I was surprised when they had that guys face under the Ares mask. That was awesome though, just thought he would be entirely CG, with like a black shadow face and red eyes.
For as much crap as Marvel takes for having made so many movies before having a female led one...they don't really own a character that deserved to be "the first" of this generation. Black Widow and Captain Marvel are cool...but they aren't Wonder Woman. I'm glad the DCEU has its first good film with this one, and this character specifically.
Gooter Hagen It's true DC women heroes are much more capable of leading a movie about them whereas with marvel they have a few good sidekick females but no real leaders.
Regarding Themiscyra's location, given its Greco-Roman origins, it makes sense to be in the Mediterranean, potentially by Asia Minor, so a Semitic accent makes sense. And Dr. Poison is a classic Wonder Woman villain. She showed up way back in Sensation Comics #2.
Accents morph over time, sure, but "Semitic" can refer to Israelis, Palestinian Arabs, Bedouins, and Assyrians. That's a pretty broad net. Themiscyra, in Greek myth, was located in Turkey. Close enough.
Wonder Woman understands that the real enemy is the belief in war which comes from Aries, she has love for humans and knows that if this belief or thought or idea of war is destroyed then humanity is saved
Marc you stated that black people were not in WWI but they were. The most decorated unit there was the 369th called the Harlem Hellfighters. They fought with French troops because the Americans did not want them. The French loved them and awarded them well. So, Black people were there.......big time.
France and Germany had black troops as well, among others I'm sure. Colonialism yo. Lots of Indians died fighting for Britain to prove they earned independance and they didn't even get it.
s. elmore Agreed and not only were there black troops from the U.S., there were black Africans too. There were so many types of people, countries, & battlegrounds in WW1. People just think about the western front trenches but WW1 involved WAY more territory and battles than just that lol.
The Greek mythology side of Wonder Woman is really fascinating. imagine having Zeus as your Father.. that's terrifying lol. I am totally stoked to see this. Seeing it tonight at 10.
I have to correct you guys. Ares knew exactly who Diana was the whole time. He even made a statement at the end of the movie that he thought about destroying her when she got to London but decided to use her instead.
6 years old and still an absolute beta comment , have some pride ....I have no problem with a female lead being the central focus but the movies were mediocre at best , the supergirl in the new flash movie was 100% more interesting and would deserve these kind of accolades for her performance
I remember back when I was a real little kid, and the linda carter WW show was being aired, I would go run around in my yard wearing wonder woman underoos, a lasso made of thick blue fishing line, and paper wrist gauntlets colored with gold crayon. (yes I'm a girl...)
That no man's land sequence almost brought me to tears from the swelling of a wide range of emotions, most pride. This is by far one of the best superhero movies I've seen, and depending on how my second viewing goes it might take my top spot.
When Kevin talks about Cheetah v Wonder Woman I immediately thought of a scene with Bruce. On the phone Diana: Hey Bruce there seems to be a 'cat woman' causing trouble. Bruce: Really Selina's in France Diana: You know her?
I agree for the most part. But, Marc has a soft spot towards diversity. And a bias when he feels there's a lack there of. His Iron Fist hate was way over the top. I think the diversity thing played heavily in his assessment of that show. I don't remember, but I'd bet he gave Ghostbusters (2016) a positive review.
That's what I thought before his Iron Fist review. He embarrassed himself there and showed areas where his opinions can be very unobjective and untrustworthy.
Minor correction, Wonder Woman is a demi-god (like Hercules). And second, throughout her comic book history, Wonder Woman can be subdued by her own Lasso if a man wraps her in it.
When it comes to female superheroes, more than anything, I want to see Miller and Sienkiewicz Elektra Assassin come to life on the big screen. The graphic novel is brilliant and reads like a movie. Great characters too.
One thing I noticed was that after Wonder Woman defeats Antiope and there's that huge burst of energy, the next scene has Steve crashing through the barrier and being followed by soldiers... kind of like the god of war found her the instant she used her powers for the first time. It's just interesting to me that Hippolyta said the stronger Diana gets, the sooner Ares will find her and it seems like she was right!
listen-John Ronald Reuel Tolkien was in World War 1 and experienced the horrors of the war as a lieutenant...it painted his views about war in his works-especially The Silmarillion,the hobbit and the LOTR..check his biography. anyway..THIS IS ABOUT Wonder Woman-it was an ok flick..i agree that the last part could have been better.
Actually Ares said he knew who she was and could have taken care of her earlier but he wanted her to find out for herself that man is not good... how did you missed that? In the comics Ares uses his powers to influence and manipulates.
I think Marc's argument against the villains is really stupid, if Ares revealed himself to Diana earlier in the film it would have ruined the twist that Sir Patrick was really Ares and not Ludendorff.
I still can't get over that No man's land scene. I had goosebumps all over my body. It was so fantastic!!! This movie was really good. Everyone should go see it.
