As a black belt in taekwondo, we were taught to NEVER go full power on a lower ranking belt. I have no clue as to why a black belt would do that. Part of being a black belt is being able to control your power, that is basically the opposite of controlling your power. Also, it took me 7 and a half years to get to black belt, 1-2 years is completely unrealistic unless you go to a belt factory. Edit: I used to go to Impact Martial Arts, Clinton, NJ. I left about 6 months ago and moved to a different state.
Not according to the update to the story. Apparently it's true and the only reason why they were doing a ranked battle despite being at different classes is because, allegedly, the yellow belt rejected the coach. @@alexadamson9959
Added info: The girl sued the coach because the coach intended to destroy girl emotionally and physically because as what her mother said to interview the coach had a crush on the girl which happened to be his(coach) student. The girl frequently rejected the coach's indecent proposals before that happened and planned and arranged an unfair sparring match that will surely injure his student. Thus, ended up suing the coach and now facing multiple charges. By the way that happened here in the philippines. 🇵🇭
For those who don’t know: she is still alive but is currently in a hospital and her injuries are: broken nose, and bruises and the police is still investigating about what happened. And as a new yellow belter in taekwondo that has no experience about sparring I’m pretty scared
Yeah it is scary I did Taekwondo during highschool and sparring was rough, most likely since I was a kid who had never really been in a proper fight going up against adults, yeah my group didn't bother about age just what belt you were, I never got injured though. I think if I was to do it now I could manage sparring although it's been years since I quit. I was getting ready to earn the blue belt when I decided to quit Taekwondo since I was losing time with friends cuz of it, that and getting bored I guess. One time I broke a black board and man did I feel like a champion
As someone who has done TKD for a collective of around 8 years, my advice is only to ever spar with someone you know and trust. Start decent, don’t dish what you can’t take, forgo the headshots and just breathe and mess around a little at first; smile and laugh at stupid stuff you do, and gradually make your way into more complex techniques. This is the time to play and test out cool sh!t you learned. In sparring, I’ve been knocked out, had my nose broken, hit the ground and been beaten while down. The moment you feel legitimately unsafe, tap out or move away. It’s never worth staying in a fight over nothing.
There should have been another instructor there to step in incase of fights getting heated. Irresponsible of the club as well, it’s terrible that things even got that far. It’s been awhile since I’ve competed myself, or coached, half a decade now I think…
The story is beyond that. It's a coach vs a student issue. The coach has love interest with the Yellow belt and rejected the coach it ended retaliate to make the yellow belt suffer.
This coach has no business teaching students. As someone who trains in a boxing gym, you should never go full out, unless the your sparring partner agrees to a hard sparring session. Sparring should be educational for both, learning how to move and when to hit and not, no NEVER make the other one suffer. Such a petty coach should never teach students ever again. Absolutely vile and immature behaviour, have some respect for your students or your sparring partners ffs.
This is recent news from the Philippines. What happened was allegedly the yellow-belt girl's instructor made romantic advances towards her but got rejected. As revenge, he forced her to a sparring session with a MALE black-belter. What made it more disturbing was the black-belter guy agreed to do it even though he knew what he was doing was wrong.
I heard the coach was fired from his job and faced criminal charges thankfully but I don't see any comments on what happened to the black belt guy I hope he also faced criminal charges and got banned from any martial artist gym for going along with something so vile like that
This is what happened: This is a Filipino news I am an orange belt in karate in Philippines, the story about her is about the instructor having a crush on her colleague which is Jamie. when he knew about her having a boyfriend he set up a match with Jamie and told the instructor to dominate the sparring match, his weight is 70 kg
As a black belt myself it’s completely normal to spar with low belts and even little kids. your not supposed to go batshit crazy on them, sparring is for learning you’re supposed to tone it down to their level while still challenging them to help them learn. this guy is just an asshole
I'm gonna give you a background on this one since it was on mainstream media as well. This happen in the Philippines where in the coach of the taekwondo team in their university has a crush on the girl, but the coach learned that the girl already have a boyfriend and it seems he doesn't like it. After knowing that, the coach pair the girl on a sparring with a black belter guy and it didn't go well. The girl suffer a head injury and having mental issues, her nose broke and having a black eye as well. The university president took action on this and the coach of the taekwondo team was already out of the institution and facing criminal charges.
Yikes! I was about to say, that in some testing conditions, you may have those kind of pairings, but they're very rare, and the black belt usually knows to not go hard and spar defensively. Oh, and anything above the shoulder is a HUGE no-no in those situations. In competitive sparring, yes, IF controlled. The few cases where this didn't happen and people taking naps is uh... yeah, too many that I've judged.
That black belt also has no business for making it so personal. Some people need to learn how to take rejections. Go listen to taylor swift or something
omg I just read the article about this yesterday. What were they thinkin!?! unfortunately the girl is still recovering and at times loss consciousness as what her parents states
I found the original she was hospitalized and recovering,they are investigating the whole situation while the coach is suspended(the whole thing was from Philippine:news)
it's from the Philippines..the coach has/had a crush with the yellow belt girl.. but when the girl's boyfriend visited hee for her birthday, the coach got jealous, he's ( the coach) has been bugging her for "dates"..she's only 17..so to get back at her rejections, the coach had her spar with a black belt male...which went hard on her..
The black belt is an a**hole, too, for going along with it. If my coach told me to be sparring with someone completely inferior - like a little kid - I would never be able to go full blast and injure that poor kid.
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It happened in my country. The coach who asked the Black Belter to beat the Yellow Belt girl, initially was interested at the girl. Asking her on a date, coffee, hang out, etc. But the girl is not interested. But the coach got jealous when the girl received boquets of flowers from her boyfriend. The coach was rejected that is why he set up a "match" for the Black Belter to beat the Yellow-Belt girl. The black-belt had to follow his coach for some reasons.
