You are free will. That’s what you are. If everything is determined, it is determined by a series of causation, however you are not a series of causation, you are a distinct entity that is not a causal chain.
Whats the tipping point from choosing to get out of bed or let it pass. ;) I choose, therefor I am....? There is another thing -- the Intent. Per, Don Juan Mateo and Carlos Casteneda. And if extrapolated further, one could add that the future universe could be influencing the choose and/or other entities.
Current physics says indivisible stuff like our subatomic structure is not fundamental and divisible stuff like our atomic structure is fundamental. Current physics is laughably incoherent.
“If you break through this sense of having free will”…. Without free will whether you don’t or do breakthrough is not your choice. His statement is self refuting.
@@bsan7919 did you really just say if your choices are inevitable, you cannot choose? Buddy I have to admit that’s a big brain comment. Without free will, we would still make choices because we do make choices. You think this guy doesnt know that as self evident? The ones who choose to breakthrough would not have made their choice freely.
@@Bravetrain13 I don’t think you understand. Of course you “choose”, but it’s not a free choice, a choice in which you decide given all of the arguments for and against your decision. If your every thought, emotion, action, evaluation of evidence is a product of the laws of physics. He’s saying “if” as though you could choose to break through… but you can’t, because you’re just forced into whatever it is you “choose”.
"Free" will... I can choose to think about it -or I can choose not to. Seems like a choice I made on my own. But in the grand scheme of things? Like.. sometimes you're "meant" to be somewhere at some time.. aka "destiny".. that's the only argument about "free will" I'm open to entertaining
@@OG-Jakey😂😂 because u decide to go somewhere and it end up being benefic to you that's Destiny but u made the choice to go even if somebody told you to go u could have said no
I believe your true free will is at the spiritual level. In the mind you can unconsciously accept or reject information but consciously you can override your reflexive reaction or go with it, both however will align to your spiritual state.
Retrocausation is supported by autonomic responses to stress inducing visual stimuli also occurring before a computer generates a random number to determine the slide (either stressful or peaceful).
I've noticed that when dualities are disputed, they are both true but we think only one can be true. This is 3-d thinking. But if we and reality is multidimensional, thinking only one can be true is fallacious.
Only thing I don't dispute is that we live in a dualistic universe, and that at the universe level both sides are necessary. However at our level I prefer to focus on the positive rather than the negative.
Your mind is the map, your heart the compass. You need both to find your way. But even if the arrow is pointing you straight into the darkest swamp, you must traverse it, regardless of the dangers lurking therein.
This only works if you assume consciousness is an emergant property of a materialistic universe. If we consider that consciousness is nonlocal, as recent studies show, then free will now can reside in non-local consciousness as the controller for a non-free will materialistic body.
Interesting. I’m curious as to how these time presents come back from the future. Like what kind of technology would verify his assertions. Freedom of choice wants freedom from choice according the sage DEVO.
@@BarackObamaJedi Freedom is a word and words mean different things to different people. Thus freedom is a concept and does not exist within itself objectively, it's a metaphysical construct and thus open to interpretation.
Free Will is a misnomer. What does it mean to be free? What is the will? By my definition, “free will” means that you have the freedom to do whatever you will. So no human being has free will, only God can have free will. And furthermore we are imprisoned by the circumstances of our lives from cradle to grave.
You think you're a unique butterfly, as distinct as any fingerprint, but in reality, Arnie has more options avaliable to him, in The Terminator when he chooses "Fuq you, a**hole" 2:49 - Is Retro causation the description of what we see in the double slit experiment? If it is, I'd not attribute this to the absence of free will, as again, this would include the collapsing wave function. The measurement is what give the result the appearance it has, now. Maybe that's a stupid connection, I don't know if Retro Causation describes that effect.
When I have several things to do I visually map out my route and then that "activates" everything to fall in place for me. If I'm traveling I visualize a red carpet in front of me. Where Free Will gets a kink is when you think you can inject your will over another. You can strong arm them...or you can pick a weak person but that energy eventually implodes.
You're accepting a paradigm that doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. It took me a while to realize that while I didn't seem to know what was going on in my unconscious, my unconscious knew everything that was going on in my conscious mind, so the perceived separation only goes one way, so maybe the distinction isn't real at all. I only have one mind. There is only one person inside of me, and it is that person who controls all of my voluntary muscles. The only logical conclusion is that I am the one generating all purposeful behaviors, and when free of external coercion, it is perfectly reasonable to call this free will.