I could totally see a sequel to Wonder Woman, and have it set in World War II. You could have Circe be the main villain with Giganta alongside as her right hand henchman. You could then bring in Apache Chief/Long Shadow who is playing the part of a Wind Talker unit since Giganta is considered an archenemy to both Wonder Woman and Long Shadow. Just sayin
not really especially seeing that the marvel ultimates universe ( which is what the movie universe was based off of ) totally ignores the secret defenders which cap was a part of int he original comics before hte avengers existed. and lets be honest Most if not ALL comics started just before ww2 Marvel was a latecomer in the 50s DC existed just prior to ww2 i meen shit Sandman is actually older than Batman
Have to say, I saw Man From U.N.C.L.E. and I loved it. Agreed it's very underrated! Henry Cavill is DC's best decision yet. Also, I did not want to like King Arthur, but it was a super fun movie, perfect movie for summer time. Enjoyed it way more than I ever thought I would. Love your videos and your reviews guys! Thanks for doing this :)
+BushidoBrownSama You're welcome. I usually don't like spoilers but I doubt I'll see this before it hits disc format, so anything here will be long forgotten by then. What did you think of WW? No spoilers of course, just the general feeling you got from it. :-)
I'm a 50 yr old woman. I can tell you guys, hand on heart, remembering when I was about 7,in the early 70s, watching Superfriends and feeling so disheartened that Wonder Woman had so little to do. I remember feeling so frustrated that the dudes had all the main storylines, and WW was relegated to the 'B' plot. I still remember thinking,'All she does is get kidnapped and fly the silly invisible plane'.(I now think the plane is kinda cool, but at the time it represented everything wrong with how they used her in the show. )She just sat in the plane and had a clipped weird way of talking and doing very little. She'd lasso some third rate monster and do lady-like kicks and was hardly an aspirational figure. I'm so happy for my 11 y.o niece that 40 odd years later, she'll go see a cool female superhero, who is kind and brave and kickass. Thank you to the filmmakers for finally making a cool female superhero film. It's taken 43 yrs for the 7 yr old me to get her wish, but we got there at last.
to me ww1 worked because it was the first world war so of course hades would be responsible so when she defeats him she thinks there will be peace forever then ww2 and the rest of history came around with no hades and she realises mankind is fucked up so why should i help them, hence why she disappears for such a long time.
3:05 exactly. That Soundtrack does Carry so much of her Character. It is incredible. I'm glad that they picked people for this character and this movie.
If Wonder Woman is in current time, what happens to Steve Trevor? He's in his 30s in World War I, isn't he? That would mean in todays world he'd be over 100. Even World War II would be 20 years later, that would make him 50. What happens to Wonder Woman's special guy? Does she get a new one for each movie?
Yeah, I was hoping for Chris to come back with his role in the film, as I saw his parts in the trailers. Haven't seen the film, but maybe if something happens to his character and he becomes popular enough, he'll get brought back somehow, for at least the sequel.🙏
Marc and Kevin, I've got a couple thoughts to share: 1. I always appreciate how in depth and detailed you guys are in your discussions of your thoughts during movie review episodes. However, I think there's one thing missing from this one. I know you talked about it a little bit, but I really wish you guys had talked more about how you though Gal Gadot did in the role of Diana/Wonder Woman. Personally I think she was fantastic. Diana is an extremely multifaceted character. She's kind, strong, intelligent, emotional, vulnerable, compassionate, fierce, stubborn, optimistic, warm, and a great leader. I think Gal was able to wonderfully embody all of those qualities in a truly believable way. 2. As a young woman, I completely identify with what you guys were saying about how you thought it must feel to be a girl watching this film. I cried tears of happiness watching those amazons defending Themyscira. The only thought running through my head for that whole scene was, "look at all these beautiful, strong women doing these things." 3. I'd definitely fuck Steve Trevor too. Can't wait to see your Spiderman Homecoming review!
I was one of those women who had been waiting their whole life to see Wonder Woman on screen. She has been my favorite Superhero since I was 4 years old. Lynda Carter came to a mall by our house and I made my mother go and get her autograph. I cried when I saw No Man's Land... That was the Wonder Woman I always wanted to see. I am so happy that all the little girls growing up today have this movie....and have this Wonder Woman!!!
I don't want any spoilers, can someone just tell me whether or not they liked it please? I'm probably gonna go see it this weekend either way. Pretty sure it's out by then.
Man, Kevin shoots more loads than most porn stars. Well shit, I'm looking forward to it even more now. If this is the general consensus then hopefully they can keep it going.
I've seen it TWICE (at a screening AND the LA premiere) and aI can't wait to watch it again (hopefully in IMAX!). I know a lot of guys who liked it. It's a movie everyone can enjoy! The humor is awesome too!
There is another reason why they chose WWI over WWII and that is because one of the main ideas of the movie was that the mankind in general, regardless of the side, has the equal potential to be good and bad, of which Wonder Woman had a inner conflict about whether to put faith in humanity or not based on her experiences in warfare. (SPOILER) That is why Ares turns out to be on the English side rather than the Germans. You would not be able to do that with WWII, in which the Nazi Germany, as portrayed in number of movies, was the pure evil.
Yeah but in Greek legends, Amazons were considered completely crazy and evil; their stories used Amazons as villains in the way we use Orcs or Stormtroopers as villains that can be killed without remorse. So it is OK they changed some things for the Amazons, and Gal doesn't have to sound Greek IMO.
Brazzers make awful parodies. They get good costumes but the scripts are crap and porn stars look gross. Someone will probably make a good Wonder Woman porno but it won't be Brazzers.
I'm glad critics and haters finally like a DC movie, still annoyed that they're still throwing crap at the other dceu films, Suicide Squad: Had its flaws but still fun to watch and had some likable characters (Deadshot, Harley, Diablo). BvS: Also many problems but had great memorable scenes (Mad max batman, warehouse scene, Wonder Woman). But MOS: If that movie doesn't move you, then I don't know what will.
Hey! You guys have a pixel out on your main camera. It isn't my monitor and it isn't on the Kevincam. It's on the main, a little left and just below center. It's driving me nuts!
So the part where Steve Trevor sacrifices to destroy the plane full of poison gas doesn't remember you of when Captain America doies it in his first movie
only superficially. I mean they are both about sacrifice and being on a plane. but the character journey is in fact not the same, also as a pilot it is a logical way for him to handle the situation.
Also, with WWI is also a war she become disillusioned against all wars; and nobody can point to a legitimate evil villain. Were as WWII has a few things you can point to as good reasons for it to be fought.
