“My Stalker’s Been To Prison 3 Times But Refuses To Stop Harassing Me” | This Morning
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2024
- Jenny Pickering has endured months of torment at the hands of a stalker she’d only ever met once. She was left too terrified to even close her eyes in the shower after her stalker, Jan Schlossar, bombarded her with sexual messages, moved house to be closer to her, and even proposed to her at her place of work. Despite being given a lifetime restraining order and spending three stints in prison, Jenny fears he will ‘never give up’. In a bid to encourage other women to report similar harassment, she’s joining us alongside Criminal Psychiatrist Dr Sohom Das.
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There's an extremely thin line between "I'm being stalked" and "on today's news a woman has been murdered by her stalker"
The laws need to be changed to protect victims not criminals. My heart breaks for this poor woman.
It’s her work phone not that easy to change it plus would be easy for him to find the new number as it is given out due to it being a work phone . And you shouldn’t have to the owness is not on the victim
She shouldn’t have to get rid of her social media. That’s like saying women shouldn’t wear dresses if they’ve been catcalled wearing them.
@@itsyourmethod This is so victim blamey…why should she have to make all these changes and live her life differently , he should be monitored closely by police , if not locked up for a lot longer , so she doesn’t have to live her life in fear
@@user-om6ss7pp2j Well I mean witness protection programs exist for a reason. It's not right a witness has to change their whole lives, but that's the only way to keep them safe
@@user-om6ss7pp2j And the police sadly absolutely do not have the resources to do that kind of monitoring, that's a huge time and personnel commitment
It's so cringe because a woman smiles at you and is polite doesn't mean she wants you. So gross
Ikr, this is why I don’t be overly nice anymore.
gross. Has happened to me with someone. Intensely horrible straight away and gross. (Especially them being 20+ year or so my senior, as well.)
😡 So I needed, so unwanted. Was so annoying because I had just started a new job where he started the second day, and that was it. Luckily he's an 'agency' worker, temporary position. thank goodness, Thank goodness. I haven't seen him since. 🤮
@@RHathemomenthe's moved onto another victim.
Exactly, most people understand common courtesy but some are so deluded that they easily misconstrue kindness as interest…then proceed to think they’re entitled to something more.
Stalking is vile and destroys lives 😢
@nerozero-mp7hdyou need mental health evaluation… it is beyond vile actually.
@nerozero-mp7hdfound the stalker
God this awful, she looks so exhausted bless her, rightly so. I hope she gets the peace soon
He p sees o
I think you are very brave for standing up on TV and talking about it. My stalker is on trial next year and I had to apply for my own injunctions against him because the law didn't help me. So much needs to change.
I hope you got the justice you deserve! So sorry that you had to experience that x
@nerozero-mp7hd that's false
She's sitting down.
this isn't stalking this is called erotomania. a serious mental illness. and it has 3 stages: hope that the relationship is going to happen - depression because the relationship isn't happening - anger and despair. stage 3 the person is succeptible to try to unalive themselves, the other person or both. this is so so so serious her life really is in danger
It actually IS stalking, because that word describes the behaviour. Erotomania is the cause.
Being stalked must be absolutely terrifying
Being stalked is psychological torture
It is.
@nerozero-mp7hdand that’s also stalking.
@nerozero-mp7hd it's emotional torment
@nerozero-mp7hdno it isn't goes beyond that I've been physically stalked aswell not just online & in text
My stalker ended up in Carstairs for the criminal insane as he murdered his girlfriend. Police need to take it more seriously 😢
My stalker stopped after police warned him. I wish all cases were as easy as that
Same girl!!
@@monicashah9732 though I did have one comment from him a couple months later but other than that it’s drastically improved, not had anything for 4 months since then
@@monicashah9732 like all they did was go round to where he lives, warn him what could happen if he continued and he stopped
@@ellie8263how’d uno he was stalking you
My ex husband was stalking and harassing me…police warned him and he stopped. God I got lucky there! Even then I was traumatised for a long time, this POOR woman! 😢
Absolutely terrifying.. It's not fair.. Not enough protection.. I feel for everyone who's been stalked, or being stalked right now.
