I love how you guys briefly speculated if Rayleigh has the power to control metal when he stole that money, while the character who can ACTUALLY do it was literally in the same room 😂
"i'd say your powers are the weirdest" Kid says to the rubberman and not to the guy with a alive severed head. How for One Piece at a time: Doflamingo's Jolly Roger is actually in the main stage of the slave house, most people just forget the mark by now so it still suprises people.
Fun fact way back in Orange Town, Buggy's Flashback, when he's arguing with Shanks about the Poles, the man who brakes them up has stubble in the same pattern as Rayleigh's beard here. He's the same guy but with an early design. :)
everyone has the same reaction when they get to this scene. luffy: ok. gum gum balloon. oldie but a goodie. kidd: magnets. interesting. law: WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!?
The "oh no we can't stop her in time" is bullshit. In the manga that line does not exist and you can clearly see that the SH were preparing and aren't super concerned, they would have stopped her in time, it's just that Rayleigh got there first. It's once again a line added for dramatic purpose that's unbelievably stupid considering not only are Usopp and Zoro prepared to attack at range and not particularly concerned but Robin is there and her speed is basically instantaneous regadless of range (and in the manga she is in fact shown preparing herself to take the Celestial Dragon girl down). Same thing with Franky finding the key although they didn't change that in the anime at least, the SH would have saved her with no issue. Rayleigh was in fact selective, otherwise some of the SH would have at least felt faint like some of the members of the other pirate crews, that's why Rayleigh apologised to Kidd and Law, if he'd known they were pirate he wouldn't have targeted them. Law and Kidd's crew didn't faint but they definitely felt it, the SH probably wouldn't have either, but some would definitely have gotten dizzy.
Regarding the discussion about feeling the big moments more at this point in the story, speaking for myself and i assume a lot of older viewers: we read or watched these moments when we were younger and a little more excitable, so the first watch was different. After that we came back and saw these moments with the added context of further story development and world building, so we gained even more appreciation. So the early arcs are great, but they also get enhanced by context and your personal state of mind :)
@@cracker7046 yes but luffy sold his stuff Now that I met you I will never lose my friends again etc . After meeting kuzan so this lead them to thnik he can handle kuzan now . Its luffy fault
Saying you have "higher standards" is a bit egotistical, different standards maybe, but there are plenty of harsh critics that liked and disliked different parts than you.
One cool fact about Rayleigh Shanks and Buggy is that during the flashback of Buggy getting his fruit they are seen in their pirate ship. At the time it is likely that Oda didn't connect Shanks and Buggy to Roger yet so the only character that we see there was Rayleigh young (without white hair). His character design did change quite a bit but you can recognize him (it's episode 8, the guy who hit Shanks and Buggy to stop them from fighting).
Oda said in an SBS he told the animation team for the anime to make sure no-one called the guy "captain", so he must have known something at the time. The anime then proceeded to mess Rayleigh's design up though, so they clearly weren't listening too hard (in the manga there isn't much of a change, he looks practically the same).
oh Oda at the very least msut have had some ideas, cause he amde sure to let them know to avoid having anyone call Rayleigh Captain at the time, because, well, he wasn't the captain.
Funny, how people experience One piece different. At first I didn't liked it that much, cause of the artstyle, but watching more different Anime and reading mangas, I love One piece even more, cause it's not that predictable, the style grew on me and the world is so much more alive.
You don't have to worry, law's power is just spatial manipulation. Not gory, "lighter than in the manga" or anything. Explaining it more in depth isn't really a spoiler but saying everything it can do would be.
About 'standards' - I think it's just that people take different amounts of time to adjust to what One Piece is as a story. The 'hyper-critical' types take more, because their expectations are more deeply engrained. Once you realize the creative license Oda takes; his primary themes, worldbuilding and character traits, you learn to release the expectations you might have of other shows. And accept One Piece for what it is; a completely unique piece of fiction in a world of copy-cats. To me, it's all about fun, friendship and freedom.
There's a difference between Navy HQ and "Land of the Gods" Marijoa. Navy HQ in in the Tub Current with Enis Lobby and Impel Down. Examples so far: Where Garp took Koby/Helmeppo, where most conversations with Sengoku/Garp/the Admirals happen. Marijoa is the one on top of the Red Line. Examples so far: the Five Elder's conversation, Sengoku's meeting with the Warlords, Cobra/Vivi's meeting with Wapol and other Kings, where the Celestial Dragons come from. Sabaody is close to both Navy HQ and Marijoa. The Tub current is quite big actually. I think one of the "sides" of the Florian triangle is probably just the Tub current. But also remember they had to use the Sea Train to get to Enis Lobby, it's not *that* close to Water Seven.
You'll be happy to know (and this ain't a spoiler because he's so insignificant and this is the only time he's ever seen again) that Disco the slave-auctioneer becomes completely destitute and is last seen in a chapter cover homeless and drowning his sorrows by the river.
