Simon saying chatGPT waffles on while he effortlessly turns a 15 minute video into over 40 minutes by going off on tangents all the time really is something
We had a long anecdote about car keys and broken windows, ruminations about what the Bible is called, and old CGPT over there is staying ruthlessly on-subject - you’re right, it’s a whole thing, isn’t it? Remarkable.
@@steveharrison76 Ahhh yes the car keys anecdote! Pack rats steal shiny shit and I had a friend's keys get stolen and he baited it, followed it and found his keys!! True story. But I digress, what happened to that bloody goat?!
Well, as a Dead Sea Scrolls scholar this was a blast. Some of my own research was actually mentioned! I first discovered Simon when looking for what were the most watched videos on RUclips about the Scrolls. It was very well written and the best brief non-academic overview of the Scrolls I have come across to date. After that, I was sucked into the Whistlverse. What is amazing about this current video is that it barely scratches the surface of insane theories. Still, I had to roll my eyes a few too many times at some fringe theories being presented as mainstream scholarship. Now to be sure, there are some BIG disagreements between scholars about practically every aspect of the Scrolls. However, no one today takes the theories of Golb (about the Scrolls coming from Jerusalem) seriously. Much of the section about the archeology of Qumran was bungled up. To make it clear, practically everyone agrees that the sect that wrote most of the Scrolls lived at the site (whether that sect should also be identified as the Essenes is still debated). There are exactly only three archeologists that tried to argue that there is no connection between the Scrolls and the site of Qumran. Those arguments have been soundly refuted by other archeologists. All in all this was rather well researched and I congratulate Ilze for sifting through an enormous amount of material for this script and managing to go over many of the main issues in Dead Sea Scrolls research. There were even I few things in here I was not familiar with (like the whole Egypt theory for the Copper Scroll). As for Simon, I can forgive not knowing how to pronounce "Qumran", but can you please pronounce "Josephus" correctly? I don't know why, but the way you mispronounce that name drives me crazy.
The point about Josephus is amusing to me. I had mostly taught myself biblical history in high school because I was of a precocious sort, and read the name as I thought it should be - "JO-zif-us" (like Joseph but with an "us" on the end), and when I started formally studying this era in graduate school, it drove my Hebrew Bible professor absolutely mad. These days, I will admit to pronouncing it closer to Simon than the way a lot of Americans pronounce it. However, the way Simon pronounced Nehemiah and Ecclesiastes had me rolling! I love how you can see behind his eyes as he's thinking "what the hell is this!" 🤣
Actually the book of Esther is a lot of fun. The holiday of Purim is based on the Book of Esther, it's the one book with no mention of God, and it's an action-adventure tale that happens in Persia. The tradition for Purim is that Jewish adults in emulation of Good King Ahasueros, are encouraged to get so drunk they can't tell the difference between Haman (the bad guy) and Mordechai (the good guy.) There was a time a few years ago when Purim coincided with St. Patrick's Day, and the one city in Ireland that had a Jewish mayor? Let's just say a grand time was had by all.
Great video! I have seen the dead sea scrolls in 2000 and it was incredible. As a child I loved the book of Esther as it is set in Susan which is my name. However I wonder if it was excluded due the fact that never mentions God in the entire book.
Get hammered for Haman with hamentashen? And the ones from my local Costco go hard too. Time to stock up Purim sounds awesome. Can I celebrate it if I'm not Jewish?
Man, regardless of the true meaning buried within these ancient pages, how insane is it that we found pieces of 2000 year old paper that we could still freakin read...
I always like to take a moment and step back to look at the whole forest. Yes, all these theories and struggles and things we don't understand. But man. Isn't this amazing? That this artifact lasted for centuries and it's here now for us to study? Cool stuff.
Yet the vast majority of people have no idea what they say, nor do they want to know. These writings are older than Christianity and its bible, yet what is written within completely undercuts the forthcoming religion of Paul, in fact they call him out by name.
@@timothywhite6532 Yes, they were written before Sha'uwl (Paulos' name before he changed it.) God prophesied in Howsha' of Sha'uwl's coming, calls him out by name, and calls him the 'plague of death' for the religion he will found and bring into the world.
Justin (Bon Iver) stated in an interview in 2008: It’s referring to the excavations where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls. When they found them it changed the whole course of Christianity, whether people wanted to know it or not. A lot of people chose to ignore it, a lot of people decided to run with it, and for many people it destroyed their faith, so I think I was just looking at it as a metaphor for whatever happens after that is new shit. In the interview, Justin Vernon mentioned this record was about him going through the breakup, an excavation of himself, digging everything out so he can see what it is and get it to the oxygen where it can burn away and leave.
The finding of the dead sea scrolls helped me to research and find the truth. Now I don't believe in this child horror book. Religion is the cancer of humanity!
@Istandby666 how? The texts they found were ones they already had, except for the ones unique to the essenes and a heavily fragmented copy of the book of giants, which was a known lost text. The Dead Sea Scrolls didn't really change anything in Christianity it did help with translation since there were now translations in Hebrew that predate the rabbinic translations that were mostly medieval or the greek masoretic texts. So unless you were an academic it was sort of a non-factor.
Qumran (Kumran) is indeed mentioned in the lyrics of the song "Re: Stacks" by Bon Iver. Lyrics: "This my excavation and today is Kumran" It was mentioned in an interview that this record was about him going through the breakup, an excavation of himself, digging everything out so he can see what it is and get it to the oxygen where it can burn away and leave. Quote: "It’s referring to the excavations where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls. When they found them it changed the whole course of Christianity, whether people wanted to know it or not. A lot of people chose to ignore it, a lot of people decided to run with it, and for many people it destroyed their faith, so I think I was just looking at it as a metaphor for whatever happens after that is new shit."
