The Forgotten Empress

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • In the year 1914, the world was two years removed from the horrendous disaster that was the RMS Titanic. A disaster just as great in magnitude would follow this year, but it's often forgotten or not compared. Why is that? Stay tuned and discover the story of the RMS Empress of Ireland, the Forgotten Empress.
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  • @xsuperduperspoonx
    @xsuperduperspoonx Год назад +249

    My girlfriend just asked me "Are you watching Sad Boat Show, again?" haha

  • @fabianzimmermann5495
    @fabianzimmermann5495 Год назад +799

    Interestingly enough her sister ship, the Empress of Britain, was also involved in collisions, ramming two other ships and sinking them both. She rammed one ship in the St. Lawrence River in 1912 during fog, almost foreshadowing her sisters demise. She also struck an iceberg only eleven days after the Titanic did, but she survived.

    • @TheaSvendsen
      @TheaSvendsen Год назад +25

      Wait… was incidents with ships hitting icebergs common back then? I don’t think I’ve heard about another one besides the titanic and now you’re telling me it happened just eleven days after :O

    • @fabianzimmermann5495
      @fabianzimmermann5495 Год назад +59

      @@TheaSvendsen I'm not sure how common it was, but it did happen from time to time. Keep in mind that the iceberg that the Titanic hit belonged to a huge ice field that was so extensive that other ships near the Titanic had been forced to stop for the night as they were almost surrounded by them. So another ship hitting another iceberg that season doesn't seem that surprising to me as there were plenty of icebergs around during that time frame.

    • @Merennulli
      @Merennulli Год назад +34

      @@TheaSvendsen It's always been common. Even now, the Institute for Ocean Technology maintains a database with 680+ collisions between ships and icebergs with roughly 2.3 per year. Even as recently as 2007 a cruise ship was sunk by one. (Thankfully, with no loss of life.)

    • @hellothere4589
      @hellothere4589 Год назад +15

      ​@@TheaSvendsen It was pretty common in total 11 ships sank from icebergs in the years 1900-1913 and in tath time to over 100+ ships collided with icebergs but surviving

    • @Brock_Landers
      @Brock_Landers Год назад +13

      @@TheaSvendsen OK, so first, I'm going to say that if that is you in your profile photo, you are blindingly beautiful (sorry, it's just an observation, I'm married), but yes, it was a fairly common occurrence for ships of that era as well as eras before to come across and even collide with icebergs and field ice which almost always resulted in hull damage. That being said, after having researched maritime history for the last 33 years of my life I know for a fact that the SS Californian that was within 10-15 miles of Titanic and her officers actually saw the distress rockets that were being fired, had stopped for the night after having been surrounded by field ice. Her radio officer Cyril Evans had attempted to notify the Titanic's Marconi operators (Jack Phillips and Harold Bride) of their situation when Jack Phillips interrupted him and said, "shut up, shut up, I am busy," as he was sending passenger messages to the Cape Race station which was a nearby telegraph station in Newfoundland. Titanic's Marconi set had actually broken down a couple of nights before due to a short in the windings of the stator, and while Marconi operators were instructed NOT to attempt to repair any issues with the equipment, Phillips and Bride took it upon themselves to repair the issue. Just think, had they not attempted to repair it themselves, who knows if any lives would've been saved on April 14-15th, 1912? Very few people actually know this fact, and I admit that I still learn new facts every day from the disaster that other people bring to light.

  • @samc8716
    @samc8716 Год назад +1086

    When we needed him the most. He returned

  • @timbrown4576
    @timbrown4576 8 месяцев назад +76

    My wife's Grandfather (Ronald Ferguson) was senior Marconi Wireless Operator on the Empress that night....he sent out the Mayday before she went down and was then rescued by the Lady Evelyn where he then used the tugs wireless room to continue sending survivors messages to Father Point. Nearly 70 years later (when he was 87) Jacques Cousteau took him down in his submersible to visit the wreck. Cousteau's crew were touched that they had a survivor of the wreck on board and treated him with great respect.

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 7 месяцев назад +14

      I think that’s brave of him to go down and see the wreck. No doubt it brought back horrible memories.

    • @timbrown4576
      @timbrown4576 7 месяцев назад +12

      He was some guy: Served in the RFC in WW1 (flying over battles like the Somme and directing artillery by morse code, set up Egyptian State broadcasting with Marconi (later to become the BBC overseas service) was with Howard Carter when he opened Tutankhamens tomb, evacuated back to UK in WW2. Ended up as chairman of Marconi Marine. OBE, Egyptian Order of the nile.....died well into his 90s...Bit of a dude !

    • @timbrown4576
      @timbrown4576 7 месяцев назад +11

      ....and I'm sitting staring at the Empress Canadian Pacific dinner service plate Cousteau recovered for him.

    • @cyber_rachel7427
      @cyber_rachel7427 7 месяцев назад +7

      ​@timbrown4576 what a full life! Sounds like he'd have had a great many stories to share

    • @keithdrummond1003
      @keithdrummond1003 2 месяца назад

      Amazing

  • @20thCenturyManTrad
    @20thCenturyManTrad Год назад +191

    It's really sad that this video is longer than it took for the Empress to sink...chilling and horrifying. God rest the souls of those poor souls. It's a disgrace that more people don't know about her.

