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The Octavius is one of those legends that's both interesting and creepy. A ship with it's deceased crew completing the infamous Northwest Passage posthumously is certainly something that was a page turner then as it is now.
While the route they took doesn't make much sense, the corpses could have been a result of flash freezing. If the captain's log detailed surprisingly warm air there could have been the possibility of a sudden storm or hurricane. Falling rain pulls cold air with it due to friction, and as colder air sinks, the downdraft is further enhanced. It's a stretch but scientifically plausible. Glad to have another video from you, an excellent telling of an old tale.
Yeah weather can be weird, and expecting it to last was a terrible mistake. As for sinking.... one note about ice-bound ships is that the ice will badly damage hulls. Simply letting it thaw will result in the ship "leaking like a sieve" before sinking rapidly. It won't sink while icebound due to the ice holding it up. But when it melts... nope.
Even if thats the case that is a hell of a bad luck strike. I mean just freezing to death slowly is bad enough. But it's possible but not that easy to occur. It's more likely the crew on the herald got up to something on board and made up a story.
@@marhawkman303similar things to happen to concrete when ice gets up in there, the “pores” already present are forced further open and cracks are exacerbated by the ice repeatedly thawing and refreezing
Wasn’t the world still an ice age in the 1700’s? I heard something about how brutally cold the coast of New England was on average, it could get into the negatives.🤔😳
The version I always heard involved the ship getting blown off course and freezing somewhere in the northern Pacific, then making the Northwest Passage just by drifting on its own, which sounds far more reasonable (even if currents would likely make it impossible.)
@@lunartears6761the world wasn't in an ice age the way we think of it, but there was like 50 years of WAY colder than average weather. Also it does get into the negatives in new england, when i lived there it got to -16° Farenheit once
@@user-ConnorKaroThompsonanytime there is ice on the poles its technically an ice age. I live in the midwest an about 5 years ago we had a February where the high for the month was -12f.
Had to ring the notification bell. I'm not much of a mariner, but I enjoy your tellings. Haven't heard any in a long time until this popped to my feed.
I've never thought of ghost stories as a real thing, but the hopes and fears of the teller. A "what if" of what could happen in a worst case scenario. The Octavia is a nightmare spoken in the morning by a crew going into Arctic waters. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it's pointless or stupid. Kinda like monsters eating naughty kids
I think you're being a little presumptuous there, mate. 💀 At no point has he ever said these stories were _pointless._ He merely states that this is a factual channel and he is maintaining the integrity of that. He says it's unlikely and _why_ that's the case.
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim I'm not sure how to say this without being presumptuous, so here I go. It sounds to me like the stories are being dismissed as meaningless
@@whee38 Then you're created your own narrative that's not based on facts or reality. You're creating a fantasy in your own head. He never said that, he never alluded to it. He is playing a character, that character being someone who doesn't believe in ghost stories and is curmudgeonly about the idea of non-factual information. He is also the other character, the ghost story loving ghost. He is both characters. Both the one dismissing them and the one enjoying them. These videos are for entertinment purposes. He dedicates the majority of the video to the story and only a small portion to 'debunking' it. If he was trying to shit on them, he'd just spend the entire time doing that.
So glad you guys are working together again, maybe for one Halloween special do you think you guys can do the paranormal activities on the SS Great Eastern hehe
Hope at some point you could cover about the Mysterious Disappearance of the SS Pacific The only supposed clue about her destiny was a Message in a Bottle found years after she vanished My best wishes Matey Octavius is one of my favourite tales, Grandpa used to tell me that story
Having recently read "Frozen in Time"(about the Franklin expedition), the captain of this ship was a fool of the highest order if that was his actual plan(doubtful). Better equipped ships 100 years later would loose entire crews and ships.
Always a pleasure to see The Creepster. I'm glad he was able to return after the writer's Boo-nion Strike! Oh, great vid too Skipper, have a Happy Halloween shipmates!