The one thing i absolutely hate about the one piece fandom is how they're unable to not spoil things for others and you can see it again in these comments
This whole Sabaody arc is really peak OP, I'm at episode +1000 and this arc you're watching still holds up and I remember it with very strong emotions still! Definitely one of the top arcs of OP ever!
I thought I had “higher standards” than most people too, 15:44 But One Piece TV came out in ‘99 & I only saw it in 2020 w/c meant I didn't have the hq vision & openness to creativity I thought I had for exploring stories. But the genius creator of Slam Dunk *read* ch. 1 of One Piece in 1997 & said that it's the only manga in that year that caught his attention because the author had vision & great potential. This means REALLY special people like Inoue-sensei can detect GREAT series at its infant stage... While people like us who think we have “higher” standards in stories, needed clout and trends to see the vision of One Piece. 😅😅😅 For context I'm a fan (childhood) of HxH, Fullmetal Alchemist, YYH, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, Vandread, Berserk, Slam Dunk, Eva, Parasyte, Claymore, etc, & loved *newer animes* like Naruto 2004, Death Note, Code Geass, Bleach.. and enjoy “newest ones” like AOT, JJK, OPM, etc. not counting manga like Black Butler, Haikyuu etc, so I know I really have high standards.. imagine OG ONE PIECE FANS, from 1999... Those people really had the spirit of freedom to explore unchartered territory, while I was watching Ippo or HxH (I saw these in 2003?), they stuck with crazy Luffy and One Piece.
Carson and Lindsay obviously took a page from Zoro and erased the memory of the *embarrassing* ass beating Aokiji gave the whole Monster Trio single-handedly back before Water 7, lol
its because of luffy in ennies lobby he said he will no longer lose any of his crew and will be able to stay with them now that he got his new gears and dude just fought kuzan so everyone think he can handle him now ..
I personally don't need big moments to enjoy a series! From the first 2-3 episodes I liked Luffy, zoro, coby and I got hooked , my motivation to keep binging had ups and lows at points, but it never occurred to me if I would drop it! I think One piece is always enjoyable, good or not is obviously subjective and debatable.
4:31 Good thing Robin was with Usopp, so he didn't need to ask to be more specific. 25:43 You know, if Shakky did her math right about Ray being 100 times stronger than the Supernovas, one has to be beyond pitiful to be knocked out by ANYONE's Haki. 30:11 Quite a few characters like Yato, Arararagi and Levi. But if you weren't familiar with anyone I mentioned, Hiroshi Kamiya is the voice actor, if you want to check it out yourselves.
Oda didn’t make Kid’s and Law’s devil fruits vague AT ALL. He actually fleshed them out completely this time around. What you see is exactly what their power is and when you understand or it’s explained, it is consistent and makes sense!
Garp never said he was going, i don't know why they still think that lol. he's only hiding the info that rayleigh is there to not make the WG waste troops and prepare for WB.
IDK if it's about standards. Even though I'm extremely picky too. "I Want to Live" and Going Merry's funeral are still among my top favorite moments from the entire series. That made it my favorite story. But then again, I'd say even you guys were more invested into OP than me, prior to W7. But W7/EL just hit way more for me personally. More than most of the things in any story ever. Different scenes & arcs hit different for different people. Still, soooo much peak to come for you guys. Despite later pacing getting kinda rough in the anime because they almost caught up to the manga.
Loved you guys' discussion mid way through. The thing about One Piece for me is that it definitely has its highs and lows. I wouldn't say the progression of quality is always linear for each arc that passes. However, there is a story that One Piece follows that keeps unfolding as you go on, and while the build up for things may be long at times, I absolutely think the pay off is worth it each time something new is revealed. Sabaody is my favorite arc in the entire show; it's the one that sold me on sticking with the journey to the very end. Like you two, I enjoyed every arc before it for different reasons - I loved the story, but I didn't truly become a OP fan until Sabaody. One Piece has its flaws like every other show - Oda is not perfect - so there are definitely some moments that I do not enjoy. People have already warned you about the anime's pacing in later arcs so I won't get into that. But One Piece's story is enthralling, and the worldbuilding is unrivaled, and it's what gets me so invested. I love OP for other personal reasons, but as someone who's caught up to the manga, I'm more excited than ever for what's to come. Where the *anime* currently is rivals my love for Sabaody (and maybe it'll exceed it if the anime does the rest justice). Every new moment you watch sheds light on things of the past. Hope you guys continue to enjoy the ride!
7:50 There's a reason they always run away from the Marines it's because numbers will eventually exhaust and overwhelm them, you guys have have been underestimating the Marines and World Government since Enies Lobby and that was only a few hundred of em which STILL forced em to run.