    • @emerybonner7973
      @emerybonner7973 Год назад

      Her sinking was overshadowed by the start of WW1 a couple months later. That is why many people do not know her story.

    • @peterf.229
      @peterf.229 Год назад +2

      some dank even faster than the Empress of Ireland .

    • @user-nb9ye4cv5g
      @user-nb9ye4cv5g Год назад +1

      @@peterf.229 Dank?

    • @terracotta6294
      @terracotta6294 Год назад

      Sad? I think you need to to revisit what you said here.

    • @CatalinaFOIA
      @CatalinaFOIA Год назад +4

      ​@@peterf.229sank? Auto correct is incorrect often. 😮

  • @marvindebot3264
    @marvindebot3264 Год назад +237

    That, sir, was a superbly told tale, one of your very best. I had heard of this sinking but not the details and it's sad that even when a company does all it can to build and maintain a safe ship the worst can still occur. Her captain sounds like a very interesting chap, did he ever write a book on his life?

    • @davep9528
      @davep9528 Год назад +10

      Joe Saward has written a book about him, titled “The Man Who Caught Crippen”, just in case you are interested.

  • @phaasch
    @phaasch Год назад +149

    This is by far the most detailed and informative account of the Empress' tragic fate. You make it very accessible to picture the sudden horror, from normality to death within 15 brief minutes.
    The Henry Kendall/ Crippen connection is amazing - no one has ever brought this up before, at least on RUclips. And then getting torpedoed on top of that- what an extraordinary life that man led, and I'll definitely be searching out more about him. Many, many thanks.

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 Год назад +3

      Yeah some collisions are... hard to imagine due to just how enormous the scale really is. This one... was intense. It could have been worse, but dang... it was horrible.

  • @boomrandomWriter
    @boomrandomWriter Год назад +328

    Absolutely cruel luck. Both captains' seemed to be making reasonable decisions given what they knew...up until the very last one.
    Also looked up Kendall's story, is awesome. Truly a man made of sturdy stuff.

    • @jamesfracasse8178
      @jamesfracasse8178 Год назад +16

      Lived in to his 90's! A life long well lived

    • @jamesknapp64
      @jamesknapp64 Год назад

      agreed here.

    • @ceu160193
      @ceu160193 Год назад +5

      @@jamesfracasse8178 It's surprising he remained in the navy after first sinking and went on to survive second.

    • @rayanderson5797
      @rayanderson5797 Год назад +3

      I was recently watching videos about the Costa Concordia. It's an interesting difference between that and this. A competent captain vs an incompetent one.

  • @maximal10
    @maximal10 Год назад +67

    First I heard of this tragedy was at my grandparents as they were parishioners of the local Salvation Army Church and noticed an article in the churches publication about the anniversary of the sinking.

  • @iamfluffy4200
    @iamfluffy4200 Год назад +47

    As a Canadian, I’m glad that the empress is getting more recognition.

  • @lordcantiismyname
    @lordcantiismyname Год назад +102

    I needed this so much today. It's always a great day when Maritime Horrors posts a new video

    • @guyk2260
      @guyk2260 Год назад +4

      Me too , what an unexpected treat !

    • @r0br33r
      @r0br33r Год назад +2

      Imagine "needing" stimulation so badly yet being so inept at creating it for yourself :')

    • @macon8638
      @macon8638 2 месяца назад

      @@r0br33r Maybe they were a bit stressed after having a bad day and needed something to unwind… have some empathy dude

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 Год назад +49

    I read the title and immediately knew what ship it was! Even more tragic then the Titanic yet relatively obscure in the public!

    • @emerybonner7973
      @emerybonner7973 Год назад +10

      Well, the loss of the Empress of Ireland was overshadowed by WW1, which began two months after she sank

    • @terracotta6294
      @terracotta6294 Год назад

      I beg to differ. Titanic had the richest people in the world on it. I'm thinking there have been a string of mass murders by the JESUIT Illuminati Freemasons.
      They made huge amounts of money - probably trillions, beginning with Bruce Ismay and JP Morgan sinking Titanic.

    • @terracotta6294
      @terracotta6294 Год назад

      ​@@emerybonner7973 - I suspect that this event was also intended to incite war. Somehow it got suppressed.

  • @flamingpickle8846
    @flamingpickle8846 Год назад +20

    This story is so similar to the Andrea Doria. Both liners were struck by Scandinavian icebreakers after miscommunications, and both Stockholm and Storstad saved many passengers.

    • @jytte-hilden
      @jytte-hilden Год назад +4

      Count on vikings to look for slaves among the survivors...

  • @joshuaryan1946
    @joshuaryan1946 Год назад +22

    Very interesting question--why is Titanic remembered and other disasters not? I recall that Stephen Cox, in "The Titanic Story," argued that the Titanic took 2 hrs and 40 minutes to sink, which is about the length of a Shakespeare play. This required people aboard to make decisions but gave them time to think and notice what others were doing, thus providing much more human interest than the horrifying disasters of the Empress and the Lusitania, which sank in minutes.

