The whole thing was a royal botch. It started with the captain being ignorant of the navigation necessary to sail in the area along with his ignoring the increasingly shallow soundings before the ship was run on the rocks. And the "rescue" was an even bigger botch. May all those who died because of ignorance and the indifference of the rescue parties rest in peace. Memory Eternal.
Nicely done, few Valencia stories I've read mention the open life rafts, also according to one author I've spoken with "as all the ships papers went down with the ship, they really don't know how many or who were actually aboard when she foundered". Another author I spoke with family had land adjacent to Bill Gates property, she wrote an article about the open life rafts and the people going insane due to exposure. My grandfather was a steam engineer on coastal steam ships 1897-1914, when I was very young I asked him once if he'd been shipwrecked. He said yes and went into this horrific story about what happened, never naming the ship. Some years later the local newspaper did an article about his adventures, of whaling, sailing aboard Square-rigger's, and the coastal steamers. It was in that news interview is when I found out he'd been sent to Sonoma, CA by the "Steamship Company to recuperate after the wreck of the SS Valencia., that would have been the Pacific Steamship Company. I have the front page of the London Times with the artist illustration of the ship on the rocks, people lashed in the rigging, and the shoreline "just right there" how sad! My grandfather was one of those on a raft, he lashed himself to the raft, others didn't and few were washed overboard. He was one of those "discovered on an island and in shock". He "woke up in a hospital in Seattle never knowing who brought him there, but always believed the Indigenous people on the island found them and brought them to safety. It was after that he was sent to Sonoma by the Steamship Company. after his recuperation he continued to sail on Steamers and sailing ships (those to Alaska for the Alaska Packers) You can see the SS City of Topkea and the the Pacific Steamship Company Ware house circa 1923 in one of Charlie Chans silent movies. The "crew" photo at the maritime museum in Victoria shows him seated with 7 (I think) other crew members The Valencia was my grandfathers first ship after being discharged from the Seamans Hospital in San Pedro, where he'd be admitted in late Dec 1905, unknown reasons.
@@ssherrierable his grandfather could have had many kids well after he stopped sailing. If he married a woman close to his age they could have kids born in the early 1930’s. Hell, could’ve divorced and then gotten remarried to a younger woman. OP could’ve been born in the 50’s or 60’s for all we know. Men aren’t exactly the ones with the ticking biological clock for having children.
I’m 67 and my grandfather, who I remember well, witnessed Butch Cassidy and his gang holding up a bank in 1896. There is a lot more living history out there than people realize.
The wreck is not the Valencia it was smashed up there are many other wrecks I think you may be referring to the boiler at camp Michigan the boiler was from the ship Michigan which was sent to salvage the ship mascotte but was destroyed by a fire although I do have a map of where the Valencia wreck is parkscanadahistory.com/brochures/pacificrim/west-coast-trail-map-f-2017.pdf
@@drexitus5707 I believe that I did see the boiler of the Valencia, which is listed in Blisters and Bliss, the WCT hiking guide. I have photos but they are quite old (I did the hike in 2000). I have seen similar ones on the internet, however.
Speaking completely non-technically and over imaginatively - there has always been something about old black and white photos of earlier steam ships that look - well - just slightly creepy and malevolent. I’m thinking particularly about the Cyclops and - now - the SS Valencia. The real human tragedy and sadness aside - if they can be put aside - this story has all the elements of a classic ghost story. You did a fantastic job in telling the tale.
A b&w photo can easily show more detail than one in color. Why, there are too many shades of color available to the human eye. Thus, no sharp distinctions.
There's also the part where like you're looking at the ghost of the ship itself too. I get that uneasy feeling more when I see footage of the actual wrecks.
The Cyclops has always given me the creeps. Just seeing her photo...there is something of a malevolent air about her. Mix in the story of Capt. Worley and she seems even worse.
It's not only with black & white photos. Have you seen the colour photographs of the Edmund Fitzgerald, or even just paintings of the Mary Celeste? They too are absolutely eerie to look at... @Sorren Blitz here said it perfectly: Looking at those photos or pictures of sunk or lost ships is like looking at the ghosts of them. A most fascinating feeling...
Well on our trip to planet ¥, our captain 👩✈️ Ms. Virginia Harmer said those exact words to me but thankfully none of the passengers heard them and after landing on what you refer to as Earth I was able to sell them that this is indeed Planet ¥ so all are happy 😊 except that fixing the engines are futile and most do want to return home after dealing with The politicians of earth !!
Exactly. If you hear the Captain say that you'd best break out your hymnbook and start singing "Nearer, My God, to Thee". How on earth did he ever get his master's license?
I really like to think that the Valencia is a ghost ship still searching for a rescue. It’s hard to think rescue ships could do nothing to save the poor steamer. All they could do is watch her break up. It’s a shame. It reminds me of the Atlantic wreck off of nova scotia.
The major difference is people did everything they could to rescue survivors from SS Atlantic. It sounds like the “rescuers” of Valencia were either too incompetent or too indifferent.
So tragic! It does appear some of the "rescuers" dropped the ball. It's sad to think of a doomed "ghost ship" forever reliving its final hours. Peace to the souls of those who died.
I live near Tillamook and this is facinating. I've always been in complete aww by our rugged rocky and intense coastline here in Oregon. Then the old growth mossy forests just in land is equally as aw inspiring.
Had the captain commanded the respect usual to his post, he could have kept everyone aboard until daylight, when they'd see the difficulty/futility of getting lifeboats to shore. Also, the shallower-draft salver and tugboat should have ventured close enough to at least try transferring people by boat seaward, minimizing exposure to the surf and rocks. I guess I needed to think this through so I could go to sleep. Excellent job with a haunting tale, Big Old Boats!