Did the black belt hold back, because if not then he is just an asshole. When at that level, and get into a sparing match with either A) someone lower ranked then you, or B)someone much younger then you to where physical strength would greatly impact the match(like a teen getting paired up with a 8 year old) then you absolutely hold back to their level. You may give them a challenge to rise up to, as it's a great way to learn, but you arnt a souls boss, and don't need to make it impossible, or injure your opponent. Also, generally in sparring matches you will hold back a bit either way, as you arnt trying to exclusively injure your opponent again.
No matter how much the black belt had to obey his coach, if he went full force than he is also guilty. If I put myself at his place - I never ever would have been able, like physically able, to injure someone who is so much weaker than me. My hands would go limp, and my movements would slow down, and there's nothing the coach could do about it.
That chart doest mean black belt in 2 years. It means it takes 2-3 months for a yellow and then 3 more months for orange and then 3 more months for green. It takes a year just for a green belt. It takes about 10 years for a black.
In korea kids earn black belt in 1 year...also if you do WT teakwondo...kukkiwon only recognize geups and dans...there isn't a time requirement for black belt only a knowledge and skill requirement
It takes abt 2 years to earn a blackbelt in TKD. Not a lot of material to learn. You can do it in abt 1 year if you go to Korea. There you train everyday all day. That's all you do for that year. In the US we made it complicated do to our social structure and laziness. Going only 3 nights a week for 1 hour classes gets you nowhere and takes forever to advance to blackbelt. And we added a few belt colors to lengthen the journey and to empty the pocket book for those 3 years. Here in the US it more of a marketing system.
So this well trained fighter demolished this woman in a SPARRING match???💀💀 And yet some people think she's in the wrong despite, you know, he could've held back a lot???💀💀💀
This actually happened in the Philippines and the story is like the coach purposely let his black belt beat her up just because of petty jealousy and the coach should definitely be punished like the girl was literally hospitalised
I'm a taekwondo practicioner with lots of sparring experiences. I've seen lots of noobs get humbled by the higher rank belts when they first spar but not like until this far. Idk what she did but I feel like the blackbelt have overstepped his limit for this one, even for something like disciplining the yellow belt. Its not about the gender, its just the blackbelt have all the means to destroy the yellow belt and he ruthlessly chose to do so in a "sparring match". Sure, to spar means u need to be ready to get hit too, but like imagine Mike Tyson going all out on a random rookie boxer in a sparring match, its just overkill. Just feels wrong to me.
Yeah apparently all over a petty, unrequited crush. Those two should face criminal charges and be stripped of their belts (I dont know if that is even a thing. But in this case, it should be.)
@@mistahhbeangaming8127 get kicked out and go somewhere else. But to beat someone like that is unacceptable, and the fact that they agreed shows there is something wrong with them too.
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@@JesusOrDestructionshame on the black belt for not holding back they have more experience and know how to hold back c'mon man use your head not the other one
As a person who does taekwondo, all I can say is that the instructor is in the wrong here, it's all the instructors fault for pairing the black belt and the yellow.
This was on Philippine news, apparently the coach had a thing for the girl but she didn't reciprocate, as a result, the coach had her spar with a black belter, on the news her face is bloody and swollen and she was crying as she talked about the incident
@@arificiallemon3640are you kidding the black belt should have more sense and never challenge the yellow belt even though that’s just speculation on your end which is goofy it’s beside the point someone with much more experience should know better period. That’s like being a citizen and getting challenged by a trained soldier and then getting blamed when taking them up on it 🙄 i have a feeling the person who has more of an understanding on what they can do should not challenge people who are less equipped to fight them. I know crazy hot take 😂
It happened in the Philippines It happened to that girl because her coach (who was deeply in love with her) got jealous because she brought her boyfriend (I forgot in what event) but he was soooo upset and jealous he made that unofficial and unfair sparing match to got a pay back
My family used to run a Martial Arts studio before it had to get shut down because of Covid. Not all schools have their belt colors in the same order as well as may have different colors or patterns, some schools don't have the two-tone belts and some schools have camo belts, and also black belts have different degrees and it takes way longer than two years to get to black (I studied under may father for maybe five years and I believe I only got to red) That said, the black belt should know how to hold back their strength to make it even, especially if they were their instructor.
As a black belt in krav maga, I have had to do this before on both sides, I was a white belt and I had to go up against a Brown belt,. I left with a couple bruises in my broken thumb and then 2 years later. I was a black bell and they decided to make me. Spar a blue boat about 2 ranks down from a black belt. He left perfectly fine because I knew self-control, because if you're leaving somebody with bruises after sparring, you're not spying right.
I am a 2nd degree black belt, soon to be 3rd. Basically black belts should only spar other black belts. And color belt should stick to sparring each other
No. I been thru a few martial arts. Most of them you will spar with blackbelts. Both need to learn. Blackbelts mainly so they learn more control and how to gauge. Colored belts are inexperienced and you need someone to learn from. When I did TKD and a orange belt I fought all ranks. There was always 1 rule. You were never allowed to do higher level techniques or strikes higher than that colored belts level. And the blackbelts need to learn since you have to learn to teach at 1st degree. The chief instructor in charge is the person responsible for maintaining the control in the sessions. And sparring should be fun. Light nothing hard and heavy. There is other types of trading and sparring you do for the more serious levels. Like one is the closed/locked door policy. Or the blackbelt only class. Blackbelts and colored belts need to interact on all levels.
Honestly I sparred people with blue belts twice my size in jujitsu and yeah it’s pretty easy to get injured on accident. One dude scissor kicked my leg cause he wanted to experiment (it was illegal but he didn’t know that) and I was limp there for days. He apologized profusely and I held no grudge over it
As a second degree black belt in Taekwondo this was an extremely foolish match and this fight should never have happened. Shame on the guy for being so rough to a yellow belt who was additionally a female. He should have his black belt revoked ASAP
@@JacobBartlett-mh4xy Feels something is missing, to make the coach even more mad, probably never said to him that she already have a boyfriend, and probably dated him more than once. This thing happens a lot here in the Philippines. She probably tried to trick him into becoming a sugar daddy.