I was wondering where the seasonal spooky videos would be uploaded. Hopefully you got more of them coming before the month's end ( It did not happen :( )
Hey, been enjoying the content and I'm really glad to see you back. I was wondering if you've ever considered doing a video on the collision between USS Washington (BB-56) and USS Indiana (BB-58) that occurred on or about 1 February 1944?
Welcome back. This video was interesing even though I've known about the legend of the Octavius. One ship you really should do a video about is MV Joyita aka Mary Celeste of the Pacific. That would be awesome. Keep up your good work.
Putting the decision on the passage side I think the most unbelievable part of this whole thing is a wooden ship surviving for 13 years in the ocean without any sort of maintenance. Sea ice aside imagine what the boring worms, Barnacles, and every other woodeating creature would have done to that things hull. And that's BEFORE you get to the salt, the switch from wood to Metal clad to solid metal, to metal and fiberglass was done for a reason and one of those reasons is that wooden ships do not last long. Iron clad ships don't last long either, longer than just plain wood but still this sounds like it was just plain wood. Five or six years I might believe maybe you could convince me of seven if you could point to an example, but thirteen is asking too much. Yes yes I know that they've found perfectly preserved wooden ships on the floor of the ocean but those are rare and the locations are unique in a way that prevents the usual rot from happening. This is not one of them.
Are there any stories of ghosts being successfully exorcised by a crew? Honestly not a fan of the Creepster, but I really do like your storytelling style and the breakdown afterwards of what's wrong with these stories factually.
Nice story, and a lovely denouement presenting the facts. The tale was just as credible as the Philadelphia experiment, or the Swedish farmer who unearthed 14th Century Viking rune tablets in 18th Century Minnesota- both _totally_ credible!
In fairness, it’s far more credible then the Philadelphia experiment. The PE is obviously a hoax, relies on fantastical beliefs about technology that could not be possible, and is easily contradicted by the USS Eldridge’s 20th century service records, The Octavius story is somewhat possible and the record keeping of the 18th century leaves more wiggle room. Octavius is a legend not verifiable by historically known records, but the Philly ex is a hoax constructed by one guy and promoted by a crank who owned a minor publisher
The moment they stated that they were a Merchant ship heading to China and somehow bound up in Canada, I immediately knew they were trying their hand at the Northwest passage. As for reason they went there, one could just chalk it up to incompetence but at the same time its unlikely this whole thing really happened at all.
Hull would've been matchsticks by the first winter. And it would take a really crazy crew to try. First successful passage was Amundsen in Gjoa, but that was a very small ship and even then it was a near thing. Fram (Nansen) did survive a number of winters in the Arctic, but it was specifically designed to be frozen in.
I've never been big on maritime stuff, but after watching some Return of the Obra Dinn stuff your channel was recommended to me and I'm hooked. Your vids always send me down the rabbit holes of reading more on the material
So glad to see the Creepster make a return!!! Who knows, perhaps he will get his own channel one day?? Yes- I find it hard to believe a small wooden ship could survive 13 years in the pack ice AND somehow drift through the Northwest passage AND still be afloat. The Franklin ships were already leaking and damaged after just a couple of winters in the ice and beyond repair when they were abandoned shortly thereafter.
After watching Terror and reading about how impenetrable, mystic and dangerous any expedition to find Northwest Passage was - it becomes clear that a random run of the mill captain sailing with his family would NEVER in his right might just willy nilly decide "oh pffft lets just save time and CUT THROUGH THE MOST DANGEROUS SEA ROUTE IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD". Still, a cool story.
Your channel is brilliant, one of my favorites. Love your remit of sticking to facts and research. That said, the Creepster (and your takedown of his superstition) is hilarious, and I look forward to next year's edition. :)
Wasn't this story the inspiration for the Star Trek episode of a similar vein? Bunch of starfleet personnel found stone cold frozen dead in the midst of their lives.