I took my niece to see this film over the week end and it made me cry not the movie per say ( it was in fact awesome) I cried because I got to watch this little girl see her hero come to life and experience the world of movies and comics in a way that as a white male I have been able to do for a very long time. I remember growing up I got Luke sky walker and Superman and Michael Kenton's batman...etc.. and I loved them all but sharing these things with my sister where hard because she never got to see anyone that represented her as a strong hero. Now here we are me and her daughter seeing wonder woman. for 2 hours and 45 min this little girl is glued to her seat bouncing up and down in her chair every time wonder woman kicks ass on screen. this movie will always be special to me and a very excited 10year old.
Hey Mark and Kevin; I am an old girl and tears streamed down my face when Wonder Woman climbed out of that trench. And the smiles of the Amazons as they ride into battle gave me chills.
I dont wanna sound cheesy or whatever, but I AM LOVING THE WORLD REGARDING FEMINISM RIGHT NOW. I mean even these guys are acting like feminists by seeing gal in an equal perspective and respect as themselves. 😀👍🏼👍🏼
Kevin, I'm going to keep this short, but just to let you know, I saw Star Wars in 1977, I was 7 at the time: I'm the same age as you, and we share a lot in common in our experiences with entertainment growing up. Apparently a love for Wonder Woman is not one of those things. I grew up with a younger sister, and we watched the old Wonder Woman show without fail, and we BOTH loved. It. I can honestly say with a straight face and as a straight, married man of 47, I, too, have been waiting mu whole life for this. As soon as I heard today that it was actually a good movie, I called my sister. We rarely get together, but this Saturday we're going to watch Wonder Woman, and we will BOTH be cheering.
That 1974 deal was a made-for-TV "movie of the week," which means it probably wasn't even long enough to count as a feature film without the padding of commercials. And having seen it, I can testify that its blonde chick in head-to-toe spandex had little relation to Wonder Woman beyond the title.
Aries did have an Ahh Haa moment, when she was in the meeting with all the Generals. Aries pauses and stares at her. Later he helps her and Steve get out to the front lines, obviously because he wanted WW to see the horrors that mankind inflicts upon it's self. Before the final fight he says that he is the god of truth, and he wanted her to see the truth. He may whisper the weapons but it is mankind that decides to use them or not. His beef was with Zeus and the other gods because they refused to see that Zeus' greatest creation, man, was not as innocent as the gods lied to themselves to believe.
Ilya Kuryakin was played by David McCallum, who also starred in the 1975-76 "Invisible Man" series, and has spent more than a decade now as "Ducky" on NCIS.
What a great review. Have not seen Wonder Woman yet, but have wanted to see it since I heard Gal Gadot was going to play Diana Prince/Wonder Woman. Now after both of your high praise, I definitely want to see it.! Thanks, guys!
I did not agree with Steve Trevor dieing. They should have made it ambiguous. Hopefully Wonder Woman 2 will tell us why she hung up her tiara and lasso.
I love your reviews, you guys say the things I think most of the time! But I do think Ares knew who Diana was from when he's first introduced to her. That's why he comes to "help" her and Steve, to stay close to her and what they're doing. I didn't like how/what had to happen for her to get that boost of strength to fight Ares but I did love that sequence. I LOVED this movie!!
It really did hit me that this was the first comic movie where a woman was the hero for the whole movie, it gave me chills. it really was awesome to see and hear girls in the audience lose their shit during the whole movie, they were squelling like it was a Justin beiber concert lol
Emilio Barzini This entire universe cinematic universe has been a train-wreck so far, & anyone who can't see that are passengers. Wonder Woman getting better buzz than the previous installments is a good thing, & it IS because the previous installments have been heaping piles of shit. This is a GOOD thing.
marcs review of the defenders trailer will be something like I thought daredevil looked good was impressed with luke cage and Jessica jones but iron fist ruined it by being white but I only watched the first 30 seconds but I could tell
The villain and hero does not need to be on a crash course with each other. Also Ares was aware of her as soon as she broke into the meeting. That's why Ares put her on a course to see humanities darkness, try to turn her to his side.
Shifty McGearjam honestly its ok, suffers some of the same issues as other dc films. 3rd act is a cgi blow out, at times feels like it takes a while to get there. she gets kinda lost for a bit because of Chris Pine, his performance and way he was written just over shadowed some of her performance, plus the "rag tag team" put together all male as well -_- reduces your connection to the main character. compared to the other dc films, ww is the hottest girl on the room 8/10 so if your a dc fan you love it, in the grand skeem of big money movies it's above middle of the road 6-7/10 so if you can suspend disbelief, forgiving some weakness to the story and are looking for a little fun mixed with fish out of water (many times over) romcom spend your 20 bills. on the other hand if your looking for a movie that is here to say something and be original, you'll get a few moments of that, mixed with pulling alot from past success of other comic movie titles, surrounded by the typical stuff. weak 6/10, but hey it is a super hero movie, ment for kids and nostalgia alike, it's worth a trip to the theater..... unless you haven't guardians then go see that, see that twice. hope that helps.
Kyle s Wtf. WW is waay better than gotg v2, and ive seen guardians 3 times. You have to be a marvel fanboy if u didnt think WW was better, i just cant understand ppl liking guardians more
I loved the scene in the train station when she tasted ice cream for the first time. They had to have pulled that straight from the Wonder Woman animated film. I was so so happy to see that. The movie was awesome!
I saw Wonder Woman with my mom yesterday and afterwards we were at the local grocery store talking to the cashier about it. She told us how her mother had always loved Wonder Woman. They are both Israeli, so it made them excited and proud to see an Israeli actress play a superhero.