@@luliu4572tbf, she was a yellow belt and he was a black belt, I'm pretty sure the people who advocate for mixed gender MMA or something like that are referring to female fighters who would also be a black belt or complete master in theyr form of art/arts (idk if black belt makes you a master or not since it probably varrys from art to art) so theyr odds against a male competitor should be much more even than you might think so long as they are within the same weight class I assume.
@@ElishaFolletaight lemme give you a few bio facts Men have stronger bones (40%) Men have denser muscules more muscule fiber so if a man and women look to have the same amount of muscle men have more fibers pulling and pushing (30%) Men have around 15 times the testostrone women do which make men go ape shit in fights So no having 2 or 3 big advantages means fighting is never gonna be fair between women and men Stick to chest or some other sport
@@ElishaFolletyeah. I roughly agree that if someone is trained then they can fight untrained people regardless of gender or size. This was largely unfair. From the fact that he had 4+ years of experience on her to the fact that he probably weights more.
@@TomBradshaw-ot9zbthe senior has the responsibility. I used to do kickboxing (Japanese style), got to purple which was one below black in that style. Having control, understanding your place in the ranks, and caring for the lower ranks was just as important as being able to roundhouse kick
It’s common and I even fight white, yellow and other belts as I’m 2nd degree black belt. Yeah it’s unbeatable but black are suppose to go easy on early belts especially on girls
I’m going to tell you right now. Karate isn’t a joke. It might seem kinda like a joke when you are armed with a gun but when you think about just some unprepared citizen it can legitametely kill. Be safe guys.
It’s fine to spar a black belt at a lower belt, however it probably should only be done if: 1. The lower belt has no one else to spar / they need to learn or need experience with a black belt 2. The black belt controls themselves and doesn’t go too hard In this case, neither were taken to consideration
Why in the world were they even letting them fight? Isn't it a strict rule to never make girls take on boys? Unless the girl was YEARS ahead in experience, this shouldn't have been a matchup. My PE instructor literally would rather make the female students have multiple sparring partners than make them partner up with a guy, cuz he knows the gap in physical stats would be horrendous.
Eeh I only have about a year in training in kickboxing and this is only my personal current experience (so keep in mind this is probably different depending on the gym or something) but we have no issues with allowing both genders to sparr against each other just remember that you need to hold back on weaker opponents and that you are sparring not trying to kill each other lol (there's also a BJJ dojo near were I live that went to once since they were offering 1 free session for people so they could get more folks interested in coming back, and from what I can recall they didn't have issues with allowing the girls and boys to sparr with each other ether, i don't think gender really matters when it comes to training and I think it's pretty good that way tbh.)
Because that's a social construct. The rule in martial arts is that you are supposed to fight those with your belt. If you're a black belt, you should only be able to fight a black belt and not someone who is clearly new
Sparring MMA against a woman I always went easier on them because it's an obvious advantage I have as a man, the fact this dude organized this match due to romantic motives is disturbing just as much as the guy who agreed to do it.
I am black belt in taekwondo with 5 years of experience and what I can tell you is that a master has to supervise all times and make sure the other person is in the able state to fight. The difference should be fine as long as the black belt controls their power on the yellow belt. Otherwise, this shouldn’t be allowed because of the belt difference.
Back when I did taekwondo, one of the regular exercises was sparring with lower belts, and me training to pull my punches. There have been times I was paired with like 3 white belts at once, all elementary school children. At the time I was around 12. I thought it was cute, but I learned a lot about self control through those sparring matches.
This is a sparring match. There really isn't anything wrong with having people of different genders or belts spar together. When I spar, my opponent and I are not trying to kill each other, it's a light match. If the person I'm sparring is much weaker than I am or less experienced, I take it easier. With people around my level, who can clearly take some hits, we'll be more aggressive. It's common sense. In an actual fight or tournament however? Genders should 100% be kept separate, and people of greatly different skill levels should not fight.
He hit above elbows despite this being sparring, they were also different weight classes by a wide margin and coach matched on purpose a black belt with her :(
@@ezra8545 some women are also just bones put on average when it comes to humans men are 40% stronger than women distance fluctuate from individual to individual but this is the average
As a former Black Belt student under my master Ken back in Texas we was always Taught to “NEVER GO FULLPOWER ON LOWER OPPONENTS” it took me 6 years to become a 2 degree black belt studying Karate, Mu tai, Kung fu, and Krav Maga and if we were to ever go overboard on our opponents we were punished
...here in México it doesn't matter if the girl is a triple dan black belt, we don't mess with girls. I miss when this used to be common knowledge in the States as well...
Well because it isn't about gender. Black belts don't go full power with lower ranks and he only went full power due to the instructor asking him to punish her because she said no to his creepy advances.
@@nushia7192 bro I didn't say she wouldn't beat our asses 😂 it's just something we don't do regardless. Heck, I have many girl-friends that definitely kick my ass and one of them is so tiny and weights 41kgs but black belt in taekwondo and I remember the time I held a "peto" which is how she calls those kickboxing thingys that are super thick and used to kick, held it on my chest and my stomach still hurt for another hour after she kicked. But again, in case it wasn't clear, we just don't mess with girls.
@@melonsauce1474 sorry man, I don't know their true stories or situations, and obviously don't know them personally, so sad if what you say it's true though. But what I said holds true here in México, nobody would tell any man to do that no matter the case.
Also take into conciteration that you are looking at the gradings for WT (world taekwondo) Which is easier to get. If its IT/ITF (International taekwondo federation) The belt is harder to get. ALSO there are extra grades for black belts known as Dan, there are 9 of them so he could have trained even longer.
I did 4-5 years of Taekwondo and you are sometimes given these match ups as unofficial seesions as a sort of light practice. But as black tag myself, we are never to go full throttle on a lower class, it's more so experience and practice for the lower belts to get a feel for things and you as a higher up are able to give pointers if in a casual setting.
