Don't Cheat At Chess: What Chess.com Is Doing to Catch Cheaters!

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  • Don't Cheat At Chess: What Chess.com Is Doing to Catch Cheaters!
    In this video, IM Daniel Rensch reviews what's Chess.com is doing about cheaters using the website and goes over the fair play protocol on Chess.com. Cheating is an issue that Chess.com takes seriously. Using our cheat detection logic it's led to some breakthroughs. We will continue to act conservatively yet forcefully when we believe cheating is taking place. We will continue to do the right thing and close accounts when cheating is taking place even if it's difficult decision.
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Комментарии • 1,8 тыс.

  • @brooklynbound1000
    @brooklynbound1000 4 года назад +4271

    I’m so bad at chess even the chess engines can’t figure out what I’m going to do.

    • @erikhjortsater5461
      @erikhjortsater5461 4 года назад +73

      brooklynbound1000, I mean. Usually they can’t figure out a human move, that’s not what they do or how they work.

    • @kg_1720
      @kg_1720 4 года назад +6

      😂😂😂

    • @theaccordian9377
      @theaccordian9377 4 года назад +29

      U700 squad rise up!!

    • @emsnewssupkis6453
      @emsnewssupkis6453 4 года назад +2

      @TheEsotericZebra The engine pulls all the coaches, yup!

    • @musicaty
      @musicaty 4 года назад +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @CramcrumBrewbringer
    @CramcrumBrewbringer 4 года назад +3140

    "Great job! You had no mistakes!" *Sweats nervously*

    • @MrBolaextra
      @MrBolaextra 4 года назад +15

      hahaha

    • @Bradex.
      @Bradex. 4 года назад +105

      I'm inconsistent and had games where I "played" better than titled players. Thing is the games are shorter and I know a line that my opponent is playing (Queens Wayward Attack) Others I have 55% acuracy

    • @myfavsandlikes7478
      @myfavsandlikes7478 4 года назад +3

      Legit haha

    • @armandobueno1681
      @armandobueno1681 4 года назад +24

      I only get this when my opponent suddenly surrenders after an early blunder lol

    • @sparkygtynes
      @sparkygtynes 4 года назад +25

      The first time i got that message was in a very long game (50+ moves) and I immediately got it again in the next game as well, though it was much shorter. Im like a 900 player so i legit was worried they’d think i was cheating

  • @Shottty101
    @Shottty101 4 года назад +2952

    Me watching this vid: "What if they mistake me playing really well as cheating???"
    Also me: *blunders queen every move*

    • @inflatedpotato2157
      @inflatedpotato2157 4 года назад +129

      You must have a lot of queens when you play chess if you blunder one every move lol

    • @Shottty101
      @Shottty101 4 года назад +166

      @@inflatedpotato2157 Nah, just playing equally bad players at my level who don't notice ;)

    • @OmniKoneko
      @OmniKoneko 4 года назад +56

      Ah a Botez Gambit 😄

    • @inflatedpotato2157
      @inflatedpotato2157 4 года назад +12

      @@Shottty101 Oh. Well, grandmasters make blunders too , and you will improve if you play more :)

    • @louiswoodward8937
      @louiswoodward8937 4 года назад +70

      @@inflatedpotato2157 Although GM blunders are usually blunders like "oh i didn't move my pawn so now in 6 moves im gonna lose my knight" rather than us noobs who are just like "here you go, have my queen"

  • @SubZero-vs2mu
    @SubZero-vs2mu 4 года назад +3387

    This video stopped me cheating on my wife.

    • @charisma5618
      @charisma5618 4 года назад +31

      @EinsteinVonRembrandt cringe

    • @129ロラ
      @129ロラ 4 года назад +102

      @@charisma5618 *nuzzles u* waaa don't say cringe :3 that's not very niicee x3 :D UwU *presents butt*

    • @dakotatiger2009
      @dakotatiger2009 4 года назад +79

      @@charisma5618 The word cringe, is cringy within itself, so good job being a hypocrite in that regard.

    • @reyfauzi
      @reyfauzi 4 года назад +47

      forsenCD wtf ?

    • @FallaciousRamblings
      @FallaciousRamblings 4 года назад +9

      Then, please don't show this video to your wife. Asking for a friend.

  • @stephenschuster3555
    @stephenschuster3555 4 года назад +740

    can't wait for the next chess patch I hope knights get buffed

  • @robertcooper1952
    @robertcooper1952 4 года назад +989

    It's quite disturbing when I play someone lower rated than myself who starts out making average moves and then, when the position becomes difficult, suddenly starts playing like a grandmaster. This always raises a red flag for me.