Like some dead bodies would stop a whaling captain from pulling that bastard back to the port for a salvage. Once it was past the ice limit it would be trivial to clear it and crew it or take it in tow. Why would the crew have huddled and froze to death if ice-bound instead of trying to walk south to safety? Funny how the binding of the log had broken although one would expect the pages to be frozen together. Seems there was a lot of stuff still left to burn on the ship with hammocks and sails and an unreinforced hull would have likely buckled if ice bound. Pretty unbelievable and not really that atmospheric, frozen corpses aren't particularly scary. It would have been better if they found blood and human meat on cutting boards and hooks but no-one on board. We know the Franklin expedition led to some cannibalism and it would make the fearing a curse more believable.
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an urban legend traced back to 1828 ... that alone makes the tale kinda cool ...
... no pun intended ... ;-)
The Octavius is one of those legends that's both interesting and creepy. A ship with it's deceased crew completing the infamous Northwest Passage posthumously is certainly something that was a page turner then as it is now.
First the return of maritime horrors after a lengthy hiatus, now the Creepster! Heck yeah shipmates! 💀
Which channel? Sorry I'm new
@@BruceKraftJrlucky you, so many unwatched videos to listen to, great videos on this banger of a channel frfr
Let’s not forget to mention that he played a coast guard Alaska themed arma op with jay raptor that was an absolute acid trip
While the route they took doesn't make much sense, the corpses could have been a result of flash freezing. If the captain's log detailed surprisingly warm air there could have been the possibility of a sudden storm or hurricane. Falling rain pulls cold air with it due to friction, and as colder air sinks, the downdraft is further enhanced. It's a stretch but scientifically plausible. Glad to have another video from you, an excellent telling of an old tale.
Yeah weather can be weird, and expecting it to last was a terrible mistake.
As for sinking.... one note about ice-bound ships is that the ice will badly damage hulls. Simply letting it thaw will result in the ship "leaking like a sieve" before sinking rapidly. It won't sink while icebound due to the ice holding it up. But when it melts... nope.
Even if thats the case that is a hell of a bad luck strike. I mean just freezing to death slowly is bad enough. But it's possible but not that easy to occur. It's more likely the crew on the herald got up to something on board and made up a story.
@@marhawkman303similar things to happen to concrete when ice gets up in there, the “pores” already present are forced further open and cracks are exacerbated by the ice repeatedly thawing and refreezing
A Northwest passage attempt in 1760's? Pure inspiration- uh, I mean "Insanity!"
Yes!
Wasn’t the world still an ice age in the 1700’s? I heard something about how brutally cold the coast of New England was on average, it could get into the negatives.🤔😳
The version I always heard involved the ship getting blown off course and freezing somewhere in the northern Pacific, then making the Northwest Passage just by drifting on its own, which sounds far more reasonable (even if currents would likely make it impossible.)
@@lunartears6761the world wasn't in an ice age the way we think of it, but there was like 50 years of WAY colder than average weather. Also it does get into the negatives in new england, when i lived there it got to -16° Farenheit once
@@user-ConnorKaroThompsonanytime there is ice on the poles its technically an ice age.
I live in the midwest an about 5 years ago we had a February where the high for the month was -12f.
I hope Antonia Graza gets it's own Halloween video one of these days when October comes around. Even if she's fictional, but she deserves a video.
Maybe an April Fool's video.
Maybe an April Fool's video.
If the Antonia graza was a real ship, I wonder how long her career would have been?
The most unbelievable part of this is guy going "let me find the northwest passage on my way home". If that's factual, it's goddamn hilarious
The Creepster returns! About damned time, save mah boy from Cleveland, Ohio!
"bub" - I like the cut of this ghost's jib
We get a ghost ship video AND The Creepster this month?? Best Halloween EVER. Also very well written with interesting info as always
Had to ring the notification bell.
I'm not much of a mariner, but I enjoy your tellings. Haven't heard any in a long time until this popped to my feed.