Well done video which I can relate to as I have been rescued off those rocks. I had the amazing privilege of hiking the West Coast Trail this past summer. There is a lookout at the site of wreck which is between Tsusiat Falls and the Pachena Point lighthouse. I can tell you the cliffs and rocks below are unforgiving. There is a strange energy at the site. The trail and the coast can be extremely dangerous. 30 km south of the wreck at Owen Point I slipped and fell on house size boulder broke my shoulder and had to be evacuated by Parks Canada off the rocks by Search and Rescue fast response boat. Its a beautiful part of the world with many mysteries .
I have been following maritime disasters all my life. Each one more tragic and horrifying than the last. But none like this. Most disasters happen either in a manner of minutes or even hours but this one lasted DAYS. People DIED over that period of time. For the survivors and everyone involved this was surely a waking nightmare that haunted them the rest of their lives. You did a fantastic job in your narration my friend. I’ve enjoyed all your videos, bing watching your channel like a multi-season series on Netflix. Great job. That quote at the end gave me chills. Thank you for keeping the memory of those poor souls alive!
"As she passed Mendocino..." and I just KNEW it, before you said it. Mendocino is exactly where the weather switches from beautiful sunny California to foggy/stormy/dangerous north coast. It's one of my very favorite places, but I can't imagine sailing there. In fact, when I visit, I rarely see boats out on the water. Southwards, in places like SF or Monterey, there are boats EVERYWHERE, but not Mendocino.
True it's arough bit of ocean. Think of all the lumber hauled out of the Dog Hole harbors along that coast first by sailing Schooners then later by Steam powered schooners, they still wrecked all along the Pacific Coast!
@@ABQRT That cold Humbolt current goes ALMOST all the way down to SF but if you know the salmon runs and J-pod, the Orca group that goes down that way that's about their southern limit. Both fish and mammal like cold water. And it's cold all year around.
Your thoughts on the birth of ghosts combined with a masterful presentation are brilliant! As to all of those "inexplicable" actions? Fear, greed, callus indifference or any mixture of the three explains them all. Excellent treatment of this story. i was greatly offered by insensitivity to the historical context by another channel. 👍
I love the era of steel hulled steamers that were rigged for sail. A very tragic story but so common on both coasts. I’ve subscribed and really enjoy your channel. Thanks for sharing.
Incidents like this remind me that I was so lucky to be born in the modern era, shipping routes are as safe as they can be and lifeboats are built with their name in mind.
Except of course... both ships Moss Hills were onboard when they had their incidents and sank, and the Costa Concordia, as the big notable examples, not to mention heaps of Great Lakes ships and others that go down fairly often. Though the Concordia's definitely one of the most High-Profile recent sinkings
@@higueraft571 That whole story--the Costa Concordia--is a story of incompetence and cowardice. The captain and bridge crew were amongst the first off the stricken ship. "Chicken of the Sea" Schettino (the "captain") is right where he belongs--behind bars.
@@harrietharlow9929 Too bad the guy who kinda doomed the ship (the one at the controls themselves) is the slipperiest shit, and dipped. Tracked down once but totally vanished this time, still out there. :V
Very well done! A quiet, restrained but very respectful tribute. RIP TO all those lost on that desolate, rocky, fogbound stretch of Vancouver Island's Pacific Coast.
I’ve been out there and it’s amazing how fast the weather can turn out there. The wind can whip up whitecaps of dangerous size in no time, and the water has an incredibly sudden and deep drop off. The Columbia river bar is probably the most dangerous stretch of water I have ever been on, it can throw just about any vessel short of a tugboat like a toy, and anything larger than a fishing boat can only cross at high tide with a specially trained bar pilot at the helm or risk running aground. There’s a museum in northwest Oregon with a map that shows just the shipwrecks on the bar, and there are dozens of them
There are many books written about the graveyard by local author Jim Gibbs. He goes into great detail about the wrecks, these stories are fascinating. Great video.
Its nice seeing you venture out from just legendary liners, keep up the good work! I was so excited really thought it would be today at Oct 29 Hahhahahah
Thanks for this, I’ve lived in the PNW for a while now and spent lots of time underway in those waters during my time in the Coast Guard and never heard of this incident. Great video!!
I have a print from a British news paper showing a drawing of the ship, Sea conditions, and the women and children lashed to the rigging on the masts before she broke up.
Awesome story I’ve never heard as a Washington resident... I’d love to hear more about the “graveyard of the pacific” and Strait of Juan De Fuca incidents, if possible!
I hiked the west coast trail in 1970 from the south end, 1/2 day in and 1/2 day back. The trail was very poorly maintained 50 years ago and very rugged. The coast line there is even more rugged. I suspect if any of the rescue ships had attempted to approach the Valencia, they and their crews would likely have joined the disaster.
I would tend to give the other ships the benefit of a doubt for that reason alone. I suspect more than a few nightmares were fueled by memories of that day by people who witnessed it firsthand, but I can't find fault with them for recognizing those on board Valencia were beyond their ability to help.
This reminds me of a sailing ship, The General Grant that was blown onto the long, high-cliffed west coast of South Island New Zealand. She was pushed into a tall sea cave and as the tide rose, in the darkness, the masts hit the cave roof and were pushed through the bottom. Lifeboats exiting the cave were dashed to pieces. When fogs occur, people have seen the 'Grant suddely loom out of the fog. A horrible way to die in the crashing darkness with a ship being steadily pierced by its own masts.
I believe it was in the Auckland Islands (south of NZ ) not the actual South Island. The islands are virtually uninhabited so I'm not sure who would be there to see the ghosts? There were quite a few shipwrecks there where people made it to land but then had to survive for a year until a ship came by, so for a while there were stocked shelters in several islands to help people survive until rescue.