Why does Kevin always say Marc's ideas are so great? He just wants everything to be like Marvel... He starts saying negative things about the movie because the hero and villain don't know each other?? So what... he wants war, she wants to end the war... there's your fucking connection Marc. I think he will just find anything to say "I love marvel more"
Dan S agreed. I didn't bother watching the black panther trailer review because I know it'll just be Marc bumping marvel and Kevin agreeing with everything he says and saying he should write for marvel. Also I 100% guarantee that Marc will be all like "finally a black superhero film"... like he he didn't blade 1, 2 or Trinity.
People make fun of me because my favourite superhero is the Falcon from Captain America but they weren't there and I can't describe the feeling when I turned the page of a Daredevil comic and saw, for the first time, a black man in a superhero costume...full splash page with wings out and everything...so magnificent.
For the record, There were black Americans involved in world war one. They were promised at least a couple acres of land for volunteering, and when they came back they didn't get what the USA promised. A lot of WW1 vets camped outside the white house in protest and were eventually bulldozed out of the area. I mean literally bulldozed. We did that shit.
I just saw it yesterday. When the opening musical notes of her theme started as the film started, I realized finally I was getting a Wonder Woman movie and I teared up and was almost sobbing in the theater! So emotional in that moment and just so happy. And the movie didn't disappoint - so so good. Wow. Gonna see it again.
The DCEU was waiting for Gadot.
And Amazon delivered.
KingOfMadCows nothing to be done....
*slow clap*
I'm beginning to come round to that opinion.
Quaquaqua
KingOfMadCows did DC use prime?
If y'all have seen the animated Wonder Woman movie, that last fight with Ares happened at night. So I wasn't surprised it was at night here.
Katie Herzig your right, she demolished him
I was surprised when they had that guys face under the Ares mask. That was awesome though, just thought he would be entirely CG, with like a black shadow face and red eyes.
Katie Herzig yeah but this movie is better
For as much crap as Marvel takes for having made so many movies before having a female led one...they don't really own a character that deserved to be "the first" of this generation. Black Widow and Captain Marvel are cool...but they aren't Wonder Woman. I'm glad the DCEU has its first good film with this one, and this character specifically.
Gooter Hagen - YASSSS 😎🤘
Gooter Hagen
It's true DC women heroes are much more capable of leading a movie about them whereas with marvel they have a few good sidekick females but no real leaders.
+Yankeefan24 The DCEU never needed saving !!! There's no way a 2.4 Billion dollar franchise would need saving !
Gooter Hagen they had Wasp who is a founding member of the avengers, but they killed her off screen...
as someone who likes marvel considerably more I completely agree. 100% no one deserves it more.
The question is...did Kevin cry watching this movie?
timothy willox - Probably 😂
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His penis cried milky white tears of joy😂😂✌️
B-dawg8504 IDK if I ought to hit Like or Dislike. Hilarious yet hideous.
timothy willox I teared up and shouted, "You go gurl!"
Did you see Bruce wayne's reaction to the rotten tomato score?
"She's always Wonder Woman." Damn Marc, that part was deep brotha. 👍🏽
It was!!
Regarding Themiscyra's location, given its Greco-Roman origins, it makes sense to be in the Mediterranean, potentially by Asia Minor, so a Semitic accent makes sense.
And Dr. Poison is a classic Wonder Woman villain. She showed up way back in Sensation Comics #2.
Accents morph over time, sure, but "Semitic" can refer to Israelis, Palestinian Arabs, Bedouins, and Assyrians. That's a pretty broad net.
Themiscyra, in Greek myth, was located in Turkey. Close enough.
Wonder Woman understands that the real enemy is the belief in war which comes from Aries, she has love for humans and knows that if this belief or thought or idea of war is destroyed then humanity is saved
18:25 Kevin: I'm not gonna say who the bad guy is.. Marc: I mean Ares is the bad guy xD I LOVE YOU TWO
I just like saying Patty Jenkins :)
Shane Silver your pic is amazing
Sister-in-arms to Leeroy.
i can never badmouth a fellow Jenkins.
Almost as good as saying Cellar Door ;)
Marc you stated that black people were not in WWI but they were. The most decorated unit there was the 369th called the Harlem Hellfighters. They fought with French troops because the Americans did not want them. The French loved them and awarded them well. So, Black people were there.......big time.
s. elmore sounds like a great movie idea
"big time" nope. Sorry, small time, miniscule time in fact.
France and Germany had black troops as well, among others I'm sure. Colonialism yo. Lots of Indians died fighting for Britain to prove they earned independance and they didn't even get it.
The parties weren't exactly the same 100 years ago.
s. elmore Agreed and not only were there black troops from the U.S., there were black Africans too. There were so many types of people, countries, & battlegrounds in WW1. People just think about the western front trenches but WW1 involved WAY more territory and battles than just that lol.
The Greek mythology side of Wonder Woman is really fascinating. imagine having Zeus as your Father.. that's terrifying lol. I am totally stoked to see this. Seeing it tonight at 10.
Yes, doctor poison is among the earliest wonder woman villians.
Her, egg fu, circe, ares, nazis
Patty Jenkins also directed some of the best "The Killing" episodes. So, I always had faith in her
I have to correct you guys. Ares knew exactly who Diana was the whole time. He even made a statement at the end of the movie that he thought about destroying her when she got to London but decided to use her instead.
I may be a guy, but I really think Wonder Woman should be the center of the DCEU. Her character is amazing, and I can't wait to watch this!
6 years old and still an absolute beta comment , have some pride ....I have no problem with a female lead being the central focus but the movies were mediocre at best , the supergirl in the new flash movie was 100% more interesting and would deserve these kind of accolades for her performance
I remember back when I was a real little kid, and the linda carter WW show was being aired, I would go run around in my yard wearing wonder woman underoos, a lasso made of thick blue fishing line, and paper wrist gauntlets colored with gold crayon. (yes I'm a girl...)
That no man's land sequence almost brought me to tears from the swelling of a wide range of emotions, most pride. This is by far one of the best superhero movies I've seen, and depending on how my second viewing goes it might take my top spot.