    • @plaidshirtanomaly
      @plaidshirtanomaly 9 месяцев назад +3

      Probably because it was one of the first and biggest, being touted as unsinkable the tragedy would've received a massive amount of media coverage, especially with it being a Whitestar Line ship. A company widely regarded for its luxury ships and shipping prowess

    • @masonhoover165
      @masonhoover165 9 месяцев назад +1

      the biggest, unsinkable ship sunk with a bunch of the people who were saved being rich celebs.

  • @celeste5932
    @celeste5932 Год назад +17

    YEEEESSSSSSSS
    As a resident of quebec with a father who was in the Navy, I was raised with the history of this ship and it's disaster....
    I still need to visit the Museum at Rimouski.
    So happy to see it there!!! ♥♥♥

  • @mikelagaffe
    @mikelagaffe Год назад +17

    im so glad to hear you speaking about this horrible tragedy.
    i come from rimouski and lived my whole childhood in the small village right next to father point, Sainte Luce. the sinking happened directly in front of it's 1.8km beach, about 2km's offshore.
    there are lots of plaques and pictures with maps.and informations, and there's a full museum in her honor at father point, at the foot of the lighthouse.
    they added a submarine to their exhibitions
    interesting fact: the external shape of the museum's building mimicks how the wreck s sitting at the bottom of the River

    • @janie88ful
      @janie88ful 10 месяцев назад

      🎉 wow. Thank you for sharing that information.
      I love when people make sure History is respected. ❤

  • @justindaniels9608
    @justindaniels9608 Год назад +46

    Not quite forgotten, Clive Cussler used the ship sinking as a plot point in his early Dirk Pitt novel "Night Probe!"

    • @danielseelye6005
      @danielseelye6005 Год назад +6

      Oh, how close America was to having Canada as the 51st state! 😉

    • @dontblockthebox
      @dontblockthebox Год назад +3

      I feel left out yall

    • @wheels-n-tires1846
      @wheels-n-tires1846 Год назад +3

      My favorite Cussler novel!!!

    • @peterf.229
      @peterf.229 Год назад

      i read that too 🤣

    • @KelleysQuiltsandCruises
      @KelleysQuiltsandCruises Год назад +3

      Interesting book. Good way to piss off 38 million Canadians though. Still I am a Cussler fan and have read all his books. “Ripping yarns” as my grandfather would have said.

  • @baileywright1656
    @baileywright1656 Год назад +14

    She is actually marked as a historic wreck on the area's nautical charts which is neat. Only one I can think of off the top of my head. I didn't know about her until I found a 1914 copy of 'The Tragic story of the Empress of Ireland and Other Great Sea Disasters' at a used book store in 2013

  • @mbryson2899
    @mbryson2899 Год назад +18

    I have watched many accounts of the sinking. This is far and away one of the very best.
    Thank you for sharing this.

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 Год назад +22

    Great video. Interesting that they were able to salvage items from the wreck over the years and that now wreck is a protected site.
    PS - salvage crew recovered 318 bags of mail and 251 bars of silver bullion.

  • @rostundradau3442
    @rostundradau3442 Год назад +11

    Currently in the process of getting a captains license and have a safety exam soon. Glad my favorite RUclipsr uploaded again should be good motivation to study, lol

    • @MaritimeHorrors
      @MaritimeHorrors  Год назад +18

      The best motivation for any new Captain: Don't show up on Maritime Horrors' channel lol

  • @dillonmcannnell
    @dillonmcannnell Год назад +67

    she is never forgotten by ship wreak buffs. but she is forgot by the world. sadly

  • @inwalters
    @inwalters Год назад +19

    The sinking of the Empress plays a significant part of the plot of the 1981 Clive Cussler novel, "Night Probe!". Before I read the novel, I had never heard of this wreck.

    • @k3D4rsi554maq
      @k3D4rsi554maq Год назад +5

      It's kinda unbelievable how these ships managed to hit each other.

    • @danielseelye6005
      @danielseelye6005 Год назад

      Oh how close America was to having Canada as the 51st State! 😉

    • @jon9021
      @jon9021 Год назад +1

      @@danielseelye6005 not really mate (War of 1812).

    • @danielseelye6005
      @danielseelye6005 Год назад

      @@jon9021 Read the book "Night Probe".
      *Spoilers*
      The UK was in financial straits and needed money just before WW1, so they made a secret deal to sell Canada to the US for 1 billion. Both sides agreed, but both copies of the Treaty were lost: One on a train, the "Manhattan Limited" going off a bridge and the other copy went down on the RMS "Empress of Ireland". When Parliament got wind of the PM selling Canada, they threw a snit and had any records buried.
      Fast forward to the 1980s and the (alternate history) United States is in such bad shape that when someone finds out about this forgotten treaty, they decide to search for the copies and justify claiming all of Canada as part of the United States so they can have access to all the resources. The UK gets wind and send MI6 agents to stop it and destroy both copies out of fear the other nations in the Commonwealth will leave and take the UK down as a result.

    • @jon9021
      @jon9021 Год назад +1

      @@danielseelye6005 I will! I like Clive Cussler, haven’t read this one!

  • @makoqc8801
    @makoqc8801 Год назад +12

    I'm a resident of the town that the Empress sinked at and this makes me very happy to see someone cover it! Thank you!

  • @connorredshaw7994
    @connorredshaw7994 Год назад +14

    Great to see you do a video on this disaster which has become known as Canada's titanic may all those lost in the sinking rest in peace.