😭 Kazuki Yao aka Franky/Bon Clay/Jango has stepped down recently from voicing these characters due to health issues. Thank You for your SUPER services all these years. ✌🤟🙏
Actually Oda did said he regretted introduce crocodile too early. Crocodile is actually really strong, that's why Luffy got defeated 2 times to show how strong he is. Luffy just got lucky (plot armor). 1st. Robin saved him 2nd. The water fall on him
Tbf, planting the seeds for fans to accept Robin as a Straw Hat because she saved Luffy, twice, isn't something I'd consider as plot armor. She's a good person and it was meant to show that. On top of the fact that Luffy ALWAYS needs help from others; his whole thing is that he absolutely relies on others because he views that as a strength (it is)
The best description I’ve seen of Law’s power here is that (among other things) it’s a little like the chop chop fruit except it works on other people and not himself. Well, and they don’t retain control over their body parts.
Many rivals we met are kinda pretty other side of the coin like our protogonist. Croc, Buggy, Moria had same ambitions but were unlucky with fate. Kid and Law also near to Luffy from all other supernovas. That's why they can intuitively decide who's the "weirdest" among of them...
Trust me your gonna be more invested as time's goes on sometimes u need to dwell on things to full understand it also i recommend you watching theory and indepth character analysis video cause you may think luffy is just a dumb strong dude but hes character is very very well written he's ghe best mc both in writing and action u should go watch an indepth analysis of luffy
The supernova free-for-all starts now! 😁 Also, about the OP standards thing.... I'd say it's completely subjective, really. Personally, I got hooked on the manga fairly early on (pretty much from the beginning, more or less), but that's just me. But that being said, in my experience following the series and its fandom, most folks didn't get hooked until Water 7 or later. Actually, it's funny for me to see these types of discussion now, because around this time 20 years ago, OP was barely a blip on the radars of most overseas anime fans, lol. It was Naruto and Bleach that had everyone's attention back then. Amazing how different things are now....
To answer your question about Ep 398, from 28:46 onwards (in this video) are anime additions that aren't part of the source material. If I must reason on the cheery music usage, I'd say its because Toei wants to end the episode on a cathartic power trip for the viewers, and the music choice would further this.
17:00 For me I would explain the One Piece "gets good" part like so: It takes 60 episodes to get going, 230 to "get good" and once you have made it to 400 you get to the peak of One Piece. And from this point it will only get higher!
Law is literally a God inside his room as long as his opponent don't have strong haki than him. Also Doffy talking about smiles this early i almost forgot that 😂.
*Spoiler* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I think Franky didn't pay attention that much when Roger meet with Tom in W7? I forgot but I remember he's busy with his battleship and he only talked to Oden and mentioned his pirates parent abandoned him so he didn't interest in pirates.
I think that a lot of people share your experience, really; this is the point where most people really sat up and took notice. It's just that we can look at the earlier arcs with hindsight, and with the knowledge of what lies behind a lot of what is going on. Also, quite honestly, the anime drags down the story at several points and for manga readers that's not an issue. The story from now on will continue to get better, but the anime, sadly, will get significantly worse. And it will get worse in all the little ways that it is already failing, so what will happen is a sort of boiled frog effect where you feel more and more tedium as you watch and a lot more annoyance with the characters withouth quite being able to put your finger on exactly why. The highs are still great, but it'll be a slog to get to them.
Trust me the op community complains about everything. Just not in reactor comment sections. I think it’s a bit pretentious to say it’s bc of higher standards. I don’t think you meant it that way so no harm but I think you could phrase it better. There are plenty of people who like you liked the series but they didn’t love it until now or even later. I hope you don’t talk down to your audience on accident in the future.
I'm glad you noticed Hawkin's ability is total bs...he foresees he isn't gonna die then he's dismembered, captured, enslaved or his crew is obliterated
When you talked about crocodile being weak I really can't object to that since it's what it's shown to us to this point but being someone that is following the weakly manga i have a head cannon that he was using his devil fruit powers to the max (Don't want to spoil so i will leave it at that) to not let rain in whole Alabasta, which is pretty big, so when he fought Luffy he wasn't in his 100% strength, tho that's not really said anywhere just a theory
I think a big reason why you guys aren’t as invested in One Piece as most of the fans is because of the way the anime is paced. It isn’t as snappy as in the manga so a lot of moments that normally have a lot more impact can fall a bit flat. A lot of One Piece fans got into it as relatively new anime fans so they didn’t have an idea or expectations on the more technical side of storytelling and pacing etc (me included). Thats why I always recommend One Pace because it 1 million percent will enhance your enjoyment of the show. One piece is genuinely a masterpiece when everything is done right, even in this adaptation. PS: I don’t think you guys have particularly higher standards than most anime fans btw. The shows you guys like are relatively in line with what most anime fans enjoy too.
