Hi. I have a 3-way Musway MG6.3A set and I have to admit that it sounds great for its price. I especially recommend testing the MG6.2T tweeter. This 3-way set includes the speaker you tested. I drive this set with an Alpine UTE-92BT radio and a HiFonics Thor TRX6006DSP amplifier. Thanks to your videos, I managed to make an RTA in the car and the level of detail and purity of the sound is mind-blowing. :-) The only thing I would change now, if I had this knowledge earlier, is to buy an amplifier and sound processor separately. The DSP built into this amplifier has a low resolution of the parametric equalizers entered and a Q Factor range from 0.5 to 9. I had to enter all the parameters manually, and also play around with the equalization a lot to get rid of the problematic peaks and troughs. I think it is worth making a video about DSP and what to pay special attention to. It illustrates very well the ease and speed of using the Helix DSP that you have. Very high resolution, Q factor up to 50 and the ability to directly transfer settings from the REW program using a text file. Best regards from Poland.
@@user-bs9wd7cj8q In a perfect world, they'd be rated higher than a 40w RMS, but short of that, one of the most impressive 4" full-range drivers I've ever seen/heard. Amazingly linear.
Actually I love the integration ease of the Musway amps in my BMW. Maybe not the high end setups in my other cars, but as a touch above just a factory replacement, I am thrilled!
The Musway are nice for the money if you didn't know they are the exact same driver as the old Rainbow germaniums which I believe where actually designed by the guys who run Audiocircle. Audiocircle is made up of the old engineers of the Profi line that left when Rainbow was sold to a Chinese company and started Audiocircle. So there is alot of shared stuff amongst them and you can see that the Musway drivers are the same as the Rainbow germanium 3 way.
Hey man you should really really really try Mark Audio speakers..They are really cheap and sound great..I have a couple of mark audio pluvia 7 hd fullrange in my car and they sound awesome
I came to say the same thing. Awave is the low budget sister company of steg. If I ever have a chance to redo my speakers again I want to purchase stegs this time around. I’m very happy with the steg 6ch amp/8ch dsp I’ve been running just over a year now. I was skeptical about them at first but I’m all for it now
@@onesikm3agree! I love my Steg drivers. I prefer them on a A/B Mosconi amp. Probably because I have a stand alone Aerospace dsp, and I absolutely love Mosconi’s dsp software.
When you picked up the musway I thought it looked like a scanspeak with a phase plug. Then I saw the graph lol. Would like to see the scan 10m if you do another round up but it's probably very similar.
"Hi. Thank you for the videos, I learned a lot from them. I also have a question. If you had to put together a 3-way speaker set (mid-bass in the door, mid-range, and tweeter in the A-pillar), which speakers would you choose? Two Alpine PDX amps will be driving them. Thanks." The limit is around 500-600 EUR
Knowing car audio brands it is most likely 99% china with different levels of quality control and marketing lol. Which makes it hard to do a complete shootout because all these audio brands sound and look ai/npc generated lol.
if the sensitivity is being measured at the dust cap, it makes sense that the musway shows a low sensitivity as the dust cap is not moving, would it not make more sense to measure it at the most inner part of the cone?
@@kai-isms6868They have that listed at 500hz because people aren't smart and will blow them with them crossed lower. Had mine at 350 for months and they did fine. They are fantastic speakers!
I was looking at the Musway as an update to my Faitals.... do you think the Musway will work ok on 30w RMS, I do have the Faitals turned right down in level to match the midbass.
You can’t use your nearfield measurements to do high frequency response or midrange/high frequency resonance. This data above below 1 kHz isn’t valid. Also. Distortion measurement (except for extreme low frequencies) isn’t valid
@@RAW-CAt well, they need to be in the far field. This means in an anechoic chamber, klippel nfs (and something like the klippel ISC for distortion measurements). DIY, you can do gated measurements measuring in a large space off the ground (like a warehouse or outdoors). If you can get 10 ft off the ground or so, you can gate to around 10-12 ms and get around 1-200 hz resolution.
@@cbrunhaver well, the distortion measurements were made farfield, from 1m distance and the response gated at 4ms. The frequency response depends on gating, not distortion measurements. I think you haven't looked at any of my previous videos where I explain in detail how the measurements are being performed and why, am I correct?
@@RAW-CAt your frequency response measurements here you said were nearfield and are looking at cone break up (higher frequencies) that aren’t valid data. That’s my main point
AudioCircle is from Paul Jelko and Marc. Paul Jelko was the guy behind Rainbow Audio.
Hi. I have a 3-way Musway MG6.3A set and I have to admit that it sounds great for its price. I especially recommend testing the MG6.2T tweeter. This 3-way set includes the speaker you tested. I drive this set with an Alpine UTE-92BT radio and a HiFonics Thor TRX6006DSP amplifier. Thanks to your videos, I managed to make an RTA in the car and the level of detail and purity of the sound is mind-blowing. :-) The only thing I would change now, if I had this knowledge earlier, is to buy an amplifier and sound processor separately. The DSP built into this amplifier has a low resolution of the parametric equalizers entered and a Q Factor range from 0.5 to 9. I had to enter all the parameters manually, and also play around with the equalization a lot to get rid of the problematic peaks and troughs. I think it is worth making a video about DSP and what to pay special attention to. It illustrates very well the ease and speed of using the Helix DSP that you have. Very high resolution, Q factor up to 50 and the ability to directly transfer settings from the REW program using a text file. Best regards from Poland.
we need more of these - 5.25 inch and 6.5 inch and 8 inch
send them all :D
Someone send RawCat the Tang Band W4-1798S. 👏🏻
Is it good?