  • @Maritime_History
    @Maritime_History Год назад +10

    Great video as always. Keep it up.
    May all lost during the sinking of RMS Empress of Ireland on May 29, 1914 never be forgotten.

  • @TrineDaely
    @TrineDaely Год назад +6

    Teak is beautiful wood, my parents had a teak set of desk, bar, coffee table, and end tables they bought when he was stationed in Thailand. It did fine in FL with its high humidity, but when they lived in other places like Washington state, it had to be hauled outside and oiled thoroughly every year or it would dry out and crack.
    Thank you for this coverage of the Empress, good to have you back! I wouldn't mind a series about the lives of some of the captains/crews who went down with famous shipwrecks.

    • @DamonNomad82
      @DamonNomad82 5 месяцев назад

      My mom grew up in northern Thailand from the 1950s to the 1970s. To this day, one of her most prized possessions is a large teak trunk her parents bought her when she was a child.

  • @lumpchunker5516
    @lumpchunker5516 9 месяцев назад +3

    Great video! I did a big history project on the Empress when I was in grade 8, and I've been fascinated by her ever since. My Mum drove me to Mount Pleasant Cemetery in Toronto to see the Salvation Army monument to the 167 Salvationists lost in the sinking, and the graves of the 22 who were found. It was amazing and sobering to see these real-life monuments to history most people only read about in books.
    She sank in the blink of an eye, and was forgotten just as quickly when WW1 began. The Empress, her passengers and her crew will forever be a haunting, fascinating piece of history.

  • @notCynicalReally
    @notCynicalReally Год назад +7

    Wooo! Yeah baby! New video that's what I'm talkin about!!!

  • @oriontaylor
    @oriontaylor Год назад +6

    The inquiry’s transcript makes for fascinating reading, both for the information about the ship and accident and for showing the courtroom brilliance of Butler Aspinall, arguing for CPR. The Norwegian crew didn’t have a coherent, consistent story. The inquiry would be worthy of an in-depth video of its own.

  • @lawrencedewan9838
    @lawrencedewan9838 Год назад +2

    Thank You Sir,
    Canadian here.
    Truth is beauty
    No matter the horror

  • @Creebooken
    @Creebooken Год назад +6

    I remember going to the Empress of Ireland Museum in Quebec. Amazing history forgotten in time even with such a great lose of life.

  • @KFRUkraine
    @KFRUkraine Год назад +5

    I had known about the disaster for a long time now and I am glad people like you are telling this tale as the sinking was mostly forgotten by many for years

  • @doobat708
    @doobat708 Год назад +11

    Wow, never heard of the Empress of Ireland! What is it with Scandinavians getting in the way of passenger liners, though? This is about the third time I've heard that happen...

    • @Jane_8319
      @Jane_8319 Год назад +3

      It’s the viking in them /s

    • @TBone-bz9mp
      @TBone-bz9mp Год назад +3

      Also that it happened two times in Canada, maybe it was the ghost of ex-Vinlanders avenging themselves.

    • @nilslindstrom8087
      @nilslindstrom8087 Год назад

      It's the passenger liners that's in the way. If you see a viking coming at ya in the shippingchannel; GTFO :)

  • @EpicJoshua314
    @EpicJoshua314 Год назад +5

    I'm from Canada and a lot of people there don't know about this ship.
    Dr. James Grant's daughter is a good friend of my grandmother.
    Dr. Grant has a remarkable story: it took him several minutes just to open the door to his cabin because of the list, he was walking on the walls inside the ship, and when the ship had rolled completely onto its side, he was pulled through a porthole; the man emerging from a porthole in the portrait at 29:10 is likely Grant.

  • @shadowldrago
    @shadowldrago Год назад +8

    This is a very sad story because, there was no greed involved. No malice, no incompetence or cowardice, not even the enemy action one would expect in a war. This was just, pure misfortune. Both Captains did the best they could with the information they had. This was just, bad luck. If not for that fog bank, the two ships would likely have passed each other with little more than an "Oh hey, another ship. Neat."

    • @restitvtororbis5330
      @restitvtororbis5330 Год назад +3

      Perhaps that might be why the story is so unknown compared to the Titanic. This story has no 'unsinkable' ship being lost on its maiden voyage as though nature itself was insulted by the arrogance of man. No small army of the most famous people of the day being onboard. No overlooked pieces of information that could have avoided the tragedy entirely. The titanic lets people look through all the mistakes in hindsight and assign blame accordingly, and believe that they would have obviously seen the warning signs and prevented it. This story has no obvious villain, likely no villain at all, just 2 captains that wished for nothing more than to avoid the collision, and both tried to evade in just the right way that they both contributed to making the collision unavoidable. theres no moralistic lesson about arrogance and believing you have conquered some natural force, no greed and ambition pushing over a thousand people into danger to prove how fast your ship can cross an ocean.This story is uncomfortable because it shows that sometimes trying to avoid a tragedy, through cruel misfortune, can doom you all the same.

    • @emerybonner7973
      @emerybonner7973 Год назад +3

      ​@@restitvtororbis5330 another major reason for why the Empress of Ireland's story is not as well-known is because WW1 began a couple of months after the sinking

    • @shadowldrago
      @shadowldrago Год назад +1

      @@emerybonner7973 Could be both.

