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Once again we see the devastating effects of de-industrialization and the loss of manufacturing jobs which sustained communities such as this. Most who can afford to leave do so. No significant development replaces what is lost. Poverty, crime, and corruption ensue as a result. Such typical a scenario now as to be cliched.
The metal scrapyard may have been the site of National Railway Equipment (NRE). NRE was a scrapper of locomotives and also a dealer and rebuilder of them. I was a railfan back in the 1980s and 1990s. Back then my railfan buddies and I would drive down from the Northwest Side to Dolton Crossing (it was a lot safer back then) and we'd always make a side trip to NRE to see what locomotives were sitting on the siding.
Thanks for the video. As a kid, I grew up in South Blue Island. Hung out In Dixmoor a lot . Sure has Changed. Now I am in Mokena. Yes and go to the town of Phoenix.
I know the southern portion of Cook County is getting worse over the years, especially in South Side Chicago. When it comes to suburbs, Dixmoor, IL is quite a different struggling suburb in Chicagoland. I think Dixmoor has to be the most corrupt suburb in Cook County.
What about Harvey, IL? It sucks too. When I think of the northern portion of Cook County, it's decent, but the best suburbs in Chicagoland has to be in DuPage County.
I worked these areas (the last several videos) as a field manager for a big company for over a decade and grew up nearby. I still live about ten minutes away in a pretty good spot, Oak Forest. I only dream about New Zealand. Nice to hear from ya! 🫡
Blue Island is a popular place for train watching especially at the junction and cross-overs of Broadway St on the north side of town. There are several rusty steel bridges over the SAG -Cal Channel which make for nice photo backgrounds. There is a lot of train movements through this intersection. The area is a little on the grungy side for sure. There is a little unpaved parking area, and one of the homes has quite a nice garden growing in his backyard during the summer including a small orchard of peach trees. I did find a Dunkin' Donuts in the town proper, so how bad could it be? I forgot to ask if they had toasted coconut!😜😂 If you run out of locations in the rust belt, we have quite a few super fund sites here in New Jersey! Keep up the good work!
If you're a Harvey resident would you really want to annex Dixmoor? Thank you Chris for another entertaining video of where not to buy a home in Illinois. Gritty music fits this city perfectly.
There is a 1997 article in the Chicago Tribune about the Dixmoor Park District having 59 police officers. They had 7 in 1994. The Park District had no office. I think the article is behind a pay wall so this is a clip "The Dixmoor Park District currently collects nearly $250,000 in taxes. Until recently, it listed as many as 59 officers on its police force, including, federal prosecutors alleged Friday, a leader of the Traveling Vice Lords street gang. The Park District doesn’t have an office, and its phone number is disconnected. In fact, the entire village has only one little park. Even officials at Dixmoor Village Hall aren’t sure how to contact the Park District or where to find its officers." “The last time I heard, they were in St. Mark’s Church,” said Towana Ashley, a village water clerk. "Dixmoor has just a tiny “tot lot” called Children’s Memorial Park. The park at 143rd Street and Paulina Avenue has two swing sets, a slide and a couple of plastic whales and pelicans for children to rock back and forth. There’s a fence around the swing sets, but the seats are falling off the swings, and there is no lighting in or around the park."
Chicago suburbs especially southern and some western suburbs have been going downhill over the past years only good chicago suburbs are Hinsdale,Clarendon Hills,La Grange, Western Springs, Oak brook, Elmhurst, Willow springs pretty much all the higher class suburbs
Sad that folks are so poor that they can't afford to board up their homes and move away from those corrupt, dying cities. No wonder there's liquor stores on every corner. I'd be drunk all the time if I had to live there too.
Took a quick look on Google maps seeing if there was some rail infrastructure that could be at least some help to the town a bit and saw a number of spur lines which looked promising. Switched to satellite view and found that they were all overgrown and long out of service. Oh well.
Ha ha, you drove right by "Dimoor Meat Market". That came up first in my search of this town. South Side Chicago and it's troubled suburbs are a national embarrassment.
Well I have had quite a day viewing your videos...from Santa Barbara Beautiful and Unaffordable to this. Very disparate places and both handled very well by you...amazing. Corruption is often about kicking others when they are already down...despicable. I thought about your prophetic livability score in many different places while driving through Chicagoland on a recent visit. Thanks to you I am seeing places more deeply and thoughtfully.