This is a very serious matter
Thank you captain obvious
@@YG-rr6zv🤣
@@YG-rr6zv He is not Captain Obvious, he is Captain America.
Captain Connor Shield, reporting for duty!!!
Poor woman. I really feel sorry for her. 😔😔
I’ve been stalked by who I now know as my neighbour on 3 occasions. Today (literally) I got a letter from the police saying they’d closed the case. They have CCTV for the first and 3rd time and still they don’t have enough evidence to “prove it” I have never met this man, but he can see my house from his window, follows me close enough to breathe in my ear and waits at the end of my road. Just breaks my heart that this is happening and the victims are no protected. My last communication from the police was that I needed essentially 3-4 more occasions for them to take it seriously again!
Agnetha from ABBA had a similar experience after starting a relationship with a Dutch forklift diver…he stalked her after she wanted to breakup…she had a restraining order but it made no difference…..eventually he was arrested and banned from entering Sweden then when the ban ran out……he was seen near her estate again…..unfortunately no one is safe from a stalker.
Yeah, I heard of that.
I've been stalked and its awful. I never felt physically unsafe though. It must be utterly terrifying for women.
When they start to take this seriously!? Her whole life is destroyed and it could end with victim losing her life!!
If police wont keep him away ...have him took away for good....hes gonna end up doing something bad with her
Shame, this poor woman. I once had a guy who was interested in me and he wouldn't take no for an answer. He wasn't a stalker though and I found it incredibly stressful so I can imagine how stressful this must be.
@@planethoth1238what a silly question to ask. How about because they weren’t interested, that is a valid reason to reject someone…
@@planethoth1238seriously???
Somebody called me on the phone for 5 whole years every singel night, all night long between midnight and 8 in the morning. Then it stopped… never found out who it was..
You have to be careful around men when smiling and being generous, they take it the wrong way
Very true if you pass someone and they smile they just being friendly?no need to read too much in to it maybe
But as a woman if you aren’t friendly and polite to a man, that can trigger violence or hostility too. We can’t win.
I know 3 women who were stalked by men they had had NO INTERACTION WITH. The fact is that some people are sick in the head, and there is no way of preventing yourself from falling victim to them.
This is horrific. Unfortunately, the law never seem to take drastic action until it's too late and only then they admit "lesson's should be learnt". I was stalked and the police didnt care until I was seriously attacked then he got jailed for 13 years
I would be really interested to connect with you and work together towards changing the law? if you see this message I'd be grateful for a reply? I contacted my local MP after I was told that me trying to keep him away from me and attempting to fight to put exclusion zones in place would be a "breach of his human rights" and seen as "restricting his movements" despite the fact I was horrifically assaulted... Once I contacted my local MP I was then granted exclusion zones to ensure my safety when he came out at half time. He was then shortly put back in prison for breach of probation and still currently remains there, but I would very much like to attempt to change the current laws around this as its so outrageous that survivors have to fight for safety ... 😢
I had one for 10 years it got bad i didnt know his name address finally i caught up with him 22 years later sick individual police cudnt do anything bcos no evidence
Sorry to hear that. What made your stalker stopped?
@whatever5026 my letter to him a I outed him on social media he only stopped because his face was exposed
That is terrible poor woman.
it's power because men enjoy having power over women. this is simply one facet of it. it's terrible really.
i wld argue not naturally... cuz movies. religions. cultures brainwash men. b4 those existed we had simple philosophies. being nice to others is being nice to ur self. sorry but stalkers r the product toxic environments and their own traumas. a strong community/family wld fix that. 4 example. if i found out my sister was being stalked. i wld lure him into a quiet spot. then carry out the physical duties with a bro. repeated till desired results r met
Monsters like this guy maybe but not all men do. Not fair to tar everyone with the same brush.
@@jimmyhopkins3589 it's not fair to be on the receiving end of it. most men do it but they do it to varying degrees, even in ways they might not think are controlling.
@@biegebythesea6775most men?
@@biegebythesea6775 so you’ve met most men? Sorry for your experiences but at the end of the day that’s your opinion.
Having been 'stalked' (although not as badly as this poor woman) I was shocked and horrified to find that it is not possible to stop someone leaving voice messages on your mobile no.Yes, you can block them, but they are still able to leave messages, I think this really needs to be reviewed as it is so wrong!!