    • @DemetriosMPapadakes
      @DemetriosMPapadakes 4 года назад +157

      Dude, what you said is very frustrating.
      This actually IS my strategy on many occasions and the strategy of many others, depending on whom we're playing (ie really low rating), and it can be confusing to them.
      I recently opened a chess dot com account because of the lockdown and I have played close to three hundred games, one hundred games of which I sac the knight in the opening to break my opponent's pawn structure, and then after I demolish the opponent who thought "he was a piece up" he says "you cheated", when in fact he simply sucks and makes ridiculous blunders that are not visible.
      So it goes both ways.
      I also like to clown around, and then if things get serious, I get serious. I'm not titled, but I used to play in tournaments when I was young, and was close to 1900s playing against titled players in the local chess club, so I have a very strong game. However, I blunder very often (as dumb as forgetting a queen exposed), it can be catastrophic. Other than that though, my game can be very solid, not always, but in general. And it becomes very frustrating when some random dude whom I'm demolishing says "you cheated". That's bullshit.
      And if I may add, "binge playing" when drunk, or half asleep or talking to your wife who's sitting across the other couch and reading a book or pestering you with kisses, is also a way to obliterate your ranking in one night, only to have a good reason to fix it the next day or on the weekend.
      If I suspect someone is cheating, ie has a very machine like game, I usually quit and move on. From what I gather this is usually an issue in the 1300 - 1500 range where chaos of vying for placement exists. I am saying this because I know how good (and how bad) I am, and that I should be around upper 1800s to mid 1900s from what I remember (which I only finally managed recently), and it took me herculean, insane effort to get out of the 1300s to 1500s mud in blitz. There were players there in the 1300s making moves and positional chess I would only expect in the 1900s range. So my rule became only one game per person. No rematch. Then my ranking grew faster as a result. Before, I was stuck trying to defeat a 1300s player who would just obliterate me, and I knew I was playing against Rybka or Tarrash when the second and third and fourth game was just insane abs the same: total obliteration, I mean it wasn't even close, it was a piece up and merciless destruction of my troops. Nevertheless, unless this player was a concealed master or grandmaster, it's unlikely I would be obliterated in this manner from someone at 1300, repeatedly. In fact, I should be winning comfortably the vast majority of games. I also met a dude on the completely opposite end of the spectrum, who must have been on a spree to give away all pieces without taking any. Whatever drugs he must have been on that night was awesome.
      Now in the upper ranks I get more of a plateau which is what one should expect. Fewer people feel the need to cheat in the upper ranks. I can see my progress graph is leveling out right now, and I'd expect I'll need to work really hard to exceed the 1900s range, possibly for months.
      In any case, the point is for the initial comment on this thread that things in life, like in chess, go both ways, and have various causes. You can't assume that someone destroying you when they are a piece down is definitely cheating.

    • @misterree
      @misterree 4 года назад +84

      I don't know my openings. Soon as the game gets moving though, the pieces make sense. They help each other. I may not know how to set up early game, but I can do well in mid-late game. Maybe others just don't know openings and learn the end game

    • @robertcooper1952
      @robertcooper1952 4 года назад +19

      @@misterree It sounds like you have a lot of natural talent for the game.

    • @aaryansharma8495
      @aaryansharma8495 4 года назад +9

      Bro i just started playing chess someone just acused me of cheating nd i didn't even know that it's possible coj as the game progress it's possible for me to understand something and i like that

    • @misterree
      @misterree 4 года назад +14

      @@aaryansharma8495 closest to cheating is getting a chess engine to analyze a position. Besides that you need brain upgrades.

  • @knickknackpaddywhack5440
    @knickknackpaddywhack5440 4 года назад +707

    Can’t cheat when my phone already overheats just running the chess app.

    • @booradely6423
      @booradely6423 4 года назад +15

      You could use a computer

    • @nmbp5482
      @nmbp5482 4 года назад +11

      Hahaha, chess offline is the best man, Chess online is kinda sport deception. Better do RTS in online game game. Chess not created for online and machine, Turn based strategy has it own patern that inpossible to win if controled by machine

    • @jacencade4019
      @jacencade4019 4 года назад +3

      How old is your phone?

    • @boreragnarok249
      @boreragnarok249 4 года назад +3

      jacen cade I have an X and it overheats

    • @siriusleigh24
      @siriusleigh24 4 года назад +3

      Mine does intermittently. Now wondering if that's when their cheat detection algorithm is doing it's work.

  • @andylowe1515
    @andylowe1515 4 года назад +758

    It amused me that I was accused of cheating once because I had 97% accuracy. But only because my opponent kept giving me his pieces lol.

    • @emilyscloset2648
      @emilyscloset2648 4 года назад +7

      lol

    • @anandalukka1000
      @anandalukka1000 4 года назад +84

      @@emilyscloset2648 same bro.. one 2000+ rated player reported me because my accuracy was 95+... and he was saying that even hikaru doesn't have this much accuracy... i was like dude are you in this world ???

    • @ploopybear
      @ploopybear 4 года назад +27

      @@anandalukka1000 and Hikaru sometimes DOES lol

    • @anandalukka1000
      @anandalukka1000 4 года назад +12

      @@ploopybear 🤣🤣 today i got 98% accurscy dude

    • @ploopybear
      @ploopybear 4 года назад +22

      @@anandalukka1000 yeah I get a lot of 100% accuracy games using opening traps

  • @tomeknaj
    @tomeknaj 4 года назад +819

    Never cheated but was suddenly nervous after winning my 15|10 game today hahaha

    • @Cowmilker98
      @Cowmilker98 4 года назад +27

      Thought it was seananners for a moment

    • @ezekielnual1499
      @ezekielnual1499 4 года назад +5

      really 15|10

    • @tomeknaj
      @tomeknaj 4 года назад +3

      @@Cowmilker98 I get that a lot!

    • @Cowmilker98
      @Cowmilker98 4 года назад

      @@tomeknaj is that your intention or a coincidence?

    • @tomeknaj
      @tomeknaj 4 года назад +2

      @@Cowmilker98 I used to watch him a loot as a teen probably like 7 years ago and that's when I stole it haha

  • @sciencetube4574
    @sciencetube4574 4 года назад +154

    Well, I'm safe. Every time I analyse one of my games with the engine, it says I should have cheated.

  • @aidenhastings6341
    @aidenhastings6341 4 года назад +223

    The TRUE best attempts of identity theft won’t be in your blog

    • @tylerjaglal666
      @tylerjaglal666 4 года назад +7

      by far the second best comment here!

    • @ianmoore5502
      @ianmoore5502 4 года назад +1

      @@tylerjaglal666 and the first?