The Video ist really well made and treates the topic with an appropriate level of respect. I´m reallylooking forward to your next video :) At the same time i can´t imagine what the woman and crew on boards must have felt, seeing the rescueships jest leave...this is just gruesome
Wow! What a horrific story. I had no Idea that these kinds of stories where like this. Goes to show how good we truly have it now in 2022... Technology is quite something as it has evolved since the early 20th century...Also folks Thanks all the work to put this all together for us All Happy Holidays!!!
What a haunting tale, I can’t believe those “rescue” ships. I would have liked to know a little more about the wreck with some photos, but I’m sure I can look those up online!
Daniel, The intro illustrates wave size near a rocky precipice, with little wind ? In a gale rescue without modern technology, as mentioned in these comments, seems impossible .
I've only recently come upon your channel. Your videos are well researched, exhibit high production values and the narration is pitch perfect. So many channels on YT go out of their way to sensationalize the stories they tell, but you play it straight. Your candor is refreshing, as well as your respect for the subjects you cover. I almost NEVER comment on videos, but yours are of the very highest quality. Thank you.
In 1976, I found the boiler on a beach of the Westcoast trail. It was located roughly where the wreck would have happened. I have a picture but never seen anyone else that had a picture
I truly believe people actually see these disaster vessels, having sailed though mist a lot, after a while your brain fills in more and more of the blanks. These stories make for perfect infill, and it can be terrifying. I thought I saw a vessel I worked on in the past, and saw every detail on it I thought, till I realized I was on that vessel. Back on the bridge I couldn't find any vessel at that location on radar or AIS.
A tragic tale told amazingly well. Your quality and production values are amazing and will certainly garner the number of subscribers and viewers you deserve.
The time and details research in your videos are something I really love. I especially love that you take you time telling the story and are respectful of the people who were on the Ships and the way you talk about the building Craftsmanship and the way of life. If I've had a long hard day or life is rough I can watch your program and forget about it. Life was different then . Thanks for all you do.
Great content as always. It reminds me of the SS Princess Sophia; another Pacific shipwreck that was lost with all hands. Maybe we could see a video on her someday?
@@FutureRailProductions Except funnily enough, in this case, it was the weather that ultimately doomed the ship, along with fears over a recent wreck at the time. Where a ship had put all the men's wives and children on lifeboats, and they watched them die in the water. Compounded by the fact that if they hadnt launched, all would have lived. Making said launch undesirable incase history repeated, and weather making attempts risky. Captain made the choice to wait out the weather, believing they were well and truly stuck, which they were. ...at least til the tide got high enough and a hefty wave refloated the stern in the night. Then promptly ripped the bow open like you'd open a bottle
Thank you for this masterpiece! Another fascinating story told with great respect and amazing deep knowledge. God bless and looking forward for more great maritime stories!
Clearly the most haunting and harrowing shipwreak I have ever learnt about. You've done an exceptional job on this documentary. You have done those lost souls proud.
Love your videos! By chance I was able to hike the west coast trail summer 2019 and came across a Scotch boiler on the shore ! It was later doing research that I was able to find out about the Valencia.
Nearing destination makes a person think , through anticipation, that he deserves landing and safety. If a Viking Captain, would he wait until fog broke, staying well off shore listening for breakers ? I'd rather row overnight again than ride in a steamship on a human arrival/ departure schedule. Sort of like Mediterranean folk with more prayer than saltwater intheir heart. Idea of auxiliary propeller might be patient and toss our cookies another few nights till weather moderate.
If I was going to run aground on a rock strewn shoreline made up of cliffs I'd rather do it on the Great Lakes than here. Stories abound of the legendary heroism bravery and courage of the Lake captains, lighthouse keepers and life saving stations there, unlike these inept faint-hearted goofs, apparently.
Very interesting story, with the use of sound effects enhancing the mood. Very well read too. You have a brilliant narrators voice. Thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you.
Wow what a great production for such a sad story. I am in awe and shock at the indifference and cowardice of ships not even attempting a rescue. Now "must watch" every video tonight on this channel.
New to the channel, this is a well done interesting video. I plan on watching more video's in your play list. The incompetence of the captain not knowing what he was doing caused this tragedy.
This channel is incredible! Amazing work! The manner in which you’ve chosen to relate these tragedies is an impeccable blend of respectful homage and simmering outrage. As a former mariner, this ominous tone resonates deeply. The sea is miraculously beautiful and awe inspiring but it is also unrelentingly powerful and destructive if not respected. Thank you for producing this profoundly moving work.
Great stuff. You should do the General Grant wreck, not sure of the date but late 19th century, the ship was lost in the Auckland Islands south of New Zealand after becoming trapped in a cave in a manner such that the masts pierced through the hull from hitting the cave roof. There were several survivors who reached an island nearby and lived there for close to year and a half before being rescued, and legends of gold in the wreck's hold led to several failed and sometimes fatal rescue attempts. It's a fascinating story of human endurance and survival...
Treacherous, but beautiful. I live in the Pacific Northwest and have to explain we don't swim in the ocean here; it's deadly cold, violent, and very quickly deep. But our rocky coastline with foggy sea stacks and craggy cliffs and rough sand and rocky beaches are some of the most beautiful landscapes in the world. At certain low tides, the ghostly skeletons of ancient forests or old wrecks can be found.
So many people report on the ocean liners of the Atlantic. Thank you for bringing to light a vessel from the western/Pacific side of the United States.
What a great channel. Great story ideas, research, and narration. Truly heartbreaking story. But I'm glad to see that you keep their memory in our minds today. Respect. Look forward to your next notification as I binge watch your previous videos. Thank you for sharing your hard work. Glad I've subscribed
I've seen what's left of her many years ago when Dad did one of his unplanned, unexpected family road trips to see ever ship wreck we could see or it's site on the west coast. So we went north started in B.C. and work our way down the Washington, Oregon coast. Then Dad got bored with. I have to admit it was better than going to see all the two-story out outhouses and giant balls of sting in the United States.