Unfortunately, the coach was mad because the lady whom he had a crush on, had a boyfriend thus rejected him multiple times. As revenge, the coach forced her to spar with a black belt. 🥺
As a former Taekwondo student (Blue belt) I'm glad that my coach was actually a decent person and cared for me even when I was feeling down. It just shows what a martial arts teacher should be.
For more context, this has happened to be a crime. The "coach" was somehow allowing the black belt against the yellow belt. The black belt kick the yellow belt when yellow belt was already falling. Other people who had the same "coach" texted the yellow belt that the coach did the same thing to them which they call "abuse". The coach also did this because he was rejected.
I do martial arts, and im a brown belt (in karate). And we were told to NEVER hit hard to someone who's more then 2 belts diffrent from you, thats a big no- no to any martial arts.
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As a black belt in taekwondo, we were taught to NEVER go full power on a lower ranking belt. I have no clue as to why a black belt would do that. Part of being a black belt is being able to control your power, that is basically the opposite of controlling your power. Also, it took me 7 and a half years to get to black belt, 1-2 years is completely unrealistic unless you go to a belt factory.
Edit: I used to go to Impact Martial Arts, Clinton, NJ. I left about 6 months ago and moved to a different state.
I see.. btw from where did you learn taekwondo?
Probably to help the coach exact revenge on the girl because she didn't want to go out with him
@@athenatanyimin4035that’s one massive assumption there buddy.
Edit: he was correct. Would have been nice to mention that in the video though.
Not according to the update to the story. Apparently it's true and the only reason why they were doing a ranked battle despite being at different classes is because, allegedly, the yellow belt rejected the coach. @@alexadamson9959
Yours probably the traditional one. The non-trafitional from what I heard took shorter time to get any belt.
Added info: The girl sued the coach because the coach intended to destroy girl emotionally and physically because as what her mother said to interview the coach had a crush on the girl which happened to be his(coach) student. The girl frequently rejected the coach's indecent proposals before that happened and planned and arranged an unfair sparring match that will surely injure his student. Thus, ended up suing the coach and now facing multiple charges.
By the way that happened here in the philippines. 🇵🇭
im just commenting here so you can notify me if they won the lawsuit or not
Hey please let us know what happens. That coach is a complete scumbag and needs to be punished for being a beta male
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Wild and discusting!
shout out to the philippines
For those who don’t know: she is still alive but is currently in a hospital and her injuries are: broken nose, and bruises and the police is still investigating about what happened. And as a new yellow belter in taekwondo that has no experience about sparring I’m pretty scared
Yeah it is scary I did Taekwondo during highschool and sparring was rough, most likely since I was a kid who had never really been in a proper fight going up against adults, yeah my group didn't bother about age just what belt you were, I never got injured though.
I think if I was to do it now I could manage sparring although it's been years since I quit. I was getting ready to earn the blue belt when I decided to quit Taekwondo since I was losing time with friends cuz of it, that and getting bored I guess.
One time I broke a black board and man did I feel like a champion
As someone who has done TKD for a collective of around 8 years, my advice is only to ever spar with someone you know and trust.
Start decent, don’t dish what you can’t take, forgo the headshots and just breathe and mess around a little at first; smile and laugh at stupid stuff you do, and gradually make your way into more complex techniques. This is the time to play and test out cool sh!t you learned.
In sparring, I’ve been knocked out, had my nose broken, hit the ground and been beaten while down. The moment you feel legitimately unsafe, tap out or move away. It’s never worth staying in a fight over nothing.
lol i doubt that tkd guys are huge wussies that are not allowed to punch the face😂. Punches to the head and low kicks stops tkd easy @@lordpotoo1375
Don’t be scared, I did taekwondo and this never happens, and if it does you can sue
There should have been another instructor there to step in incase of fights getting heated. Irresponsible of the club as well, it’s terrible that things even got that far. It’s been awhile since I’ve competed myself, or coached, half a decade now I think…
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The story is beyond that. It's a coach vs a student issue. The coach has love interest with the Yellow belt and rejected the coach it ended retaliate to make the yellow belt suffer.
no shit sherlock
This coach has no business teaching students. As someone who trains in a boxing gym, you should never go full out, unless the your sparring partner agrees to a hard sparring session. Sparring should be educational for both, learning how to move and when to hit and not, no NEVER make the other one suffer. Such a petty coach should never teach students ever again. Absolutely vile and immature behaviour, have some respect for your students or your sparring partners ffs.
Sounds like a complete incel
What a loser going all his way just to harm some girl who said the word "no" to him 😂
Absolutely gross behaviour, such a total abuse of power.
It shows this coach would abuse women when in a relationship.
Another prime example of why people with a childish like mindset or weak egos should not be in positions of leadership let alone power/high authority.
This is recent news from the Philippines. What happened was allegedly the yellow-belt girl's instructor made romantic advances towards her but got rejected. As revenge, he forced her to a sparring session with a MALE black-belter. What made it more disturbing was the black-belter guy agreed to do it even though he knew what he was doing was wrong.
I actually saw that on KMJS because I'm from Philippines
Absolutely gross behaviour, such a total abuse of power.
It shows this coach would abuse women when in a relationship.
@@GazB85 your right,but don't worry there sueing the couch
@@Seal_dude344YT Good.
I heard the coach was fired from his job and faced criminal charges thankfully but I don't see any comments on what happened to the black belt guy I hope he also faced criminal charges and got banned from any martial artist gym for going along with something so vile like that
This is what happened:
This is a Filipino news I am an orange belt in karate in Philippines, the story about her is about the instructor having a crush on her colleague which is Jamie. when he knew about her having a boyfriend he set up a match with Jamie and told the instructor to dominate the sparring match, his weight is 70 kg
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70kg? Isn't that like 140 lbs? Why even mention his weight when he's built like a malnourished American?