  • @Snailman3516
    @Snailman3516 4 года назад +128

    There's no fun in cheating anyways. The fun is in the grind to improve yourself, and there is no better teacher than an honest game.

    • @snap7177
      @snap7177 4 года назад +1

      there are no skills improvement if anyone cheated

    • @tubeguy4066
      @tubeguy4066 3 года назад +1

      to some people it is fun

    • @theintelligentcow7447
      @theintelligentcow7447 3 года назад +2

      @@tubeguy4066 how is it fun to cheat?

    • @Enju-Aihara
      @Enju-Aihara 3 года назад

      ​@@theintelligentcow7447 imagine 50 dollars is much for me but not for you
      so cheating is fun for me but not for you

    • @theintelligentcow7447
      @theintelligentcow7447 3 года назад

      @@Enju-Aihara people who enjoy cheating at the expense of others are scumbags

  • @Tonyrock0227
    @Tonyrock0227 4 года назад +793

    Nice to see Hikaru’s son giving a nice news update

    • @naturadventur7425
      @naturadventur7425 4 года назад +28

      Lol it took me a few seconds to get your joke.
      I was wondering, "Naka has a son???"
      Good one

    • @fahimp3
      @fahimp3 4 года назад +38

      I think he seems a bit down in the video because of the adoption.

    • @wadevenerdi1060
      @wadevenerdi1060 4 года назад +6

      Danny is everybody’s son,... Wesley So adopted him a couple times in 1 day in different time controls I think.

    • @emsnewssupkis6453
      @emsnewssupkis6453 4 года назад

      @@wadevenerdi1060 Dr, So meets Dr. Who while time traveling?

    • @stel4AS
      @stel4AS 4 года назад

      Lmao 😂

  • @kyalvidigi1398
    @kyalvidigi1398 4 года назад +403

    I just won a game after a 20 losing streak and my opponent accused me of using an engine eventhough my accuracy was only below 60%. Took it as a compliment coz I'm improving. Road to 1400 rating baby.

    • @thomqs8655
      @thomqs8655 4 года назад +15

      Kyal Vidigi 20 LOSSES???

    • @kyalvidigi1398
      @kyalvidigi1398 4 года назад +17

      @@thomqs8655 Yeah I'm so bad. i I know.

    • @bigb9272
      @bigb9272 4 года назад +45

      Kyal Vidigi “can’t end on a loss...”

    • @waiser4965
      @waiser4965 4 года назад +4

      Still 1/20 xD

    • @kyalvidigi1398
      @kyalvidigi1398 4 года назад +20

      @@waiser4965 it's actually 6/58 now hahaha

  • @AgentSmith911
    @AgentSmith911 4 года назад +502

    Gm accounts getting closed for cheating is very dissapointing... :-/

    • @TheHomicidalTendency
      @TheHomicidalTendency 4 года назад +75

      Multiple titled Tuesday winners, that’s just sad. When a 2500 GM beats multiple super GM’s in a row they could almost ban you based on that alone, how stupid are they?

    • @AgentSmith911
      @AgentSmith911 4 года назад +122

      @@TheHomicidalTendency I am a complete noob (1300 FIDE) and I can only imagine the talent and hard work that goes into becoming a GM. For them to then cheat, even once, is sad and disturbing indeed.

    • @weingchiong8624
      @weingchiong8624 4 года назад +8

      These Gms should be banned for good

    • @mrmomonk616
      @mrmomonk616 4 года назад +6

      Can someone say some names?

    • @lolololololololol11
      @lolololololololol11 4 года назад +34

      @@mrmomonk616 GM Akshat Chandra cheated hardcore against Nakamura. Somehow even Georg Meier shamefully backed up this cheater.

  • @arnehessenbruch
    @arnehessenbruch 4 года назад +43

    The integrity of online chess is on the line. Thank you for doing this.

  • @dannyb982
    @dannyb982 4 года назад +357

    You are only cheating yourself if you cheat at chess!

    • @ATX0705
      @ATX0705 4 года назад +48

      Cheaters don't give a fuck!

    • @boombox3819
      @boombox3819 4 года назад +57

      @@ATX0705 cheaters are pathetic

    • @ATX0705
      @ATX0705 4 года назад +23

      @@boombox3819 I agree.

    • @douggieharrison6913
      @douggieharrison6913 4 года назад +11

      definitely cheating the people whose ratings are ruined too

    • @MrBolaextra
      @MrBolaextra 4 года назад +5

      Yourself and others!

  • @joeb4142
    @joeb4142 4 года назад +205

    I didn’t realize cheating was so rampant. Cost of doing business, I suppose. Kinda makes me sad.

    • @dattebenforcer
      @dattebenforcer 4 года назад +14

      80% of women cheat on their husbands/boyfriends.

    • @antiantiderivative
      @antiantiderivative 4 года назад +51

      @@dattebenforcerok incel

    • @ecooper7081
      @ecooper7081 4 года назад +11

      I was kinda shocked that titled players were cheating. Like we have all played against obvious cheaters. But it seem like a title player has to much to lose, in terms of reputation.

    • @illusion2438
      @illusion2438 4 года назад +1

      @@ecooper7081 Yeah but it is so tempting when money is on the line.

    • @juankplaysomething
      @juankplaysomething 4 года назад +4

      @@antiantiderivative simp

  • @BenEscoville
    @BenEscoville 4 года назад +41

    The sky is cloudy, and cheaters are about to get DRensched.

  • @xa-1274
    @xa-1274 4 года назад +65

    I’m going to be honest, I’ve come across so many cheaters that I’ve been cheating for a week, but since I’ve seen this vid and stopped cheating on my girlfriend. Thank you!

