🔴 COMPARISON: New Voigtlander ULTRON 75mm f1.9 vs NOKTON 75mm f1.5 VM
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Comparing the new compact Voigtlander Ultron 75mm f1.9 vs Nokton 75mm f1.5 VM
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Thanks Matt I will have to give it a try, Looking forward catching up and doing some awesome stuff soon
I'm getting the SC version soon i'll bdo a full MC vs SC video. Yes looking forward to it! (I'll email you soon)
Hi Matt, nice video, quick but it says a lot.
Great to hear you are in contact with Peter, I am a long time follower of his channel and in the past I mentioned Voigtlander lenses to him and I am glad he tried at least one.
Love Peter's approach to shooting in studio, , big fan, the whole lighting setup, then camera set up and his (pre) edit.
His trick with his hand next to the screen to see wether the sharpness of a shot is realistic to his own hand was a huge eye opener for me.
I even made an action preset with his curves manipulation to get a silver kind of look, he likes so much.
I never miss a YT video.
Hope you guys can benefit both from your contacts.
Meanwhile keep doing great stuff, nice weekend, thanks for sharing
Thanks Rob!
Hey Matt
It’s great that you’re doing reviews on these Leica mount new product options
I don’t really believe the new equivalent original Leica lenses offer a huge improvement, but their cost is getting unaffordable for many
All the very best
Thanks Ronald!
I'm really interested in this lens. Great quick / mini review 👌
A longer comparison review between single and multi coated would be ideal 👍
Great as always 👍
Thanks Mike, yes i've requested the SC version so hopefully I can do this in the future.
Just the video I’m looking for - thanks!!!
Thanks Elie!
Excited to hear of the collab with Coulson. Hope you get to shoot Bec while you are at it.
Thanks! My lips are sealed ;)
I was just wondering the other day when you'll post a review, and wish granted. Thank you!!!
Great! Thanks Ralph!
Ahhh I’ve been waiting for this review!
Sorry it was a bit late coming out. I tried to post it before Italy but ran out of time.
I bought the 75mm F/1.5 when it came out and I love it. It is on my camera now as I type this. I like Matt was a total Leica lens addict until I started using the Voigtlander's. Mow I am just a Leica and Voitlander addict.
Thanks Erock! Happy it's not just me
Glad to see you discussing this lens as I'm interested; would like a 75 to use on my Bessa R3M and thought this one might be preferable vs. the 75/1.5 because of lighter weight and less viewfinder intrusion. BUT, you seem to favor the 75/1.5 at every aperture… is the 75/1.9 worth buying at all for portrait shots at f/2 - f/2.8, or does it simply not cut it? I do NOT want a “vintage look” as I'm a fan of very crisply rendered eyelashes!
Re your collaboration with Coulson, I used to watch him but am NOT a fan… got to seem too much like hanging around the Old Boys’ Clubhouse… still, I guess I can stick it out if you can keep him on-topic!
Thanks James, I liked the size of the 1.9 and by f2.8-4 they are simila. Wide open get the 1.5
after seeing your awesome review... i guess the only pros for the 1.9 compared to the 1.5 is only the smaller size.
thankyou for reviewing the 1.9.
Thanks, yes the small size is great for sure!
Hi Matt, great video. I am following this lens for a while and wonder how usable this lens would be on a Leica M mount camera. I own a Voigtlander R3A and an R2 would use it for street and portraiture.
The size is perfect for M mount. Stop it down and you'll be fine for accurate focusing on Voigtlander film bodies. (VF is less accurate than say a M3)
Hey Matt, thanks for the awesome videos. I have the Voightlander 40 1.2 that I use on my XPro3. It’s amazing. Can you recommend any wide-angle Voightlanders like the 21 or the 28 Ultron f2?
Thanks Andy! Yes I really like the 28 Ultron. I have it. The 21mm Skopar is tiny too. I have that aswell.
A very interesting lens and video.I would like to know more about the SC/MC differences if you get the chance, cheers.