These ship ⚓ stories of the true old days are truly amazing! These ships where probably leak buckets. And to here them going around the cape of good horn. going from the Atlantic ocean around the cape some of the most dangerous sea's in the world than running from Northern California to Alaska more dangerous sea's. The courage of the crew's and the ticket holders is truly remarkable!! This is sad story about the rescue. keep these stories alive!!
I dove on this wreck site many years back.. about 48 - 50 years ago... There was nothing much that could be identified as a ship part.. the boiler was about it. The rest was twisted metal.. And it felt very eerie to be diving there knowing the history of the ship and the numbers of people who perished
The Valencia was already 24 years old in 1906. Her hull was thin and built of iron rather than steel. Being caught on jagged rocks in the cauldron of the Pacific, I'm surprised you found any evidence of the ship when you dove her. Thanks much for your story.
I've hiked all around the Oregon coast in and out of those rocks, dropping into a Cove then figuring how to get out, unconcerned about the tides, or the weather or the time of day. 40 years doing that. Until I just watch this video I never knew it was dangerous. No one told me. Really my best days, innocence is truly blissful.
I absolutely love watching your work, the depth and production values easily deserve an extra zero or three added to your subscriber count! This one was especially haunting, a perfect Halloween release. I would love to know more about the stowaway Jim McCarrick. Seems like especially bad luck for that poor soul.
Wow that was really crazy. So many people there to help but still all the women and children died!! Very sad story. Another one that I have never heard of. Thank you for telling there story. I would bet the ship or the life boats there seeing them they disappear is probably guilt or the souls of those who were left behind to die. Thank you I found your channel today and have been enjoying your content All day. R.I.P. to all those lost. Very very sad.
Ive been shipwrecked-Nothing better than the sight of help coming on the horizon-However I can"t imagine the despair of those women and men trapped when those ships turned away.....Terrible...Terrible
Glad you servived your experience and you are right nothing like the sight of help on the way. I knew a guy that spent 30 days in lifeboat in the North Atlantic during WW2, people in town said he never was quite the same, there was "talk" of cannibalizim.
God bless their souls. May they rest in peace. May perpetual light shine upon them. May their souls and the souls of the faithful departed, through the Mercy of God, rest in peace, Amen.
![Seungmin "그렇게, 천천히, 우리(As we are)" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kAzmhLHePqU/mqdefault.jpg)
![I.N "HALLUCINATION" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/n5B5q1Hwt_U/mqdefault.jpg)
The utter incompetence of the whole tale from the captain to the "rescue" party is outrageous. Such a sad story.
Rather typical of the times....
The 3 Stooges could have done better.
Almost felt like the company did it on purpose to avoid litigation.
a dead man is easier to defeat in court than a survivor.
The rest of the story made the captain seem competent
The whole thing was a royal botch. It started with the captain being ignorant of the navigation necessary to sail in the area along with his ignoring the increasingly shallow soundings before the ship was run on the rocks. And the "rescue" was an even bigger botch. May all those who died because of ignorance and the indifference of the rescue parties rest in peace. Memory Eternal.
Nicely done, few Valencia stories I've read mention the open life rafts, also according to one author I've spoken with "as all the ships papers went down with the ship, they really don't know how many or who were actually aboard when she foundered".
Another author I spoke with family had land adjacent to Bill Gates property, she wrote an article about the open life rafts and the people going insane due to exposure.
My grandfather was a steam engineer on coastal steam ships 1897-1914, when I was very young I asked him once if he'd been shipwrecked. He said yes and went into this horrific story about what happened, never naming the ship. Some years later the local newspaper did an article about his adventures, of whaling, sailing aboard Square-rigger's, and the coastal steamers. It was in that news interview is when I found out he'd been sent to Sonoma, CA by the "Steamship Company to recuperate after the wreck of the SS Valencia., that would have been the Pacific Steamship Company.
I have the front page of the London Times with the artist illustration of the ship on the rocks, people lashed in the rigging, and the shoreline "just right there" how sad!
My grandfather was one of those on a raft, he lashed himself to the raft, others didn't and few were washed overboard. He was one of those "discovered on an island and in shock". He "woke up in a hospital in Seattle never knowing who brought him there, but always believed the Indigenous people on the island found them and brought them to safety. It was after that he was sent to Sonoma by the Steamship Company. after his recuperation he continued to sail on Steamers and sailing ships (those to Alaska for the Alaska Packers)
You can see the SS City of Topkea and the the Pacific Steamship Company Ware house circa 1923 in one of Charlie Chans silent movies.
The "crew" photo at the maritime museum in Victoria shows him seated with 7 (I think) other crew members
The Valencia was my grandfathers first ship after being discharged from the Seamans Hospital in San Pedro, where he'd be admitted in late Dec 1905, unknown reasons.
So your trying to tell us that your grandfather was already working on ships in 1897? When was he born 1880? And how old are you 100?
@@ssherrierable I mean, say the man was born during world war 2, he'd be in his 90s, but could still have a grandfather from the 19th century
@@ssherrierable his grandfather could have had many kids well after he stopped sailing. If he married a woman close to his age they could have kids born in the early 1930’s. Hell, could’ve divorced and then gotten remarried to a younger woman. OP could’ve been born in the 50’s or 60’s for all we know. Men aren’t exactly the ones with the ticking biological clock for having children.
I’m 67 and my grandfather, who I remember well, witnessed Butch Cassidy and his gang holding up a bank in 1896. There is a lot more living history out there than people realize.
Cool story! Thanks.
I have seen the wreck on the West Coast Trail. Thanks for honouring those who did not survive. You did a good job telling the story.