If that’s what they think, they overestimated the effects of the Dead Sea Scrolls. I’m not a Christian but I can see they have only a passing effect in Christianity. It was already well known that there were a large number of apocalyptic preachers and communities around at the time
This charming man is living proof that a good script and a British accent can make anyone sound like a scholar, as long as they don't stray from the script.🤣
Right. That's exactly what's going on here. They're usually very well written scripts and then Simon usually ruins them with his woke nonsense improvs. He consistently displays his ignorance on most subjects he covers this way. He would sound far more intelligent and less of a cringe, woke boot licker if he would just stick to the scripts that are prepared for him. Men like simon are living in weird little woke bubbles and it's making them dumber by the day. It's unfortunate. Most people of above average IQ will eventually break out of those bubbles. I expect Simon to one day realize how nonsensical his current world views are. It seems like this debilitating woke mind virus was pumped out intentionally for some reason. It renders victims completely weak, docile and ignorant of what's really happening around them.
Simon: ‘Most of my knowledge about archaeology mostly comes from Jurassic Park.’ Me: I’ve listened to at least a dozen videos of Simon talking about archaeology… somehow Jurassic Park stuck more in his mind… also wouldn’t that be paleontology. It’s a good reminder that Simon’s talent is as a reader and not in remembering facts. Seriously though, he is a top tier reader/narrator.
@@RichardRemer Most dinosaur digs are done on the surface where erosion has revealed a site. Archaeological sites often go through many layers of a tel (a tel is a hill made of multiple destruction layers of an a city/habitation). Geologists use bore hole cores which can go crazy deep.
Hahaha Simon arguing with chatGPT about Bon Iver is making my day. Simon, you’re right! And it’s absolutely hilarious that it thought you were saying, “Come run!” 😂
Chat gpt is a word generator. Not a search engine. It's NEVER, right. It just gets some things right BY ACCIDENT cuz it just happened to sample a correct answer randomly once in a while.
With Simon's recent obsession with chat gpt, I'm starting to think he is nothing more than a beta test for AI. Danny isn't in the basement, he's in the penthouse paying other writers to feed the AI that is Simon.
In the beginning of the video, he did say “miscalous” instead of “miscellaneous” so my money is on him being an AI who even reads the spelling mistakes.
3:57.... Here in the U.S. you probably wouldn't want to break the "little back one". My cousin used to work for a auto glass company and he said that the small windows usually cost more than the larger ones because they have to be specially made and then, usually, shipped to the repair shop from a warehouse (or the factory). The full size windows are the ones that get replaced the most so they're manufactured in bulk and would most likely be stored someplace close by.
Back drivers roll up window is my choice, because it's the one you use the least to look out. If you need to cover it while waiting on replacement. (Same goes for if you have to hang a garment bag in the car... thats the window to block.
5:51 not just that but imagine if all 900 massive jigsaw puzzles basically looked almost identical and you were missing like an average of half of the pieces.
I'm not ChatGPT but I absolutely adore Bon Iver and Re: Stacks is my favourite song, so I think I can bring some light into the question of wtf he means by 'this my excavation and today is Qumran'. It ties in with the lyrics that come right afterwards, which are 'everything that happens is from now on'. The discovery of the scrolls brought forth a monumental shift in basically all abrahamic religions. To tie it back to the metaphor: the excavation is his road to self-discovery after he finds himself heartbroken and alone in the cabin in which he wrote and recorded the For Emma album. It's 'Qumran' because in finding peace within himself, he is changing his future forever and comes to terms with the fact that the past is already written and out of our hands. Hope that helps :)
Took a class on the Dead Sea scrolls in university taught by a wonderful religious scholar Dr James Tabor. The whole community was very interesting. I recommend you check out his youtube channel @jamestaborvideos
One of the coolest exhibits I've seen. Back in early 2000's the dead sea scroll segments were at the chicago field museum. Same time as that gigantic trex skull, Sue.
Simon making fun of the way he used to pronounce "papyrus" and then absolutely butchering the word "Aramaic" is absolute gold 😂😂. Also, "cum-ran" really, Simon? No wonder chatgpt didn't understand 😂
Simon's ADHD ramblings genuinely soothe me and make me feel so much like I'm among company like myself and feel a very comforting belonging here. 😂 His turning anything into at least over a half hour -over an hour literally is exactly how every phone conversation of mine has been going as of late! 💀😭 Guess I really ought to get that checked out by a professional at this point... 😅
Simon, I really appreciate that you tell real life stories. I remember the story about the cars, both the lost keys in the Dead Sea, band the broken window story from a video I watched maybe a year or so ago.
My friend lost his keys in the snow at night, and there was like 6 of us looking for like 2 hours when our pot dealer just happened to be walking by and saw us looking with our phone screens because this was before flashlight/camera phones, so he walks over and pulls out nice fat joint, a literal perfect coner, so we all join in on the impromptu sesh. Anyways as we're all token and having a laugh standing in like 1½ feet of snow shivering, he asked what were doing out here... And we said we were looking Tim's keys, so as the joint is pooched and hes about leave he says jokingly "I'm gonna flick this roach wherever it lands thats where the keys will be" and flicks the roach into a seemingly fresh layer of powder where nobody was looking... And I kid you not, the roach landed literally on the keys... We were awestruck....
Wait a minute 🤚🏻 ease your fears that there won’t be an AI uprising. As in you fear there won’t be an AI uprising. Yeah um I’m 99% sure this is a sentient AI they’re already among us
In America, we usually call it a "cafeteria". "Canteen" is more of a military term, or for a workplace where you live on site (I know many research stations call it a canteen as well)
I love the whistlerverse DTU one of my favourite channels.. as a Bible College student and church going Christian hearing Simon mangle the names of certain books like Nehemiah and Ecclesiastices as well as questioning and going down a mini ChatGP rabbit hole over Esther is Hilarious.. proper skeptic I love it and I love you Simon ❤ from l 🇦🇺
4:05 “because that’s what you’re all here for.” Not really, Simon. We’re also here to find out what kind of digressions you will go on inspired by the episode’s topic. The exact proportions of digressions per topic vary by viewer.
18:37, That reminds me of a trip I went to the Emergency Room years ago. They didn't refer to it as an "E.R." They called it the "E.D." - Emergency Department I asked why and I was told that E.R. was now referring to a separate department entirely, I said "Okay, but going to the Erectile Dysfunction ward is not what I had in mind." the Nurse looked at me and I watched it dawn on his face. He didn't make the connection until now. We both laughed, a few days later I was discharged with a temporary external defibrillator.