@@DeadMan03 one pace enhanced my enjoyment of the show so much more man. Post-[spoiler] was literally unwatchable for me. After I switched over to One Pace I was finding myself unable to stop watching again. Have you seen it?
With Rayleigh complimenting the crews for withstanding his Haki, saying they must be strong, that really shows that even the 'weaker' Straw Hats, like Nami and Ussop, are actually quite strong. Don't worry if you can't figure out Law's abilities. Even by One Piece standards, his Devil Fruit is odd and not intuitive in figuring it out at first look.
You have yo consider that you are watching this like one or two decades later, before shingeki no kyojin, before jujutsu kaisen, you probably have being comparing one piece with something more recent. Try yo take into account which anime existed at that time and all this will be even more impactful
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I love how you guys briefly speculated if Rayleigh has the power to control metal when he stole that money, while the character who can ACTUALLY do it was literally in the same room 😂
red haired KID you say right 😂 its true bro
"i'd say your powers are the weirdest"
Kid says to the rubberman and not to the guy with a alive severed head.
How for One Piece at a time:
Doflamingo's Jolly Roger is actually in the main stage of the slave house, most people just forget the mark by now so it still suprises people.
More like silly
Hm
And it’s a bit similar to Law’s
it was referenced many times that the fruit gomu gomu no mi is weird
SPOILERS:
i guess we now know why
Doflamingo´s Jolly Roger was also shown during Jaya's arc; Bellamy´s gang showed it along with their own Jolly Roger.
21:24 one piece in a nutshell , " garp , it's your family again"
soooooooo true lol asf
“It’s all about SMILEs now.”
That sounds interesting 🤔
I wonder if this is important?! wink wink~
Such a DC Joker line
That is actually insane. Every reaction video I watch for this episode, I have the same reaction
@@cxncxrtmxstxr It would be SAD if they have already forgotten about those details in the future.
Fun fact way back in Orange Town, Buggy's Flashback, when he's arguing with Shanks about the Poles, the man who brakes them up has stubble in the same pattern as Rayleigh's beard here. He's the same guy but with an early design. :)
You mean 20 years younger
It was animators mistake not early design. Same as marco and jozu in whitebeard introduction
everyone has the same reaction when they get to this scene.
luffy: ok. gum gum balloon. oldie but a goodie.
kidd: magnets. interesting.
law: WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!?
I know I love that HAHSDHFHAS
The "oh no we can't stop her in time" is bullshit. In the manga that line does not exist and you can clearly see that the SH were preparing and aren't super concerned, they would have stopped her in time, it's just that Rayleigh got there first. It's once again a line added for dramatic purpose that's unbelievably stupid considering not only are Usopp and Zoro prepared to attack at range and not particularly concerned but Robin is there and her speed is basically instantaneous regadless of range (and in the manga she is in fact shown preparing herself to take the Celestial Dragon girl down). Same thing with Franky finding the key although they didn't change that in the anime at least, the SH would have saved her with no issue.
Rayleigh was in fact selective, otherwise some of the SH would have at least felt faint like some of the members of the other pirate crews, that's why Rayleigh apologised to Kidd and Law, if he'd known they were pirate he wouldn't have targeted them. Law and Kidd's crew didn't faint but they definitely felt it, the SH probably wouldn't have either, but some would definitely have gotten dizzy.
Fax
Regarding the discussion about feeling the big moments more at this point in the story, speaking for myself and i assume a lot of older viewers: we read or watched these moments when we were younger and a little more excitable, so the first watch was different. After that we came back and saw these moments with the added context of further story development and world building, so we gained even more appreciation. So the early arcs are great, but they also get enhanced by context and your personal state of mind :)
Title should be " Captain Usopp takes out celestial dragons " or " Doflamingo puts an end to slavery" or "3 pirates beat up innocent marines"
Morgans? Is that you?
Someone is underestimating the admirals
el no sabe
New reactors always do at this point lol
fr like they forgot what kuzan did to luffy earlier lmao. yeah he has 2nd and 3rd gear now but that ain’t shit
@@cracker7046 yes but luffy sold his stuff Now that I met you I will never lose my friends again etc . After meeting kuzan so this lead them to thnik he can handle kuzan now . Its luffy fault
Everyone did at this point lol. Having the same unwarranted confidence as the Straw Hats is how you are supposed imo while watching this
"Its all about the smiles now"
Hmmmm....Oda u sneaky mf 😅💀
omfg lmao
Little did we know. ODA YOU MANIAC😭😭
ODA, you MAD man, spare us the SAD twist and give us some SMILE.
Saying you have "higher standards" is a bit egotistical, different standards maybe, but there are plenty of harsh critics that liked and disliked different parts than you.
Yeag
Doflamingo talking about smiles this early is insane.