    • @David-mf3bn
      @David-mf3bn 4 года назад +8

      Not gonna lie, you got me in the first part.

    • @stevenodonoghue6856
      @stevenodonoghue6856 4 года назад +16

      Don't be ridiculous. We all know you never had a girlfriend

    • @markjestermatote7774
      @markjestermatote7774 4 года назад +1

      Whatchu mean girlfriend? Us chess players stay single my g

  • @MrTheDif
    @MrTheDif 4 года назад +480

    I've gotten quite a few notices lately that I've had points added back to my account. I'm only a 1300 player. Cheating is bad enough for a tournament for money, but what's the point of cheating in a game where nothing is on the line but some rating points. Ratings are just an indicator of skill and I want to know what my skill level is relative to others.

    • @professortachyon780
      @professortachyon780 4 года назад +27

      Same, I've probbably won around 100 points back this way lol. So many people cheat and I'm roughly at 1400, like seriously what's the point speacilly at such a low level.

    • @Tobi-pn2xs
      @Tobi-pn2xs 4 года назад +27

      @@professortachyon780 when you look at these guys' profiles, they're usually pretty bad and go on huge losing streaks and then decide to just crush everyone, which they miserably fail at. So they cheat and actually crush everyone, until they're banned anyway

    • @rmstew
      @rmstew 4 года назад +6

      I've had a few points added back myself. I float around the 1200 range - so distinctly average - no idea why cheating is needed at my level...

    • @ballin925
      @ballin925 4 года назад +2

      unfortunately there will always be trolls...

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 4 года назад

      At such a low level?!! Uh maybe that super fast guy at 1200 really did use an engine. But if he did he stopped later, he blundered his rock.

  • @MatoJelic
    @MatoJelic 4 года назад +272

    Wow. Everybody must watch this video

    • @mattbell5602
      @mattbell5602 4 года назад +1

      Indeed👍 Hey, Mato

    • @ciprianoroi
      @ciprianoroi 4 года назад +1

      Mato, you're the one who got me interested in chess.

    • @MatoJelic
      @MatoJelic 4 года назад +3

      @@ciprianoroi I am glad to hear that

    • @abhaytaranathk7496
      @abhaytaranathk7496 4 года назад

      Hey mato

    • @DLSPRO-ip4yh
      @DLSPRO-ip4yh 4 года назад +1

      I thought u r Eric Ronsen.

  • @austinwheeler3665
    @austinwheeler3665 4 года назад +10

    Eric Hansen played a game against a cheater on stream recently, and the kid’s account was banned three minutes after the game ended. I’m a downright patzer who could care less about my 1200 rating, but I appreciate you guys putting in work to promote the game in an honest and enjoyable fashion.

  • @pemainpesgratisan6392
    @pemainpesgratisan6392 3 года назад +29

    Me : hardly think to win a game.
    *me winning the game
    *start analysize
    Accuracy : 98.0
    *start sweating nervously

    • @vagrantspirit1826
      @vagrantspirit1826 3 года назад +1

      e playing on pure instinct, to bad it tends to betray me, so now i have to be slower on time in order to reduce blunder chance, also had to activate confirm move cu'z i tend to not look where i put my pieces.

    • @itsdifficulttocreateaperfe9850
      @itsdifficulttocreateaperfe9850 3 года назад +1

      @@vagrantspirit1826 Yeah, there are games that plays by itself, best moves are so natural, and then there are games, you calculate a lot but end up blundering anyway/

  • @sciencetube4574
    @sciencetube4574 4 года назад +44

    "Chief Chess Officer" is a really cool title.

  • @movdqa
    @movdqa 4 года назад +6

    Nobody who's seen my games would ever accuse me of cheating.

  • @MrFlyingPenguin...
    @MrFlyingPenguin... 4 года назад +90

    You guys are clearly doing the best possible. It's impossible to rely on trust and you can't disclose all of your methods so your actions are completely reasonable. Keep up the good work :)

  • @AutisticWaiiace
    @AutisticWaiiace Год назад +1

    I dont understand why i've got banned for 30 minutes for just playing chess. Its just unfair how moderators think that good people at chess are cheaters.

    • @nostro1940
      @nostro1940 Год назад

      Lmao funny cheater's story

  • @zer09382
    @zer09382 8 месяцев назад +3

    This has stopped nothing...it even worse now

  • @paritoshnegi1665
    @paritoshnegi1665 Год назад +2

    Man, winning the last 4 games with 90% accuracy really has got me worried. Two of them were blundering pieces and the other two abandoned the game lol

  • @thewayihandleit
    @thewayihandleit 4 года назад +19

    The sad truth is is that when there’s a prize pool in online tournaments there WILL be cheating going on in some way.

    • @jwonz2054
      @jwonz2054 4 года назад +1

      Unless you make cheating too difficult to perform.

    • @juankplaysomething
      @juankplaysomething 4 года назад +7

      @@jwonz2054 Unless you put an evil 5G powered drone in the room with surveillance webcambs and Gates mark of the beast vaccine already turning you into a slave/cyborg. Yeah that´s not fun.

    • @jwonz2054
      @jwonz2054 4 года назад +4

      @@juankplaysomething Chill from the weed, my dude. It's rotting your brain.

    • @bigshanemoment1574
      @bigshanemoment1574 4 года назад +1

      @@juankplaysomething what the fuck?

    • @chessangles3261
      @chessangles3261 4 года назад

      Agreed, contrary to anything previously mentioned combining online gaming with money will always fail in the end.

  • @everythinginfullspectrum8625
    @everythinginfullspectrum8625 Год назад +1

    They do NOTHING on lower levels! What a joke!