It's even worse than that. The Essenes had strict bathroom rules where they could only go on certain days so had to hold it. Then archeologists examined their petrified stools and found tapeworm eggs. So, they had tapeworms.
@@Theggman83 ...Why say people HAD organisms 2k years ago? It is misleading. It ignores the fact that we rely on other organisms to digest food, breathe, farm, etc, etc. The perspective is backASSwards.
Talking about the clear Dead Sea, one vacation we had to Egypt (family's Egyptian) we went to the Mediterranean Sea and it was insane because you could see everything. I kept walking in deeper and the whole time just clear and actually blue! That was decades ago and still blows my mind today
Lol Simons story about the car keys and the rental window smashing had me double checking the video upload date because I’ve heard him give that story near word for word before lol a few months back. 😂
Excellent AD / CE point. Who cares? Who was it bothering? Like Neil Degrasse Tyson said "it was created by religious people hundreds of years ago and it's perfectly accurate. It's their calendar we use. Why change it?" I still use AD because it's so much simpler.
There are historically more accurate calendars than the gregorian calendar, and even if there weren't more accurate previously existing calendars, do you think we couldn't devise one? The reasoning for the continued existence and use of the gregorian calendar is for christians to try and assert their "dominance" over other existing extant faiths. And honestly, how much sense does it make to have a calendar based off of the story of the death of a doomsday cults apocalyptic fear mongering doomsayer.
My college religion professor helped translate the Dead Sea scrolls for a time. He was a stereotypical absent minded professor, but had the most interesting stories!
“Im sorry i know we’ll get back to the dead sea scrolls cause thats what your all here for” Nah im here for Simon Lore and DTU is the best place to find it. Story Time/Tangent Time with Simon is arguably what makes these videos 2-3x entertaining. Dont get me wrong the topic brings me in and is interesting but Simons antics help keep me here. Also in regard to chatgpt and Esther. It gave the generic “monks and religious scholars” answer as its technically true since religious scholars copied the texts through the years. As for the actual Author of Esther there is no confirmed answer but there are theories as to who wrote it, the most common being Mordecai (Esthers cousin), Ezra, or Nehemiah.
Regarding finding treasure that was hidden 2,000 years ago, there's a good chance that it's long gone. Whether reclaimed by the original owners after the scroll was created and stumbled across over the millennia, most of it has likely been found. 2,000 years is a long time, and these areas have been populated pretty much non-stop by various peoples. People always assume any sort of treasure map will lead to treasure and forget how likely it is that the original owner went back for it or someone else found it (without the map). Seems crazy to me.
YES! YES, SIMON! As a goldsmith, Simon’s impressed me. You can’t believe how much people underestimate how big the gap between gold and silver value really is, but Fact Boy called out the interesting discrepancy between than and now immediately. I know Simon knows his economy stuff, but I’m still impressed.
The Dead Sea scrolls would reflect Jewish writing such as the Torah and my Google search indicates they date back to 150 BCE. I believe that we have found older items from the Jewish culture that are unrelated to religious stuff that are older than this but as far as reflecting the religion this is the oldest written account. Additionally and really fascinating is that people have been working very hard on trying to decipher and peace together the broken fragments and such. In some cases the University of Kentucky is using technology to try to read what they say without opening them which would destroy them. If I recall correctly a particular challenge about using technology to read an unfolded document such as these is that I don't think they used lead or something like that so they have to come up with new techniques I'm not sure where they are in the process but I'm sure several newer documents from the Dead Sea scroll collection have been made available since the work has started I think I might be confusing some of the details because they're also working on scrolls and such found at Pompeii that are badly burned and they're trying to read those too. It might be the Pompeii documents that don't have a metal in the ink that's making it difficult
Holy crap. I've never been this quick. This is my third time asking for a video on Thylacines or Tasmanian Tigers and their possibly not being extinct. It's unlikely, but an interesting topic with some cool evidence including but not limited to security footage and DNA evidence.
No we still like doing puzzles in our spare time, it's more relaxing when you know it's gonna fit together and there is an answer! And usually normal pussle pieces doesnt break from you looking too hard at them 😝 that being said, when it's jigsaw time at work, it's both the best and the most frustrating!
I would be so happy if I could sit quietly and put stuff together like that. I wanted to go into paleontology since I was kid but nobody had online degrees and I can't go to a campus for several reasons. I looked into anthropology as well, as similar situation. I get why I envy people who can sit there and study awesome stuff like historical bits. I'm glad you enjoy your work!
I had a guy who went to my church back home and at his theological library he had a fragment of the Dead Sea Scrolls. It was super cool to go and look at it
The lyrics Simon is talking about are literally in the opening line of the exact song he thought they were. The opening lyrics of ‘re: stacks’ are: *“This my excavation and today is kumran“* ChatGPT clearly exposed as pretty weak AI
Hey, Simon! Try the podcast Data Over Dogma for a linguistic and scholarly analysis of the Bible by a believer with a PhD in such things and an atheist who grew up a Morman.
The room where students eat in North America is called a cafeteria or, in some schools where they designed the room to double as an auditorium, a cafetorium. As a Canadian, the only context where I've heard "canteen" used that way is military movies/books.
In the UK, in days long past, large companies with a large workforce would have Staff Canteens for the serving of hot beverages and hot food. Perhaps it was just a British thing?
You know Simon I love the way you tell chat to shut up. Oddly I have asked my ChatGPT. To respond as if they were you. With all your tangents and everything. Makes me feel like I’m talking to you.
I like that there is a clear text when you use AI generated images. Some places don't mark them in any way, and then it's weird and confusing to look at.
The goat, having caused a great distraction by forging the scrolls, managed to develop a flying machine and flew off into the sunset whilst everyone was busy trying to unearth all the scrolls ...