Welcome back "The Creepster"!
Oh shit one of my favorite bands is called Ghost Ship Octavius, had no idea it was a real ship lmao
Return of the Creepster! Even though our host may hate him, his visits never fail to entertain.
"I will see you next year" Gun pointed at you, feels like the IRS...
"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
- Mark Twain
Sounds like the inspiration for two star trek episodes, The Naked Time (TOS) and The Naked Now (TNG). In both they find a ship full of frozen people.
I am glad to see that The Creepster has returned!
When we needed him most, the Creepster delivered!
Good to see you again Creeepster can't wait to hear this new story
I am so glad they brought back the creepster! I love his character! 😂
This story really had me Frozen in fear, I mean it sent a real Chill down my spine. Just a very Chilling tale
Let that be a lesson to you
Mmmm… I don’t know …. I thought it was pretty COOL….
I hope this is a sign that more content is in the works. I’ve been really hooked on this channel
Glad to see the Creepster has returned. I was worried I wouldn't see him this year
I've never thought of ghost stories as a real thing, but the hopes and fears of the teller. A "what if" of what could happen in a worst case scenario. The Octavia is a nightmare spoken in the morning by a crew going into Arctic waters. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it's pointless or stupid. Kinda like monsters eating naughty kids
I think you're being a little presumptuous there, mate. 💀
At no point has he ever said these stories were _pointless._ He merely states that this is a factual channel and he is maintaining the integrity of that.
He says it's unlikely and _why_ that's the case.
Folk stories are incredibly interesting. A great look into their culture.
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim I'm not sure how to say this without being presumptuous, so here I go. It sounds to me like the stories are being dismissed as meaningless
@@whee38 Then you're created your own narrative that's not based on facts or reality. You're creating a fantasy in your own head. He never said that, he never alluded to it. He is playing a character, that character being someone who doesn't believe in ghost stories and is curmudgeonly about the idea of non-factual information. He is also the other character, the ghost story loving ghost. He is both characters. Both the one dismissing them and the one enjoying them. These videos are for entertinment purposes. He dedicates the majority of the video to the story and only a small portion to 'debunking' it. If he was trying to shit on them, he'd just spend the entire time doing that.
So glad you guys are working together again, maybe for one Halloween special do you think you guys can do the paranormal activities on the SS Great Eastern hehe
The Creepster is the best, hopefully next year's one is on the Bannockburn, it's the most legendary ghost ship from the Great Lakes
That was also a famous battle involving William Wallace
@@StrangeScaryNewEngland Wallace was long dead by then, Bannockburn was won by Robert the Bruce
@@whensomethingcriesagain You are correct, I had the two mixed up. Thank you! (Also, Robert married into my family (Ross).)
He’s back ladies and gentlemen, he’s back!
Our fearless captain has returned!
I am so glad you’re back! I watch a lot of ‘maritime disaster’ channels but you’re my favorite one by far!
Hope at some point you could cover about the Mysterious Disappearance of the SS Pacific
The only supposed clue about her destiny was a Message in a Bottle found years after she vanished
My best wishes Matey
Octavius is one of my favourite tales, Grandpa used to tell me that story
Having recently read "Frozen in Time"(about the Franklin expedition), the captain of this ship was a fool of the highest order if that was his actual plan(doubtful). Better equipped ships 100 years later would loose entire crews and ships.
Buddy was definitely in trouble lol
Don't forget Dan Simmons's *_“The Terror”_* (2007), upon which is based the 1st season of 2018 AMC television series *_The Terror_*
I missed your macabre tales. Glad you're back.
Thank you for bringing back the Creepster.
Always a pleasure to see The Creepster. I'm glad he was able to return after the writer's Boo-nion Strike! Oh, great vid too Skipper, have a Happy Halloween shipmates!
Creepy stuff, being late October, perfect timing. Great job!