    • @emerybonner7973
      @emerybonner7973 Год назад +1

      @@shadowldrago yeah. It was both those reasons.
      You are right about there not being a villain. The captains made mistakes but that was because of being disorientated by the fog. A 2004 inquiry determined that is what happened

    • @shadowldrago
      @shadowldrago Год назад +1

      @@emerybonner7973 That doesn't surprise me. Fog isn't fun to deal with on land, where vehicles have MUCH less mass than at sea, so in 1905 with only horns to signal what they intend to do and the size of the ships? Woof...

  • @trelard
    @trelard Год назад +5

    The History Museum in Ottawa had an event sized display covering this exact ship. I was an interesting journey that walked you through the tragedy, as well as showing stuff like what the eating arrangements were and the menus used for ordering food. I wouldn't mind seeing it again, someday.

  • @the_fixer2593
    @the_fixer2593 Год назад +30

    I look forward to this video, like all of them. I wonder if you could cover the Costa Concordia next? I know it's been covered by others, but I'd like to see it done with your own style of video and storytelling.

    • @davidnitto9008
      @davidnitto9008 Год назад +2

      I second this please!!!!

    • @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
      @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa Год назад +10

      He's mentioned before he's really cautious about doing videos about modern disasters. He's worried about a survivor or a family member of a victim coming across his video and there being some inaccuracy or something that offends them.

    • @danielseelye6005
      @danielseelye6005 Год назад +1

      I don't think he could outdo Internet Historian's opus. 😁

    • @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
      @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Год назад +1

      I'd assume that modern shipwrecks probably won't be covered.

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 7 месяцев назад

      Right, the podcast Well There’s Your Problem has already done the Costa as irreverently and goofily as possible, I’m sure Maritime Disasters would do it justice.

  • @Starfoxfan-rg6iz
    @Starfoxfan-rg6iz Год назад +5

    In all honesty the only reason why i remember the empress of Ireland is for how quick and brutal it sank, i knew about it for some time though i wish it would get talked about more, great work as always

  • @CalledTurnAGundam
    @CalledTurnAGundam Год назад +3

    Every time I see the words "Empress of Ireland" the Lost Liners theme plays in my head.

  • @lordcaptainvonthrust3rd
    @lordcaptainvonthrust3rd Год назад +49

    Brilliantly done and absolutely a superb choice.
    Very few people have heard of the Empress of Ireland let alone the massive tragedy she became "famous" for
    10/10
    (had lessons been better learned from this perhaps the accident with the Stockholm and Andrea Doria wouldn't have happened)

    • @karolinasandrapaulinamarit8090
      @karolinasandrapaulinamarit8090 Год назад +4

      Not in the USSR. We knew this catastrophe as "Canada's Black Friday." This was the title of a chapter in the book "Secrets of Marine Disasters" by the Soviet marine writer Lev Skryagin.

    • @lordcaptainvonthrust3rd
      @lordcaptainvonthrust3rd Год назад +1

      @@karolinasandrapaulinamarit8090 that's really interesting because the Canadian government weren't even aware of it until late last century.
      Fascinating that another country is more familiar with the tragedy than the country involved.
      "Fourteen Minutes" is a really good book on the Empress of Ireland if you're interested.
      And thank you for sharing that 😊

    • @brandycarter9829
      @brandycarter9829 Год назад +1

      @ Lord Captain von Thrust III Love, Love your YT handle! Sounds both regal & sus at the same time, lol 😆

    • @karolinasandrapaulinamarit8090
      @karolinasandrapaulinamarit8090 Год назад +1

      @@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd
      Well, Lev Skryagin, IMHO, was the best naval diplomat in the whole human history. For example, he received a personal permission from the Canadian government to visit the Sable Island.
      The Soviet diplomat. In 1976.
      Lev Skryagin also had the great connections. He personaly knew such people as John Finlay and Riss Harill. He had official access to the most famous maritime archives.
      And, most importantly, he shared his great knowledge with the people.
      Here is a far from complete list of books written by this truly great man:
      "In the footsteps of sea disasters", "Secrets of sea disasters", "How the ship ruined the city", "The last SOS of "Volturno"".

  • @aircadoot1905
    @aircadoot1905 Год назад +4

    So glad you covered this one, I first heard of the empress of Ireland from my great grandmother, but never knew the full story till now, keep up the good work man.

  • @psyc9052
    @psyc9052 Год назад +6

    Yes exactly what I needed today welcome back

  • @GLASSB182
    @GLASSB182 Год назад +5

    My gawd, I nearly burst into tears after hearing how many of the children were lost.

  • @evanceaicovschi7230
    @evanceaicovschi7230 Год назад +19

    I wonder if there are any books about Henry Kendall. I'd love to read more about him, especially his encounters with those murderers.

    • @Jane_8319
      @Jane_8319 Год назад +6

      For sure. He sounds like he has a crazy story

    • @twistanturnu529
      @twistanturnu529 Год назад +4

      I cant find any just about him but Crippen books mention him (obviously haha) plus you could try Forgotten Empress: The Empress of Ireland Story by David Zeni

    • @adamwest8463
      @adamwest8463 Год назад +6

      There's a book titled The Man Who Caught Crippen about Kendall. It's pretty good - written by Joe Saward, a motorsports journalist. The Grand Prix Saboteurs, also by Saward, is quite good as well.