@@chewbrocka6833 Excellent comeback my friend, but since it came from your unconscious mind and not from "you" I imagine that you are as mystified by it as I am. Peace.
@@chewbrocka6833 This is an issue I have with determinists in general. We started talking about the influence of your unconscious mind and now you have jumped to physics. It's a very complex subject so it would be useful to deal with one issue at a time. I don't agree with the premise of the video that someone called "unconscious" is really in control of your mind and decisions.
To know what it is like. To play a game. We make puzzles and escape rooms. Maybe consciousness likes games and challenges in order to see what it can do, to see what happens.
There was a funny quote I'm trying to remember but can't find. Something like, "God gave you free will so you have the freedom not to believe in free will." I can't remember and it's driving me nuts lol
If you have no free will than how you can take something for certain???😅 high lvl logic in top scientific world 😅 if you have no free will your theories are worth nothing
Part of science is simply explanatory, especially via experimental research. I'm other words, just to know for it's own sake. "Free will" violates cause and affect.
@@cruise_missile8387 if so, we would still be animals... We have free will to be alone a cause for a wished effect by our choice... so... if he means by that, that we are to stupid to controll everything... I suppose he shouldn't subvert the meaning of words he does not understands... I am surprised by this low IQ standards in todays scientfic word... you are kinda brain dead ppl
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You are free will. That’s what you are. If everything is determined, it is determined by a series of causation, however you are not a series of causation, you are a distinct entity that is not a causal chain.
Whats the tipping point from choosing to get out of bed or let it pass. ;) I choose, therefor I am....?
There is another thing -- the Intent. Per, Don Juan Mateo and Carlos Casteneda. And if extrapolated further, one could add that the future universe could be influencing the choose and/or other entities.
Current physics says indivisible stuff like our subatomic structure is not fundamental and divisible stuff like our atomic structure is fundamental.
Current physics is laughably incoherent.
“If you break through this sense of having free will”…. Without free will whether you don’t or do breakthrough is not your choice. His statement is self refuting.
I am in the middle of the video. If your comment is what he says word for word then no, it is not self refuting.
@@Bravetrain13 if your choices are inevitable you cannot “choose” to break through.
@@bsan7919 did you really just say if your choices are inevitable, you cannot choose? Buddy I have to admit that’s a big brain comment. Without free will, we would still make choices because we do make choices. You think this guy doesnt know that as self evident? The ones who choose to breakthrough would not have made their choice freely.
@@Bravetrain13 I don’t think you understand. Of course you “choose”, but it’s not a free choice, a choice in which you decide given all of the arguments for and against your decision. If your every thought, emotion, action, evaluation of evidence is a product of the laws of physics. He’s saying “if” as though you could choose to break through… but you can’t, because you’re just forced into whatever it is you “choose”.
Everybody is a philosopher and nobody is a builder
"Free" will... I can choose to think about it -or I can choose not to.
Seems like a choice I made on my own.
But in the grand scheme of things? Like.. sometimes you're "meant" to be somewhere at some time.. aka "destiny".. that's the only argument about "free will" I'm open to entertaining
Yes but are you actually choosing it or was that choice inevitable due to lack of free will? How do you know that choice isn't just an illusion?
@@OG-Jakey😂😂 because u decide to go somewhere and it end up being benefic to you that's Destiny but u made the choice to go even if somebody told you to go u could have said no
I believe your true free will is at the spiritual level. In the mind you can unconsciously accept or reject information but consciously you can override your reflexive reaction or go with it, both however will align to your spiritual state.
Retrocausation is supported by autonomic responses to stress inducing visual stimuli also occurring before a computer generates a random number to determine the slide (either stressful or peaceful).
I've noticed that when dualities are disputed, they are both true but we think only one can be true. This is 3-d thinking. But if we and reality is multidimensional, thinking only one can be true is fallacious.
Only thing I don't dispute is that we live in a dualistic universe, and that at the universe level both sides are necessary. However at our level I prefer to focus on the positive rather than the negative.
Your mind is the map, your heart the compass. You need both to find your way. But even if the arrow is pointing you straight into the darkest swamp, you must traverse it, regardless of the dangers lurking therein.
Love this
This only works if you assume consciousness is an emergant property of a materialistic universe. If we consider that consciousness is nonlocal, as recent studies show, then free will now can reside in non-local consciousness as the controller for a non-free will materialistic body.