Thank you! This made me really want to hike the West Coast Trail
The wreck is not the Valencia it was smashed up there are many other wrecks I think you may be referring to the boiler at camp Michigan the boiler was from the ship Michigan which was sent to salvage the ship mascotte but was destroyed by a fire although I do have a map of where the Valencia wreck is parkscanadahistory.com/brochures/pacificrim/west-coast-trail-map-f-2017.pdf
Although I may add you may have saw pieces of it if you have photos I would love to see
@@drexitus5707 I believe that I did see the boiler of the Valencia, which is listed in Blisters and Bliss, the WCT hiking guide. I have photos but they are quite old (I did the hike in 2000). I have seen similar ones on the internet, however.
@@julierak343 I believe I do have that book I will look into it I hiked the trail this year so it may have washed away
The life boat found 27 years later after is remarkable yet chilling.
I actually agree with you
Speaking completely non-technically and over imaginatively - there has always been something about old black and white photos of earlier steam ships that look - well - just slightly creepy and malevolent.
I’m thinking particularly about the Cyclops and - now - the SS Valencia.
The real human tragedy and sadness aside - if they can be put aside - this story has all the elements of a classic ghost story.
You did a fantastic job in telling the tale.
A b&w photo can easily show more detail than one in color. Why, there are too many shades of color available to the human eye. Thus, no sharp distinctions.
There's also the part where like you're looking at the ghost of the ship itself too. I get that uneasy feeling more when I see footage of the actual wrecks.
A matter of Rods (grey scale value differentiators) and Cones (color prisms) in the cornea.
The Cyclops has always given me the creeps. Just seeing her photo...there is something of a malevolent air about her. Mix in the story of Capt. Worley and she seems even worse.
It's not only with black & white photos. Have you seen the colour photographs of the Edmund Fitzgerald, or even just paintings of the Mary Celeste? They too are absolutely eerie to look at... @Sorren Blitz here said it perfectly: Looking at those photos or pictures of sunk or lost ships is like looking at the ghosts of them. A most fascinating feeling...
What the hell?? How could they just repeatedly ignore the survivors? 😩 Excellent video, thank you!
It's crazy, I couldn't imagine. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Fear of putting themselves in the same exact situation.
Cowardice. And a complete lack of empathy or concern for human life.
@@ericmorang3903 Oh shut up. You'd have ended up dead too. You're not a hero and you wouldn't have done anything either. You sound like a Redditor.
I don't know, but think of those people who video accidents on their phones instead of helping?
"Oh my God, where are we?"
Phrases you dont want to hear in any situation, especially not from your Captain
Hearing that would've almost killed me on its own, but given how few survived, I probably would've died from either that or the cold.
Well on our trip to planet ¥, our captain 👩✈️ Ms. Virginia Harmer said those exact words to me but thankfully none of the passengers heard them and after landing on what you refer to as Earth I was able to sell them that this is indeed Planet ¥ so all are happy 😊 except that fixing the engines are futile and most do want to return home after dealing with The politicians of earth !!
Exactly. If you hear the Captain say that you'd best break out your hymnbook and start singing "Nearer, My God, to Thee". How on earth did he ever get his master's license?
I really enjoyed the way you narrated their story and if I may say so... it truly was the "rescue" party. Oh my god! What a mess!
What a harrowing story. You did a fantastic job narrating and keeping the apprehension building, I couldn't put this story down.
Really glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for the information on these big old boats. I ts amazing how many people go on these boats and I'm afraid of the sea.
@@aletaimmonen1371 I 'm not. What concerns me is the competence of those who sail them. In general ships are fairly safe these days.
I really like to think that the Valencia is a ghost ship still searching for a rescue. It’s hard to think rescue ships could do nothing to save the poor steamer. All they could do is watch her break up. It’s a shame. It reminds me of the Atlantic wreck off of nova scotia.
Atlantic was a liner owned by none other than the W.S.L. !
It amazes me that the ship first to approach her, with the shallow keel, just turned tail and ran.
The major difference is people did everything they could to rescue survivors from SS Atlantic. It sounds like the “rescuers” of Valencia were either too incompetent or too indifferent.
nah this event is far more similar to the SS Princess Sophia
@@bobskywalker2707 Took the words right outta my mouth.
The images, the B-roll, the narration, all excellent. This is top quality content, well done👌
So tragic! It does appear some of the "rescuers" dropped the ball. It's sad to think of a doomed "ghost ship" forever reliving its final hours. Peace to the souls of those who died.
I live near Tillamook and this is facinating. I've always been in complete aww by our rugged rocky and intense coastline here in Oregon. Then the old growth mossy forests just in land is equally as aw inspiring.
Had the captain commanded the respect usual to his post, he could have kept everyone aboard until daylight, when they'd see the difficulty/futility of getting lifeboats to shore. Also, the shallower-draft salver and tugboat should have ventured close enough to at least try transferring people by boat seaward, minimizing exposure to the surf and rocks. I guess I needed to think this through so I could go to sleep. Excellent job with a haunting tale, Big Old Boats!
Ironically if they had kept everyone aboard there would probably have been no survivors, though, given the uselessness of the supposed rescuers.
More than 100 years on, they are memorialized in a way none of them would have envisaged. Thank you for doing this BOB.
Well done video which I can relate to as I have been rescued off those rocks. I had the amazing privilege of hiking the West Coast Trail this past summer. There is a lookout at the site of wreck which is between Tsusiat Falls and the Pachena Point lighthouse. I can tell you the cliffs and rocks below are unforgiving. There is a strange energy at the site. The trail and the coast can be extremely dangerous. 30 km south of the wreck at Owen Point I slipped and fell on house size boulder broke my shoulder and had to be evacuated by Parks Canada off the rocks by Search and Rescue fast response boat. Its a beautiful part of the world with many mysteries .
