke on the cross.
For the biblical concept of what Memorial is, learn it from the Catholic Church. It is not the modern sense of memorial where you bring into your mind the things of the past. The Exodus meaning of the Term MEMORIAL or REMEMBRANCE is the actual literal participation in the past historical event in the present time. It is ACTUAL MAKING PRESENT OF THE EVENT OF THE PAST and participating in it literally.
There is so much more sorry i can't explain everything about the thing that you call as cookie here in this limited amount of time.
And for your continual focus on Sabbath, “Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest” (Matthew 11:28). The rest offered on the Sabbath was now being offered in Christ.
The Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath” (Matthew 12:8).
Colossians 2:16-17:
"Let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ".
And since Christ has now come, observing the Sabbath is no longer a matter of obedience or disobedience. Rather, Paul says, “Let no one pass judgment on you.”
Romans 14:5 holds a similarly striking claim. Consider Paul’s words here alongside a typical old-covenant statement about the Sabbath.
You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death. (Exodus 31:14)
One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. (Romans 14:5)
If an old-covenant Israelite esteemed “all days alike,” he might be stoned to death (Numbers 15:32-36). Yet Paul evidently felt no need to impose the Sabbath command on his Gentile converts. Some in Rome, it seems, wanted to keep the Sabbath (and so esteem “one day as better than another”) - perhaps Jewish Christians eager to maintain the traditions of their fathers. Paul had no issue with those Christians, so long as they refrained from pressuring others to imitate them or suggested that salvation hinged on obedience to the Sabbath (compare Galatians 4:8-11).
The author of Hebrews brings us closer to the heart of why the new covenant does not require a literal seventh-day rest. Christ’s first coming did not abolish rest; rather, it ushered in a deeper kind of rest than the Sabbath could ever offer.
According to Hebrews 4, Israel’s Sabbath day always pointed forward to a far greater day: the still-future day when all creation will enter fully into the rest foreshadowed and promised in Genesis 2:2-3, the very first seventh day. “So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God” (Hebrews 4:9). The ultimate Sabbath rest is coming, when God’s people will enjoy work without toil, hearts without sin, and an earth without thorns.
Yet even now, Hebrews implies, we feel the first waves of the coming rest. In Christ, we “have [already] tasted . . . the powers of the age to come” (Hebrews 6:5), rest included. For, the author writes, “We who have believed enter that rest” (Hebrews 4:3) - not “will enter,” but “enter”: fully later, truly now.
And how do we enter that rest? Not mainly by putting aside our weekly labors for one day in seven, but by believing: “We who have believed enter that rest.” Faith in Jesus Christ brings the rest of the seventh day into every day.
One of the best reflections I've ever heard.
It really made me think deeply and ask myself "choose this day whom you will serve?"
Half-hearted devotion is no devotion at all😔
Thank you Clement. Godshine on you and St. Paul Center.
Thank you, Clement. May God bless you, always!
It seems like an easy answer yet so many are lead astray. May our brethren see that it is our Lord whom we must follow.
Thank you, 😊
Welcome Clement - great example of what way a man needs to live and his family too.
Powerful reflection, thank you and God Bless You
Prophetic message in the true sense, thank you.
Thanks Clement .A thought provokoing reflection with clarity .Lets be like children so as to be with Our Lord Jesus.
Great reflection! Looking forward to more from you. Congratulations on your new position.
Thank you. May God bless you in your ministry..🙏
St Paul Center always the..WELCOME TO GROW IN OUR JOURNEY TO LIVE OUR CATHOLIC FAITH AND EARN HEAVEN.
love your talk you are right up to date for this GONE BONKERS
WORLD.THANK YOU .SE
See you again.
Greetings! Thank you for your exhortation, it is well received!
I do have a question however. Within the Catholic Church there are many statues set up that people go to stand before or under and pray.
Also people still pray the "Hail Mary" which is idolatrous and addressing her as if she is a god. This in itself is totally idolatrous and needs to be discouraged, using the biblethere is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among mankind by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12 and "For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, 1 Timothy 2:5+6. How would you explain what is done in Catholicism please?
Thank you very much for this very much needed and strong explanation. It is all true. Welcome and God bless.
Yes, the idols don't have any power. But the demons and demon possessed people shown on the computer, smartphone, laptop, tv etc. screens can use their eyes and their songs to do strange mind control and motion control effects. Demons can come through the veil with these demon enchanted idols. Supposedly the demons can hear and see people through the screens by scrying but the demons might be lying about that.
Thanks, this was great 🙏🏼
Thank u 4 reminding us of our responsibility as Christian parents & grand parents. For us to b live as Christ has commanded us, we Han 2 put our faith in2 action in our households. God bls u so much, now & always. 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
I like the way Mr. Harold speaks!
First shot, very good one
Thank you. This is very true in our day.
Greetings! Thank you for your exhortation, it is well received!
I do have a question however. Within the Catholic Church there are many statues set up that people go to, stand before or under and pray.
Also people still pray the "Hail Mary" which is idolatrous and addressing her as if she is a god. This in itself is totally idolatrous and needs to be discouraged, using the bible, "there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among mankind by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12 and "For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, 1 Timothy 2:5+6. How would you explain what is done in Catholicism please?
Thank you for this deep reflection. To trust God The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit, and His Holy Family, The Church, is something often countercultural, either in the old testament era, new testament ,and throughout history until now.
But He is The Father who always keep His promise.
Welcome!
