Ghost Ship: The Octavius
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13:21 perhaps the mammoth choked on it's food 🤔
you should look into the Chinese army that froze to death in the Battle of Lake Chang Jin. People can and do freeze to death while sitting in place. They were found lying in position ready to ambush enemy troops.
I also have a fear of deep water. for me it's like.... not the water itself, its what's in the water that I can't see that spooks me.
Lol. I laughed with an English friend that said Americans can't pronounce French named places. I said it's funny listening to you try native American named places.
No matter how many channels you make it wont make ppl like you. Just more annoying.
Still waiting for that “Encoding the Known” channel from Simon
I also asked for this last April 1st. I think it would be funny to take a very well-known topic, explain it logically, and then go into all the crazy conspiracy theories.
check put professor messer for that
@@Twiska agreed!!
@@Twiskasounds like "why files" in reverse
Simon makes his own conspiracy theories
Couple of points.
1. It's pronounced "Crack-N" and is from Nordic myths.
2. Cthulhu is from Lovecraft and is an elder God living in the sunken city of Ry'leh.
3. The fear of the sea and deep water is called Thalassophobia and is very common.
Choco Krispies and Cocoa Pops were two entirely different cereals.
Thanks. I now know what I suffer from and that it's common.
@@rebeccapaul418 and if you want to feel even better. I have it and i was a waterpolo player. Like i still could dragg 2 people any myself from the water if needed in a river, no problem, but toss me into deep see and i will panic
@@racmanov is that a picture of you jumping into the sea in your profile 😂
@@Crinkle76 As long i can see the bottom i am ok. But the moment i cant....
I love Simon being confused about the coco-pop and not realizing that he's shining a spotlight on just how poorly he is feeding his captives
As a sailor in the Australian Navy, the captain will sometimes stop in the middle of the ocean and Le the crew go for a swim. Obviously, when it’s very calm. Went for a swim once and it struck me, as I’m swimming about, that I am suspended over two miles of water and you have no idea of what is below you. I suddenly felt an overwhelming sense of dread. I swam as quickly as possible back to the ship and never swam in the ocean again. Yes, the beach is fine, but the ocean depths are just scary.
Yes, exactly this. I wasn't even on the ocean, just a murky lake. It just occurred to me that I can't see anything beneath me and that anything beneath me may not have that problem. Then, being the imaginative sort that I am...I pictured a giant eye opening beneath me in my head, looking at me. Now, logically such a creature wouldn't fit in a lake, but the thing about phobias is that they're irrational fears.
Yep, I was on The Wak off Timor and we went for a swim and it was 4k deep. Total heebejeebe moment.
Thalassophobia unlocked 😂
Hands to bathe
I live hundrets of miles away even from the Baltic Sea, let alone any ocean, but my area has hundrets, in some places even thousands of years of history when it comes to mining. So we have many decommissioned mines, often hundrets of years old and hundrets of meters deep and full of mining shafts that are now completely filled up with groundwater. Those old shafts give me the creeps, because although the water is always crystal clear and you can see quite a bit into the deep, at some point just comes bitch-black darkness, often reaching down hundrets of meters.
Down there are hundrets of years of old equipment, machinery, dead miners and God knows what else, my imagination always runs wild when standing at the edge of such a shaft. We have a quite large and active community of cave divers in the area, who dive into those old shafts regularly. I mean, I get where the appeal comes from, but nope, nope, nope, I am not even sure I could dive into one of those shafts if my life depended on it.
Fact boy got Kraken and Chtulu confused 😂
I mean to be fair the kraken myth probably did inspire ol' H.P himself in some way or another. Guy was terrified of anything in the ocean. A giant octopus-like creature that stayed still for so long it grew trees and gathered debris and living creatures until it looked like an actual island, before awakening and dragging whichever poor sods happened to camp out on it for the night and start a fire, down into the depths would be right up his alley
That famous Lovecraft story, The Whistle of the Kraken
@@es68951haha took me a second, but came back to give you your well deserved props.
Because fact boy doesn't seem to know many facts.
rude@@moleculeman27
The ocean is the one environment where something the size of a blimp can sneak up on you.