Hey Simon, I’ve had a couple strong ones but I hope you see this. I want to say thank you for all this entertainment/content. I don’t really comment on anything but I just wanted to share appreciation because your videos are such a nice break from life or great entertainment while I’m fixing other people’s garbage all day. I know this is your living but thank you sir
The odd rental thing does happen. A friend rented a Harley in Reno, NV. He got pulled over for expired tags, then cuffed when the paper work not only stated the bike was the wrong color, but also the completely wrong model and year. The rental company showed up in a panic, with the RIGHT paperwork, correct plates with current tags. Needless to say, his rental was free and they let him keep the gear he had rented too. Helmet, gloves, jacket, vest and chaps for free. The cops were pissed at the rental place, my friend was let go and we went to a bar and downed a few cold ones after that. Thankfully they didn’t check his luggage since he’s a life long stoner and he had 2 weeks worth of weed in the bikes trunk.
Simon saying chatGPT waffles on while he effortlessly turns a 15 minute video into over 40 minutes by going off on tangents all the time really is something
We had a long anecdote about car keys and broken windows, ruminations about what the Bible is called, and old CGPT over there is staying ruthlessly on-subject - you’re right, it’s a whole thing, isn’t it? Remarkable.
Do not slander the great Simon....his wrath will drown you in the whistles of your sorrows.😅
@@steveharrison76
Ahhh yes the car keys anecdote!
Pack rats steal shiny shit and I had a friend's keys get stolen and he baited it, followed it and found his keys!! True story.
But I digress, what happened to that bloody goat?!
Don’t forget Queen Esther back when mostly dudes did things. 🤷♀️🤦♀️
What app is he using?
Well, as a Dead Sea Scrolls scholar this was a blast. Some of my own research was actually mentioned!
I first discovered Simon when looking for what were the most watched videos on RUclips about the Scrolls. It was very well written and the best brief non-academic overview of the Scrolls I have come across to date. After that, I was sucked into the Whistlverse.
What is amazing about this current video is that it barely scratches the surface of insane theories. Still, I had to roll my eyes a few too many times at some fringe theories being presented as mainstream scholarship. Now to be sure, there are some BIG disagreements between scholars about practically every aspect of the Scrolls. However, no one today takes the theories of Golb (about the Scrolls coming from Jerusalem) seriously.
Much of the section about the archeology of Qumran was bungled up. To make it clear, practically everyone agrees that the sect that wrote most of the Scrolls lived at the site (whether that sect should also be identified as the Essenes is still debated). There are exactly only three archeologists that tried to argue that there is no connection between the Scrolls and the site of Qumran. Those arguments have been soundly refuted by other archeologists.
All in all this was rather well researched and I congratulate Ilze for sifting through an enormous amount of material for this script and managing to go over many of the main issues in Dead Sea Scrolls research. There were even I few things in here I was not familiar with (like the whole Egypt theory for the Copper Scroll).
As for Simon, I can forgive not knowing how to pronounce "Qumran", but can you please pronounce "Josephus" correctly? I don't know why, but the way you mispronounce that name drives me crazy.
I think it’s more likely then not they scrolls were written by the essenes or at least a group connected to them
The point about Josephus is amusing to me. I had mostly taught myself biblical history in high school because I was of a precocious sort, and read the name as I thought it should be - "JO-zif-us" (like Joseph but with an "us" on the end), and when I started formally studying this era in graduate school, it drove my Hebrew Bible professor absolutely mad. These days, I will admit to pronouncing it closer to Simon than the way a lot of Americans pronounce it.
However, the way Simon pronounced Nehemiah and Ecclesiastes had me rolling! I love how you can see behind his eyes as he's thinking "what the hell is this!" 🤣
Stay here in the Whistlerverse long enough and you will also start mispronouncing random words.
This isn't the only video in which Simon mispronounced 'Josephus'... 🙄🤦🏻
Thank you for your work!
Actually the book of Esther is a lot of fun. The holiday of Purim is based on the Book of Esther, it's the one book with no mention of God, and it's an action-adventure tale that happens in Persia. The tradition for Purim is that Jewish adults in emulation of Good King Ahasueros, are encouraged to get so drunk they can't tell the difference between Haman (the bad guy) and Mordechai (the good guy.) There was a time a few years ago when Purim coincided with St. Patrick's Day, and the one city in Ireland that had a Jewish mayor? Let's just say a grand time was had by all.
OMG... Purim and St. Patrick's Day at the same time in Ireland???? Wow! I bet that was a hoot and a half, and no one remembers anything. Good times!
Look into the code in Esther, direct connection from Haman to another madman who tried to exterminate my people
Great video! I have seen the dead sea scrolls in 2000 and it was incredible. As a child I loved the book of Esther as it is set in Susan which is my name. However I wonder if it was excluded due the fact that never mentions God in the entire book.
Jews are allowed in Ireland?!😮. One would never know it, going on their INSANE 15 out of 10 level of government sanctioned anti semitism.
Get hammered for Haman with hamentashen? And the ones from my local Costco go hard too. Time to stock up Purim sounds awesome. Can I celebrate it if I'm not Jewish?
Man, regardless of the true meaning buried within these ancient pages, how insane is it that we found pieces of 2000 year old paper that we could still freakin read...
I always like to take a moment and step back to look at the whole forest. Yes, all these theories and struggles and things we don't understand. But man. Isn't this amazing? That this artifact lasted for centuries and it's here now for us to study? Cool stuff.
Yet the vast majority of people have no idea what they say, nor do they want to know. These writings are older than Christianity and its bible, yet what is written within completely undercuts the forthcoming religion of Paul, in fact they call him out by name.
@@giantfactory ... Where do they call out Paul? I think they were all written long before his time.
@@timothywhite6532 Yes, they were written before Sha'uwl (Paulos' name before he changed it.) God prophesied in Howsha' of Sha'uwl's coming, calls him out by name, and calls him the 'plague of death' for the religion he will found and bring into the world.
The Bible's Expansion Pack? OMG, I swear this is Simon's favorite channel. 😂😂😂
Clearly you don't Blaze
I bet it's over priced and unfinished 😤
@@HoundMonkeySimon barely blazes. Loss of script slapping and pacing has left it much diminished.