  • @oganvildevil
    @oganvildevil Год назад +8

    it feels wrong to get this excited about getting a "maritime horrors" alert
    but here we are

  • @julierobinson3633
    @julierobinson3633 Год назад +4

    I think what makes the Titanic story more memorable to people than this tragedy is two things - the fact that Titanic sank on her maiden voyage, and the fact that she had been touted as 'unsinkable'

    • @janie88ful
      @janie88ful 10 месяцев назад +1

      EXACTLY 💯

    • @lector-dogmatixsicarii1537
      @lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 8 месяцев назад

      >Brand new biggest and best high luxury ship
      >Bullshitting newspapers hyping it with the clickbait of the era
      >Very big history altering names
      >The extreme controversy around it
      >The Olympic's involvement in a collision with a destroyer beforehand with the same captain
      Traditional Canadian ship chicken has never resulted in such an ever-present string of consequences, though I am sure if the iceberg had a similarly Norwegian name, it would have been brought to trial, billed the Titanic's cost to Norway, and used to acquit sofa king stupid Smith with a sacrifice of Irishmen, because British moment.

  • @jullzml8170
    @jullzml8170 Месяц назад

    Thank you so much for coverning the Empress' story! Ever since I was a kid, I had an obsession with her history, mainly fueled by rage that she was never able to be grieved properly because of the war... I actually got to visit the Empress of Ireland museum in Rimouski twice, and I got to touch different parts of the glorious ship. My very first job choice was actually a diver, able to withstand the strong currents and icy waters of the St-Lawrence River and be able to visit the Empress. Of course, I never got to acheive that dream but I'd be lying if i said it wasn't still on my bucket list! I still keep a little shrine for the passengers and make sure that they are remembered to this day. Thank you again for sharing one of the most tragic events in maritime history (atleast in my opinion), and the story of her passengers.
    Edit: Captain Kendall was my first crush, to show you how obsessed I was

    • @Boo-dawg.
      @Boo-dawg. Месяц назад

      Has anyone ever told you that you're strange? Well, you're definitely strange.

  • @seanmarx973
    @seanmarx973 Год назад +5

    After a nightmare of classes, i needed this. Great work🎉

  • @trail-wolf4x4
    @trail-wolf4x4 Год назад +9

    Indeed, as worse a time as the Titanic. Yet she is in much shallower water and slowly being consumed by the current building silt

  • @bellaandrews6305
    @bellaandrews6305 Год назад +7

    Thank you so much. Love your stories!!!

  • @DKrueger1994
    @DKrueger1994 Год назад +20

    Empress of Ireland:
    Overshadowed by the sinking of Titanic and the start of the First World War later on.
    Forgotten by the world
    Never forgotten by historians

  • @chuckricher6850
    @chuckricher6850 Год назад +4

    I'm from Quebec and I am a huge fan of nautical disasters and consequently, your channel for quite sometime. Your video was incredible, very thorough research and I truly appreciate the amount of work you put into it. It's really touching that you took the time to cover our local maritime history. It's a small detail but I wanna specify that Rimouski is pronounced MOU like moose and not MOW like wow. 😊

  • @rhogardelmirev3530
    @rhogardelmirev3530 Год назад +4

    I love this disaster! My favorite after the Lusitania. Nice to have you back, Skipper.

    • @catcentrum
      @catcentrum Год назад +1

      Favorite disaster? You're messed up.

  • @TheIrishGamer16
    @TheIrishGamer16 Год назад +2

    Terrifying insanity. A 10000+ ton ship that took years to be built. Vanishes within 14 minutes.

  • @craigmorris4083
    @craigmorris4083 Год назад +6

    One of my relatives wend down with the Empress of Ireland.
    Never going to forget the ship, her crew and passengers.

  • @erniebubbert5995
    @erniebubbert5995 Год назад +1

    Tales of the sea and the vessels that brave them are enthralling. Thank you

  • @The_Modeling_Underdog
    @The_Modeling_Underdog Год назад +4

    Glad to see you back, mate.
    The behaviour of the Storstad's captain after the fact always seemed dogdy to me, to say the least. The enquiry is online at the Princes of Ireland Enquiry Project site for everyone to read. The man tried to weasel his way out of it, throwing the First Officer - Toftenes - under the bus in the meantime. I'm sure it's not the rule of thumb by which we should measure Norwegian captains but both Andersen of the SS Storstad and From of the SS Imo set the bar pretty low.
    Looking forward to the next one.
    Cheers.

  • @whitesapphire5865
    @whitesapphire5865 Год назад +3

    Somewhat eerily similar to the Stockholm Vs Andrea Doria incident.
    Well done for digging this story out of mists of time. Your videos just get better and better, and as a bonus, you have the perfect voice to go with it.

  • @rollertoaster812
    @rollertoaster812 Год назад +2

    The parallels between the the sinking of RMS Empress of Ireland and the later SS Andrea Doria are chilling. Thankfully, there were far fewer casualties from the Doria collision.