One of the things that makes this story unlikely is the supposed survival of a wooden ship hull that has been periodically trapped in sea ice for thirteen years. It's well known that Shackleton's ship, Endurance, was so badly damaged by being trapped in ice that it sank. Endurance (Circ 1912) was especially constructed with a heavily reinforced hull for polar conditions, it seems wildly unlikely that an ordinary 18thC trading ship could have survived similar conditions on and off for over a decade.The massive pressures of sea ice forming around such a ship, even once, would probably have crushed the hull as if it were made of matchsticks. Still ,it's an exciting story and probably afforded much excited discussion everytime it got republished. It's hard to begrudge the people of the 18th and 19th centuries a few shivery thrills though, when life is all smokey fireplaces, lack of indoor plumbing but plenty of starched collars and cholera, a bit of entertainment is necessary.
Also the idea that women and children were taken on a WHALING ship
@ruth4376 the whaling ship found it, the Octavius/Gloriana was a trading vessel.
Assuming that it actually happened ,the whaling vessel was probably in familiar waters and not at a place/time where it was likely to get trapped in ice. The captain of a whaling ship would be experienced at avoiding a situation like that .
@@QBCPerdition
The women were on the trading ship that was making it's way back from China not the whaler. Although some remote whaling stations did have a few women living ashore, they probably didn't get involved in the actual whaling at sea.
@@ruth4376
Also, this ship supposedly sailed in the *opposite direction* of all of those early attempts to sail the Northwest Passage.
ETA: Looked it up, the first west-to-east sailing of the Northwest Passage didn't take place until 1942!!
The pronunciation of Kraken hurt my soul
also the kraken's from Norse mythology not Lovecraft😞
@@johnmcmanus7809 yeah, since in modern age, they find giant squids mostly in cold waters.
And the "wind" bit was Family Guy, not the Simpsons
@@LadyMoonweb wait he has another channel?! I just discovered "places" from him. Didn't know he had astrographics.. How many channels does this man have?
@@sXsKidd All of them
My husband bought a smart watch and one of it's selling points was good up to 30 feet under water. My husband said, "If I'm thirty feet under water, my watch working isn't my biggest problem.
Wouldn’t that feature be for divers?
😂😂😂
I love that Simon curses out Alexa but thanks GPT😂
"Today on 'Encoding the Unknown' we're going to be telling you how to program your very own Bigfoot into existence!"
Why use Alexa?
Chat gpt is the favourite child
He also curses out Siri 😊
I blame the incredibly f*cking eerie fact that GPT *SOUNDS LIKE A REAL DUDE* whereas Alexa sounds like, well.. a robot.
I only discovered it could talk yesterday after using it for months and it scared the crap out of me haha. Good thing I've always been super nice to them; I should be okay in the inevitable glorious robot uprising
The Kraken (not krayken) is much older than Lovecraft; it was already feared in the age of Discovery, being an equivalent to here be dragons. Science dismissed these tales as seafaring yarn, until Architeuthis was discovered. Architeuthis is rather a big squid, not a kraken, but with its remains being found only rarely on a shoreline, when they are already too decayed to identify the species, while the tentacles and suckers on them are still visible, it is no wonder that people believed that it was a kraken.
I love the idea of a map maker getting to a part of the world he had no records of, pondering for a while, then just doodling a monster and writing "Here be dragons".
2:05 - Mid roll ads
3:25 - Back to the video
4:35 - Chapter 1 - Dead in the water
9:55 - Chapter 2 - Shiver me timbers
15:55 - Chapter 3 - What are the odds
19:30 - Chapter 4 - Gloriana
22:10 - Chapter 5 - Dead reckoning
25:30 - Chapter 6 - Thar she blows
The movie with John Cusack is called 2012. The day after tomorrow is Jake Gyllenhal and Dennis Quaid
Fact Boy fact corrected...
Same director. Roland Emmerich. Who also directed Independence Day, Stargate, and some other *terrible* disaster movies.
@readycheddar this is one of those obscure factiods that explains so much.
I am going to admit to liking Stargate when it came out. 😂
Thank you for your service.