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As a black belt myself it’s completely normal to spar with low belts and even little kids. your not supposed to go batshit crazy on them, sparring is for learning you’re supposed to tone it down to their level while still challenging them to help them learn. this guy is just an asshole
Yep, same here brother
The guy had romantic/sexual interest in the girl,and when she rejected his advanced,he did that to make her suffer
This all the way - you wait for the competition or the choose your own partner sparring matches to cut loose
Exactly
Men and women can fight in martial arts. And a black belt can fight a lower belt bit has to tone it down
I'm gonna give you a background on this one since it was on mainstream media as well. This happen in the Philippines where in the coach of the taekwondo team in their university has a crush on the girl, but the coach learned that the girl already have a boyfriend and it seems he doesn't like it. After knowing that, the coach pair the girl on a sparring with a black belter guy and it didn't go well. The girl suffer a head injury and having mental issues, her nose broke and having a black eye as well. The university president took action on this and the coach of the taekwondo team was already out of the institution and facing criminal charges.
Yikes! I was about to say, that in some testing conditions, you may have those kind of pairings, but they're very rare, and the black belt usually knows to not go hard and spar defensively.
Oh, and anything above the shoulder is a HUGE no-no in those situations. In competitive sparring, yes, IF controlled. The few cases where this didn't happen and people taking naps is uh... yeah, too many that I've judged.
That black belt also has no business for making it so personal. Some people need to learn how to take rejections. Go listen to taylor swift or something
omg I just read the article about this yesterday. What were they thinkin!?! unfortunately the girl is still recovering and at times loss consciousness as what her parents states
Feel bad for him
@SL4PSH0CK oh my god. I pray she pulls through. ... that's awful.... all because some crusty idiot couldnt handle "No."
I found the original she was hospitalized and recovering,they are investigating the whole situation while the coach is suspended(the whole thing was from Philippine:news)
Wow, that's crazy.😧
Coach wanted the girl but she rejected him. Made her then fight that black belt
recovered but having some permanent problems as i heard, involving her her head injuries that might have resulted to mental issues after ;-;
“Touch oh make me great” in the bottom right corner is crazy 💀
Thank God I’m not the only one who noticed that 💀
@@riafromthesword fr fr
@@riafromtheswordfr fr
It's just lyrics lil bro 🤓
This is why skill based matchmaking is important
it's from the Philippines..the coach has/had a crush with the yellow belt girl.. but when the girl's boyfriend visited hee for her birthday, the coach got jealous, he's ( the coach) has been bugging her for "dates"..she's only 17..so to get back at her rejections, the coach had her spar with a black belt male...which went hard on her..
The black belt is an a**hole, too, for going along with it.
If my coach told me to be sparring with someone completely inferior - like a little kid - I would never be able to go full blast and injure that poor kid.
If that's true, then both the coach and the black belt student should have their hands and feet removed
@@zaph1987woodchipper is hungry
@@Louise-u3wwe dont know. Cuz what if something the coach will do to the black belt if he didnt accompany him? You dont know we dont know
@@Louise-u3wI would😊
Everytime I hear "Hey apple" pop up in my feed I get tensed up
Be hitting a captain america with the comments
LMAO except this guy is fucking it up. "Hey Apple" used to be Not Safe For Life content like the Hisashi Ouchi reel whose entrails basically melted because of massive severe radiation damage or that other girl that was fused to the couch and passed away buried in her own urine and feces. Or hell that climber that basically broke his ankle in half and you could see the exposed bone and the skin hanging out from his feet. Now this guy is making these slideshows for completely mundane events. It's ridiculous!
Touch oh make me great - idk sterling 2024
@@FriendlyVultureerm actually, it was the captions trying to see what the song was saying🤓👆
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It happened in my country. The coach who asked the Black Belter to beat the Yellow Belt girl, initially was interested at the girl. Asking her on a date, coffee, hang out, etc. But the girl is not interested.
But the coach got jealous when the girl received boquets of flowers from her boyfriend. The coach was rejected that is why he set up a "match" for the Black Belter to beat the Yellow-Belt girl. The black-belt had to follow his coach for some reasons.
Youre filipino
Same
Did the black belt hold back, because if not then he is just an asshole. When at that level, and get into a sparing match with either A) someone lower ranked then you, or B)someone much younger then you to where physical strength would greatly impact the match(like a teen getting paired up with a 8 year old) then you absolutely hold back to their level. You may give them a challenge to rise up to, as it's a great way to learn, but you arnt a souls boss, and don't need to make it impossible, or injure your opponent. Also, generally in sparring matches you will hold back a bit either way, as you arnt trying to exclusively injure your opponent again.
@@logan12satcom83He probably got either got forced by the coach to treat her as if she was another black belt
Or yeah he’s just a dishonorable idiot
No matter how much the black belt had to obey his coach, if he went full force than he is also guilty.
If I put myself at his place - I never ever would have been able, like physically able, to injure someone who is so much weaker than me. My hands would go limp, and my movements would slow down, and there's nothing the coach could do about it.
OK we already seen the posts about the culprits, but about the poor girl, how bad was she hurt?
Pov: joining ranked match but not an absolute same skill match session
Skill based matchmaking 💀
That chart doest mean black belt in 2 years. It means it takes 2-3 months for a yellow and then 3 more months for orange and then 3 more months for green. It takes a year just for a green belt. It takes about 10 years for a black.
The time on each is the time from the current rank to the next rather than from the start to that time right?
So in 2 years you get to the brown belt?
In korea kids earn black belt in 1 year...also if you do WT teakwondo...kukkiwon only recognize geups and dans...there isn't a time requirement for black belt only a knowledge and skill requirement
Isn't the black belt broken up into its own set of tiers too?
It takes abt 2 years to earn a blackbelt in TKD. Not a lot of material to learn. You can do it in abt 1 year if you go to Korea. There you train everyday all day. That's all you do for that year.
In the US we made it complicated do to our social structure and laziness. Going only 3 nights a week for 1 hour classes gets you nowhere and takes forever to advance to blackbelt. And we added a few belt colors to lengthen the journey and to empty the pocket book for those 3 years. Here in the US it more of a marketing system.