Mannn most of the southern Cook County suburbs are in disarray. Thank goodness the western suburbs are in a much better shape and look a hell of alot better esthetically
Dixmoore looks better than both flint Michigan and Gary Indiana and Camden new jersey and East Cleveland Ohio, all combined into one messed up community folks thanks for listening and sharing anyway s😊
I love your videos especially all your Illinois videos, it saves me time and curiosity of driving into these places. Why I love the ghetto, sorry deindustrialized and abandoned places can be something people should see and has political and economic lessons involved.
I truly believe that the suburbs went to hell when the projectd started coming doen in the 90s. Everybody started moving towards the suburbs and my hometown Hammond. We definitely saw a difference out there so i can only imagine hownit affected the other suburbs
I deliver cardboard to a company in Dixmoor all the time. Yep the whole region is trashed. Dixmoor, Harvey, Blue Island, Posen, Calumet City, Dolton, Sauk Village, Chicago Heights, Homewood, Markham, South Holland and many more are all sadly trashed.
I could see Dixmoor split in two where the trailer park and junkyard side will go to Blue Island and even some unincorporated areas of blue island. And the areas south of the third set of tracks south of the junkyards can go to Harvey. Basically along racial lines the north is mostly Hispanic and White the south is mostly Black. But as more people move out of Dixmoor I can also see demographics changes in the town as more Hispanics/immigrants moving into places like Blue Island Posen and creeping eastward towards these areas and Harvey.
Hi Chris I want to know do you ever do the city tours lived on the southeast side of Chicago my hold life. The history when I lived there the southeast side alway been nice middle class after the 90 it started to go down bad it would be great if you do one
If dixmoore residents want help with there water supply problems flint Michigan people know exactly how they feel from past years of flooding drought like policies from there corrupt politicians who are in charge of the town😮
Pritzker he is an anecdotally nightmare for Illinois I don't believe Pritzker was ever in East St Louis Illinois I used anecdotally as a substitute word for something else because Pritzker he gets my blood boiling and I'm not over in Illinois I'm in Missouri. I have friends and family trapped in Illinois and I can't afford to get them out. Dexter Lombardo out 🤠🧔 Great video next time do Northbrook Illinois they cook the books too they live behind those gates in those gated communities they are bad people.
I remember when moving to certain south suburban towns were a sign that you made it. A status symbol, if you will. Now, whether you're in the city or the suburbs, it's basically one in the same.😞
Your right I was wrong all three of those comments on Those communities are not as bad as dixmoore .on the other hand ✋ hand i could be wrong 😑 that’s a wrap up Folks for today’s world history lesson as always Chris your videos are amazing 😊😊😊😊
When I was working as a teacher in Harvey and had to go to a meeting at another school and drove through Dix more I got stopped by two police officers for going 10 miles over the speeding limit
Hello 👋🏿 Chris, am I wrong or doesn’t The Village of Dixmoor have a commercial zone with a strip mall somewhere around Dixie Hwy Northeast of 147 street?
What needs to be done with 90% of these kinda areas is all remaining residents should be given money to relocate and the land should be completely cleared and reverted back to farmland. We're literally wasting billions and billions of dollars every year trying to keep these kinda suburbs afloat for what exactly? Trying to keep these alive would be like trying to keep a store like Kmart open that only sees 4 customers per day. There comes a point when its time to just turn off the lights and abandoned the whole property.
Local Government sounds about like Detroit was when Kwame was in there. Knew a fellow that got his tail in a ringer because he had dealings with Kwame, had a lot of money too henceforth why K. cuddled up to him. Crooks all.
@ChrisHarden You title should say "its last legs" instead of "it's last legs." As it is written now, your title reads "it is last legs." Please fix it promptly.
@@Clementinee lol, I can easily get food out the door of my house, deer! Let alone garden is huge!!!! Don’t have to depend on a store! Also have multiple vehicles! Not like you, have to depend on a local grocery store!!!!
I know why this mayor won't be investigated. You know why, too. But we have manners and we don't need to say it out loud. Just know that we know. And we are keeping account for when the temperature in the country is right. Accountability will be meted out, justice served.
Dixmoor has few taxpayers. Too few to make it as a city. Couldn't even have a decent riot in Dixmoor. Better to buy out and level almost all the homes and streets/sidewalks and return the land to Agriculture.
it really should be annexed, there's no point in it existing on its own at that size, the fact it *can't* exist on its own. it doesn't sound as if there would be a lot of government redundancy to eliminate.