Welcome back creepster all good stuff always enjoy watching
Lmao I honestly cannot imagine the audacity to just casually decide to take the northwest passage
There are few channels that I will watch every single video as soon as I get the chance, but this is one of them. And gotta love the spooky Union
So great to see this channel coming back, wonderful videos
From now on I’m using the line “unless you wanna hear from my union rep cut the sass”
I was wondering where the seasonal spooky videos would be uploaded. Hopefully you got more of them coming before the month's end
( It did not happen :( )
Been subbed for like a year, great content. These Halloween vids are among your best.
Finally! You are here! Yesh yesh yesh yesh!
Glad youre back here Sailor.
Octavius: "Why nobody believes in me anymore?"
SS Baychimo: "It's ok, buddy. I got you."
The Creepster is so alluring! 🔥 💀
So glad to see you back!
Hey, been enjoying the content and I'm really glad to see you back.
I was wondering if you've ever considered doing a video on the collision between USS Washington (BB-56) and USS Indiana (BB-58) that occurred on or about 1 February 1944?
Glad this has graced my feed.
Forgot how much I enjoy your content
Dude is back and with my favorite ghost ship
Turns out that it's not just me who love to change the plan & route at last minutes. Especially in family vacations 😂🙈
I can't find any ship disasters on RUclips that I haven't watched. Glad to get a new one.
I love the Spookster's return I Liked the video five times!
I MISSED THESE!!!! Great work as always :)
Awesome to see the Creepster back again!
Welcome back. This video was interesing even though I've known about the legend of the Octavius. One ship you really should do a video about is MV Joyita aka Mary Celeste of the Pacific. That would be awesome. Keep up your good work.
Putting the decision on the passage side I think the most unbelievable part of this whole thing is a wooden ship surviving for 13 years in the ocean without any sort of maintenance. Sea ice aside imagine what the boring worms, Barnacles, and every other woodeating creature would have done to that things hull. And that's BEFORE you get to the salt, the switch from wood to Metal clad to solid metal, to metal and fiberglass was done for a reason and one of those reasons is that wooden ships do not last long. Iron clad ships don't last long either, longer than just plain wood but still this sounds like it was just plain wood. Five or six years I might believe maybe you could convince me of seven if you could point to an example, but thirteen is asking too much.
Yes yes I know that they've found perfectly preserved wooden ships on the floor of the ocean but those are rare and the locations are unique in a way that prevents the usual rot from happening. This is not one of them.
Are there any stories of ghosts being successfully exorcised by a crew?
Honestly not a fan of the Creepster, but I really do like your storytelling style and the breakdown afterwards of what's wrong with these stories factually.
the Creepster is both annoying and charming. His dialogue was better written this year.
@@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920except this year I couldn’t understand a word he said lmao
Probably need a priest for that. Coupled with how superstitious sailors are I would surmise they would avoid ghosts and demons whenever possible.
I'm so glad you're back. I remember watching all your content, but somehow I wasn't subscribed so i couldn't find you again.
Nice story, and a lovely denouement presenting the facts.
The tale was just as credible as the Philadelphia experiment, or the Swedish farmer who unearthed 14th Century Viking rune tablets in 18th Century Minnesota- both _totally_ credible!
In fairness, it’s far more credible then the Philadelphia experiment. The PE is obviously a hoax, relies on fantastical beliefs about technology that could not be possible, and is easily contradicted by the USS Eldridge’s 20th century service records,
The Octavius story is somewhat possible and the record keeping of the 18th century leaves more wiggle room.
Octavius is a legend not verifiable by historically known records, but the Philly ex is a hoax constructed by one guy and promoted by a crank who owned a minor publisher
The moment they stated that they were a Merchant ship heading to China and somehow bound up in Canada, I immediately knew they were trying their hand at the Northwest passage. As for reason they went there, one could just chalk it up to incompetence but at the same time its unlikely this whole thing really happened at all.
He's back!!