@@readycheddarWorst Emmerich movie was Making Contact (also known as Joey)
And both are crap
Simon: *does two tangents, apologizes and promises we’ll get into the actual content*
Also Simon: *puts an ad right after the second tangent*
Lol, you said you are afraid of the sea; in the next breath is Surfshark. Just gold!
Swimming in the Deep Open Ocean was one of the strangest feelings I have ever experienced.
You can actually feel the vast depth of water beneath you. Still a chilling memory decades later.
Who needs the story of a ghost ship, when you have the almost unbelievable tale of the Endeavor, and Ernest Shackleton and his crew. I highly recommend looking up the movie Endeavor, and also an amazing film biography on the Shackleton expedition to the North Pole.
4:04 I think the editors in the basement would like more food, Simon.
My respect for Simon & his tangents has gone up a notch because of his Star Trek watching.
Kinda one of the whole points of TNG was that their families were aboard though... The whole saucer section was jammed with kids going to school and junk, or else we'd never have seen Molly O 'Brien and Alexander Pashenko...
Oh God my street cred
Same! 😅
My 8th raccoon is named Octavious. He is 4 years old.
His sister is named Nisha, a loose translation of Hindi as personification of night, or darkest hour before dawn.
She is my first handleable female raccoon.
The Octavius is featured in a naval mission in the video game Assassin's Creed III, where the main character, Connor Kenway, is searching for clues to the whereabouts of Captain Kidd's lost treasure.
I'm weird about the open ocean as well. I've been swimming since I can remember. I used to do swim competitions and even took lifeguard training as a teen. My mom and dad put an in-ground pool when I was a kid. My family has had a beach house in Charleston my whole life and we live 10 minutes from one of the larger lakes in my state that we often went out to for fishing on my dad's boat. I've been surfing, skiing, blah blah blah. But I took my first cruise when I was 16 with some friends and family. When we got out to where you cant see land, it registered how much water was between me and the bottom. As long as I could stay busy doing something on the boat I wasn't thinking about it and I was fine. But I knew if the ship went down, the kraken and megalodon and that SCP that didn't really exist 5 minutes ago knew exactly where I was and headed my way. I would drown. I wouldn't move, I'd lock up, I'd sink and drown.
Did you watch Jaws as a kid? Pretty sure that's the reason I'm terrified of it.
Back in university, i definitely fell asleep in class taking notes mid-sentence on multiple occasions. Glad i didnt freeze to death and give folks the impression i was flash-frozen
Being afraid of the the sea, or deep sea specifically is actually a very common fear for humans. I think it's a primal fear that we aren't made to be in open water like that so our survival instincts start screaming at us just thinking about it. What REALLY get my spine tingling is looking out over an open body of water at night, when it is raining or snowing. Looking at something like that makes me need to steady myself to know I'm on something solid or I will start to experience vertigo.
It's similar to fear of heights or perhaps more generally agoraphobia. Don't look down that well.
Knowing the sea is so deep that it hasn't been properly explored, and knowing that the sea is full of life, our mind tends to conjure up denizens of the deep. Usually, the deeper you go, the larger those denizens become.
It might be the same for Outer Space, were we not convinced that it exists as mostly a void.
Fear of the deep sea is known as thalassophobia.
Yeah gotta be a survival thing. Everything's that bad usually makes us afraid for a reason. Drowning, lack of food, water, being stranded, sharks, boats sinking. At this point it should be normal to fear the deep abyss.
It stands to reason, doesn't it? We don't belong in the ocean. We especially don't belong in ocean when there's no land in sight regardless of where we turn. We can't breathe in it, we can't drink it, we can't see very well in it... We can't even stay still in it as the waves and current moves us along. Then there's the knowledge that, beneath us are things that are looking at us as a curiosity and possibly food. Nobody wants their life to be decided by the whims of a shark or something, especially if they can't be seen.
We have quite a history of mining where I live. It's actually where the 'Schwibbogen', the german candle arch, comes from, which symbolises the entrance of a mine. Thus, we have many, many old decommissioned mines in the area, some of them hundrets of years old. You can visit a lot of them and many of them have old shafts which are completely filled up by groundwater by now. You can usually see quite far into the deep, since the water is crystal clear, but after a couple of meters, there is always still just complete, pitch-black darkness, which in some cases reaches down hundreds of meters.