That conclusion was very deep. I enjoyed it.
I have been following maritime disasters all my life. Each one more tragic and horrifying than the last. But none like this. Most disasters happen either in a manner of minutes or even hours but this one lasted DAYS. People DIED over that period of time. For the survivors and everyone involved this was surely a waking nightmare that haunted them the rest of their lives. You did a fantastic job in your narration my friend. I’ve enjoyed all your videos, bing watching your channel like a multi-season series on Netflix. Great job. That quote at the end gave me chills. Thank you for keeping the memory of those poor souls alive!
"As she passed Mendocino..." and I just KNEW it, before you said it. Mendocino is exactly where the weather switches from beautiful sunny California to foggy/stormy/dangerous north coast. It's one of my very favorite places, but I can't imagine sailing there. In fact, when I visit, I rarely see boats out on the water. Southwards, in places like SF or Monterey, there are boats EVERYWHERE, but not Mendocino.
True it's arough bit of ocean. Think of all the lumber hauled out of the Dog Hole harbors along that coast first by sailing Schooners then later by Steam powered schooners, they still wrecked all along the Pacific Coast!
@@ABQRT That cold Humbolt current goes ALMOST all the way down to SF but if you know the salmon runs and J-pod, the Orca group that goes down that way that's about their southern limit. Both fish and mammal like cold water. And it's cold all year around.
@@thedwightguy Yep, spent many a time on the Sonoma-Marin-Mendocino Casts , Watched whales off shore from the headlands at Ft Bragg.
Your thoughts on the birth of ghosts combined with a masterful presentation are brilliant! As to all of those "inexplicable" actions? Fear, greed, callus indifference or any mixture of the three explains them all. Excellent treatment of this story. i was greatly offered by insensitivity to the historical context by another channel. 👍
I love it when YT shows cruise adverts during your shipwreck videos. Nooooope!
I love the era of steel hulled steamers that were rigged for sail. A very tragic story but so common on both coasts. I’ve subscribed and really enjoy your channel. Thanks for sharing.
Incidents like this remind me that I was so lucky to be born in the modern era, shipping routes are as safe as they can be and lifeboats are built with their name in mind.
Except of course... both ships Moss Hills were onboard when they had their incidents and sank, and the Costa Concordia, as the big notable examples, not to mention heaps of Great Lakes ships and others that go down fairly often. Though the Concordia's definitely one of the most High-Profile recent sinkings
@@higueraft571 That whole story--the Costa Concordia--is a story of incompetence and cowardice. The captain and bridge crew were amongst the first off the stricken ship. "Chicken of the Sea" Schettino (the "captain") is right where he belongs--behind bars.
@@harrietharlow9929 Too bad the guy who kinda doomed the ship (the one at the controls themselves) is the slipperiest shit, and dipped. Tracked down once but totally vanished this time, still out there. :V
Very well done! A quiet, restrained but very respectful tribute. RIP TO all those lost on that desolate, rocky, fogbound stretch of Vancouver Island's Pacific Coast.
I’ve been out there and it’s amazing how fast the weather can turn out there. The wind can whip up whitecaps of dangerous size in no time, and the water has an incredibly sudden and deep drop off.
The Columbia river bar is probably the most dangerous stretch of water I have ever been on, it can throw just about any vessel short of a tugboat like a toy, and anything larger than a fishing boat can only cross at high tide with a specially trained bar pilot at the helm or risk running aground. There’s a museum in northwest Oregon with a map that shows just the shipwrecks on the bar, and there are dozens of them
Yeah , Astoria has the Maritime museum with that map. Cool museum.
It seems dreadful that they made people work and sail that route knowing it was so dangerous.
Beautiful narration and editing in this video. Would love to see more ghost ship stories... RIP to all those last at sea
Wow great share. "Dead reckoning" takes on new meaning.
There are many books written about the graveyard by local author Jim Gibbs. He goes into great detail about the wrecks, these stories are fascinating. Great video.
Its nice seeing you venture out from just legendary liners, keep up the good work! I was so excited really thought it would be today at Oct 29 Hahhahahah
Thanks for this, I’ve lived in the PNW for a while now and spent lots of time underway in those waters during my time in the Coast Guard and never heard of this incident. Great video!!
Thank you!
What a fascinating story, and a great video! How devastating that none of the women and children made it off alive.
I have a print from a British news paper showing a drawing of the ship, Sea conditions, and the women and children lashed to the rigging on the masts before she broke up.
great storytelling and production quality, the incompetence of the rescue crews is absolutely disgusting
Awesome story I’ve never heard as a Washington resident... I’d love to hear more about the “graveyard of the pacific” and Strait of Juan De Fuca incidents, if possible!
I love your writing. I’ve watched a lot of ship videos but yours are heartwarming and thoughtful. Thank you . 😊
I hiked the west coast trail in 1970 from the south end, 1/2 day in and 1/2 day back. The trail was very poorly maintained 50 years ago and very rugged. The coast line there is even more rugged. I suspect if any of the rescue ships had attempted to approach the Valencia, they and their crews would likely have joined the disaster.
I would tend to give the other ships the benefit of a doubt for that reason alone. I suspect more than a few nightmares were fueled by memories of that day by people who witnessed it firsthand, but I can't find fault with them for recognizing those on board Valencia were beyond their ability to help.
Just now watching, but a well told story. No over-elaboration, no drama. VERY enjoyable. Love these kind of stories.
Brilliant video. The story, the production values and the pacing were perfect. Well done.
This reminds me of a sailing ship, The General Grant that was blown onto the long, high-cliffed west coast of South Island New Zealand. She was pushed into a tall sea cave and as the tide rose, in the darkness, the masts hit the cave roof and were pushed through the bottom. Lifeboats exiting the cave were dashed to pieces. When fogs occur, people have seen the 'Grant suddely loom out of the fog. A horrible way to die in the crashing darkness with a ship being steadily pierced by its own masts.