  • @puffcap_
    @puffcap_ 4 года назад +6

    If you falsely ban or suspend an account, and then realize it and reopen the account acknowledging you made a mistake (like all people do, I think its very reasonable to make mistakes in this situation), then that speaks volumes about the validity of your review team and their process

  • @guhmuhtruh
    @guhmuhtruh 4 года назад +11

    wtf, i thought it was tilted Tuesday this entire time

  • @elitejustice6502
    @elitejustice6502 4 года назад +49

    So far 12 banned cheaters have disliked this video....lol

    • @solidcricket
      @solidcricket 4 года назад +1

      I was on a hot losing streak the moment i won 4 matches in a row against weak opponents the fifth match closed by itself

  • @buffvince3367
    @buffvince3367 2 года назад +2

    wins a game with no blunders and mistakes
    Me: praying not to get banned

  • @SkylerAshby88
    @SkylerAshby88 4 года назад +15

    I am shocked that there are that many TITLED cheaters out there. Someone who dedicates their life to cheating at a game must be someone with serious mental issues.

    • @juankplaysomething
      @juankplaysomething 4 года назад +4

      Ask Juventus. I´m surprised the sports-betting industry hasn´t put his greedy eyes on chess, yet. THEN it will get ugly and surveillance like webcams and drones will be mandatory for tournaments involving money and it will no longer be fun.

    • @thermobaricflatulence523
      @thermobaricflatulence523 4 года назад

      ​@@juankplaysomething Announcing Magnus Carlsen's new sponsor: Unibet. (sigh)

    • @Traumtheater0
      @Traumtheater0 4 года назад

      Maybe that's how they got their title in the first place ..

    • @chessangles3261
      @chessangles3261 4 года назад

      Or someone living in a poor country who is hungry or needs money to pay bills. It's all about the MONEY. Nobody has ever successfully combined online gaming with MONEY and been able to stop cheaters. EVER.

  • @snickle1980
    @snickle1980 4 года назад +5

    I can hear josh waitzkin saying "No...That's not that right move."
    After years of playing Chessmaster, He haunts my dreams.

  • @brabhamfreaman166
    @brabhamfreaman166 4 года назад +21

    You’re absolutely right to act conservatively, but I think what you didn't, but tried to say, is just how important it is to persevere with the odd 'uncaught cheater' because that is so so so so much better than banning a single innocent player.

    • @Deocto
      @Deocto 3 года назад

      As that banned innocent player, I agree. Its infuriatingly frustrating.

  • @vEnvyRain
    @vEnvyRain 2 года назад +2

    i was banned for a 99.5% accuracy game and i beat mittens twice i really dont understand why ive played this game since i was 7

  • @bobbobbity463
    @bobbobbity463 4 года назад +7

    I was expecting (and ready to fully support) demonization of cheaters, but your open mind and non-judgemental approach really impressed me and changed my mind about cheaters.

  • @DrLongWang
    @DrLongWang 3 года назад +2

    I look at all my 90-95 accuracy games and think my account looks suspicious. Then I look at my 10-20 accuracy games and I calm down.

  • @kristoffliftoff9316
    @kristoffliftoff9316 4 года назад +20

    I had my account deleted right after someone told me he was was gonna “tell on me for using Stockfish” he was around 400 elo points above me and when I analyzed the game I had 3 blunders and 6 mistakes.

    • @asetr3w45
      @asetr3w45 4 года назад

      Sure

    • @kristoffliftoff9316
      @kristoffliftoff9316 4 года назад

      @@asetr3w45 bro I play three minute blitz games. I don’t have time to run Stockfish

    • @RassionellMaddman
      @RassionellMaddman 4 года назад

      @@kristoffliftoff9316 actually that game format is where the most cheaters are found (you get 2 seconds back per turn btw)

  • @Tysonrojas6969
    @Tysonrojas6969 Год назад +1

    They still not doing anything about cheating

  • @JSamad
    @JSamad 4 года назад +15

    Very convenient that this pops up in my recommendations when Tigran gets disqualified for cheating😂

  • @mikelynch-zeroviewz2507
    @mikelynch-zeroviewz2507 4 года назад +3

    "Chief Chess Officer"
    Keeping the peace on chessboards everywhere ..

  • @Brusselpicker
    @Brusselpicker 4 года назад +16

    Mikhail Tal would play a sacrifice and confuse the computer the cheat was using.

    • @amuricuh6143
      @amuricuh6143 4 года назад +1

      No

    • @GEM4sta
      @GEM4sta 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, he would confuse the computer! The computer would be incredibly confused why he'd blunder a piece and get crushed.

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 4 года назад

      This is what Alpha Zero was doing against Stockfish 8.

  • @ricey8325
    @ricey8325 4 года назад +8

    mans out here sounding like my school's principal

  • @TheBTMCrew
    @TheBTMCrew 4 года назад +16

    Danny, I want to say that your positive words + mindset reached me.
    I was always was more or less mad about cheaters in general, but you are right.. there is no sense wishing them bad things.
    In fact, maybe we should reach our hands to those silent shouts.
    Your mindset in general is a key to success.
    You're a nice example! Keep going ;)

  • @John-u7z9c
    @John-u7z9c Год назад +1

    I can spot them right away. Nosediving with their queens and rooks for seemingly no reason.. oh you poor little cheats

  • @essaessa6889
    @essaessa6889 4 года назад +19

    I 100 percent support you Daniel ... Thanks bro ❤❤❤ from Somaliland Africa

  • @Tod_oMal
    @Tod_oMal 4 года назад +17

    My account was closed while I was not cheating.
    So, that system is by far "not perfect" indeed.