The most obvious thing to me is that people have varying degrees of free will
Ive had this same thought, its crazy not many others have made the same point
Its often very science-oriented people discussing the topic so they want a definitive answer but its just a spectrum like most human traits
Interesting. I’m curious as to how these time presents come back from the future. Like what kind of technology would verify his assertions.
Freedom of choice wants freedom from choice according the sage DEVO.
My current opinion is that free will is a muscle that grows thru awareness, capability, and desire. Action is what the muscle does.
my will to be free cannot be broken...
You want to be free because you're not. If you were, you wouldn't
@@BarackObamaJedi Freedom is a word and words mean different things to different people. Thus freedom is a concept and does not exist within itself objectively, it's a metaphysical construct and thus open to interpretation.
Markov chains in this 3 dimensional universe means no freewill unless consciousness exists outside the brain
The free will comes from your spirit which does exist outside of the brain.
Free Will is a misnomer. What does it mean to be free? What is the will? By my definition, “free will” means that you have the freedom to do whatever you will. So no human being has free will, only God can have free will. And furthermore we are imprisoned by the circumstances of our lives from cradle to grave.
You think you're a unique butterfly, as distinct as any fingerprint, but in reality, Arnie has more options avaliable to him, in The Terminator when he chooses "Fuq you, a**hole"
2:49 - Is Retro causation the description of what we see in the double slit experiment? If it is, I'd not attribute this to the absence of free will, as again, this would include the collapsing wave function. The measurement is what give the result the appearance it has, now.
Maybe that's a stupid connection, I don't know if Retro Causation describes that effect.
When I have several things to do I visually map out my route and then that "activates" everything to fall in place for me. If I'm traveling I visualize a red carpet in front of me. Where Free Will gets a kink is when you think you can inject your will over another. You can strong arm them...or you can pick a weak person but that energy eventually implodes.
The Jedi's mind trick only works on the weak willed lol.
Free will issue has long been settled.
Nothing has been "settled" and is always open for debate. This is how we grow and develop.
You're accepting a paradigm that doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. It took me a while to realize that while I didn't seem to know what was going on in my unconscious, my unconscious knew everything that was going on in my conscious mind, so the perceived separation only goes one way, so maybe the distinction isn't real at all. I only have one mind. There is only one person inside of me, and it is that person who controls all of my voluntary muscles. The only logical conclusion is that I am the one generating all purposeful behaviors, and when free of external coercion, it is perfectly reasonable to call this free will.
No.
@@chewbrocka6833 Excellent comeback my friend, but since it came from your unconscious mind and not from "you" I imagine that you are as mystified by it as I am. Peace.
@@caricue yea because biology doesn't follow the rules of physics lmao.
@@chewbrocka6833 This is an issue I have with determinists in general. We started talking about the influence of your unconscious mind and now you have jumped to physics. It's a very complex subject so it would be useful to deal with one issue at a time. I don't agree with the premise of the video that someone called "unconscious" is really in control of your mind and decisions.
@@caricue you started talking about the unconscious. I didn't. We are biological machines that follow rules. It's that simple.
Genius. Put up a chart and insert yourself into a quarter of it. Why even put it up ?
Retro causation can’t be true. Why would we put our selves through the hard lessons of life? Why would we make our self want things we can’t have?
To know what it is like. To play a game. We make puzzles and escape rooms. Maybe consciousness likes games and challenges in order to see what it can do, to see what happens.
There was a funny quote I'm trying to remember but can't find.
Something like, "God gave you free will so you have the freedom not to believe in free will."
I can't remember and it's driving me nuts lol
What sort of nonsense crap are these two on about? 😭😭😂
Their brains are so big that we didn't even have to choose to comment. The power of science compels me
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Is this some sort of CIA operative we’re supposed to trust
If you have no free will than how you can take something for certain???😅 high lvl logic in top scientific world 😅 if you have no free will your theories are worth nothing
Part of science is simply explanatory, especially via experimental research. I'm other words, just to know for it's own sake. "Free will" violates cause and affect.
@@cruise_missile8387 if so, we would still be animals... We have free will to be alone a cause for a wished effect by our choice... so... if he means by that, that we are to stupid to controll everything... I suppose he shouldn't subvert the meaning of words he does not understands... I am surprised by this low IQ standards in todays scientfic word... you are kinda brain dead ppl
Let's go Brandon, I agree!