So this well trained fighter demolished this woman in a SPARRING match???💀💀 And yet some people think she's in the wrong despite, you know, he could've held back a lot???💀💀💀
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@@TomBradshaw-ot9zb sure buddy I'll do that💀💀
@@TomBradshaw-ot9zb womp womp 😢
This actually happened in the Philippines and the story is like the coach purposely let his black belt beat her up just because of petty jealousy and the coach should definitely be punished like the girl was literally hospitalised
Bro doesn't know how to use em💀💀@@pigeonleader
I'm a taekwondo practicioner with lots of sparring experiences. I've seen lots of noobs get humbled by the higher rank belts when they first spar but not like until this far. Idk what she did but I feel like the blackbelt have overstepped his limit for this one, even for something like disciplining the yellow belt. Its not about the gender, its just the blackbelt have all the means to destroy the yellow belt and he ruthlessly chose to do so in a "sparring match". Sure, to spar means u need to be ready to get hit too, but like imagine Mike Tyson going all out on a random rookie boxer in a sparring match, its just overkill. Just feels wrong to me.
Yeah apparently all over a petty, unrequited crush. Those two should face criminal charges and be stripped of their belts (I dont know if that is even a thing. But in this case, it should be.)
@@roxy918 It is. The coach is already facing criminal charges. I dunno about the other one.
I mean, would you if you got threatened to be kicked out if you didnt? That could be what's happening with the guy.
@@mistahhbeangaming8127 get kicked out and go somewhere else. But to beat someone like that is unacceptable, and the fact that they agreed shows there is something wrong with them too.
@@roxy918Anyone in martial arts can be stripped of rank and some are usually barred from learning that form.
"touch oh make me great" 💀💀💀
Skill-based matchmaking in online games is important for fair competition. It's crucial to maintain the integrity of the game and ensure a level playing field.
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Not to mention he was a man so that made it arguably even more unfair than the belts
Meh. It was over an unrequited crush and black belts are not supposed to behave as he did.
@@melonsauce1474 Nah, she did something more sinister than that, which is why this happened.
@@nushia7192
WTF?! That’s not what I read.
@@nushia7192What did she do
@@nushia7192What'd she do?
Martials arts are supposed to teach discipline. Not fighting someone who is under trained to put up a reasonable defense is against the teachings
Shame on the black belt for not reigning it in
Shame on the yellow belt for accepting the match
@@JesusOrDestructionshame on the black belt for not holding back they have more experience and know how to hold back c'mon man use your head not the other one
Shame on the yellow belt for not expecting what's coming up@@GiggyWiggy2086
@@JesusOrDestructionthere’s usually an instructor deciding who’s fighting who.
As a person who does taekwondo, all I can say is that the instructor is in the wrong here, it's all the instructors fault for pairing the black belt and the yellow.
The subtitles are crazy af 😂 touch oh make me great 😂😂😂 come on bro
That’s what happened to ice types in Pokémon
i felt like he purposely did this, just to maybe make her look bad? Hope she recovers.
Even if she did the black belt has a duty to hold back
@@erikburzinski8248not his responsibility
he did, the coach had a crush on the girl but the coach saw she had a boyfriend so he didnt like that and got a black belt to fight her to retaliate
It always be the hey apple slides bro 💀
-Fr-
This was on Philippine news, apparently the coach had a thing for the girl but she didn't reciprocate, as a result, the coach had her spar with a black belter, on the news her face is bloody and swollen and she was crying as she talked about the incident
"Touch oh make me great"💀
*This case was already on court!*
*I hope that girl get the justice for her!*
i feel like he did this purposely, maybe to make fun of her? hope she recovers from this.
what are you talking about? he played legally, she was just weak and so got injured
Was he supposed to hold back??? Why is a yellow belt saying yes to a sparring match with a black one
@@arificiallemon3640are you kidding the black belt should have more sense and never challenge the yellow belt even though that’s just speculation on your end which is goofy it’s beside the point someone with much more experience should know better period. That’s like being a citizen and getting challenged by a trained soldier and then getting blamed when taking them up on it 🙄 i have a feeling the person who has more of an understanding on what they can do should not challenge people who are less equipped to fight them. I know crazy hot take 😂
@@Scaredrobinthen how are supposed to get better? You’re too soft
I doubt it
The dude should go to jail
“touch oh make me great”
the captions are amazing lol
LOL
i was gonna comment that lol
Bruh, even if they were the same belt, the physical difference between their genders is still unfair lmao
Also it’s a dude vs a women. Clear disadvantage
Why does it say “touch oh make me great”💀💀💀💀💀
Fr🤨🤨🤨
It says amazing Grace stupid
Oh nah
It says amazing grace
@erikarias5769 no, look at the bottom right corner where the captions are.
It happened in the Philippines
It happened to that girl because her coach (who was deeply in love with her) got jealous because she brought her boyfriend (I forgot in what event) but he was soooo upset and jealous he made that unofficial and unfair sparing match to got a pay back
that match was set on purpose by the coach, and yes all the bruises and injuries she got are all intensional...
Apparently after she rejected his romantic advances since she already has a boyfriend, he forced her into this fight as revenge.
I used to do martial arts. I would never tryhard vs lower ranked belts or women.
My family used to run a Martial Arts studio before it had to get shut down because of Covid. Not all schools have their belt colors in the same order as well as may have different colors or patterns, some schools don't have the two-tone belts and some schools have camo belts, and also black belts have different degrees and it takes way longer than two years to get to black (I studied under may father for maybe five years and I believe I only got to red) That said, the black belt should know how to hold back their strength to make it even, especially if they were their instructor.
When skill based matchmaking fails
Skilled based matchmaking:
As a black belt in krav maga, I have had to do this before on both sides, I was a white belt and I had to go up against a Brown belt,.
I left with a couple bruises in my broken thumb and then 2 years later. I was a black bell and they decided to make me. Spar a blue boat about 2 ranks down from a black belt.