Love it! Happy Halloween 🎃
I'd love to see one of these videos cover the Baychimo. I feel like that would be the one ghost story where they could both have fun.❤
Hull would've been matchsticks by the first winter. And it would take a really crazy crew to try. First successful passage was Amundsen in Gjoa, but that was a very small ship and even then it was a near thing. Fram (Nansen) did survive a number of winters in the Arctic, but it was specifically designed to be frozen in.
The creepsters voice is so good
that union bit was good lmao
Thumbs up new subscribers here from Cornwall UK 🇬🇧 👍
Much like “The wreck of the Titan” predates Titanic, and even if untrue, this story is eerily similar to the fates of Erebus and Terror. 🥶
Great to see the Spookster again ❤
I do love me some maritime horrors for halloween! Thanks man
I've never been big on maritime stuff, but after watching some Return of the Obra Dinn stuff your channel was recommended to me and I'm hooked. Your vids always send me down the rabbit holes of reading more on the material
So glad to see the Creepster make a return!!! Who knows, perhaps he will get his own channel one day?? Yes- I find it hard to believe a small wooden ship could survive 13 years in the pack ice AND somehow drift through the Northwest passage AND still be afloat. The Franklin ships were already leaking and damaged after just a couple of winters in the ice and beyond repair when they were abandoned shortly thereafter.
it's just not Spooky Month until i hear a new ghost ship story
Thank you, very enjoyable. I started having doubts when the boarding party were too scared by a few dead bodies to check the holds!
You have the best videos of all the marine guys. Would love more regular videos when possible! Much love
After watching Terror and reading about how impenetrable, mystic and dangerous any expedition to find Northwest Passage was - it becomes clear that a random run of the mill captain sailing with his family would NEVER in his right might just willy nilly decide "oh pffft lets just save time and CUT THROUGH THE MOST DANGEROUS SEA ROUTE IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD". Still, a cool story.
Maritime Dude is back! Hooray! Thank you for another cool story!
Your channel is brilliant, one of my favorites. Love your remit of sticking to facts and research.
That said, the Creepster (and your takedown of his superstition) is hilarious, and I look forward to next year's edition. :)
Watching this while looking out over the beagle channel. Very cool!
hell yea! its good to see ur back!
This story would make a good setpiece for a d&d session
I've been looking forward to this.
YO SCARY BOAT MAN RETURNED!! LETS GOOOOO
Wasn't this story the inspiration for the Star Trek episode of a similar vein? Bunch of starfleet personnel found stone cold frozen dead in the midst of their lives.
missed you man, love your humor
Happy Halloween and thanks as always.
Love this channel so much! Keep up the great work, fair winds and following seas!
Amazing story and that end bit XD man I love this channel
Like some dead bodies would stop a whaling captain from pulling that bastard back to the port for a salvage. Once it was past the ice limit it would be trivial to clear it and crew it or take it in tow.
Why would the crew have huddled and froze to death if ice-bound instead of trying to walk south to safety? Funny how the binding of the log had broken although one would expect the pages to be frozen together. Seems there was a lot of stuff still left to burn on the ship with hammocks and sails and an unreinforced hull would have likely buckled if ice bound.
Pretty unbelievable and not really that atmospheric, frozen corpses aren't particularly scary. It would have been better if they found blood and human meat on cutting boards and hooks but no-one on board. We know the Franklin expedition led to some cannibalism and it would make the fearing a curse more believable.
I love the spooky vids!🎃👻☠
As soon as I heard "Northwest Passage" I knew 😂
this is the first one in SIX MONTHS.
Ok that's it. What the hell is the music he uses? For years I've been trying to figure it out
Looking forward to the return of the Creepster this year
10:29 This is an awesome channel. I appreciate the facts "Captain Curmudgeon"
“Told you we would die taking this route” captains last words
See you in a Month Creepster can't wait!
Well done sir!! Keep up the good work!!
Creepster is a very dapper gent!