30:12 same VA as Levi from attack on titan
law came early ig😂
One cool fact about Rayleigh Shanks and Buggy is that during the flashback of Buggy getting his fruit they are seen in their pirate ship. At the time it is likely that Oda didn't connect Shanks and Buggy to Roger yet so the only character that we see there was Rayleigh young (without white hair). His character design did change quite a bit but you can recognize him (it's episode 8, the guy who hit Shanks and Buggy to stop them from fighting).
Oda said in an SBS he told the animation team for the anime to make sure no-one called the guy "captain", so he must have known something at the time.
The anime then proceeded to mess Rayleigh's design up though, so they clearly weren't listening too hard (in the manga there isn't much of a change, he looks practically the same).
oh Oda at the very least msut have had some ideas, cause he amde sure to let them know to avoid having anyone call Rayleigh Captain at the time, because, well, he wasn't the captain.
@@IamGrimalkin Yeah I had to double check the episode and clearly it wasn't as faithful as I remembered since I'm a manga reader.
Funny, how people experience One piece different. At first I didn't liked it that much, cause of the artstyle, but watching more different Anime and reading mangas, I love One piece even more, cause it's not that predictable, the style grew on me and the world is so much more alive.
We get it. You're the villain in Ratatouille. Then you tasted one piece.
You don't have to worry, law's power is just spatial manipulation. Not gory, "lighter than in the manga" or anything.
Explaining it more in depth isn't really a spoiler but saying everything it can do would be.
Just say there is no censorship
About 'standards' - I think it's just that people take different amounts of time to adjust to what One Piece is as a story. The 'hyper-critical' types take more, because their expectations are more deeply engrained. Once you realize the creative license Oda takes; his primary themes, worldbuilding and character traits, you learn to release the expectations you might have of other shows. And accept One Piece for what it is; a completely unique piece of fiction in a world of copy-cats. To me, it's all about fun, friendship and freedom.
Yeah fk the rules
30:12 The VA for Trafalgar Law also voices "Levi" if you've seen Attack On Titan.
He also voices Takeda-sensei from Haikyuu and many more!! :D
I’m happy you guys are enjoying Sabaody, it literally is fire the entire arc ! Short and sweet 🔥
Laws VA also voices captain Levi, Takeda (haikyu) , Ego ( bluelock) etc...
Law's Devil Fruit is literally OP😅
op op
no mi
There's a difference between Navy HQ and "Land of the Gods" Marijoa.
Navy HQ in in the Tub Current with Enis Lobby and Impel Down. Examples so far: Where Garp took Koby/Helmeppo, where most conversations with Sengoku/Garp/the Admirals happen.
Marijoa is the one on top of the Red Line. Examples so far: the Five Elder's conversation, Sengoku's meeting with the Warlords, Cobra/Vivi's meeting with Wapol and other Kings, where the Celestial Dragons come from.
Sabaody is close to both Navy HQ and Marijoa. The Tub current is quite big actually. I think one of the "sides" of the Florian triangle is probably just the Tub current. But also remember they had to use the Sea Train to get to Enis Lobby, it's not *that* close to Water Seven.
At the start of Sabaody they showed Kuma with Sengoku and Garp and it said Mari Joa iirc
@royalfun1031 Oh it did? I must have misremembered that then.
You'll be happy to know (and this ain't a spoiler because he's so insignificant and this is the only time he's ever seen again) that Disco the slave-auctioneer becomes completely destitute and is last seen in a chapter cover homeless and drowning his sorrows by the river.
and its implied his auction house is completely bankrupt
Oda really wanted this man to suffer, and he was right for it
The one thing i absolutely hate about the one piece fandom is how they're unable to not spoil things for others and you can see it again in these comments
Ye
They just want to feel special knowing what will happen
I don't think they read the YT comments, and the people on the Patreon are alot better with spoilers than here
@YetiCoolBrother I dunno but I've seen them reply and like some comments in the past
For those who might not have seen it, that giant is named Stansen.
pretty relevant information now
He looks small here
Please remind me something more about this guy, have we seen him somewhere?
@@Tanish_Popalkar spoiler for manga:
He comes back in Elbaf,
he is a part of hajrudin's crew and hence a part of straw hat grand fleet'
This whole Sabaody arc is really peak OP, I'm at episode +1000 and this arc you're watching still holds up and I remember it with very strong emotions still!
Definitely one of the top arcs of OP ever!