How vicious and brutal.
I believe it was in the Auckland Islands (south of NZ ) not the actual South Island. The islands are virtually uninhabited so I'm not sure who would be there to see the ghosts? There were quite a few shipwrecks there where people made it to land but then had to survive for a year until a ship came by, so for a while there were stocked shelters in several islands to help people survive until rescue.
YOU are the best Narrator I've EVER heard! I love your clips. They should be made into a National TV documentary series!
Walked, fished and hunted those hills and beaches and rocks all my life. Love it there
This video is actually genuinely underated and damm
The Video ist really well made and treates the topic with an appropriate level of respect. I´m reallylooking forward to your next video :)
At the same time i can´t imagine what the woman and crew on boards must have felt, seeing the rescueships jest leave...this is just gruesome
Magnificent piece of work young man. From the Maritime City of Liverpool myself ,here in England. Fascinating Journal, thank you so much!
Wow! What a horrific story. I had no Idea that these kinds of stories where like this. Goes to show how good we truly have it now in 2022... Technology is quite something as it has evolved since the early 20th century...Also folks Thanks all the work to put this all together for us All Happy Holidays!!!
What a haunting tale, I can’t believe those “rescue” ships. I would have liked to know a little more about the wreck with some photos, but I’m sure I can look those up online!
Daniel, The intro illustrates wave size near a rocky precipice, with little wind ? In a gale rescue without modern
technology, as mentioned in these comments, seems impossible .
I've only recently come upon your channel. Your videos are well researched, exhibit high production values and the narration is pitch perfect. So many channels on YT go out of their way to sensationalize the stories they tell, but you play it straight. Your candor is refreshing, as well as your respect for the subjects you cover. I almost NEVER comment on videos, but yours are of the very highest quality. Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words!
In 1976, I found the boiler on a beach of the Westcoast trail. It was located roughly where the wreck would have happened.
I have a picture but never seen anyone else that had a picture
I truly believe people actually see these disaster vessels, having sailed though mist a lot, after a while your brain fills in more and more of the blanks. These stories make for perfect infill, and it can be terrifying. I thought I saw a vessel I worked on in the past, and saw every detail on it I thought, till I realized I was on that vessel. Back on the bridge I couldn't find any vessel at that location on radar or AIS.
Wow! The level of incompetence is unbelievable!
You have a wonderful voice that tells stories that scare the crap out of me. Thank you.
A tragic tale told amazingly well. Your quality and production values are amazing and will certainly garner the number of subscribers and viewers you deserve.
I'm so glad I subscribed to this page! The stories are excellent, interesting and told in a way that captures the listener until the story is done.
Your channel continues to be one of my favorites, always entertaining and fascinating. Good work man.
I love Barkley sound!!!! What a cool place to end up
The time and details research in your videos are something I really love. I especially love that you take you time telling the story and are respectful of the people who were on the Ships and the way you talk about the building Craftsmanship and the way of life. If I've had a long hard day or life is rough I can watch your program and forget about it. Life was different then . Thanks for all you do.
Great content as always. It reminds me of the SS Princess Sophia; another Pacific shipwreck that was lost with all hands. Maybe we could see a video on her someday?
I think so too, hoping to get to her one day soon!
@@BigOldBoats dead reckoning was what got her on a reef too. It seems that history repeated itself.
@@FutureRailProductions Except funnily enough, in this case, it was the weather that ultimately doomed the ship, along with fears over a recent wreck at the time. Where a ship had put all the men's wives and children on lifeboats, and they watched them die in the water. Compounded by the fact that if they hadnt launched, all would have lived. Making said launch undesirable incase history repeated, and weather making attempts risky.
Captain made the choice to wait out the weather, believing they were well and truly stuck, which they were.
...at least til the tide got high enough and a hefty wave refloated the stern in the night. Then promptly ripped the bow open like you'd open a bottle
Excellent video! Sound affects, background wind and music was just right. Editing was spot on. Well done
Everyone in a position of authority throughout the entirety of that ordeal deserves criminal charges.
It's a little too late for that
Thank you for this masterpiece! Another fascinating story told with great respect and amazing deep knowledge.
God bless and looking forward for more great maritime stories!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Clearly the most haunting and harrowing shipwreak I have ever learnt about. You've done an exceptional job on this documentary. You have done those lost souls proud.
Such a hauntingly beautiful part of the world, yet so unforgivingly dangerous
Love your videos! By chance I was able to hike the west coast trail summer 2019 and came across a Scotch boiler on the shore ! It was later doing research that I was able to find out about the Valencia.
Nearing destination makes a person
think , through anticipation, that he deserves landing and safety. If a Viking
Captain, would he wait until fog broke, staying well off shore listening for breakers ? I'd rather row overnight again
than ride in a steamship on a human arrival/ departure schedule. Sort of like
Mediterranean folk with more prayer
than saltwater intheir heart. Idea of auxiliary propeller might be patient and toss our cookies another few nights till
weather moderate.
If I was going to run aground on a rock strewn shoreline made up of cliffs I'd rather do it on the Great Lakes than here. Stories abound of the legendary heroism bravery and courage of the Lake captains, lighthouse keepers and life saving stations there, unlike these inept faint-hearted goofs, apparently.
Very interesting story, with the use of sound effects enhancing the mood. Very well read too. You have a brilliant narrators voice. Thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you.
Wow what a great production for such a sad story. I am in awe and shock at the indifference and cowardice of ships not even attempting a rescue. Now "must watch" every video tonight on this channel.
New to the channel, this is a well done interesting video. I plan on watching more video's in your play list. The incompetence of the captain not knowing what he was doing caused this tragedy.