I'd really appreciate if you had a livability score indicating the availability of sex industry. Stuff like street walkers, gentlemen's clubs, and shady massage parlors.
You're not "poor shaming" like some other channel, "world according to (redacted)", OTOH, outsiders need to know Chicago area is not all "rust belt". We got may thriving communities, all over.
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I wonder what a lot of Chicago's rough suburbs will look like in 20 or 30 years from now.
As a resident of Hammond and working in Riverdale, and living in the Calumet region over 40 years , I really enjoy your videos.
Awesome! Thank you
Once again we see the devastating effects of de-industrialization and the loss of manufacturing jobs which sustained communities such as this. Most who can afford to leave do so. No significant development replaces what is lost. Poverty, crime, and corruption ensue as a result. Such typical a scenario now as to be cliched.
The metal scrapyard may have been the site of National Railway Equipment (NRE). NRE was a scrapper of locomotives and also a dealer and rebuilder of them. I was a railfan back in the 1980s and 1990s. Back then my railfan buddies and I would drive down from the Northwest Side to Dolton Crossing (it was a lot safer back then) and we'd always make a side trip to NRE to see what locomotives were sitting on the siding.
Ah, Dixmoor. When you can't make it in Blue Island, you move into a trailer park in Dixmoor.
Truth!
Haha
Thanks for the advice. Can't afford much these days
No cap and blue island is bogus lol I lived in oak forest midlothian and Posen if you live in dixmoor you might as well live in Harvey
You got that right! 😂😂😂
Thanks for the video. As a kid, I grew up in South Blue Island. Hung out In Dixmoor a lot . Sure has Changed. Now I am in Mokena. Yes and go to the town of Phoenix.
You need to do Phoenix, Illinois soon!
Did. 2nd video of Harvey on my archive channel
@@ChrisHarden I'll check it out. Used to teach school there.
I know the southern portion of Cook County is getting worse over the years, especially in South Side Chicago. When it comes to suburbs, Dixmoor, IL is quite a different struggling suburb in Chicagoland. I think Dixmoor has to be the most corrupt suburb in Cook County.
Definitely corrupt, but more than Dolton?
More than Cicero? Bellwood?
No suburb was more corrupt than bridgeview when oremus was mayor
black
What about Harvey, IL? It sucks too. When I think of the northern portion of Cook County, it's decent, but the best suburbs in Chicagoland has to be in DuPage County.
All that money should have replaced those water mains. I feel bad for the people who have to live there 😢❤
Dolton is soon heading there.
@@themagnificentone5969 Harvey makes Dolton look like Naperville
..these are great to watch ..I'm in New Zealand 🇳🇿 so its interesting to see bits of America
I worked these areas (the last several videos) as a field manager for a big company for over a decade and grew up nearby. I still live about ten minutes away in a pretty good spot, Oak Forest. I only dream about New Zealand. Nice to hear from ya! 🫡
wow surprised a kiwi even knows of our south suburban existence. hope to see what nz is like one day
Thanks Chris. Another Chicago suburb I'll be sure to avoid permanently.
One of the highest taxed states in the country and still can’t get it together. I’m so glad I left 40 years ago.
I hope you aren't voting for the same politicians
Wonderfully said Chris, Dixmoor will be Nomoor!!!
Blue Island is a popular place for train watching especially at the junction and cross-overs of Broadway St on the north side of town. There are several rusty steel bridges over the SAG -Cal Channel which make for nice photo backgrounds. There is a lot of train movements through this intersection. The area is a little on the grungy side for sure. There is a little unpaved parking area, and one of the homes has quite a nice garden growing in his backyard during the summer including a small orchard of peach trees. I did find a Dunkin' Donuts in the town proper, so how bad could it be? I forgot to ask if they had toasted coconut!😜😂 If you run out of locations in the rust belt, we have quite a few super fund sites here in New Jersey! Keep up the good work!
Doesn’t New Jersey have more superfund sites per capita than any other state?
@@ChrisHarden I think so.
Another great video. I enjoy watching them !
Thanks!
If you're a Harvey resident would you really want to annex Dixmoor? Thank you Chris for another entertaining video of where not to buy a home in Illinois. Gritty music fits this city perfectly.
And thank you for all of the support as always!