    • @elibenaron
      @elibenaron 4 года назад +4

      Kasparov lmfao

    • @shonl8460
      @shonl8460 4 года назад +3

      me too

    • @31borya
      @31borya 4 года назад +5

      Well, from what Danny said, you can get your account back if you confess

    • @Tod_oMal
      @Tod_oMal 4 года назад

      @@31borya I did confess, I told them that I play as a female after 6pm. It did not help though.

    • @patrickroeroe62
      @patrickroeroe62 4 года назад +1

      You probably just cheated

  • @dgad87
    @dgad87 4 года назад +5

    Chess engines are amazing tools to understand common positions and what moves are actually correct. Agreed they should not be used during actual matches, but they should definitely be used to analyze and understand positions, especially your previous recorded games

  • @reecelardi467
    @reecelardi467 4 года назад +142

    Just watched this on acid, that background is off the hook. Soild message though 👍🏽

    • @gxfr795
      @gxfr795 4 года назад +12

      Hahahahahahaha how was you’re experience bro, I am definitely playing chess next time I drop a tab

    • @MrBolaextra
      @MrBolaextra 4 года назад +4

      @@gxfr795 wtf

    • @gxfr795
      @gxfr795 4 года назад

      MrBolaextra ?

    • @MrBolaextra
      @MrBolaextra 4 года назад

      @@gxfr795 sorry I wanted to respond to the first comment. Doesn't seem too normal to watch this video on acid...

    • @amoreazione3563
      @amoreazione3563 4 года назад +1

      Filthy drug addicts

  • @wizettv3531
    @wizettv3531 4 года назад +41

    I don't get why people cheat... What's the point, where is the fun, you're not improving, people who cheat don't like chess... they're here for taking the fun out of people and trying to win tournament with no chess mastery AT ALL, thanks chess com to improve that aspect!

    • @walterjames8230
      @walterjames8230 4 года назад +2

      winning. if you don't play for that you're a loser

    • @joshwatson5561
      @joshwatson5561 4 года назад +6

      Walter James Lol, it’s not “winning”!

    • @halffolk21
      @halffolk21 4 года назад +2

      I'm rated 940, if I cheat it'll be obvious.

    • @ACTHdan
      @ACTHdan 4 года назад +3

      Winning is only a byproduct of the real goal: refining and expanding your skill.

    • @mfigmac
      @mfigmac 4 года назад +4

      He is focusing at titled players because there's money involved. So the answer to your question is... Money.

  • @renatosuter2899
    @renatosuter2899 Год назад +1

    sorry, but there are way to less cheaters detected cheating. Looking on what a membership costs, it‘s a shame on this plattform.

  • @jamesk2343
    @jamesk2343 4 года назад +3

    As an amazing 600 rated chess player, I don't have to worry about cheaters....

  • @stark_syndrome7857
    @stark_syndrome7857 Год назад +1

    Wait you guys can access players webcams with out there knowledge, that’s insane

  • @victorvaldez6785
    @victorvaldez6785 4 года назад +34

    I know I stopped playing tournaments because you run into 700 rated players who can give Alpha Zero a run for their money.

    • @dipanwitanandi4274
      @dipanwitanandi4274 4 года назад +13

      Lol it happened to me
      I was playing this 10 min blitz tournament
      My opponent played miserably for 20 moves then suddenly BAM( one minutes later /probably setting the engine up/ )the next moves were so strong that from being material up i lost my queen in 15 moves and i was just laughing so hard at my screen that my brother asked if i was mental

    • @drwrencho4392
      @drwrencho4392 4 года назад +1

      @@dipanwitanandi4274 😳

    • @antoniobreaux1584
      @antoniobreaux1584 4 года назад

      I only play open challenges now for that reason.

    • @dinkydaug3005
      @dinkydaug3005 4 года назад

      @@dipanwitanandi4274 wow this is sad and funny at the same time... good on you for laughing about it

    • @markjestermatote7774
      @markjestermatote7774 4 года назад

      Duuuuude fax, I'm 1350 rapid at chesscom and I once faced a 1100 that played like a frickin super gm LOL

  • @sergiorinaldi8281
    @sergiorinaldi8281 3 года назад +1

    They don't do anything against cheaters! A cheater banned is a consumer lost.

  • @PrivateJoker0119
    @PrivateJoker0119 3 года назад +7

    Hello Indonesia, watch this video very closely lmao

    • @syahidulhaqalhafidz5101
      @syahidulhaqalhafidz5101 3 года назад +1

      Nah they don't even understand chess lol

    • @petermurphy1922
      @petermurphy1922 3 года назад +1

      Gothamchess?

    • @ZygardeCruiser
      @ZygardeCruiser 3 года назад

      @@syahidulhaqalhafidz5101 how about gm Irene, she beat dewa_kipas, and dewa kipas is exposed cheating

  • @at8630
    @at8630 4 года назад +2

    I am above reproach. I never allow my opponents to lose.

  • @ferguson1376
    @ferguson1376 4 года назад +18

    13:09 chess is an esport baby! im finally a cool kid 😎

  • @megasrimb
    @megasrimb 3 года назад +1

    their anti cheat system is so terrible targeting a lot of just good players lmao

  • @Skye-Hearts-Ayle
    @Skye-Hearts-Ayle 4 года назад +38

    a 96 means that you misunderstood your girlfriend after she said that 69 was one of her favorite positions

    • @HiTechOilCo
      @HiTechOilCo 4 года назад +1

      What a classy, "family environment", comment. Not.