Excellent! Welcome aboard, fellow Brit 😂🇬🇧
Fantastic. Really awesome 👍👍👍👌👌👌
much needed message... huge criticism good protestant brothers have for us Catholics and of course the world... However, many protestants are hypocritical or simply are blind in comfort and consumption...lukewarm Christians... anyway we followers of Christ Jesus need to be hearts on fire for Jesus, Abba Father Almighty and the Holy Spirit - one God.... may we glorify the Lord and serve as lamps for a dark grey lost digitally justified world
Hello Clement from nz
Idol worship, demon worship, people worship, image worship, demon possessed people images shown on idols, etc. is only a problem if you don't worship God and especially if you aren't saved by Jesus, otherwise all the voodoo practitioners, santeria practitioners etc. would be punished. Dancing around idols is not a sin. Sacrifices offered to idols, people, graven images are really being offered to demons.
What colourful stuff did u smoke??
Idolatry is good. It is a conveyor of culture and ideals.
God died for us???
But didn't Jesus say when he was crucifired, to forgive the pagans, for they know not what they do?
If Jesus asks us to forgive pagans, why doesn't God forgive people for being pagan? The Roman soldiers didn't even say they were sorry. Nor did they ask the Christians for forgiveness.
We are expected to forgive them, even if they are not apologize to us. But God doesn't do that according to Christians. He doesn't forgive people for not being Christian according to Christians, but we are expected to.
It makes no sense, we are expected to be more compassionate than God. It's hypocritical to ask us to forgive the pagans, if God won't forgive them.
God forgave the city of Ninevah, and spared them of destructio due to Jonah inspiring them to repent to God. Jonah didn't convert anybody in the city to Judaism, yet God still accepted their repentance.
This idea that God wants or need you to convert to any religion for forgiveness, is not a teaching from the bible, it is a teaching of the church. A person doesn't even have to convert to Christianity to believe in Christ according to the bible. At no point does God say to convert people to Christianity, it says to spread the gospel, that's it.
I know many Hindus who love Jesus and believe in Jesus. But let a Christian tell it, they are going to hell, even though they believe in Jesus.
God has turned some over to a reprobate state of mind. Psalms 118:8-9 KJV
“And he said, “Abba, Father, all things are possible to thee; remove this cup from me; yet not what I will, but what thou wilt.””
Mark 14:36 RSV-CI
How about letting people be themselves if they are not hurting any living creature. 🤷🏼♀️ Not poking their noses in some others religion 🤷🏼♀️It’s called freedom of religion🤷🏼♀️ Democracy of religion 🤷🏼♀️
Or for importance of place, The Alamo. Worth a visit. No nearby building can be built so tall that it would cast a shadow on The Alamo.
Well spoken on the topic of serving idols. These top down ideologies developed somewhere else are in conflict with the Catholic idea of subsidiarity. Each community, should solve its social ills in the community. No need for a theorist far away to impress their ideology on communities they’ve never frequented.
The nations made carved images, in the likeness of heaven above, or in the likeness of the earth below, and set the carved images in the flag, to serve them.
The blind cannot see the idols of the nations, high and lifted up on a flag pole, because the idols are made of fabric.
The US founding fathers made carved images of fabric, in the likeness of the stars of heaven, and set the carved images in the flag, to serve them.
The idol worshippers of the US, are worshipping the star spangled of heaven, and bald eagle of the earth.
The idol worshippers of Israel, are worshipping the star remphan of heaven [ Acts 7:43 ]
The idol worshippers of Canada, are worshipping the leaf of the maple tree of the earth.
The idol worshippers of Mexico, are worshipping the eagle and serpent of the earth.
The idol worshippers of Japan, are worshipping the sun of heaven.
Idolatry is through the pledge of allegiance to the flag and anthem.
When the king of Babylon the great played the anthem at the sound of music the Babylonians fell down to the ground and worshipped the gold statue of the earth.
When the US plays the anthem at the sound of music the US stand on their feet and worshipped the star spangled of heaven with a song.
The idol worshippers of the nations don't understand that serving images of the flag, or symbols, is idolatry.
God said, you shall not make any carved image, in the likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the likeness of anything in the earth below. You shall not bow down to them, nor serve them. [ Exodus 20:3-5 ] and [ Deuteronomy 4:15-19 ]
When ancient Israel made flag banners in the wilderness for Identity, ancient Israel did not pledge allegiance to the flag banners nor play the anthem to the flag banners, because God was their banner.
The nations can fool the ministers of God with their idols of fabric, high and lifted up on a flag pole, but the nations cannot fool God with their idols of fabric.
This message is for idol worshippers who are serving the flag, through the pledge of allegiance, or anthem.
In Jesus name
Jesus Christ is alive. Life exclusively comes from life.
I'd rather like to enjoy looking at Idols which is Physically Existing rather than Blind Faith on something I cannot See, Touch, Smell, Hear etc. I rather prefer to have control of my Life than be Trapped in my own mind on the Basis of Something not proven.
Cow 🐮 worshippor 🤣😂😂😂🤣😂
Let them rot in their foolishness.
And that idol is made from gods sand or God giving materiel by humans 🤣😹
then hell is ready
Pain...that. u can't see or smell...
Like.....
U hv to feel /faith in... god the creator
Ahhh, now we can destroy idols of jesus in nearby church???
Please be aware that God has allowed idolatry since the 1800s for the end times to foil Satan's plans. Idol worship, demon worship, people worship etc. are now allowed. But I suggest getting saved by Jesus because you get the holy spririt. And make sure you read your Bible and/or ask God so that you don't get possessed, damaged, suppressed, killed, by Satan, and don't take the coming mark of the beast.