Have no lessons been learned, laws changed since what happened to that poor girl in Harvey Nichols?
This is so weird,
This reminds me of Baby Reindeer on Netflix which is a true story. A man offered a lady a cup of tea, and that was it.
I hope this lady has protection and finds peace and privacy
Strange Question. Can stalkers love ???
Of course not. What is the definition of love ??
Love is good, kind, compassionate, respectful.
This stalker is everything the opposite. He has no goodness, no kindness, no compassion, no respect for this lady's wishes or privacy.
He is delusional and a lunatic and a danger to society.
I can’t believe that stalker was bothering her as well as harassing her
Why can’t the police just keep him in prison and keep him well away from her
The issue is the law, because the laws arent great they legally cant keep him. If he is no longer committing an act or breaking the law it is unlawful for them to keep him in prison, and even if they can arrest him they can only hold him for so long. You also have the issue where by other than harassing someone he hasnt commit further offences so they can just send him away all the time. Really until he does something harmful to her they can only hold him for breaking any retaining order.
Really shes in a literal nightmare situation, its essentially psychological torture. Im terrified for if she has kids or something. He literally studied everything about her and her life.
I'm the victim of stalking and a couple of weeks ago I looked up an Ant stalking charity...the worst but is it's a relative who is the stalker.
This is so scary. I am glad stalking victims are getting more attention.
I had a stalker. He'd follow me in his car and wait in car parks for me, hed followed me to a club before and pushed me into one of the cubicles. My bf at the time was a police sergeant. He did absolutely nothing to help me, he just picked me up to get me out. Never attempted to arrest him or scare him off. In the end I think he was stalking another girl with a bf. He got sick of him and beat him up and had him put in a wheelchair. I felt bad for him but there's not enough help to protect the stalking victims and there's no psychological help which should be forced upon the stalkers, to protect the public.
That sounds so scary
This is awful, poor woman! Laws need to change, he is clearly unhinged and dangerous
Poor woman, this happened to me with someone I worked with. Not to the extreme that this poor lady went through but I did feel unsafe. He left after a while when I bluntly said to him I wasn’t interested or attracted to him. I literally had to be horrible but I do wish I took it to the police in hindsight. It happened over 10 years ago. I have since moved and haven’t seen him since. More women should feel empowered to report it when it happens. I felt shame at the time, as I thought I led him on in some way but I was just being friendly like I was to everyone in the office.
I recently got sexually harassed for the second time in a year at two different businesses.
The first guy used to know everywhere I went and the second one used to wait until my supervisor left and ambush me alone in the office 😔
He had a list of all the things he “loved” about me. He would cry at his desk next to me and nope around.
It was absolutely full on and no one believed me. He was in his mid to late 50’s and I was only 30.
Did Ronnie not sort him out?
Why isn’t there enough protection for women? She is stressed out so much her hair is thinning. It’s affecting her health severely
Where did she mention her hair was thinning or that it was down to stress? Did I miss something?
@@laadeedahI mean, it’s basic common sense that the poor woman will be stressed
@@JM-eg6wj Yes obviously but there is no evidence her hair has anything to do with that. Seems a bit rude to point out something physical and to diagnose the cause.
She might just naturally have hair on the thinner side. Don’t jump the gun and start commenting on her appearance because it’s rude and she might read these comments.
Just what she needs. An internet stranger commenting on her appearance.
She just needs to give her dad a call and he’ll deal with the stalker.
Her dad could be elderly? This is clearly a dangerous individual who knows he could be carrying a weapon.
@@persephone3309 Ronnie Pickering isn’t that old. About 60 I’d say.
or male family members or male friends even?
@@rhendry5832 Ronnie Pickering is 1000 years old, he uses anti-aging cream to look around 60.
@@50ztej Yeah, her brother could've dealt with the creep...if she has a brother.
Av been getting stalked by a stranger and av had to quit my job and i hqve him on camera on xmas day standing owtside my house and am now on anxiety meds because of it all and dont feel safe owtside or in my own house .
read this book "the gift of fear" by Gavin de Becker
I had a girl steal my identity and stalk me and the police said they couldn't help as she hadn't physically hurt me. It shouldn't need to get to that point for police to step in 😢
She should get her uncle Ronnie to sort him out.