Thanks Keith, yes I will try to get the SC copy so we can compare both
I noticed a Light Lens Lab 50/2 lens in your tests. Have you reviewed that one? I may have missed it. Thank you
Hi yes, see the "AI and Vintage Lens" recent videos for 2x 50/2 LLL videos (the footage of me holding the camera in Italy was with a LLL lens)
Hi Matt. Seems like your speed panchro 2 stole the scene. I saw that background and you holding the camera and it really grabbed my attention. I was one of the early purchasers however haven’t had a chance to use it yet
Yes and great to hear you've got one too. Still loving mine. See the blog post today over on MrLeica.com for sample photos (SPII)
Oooooh. Love the Biotar shots!!!
Thanks! Yes that Biotar is one of the best lenses I’ve ever shot with
0:30 what lens did you use to shoot the bts/b-roll there?
Glad you asked! Vintage Leica Summarit 50mm f1.5 M
Voigtlander has some very impressive lenses, and thanks to you, I've discovered that and I'm so delighted with the lens I bought last fall. I have a technical question, when shooting a very high contrast scene, what type of metering do you use? Is spot a good way to go? Thanks Matt for this great video!👍
Hi Lucy, yes I spot meter the highlights in the scene so not to blow them out. You can lift the shadows in post.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks Matt!
I want to know what lens you were using at 5:29 ,videoing yourself shooting. That background is awesome looking.
A few people asked the same! My new LLL Cooke Speed Panchro II (see the AI video and vintage lenses video)(recent)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom THAT looks like a Bad@$s lens!!!!!!.. .......Well no,, The look OF that lens looks that of a Bad@$s lens.
Great video! I, never looked for ultra sharpness ever! I only have older lenses. The Voiglander offer a smaller hi-speed. Small better! Those huge "Art" lenses, Zeiss monsters, the Leica offers for SL, Dinossaurus mass and foriegn state loans, beyond normal comprehension.
If you want every wrinkle, pimple and skin imperfection, you should never do portraiture! The entry of competition, esp. the 'TT' lenses in price! Even pros need to hesitate, on rising prices!! Let's see more images!
Thanks Jason!
I have a couple of M mount Voigtlander lenses (28mm Ultron f2 and 75mm heliar classic f1.8) and I like them a lot - but I hardly ever use them as, well, they aint Leica glass. I should probably get over myself. This new one looks interesting....
Hi Marc, i'm the opposite. I sold Leica lenses to use Voigtlander lenses instead so yes you can probably worry less about the brand and just enjoy the final photos. If a lens is good I will use it, any brand, but my preference is Leica cameras.
Hello Matt.. May i ask that which lens was used in 0:30 ?
Yes I'm happy you asked! Zeiss Biotar 75mm f1.5 lens was used to record that video footage. Please see the video I did on that specific lens. (It is amazing!)
Pretty cool how Voigtlander keeps adding lenses that look somewhat similar to their older ones but still fills a small niche for those who are looking for it. I wonder if they will do faster 90mm somewhere in the future..
Hey Thomas, yes! Agree I think there is space for a 90mm f1.9 :)
My big question is will that work on a GFX though? Cause e.g. the MGO Primoplan 75/1.9 definitely does cover that 44x33m sensor size with room to spare, so this new Ultron could be a compact portrait gem!
Hi Matt! Good tips for the new 75. Could you please share which lens was used at the minute five. Has an interesting swirl .
I would love to know this as well! Please thanks!
Thanks Irimie, i'm glad you spotted that footage! :) It was my new LLL Cooke Speed Panchro II 50mm f2
I'm glad you spotted that footage! :) It was my new LLL Cooke Speed Panchro II 50mm f2 ..full video still to come (see "Vintage lenses" recent video for more about it)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Sold
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom omg.... I was so looking forward to getting the 50 heliar classic, then you wave this piece of glass in my face. 😂 no I'm lost again hahahhah!
So after your portrait shoot, which lens do you like more?
1.5 is still the king for portraits but you can take nice shots with either lens.
Hope MrPreAsph soon arrive and enjoy the 75 Lux
Ha thanks!
If you don't need the sharpness of the F1.5 Nokton, I think the weight and size advantage of the F1.9 Ultron outweighs it. Also, the minimum focusing distance is a killer feature that can beat any Leica lens. This is a rare macro lens available for M digital cameras
Yes for those using M bodies only the 0.5m MFD will be a big win if using the EVF. (That's why I bought the 35mm f1.2 when that was announced years ago, to get closer). For those using the SL we can close focus any M lens.
