HOW TO PROPERLY USE A FRICTION SAVER
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- Today we learn how to use a friction saver. We go over the instillation process and the removal process.
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Congratulations friend, you are the only one who shows things down to the smallest detail. Thanks for sharing!
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Absolutely badass. This dude is the man.
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Love these videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and taking the time to create!!
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Great video! Easy to follow and very well filmed. The second angle up in the tree really helped to understand what was going on - please thank the person holding the camera up there for us! 👏👏
Awesome, thank you! This day was cool I had 2 of my sons help out. My oldest son Ben was on the ground and my middle son Noah was in the air. Take care!
Great videos! Very clear explanation on everything. Thanks so much!
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That is a fabulous video....thank you for all the different points of view!
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Great vid. I'm not an arborist but was fascinated to see this system on another vid and couldn't figure out how it worked you did a great job explaining how this "magic" comes together.
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wow Im really digging your videos ! easy to follow and informative, over the years I have noticed that in a hurry while installing a friction saver, I along with co-workers have twisted the strapping so the rings were twisted when installed . just thought I could mention it. it happen a few times LOL we did not know until the friction saver was in the tree haha talks about bugged eye we laughed at each other an then re-set it but the lesson was learned .. Joe from California
I'm glad your enjoying the videos! We'r having a good time making them.
This is the best demo I have seen of this process. Great job!
Wow, thank you!
I go back and watch this video often just to stay fresh- thanks and good video.
Awesome! Thank you!
Really like the way you demonstrate things thoroughly. Thanks Bino.
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Great information, thanks for sharing God bless. Too the point video no extra I personally love it!
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Thanks Bino the more I learn the safer I am.. I always learn something new from your videos.
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Excellent instruction! thanks!
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Excellent reference!! 👍
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Just because he is showing that friction saver on his video now I want to get that particular one ... LoL 🤣👍
Nice!
Excellent instructional video thanks
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thank you
You are a very good teacher!
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Bino, enjoy your videos. Good job. I have the same double-ring FS. I also have the conduit and leather FSs. I've found that the conduit and leather friction savers are so much easier to set. This is especially true if you have to double bag to isolate a limb.
Thank you and thanks for sharing!
very clear and well explain.
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Nice and simple video i liked it
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Great video Bino.
Thank you!
Merci pour votre parfaite démonstration! Another advantage of your idea is that you can leave the string in the branch to anchor later without throwing the bag again!
Thank you for sharing!
I've been climbing for awhile, and at school I saw the set up a the cambium saver from the ground once. I had no idea how they did it. Now that I'm on my own, I've been setting up from the ground, climbing up, and then installing my cambium saver. Thank you. I've been avoiding purchasing a throw line for lack of money, but apparently I need it. Thank you. simple video, clear and straight to the point. Just what I love.
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@@BinoH you're welcome. Can't wait to reach this to put it into practice!
Thanks for the great videos Bino. Your knowledge and patience make you an excellent teacher! I really enjoy what you do.
Thank you I appreciate that! Take care!
Excellent Vid. Thank you. : )
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invaluable, thank you very much!
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Very cool. 😊
Thanks!
Great video! Super helpful for us rookies.
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@@BinoH Welcome Bino! Looking forward to learing more from you.
@@kenveal5529 Thank you!
Great videos
Glad you think so!
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Nicely done
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Excelente video y muy claro , aunque no entienda inglés 🫵🏻😎, saludos desde chile
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Nice job
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I whip a figure 8 loop into the sheath of my rope at the ends of my climb rope. I cut out about 2 inches of the core and jamb the figure 8 into the core. I use a whipping on the full rope before the cut core and then use a terminal whipping after the figure 8 to capture the knot inside the sheath of the rope. This way there is a loop extending from the tip of my rope. I use thin paracord 1/16th or 3/32nd diameter. This allows me to run my rope smoothly through any set up.
If you have a long throw line (200ft) you can feed the shot end through the big ring before the throw over the tree. Just pull plenty line through first. Then you don't have to find the far end of the line. ♡
True good tip!
Thanks Bino
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Nice video
Thanks
Can you wrap it twice around a branch if you need it to be shortened
😮 Wow!...
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Thnx Bino
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Can you wrap it around twice to shorten it and still retrieve it?
What size are the rings. Thanks
awsome vid , thanks
Thank you!
Hi Bino, any suggestions to improve the sharp bending radius around the rings?
There are some friction savers with one pulley . that could help. With your body weight, the rings are enough though.
What material and size is your throw line? Love your videos, I have learned so much from your presentation. It is good to see that larger guys can climb too :-)
Thank you, Here it is (Samson Zing-it is made from high-strength Dynema having 560-pound tensile strength. The smaller diameter Zing-it is ideal for high shots & creates less friction over branches allowing use of lighter weights.) I really like this makes shooting into the tree a lot easier.
Hey Bino Merry Christmas brother what kind of throw line is that that you use thanks
It's Samson Zing-it throw line. Merry Christmas to you too!
I do like and appreciate your videos. However, there's something that's probably rather common that can foil this method. As I just found out, if your up throw line and down throw line fall on opposing sides of a branch below the crotch or branch the throw line goes over, the friction saver will be stopped on its way up by the branch and it'll never get up to the crotch or branch the throw line went over. Is there perhaps another method that will work when the up throw line and down throw line fall on opposing sides of a branch?