He left perfectly fine because I knew self-control,
because if you're leaving somebody with bruises after sparring, you're not spying right.
Matchmaking in any ranked game ever:
Skill based matchmaking
To be honest, this actually the most less scary "hey apple"
I agree.
I am a 2nd degree black belt, soon to be 3rd. Basically black belts should only spar other black belts. And color belt should stick to sparring each other
No. I been thru a few martial arts. Most of them you will spar with blackbelts. Both need to learn. Blackbelts mainly so they learn more control and how to gauge. Colored belts are inexperienced and you need someone to learn from. When I did TKD and a orange belt I fought all ranks. There was always 1 rule. You were never allowed to do higher level techniques or strikes higher than that colored belts level. And the blackbelts need to learn since you have to learn to teach at 1st degree. The chief instructor in charge is the person responsible for maintaining the control in the sessions. And sparring should be fun. Light nothing hard and heavy. There is other types of trading and sparring you do for the more serious levels. Like one is the closed/locked door policy. Or the blackbelt only class. Blackbelts and colored belts need to interact on all levels.
Honestly I sparred people with blue belts twice my size in jujitsu and yeah it’s pretty easy to get injured on accident. One dude scissor kicked my leg cause he wanted to experiment (it was illegal but he didn’t know that) and I was limp there for days. He apologized profusely and I held no grudge over it
Yeah, but this isn't the same situation by a long shot.
Irl matchmaking goes hard🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The song: Amazing Grace
The subtitles: touch oh make me great
As a second degree black belt in Taekwondo this was an extremely foolish match and this fight should never have happened. Shame on the guy for being so rough to a yellow belt who was additionally a female. He should have his black belt revoked ASAP
The reason it happened was because the coach got rejected by the girl
@@JacobBartlett-mh4xy oh that’s fucked up
@@JacobBartlett-mh4xy Feels something is missing, to make the coach even more mad, probably never said to him that she already have a boyfriend, and probably dated him more than once. This thing happens a lot here in the Philippines. She probably tried to trick him into becoming a sugar daddy.
@@nushia7192lets not assume things here
Also someone dumb enough to not run from a fight with a blackbelt probably cant come up with shit like this
@@nushia7192On what bases? None? So you just made it up in your head?
Half of America thinks that this is ok. The same way they were ok with Lia Thomas.
Black belts are not supposed to go full power against lower ranking belts and he only tried to injure her over the coach's unrequited crush.
@@melonsauce1474 Right. But half of America supports males vs females in sports where the scales would be tipped in the males favor.
@@luliu4572tbf, she was a yellow belt and he was a black belt, I'm pretty sure the people who advocate for mixed gender MMA or something like that are referring to female fighters who would also be a black belt or complete master in theyr form of art/arts (idk if black belt makes you a master or not since it probably varrys from art to art) so theyr odds against a male competitor should be much more even than you might think so long as they are within the same weight class I assume.
@@ElishaFolletaight lemme give you a few bio facts
Men have stronger bones (40%)
Men have denser muscules more muscule fiber so if a man and women look to have the same amount of muscle men have more fibers pulling and pushing (30%)
Men have around 15 times the testostrone women do which make men go ape shit in fights
So no having 2 or 3 big advantages means fighting is never gonna be fair between women and men
Stick to chest or some other sport
@@ElishaFolletyeah. I roughly agree that if someone is trained then they can fight untrained people regardless of gender or size. This was largely unfair. From the fact that he had 4+ years of experience on her to the fact that he probably weights more.
Surely that should result in the stripping of the black belt, it's a pretty dishonorable move
if anything she should be kicked out. no other yellow belts would take on a fight like that
@@TomBradshaw-ot9zbthe senior has the responsibility. I used to do kickboxing (Japanese style), got to purple which was one below black in that style. Having control, understanding your place in the ranks, and caring for the lower ranks was just as important as being able to roundhouse kick
@@TomBradshaw-ot9zbkick out for what? For rejecting her coach's romantic advances despite knowing that this girl is underage.
@@TomBradshaw-ot9zbdumb incel
@@clarkedenzel4339legal age in the Philippines is 16 + she has a boyfriend
That chart is way underselling the time, green belt took a few years to get for me..
As someone who did taekwondo, it’s not always about the belts but how much talent they had, i was a red belt and still sucked at sparring
Atleast she isn’t dead like the most of them
The first couple skill-based matchmaking rounds are gonna be like that 😵💫
Nah but fr I hope Jamie's okay. That was an absolutely unfair matchup.
yellow belt to black belt is unbeatable
It’s common and I even fight white, yellow and other belts as I’m 2nd degree black belt. Yeah it’s unbeatable but black are suppose to go easy on early belts especially on girls
@@Spartag1706 exactly. I could just imagine this guy throwing his best combos at her at full force lmao
@@Spartag1706 is it my class or we do sparring if you’re blue belt and higher belts?
I saw this post on Facebook and it's really saddening to see....
I’m going to tell you right now.
Karate isn’t a joke. It might seem kinda like a joke when you are armed with a gun but when you think about just some unprepared citizen it can legitametely kill. Be safe guys.
Imagine a 100lv fight with a 15lv
It’s fine to spar a black belt at a lower belt, however it probably should only be done if:
1. The lower belt has no one else to spar / they need to learn or need experience with a black belt
2. The black belt controls themselves and doesn’t go too hard
In this case, neither were taken to consideration
Why in the world were they even letting them fight?
Isn't it a strict rule to never make girls take on boys?
Unless the girl was YEARS ahead in experience, this shouldn't have been a matchup. My PE instructor literally would rather make the female students have multiple sparring partners than make them partner up with a guy, cuz he knows the gap in physical stats would be horrendous.