    • @emerybonner7973
      @emerybonner7973 Год назад +1

      Of course fewer casualties on the Andrea Doria. It took almost 10 hours for her to sink, so, more than enough time to get people off the ship.
      The Empress of Ireland only had 14 minutes

    • @rollertoaster812
      @rollertoaster812 Год назад

      @Emery Bonner good point, I really mean the similarities in the way confusion over relative course and position of the two ships involved and not understanding the other's intentions in a fog led to one ship basically t-boning the other.

  • @Merennulli
    @Merennulli Год назад +3

    Thank you for all the effort you put into the research for these. This isn't meant as a criticism of another channel, but I recently watched a video on this disaster, as well as their coverage of the Halifax disaster, and with both I was really wanting to hear your far more in depth and respectful retelling of the story. I ended up rewatching your Halifax disaster video, and now this one filled in so many gaps and gave the story the seriousness it deserved.

  • @Jen-rose76
    @Jen-rose76 Год назад +3

    I’m not sure why but I am so interested in these story’s. Most I have heard none of. It seems the only story anyone really knows about inside and out is Titanic. There are so many other lost ships with so many more aboard dying as there ship goes down. So many other sad story’s of so many people with a future, drowned. I have to say you tell there story’s so we’ll. I can see it in my mind and then of coarse the pictures in your video help also. Thank you for telling there story’s. R.I.P. to all of those many people that were lost or the many with ptsd for the rest of there lives that went threw hell to survive. (What an amazing captain, it’s just bad luck where they were hit and the time of the crash. )Hearing how many children and women that passed hurts my heart. The sad part is this is still happening even today. Not as many lost and not so often I believe mostly in the 80’s and 90’s. But still just as sad. Again Thank you for your videos. These story’s need to be heard. ❤❤🙏🏽🙏🏽♥️♥️ Great job.

  • @ElJorro
    @ElJorro Год назад +1

    I remember reading about this in Ballard's Shipwreck book

  • @erikwobst1831
    @erikwobst1831 Год назад +4

    I had heard of this one before but not in such detail...thanks for this amazing bit of history!

  • @kalkuttadrop6371
    @kalkuttadrop6371 Год назад +6

    Oh boy new video

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers Год назад +1

    I will admit that while I have been researching Titanic and maritime history in general for the last 33 years, I didn't know about the Empress of Ireland until about 15 years ago and I felt like I didn't know anything. I've researched the Halifax Explosion of the collision between the SS Imo and the Mont Blanc, I've known about the Lusitania disaster, the Titanic (obviously), the Britannic during WWI, the Eastland, but at the time there weren't too many references to the Empress at the time. Even Dr. Bob Ballard felt regret when having never heard of the Empress of Ireland disaster. This is a very well researched and put together documentary of the great ship and the following disaster thanks to the mistakes of the crew from both the Empress as well as the Storstad.

  • @CodeZero4090
    @CodeZero4090 Год назад +3

    Thank God, I was worried. Glad you're back

  • @markstott6689
    @markstott6689 Год назад +3

    I'm pleased to see that you had enough free time to get this made. Happy sailing.

  • @ReeseMacalma
    @ReeseMacalma Год назад +5

    Thank you for the new upload! You made my day good sir.

  • @jasonwalker3185
    @jasonwalker3185 Год назад +2

    Glad to see you back, I’m battling a cold, and was delighted to see this new content from your channel! Thanks again bro, hope everything going well for you, stay safe out there and keep up the great work!

  • @baconbliss4796
    @baconbliss4796 5 месяцев назад +7

    Am i the only one noticing a weird amount of these videos are Norwegian ice breaker right into the side of another ship

    • @hanzzel6086
      @hanzzel6086 2 месяца назад +1

      Norwegian ships in general crop up a lot in incidents from the 1960's and earlier.

  • @LycomingRailfan
    @LycomingRailfan Год назад +1

    My phone notified me a new Maritime Horrors was posted. I COULDN’T wait to get off work to fire up youtube on my drive home 🙏🏻

  • @Hyperion9700
    @Hyperion9700 Год назад +2

    Thank you so much for including the metric conversions 🙏

  • @davemcmahon8140
    @davemcmahon8140 Год назад +3

    Tragic story which I knew a little about. What I was unaware of the fact the two vessels had come to a full stop! I cannot imagine drowning in steerage. RIP

  • @madmanjoe1002
    @madmanjoe1002 Год назад +3

    Oh thank you. I was getting a little tired of listening to your old videos to fall asleep to. 🙂. Please can the next one be the Estonia?

  • @spergicide97
    @spergicide97 Год назад +1

    And I was just rewatching some of your older videos last night after thinking you haven't posted in a while. This was a pleasant surprise to come home from work to.

  • @ha420weednumber
    @ha420weednumber Год назад +3

    Thank you for changing the aspect ratio back it looks much better

    • @MaritimeHorrors
      @MaritimeHorrors  Год назад +2

      Hehe... What are you talking about? It's always been that way? I definitely didn't screw up the settings for like 4 videos straight. Don't be ridiculous. Heh... Hehe...

    • @ha420weednumber
      @ha420weednumber Год назад +1

      @@MaritimeHorrors lmao thought that might be the case. I noticed right away.