Beno is dope
thank you!
Bino: Is a friction saver as a single tie in point enough or do you need a second tie in? I'm using a Sterling adjustable friction saver at the moment. Thank you
Yes one friction saver is enough. It's nice that you have an adjustable one for different diameters.
Hi Bino, first of all, thank you so much for all the educational content! It is really well done and easy to understand. I have a question about friction savers as shown in this video.
If I were to do this with a zigzag or other device for SRT that is not midline attachable, I would have to tie the rope to the other side of the throwline (not the one where the bag was), so that the rope comes out of the small ring instead of the big ring, so that I can then there make the alpine butterfly as a stopper and climb the side of the big ring up SRT, correct?
Otherwise I would have to feed the rope through the zigzag every time when setting this up and I would not be able to use a spliced eye in a rope as that would then not go through the zigzag.
Am I understanding/imagining this correctly?
Thank you. I really do not use a friction saver when I climb stationary rope but I believe you would set it up with your stopper knot on the small ring side and you climb on the big ring side. I also don't have a Zig zag but you would feed it through on the rope that is on the big side. It might be a good idea to set it up very low to the ground to visualize it. I hope that was helpful. Take care!
@@BinoH thank you so much for the kind reply!
@@norb4152 You're welcome.
All the videos showing set/retrieve cambium savers from the ground, they all miss the part where they get the tied end of the rope back? (through the small cambium ring which sets anchor/saver), they all show setting the cambium saver, then at retrieval time they magically have both ends of rope in hand again???? Unless you keep boyh ends and tie in to bottom of tree, but what if your doing srt on a large tree, your using the cam saver as the anchor, hpw do you retrieve that from the ground?
I'm curious what length your friction saver is and does it hurt to have a longer one that's 48"? What is your preference between the steel and aluminum rings?
I like steel and I think mine might be 30" but there are adjustable ones.
Thanks Bino.
Seems like half the tree's I try to do this on has so many branches that its impossible to get the throw line routed the same way going up as coming down. Any tips for this situation?
You may have to just work your way up and set when you get there or look into the SRS climbing system because then you wouldn't have to isolate your line and there is no friction on the branch you're tied into.
If you climb into the tree and want to reposition into another crotch is that easy to do in the tree with the friction saver? I can't think of an easy way to move it when you're in the tree.
The best way is to send a shot bag to your final tie in and install the friction saver. if you planed on working you way up the tree it's best to reposition up to your final tie in and then install your friction saver.
Hi, I really admire your works of climbing the tree. Where can I learn to use ropes to climb trees?
I am 40 years old. Am I too old to learn ?
Thank you, Do you mean for work or recreation? I have videos from the basic beginning. Check out my play list intro to tree climbing. I'm 54 and I still climb.
Yikes, 72 here and I'm excited to start doing rec climbing with the grandkids! My problem is not the ambition, but more avoiding the temptation to get a Notch Sentinel Harness, Rope Runner Pro and Jet Foot Ascender, Petzl I'd Descender and Ascender, CT Chest Plus, Big Shot and... So is there any help for me? At any rate, excellent video and clear explanation!
Can these be used in SRT to protect the rope, Bino?
yes you can do canopy anchors with friction savers.
@@BinoH Hi Bino,
Is there a benefit to doing that? I would imagine that one end of the rope would get worn out after a while if it was always being looped around rough tree bark as a canopy anchor, and yet no-one seems to talk about (or do videos about) friction savers being used in SRT, all of the videos are ONLY about using them in moving rope systems???
Why isn't this talked about? Is it an uncommon or an unusual suggestion?
Kind regards, Lee
Hi Bino, can i ask you a favor - I need a friction saver but, currently (here in Ukraine) it's impossible to buy one. Which one would you recommend on Amazon? Thanks
I don't recommend buying a friction saver from amazon. You might try and arborist supply in a country near you.
@@BinoH I see. Thanks for the good tip, finally I've found one (by Petzl) in reliable local store. It's a total mess because of Covid - 19. I'll go to Poland for the rest of the equipment.
@@rainjersforest768 I'm glad you were able to find one. Take care!
Hi,
How long should the string to which the weight is attached be ?
That depends on how high your throw in to the tree is. If it's 60 feet than you should have more than 120 feet of throw line.
How long and thick was the string they used in this video ?
Now I know the secret process
Nice, give it a try!
Is it waterpoof? Will rain deteriorate it?
It's not waterpoof, it will sosk up water but you let it dry out of the sun. I'm not sure if water will shorten it's life.
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If steel rings can't survive a fall ,whats the point in paying for the pos.
What the minimum size of a branch that the friction savor should be at?
It is the same as a final tie in without one.
I meant the thickness of a Branch
The final tie point should be at least 4 inch diameter. I made a video on it. Here is the title, Why climbers should use a proper tie in point.
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I'm using the branch not as support. I have to install the friction saver by girth hitching. No way to climb DDRT when your climbing rope goes around 36" of surface. Thankfully most of the bark I've gotten off. That red oak bark is the worst.
Sounds like a very large tree.
My dumb butt ordered the wrong size retrieval ball its, to small for the small ring dangit
Bummer
Please whip/tape the end of your climb line, "How you do anything is how you do everything"
Yes it has been whipped since this video. Thanks.
Can you wrap it around twice to shorten it and still retrieve it?
If steel rings can't survive a fall ,whats the point in paying for the pos.