    • @Skye-Hearts-Ayle
      @Skye-Hearts-Ayle 4 года назад

      Gets tough at 2.06

    • @StahliCell
      @StahliCell 4 года назад +1

      @@HiTechOilCo You're on youtube what the hell do you expect lol

  • @jaywolfenstien
    @jaywolfenstien 4 года назад +3

    I was accused of cheating and my opponent demanded computer review. Did you know Stockfish can laugh in someone's face?

  • @Jord73
    @Jord73 4 года назад +7

    Transparency, gotta love it. Good work!

  • @benlou3758
    @benlou3758 4 года назад +1

    It just goes to show people are never satisfied. You can be 2600+ GM and still disrespect the game like that, feels bad

  • @tnt5fourty
    @tnt5fourty 4 года назад +7

    The other day I got a refund of skill points because my opponent got banned. The funny part is I’m in 400 ELO 😂

  • @nemisous83
    @nemisous83 Год назад +1

    The problem now is cheaters will either play an incredible game then just purpoefuly blunder the next few games or they will play half the game without the engine then switch it on mid game you can generally tell theh are a cheat based on winrate. You cannot tell me a 250 elo chess player wins 49% of their games. This is just really hard for me as a new chess player since im effectively stuck in the 250-300 elo chess bracket because ill play one or two very good games where i crush the actual 300 elo chess players but once i get these cheaters i get battered to death for the next few games which tanks my ELO score.

    • @PySnek
      @PySnek Год назад

      I have the same problem! 300s playing like 1200-1500

  • @snitzko
    @snitzko 3 года назад +3

    They aint doing shit against cheaters. They are so common

  • @lordwilksy
    @lordwilksy 3 года назад +2

    Cheaters ruin the fun of self development and playing now, also it's difficult to get to a good rating if points are constantly lost to cheaters.

  • @nor-_-mal1691
    @nor-_-mal1691 Год назад +3

    I got my account banned by just playing the first 10 moves of stockfish 15. Cuz 1200-1300 play their own opening apparently invluding me so i wanted to know what to do. Random af openings, that never follow theory thats why. Rip horseboiii

  • @vichyfrance4792
    @vichyfrance4792 3 года назад

    “Be kind, because you can’t rewind”

  • @justanaveragebalkan
    @justanaveragebalkan 4 года назад +3

    The issue isn't that you can't get cheaters on time, the issue is that anyone can create a new account and just go troll people using an engine and even if you ban that specific person nothing is keeping him to come back and it all over again. Maybe consider the option to have verified profiles that just match with verified profiles so banning people might actually have some meaning, its really annoying when you play versus someone that is 1200 rated but then again puts up better moves then stockfish.

  • @AnnoyD
    @AnnoyD 2 года назад +1

    I've been making mistakes on purpose since I found this out.

  • @06kiely
    @06kiely 4 года назад +30

    Brilliant Danny, well done to all

  • @MrBooglabow
    @MrBooglabow 4 года назад

    DANNY SO GLAD YOU SAID THIS TODAY!! NO MATTER WHAT TITLE YOU HAVE A CHEATER IS A CHEATER.!!

  • @MijinLaw
    @MijinLaw 4 года назад +15

    For the casual viewer, this video was basically devoid of information.
    "You know the kind of thing I'm talking about", "You know who I'm talking about". Nope.

    • @m.w.9899
      @m.w.9899 4 года назад

      Video definitely wasn't for casual viewers though. It was a part of a much longer segment

    • @MijinLaw
      @MijinLaw 4 года назад

      @@m.w.9899 If it's not explicitly part of a youTube series though there should be a warning or mention somewhere that it's not going to make much sense. Or maybe it was just a bad idea to upload it if the context is so critical.

    • @HAKOBO
      @HAKOBO 4 года назад

      @@MijinLaw I'm confused at what you're trying to say. Should people only upload content that is generally targeted?

    • @MijinLaw
      @MijinLaw 4 года назад

      @@HAKOBO Of course not. But if you're continuing some prior discussed topic then as a courtesy the video should be titled "My rant (part 2)" or should begin with a recap.
      It's bad form if you use a title that implies any experienced chess player may enjoy the video, but then people like me give up after several minutes because they don't know what things you're alluding to.

  • @s3i
    @s3i 3 года назад +2

    is disgusting all the cheaters at 500-800 rating players, every 2 games there is a cheater man

  • @electricityuser8135
    @electricityuser8135 Год назад +4

    They do nothing

  • @CeroAshura
    @CeroAshura 4 года назад +1

    I've played 2 games at basically 100% accuracy. But that's because the opponent during both games kept blundering pieces.

  • @adam-bt5xo
    @adam-bt5xo 2 года назад +5

    Wish Hans had seen this video

  • @alexfresh8951
    @alexfresh8951 4 года назад +10

    Why i am watching this? I am 1000 elo player that never face hacker

    • @GEM4sta
      @GEM4sta 4 года назад +4

      1. It's not really hacking... 2. Even in the trenches down there cheaters will occur.

  • @joshuajodrian7364
    @joshuajodrian7364 4 года назад +11

    This got recommended to me because of Petrosian

  • @n0t0ne12
    @n0t0ne12 2 года назад +2

    "the anti-cheat speaks for itself"

  • @lovealways4994
    @lovealways4994 3 года назад +3

    All these are lies you don’t ban cheaters because you don’t want to lose customers and lose money you care about money more than the game

  • @direstorm7324
    @direstorm7324 4 года назад +1

    Glad I never have to worry about being accused of cheating

    • @throttlebrah
      @throttlebrah 4 года назад

      Yeah me too...
      Just imagine when your stopwatch is on 15 seconds and suddenly my network gets RTO for no reason at all...
      Not going to judge but, i have this issue when facing indian players

  • @Larryandbob
    @Larryandbob 4 года назад +117

    Danny I don't think you know what "crying wolf" means

    • @thylacine519
      @thylacine519 4 года назад +16

      I think he meant to say crying uncle

    • @meepmeep3874
      @meepmeep3874 4 года назад +19

      @William Boyle If you understood him when he used the wrong words, he didn't need to say it at all.