  • @ronjones1077
    @ronjones1077 Год назад +3

    Very well done ! I’ve read and seen several accounts of this disaster. This presentation is much more complete telling many more legs of the story. Thank you very much for your work. I subscribed. Take care from Alaska

  • @kleineb334
    @kleineb334 Год назад +4

    One thing to note there was a expedition done to the empress a decade or so back to check on the claims of the sinking of the captains actions and how it occurred. They found that the empress of irelands engine room telegraphs were still set at ahead full not at the stop position or close water tight door position (cables controlling them were cut I the collision) which told that the empress was at speed when the collision occurred which also matches with the accounts of the storstad being twisted out of the impact zone

  • @wilshiregreen5746
    @wilshiregreen5746 Год назад +1

    I've heard of the Empress of Ireland, but never knew it sunk. Thought it was scrapped. Learn something new every day.

  • @vilstef6988
    @vilstef6988 Год назад +2

    A video about Captain Kendall would be most welcome. He is an interesting character!
    In the matter of Dr Crippen, Inspector Dew of Scotland Yard crossed the Atlantic on the Laurentic and boarded the Montrose as a pilot to arrest Crippen.

  • @jacqueleroes2773
    @jacqueleroes2773 Год назад +3

    Welcome back bro...missed your uploads...this was awesome

  • @knickd1979
    @knickd1979 Год назад +1

    these stories make me appreciate the safety and comfort of my home office as I watch this on my monitor. what a truly horrifying way to die. cold, sudden darkness, lungs filling up. in many cases, your children being ripped from you to suffer the same horrible demise.
    ugh
    truly horrific
    just awful

  • @erichgolden1812
    @erichgolden1812 Год назад +1

    "The Unsinkable Henry Kendall" has a nice ring to it.

  • @ariahazelwood3842
    @ariahazelwood3842 Год назад +3

    He's back with another banger, lads! At your muster stations!

  • @ayelmao1224
    @ayelmao1224 2 месяца назад +1

    I remember watching an episode of that old show Mystery Hunters as a kid that covered this ship, and its supposed curse that lead to the sinking

  • @redryder8834
    @redryder8834 11 месяцев назад +1

    I sure hope you keep making these videos

  • @trout717oboeplayer9
    @trout717oboeplayer9 Год назад +2

    You should try playing the Italian naval tech tree in war thunder, because that's a maritime horror.

  • @ethribin4188
    @ethribin4188 8 месяцев назад +1

    This one came down to the limits of communication possabilities at the time.
    Add to that, that bows at the time werent designed to cause minimal sub surface damage and focuse damage above the water line, just in case of a collision, and you have a perfect ship kill

  • @df3_legomocs
    @df3_legomocs 7 месяцев назад +2

    Fun fact its even more chilling for me since I live in Rimouski. Beautiful rendition of this horrible tragedy and it’s a shame that this story was overshadowed by the titanic.

    • @emerybonner7973
      @emerybonner7973 7 месяцев назад +1

      Actually, it is because WW1 started a few months later that people have forgotten about this disaster

  • @chrisd9242
    @chrisd9242 Год назад +5

    Excellent work, as always. I know it occurred on a river, rather than at sea, but you would do justice to the General Slocum tragedy.

    • @peterf.229
      @peterf.229 Год назад

      the St Lawrence is a river , just sayin

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 7 месяцев назад

      They didn’t say it wasn’t a river…

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Год назад +7

    Yep a lot of people don't even know about this disaster so I wonder if it will ever get the James Cameron treatment. And maybe a 5-hour soundtrack basically music to sink a boat too.

    • @k3D4rsi554maq
      @k3D4rsi554maq Год назад +4

      The Titanic exists in the public imagination in a way that no other maritime disaster can rival.

  • @kodysparks7535
    @kodysparks7535 2 месяца назад +1

    Love it I know this is a year old so is a long shot for a response of any kind but this is the first video I watched of your's that includes the St lawrence I was born and raised on the American side of the st lawrence in a town of Ogdensburg and we have the Ogdensburg shipping port I didn't know if you had more videos talking of St lawrence wrecks or had or would make a play list of the St lawrence

  • @CJM-rg5rt
    @CJM-rg5rt Год назад +4

    There's something so creepy about hitting a suspended underwater derelict. Alhough highly unlikely, people could've been sucking their last breaths when they saw a brass propeller suddenly cut into the ceiling.

  • @David0lyle
    @David0lyle Год назад +4

    🤔 this is in most instances essentially the opposite of the Titanic. Essentially nearly everything was done correctly. The horrible outcome was largely DESPITE proper procedure and effort.

  • @eeyoreyeen
    @eeyoreyeen Год назад +2

    I live close to to rimouski when inwas little, went to the museum quite a few time in childhood. Empress of ireland has always been a favorite of mine. Im suprised only few know the story of the empress compared to the titanic

  • @106pricey
    @106pricey Год назад +5

    Absolutely love your videos. I am absolutely fascinated with any kind of maritime history. Awesome work. How do I donate? Can you do a couple of your awesome videos on the ships of the great lakes?

  • @archiepodmore3019
    @archiepodmore3019 Год назад +4

    Hes finally back

  • @amiedee1
    @amiedee1 Год назад +5

    Heck yeah!!

  • @tarnishedknight9909
    @tarnishedknight9909 Год назад +1

    Any loss of life , from any cause is always worth remembering
    Excellent video