@@user-bs9wd7cj8q In a perfect world, they'd be rated higher than a 40w RMS, but short of that, one of the most impressive 4" full-range drivers I've ever seen/heard. Amazingly linear.
@@RAW_Reality Danke. .. Cheers, Vail, Colorado
Actually I love the integration ease of the Musway amps in my BMW. Maybe not the high end setups in my other cars, but as a touch above just a factory replacement, I am thrilled!
The Musway are nice for the money if you didn't know they are the exact same driver as the old Rainbow germaniums which I believe where actually designed by the guys who run Audiocircle. Audiocircle is made up of the old engineers of the Profi line that left when Rainbow was sold to a Chinese company and started Audiocircle. So there is alot of shared stuff amongst them and you can see that the Musway drivers are the same as the Rainbow germanium 3 way.
A lot of Musway speakers are similar to Rainbow. Some lower lines aswell.
Man i love your channel
Thank You Thank You..... Very good information !!
Love these tests!! Thank you!
Hey man you should really really really try Mark Audio speakers..They are really cheap and sound great..I have a couple of mark audio pluvia 7 hd fullrange in my car and they sound awesome
Thanks!
I would love to see the Audison Prima AP 2 MV tested.
Awave is same company as Steg from GT Trading and is the sister brand for Steg.
Audio Circle too
I came to say the same thing. Awave is the low budget sister company of steg. If I ever have a chance to redo my speakers again I want to purchase stegs this time around. I’m very happy with the steg 6ch amp/8ch dsp I’ve been running just over a year now. I was skeptical about them at first but I’m all for it now
@@onesikm3agree! I love my Steg drivers. I prefer them on a A/B Mosconi amp. Probably because I have a stand alone Aerospace dsp, and I absolutely love Mosconi’s dsp software.
@@smartorder4997 No Audio Circle is from the guys who used to own Rainbow.
Great video! More more more 🤩
When you picked up the musway I thought it looked like a scanspeak with a phase plug. Then I saw the graph lol. Would like to see the scan 10m if you do another round up but it's probably very similar.
I didn't think anyone used Rebec Audio. I currently have the Rebec CS80 midrange and R6H midbass and tweeters
scan 10F is so impressive.. could you test the 12mu and sb acoustics?
I have the dd audio you can use them as tweeters also . They have absolutely no distortion
All speakers have distortion, you just can't hear it😉
"Hi. Thank you for the videos, I learned a lot from them. I also have a question. If you had to put together a 3-way speaker set (mid-bass in the door, mid-range, and tweeter in the A-pillar), which speakers would you choose? Two Alpine PDX amps will be driving them. Thanks." The limit is around 500-600 EUR
Sb17mfc + scanspeak 10f + SB29rdnc
@@RAW-CAt Thanks :)
Which scanspeak 10f are you referring to? There are 4 of them
You need to check in the previous shootout, as I don't remember the exact model.
Audio Circle is a labeled Germany but a Chinese factory lol, I think they are all coming from the same factory just different brand label
Engineered in Germany doesnt mean produced in Germany :)
Everything is made in china now
@@magnuswf yes sadly, 99% of them are Chinese, with the company specs.
Knowing car audio brands it is most likely 99% china with different levels of quality control and marketing lol. Which makes it hard to do a complete shootout because all these audio brands sound and look ai/npc generated lol.
if the sensitivity is being measured at the dust cap, it makes sense that the musway shows a low sensitivity as the dust cap is not moving, would it not make more sense to measure it at the most inner part of the cone?
Sensitivity is being measured at 1m distance.
Again stereo integrity m3 carbon missing. Supposedly the ultimate midrange driver from their posted specifications.
Not that great since it can’t cross below 500hz. Or 800 depending which part of the website you’re on. Used to say 400 but clearly that didn’t work.
@@kai-isms6868They have that listed at 500hz because people aren't smart and will blow them with them crossed lower.
Had mine at 350 for months and they did fine. They are fantastic speakers!
I was looking at the Musway as an update to my Faitals.... do you think the Musway will work ok on 30w RMS, I do have the Faitals turned right down in level to match the midbass.
If you don't meed the level of faitals, I believe the Musway will.be an upgrade👍
Musway is a good products
Lovely. Can you do the test from ScanSpeak, Seas mid as well?
I test only what is being sent to me, I don't take requests.
Focal m series 3.5 coming out of France are the ultimate mid.
Unfortunately they are at a price point that barely anyone can afford them.
You can’t use your nearfield measurements to do high frequency response or midrange/high frequency resonance. This data above below 1 kHz isn’t valid.
Also. Distortion measurement (except for extreme low frequencies) isn’t valid
Any tips how to make the data valid?
@@RAW-CAt well, they need to be in the far field. This means in an anechoic chamber, klippel nfs (and something like the klippel ISC for distortion measurements). DIY, you can do gated measurements measuring in a large space off the ground (like a warehouse or outdoors). If you can get 10 ft off the ground or so, you can gate to around 10-12 ms and get around 1-200 hz resolution.
@@cbrunhaver well, the distortion measurements were made farfield, from 1m distance and the response gated at 4ms. The frequency response depends on gating, not distortion measurements. I think you haven't looked at any of my previous videos where I explain in detail how the measurements are being performed and why, am I correct?
@@RAW-CAt your frequency response measurements here you said were nearfield and are looking at cone break up (higher frequencies) that aren’t valid data. That’s my main point
@@cbrunhaver yeah, I highly recommend watching my previous videos as you clearly making assumptions without knowing any facts.
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