Made me laugh out loud when he said that!
@@kieranklein2527and recently debunked
Dude, Simon’s the most productive person on RUclips
I am convinced that Simon's writers have a group chat where they place bets on how many tangents they can get Simon to go on.
It's a basement competition for the forbidden mushrooms
It's a basement conspiracy! Lol.
SIMON IS A DIMWIT !!
Simon, you should do an episode about Flavius Josephus. He's one of the most fascinating people who ever lived.
Justin (Bon Iver) stated in an interview in 2008:
It’s referring to the excavations where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls. When they found them it changed the whole course of Christianity, whether people wanted to know it or not. A lot of people chose to ignore it, a lot of people decided to run with it, and for many people it destroyed their faith, so I think I was just looking at it as a metaphor for whatever happens after that is new shit.
In the interview, Justin Vernon mentioned this record was about him going through the breakup, an excavation of himself, digging everything out so he can see what it is and get it to the oxygen where it can burn away and leave.
The finding of the dead sea scrolls helped me to research and find the truth.
Now I don't believe in this child horror book.
Religion is the cancer of humanity!
The dead sea scrolls helped me to find the truth.
Now I don't believe in that child horror story.
Religion is the cancer of humanity!
😊
@Istandby666 how? The texts they found were ones they already had, except for the ones unique to the essenes and a heavily fragmented copy of the book of giants, which was a known lost text.
The Dead Sea Scrolls didn't really change anything in Christianity it did help with translation since there were now translations in Hebrew that predate the rabbinic translations that were mostly medieval or the greek masoretic texts. So unless you were an academic it was sort of a non-factor.
I love how Simon is just casually having a chat with chat GPT in the middle of all of this
Qumran (Kumran) is indeed mentioned in the lyrics of the song "Re: Stacks" by Bon Iver.
Lyrics:
"This my excavation and today is Kumran"
It was mentioned in an interview that this record was about him going through the breakup, an excavation of himself, digging everything out so he can see what it is and get it to the oxygen where it can burn away and leave.
Quote:
"It’s referring to the excavations where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls. When they found them it changed the whole course of Christianity, whether people wanted to know it or not. A lot of people chose to ignore it, a lot of people decided to run with it, and for many people it destroyed their faith, so I think I was just looking at it as a metaphor for whatever happens after that is new shit."
If that’s what they think, they overestimated the effects of the Dead Sea Scrolls. I’m not a Christian but I can see they have only a passing effect in Christianity. It was already well known that there were a large number of apocalyptic preachers and communities around at the time
Well, as two particular lawyers will tell you, chatgpt isn't perfect.
@@Sammael251 and i with that I don't get why people rely on it and take what it says as factual.
Simon's rant about the car key is better than the story today lol I was so invested like... What did you guys get into next😂
Simon you can call your basement a scriptorium. I'm sure that will make Danny and Kevin feel very sophisticated.
Scriptorium
Cryptorium
It's in the basement....lol
Danny's autobiography; from Rotherham to scriptorium.
Nope nope nope nope nope, the basement will be referred to as the well of scripts as Simon's office will now be referred to as the scriptorium...
Simon going off on chatGPT for failing him had me rolling. 😂 Good episode!
This charming man is living proof that a good script and a British accent can make anyone sound like a scholar, as long as they don't stray from the script.🤣
I think that every video - he’s great when he’s reading the words someone else wrote for him, other than the mistakes & mispronunciations 😂
Right. That's exactly what's going on here. They're usually very well written scripts and then Simon usually ruins them with his woke nonsense improvs. He consistently displays his ignorance on most subjects he covers this way. He would sound far more intelligent and less of a cringe, woke boot licker if he would just stick to the scripts that are prepared for him. Men like simon are living in weird little woke bubbles and it's making them dumber by the day. It's unfortunate. Most people of above average IQ will eventually break out of those bubbles. I expect Simon to one day realize how nonsensical his current world views are. It seems like this debilitating woke mind virus was pumped out intentionally for some reason. It renders victims completely weak, docile and ignorant of what's really happening around them.
Wtf?@@dilldowschwagginz2674
@@TheUltimateWriterNZWouldnt be a true Whistler video without Simon butchering every non-English pronounciation - and some English too 🤣🤣
very true 😇@@dfuher968
Simon: ‘Most of my knowledge about archaeology mostly comes from Jurassic Park.’
Me: I’ve listened to at least a dozen videos of Simon talking about archaeology… somehow Jurassic Park stuck more in his mind… also wouldn’t that be paleontology.
It’s a good reminder that Simon’s talent is as a reader and not in remembering facts. Seriously though, he is a top tier reader/narrator.
@@RichardRemer Most dinosaur digs are done on the surface where erosion has revealed a site. Archaeological sites often go through many layers of a tel (a tel is a hill made of multiple destruction layers of an a city/habitation). Geologists use bore hole cores which can go crazy deep.
Hahaha Simon arguing with chatGPT about Bon Iver is making my day. Simon, you’re right! And it’s absolutely hilarious that it thought you were saying, “Come run!” 😂
Chat gpt is a word generator. Not a search engine. It's NEVER, right. It just gets some things right BY ACCIDENT cuz it just happened to sample a correct answer randomly once in a while.
A+ video!
Excellent writing and analysis!
It's really interesting talking about the mystery around archaeological finds like that!
With Simon's recent obsession with chat gpt, I'm starting to think he is nothing more than a beta test for AI. Danny isn't in the basement, he's in the penthouse paying other writers to feed the AI that is Simon.
So you're saying that Simon is in current gen Max Headroom?
It would make so much sense for Simon to be an AI. I don't think any human would choose to run 15 individual channels
In the beginning of the video, he did say “miscalous” instead of “miscellaneous” so my money is on him being an AI who even reads the spelling mistakes.
You mean "ai"? Cuz that's is name, but it's not what it is. It's a 40 year old comparative algorithm some d bag NAMED ai. Its not sentient.
@@phillipduvall8638he's a voice actor he doesn't run ANY channels.