I have another comparition recommendation 🙂, the new Sigma 50 mm dgdn f2 vs the voigtlander 50 mm f2 😉
I'm sure I'll be able to do this at some point!
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Hey Mr. Voigtlaender😁I found out the 1.5 and 1.9 are both have very much similar optical construction (maybe differ from elements' size aspect), except Nokton got aspheric-surface lens on rear-most element.
Maybe they found place to improve from 1.5 Nokton, who knows🤔
Will coating make that big of a difference? (between SC & MC)
Improvement I mean is, they glued two more elements, and I thought could it be seen as some kinda improvement....? You know, aspheric surface commonly causes onion ring bokeh. (with some exceptions...)
Thanks great point.. full video to come SC & MC but to my eyes the 1.5 is the winner (except size!) I’m not blown away with the 1.9
The 75mm 1.8 Heliar Classic wide open might be ‘the look’ for b&w.
Thanks Joseph, yes great tip!
I got the back paint version to stick on my BP M4 ... thing is I keep using it on my CL :) Still I`m very happy with the size and rendering.
Thanks Michael, yes the size is very CL friendly! :)
I'm suika.D.
Thank you for your always helpful review.
I have a Leica M-D (typ262) *with a model without a rear LCD
I am using M3.
The lens is Summilux 50 f 1.4 (1st) and most of the shots are taken.
I mainly shoot portraits of people and dogs.
Summilux 50f1.4 (1st) is a versatile lens and I really like it.
Also, could you give me some advice on how to choose a lens suitable for portraiture?
I chose 4 of them based on your review.
1. Leica 90f4 Elmar
2.Leica135f4Elmar
3.Voigtlander Ultron 75f1.9
4. Nokton 75f1.5
Leica90f4Elmar and Leica135f4Elmar are old lenses, but they have sufficient performance.
Both lenses seem fine for me to use.
80% indoor shots and 20% outdoor shots.
It's cheap to buy two, so you can buy both, but Leica M-D (typ262) and
Is it okay to focus on the M3's small frame?
Do you need a 135mm lens? Would 90mm be enough?
Voigtlander Ultron75f1.9 and Nokton75f1.5 are very attractive.
However, the problem is that the 75mm frame does not come out when using it with M3...
M-D (typ262 can be used without problems, so from Leica90f4Elmar, Leica135f4Elmar
If the image is overwhelmingly different, either Voigtlander Ultron75f1.9 or Nokton75f1.5
I would like to choose You can buy a new product, so you don't have to worry about hitting or missing.
Should I choose Voigtlander Ultron75f1.9 or Nokton75f1.5?
I'd get 75 1.5 or Leica 90mm f2 Pre-ASPH for portraits
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thank you for your reply.
If Nokton 75mm f1.5 and Leica 90mm f2 are recommended, I think I will decide on Nokton 75mm f1.5 for budget reasons.
Ultron 75mm f1.9 compact and lightweight is also attractive. The depiction seems to have a strong vintage color, but is it not suitable for portraits?
@@user-ym3ct8ms8e used Leica is much cheaper but bigger. Needs to be the pre-asph old version.
@@user-ym3ct8ms8e 1.9 nice but can’t compete with other 2 lenses
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thank you for your reply!
Actually, I tried the Ultron 75 f1.9 SC today.
The peculiar bokeh gives it a vintage flavor. It was a soft image. I like it.
I don't have the Nocton 75 f1.5, so I can't compare.
Nocton 75 f1.5 is a subject that emerges from bokeh. It's like watching a 3D image. Even sample images have an impact.
I think I will buy the Nocton 75 f1.5.
Thank you for your advice!
The background rendering in 4:59 is absolutely stunning. Has this sequence been shot with 75mm 1.5 ?
Thanks! No the new LLL Cooke Speed Panchro II 50mm f2 (1940s cine lens replica)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom geez thanks for your reply :)
Or, maybe, "Mr. Leica and Dr. Voigtlander."
Haha :)
Nah. The Ultron at f1.9 is just poor.
Yes 1.5 is better wide open