This channel is incredible! Amazing work! The manner in which you’ve chosen to relate these tragedies is an impeccable blend of respectful homage and simmering outrage. As a former mariner, this ominous tone resonates deeply. The sea is miraculously beautiful and awe inspiring but it is also unrelentingly powerful and destructive if not respected. Thank you for producing this profoundly moving work.
Your channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites! Very well done, sir 👍
Great job , I’d never heard this wreck b4
Just finished watching it a second time.
Chills. Just…why did I watch this before going to bed tonight?
Great job ❤️
Thank you! I'm so glad to hear you enjoyed it enough to watch again! :)
Living on the rugged Pacific NW Coast, I never turn my back on this Ocean and have deep respect for it's awesomeness!❤️🇺🇸❤️
At home in my warm bed I feel so bad for those lost at sea. Bless them.
Great stuff. You should do the General Grant wreck, not sure of the date but late 19th century, the ship was lost in the Auckland Islands south of New Zealand after becoming trapped in a cave in a manner such that the masts pierced through the hull from hitting the cave roof. There were several survivors who reached an island nearby and lived there for close to year and a half before being rescued, and legends of gold in the wreck's hold led to several failed and sometimes fatal rescue attempts. It's a fascinating story of human endurance and survival...
Excellent read. Thank you. May God rest their souls.
Treacherous, but beautiful. I live in the Pacific Northwest and have to explain we don't swim in the ocean here; it's deadly cold, violent, and very quickly deep. But our rocky coastline with foggy sea stacks and craggy cliffs and rough sand and rocky beaches are some of the most beautiful landscapes in the world. At certain low tides, the ghostly skeletons of ancient forests or old wrecks can be found.
So many people report on the ocean liners of the Atlantic. Thank you for bringing to light a vessel from the western/Pacific side of the United States.
I love your work! Very good indeed! Top notch content and perfect delivery. Thank you for your effort
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed it!
What a great channel. Great story ideas, research, and narration. Truly heartbreaking story. But I'm glad to see that you keep their memory in our minds today. Respect. Look forward to your next notification as I binge watch your previous videos. Thank you for sharing your hard work. Glad I've subscribed
You do excellent work- well done!
Thank you so much!
I've seen what's left of her many years ago when Dad did one of his unplanned, unexpected family road trips to see ever ship wreck we could see or it's site on the west coast. So we went north started in B.C. and work our way down the Washington, Oregon coast. Then Dad got bored with. I have to admit it was better than going to see all the two-story out outhouses and giant balls of sting in the United States.
Wonderful video. You are a great storyteller.
Thank you so much!
My father always taught me never be afraid of the Dead. Only the living can harm you. RIP Daddy!
These ship ⚓ stories of the true old days are truly amazing! These ships where probably leak buckets. And to here them going around the cape of good horn. going from the Atlantic ocean around the cape some of the most dangerous sea's in the world than running from Northern California to Alaska more dangerous sea's. The courage of the crew's and the ticket holders is truly remarkable!! This is sad story about the rescue. keep these stories alive!!
I dove on this wreck site many years back.. about 48 - 50 years ago... There was nothing much that could be identified as a ship part.. the boiler was about it. The rest was twisted metal.. And it felt very eerie to be diving there knowing the history of the ship and the numbers of people who perished
Sounds like the Edmund Fitzgerald. She was in poor condition when she foundered. Apparently maintenance on her was very spotty and shoddy.
The Valencia was already 24 years old in 1906. Her hull was thin and built of iron rather than steel. Being caught on jagged rocks in the cauldron of the Pacific, I'm surprised you found any evidence of the ship when you dove her. Thanks much for your story.
It is so tragic when people die literally in sight of safety.
I live in the Valencian Comunty in Spain, im so excited!
6:45 amazing that they were able to recover film footage of the wreck and some sailor was mindful enough to film it.
I've hiked all around the Oregon coast in and out of those rocks, dropping into a Cove then figuring how to get out, unconcerned about the tides, or the weather or the time of day. 40 years doing that.
Until I just watch this video I never knew it was dangerous. No one told me.
Really my best days, innocence is truly blissful.
Many thanks for sharing their story , really great video ,edited very well.
Thank you!
Wonderful video of a less-known disaster and legend. Thank you for producing and sharing.
I absolutely love watching your work, the depth and production values easily deserve an extra zero or three added to your subscriber count! This one was especially haunting, a perfect Halloween release.
I would love to know more about the stowaway Jim McCarrick. Seems like especially bad luck for that poor soul.
Great content, I hope your channel keeps growing and growing.
Wow that was really crazy. So many people there to help but still all the women and children died!! Very sad story. Another one that I have never heard of. Thank you for telling there story. I would bet the ship or the life boats there seeing them they disappear is probably guilt or the souls of those who were left behind to die. Thank you I found your channel today and have been enjoying your content All day. R.I.P. to all those lost. Very very sad.
Fantastic ending to this video, but a horrific end for all those people.. imagine just leaving so many people in distress, it’s unbelievable.
Ive been shipwrecked-Nothing better than the sight of help coming on the horizon-However I can"t imagine the despair of those women and men trapped when those ships turned away.....Terrible...Terrible
Glad you servived your experience and you are right nothing like the sight of help on the way. I knew a guy that spent 30 days in lifeboat in the North Atlantic during WW2, people in town said he never was quite the same, there was "talk" of cannibalizim.
Love your channel and this is now my favorite video of yours! Great work
Yay! Thank you!
A superb production!.
God bless their souls. May they rest in peace. May perpetual light shine upon them. May their souls and the souls of the faithful departed, through the Mercy of God, rest in peace, Amen.
A powerful docu i very much appreciate the time the well made film i be looking for more thankyou!!
And that's another score to the ghost ship series