Anyone else cheerfully waiting for Simon to remember or realize that sometimes, ChatGPT just makes stuff up?
Now if he would just pronounce it coom-ron, instead of cum room, he would sound smarter.
At 9:15 Simon says in reference to ChatGPT "and maybe its made up."
4:55 - Chapter 1 - What are the dead sea scrolls ?
11:50 - Chapter 2 - Discovery of the scrolls
17:20 - Chapter 3 - Qumran
22:40 - Chapter 4 - Who wrote the dead sea scrolls ?
23:15 - Chapter 4.1 - The essenes
27:20 - Chapter 4.2 - Jerusalem origin theory
30:05 - Chapter 5 - A treasure map in copper
43:25 - Chapter 6 - Conspiracies !
28:35 Simon finds out how Qumran is supposed to be pronounced
Thank you. This should be mandatory for all episodes.
😅😅😅 @@danhicks1319
Ernie Wise: Do you have the scrolls?
Eric Morecambe: No, it's just the way I walk!
“I have to use Google like a peasant.” That may be the funniest thing I’ve ever heard Fact boi say.
3:57.... Here in the U.S. you probably wouldn't want to break the "little back one". My cousin used to work for a auto glass company and he said that the small windows usually cost more than the larger ones because they have to be specially made and then, usually, shipped to the repair shop from a warehouse (or the factory). The full size windows are the ones that get replaced the most so they're manufactured in bulk and would most likely be stored someplace close by.
Back drivers roll up window is my choice, because it's the one you use the least to look out. If you need to cover it while waiting on replacement. (Same goes for if you have to hang a garment bag in the car... thats the window to block.
5:51 not just that but imagine if all 900 massive jigsaw puzzles basically looked almost identical and you were missing like an average of half of the pieces.
I'm not ChatGPT but I absolutely adore Bon Iver and Re: Stacks is my favourite song, so I think I can bring some light into the question of wtf he means by 'this my excavation and today is Qumran'. It ties in with the lyrics that come right afterwards, which are 'everything that happens is from now on'. The discovery of the scrolls brought forth a monumental shift in basically all abrahamic religions. To tie it back to the metaphor: the excavation is his road to self-discovery after he finds himself heartbroken and alone in the cabin in which he wrote and recorded the For Emma album. It's 'Qumran' because in finding peace within himself, he is changing his future forever and comes to terms with the fact that the past is already written and out of our hands. Hope that helps :)
I know it was sarcasm, but that scroll on how the community organized itself legitimately sounds like a fascinating read.
Yeah, Simon just dismissing what would literally be a historian's dream.
How regular people lived there lives is one of the MOST interesting things about History
Took a class on the Dead Sea scrolls in university taught by a wonderful religious scholar Dr James Tabor. The whole community was very interesting. I recommend you check out his youtube channel @jamestaborvideos
One of the coolest exhibits I've seen. Back in early 2000's the dead sea scroll segments were at the chicago field museum. Same time as that gigantic trex skull, Sue.
Simon making fun of the way he used to pronounce "papyrus" and then absolutely butchering the word "Aramaic" is absolute gold 😂😂. Also, "cum-ran" really, Simon? No wonder chatgpt didn't understand 😂
And he AND ChatGPT both mispronouncing Bon Iver 🥲 (although that one is pretty understandable I guess haha)
Don’t forget the misclus section in the paper
@@bullie86I laughed out loud at "misclus"
I liked the part where he asked how to pronounce it, then spent the rest of the video saying it his own way regardless.
Simon’s wife will be demanding to know who “Ron” is😂
Simon waffling at ChatGPT and somehow it understanding him is insane.
He must talk to it a lot
It's hilarious!
Did Simon just pronounce *”miscellaneous”* like the word was “Miss-kill-us Items For Sale” 😂
@12:38
The Moses/Akhenaten connection is a whole can of worms that deserves its own Decoding the Unknown video!
Simon's ADHD ramblings genuinely soothe me and make me feel so much like I'm among company like myself and feel a very comforting belonging here. 😂
His turning anything into at least over a half hour -over an hour literally is exactly how every phone conversation of mine has been going as of late! 💀😭
Guess I really ought to get that checked out by a professional at this point... 😅
A new CasCrim and a new DTU on the same day, the Whistlerverse just out here blessing us 🙏🏻
Simon, I really appreciate that you tell real life stories. I remember the story about the cars, both the lost keys in the Dead Sea, band the broken window story from a video I watched maybe a year or so ago.
My friend lost his keys in the snow at night, and there was like 6 of us looking for like 2 hours when our pot dealer just happened to be walking by and saw us looking with our phone screens because this was before flashlight/camera phones, so he walks over and pulls out nice fat joint, a literal perfect coner, so we all join in on the impromptu sesh. Anyways as we're all token and having a laugh standing in like 1½ feet of snow shivering, he asked what were doing out here... And we said we were looking Tim's keys, so as the joint is pooched and hes about leave he says jokingly "I'm gonna flick this roach wherever it lands thats where the keys will be" and flicks the roach into a seemingly fresh layer of powder where nobody was looking... And I kid you not, the roach landed literally on the keys... We were awestruck....
I don't see how this comment is relevant but the story is entertaining. A+ for a good story
@@indicasun I was tangentially inspired Simon's tangent about losing Keys in the Dead Sea.... "Simon Whistler and The Lost Dead Sea Keys"
I love coincidences like that.
So your saying your dealer was a fricken wizard then yeah?
Love it 😂
Damn!!!! Good smoke.
There's so much in this video that I have watched three times! 💓💓💓
Seeing the interaction between whistle boy and chat GPT eases my fears that there won't be an AI uprising.
Ambiguous
Ambiance
Wait a minute 🤚🏻 ease your fears that there won’t be an AI uprising. As in you fear there won’t be an AI uprising. Yeah um I’m 99% sure this is a sentient AI they’re already among us
Nuance
@@Toxic8arbarian...You just argued with a bot.
I have a degree in Anthropology/Archaeology and it is a lot of fun. The study of human history and the many different cultures is very interesting.