This gives me always the creeps, since my imagination starts to run wild here. We have actually quite a large and active cave diver scene here, with people diving into those old shafts regularly, a thought which completely freaks me out.
53 seconds before the first tangent, he's getting better
The Enterprise D had a crew compliment of 1000 but could trasport upwards of 6000 people.
I'm a little taken aback by the talk about Mammoths. When I think of flash frozen people I think of the battle of Chosin Resivior, where soldiers fought at -40° and froze in their final positions, sometimes still standing up.
0:01 time to have another of my favorite ghost ship stories torn to bits lol
Simon was right about Boris being frozen when he said "I am invincible!" but The Day after Tomorrow was being instantly frozen by weather lol.
Perfect timing. I love listening to your stuff while I am getting work done and you’ve really brightened my days.
It might sound cheesy but your videos have brought my depressed self some happiness ❤
7:21
We finally get the perfect "Magic
8-ball" answer from GPT.
Captain is writing, falls asleep or falls unconscious because of hunger, gets frozen. Tadaa
Having passed out while writing, I can say that wouldn't be the case. The writing was too coherent.
Irrational fear of deep water is normally tied to a somewhat rational fear of large sea life.
This is well said.
Seriously. There's more than enough in that water to be terrified of, even if KNOWN attacks suggest the odds of experiencing one are statistically small. "More likely to win the lottery"...yeah, but SOMEONE wins the lottery.
Lovecraft, Norse mythology - almost the same thing, right?
Meeh same same 😂
In 5000 years no one will know the difference between the mythology origins
The "wind" bit from the "Simpsons" was actually Family guy, Carter Pewtershmit talking to Babs, sitting in bed, saying a burglar that they had heard "must be the wind". Babs then corrects his pronunciation, and Carter replies that he'd only read it written.
And this is why I glance through comments before posting. 🤘🏻
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The Simpsons Tree House of Horrors XIV 2003, the bit was repeated in family guy a few years later
For the "dying with food in its mouth". That's exactly how my granddad died.
He had an aneurysm while eating breakfast.
Found him with food still in his mouth just faceplanted on the kitchen table.
Another fun episode! Just a good old fashioned maritime ghost story.
The story may not be "real", but it could be the impetus for many of the later journeys of the passage. Mostly because the ship made it across the passage without a living crew and it didn't sink. I believe that part of the story may have caused many people to pursue the passage. Especially when the ship survived without guidance.
the ship likely was not even real.
even if it were, there is no way a 18th century wooden ship can survive multiple freeze cycles in those conditions, not even talking about collisions with icebergs
I got distracted for a second and Simon brought me back in with a Captain Warrens and his seamen 😅 I was like 🫢 excuse me?!?
Simon goes on a tangent about fear of water of unknown depth, immediately followed by an ad read for SurfSHARK. There's an unknown to decode.
I am also freaked out by deep water. If I can't see the bottom I do not want to be there.
The last log entry reads, “Aughhhhh…”
He would just say it, he wouldn't write "Auggggh..."!
Well done Katy. The title had Simon tangenting. Bloody well done! Extra mushrooms for you. Cheers from Tennessee
After viewing: Only the Lizard Overlords know what happened and they ain't talk'n. Allegedly.
On the topic of ghost vehicles, I would love a DTU on the golden eagle, the allegedly haunted and cursed 1964 Dodge Polara 330 that was the inspiration for Stephen King's Christine
This video reminded me of the 1st season of The Terror. It's about fictionalized account of Captain Sir John Franklin's lost expedition to the Arctic from 1845 to 1848.
> Opposite of microwave
Macroparticle?
> Shiver me timbers
That was ice cold.
Wonderful. An absolute Masterpiece, not only the Content but Simons off topic rambling and swearing😂😂😂
The Ghost Ship.
Because what's more real than a ghost but a ship full of them.
A ghost ship is just a ship found adrift with no crew...or an entirely dead one.
The _Enterprise-D_ had 1064 onboard. But the _Galaxy_ class was designed to hold up to around 6,000 temporarily in the event of planetary evacuation.