I thought I had “higher standards” than most people too, 15:44 But One Piece TV came out in ‘99 & I only saw it in 2020 w/c meant I didn't have the hq vision & openness to creativity I thought I had for exploring stories. But the genius creator of Slam Dunk *read* ch. 1 of One Piece in 1997 & said that it's the only manga in that year that caught his attention because the author had vision & great potential. This means REALLY special people like Inoue-sensei can detect GREAT series at its infant stage... While people like us who think we have “higher” standards in stories, needed clout and trends to see the vision of One Piece. 😅😅😅
For context I'm a fan (childhood) of HxH, Fullmetal Alchemist, YYH, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, Vandread, Berserk, Slam Dunk, Eva, Parasyte, Claymore, etc, & loved *newer animes* like Naruto 2004, Death Note, Code Geass, Bleach.. and enjoy “newest ones” like AOT, JJK, OPM, etc. not counting manga like Black Butler, Haikyuu etc, so I know I really have high standards.. imagine OG ONE PIECE FANS, from 1999... Those people really had the spirit of freedom to explore unchartered territory, while I was watching Ippo or HxH (I saw these in 2003?), they stuck with crazy Luffy and One Piece.
Carson and Lindsay obviously took a page from Zoro and erased the memory of the *embarrassing* ass beating Aokiji gave the whole Monster Trio single-handedly back before Water 7, lol
its because of luffy in ennies lobby he said he will no longer lose any of his crew and will be able to stay with them now that he got his new gears and dude just fought kuzan so everyone think he can handle him now ..
I personally don't need big moments to enjoy a series! From the first 2-3 episodes I liked Luffy, zoro, coby and I got hooked , my motivation to keep binging had ups and lows at points, but it never occurred to me if I would drop it! I think One piece is always enjoyable, good or not is obviously subjective and debatable.
Hm
Same
I can't believe someone would attack a super rich guy on the street like that...that never happens irl
Rob em
Ha I get the reference
That was a great entrance from "D"ark King Rayleigh 🖤🔥😅
26:35 And, just like that began the greatest rivalry of the entire One Piece series!
The worst generation!!!
Rivalry my ass
Rivalry is from Jaya
4:31 Good thing Robin was with Usopp, so he didn't need to ask to be more specific.
25:43 You know, if Shakky did her math right about Ray being 100 times stronger than the Supernovas, one has to be beyond pitiful to be knocked out by ANYONE's Haki.
30:11 Quite a few characters like Yato, Arararagi and Levi. But if you weren't familiar with anyone I mentioned, Hiroshi Kamiya is the voice actor, if you want to check it out yourselves.
Nah being weaker than them aint bad
Usopp knows
Oda didn’t make Kid’s and Law’s devil fruits vague AT ALL. He actually fleshed them out completely this time around. What you see is exactly what their power is and when you understand or it’s explained, it is consistent and makes sense!
Holding an opinion /expectation does not make it "higher". Believing your own b.s. is not a unique character trait.
Yeah
Garp never said he was going, i don't know why they still think that lol.
he's only hiding the info that rayleigh is there to not make the WG waste troops and prepare for WB.
Many ppl think that
I can kinda see why, since Garp said "I'll handle it" or something similar (about Rayleigh situation)
But yeah, it's a little annoying...
IDK if it's about standards. Even though I'm extremely picky too. "I Want to Live" and Going Merry's funeral are still among my top favorite moments from the entire series. That made it my favorite story. But then again, I'd say even you guys were more invested into OP than me, prior to W7. But W7/EL just hit way more for me personally. More than most of the things in any story ever. Different scenes & arcs hit different for different people. Still, soooo much peak to come for you guys. Despite later pacing getting kinda rough in the anime because they almost caught up to the manga.
Loved you guys' discussion mid way through. The thing about One Piece for me is that it definitely has its highs and lows. I wouldn't say the progression of quality is always linear for each arc that passes. However, there is a story that One Piece follows that keeps unfolding as you go on, and while the build up for things may be long at times, I absolutely think the pay off is worth it each time something new is revealed. Sabaody is my favorite arc in the entire show; it's the one that sold me on sticking with the journey to the very end. Like you two, I enjoyed every arc before it for different reasons - I loved the story, but I didn't truly become a OP fan until Sabaody. One Piece has its flaws like every other show - Oda is not perfect - so there are definitely some moments that I do not enjoy. People have already warned you about the anime's pacing in later arcs so I won't get into that. But One Piece's story is enthralling, and the worldbuilding is unrivaled, and it's what gets me so invested. I love OP for other personal reasons, but as someone who's caught up to the manga, I'm more excited than ever for what's to come. Where the *anime* currently is rivals my love for Sabaody (and maybe it'll exceed it if the anime does the rest justice). Every new moment you watch sheds light on things of the past. Hope you guys continue to enjoy the ride!
Sabaody sets it off
7:50 There's a reason they always run away from the Marines it's because numbers will eventually exhaust and overwhelm them, you guys have have been underestimating the Marines and World Government since Enies Lobby and that was only a few hundred of em which STILL forced em to run.
You are correct. Impel Down, Navy HQ and Enies Lobby are all connected.
By now you probably figured out that the VA for Law is also the VA for Levy from AOT
😭 Kazuki Yao aka Franky/Bon Clay/Jango has stepped down recently from voicing these characters due to health issues. Thank You for your SUPER services all these years. ✌🤟🙏
Doflamingo says now the business is SMILES. That's something important later.