When Kevin talks about Cheetah v Wonder Woman I immediately thought of a scene with Bruce.
On the phone
Diana: Hey Bruce there seems to be a 'cat woman' causing trouble.
Bruce: Really Selina's in France
Diana: You know her?
Come here specifically to hear Mark's opinion. Love Kevin, but he tends to like everything. Mark gives it to me straight.
I agree for the most part. But, Marc has a soft spot towards diversity. And a bias when he feels there's a lack there of. His Iron Fist hate was way over the top. I think the diversity thing played heavily in his assessment of that show. I don't remember, but I'd bet he gave Ghostbusters (2016) a positive review.
Rollo Tamasi yeah he praised it. I like his straight man approach but the SJW in him comes out sometimes and it's over the top.
I disagree. I think his Iron Fist hate was deserved. IF, compared to other Marvel Netflix shows, was terrible.
That's what I thought before his Iron Fist review. He embarrassed himself there and showed areas where his opinions can be very unobjective and untrustworthy.
He was too hard on iron fist he didn't even finish watching it...
Minor correction, Wonder Woman is a demi-god (like Hercules). And second, throughout her comic book history, Wonder Woman can be subdued by her own Lasso if a man wraps her in it.
When it comes to female superheroes, more than anything, I want to see Miller and Sienkiewicz Elektra Assassin come to life on the big screen. The graphic novel is brilliant and reads like a movie. Great characters too.
One thing I noticed was that after Wonder Woman defeats Antiope and there's that huge burst of energy, the next scene has Steve crashing through the barrier and being followed by soldiers... kind of like the god of war found her the instant she used her powers for the first time. It's just interesting to me that Hippolyta said the stronger Diana gets, the sooner Ares will find her and it seems like she was right!
Good catch
will watch wonder woman..quick fact JRR TOLKIEN was in world war 1 and the horrors of the war made him create The Lord of The Rings.
DAVID RAMASES Tolkein World War *2* I think.
DAVID RAMASES although he himself was adamant that Lord of the rings was NOT an allegory for WW1.....
MikeD WW2 not WW1.
listen-John Ronald Reuel Tolkien was in World War 1 and experienced the horrors of the war as a lieutenant...it painted his views about war in his works-especially The Silmarillion,the hobbit and the LOTR..check his biography.
anyway..THIS IS ABOUT Wonder Woman-it was an ok flick..i agree that the last part could have been better.
nope, WW I
I think the amazing thing was that the original script they started to shoot with is the one they finished with, no rewrites or reshoots.
The Amazonians in battle was epic!
Actually Ares said he knew who she was and could have taken care of her earlier but he wanted her to find out for herself that man is not good... how did you missed that? In the comics Ares uses his powers to influence and manipulates.
I think Marc's argument against the villains is really stupid, if Ares revealed himself to Diana earlier in the film it would have ruined the twist that Sir Patrick was really Ares and not Ludendorff.
soberchimera61 the villains in this movie sucked ass. I hated them all
I still can't get over that No man's land scene. I had goosebumps all over my body. It was so fantastic!!! This movie was really good. Everyone should go see it.
I could totally see a sequel to Wonder Woman, and have it set in World War II. You could have Circe be the main villain with Giganta alongside as her right hand henchman. You could then bring in Apache Chief/Long Shadow who is playing the part of a Wind Talker unit since Giganta is considered an archenemy to both Wonder Woman and Long Shadow. Just sayin
pity Captain America already covered that war and very well
not really especially seeing that the marvel ultimates universe ( which is what the movie universe was based off of ) totally ignores the secret defenders which cap was a part of int he original comics before hte avengers existed. and lets be honest Most if not ALL comics started just before ww2 Marvel was a latecomer in the 50s DC existed just prior to ww2 i meen shit Sandman is actually older than Batman
Have to say, I saw Man From U.N.C.L.E. and I loved it. Agreed it's very underrated! Henry Cavill is DC's best decision yet. Also, I did not want to like King Arthur, but it was a super fun movie, perfect movie for summer time. Enjoyed it way more than I ever thought I would. Love your videos and your reviews guys! Thanks for doing this :)
is this spoiler free?
I'm only half way through and it's full of spoilers. Don't watch if that bothers you.
BushidoBrownSama Not really I turned it off after they just blasted through a few scenes from the movie
Thx guys I decided to play it safe and I stopped before I could get spoiled but now I have seen the movie and I'm quite happy I did
+BushidoBrownSama You're welcome. I usually don't like spoilers but I doubt I'll see this before it hits disc format, so anything here will be long forgotten by then.
What did you think of WW? No spoilers of course, just the general feeling you got from it. :-)
lwaves I love it. The first DCEU movie I loved (MoS was close but it has some issues.)
I'm a 50 yr old woman. I can tell you guys, hand on heart, remembering when I was about 7,in the early 70s, watching Superfriends and feeling so disheartened that Wonder Woman had so little to do. I remember feeling so frustrated that the dudes had all the main storylines, and WW was relegated to the 'B' plot. I still remember thinking,'All she does is get kidnapped and fly the silly invisible plane'.(I now think the plane is kinda cool, but at the time it represented everything wrong with how they used her in the show. )She just sat in the plane and had a clipped weird way of talking and doing very little. She'd lasso some third rate monster and do lady-like kicks and was hardly an aspirational figure. I'm so happy for my 11 y.o niece that 40 odd years later, she'll go see a cool female superhero, who is kind and brave and kickass. Thank you to the filmmakers for finally making a cool female superhero film. It's taken 43 yrs for the 7 yr old me to get her wish, but we got there at last.
to me ww1 worked because it was the first world war so of course hades would be responsible so when she defeats him she thinks there will be peace forever then ww2 and the rest of history came around with no hades and she realises mankind is fucked up so why should i help them, hence why she disappears for such a long time.