It was a "generational" ship and the saucer section could actually detach and fly off on its own for safety if needed and it did a few times.
@@skwervin1the detachable saucer section was supposed to happen whenever the ship was or was likely to be in danger, but the cost of the sequence was too expensive, so they actually only did it a couple of times.
Flash freezing is a real weather phonomenon. So it is possible.
Thank you because YES, it is.
"She looked as if she was still alive." "OMG SEXUALIZATION"
"her blistered stern" is even worse
A+ video!
Excellent topic, writing, and analysis!
“The long and easy way”? - Simon
Yeah, Patagonia is known as an easy place to sail around.
There was a much more recent confirmed ghost ship where the person died sitting next to the radio like he was trying to call for help, and was found mummified quite some time later. So the whole premise of someone dying with pen in hand is not impossible. There were so many ships full of people who vanished without a trace that it would be impossible to say that an Octavius matching the description never existed. Most likely, though, it was an old sailors' tale which may or may not have had various seeds of truth at the core. Possibly several stories with overlapping details have been conflated throughout the centuries, adding to the confusion.
I also fear the deep...... its not the fear of drowning its the primal fear of the possibility of horrible things leagues below you that you can't see...... but they know you are there
There's a well-known phenomenon called "pogonip" (or Killing Frost) in which the air becomes so cold that ice crystals start to spontaneously form on every surface. I've personally watched it happen to a car I was riding in (and the surrounding desert) and it can kill anything unfortunate enough to be out in it (though not instantly). It looks exactly like The Day After Tomorrow where the ice is sort of racing across surfaces, and while it is slightly less dramatic than the movie, it's no less terrifying to see it "crawling" across the hood and windshield of a running vehicle.
That fear of deep bodies of water (such as the sea) is called thalassophobia. I have had it most of my life and it took me many many years to find out it has a name.
Comment for the algorithm because I like Simon
You could say they gave a 'Frosty Reception' they were giving people the 'Cold Shoulder'
Some say Bernard Mathews used them as his secret ingredient for his frozen delicacy
Isn't the gap in the logbook times arguably explained by the pages that fell out when they grabbed the log?
Well done! Thank you Simon and co! Would love more nautical mysteries!
My fear is also strange. I’m afraid of heights on screen. Can’t watch it. While in real life I’ve got no problems with heights at all. Never had. But seeing someone on a roof, or on the edge of cliff does make my stomach turn three times, and I had to close my eyes.
Love you Simon! You keep me busy at work!
The star trek rant 😂😂😂 classic. 😂😂😂
I read infants are born with two fears: loud noises and falling. Fear of heights (and depths, same coin) is inborn.
My grandma's aunt Leota figured out something was wrong with her youngest grandson while holding him. His older siblings came running in the house, slammed the door, and he didn't flinch. She said, "I think he might be deaf." He was. Oh, and the baby's mom's family tried to blame the dad's grandma Hazel because she had less hearing when she was born. The grandma Hazel was born premature in 1888. She lived to be 99.
People are crazy sometimes.
Simon and me: same page on the deep water fear.
If you can fit anything bigger than a goldfish between me and the bottom I'm out
Awesome as always thanks Simon I love you and your tangents so much ❤
4:17 Oh, you mean like the site formerly known as Twitter? 🤣🤣🤣
I love old Sea Stories. Whether true or not, they are still a fascinating insight into the psyche of the brave explores who took to the Seas before the invention of the Chronometer. Look to Dava Sobel is you don't know the history.
"So, another tangent-- I'm really sorry-- we'll actually get into the content, I do promise."
-- Whistleboy, literally 2.5 sentences into the script and 1:20 into the video 💀❤💀❤💀
Also one minute before going on an entirely separate tangent about breakfast cereal that is not a long-standing sponsor 🙃
My favourite youtube channel with another fantastic video 😊😊😊
Sudden temperature drops are a thing, tho. There are recorded incidents of drops as much as 50°F in a few hours.
In this instance, we're talking about under a minute.