In America, we usually call it a "cafeteria". "Canteen" is more of a military term, or for a workplace where you live on site (I know many research stations call it a canteen as well)
When I was in the military, it was the chow hall. A canteen was a watering hole more commonly called a pub.
we called it the "lunch" room
Yeah, at school it was a cafeteria. At summer camp, there was canteen (where we could buy snacks).
Its also what the commissary gets called in prison.
I love the whistlerverse DTU one of my favourite channels.. as a Bible College student and church going Christian hearing Simon mangle the names of certain books like Nehemiah and Ecclesiastices as well as questioning and going down a mini ChatGP rabbit hole over Esther is Hilarious.. proper skeptic I love it and I love you Simon ❤ from l 🇦🇺
Simon and chat gpt.
The dynamic duo.
Factboi and factbot
Simon singing had me cracking up and the rental car stories.
4:05 “because that’s what you’re all here for.” Not really, Simon. We’re also here to find out what kind of digressions you will go on inspired by the episode’s topic. The exact proportions of digressions per topic vary by viewer.
18:37, That reminds me of a trip I went to the Emergency Room years ago.
They didn't refer to it as an "E.R."
They called it the "E.D." - Emergency Department
I asked why and I was told that E.R. was now referring to a separate department entirely, I said "Okay, but going to the Erectile Dysfunction ward is not what I had in mind." the Nurse looked at me and I watched it dawn on his face. He didn't make the connection until now.
We both laughed, a few days later I was discharged with a temporary external defibrillator.
Simon going off on tangents makes all this even better.
It's even worse than that. The Essenes had strict bathroom rules where they could only go on certain days so had to hold it. Then archeologists examined their petrified stools and found tapeworm eggs. So, they had tapeworms.
This is crazy, I recognize u from ancient Egypt and the Bible’s live streams haha 😂
Most people had parasites 2000 years ago, mate. Absolutely nothing unusual about worms in 2000 yo poo.
@@Theggman83...If you think you are a lone organism Today, you are Sadly mistaken.
Ask anyone from Hunan to Kiev.
@@truthsRsung yeah, ok.. what's that have to do with what I said?
@@Theggman83 ...Why say people HAD organisms 2k years ago?
It is misleading.
It ignores the fact that we rely on other organisms to digest food, breathe, farm, etc, etc.
The perspective is backASSwards.
The tale of the Lost Key was worth the hole video 🤣 keep the stories comin!!
6:15 Simon: Talks about how he used to mispronounce papyrus
6:30 Simon a few seconds later: Mispronounces Aramaic
9:36 And then Ne-he-miah...
Another amazing video!! 👏 Best edits I've seen! Expansion pack 😂😂😂 10/10
We need a story time with Simon channel.
With puppets on his hands, while he does a silly voice for each character.
I’d watch and subscribe to that for sure! I love Simon’s waffling 😂
Listening to Simon try to pronounce words he's never seen or heard before is one of the most entertaining parts of his videos. 😂
Talking about the clear Dead Sea, one vacation we had to Egypt (family's Egyptian) we went to the Mediterranean Sea and it was insane because you could see everything. I kept walking in deeper and the whole time just clear and actually blue! That was decades ago and still blows my mind today
Simons new channel will just be him having conversations with chat gpt and you know what, i'd be in.
Can't wait for the next Biblical DLC to drop. I hear its gunna be epic.
I want a Simon series where it’s just an hour of Simon asking ChatGPT rediculous questions.
Fun Fact: stray scraps of any paper-like product was used for kindling. It is unknown how much of the Nag Hammadi Library was burned
Lol Simons story about the car keys and the rental window smashing had me double checking the video upload date because I’ve heard him give that story near word for word before lol a few months back. 😂
Excellent AD / CE point. Who cares? Who was it bothering? Like Neil Degrasse Tyson said "it was created by religious people hundreds of years ago and it's perfectly accurate. It's their calendar we use. Why change it?" I still use AD because it's so much simpler.
Most of the world's population. Imagine basing the year off of a blatant lie.
People who take themselves too seriously get REALLY upset when anyone mentions religion.
@@gomahklawm4446what's your issue with Julius Ceasar? Damn.
The nitpicky thing that bugs me the most about BC/AD is that one phrase is in English and one is in Latin. Why?!?!?!!!!
There are historically more accurate calendars than the gregorian calendar, and even if there weren't more accurate previously existing calendars, do you think we couldn't devise one? The reasoning for the continued existence and use of the gregorian calendar is for christians to try and assert their "dominance" over other existing extant faiths. And honestly, how much sense does it make to have a calendar based off of the story of the death of a doomsday cults apocalyptic fear mongering doomsayer.
“ The Bible’s expansion pack” I just laughed way too hard 😂
Simon: "Yo, ChatGPT...."
ChatGPT: "sigh, this guy again...." 😅
My college religion professor helped translate the Dead Sea scrolls for a time. He was a stereotypical absent minded professor, but had the most interesting stories!
There is nothing better than a Simon rant lol. It makes me smile 😊
“Im sorry i know we’ll get back to the dead sea scrolls cause thats what your all here for”
Nah im here for Simon Lore and DTU is the best place to find it. Story Time/Tangent Time with Simon is arguably what makes these videos 2-3x entertaining. Dont get me wrong the topic brings me in and is interesting but Simons antics help keep me here.
Also in regard to chatgpt and Esther. It gave the generic “monks and religious scholars” answer as its technically true since religious scholars copied the texts through the years. As for the actual Author of Esther there is no confirmed answer but there are theories as to who wrote it, the most common being Mordecai (Esthers cousin), Ezra, or Nehemiah.
Regarding finding treasure that was hidden 2,000 years ago, there's a good chance that it's long gone. Whether reclaimed by the original owners after the scroll was created and stumbled across over the millennia, most of it has likely been found. 2,000 years is a long time, and these areas have been populated pretty much non-stop by various peoples. People always assume any sort of treasure map will lead to treasure and forget how likely it is that the original owner went back for it or someone else found it (without the map). Seems crazy to me.