ManlyPelican Ares*
My bad
ManlyPelican 😜
3:05 exactly. That Soundtrack does Carry so much of her Character. It is incredible. I'm glad that they picked people for this character and this movie.
If Wonder Woman is in current time, what happens to Steve Trevor? He's in his 30s in World War I, isn't he? That would mean in todays world he'd be over 100. Even World War II would be 20 years later, that would make him 50. What happens to Wonder Woman's special guy? Does she get a new one for each movie?
Yeah, I was hoping for Chris to come back with his role in the film, as I saw his parts in the trailers. Haven't seen the film, but maybe if something happens to his character and he becomes popular enough, he'll get brought back somehow, for at least the sequel.🙏
Maybe she doesn't have one... :(
Cassie Banks Next movie, she gets a special girl.
Cassie Banks You're gonna be real disappointed when you watch it 😂
Hong Kong Hermit Or Superman!
Regarding the amazons speaking in Gal's accent for the sake of consistency, dude the Germans were speaking full on English.
Yeah doctor poison was at least in wonder woman new 52, and I got the vibe she wasn't new cause they didn't really do a back story.
This female version in the film is from the late 90s.
Marc and Kevin, I've got a couple thoughts to share:
1. I always appreciate how in depth and detailed you guys are in your discussions of your thoughts during movie review episodes. However, I think there's one thing missing from this one. I know you talked about it a little bit, but I really wish you guys had talked more about how you though Gal Gadot did in the role of Diana/Wonder Woman. Personally I think she was fantastic. Diana is an extremely multifaceted character. She's kind, strong, intelligent, emotional, vulnerable, compassionate, fierce, stubborn, optimistic, warm, and a great leader. I think Gal was able to wonderfully embody all of those qualities in a truly believable way.
2. As a young woman, I completely identify with what you guys were saying about how you thought it must feel to be a girl watching this film. I cried tears of happiness watching those amazons defending Themyscira. The only thought running through my head for that whole scene was, "look at all these beautiful, strong women doing these things."
3. I'd definitely fuck Steve Trevor too.
Can't wait to see your Spiderman Homecoming review!
Holy Shit, Chris Pine was in Smokin' Aces??...totally missed it
Mike Brown yeah him and Ben Affleck
Mike Brown he was the leader of the crew of whackos that were dressed as the hotel employees
I was one of those women who had been waiting their whole life to see Wonder Woman on screen. She has been my favorite Superhero since I was 4 years old. Lynda Carter came to a mall by our house and I made my mother go and get her autograph. I cried when I saw No Man's Land... That was the Wonder Woman I always wanted to see. I am so happy that all the little girls growing up today have this movie....and have this Wonder Woman!!!
I don't want any spoilers, can someone just tell me whether or not they liked it please? I'm probably gonna go see it this weekend either way. Pretty sure it's out by then.
Judging by his other reviews I'm gonna say he loved it and shot loads all over the theater to it
Jack Pepper it's amazing. I saw it at a screening and it's awesome
Man, Kevin shoots more loads than most porn stars. Well shit, I'm looking forward to it even more now. If this is the general consensus then hopefully they can keep it going.
I've seen it TWICE (at a screening AND the LA premiere) and aI can't wait to watch it again (hopefully in IMAX!). I know a lot of guys who liked it. It's a movie everyone can enjoy! The humor is awesome too!
They liked it. Critical of third act. But of course "GO SEE IT" from both gentlemen.
There is another reason why they chose WWI over WWII and that is because one of the main ideas of the movie was that the mankind in general, regardless of the side, has the equal potential to be good and bad, of which Wonder Woman had a inner conflict about whether to put faith in humanity or not based on her experiences in warfare. (SPOILER) That is why Ares turns out to be on the English side rather than the Germans. You would not be able to do that with WWII, in which the Nazi Germany, as portrayed in number of movies, was the pure evil.
If the God killer was destroyed in WW what is the sword she has in BvS?
Best thing ever was watching my niece. Between the laughing, crying and her eyes just lighting up it was the greatest feeling ever.
Amazons are Greek. Gal's accent isn't too dissimilar to the Greek accent.
Bruce Wayne the good ole 'vague ethnic' accent
Exactly
Yeah but in Greek legends, Amazons were considered completely crazy and evil; their stories used Amazons as villains in the way we use Orcs or Stormtroopers as villains that can be killed without remorse. So it is OK they changed some things for the Amazons, and Gal doesn't have to sound Greek IMO.
unicyclepeon no they weren't maybe read Greek mythology they were beautiful strong warrior woman they were evil or villainous
unicyclepeon: You are wrong, you should read up on the Ilias.
25:29 After the credit animatic I told the people who were still seated that there was no after credit scene and got a laugh as I walked out
I can guarantee that this movie will not be as pleasurable as the Brazzers parody coming out later in the year.
cumming soon
More like later this week...amirite
Blindman AI One can only hope.
Brazzers make awful parodies. They get good costumes but the scripts are crap and porn stars look gross. Someone will probably make a good Wonder Woman porno but it won't be Brazzers.
Diana on top the whole time with bondage or gtfo.
Great review guys! And yes Doctor Maru was in the Wonder Woman comics. And there was no PCS unfortunately!
I'm glad critics and haters finally like a DC movie, still annoyed that they're still throwing crap at the other dceu films, Suicide Squad: Had its flaws but still fun to watch and had some likable characters (Deadshot, Harley, Diablo). BvS: Also many problems but had great memorable scenes (Mad max batman, warehouse scene, Wonder Woman). But MOS: If that movie doesn't move you, then I don't know what will.
Hey! You guys have a pixel out on your main camera. It isn't my monitor and it isn't on the Kevincam. It's on the main, a little left and just below center. It's driving me nuts!