A much more interesting (and real) ship that ice-bumped it's way through the Northwest Passage is the SS Baychimo. Built in 1914 it was used by the Germans in World War 1 but after the war it was seized as a war prize for reparations. It became a trade vessel along the northern coast of Canada and Alaska but was at one point caught in ice in 1931.
In this case, the crew abandoned it and made camp on the shore, hoping to return later and reclaim the ship but it broke free of the ice and drifted away, abandoned. It drifted for 38 years, being seen and even boarded on occasions, and was last seen in pack ice in 1969. A search is underway to find the wreck.
Just for a crew size comparison, the US Navy smaller carriers (LHD) are crewed by 2500 sailors and carry around 5k total when carrying a full compliment of Marine squadrons and ground troops. The super carriers (CVN) are crewed by like 5000 sailors before adding air squadrons.
Jokes on you, I'm here for the tangents. Decoding the Unknown is a chiller Brain Blaze.
Fair point 'I've only ever read it' - kinda forget how often we may have discussed or had classes covering elements of a subject that interests us, relative to the rabbit holes and studying in solitude that the internet allowed for. Most of my faux pas were probably corrected by librarians, teachers or fellow students and later colleagues, to varying degrees, politely correcting me. It wasn't until coming across the 'Deus ex machina' concept that I learnt it wasn't like 'Deuce' in Tennis.. Fair play.
LOL.... I thought it was just me.. I keep telling my wife that if we were ever on a sinking ship out in the middle of the ocean, I wouldn't need a life jacket as I would have a heart attack the second I went into the water, I even get chills up my back swimming in the deep end of a backyard pool at night and not being able to see the bottom..
The funniest thing is I like scuba diving and have done it in a myriad of locations around the world, some places close to extreme drops where you couldn't see the bottom.. LOL
Love the short chat gpt segments lately, very funny bit
7:04 "Oot-key-gav-ick". Luckly there is an Iñupiaq boi in your audiance lol. Also the other name (Barrow) is fine as well for those who have a hard time with the original name of the town.
We were just talking about this and a fear of deep water. Even on a boat looking over the rail gives me the goosebumps!
Look at it like this Simon. If water is just a thicker form of atmosphere then your fear of the deep sea is really just a fear of heights.
Simon! Love ya man
I'd recommend a video on the ship Demeter, where the whole crew was dead on arrival but we know it was Dracula who killed them.
Creepiest bit is on wikipedia page for Octavius: "Fate Trapped in sea ice, all hands lost"
The OG reading of the Octavius story made me think of one of the scenarios in "Atlantis Found" by Clive Cussler
Probably the most wholesome thing about AI is how polite and bro-y Simon is with ChatGPT. If the robots ever take over Simon is probably just going be like, "Hey, G! Good to see you! Please don't destroy my family, alright? Thanks, you're wonderful." XD
You can mark the changes in Simon's career by wether hes asking chat gpt or siri.! Lol
I find it exceptionally unusual (and possibly unbelievable) that the captain's wife and child were on board a whaling ship. Yes, families often came along, but NOT on whaling ships, these were hellholes, with freezing temperatures, revolting bloody scenes aplenty and a ship full of rough and often violent men. Not a place for women and children.
The Octavius wasn’t a whaling ship though. It was discovered by a whaling ship but the Octavius itself seemed to be a cargo ship, transporting goods to and from China.
Now all we need is an insurance agent with a magical pocketwatch to figure out what happened.
Ghost ship means no crew. Christ on a bike, is there anything Whistler does actually know?
i'd honestly like to hear simon cover the franklin expedition. could be fun
That comment about the daily express 🤣 👌
It's pronounced as "crack-in" as in stop smoking that crack-in here.
Love me some ghost ship stories. I too am afraid of the dark, fathomless depths in a similar way as heights.
Watching a video of Simon sipping on Cola, while drinking Pepsi myself; whoopsie. 🤪
I have the same ChatGPT voice on my phone! 😄
Goldeneye: he flash freezes in a triumphant gesture, then Boris tipped over and shattered like glass.
John Cusack’ movie was 2012, The day after tomorrow was with Dennis Quaid and Jake Gyllenhall
Sounds like the crew said "we aren't going this way sorry" and maybe resolved the issue their own way.