😂😂😂😂😂
Ronnie who?
@@thestarshavefallen Ron Pickering!😮😅
Is tht really her uncle 😂
@@kayleighlou8483 😄 🤣
I think she’s gonna need a restraining order from that stalker and if he comes a few feet near her he will be arrested on the spot
Give it no energy if possible...they love the supply of upsetting you. Indifference they hate.
Stalking, gang stalking literally destroys lives. The laws need modernising.
If the Law fails to protect you then you are justified for taking the Law into your own hands. If the Law fails the former than it cannot justify judging you for the latter!
why hasn't he been given help? this is a psychological problem - love addiction/limerance or psychological problem so that needs to be dealt with.
Thats right make excuses for the one in the wrong.
@@mariewalmsley6143 it's not about "excuses". What he has done is very wrong, it's awful for her, but OP is right that the guy needs psychological treatment and intensive intervention to stop this behaviour in it's tracks. Otherwise he'll do it again and again and again.
@@elliotjohnson9415 absolutely. Saying someone needs help isn’t saying “oh well they’ve got issues so it’s fine”… it’s far from that. Stalkers are far from sane, no one who’s okay mentally would do such a thing. They absolutely need help so that they can get the help they need to turn them into a better person.
I understand that offering psychological help to a stalker is out of the norm… but there’s definitely a reason why this is his pattern of behaviour. He definitely needs help so everyone is safe from this person in the future.
@@SpecialK199 you took the words right out of my mouth!
Sounds like the film play misty for me. He needs to be in committed
My lord 😮 mad man
I was stalked by an ex partner and that was scary enough, he did go to prison for it…but I can’t imagine being stalked by a stranger it must be worse in ways.
RONNIE PICKERING
Lol I thought the same thing 😅
Ronnie Pickering is hot, a lot of women stalk him.
Stalker.. jesus scary as ••••😕
Very sad 😮
I wonder why they didnt sack him immediately.
Go see some travellers and pay them to sort it out. Easy.
That is so embarrassing
I’ve been getting stalked for years but nothing gets done about it I think because I’m a man it’s not taken seriously.
Yet Alex bellfield get 7.5 yrs for email stalking 😂😂
I found his Facebook, wow, the guy is deranged. The messages are creeping me out never mind his victim..
i agree with the comment to get a large dog -or two. Also karate lessons and self defense - this will help if she ever needs to defend herself. Going for indoor and outdoor security and camera so that there is video evidence if he tries to break in. so sorry for this woman's situation and appreciate her speaking up about this.
Such a shame that women have to take these measures to protect themselves
Trying Boxing, Muay Thai Kickboxing and/or Brazilian Jujitsu instead of Karate for this use case. You will send an attacker to the other realm. Great exercise, ood fun, sense of community and keep your brain learning new things. Martial arts is a treasure for all 👍🏼
All children should be taught self defense, it's more important than any sports, especially for women.
Ronnie Pickering would sort him out
Who? 😂
@@Booster85RONNIE PICKERING !
@@Satsusss 😂😂😂😂
Wow not only is this story horrific but so are some of the comments from the nameless people trolling in the comments section. I really feel for this woman. Stalking is really serious and life changing. I hope she can become free of him.
Trolls are always nameless…funny that isn’t it.
Paladin is the National Stalking Advocacy Service. Can they help? The founder has mentioned strangers stalking women on her podcast
Baby Reindeer brought me here.
A serious question . If you have a modern mobile phone etc...there is an option to block people you dont want calling you etc....social media also has option to block people too .....good luck 👍
These people always find loopholes thought. You can block a stalker on anything but they still manage to pop up one way or another. Like she said he bought a phone and called her 2 hours after leaving prison
That wasn’t a question…
@@problem.skinnn True, lol!
I was stalked my brother hung himself so he didn't know my brother but he hung himself and said I don't know know how your brother done this he kept on calling me to a point I couldn't take it no more so I overdosed left me in a wheelchair and his still making fake Facebook profiles and messaging me it's been 4 years
She should move somewhere else like the UAE, safer country, he won't be able to afford to move to her and even if he did, the laws are so strict at the very least he'd be deported and never allowed to return to the country.