So the part where Steve Trevor sacrifices to destroy the plane full of poison gas doesn't remember you of when Captain America doies it in his first movie
only superficially. I mean they are both about sacrifice and being on a plane. but the character journey is in fact not the same, also as a pilot it is a logical way for him to handle the situation.
Thank you so much for the improved audio, guys. it does not go unnoticed.
Also, with WWI is also a war she become disillusioned against all wars; and nobody can point to a legitimate evil villain. Were as WWII has a few things you can point to as good reasons for it to be fought.
I took my niece to see this film over the week end and it made me cry not the movie per say ( it was in fact awesome) I cried because I got to watch this little girl see her hero come to life and experience the world of movies and comics in a way that as a white male I have been able to do for a very long time. I remember growing up I got Luke sky walker and Superman and Michael Kenton's batman...etc.. and I loved them all but sharing these things with my sister where hard because she never got to see anyone that represented her as a strong hero. Now here we are me and her daughter seeing wonder woman. for 2 hours and 45 min this little girl is glued to her seat bouncing up and down in her chair every time wonder woman kicks ass on screen. this movie will always be special to me and a very excited 10year old.
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Love you guys, so looking forward to seeing this! Will hopefully have my review up for the weekend.
No spoilers its not even out yet
That fight scene in no-mans land and liberating the city was by far BETTER than anything Marvel has ever done. It was so unbelievably badass.
Makes me pissed we haven't seen batman actually fight yet. He's always just a dude who can't bend his neck.
Wonder Woman 2 should have the furies on the hunt for Wonder Woman for darksied
Hey Mark and Kevin; I am an old girl and tears streamed down my face when Wonder Woman climbed out of that trench. And the smiles of the Amazons as they ride into battle gave me chills.
Meet Trisha Jones, they call her 'Trish The Dish'
21:02 ladies and gentlemen....I PRESENT ROCKET SURGERY, A NEW FORM OF SCIENCE
I dont wanna sound cheesy or whatever, but I AM LOVING THE WORLD REGARDING FEMINISM RIGHT NOW. I mean even these guys are acting like feminists by seeing gal in an equal perspective and respect as themselves. 😀👍🏼👍🏼
33:30 Amen
Kevin, I'm going to keep this short, but just to let you know, I saw Star Wars in 1977, I was 7 at the time: I'm the same age as you, and we share a lot in common in our experiences with entertainment growing up. Apparently a love for Wonder Woman is not one of those things.
I grew up with a younger sister, and we watched the old Wonder Woman show without fail, and we BOTH loved. It. I can honestly say with a straight face and as a straight, married man of 47, I, too, have been waiting mu whole life for this. As soon as I heard today that it was actually a good movie, I called my sister. We rarely get together, but this Saturday we're going to watch Wonder Woman, and we will BOTH be cheering.
WELL!!! There was a live action 1974 Wonder Woman movie with hot Cathy Lee Crosby playing Wonder Woman / Diana Prince. Now That's Incredible!
That 1974 deal was a made-for-TV "movie of the week," which means it probably wasn't even long enough to count as a feature film without the padding of commercials. And having seen it, I can testify that its blonde chick in head-to-toe spandex had little relation to Wonder Woman beyond the title.
Agree!!!
Aries did have an Ahh Haa moment, when she was in the meeting with all the Generals. Aries pauses and stares at her. Later he helps her and Steve get out to the front lines, obviously because he wanted WW to see the horrors that mankind inflicts upon it's self. Before the final fight he says that he is the god of truth, and he wanted her to see the truth. He may whisper the weapons but it is mankind that decides to use them or not. His beef was with Zeus and the other gods because they refused to see that Zeus' greatest creation, man, was not as innocent as the gods lied to themselves to believe.
I think Mongol would make a great villain in a stand alone man of steel movie!
or parasite.
Lucas Henn cyborg supes & mongol... blow up coast city... give us GL stinger after credits... scream
Ilya Kuryakin was played by David McCallum, who also starred in the 1975-76 "Invisible Man" series, and has spent more than a decade now as "Ducky" on NCIS.
I saw it at the fan screening last Wednesday
8.5/10 from me!
What a great review. Have not seen Wonder Woman yet, but have wanted to see it since I heard Gal Gadot was going to play Diana Prince/Wonder Woman. Now after both of your high praise, I definitely want to see it.! Thanks, guys!
"Rocket Surgeon" why hasn't anyone thought about that?
Deliberate play on words.
"what do you think you are, some kind of Rocket Surgeon or Brain Scientist?"
hey When are you guys going to finish Iron Fist?? I've been looking forward to seeing it
Marc's opinion is what I'm here for
I did not agree with Steve Trevor dieing. They should have made it ambiguous. Hopefully Wonder Woman 2 will tell us why she hung up her tiara and lasso.
I love your reviews, you guys say the things I think most of the time! But I do think Ares knew who Diana was from when he's first introduced to her. That's why he comes to "help" her and Steve, to stay close to her and what they're doing. I didn't like how/what had to happen for her to get that boost of strength to fight Ares but I did love that sequence. I LOVED this movie!!
It really did hit me that this was the first comic movie where a woman was the hero for the whole movie, it gave me chills. it really was awesome to see and hear girls in the audience lose their shit during the whole movie, they were squelling like it was a Justin beiber concert lol
good to see DC finally put out something good after DKR...
Adrian St. Fort You're basing all this on movie you haven't even seen?
Why are you writing a 3 paragraph rant about a movie you have yet to see?
Emilio Barzini This entire universe cinematic universe has been a train-wreck so far, & anyone who can't see that are passengers. Wonder Woman getting better buzz than the previous installments is a good thing, & it IS because the previous installments have been heaping piles of shit. This is a GOOD thing.