KING of Shonen!!!!
Fiction
“Its all about SMILES” dont you dare forget
Marine ford croc hearing the disrespect😈
Let him commence
Bruh, One Piece has been great since Chouchou.
Y’all seem to be underestimating the admirals lol just remember what kuzan did to luffy
Actually Oda did said he regretted introduce crocodile too early. Crocodile is actually really strong, that's why Luffy got defeated 2 times to show how strong he is. Luffy just got lucky (plot armor).
1st. Robin saved him
2nd. The water fall on him
He's still my #1 favorite villain even after being caught up,
nothing sends shivers down your spine like "Hisashiburidana Mugiwara", lol.
Can you provide a source for that?
Tbf, planting the seeds for fans to accept Robin as a Straw Hat because she saved Luffy, twice, isn't something I'd consider as plot armor. She's a good person and it was meant to show that. On top of the fact that Luffy ALWAYS needs help from others; his whole thing is that he absolutely relies on others because he views that as a strength (it is)
@@JackSmith-m2jinterview but I don't know which one
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The best description I’ve seen of Law’s power here is that (among other things) it’s a little like the chop chop fruit except it works on other people and not himself. Well, and they don’t retain control over their body parts.
Just basic use
Sabaody is one of the best arcs of One Piece by far. But it's kinda underrated, you rarely see people praising it as much as Water 7/Enies Lobby
Rayleigh: Ive been waiting to meet you Monkey D. Luffy. My favorite apprentice... Buggy, told me about you. And I will avenge him
Many rivals we met are kinda pretty other side of the coin like our protogonist. Croc, Buggy, Moria had same ambitions but were unlucky with fate. Kid and Law also near to Luffy from all other supernovas. That's why they can intuitively decide who's the "weirdest" among of them...
You can't predict what's coming, and neither could any of us😉 I salute Oda sensei's genius.
Water 7 was my real point of being hooked
So much to come still
Just so you guys know, Trafalgar Law's VA is Levi Ackermann's VA. Legend
Luffy punched celestial dragon but Usopp sat on them.😂
Kick by Sanji
Your guys apparent sense of superiority reminds me of stuff I learned in history class.
Hitler moment
Black beard is definitely gonna be much more helpful in the battle .
Net negative
Croc>
Trust me your gonna be more invested as time's goes on sometimes u need to dwell on things to full understand it also i recommend you watching theory and indepth character analysis video cause you may think luffy is just a dumb strong dude but hes character is very very well written he's ghe best mc both in writing and action u should go watch an indepth analysis of luffy
Not now
@@royalfun1031they are gonna look back and realized it was the greatest journey they ever had ( reference to the Rayleigh it's just so peak meme )
i just realized now the girl has one eye more dark than the other
BTW after 25 years franky, bon clay and Jango VA is stepping down from voicing T-T
I never noticed. She has 2 different colors eyes? Thats beautiful!
the podcaster ?
I notice that a while ago. First thought my phone has a problem
now i can't not notice that every reaction
If you guys re-watch episode 8 first two minutes you'll see young Rayleigh 😂😂😂
The supernova free-for-all starts now! 😁
Also, about the OP standards thing.... I'd say it's completely subjective, really. Personally, I got hooked on the manga fairly early on (pretty much from the beginning, more or less), but that's just me. But that being said, in my experience following the series and its fandom, most folks didn't get hooked until Water 7 or later. Actually, it's funny for me to see these types of discussion now, because around this time 20 years ago, OP was barely a blip on the radars of most overseas anime fans, lol. It was Naruto and Bleach that had everyone's attention back then. Amazing how different things are now....
What is good in one piece. Is in one place , you can get many things happened, good for building deep and long story as a set up for main conflict
I am so ready for you guys to be not ready.
big love!~ always appreciate the reactions!~
Thriller bark catching strays out of nowhere is so funny to me
Wasnt
To answer your question about Ep 398, from 28:46 onwards (in this video) are anime additions that aren't part of the source material. If I must reason on the cheery music usage, I'd say its because Toei wants to end the episode on a cathartic power trip for the viewers, and the music choice would further this.
17:00 For me I would explain the One Piece "gets good" part like so:
It takes 60 episodes to get going, 230 to "get good" and once you have made it to 400 you get to the peak of One Piece.
And from this point it will only get higher!
Keep Doflimingo's SMILE comment very close.
As any TellTale game, Oda will remember that.
Law is literally a God inside his room as long as his opponent don't have strong haki than him.
Also Doffy talking about smiles this early i almost forgot that 😂.
We so close to the conclusion guys hype them up 😂😂😂
Franky knew Roger for sure, in the manga they spoke when he was a young apprentice under Tom. He should at least recognize Raleigh.