I would totally watch a RUclips channel of Simon just talking to Chat GPT for an hour about different topics 😂
YES! YES, SIMON!
As a goldsmith, Simon’s impressed me. You can’t believe how much people underestimate how big the gap between gold and silver value really is, but Fact Boy called out the interesting discrepancy between than and now immediately.
I know Simon knows his economy stuff, but I’m still impressed.
I kept hoping that all of Simon's trouble with Qumran would lead to Karma Chameleon 😂😂😂
Not to self, NEVER get in a rental vehicle with Simon's friend!!
Just ensure that YOU are the Key Master.
Or Simon. 😜
When you said I have to use Google like a peasant. I was taking a drink and it shot out my nose.😂
Wow, that key story is pretty incredible; I'm shocked you actually found it _and_ it worked! 😃
The Dead Sea scrolls would reflect Jewish writing such as the Torah and my Google search indicates they date back to 150 BCE. I believe that we have found older items from the Jewish culture that are unrelated to religious stuff that are older than this but as far as reflecting the religion this is the oldest written account.
Additionally and really fascinating is that people have been working very hard on trying to decipher and peace together the broken fragments and such.
In some cases the University of Kentucky is using technology to try to read what they say without opening them which would destroy them.
If I recall correctly a particular challenge about using technology to read an unfolded document such as these is that I don't think they used lead or something like that so they have to come up with new techniques
I'm not sure where they are in the process but I'm sure several newer documents from the Dead Sea scroll collection have been made available since the work has started
I think I might be confusing some of the details because they're also working on scrolls and such found at Pompeii that are badly burned and they're trying to read those too. It might be the Pompeii documents that don't have a metal in the ink that's making it difficult
Holy crap. I've never been this quick. This is my third time asking for a video on Thylacines or Tasmanian Tigers and their possibly not being extinct. It's unlikely, but an interesting topic with some cool evidence including but not limited to security footage and DNA evidence.
I had missed Simon hurling abuse at Siri so much it never occurred to me he’d turn on Chat GPT, too 😭😂
Dude, side questing like a true adhd legend
I like this side of Simon
No we still like doing puzzles in our spare time, it's more relaxing when you know it's gonna fit together and there is an answer!
And usually normal pussle pieces doesnt break from you looking too hard at them 😝 that being said, when it's jigsaw time at work, it's both the best and the most frustrating!
I would be so happy if I could sit quietly and put stuff together like that. I wanted to go into paleontology since I was kid but nobody had online degrees and I can't go to a campus for several reasons. I looked into anthropology as well, as similar situation. I get why I envy people who can sit there and study awesome stuff like historical bits. I'm glad you enjoy your work!
Honestly, fuck the dead sea scrolls, I want a whole video of just Simon's tangents of rent-a-car stories and whatnot lmao
I had a guy who went to my church back home and at his theological library he had a fragment of the Dead Sea Scrolls. It was super cool to go and look at it
That guy also has a jar from Qumran as well in the library
That lost key in the dead sea story felt like an akward Robot trying to pass as human, having a human experience.
I know I'm far too deep in the Whistlerverse because I remember every beat of that story about losing the rental car keys in the dead sea 😂
The lyrics Simon is talking about are literally in the opening line of the exact song he thought they were. The opening lyrics of ‘re: stacks’ are:
*“This my excavation and today is kumran“*
ChatGPT clearly exposed as pretty weak AI
I love the chat gpt conversations as much as I like the Office Chair's monologue 😂 I'm here for all of it!
I would love to hear more about what that scroll said about how their society worked!
Simons should call his basement "The Scriptorium", it sounds better than Danny's dungeon/laundry room.
Salazar Slytherin has one of those and we all know how dangerous that was...
Hey, Simon! Try the podcast Data Over Dogma for a linguistic and scholarly analysis of the Bible by a believer with a PhD in such things and an atheist who grew up a Morman.
29:29 I have to use Google like a peasant
That killed me😂
That key story could have its own video, wow!
The room where students eat in North America is called a cafeteria or, in some schools where they designed the room to double as an auditorium, a cafetorium. As a Canadian, the only context where I've heard "canteen" used that way is military movies/books.
In the UK, in days long past, large companies with a large workforce would have Staff Canteens for the serving of hot beverages and hot food. Perhaps it was just a British thing?
You know Simon I love the way you tell chat to shut up. Oddly I have asked my ChatGPT. To respond as if they were you. With all your tangents and everything. Makes me feel like I’m talking to you.
The next time Simon says "my mate and I" I'm totally gonna think he's talking Chat gpt.
this is perfect for post 2am listening
I like that there is a clear text when you use AI generated images. Some places don't mark them in any way, and then it's weird and confusing to look at.
I agree, but why are they using AI generated images at all in this case?
Simon saved the day!🦸🏾♀️
The goat, having caused a great distraction by forging the scrolls, managed to develop a flying machine and flew off into the sunset whilst everyone was busy trying to unearth all the scrolls ...
Hey Simon, I’ve had a couple strong ones but I hope you see this. I want to say thank you for all this entertainment/content.
I don’t really comment on anything but I just wanted to share appreciation because your videos are such a nice break from life or great entertainment while I’m fixing other people’s garbage all day.
I know this is your living but thank you sir
42:05 I just KNOW you're tapping your leg under the table like a maniac, lol.
This can't be Simon's first video on the dead sea scrolls, can it?
Maybe this week…😂
we've definitely heard the car keys aside before...
The odd rental thing does happen. A friend rented a Harley in Reno, NV. He got pulled over for expired tags, then cuffed when the paper work not only stated the bike was the wrong color, but also the completely wrong model and year.
The rental company showed up in a panic, with the RIGHT paperwork, correct plates with current tags. Needless to say, his rental was free and they let him keep the gear he had rented too. Helmet, gloves, jacket, vest and chaps for free. The cops were pissed at the rental place, my friend was let go and we went to a bar and downed a few cold ones after that. Thankfully they didn’t check his luggage since he’s a life long stoner and he had 2 weeks worth of weed in the bikes trunk.
Simon talking about his rental car adventures is just comedic