WW>MoS>BvS UE > SS EXT
Well, the quality of that is definitely debatable (I don't think it's very good, myself, but it's okay).
You guys totally missed it! No man's land. No MAN"S land. Only a woman could cross it, only a Wonder Woman!
3 top female action heros: 1. Ripley from aliens 2: Gena davis from long kiss goodnight 3: The bride from kill bill. Just my opinion.
Jason Fullerton I'd probably add Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2
Jason Fullerton OMG someone else did like LONG KISS GOODNIGHT! I thought I was the only one!
Vanessa Robertson IKR?
Jason Fullerton Charlize theraton
the young girl from the film chocolate is far the best action hero. female tony jaa and wicked film imo . chocolate 8/10
Whos the second line director?
still no The Defender's Trailer Review
marcs review of the defenders trailer will be something like I thought daredevil looked good was impressed with luke cage and Jessica jones but iron fist ruined it by being white but I only watched the first 30 seconds but I could tell
The villain and hero does not need to be on a crash course with each other. Also Ares was aware of her as soon as she broke into the meeting. That's why Ares put her on a course to see humanities darkness, try to turn her to his side.
Wonder Woman 1 = WWI; Wonder Woman 2 = WWII. Dr. Psycho and Hades should be a big part of it the sequel, honestly.
I don't like the idea of using Hades. Use Phobos or Deimos. Not only is there a connection, but Hades has been done to death (wink, wink).
Dan S i would like her to come home and find out some bad shit went down
I hope this means they'll finally make that Black Widow film we've all been wanting.
Guys!!! Why would you do a spoiler review before the general public has a chance to see the movie?
I know Kilgrave from Jessica Jones is very similar in concept, but I REALLY want to see Dr. Psycho in another Wonder Woman movie.
Yeah, but is it a good movie? Because all I heard was what it means to women that this movie came out, which is fine, but is it a good movie?
Shifty McGearjam honestly its ok, suffers some of the same issues as other dc films. 3rd act is a cgi blow out, at times feels like it takes a while to get there. she gets kinda lost for a bit because of Chris Pine, his performance and way he was written just over shadowed some of her performance, plus the "rag tag team" put together all male as well -_- reduces your connection to the main character. compared to the other dc films, ww is the hottest girl on the room 8/10 so if your a dc fan you love it, in the grand skeem of big money movies it's above middle of the road 6-7/10 so if you can suspend disbelief, forgiving some weakness to the story and are looking for a little fun mixed with fish out of water (many times over) romcom spend your 20 bills. on the other hand if your looking for a movie that is here to say something and be original, you'll get a few moments of that, mixed with pulling alot from past success of other comic movie titles, surrounded by the typical stuff. weak 6/10, but hey it is a super hero movie, ment for kids and nostalgia alike, it's worth a trip to the theater..... unless you haven't guardians then go see that, see that twice. hope that helps.
Shifty McGearjam did you watch the whole vid?
i'll take the 97 on rt instead, thanks.
Kyle s Wtf. WW is waay better than gotg v2, and ive seen guardians 3 times. You have to be a marvel fanboy if u didnt think WW was better, i just cant understand ppl liking guardians more
Wes M You can't understand what?.. it's called an opinion and yours is no more right or wrong than the person who liked guardians more..
In life our villains don't always know who we are and I like that it doesn't follow the formula.
best superhero movie since avengers
Days of Future Past, Logan, Civil War, Deadpool, Guardians of the Galaxy
Darrell Bales lol
Savan Collins wow you have shit taste
piksta you are in a sunken place
I loved the scene in the train station when she tasted ice cream for the first time. They had to have pulled that straight from the Wonder Woman animated film. I was so so happy to see that. The movie was awesome!
Spoilers so early? are you fucking kidding me?
There was a warning and a 5 second delay. If you got it spoiled, it's your own damn fault.
I saw Wonder Woman with my mom yesterday and afterwards we were at the local grocery store talking to the cashier about it. She told us how her mother had always loved Wonder Woman. They are both Israeli, so it made them excited and proud to see an Israeli actress play a superhero.
Why does Kevin always say Marc's ideas are so great?
He just wants everything to be like Marvel...
He starts saying negative things about the movie because the hero and villain don't know each other??
So what... he wants war, she wants to end the war... there's your fucking connection Marc.
I think he will just find anything to say "I love marvel more"
Dan S agreed. I didn't bother watching the black panther trailer review because I know it'll just be Marc bumping marvel and Kevin agreeing with everything he says and saying he should write for marvel. Also I 100% guarantee that Marc will be all like "finally a black superhero film"... like he he didn't blade 1, 2 or Trinity.
Generation Why Productions if you don't like what he says in videos then you're wasting your own time watching them
People make fun of me because my favourite superhero is the Falcon from Captain America but they weren't there and I can't describe the feeling when I turned the page of a Daredevil comic and saw, for the first time, a black man in a superhero costume...full splash page with wings out and everything...so magnificent.
Wonder Woman 2: Diana takes down Trump!
no
CJ P everything is politics
Best moment was when Marc brought Rocket Science and Brain Surgery together to form Rocket Surgery! Enjoyed the conversation.
I knew Marc Hated it.
For the record, There were black Americans involved in world war one. They were promised at least a couple acres of land for volunteering, and when they came back they didn't get what the USA promised. A lot of WW1 vets camped outside the white house in protest and were eventually bulldozed out of the area. I mean literally bulldozed. We did that shit.
I just saw it yesterday. When the opening musical notes of her theme started as the film started, I realized finally I was getting a Wonder Woman movie and I teared up and was almost sobbing in the theater! So emotional in that moment and just so happy.
And the movie didn't disappoint - so so good. Wow. Gonna see it again.
YES, Dr. Poison is form the Comics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From 1942!