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I think Franky didn't pay attention that much when Roger meet with Tom in W7? I forgot but I remember he's busy with his battleship and he only talked to Oden and mentioned his pirates parent abandoned him so he didn't interest in pirates.
@@luminelumlum You're rigth, it was Oden, not Roger.
People tend to forget that God D. Usopp flattened a Celestial Dragon in that episode.
I think that a lot of people share your experience, really; this is the point where most people really sat up and took notice. It's just that we can look at the earlier arcs with hindsight, and with the knowledge of what lies behind a lot of what is going on. Also, quite honestly, the anime drags down the story at several points and for manga readers that's not an issue.
The story from now on will continue to get better, but the anime, sadly, will get significantly worse. And it will get worse in all the little ways that it is already failing, so what will happen is a sort of boiled frog effect where you feel more and more tedium as you watch and a lot more annoyance with the characters withouth quite being able to put your finger on exactly why. The highs are still great, but it'll be a slog to get to them.
Poor Crocdaddy getting roasted for no reason 😂
CEO of CG
Trafalgar`s VA has a huuuuuuuge amount of roles, depending of what you watched: he is voicing Levi "Attack on titan", for example
Kamiya Hiroshi
law is also voiced by levi ackerman
Trust me the op community complains about everything. Just not in reactor comment sections.
I think it’s a bit pretentious to say it’s bc of higher standards. I don’t think you meant it that way so no harm but I think you could phrase it better.
There are plenty of people who like you liked the series but they didn’t love it until now or even later. I hope you don’t talk down to your audience on accident in the future.
Yeah that aint it
I'm glad you noticed Hawkin's ability is total bs...he foresees he isn't gonna die then he's dismembered, captured, enslaved or his crew is obliterated
What a bozo
Crazy I just finished watching the previous one piece video and got this recommended at 12 seconds 💀
They upload one every other day sometimes they take longer I guess because it goes to patreon first
Just saying this section of 4 arcs are peak one piece
19:47 i'm excited for the both of you 😊🔥💖 also Lindsay is right at the end 😁
Literally thought Carson had his hair frosted there for a second 🤣
This is a bit different.
It's not "1 warship", it's 1 warship with an admiral onboard. (like aokiji) There are more warships.
Remember Doflamingo's words "SMILES". It has deep meaning in future.
laws fruit basically turns other people into buggy. but at his control
Law's voice actor is the same as levi from aot that's why he sounded familiar
It’s all about smiles now! SMILES!
When you talked about crocodile being weak I really can't object to that since it's what it's shown to us to this point but being someone that is following the weakly manga i have a head cannon that he was using his devil fruit powers to the max (Don't want to spoil so i will leave it at that) to not let rain in whole Alabasta, which is pretty big, so when he fought Luffy he wasn't in his 100% strength, tho that's not really said anywhere just a theory
Awakened?
@@royalfun1031 Well yeah, that's what I mean
Law has the same VA as Levi
I think a big reason why you guys aren’t as invested in One Piece as most of the fans is because of the way the anime is paced. It isn’t as snappy as in the manga so a lot of moments that normally have a lot more impact can fall a bit flat. A lot of One Piece fans got into it as relatively new anime fans so they didn’t have an idea or expectations on the more technical side of storytelling and pacing etc (me included). Thats why I always recommend One Pace because it 1 million percent will enhance your enjoyment of the show. One piece is genuinely a masterpiece when everything is done right, even in this adaptation.
PS: I don’t think you guys have particularly higher standards than most anime fans btw. The shows you guys like are relatively in line with what most anime fans enjoy too.
One Pace sucks
One pace is pure garbage it does not enchance anything if anything it makes thing worse
@@DeadMan03 one pace enhanced my enjoyment of the show so much more man. Post-[spoiler] was literally unwatchable for me. After I switched over to One Pace I was finding myself unable to stop watching again. Have you seen it?
@@royalfun1031 why?
Nah, they just want everything to be AoT with a high body count for shock value. Which isn’t “standards”. It’s the opposite. They like hack writing.
Great AD for Kids indeed ❤😂
While no kids should watch these episodes
With Rayleigh complimenting the crews for withstanding his Haki, saying they must be strong, that really shows that even the 'weaker' Straw Hats, like Nami and Ussop, are actually quite strong.
Don't worry if you can't figure out Law's abilities. Even by One Piece standards, his Devil Fruit is odd and not intuitive in figuring it out at first look.
It was targetted but Kid and Law still up
Gotta be a surgeon
You have yo consider that you are watching this like one or two decades later, before shingeki no kyojin, before jujutsu kaisen, you probably have being comparing one piece with something more recent. Try yo take into account which anime existed at that time and all this will be even more impactful
Even now this is unrivalled
Always happy for the new peoples starting to watch one piece ❤❤❤