Eeh I only have about a year in training in kickboxing and this is only my personal current experience (so keep in mind this is probably different depending on the gym or something) but we have no issues with allowing both genders to sparr against each other just remember that you need to hold back on weaker opponents and that you are sparring not trying to kill each other lol (there's also a BJJ dojo near were I live that went to once since they were offering 1 free session for people so they could get more folks interested in coming back, and from what I can recall they didn't have issues with allowing the girls and boys to sparr with each other ether, i don't think gender really matters when it comes to training and I think it's pretty good that way tbh.)
Yea boys and girls shouldnt fight each other
Specially not with one being yellow belt and the other one being black belt
Because that's a social construct. The rule in martial arts is that you are supposed to fight those with your belt. If you're a black belt, you should only be able to fight a black belt and not someone who is clearly new
@@MagicToenail oh god you are one of those social construct creatures
@@aldrans1998 Are you angry? just say so
Skill based mm when you win 1 match
Sparring MMA against a woman I always went easier on them because it's an obvious advantage I have as a man, the fact this dude organized this match due to romantic motives is disturbing just as much as the guy who agreed to do it.
Dude was not expecting this
Don’t say it…. Don’t say it.. don’t say-
*FALCON KICK*
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I am black belt in taekwondo with 5 years of experience and what I can tell you is that a master has to supervise all times and make sure the other person is in the able state to fight. The difference should be fine as long as the black belt controls their power on the yellow belt. Otherwise, this shouldn’t be allowed because of the belt difference.
Back when I did taekwondo, one of the regular exercises was sparring with lower belts, and me training to pull my punches.
There have been times I was paired with like 3 white belts at once, all elementary school children. At the time I was around 12. I thought it was cute, but I learned a lot about self control through those sparring matches.
This is a sparring match. There really isn't anything wrong with having people of different genders or belts spar together. When I spar, my opponent and I are not trying to kill each other, it's a light match. If the person I'm sparring is much weaker than I am or less experienced, I take it easier. With people around my level, who can clearly take some hits, we'll be more aggressive. It's common sense. In an actual fight or tournament however? Genders should 100% be kept separate, and people of greatly different skill levels should not fight.
He went full power against her on request of the coach who was trying to groom her.
He hit above elbows despite this being sparring, they were also different weight classes by a wide margin and coach matched on purpose a black belt with her :(
We got irl clash royale matchmaking before gta 6💀
He's also a guy men are naturally stronger than women we like to pretend like sexual dimorphism doesn't exist anymore it definitely still does
Depends some men are just bones 😅
@@ezra8545 some women are also just bones put on average when it comes to humans men are 40% stronger than women distance fluctuate from individual to individual but this is the average
As a former Black Belt student under my master Ken back in Texas we was always Taught to “NEVER GO FULLPOWER ON LOWER OPPONENTS” it took me 6 years to become a 2 degree black belt studying Karate, Mu tai, Kung fu, and Krav Maga and if we were to ever go overboard on our opponents we were punished
Lets be realistic
If the belt were reversed the outcome were the same
Hey apple 😁
What?
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Nah, bro bullying low level npcs💀
...here in México it doesn't matter if the girl is a triple dan black belt, we don't mess with girls. I miss when this used to be common knowledge in the States as well...
Well because it isn't about gender. Black belts don't go full power with lower ranks and he only went full power due to the instructor asking him to punish her because she said no to his creepy advances.
robert probably never seen a black belt female mowing down a low level belt guy.
@@nushia7192 bro I didn't say she wouldn't beat our asses 😂 it's just something we don't do regardless. Heck, I have many girl-friends that definitely kick my ass and one of them is so tiny and weights 41kgs but black belt in taekwondo and I remember the time I held a "peto" which is how she calls those kickboxing thingys that are super thick and used to kick, held it on my chest and my stomach still hurt for another hour after she kicked. But again, in case it wasn't clear, we just don't mess with girls.
@@melonsauce1474 sorry man, I don't know their true stories or situations, and obviously don't know them personally, so sad if what you say it's true though. But what I said holds true here in México, nobody would tell any man to do that no matter the case.
Also take into conciteration that you are looking at the gradings for WT (world taekwondo) Which is easier to get.
If its IT/ITF (International taekwondo federation) The belt is harder to get.
ALSO
there are extra grades for black belts known as Dan, there are 9 of them so he could have trained even longer.
I did 4-5 years of Taekwondo and you are sometimes given these match ups as unofficial seesions as a sort of light practice. But as black tag myself, we are never to go full throttle on a lower class, it's more so experience and practice for the lower belts to get a feel for things and you as a higher up are able to give pointers if in a casual setting.
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When i heard “Hey apple!” I went FU**** OUT LOUD
Oh man, it suddenly reminds me of "Anong gusto mo? Bugbog o Dignidad" vibes 😢😢
I’m a black belt and the lowest belt level I sparred was probably a purple belt
I'm surprised the coach was stupid enough to let this happen but I'm even more surprised that someone who let this happen is a coach
Unfortunately, the coach was mad because the lady whom he had a crush on, had a boyfriend thus rejected him multiple times. As revenge, the coach forced her to spar with a black belt. 🥺
@@daintyduhditzy okay wtf
"You know it's serious when Santa isn't here" 🤖
Not only it would be still unfair if they were the same belt but theres a huge difference
hope she is okay.
I hope Jamie gets better. I hope everybody is ok.
As a former Taekwondo student (Blue belt) I'm glad that my coach was actually a decent person and cared for me even when I was feeling down. It just shows what a martial arts teacher should be.
I will never understand why people can’t hold back. Yes you’re better. You don’t need to absolutely hurt someone to show it
"this girl"
"his"
For more context, this has happened to be a crime. The "coach" was somehow allowing the black belt against the yellow belt. The black belt kick the yellow belt when yellow belt was already falling. Other people who had the same "coach" texted the yellow belt that the coach did the same thing to them which they call "abuse". The coach also did this because he was rejected.
I do martial arts, and im a brown belt (in karate). And we were told to NEVER hit hard to someone who's more then 2 belts diffrent from you, thats a big no- no to any martial arts.
Thats actually common, well the martial arts I do, bc a fights not always going to be fair