    • @symeon5518
      @symeon5518 4 года назад +3

      @@meepmeep3874 If he understood then perhaps it wasn't the wrong word to use

    • @ineluctablemodality
      @ineluctablemodality 4 года назад

      What does it mean?

  • @kite7838
    @kite7838 4 года назад +1

    i’ve been accused of cheating multiple times on chess . com bc i make bizarre moves and always find it flattering.. people who cheat are only cheating themselves

    • @magnafire1
      @magnafire1 4 года назад

      I was once asked, why did you use engine on our rematch lol. I was like, lol. That's a compliment to think I used a engine.

  • @reidpattis9478
    @reidpattis9478 4 года назад +5

    Danny spitting some fires of truth here. Love you man.

  • @Majora96
    @Majora96 4 года назад +1

    They made a new algorithm breakthrough while you watched this video

  • @ryant32u
    @ryant32u 2 года назад +6

    Here because of Hans

  • @limbolegs
    @limbolegs 3 года назад +1

    As a player around 800 Elo, I have nothing to worry about

    • @vagrantspirit1826
      @vagrantspirit1826 3 года назад +1

      chess engine of 1300-1500 rating be like:
      bip bup bap

  • @1gewinnertwitch681
    @1gewinnertwitch681 4 года назад +15

    This goes too you 2300 FM who won against 3 super Gm and got 7 in titeld Tuesday

    • @rflptrs
      @rflptrs 4 года назад +5

      This was the one that won against Nakamura and naka got very pissed about it? He clearly saw that it was a cheater

    • @skylertunc7023
      @skylertunc7023 4 года назад +1

      @@rflptrs No, that guy played badly in other games, also Hikaru is also not always right, or usually. He was most likely clean..

    • @rflptrs
      @rflptrs 4 года назад +2

      @@skylertunc7023 but it was very weird, how accurate he got at the end game and suddenly got very worse.
      I was watching last titled Tuesday and seemed like a cheater.
      Maybe in other games he stopped it

    • @chrisiver8506
      @chrisiver8506 4 года назад +1

      @@skylertunc7023 He cheated against Naka and didn't cheat against some others, if he was smart he would have done it the other way around.

    • @draganandrei5356
      @draganandrei5356 4 года назад

      Yes, I haven't heard about that player neither before nor after that tournament, and I watch a lot of online chess. He played very weak when camera was turned on in knockout phase.

  • @HMc_Film01
    @HMc_Film01 4 года назад

    You can use a strategy against the computer where you get full development and the commuter doesn't' know what to do lol.

  • @asguardrising812
    @asguardrising812 4 года назад +32

    I got a brilliant idea. You should compare titled player's accuracy before and during tourneys. You will be surprised!

    • @TheHomicidalTendency
      @TheHomicidalTendency 4 года назад +10

      One time increase in accuracy over an average is common. They compare move times, engine comparison and probably zither factors that they’ve noticed between humans and humans using engines. I found using a phone engine didn’t get me banned (years ago) if I duplicated the game on my phone and only made engine moves occasionally. That likely would have got me found eventually the inconsistency is too great but a GM might manage a little longer (outside titled Tuesday like events) because the inconsistency would be more natural. It also would probably hurt them in blitz time controls tho.

    • @GEM4sta
      @GEM4sta 4 года назад +18

      To be fair though, I wouldn't be that surprised to find that people play 100s of elo better in important games. I know my rating can fluctuate between 1400 and 1700 depending on how much attention I'm paying

    • @HiFisch94
      @HiFisch94 4 года назад +1

      I played a few times in tournaments and I'm consistently better because I'm super focused and not just casually making any moves. Also I'm being a little bit more conservative because I don't want to risk something. So it's probably extremely hard to really determine if people are cheating

    • @FJohnson001
      @FJohnson001 4 года назад +10

      I had a brilliant start to a Titled Tuesday one time. 3-0 vs IM, GM, GM. People started messaging me saying I was a cheater and I fell apart. Probably would have anyway, but we need to cut out this crap about one time results. Anybody can perform 400+ pts above their rating over 10 games.

    • @robloxvids2233
      @robloxvids2233 4 года назад

      @@FJohnson001 Not if your opponents are playing at 98%+ accuracy and is taking way more clock.

  • @4thphaseofmalaise
    @4thphaseofmalaise 4 года назад +1

    This video is what desperation looks like. Danny and company probably have big bucks invested in online chess and online cheating is a SERIOUS THREAT.

  • @Tilly2020
    @Tilly2020 2 года назад +3

    Critcial comments are being deleted. Do not trust these people.

  • @Chesscology
    @Chesscology 3 года назад +2

    Cheaters are purely pathetic.
    Once you use an engine during your game... you are pathetic.

    • @Chesscology
      @Chesscology 3 года назад

      @Kj Gamer good!

    • @dhruvyadav7715
      @dhruvyadav7715 3 года назад

      @@Chesscology whom are you replying to 🥴

    • @Chesscology
      @Chesscology 3 года назад

      Which reply?
      The sub comment?
      The comment is gone but the name is there.

    • @dhruvyadav7715
      @dhruvyadav7715 3 года назад

      @@Chesscology he is banned 🥴

    • @dhruvyadav7715
      @dhruvyadav7715 3 года назад

      @@Chesscology what did he comment 🥴