That’s quite unrealistic, not everyone can afford to move and run away.
Poor guy must be desperate
I was with a man in staffs he said to me ive seen you putting things together i felt a bit uncomfortable with it he had a hook nose and was dark asain with dry skin but by the time he said anything else he mentioned that all calls are recorded which made me feel better because initially i thought "well what do you mean putting people together thinking back to my elders load then that satisfied me enough to say alright i'm on it if you see my new missus tell her i'm on the bus man licking the seat cover ❤
Wazza's doing really well i asked about him through rickky the other day . On it ❤ massisve shout out to this morning
It's called home self-defense
Is he really that desperate
Had it for 4 yrs 10 months day night ,nothing done by police .I paid the price.
I feel very sorry for what this lady has been through.
Obviously every stalking case is different and the stalker has a category.
I once worked with a guy where a girl in the office tried to paint him as a weird stalker. The truth was that she had a fiance and had been having an affair with the guy in the office. She simply got scared when he fell for her, so she denied the affair and painted a picture. Nasty piece of work.
Not saying that this is the case here of course, which is obviously genuine, but it just shows you what can be the case.
This is why we don't trust men
FEMINIST ALERT!!!!
Have you seen some of the terrible things women have done? can't trust yall either.
Pretty young lady ,i love your shoes x.
Oh this is awful
Careful Dermot, twice you fell into victim blaming language.
What was she wearing?
Like wtaf helloooo baby 😂
WHERES MY UNCLE DAZ
HE IS IN THE SHED, FIXING STUFF.
She she should move away from her area and start a new life
She needs a new identity, different part of the country change appearance don't be on electrol roll
Why should she have to leave her home, job, family and friends?!? He needs to be imprisoned for longer and longer, each time he reoffends.
@@labradormom3656 Yes but hard decisions have to be made to keep people safe personal safety is top priority
Change your number and get a big dog for protection.
As he lives two minutes from her, he most likely will stalk her if she goes out walking the dog. Unfortunately the sad situation is if the police don't do anything to protect her she might have to leave her job and move house.
I didn't say it would stop him ,I said it would help keep her safe.
@@mariewalmsley6143 agreed :)
He’s most likely calling the her place of work’s number. Use your head Marie x
Do you know amount of times people change there number alot and still they find out. Before asking question like just did do your research
Needs to be deported or the men in her family need to deal with him because the Police and judicial system is useless.
her stalker is def ronnie pickering
So you are not interested in him but he is interested in you?
Thats Madness .. cant imagine! Women get your LTC if your state and laws allow it.. restraining orders don't work when it comes to crazy people.. do whatever it takes to protect yourself and your family..
Stalking isnt right.. there are alot of very dangerous women out there though, men have to be very careful in today's age.
That's some haircut
And my ex in law Nabeel Sajjad stalked me on the bury tram
Sorry about that
You have to wonder what’s wrong with these kind of ppl. Don’t they have lives at all? Bizarre. I hope she’ll be ok, this is so scary.
Lack of parenting and home training😂
Her psychologist ?😅😂😂 what is he doing there?
He is explaining the psychology of stalking to educate people
@@EmmaRonan You can't stop Vlad The Impaler from stalking Wallachians!!!
I was stalked by my brother and sister in law misbah after they made mehomelessforcefully and was beaten woman syndrome
Why are u repeating
@@Mel87y who cares why? she's talking about something very seriously and you're worried about duplication. extraordinary how people can ignore abused women.
@@biegebythesea6775 Don't always believe people, especially on the Internet
I read a book about this. The only thing you can do is NOT RESPOND. Ignore. Ignore. Ignore. He will get tired and go away. Too many women are found murdered by men with restraining orders on them already. Ignore them. Do not respond.
@WhiteRabbit556 Which book?
The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker.
Never communicate with them. Ever. That is the only thing that makes them stop. Trust me I know.
I think it's Multicultural because a Rasta down the Road from me told me so...! Mimicking is also Multicultural..!🤔😇👍
I feel sorry for that guy.
Yet when this guy in baby reindeer tells his story, women feel sorry for her and are excuses about MH… they don’t care about when males are victims… very sad
The lips, though.