There is a 1997 article in the Chicago Tribune about the Dixmoor Park District having 59 police officers. They had 7 in 1994. The Park District had no office. I think the article is behind a pay wall so this is a clip
"The Dixmoor Park District currently collects nearly $250,000 in taxes. Until recently, it listed as many as 59 officers on its police force, including, federal prosecutors alleged Friday, a leader of the Traveling Vice Lords street gang.
The Park District doesn’t have an office, and its phone number is disconnected. In fact, the entire village has only one little park.
Even officials at Dixmoor Village Hall aren’t sure how to contact the Park District or where to find its officers."
“The last time I heard, they were in St. Mark’s Church,” said Towana Ashley, a village water clerk.
"Dixmoor has just a tiny “tot lot” called Children’s Memorial Park. The park at 143rd Street and Paulina Avenue has two swing sets, a slide and a couple of plastic whales and pelicans for children to rock back and forth. There’s a fence around the swing sets, but the seats are falling off the swings, and there is no lighting in or around the park."
I remember when the suburbs used to be nice and manicured looking and now it went to ish
There’s plenty of nice suburbs… Just… not the ones that I’ve been showing the past few months 🥴
The water main issues are all of Thorton Township
I used to work in posen il 9 yrs ago same mess its so sad looking especially in the night depressing
Chicago suburbs especially southern and some western suburbs have been going downhill over the past years only good chicago suburbs are Hinsdale,Clarendon Hills,La Grange, Western Springs, Oak brook, Elmhurst, Willow springs pretty much all the higher class suburbs
Another great video,Chris
Sad that folks are so poor that they can't afford to board up their homes and move away from those corrupt, dying cities. No wonder there's liquor stores on every corner. I'd be drunk all the time if I had to live there too.
Took a quick look on Google maps seeing if there was some rail infrastructure that could be at least some help to the town a bit and saw a number of spur lines which looked promising. Switched to satellite view and found that they were all overgrown and long out of service. Oh well.
Ha ha, you drove right by "Dimoor Meat Market". That came up first in my search of this town. South Side Chicago and it's troubled suburbs are a national embarrassment.
Well I have had quite a day viewing your videos...from Santa Barbara Beautiful and Unaffordable to this. Very disparate places and both handled very well by you...amazing. Corruption is often about kicking others when they are already down...despicable. I thought about your prophetic livability score in many different places while driving through Chicagoland on a recent visit. Thanks to you I am seeing places more deeply and thoughtfully.
Thank you for all of your support!
Mannn most of the southern Cook County suburbs are in disarray. Thank goodness the western suburbs are in a much better shape and look a hell of alot better esthetically
It's like a mini Flint, Michigan. So sad
and run by the same political party.
My family and I live in frankfort illinois and sometimes I forget how close we live to this overflowing toilet 😂
My great grandparents lived on Wood Street, but in Harvey. Bet it's a vacant lot today. One way to find out.
Dixmoore looks better than both flint Michigan and Gary Indiana and Camden new jersey and East Cleveland Ohio, all combined into one messed up community folks thanks for listening and sharing anyway s😊
Gary bad but it don't look like this amd the water is drinkable
The better question should be "Is their any city that isn't corrupt in Illinois"?
I love your videos especially all your Illinois videos, it saves me time and curiosity of driving into these places. Why I love the ghetto, sorry deindustrialized and abandoned places can be something people should see and has political and economic lessons involved.
Fascinating history
You are not mediocre, Chris. I’m from Scandinavia, and I enjoy your videos and information 😊
I truly believe that the suburbs went to hell when the projectd started coming doen in the 90s. Everybody started moving towards the suburbs and my hometown Hammond. We definitely saw a difference out there so i can only imagine hownit affected the other suburbs
Love the series
I deliver cardboard to a company in Dixmoor all the time. Yep the whole region is trashed. Dixmoor, Harvey, Blue Island, Posen, Calumet City, Dolton, Sauk Village, Chicago Heights, Homewood, Markham, South Holland and many more are all sadly trashed.
Homewood is doing just fine.
@@ryanwilliams5093 You are correct sir! I got Homewood confused with something else.
Dixmoor had a volunteer fire department.
That is a sad, bleak place. I can only imagine what it's like in the middle of winter...😢
Sounds like Jackson Mississippi
My guess if the highway wasn't running through Dixmoor it would be in far worse shape. but still a very good video Chris
The theme song at the start of the video sets my mind for "uh oh, here we go on this city."😂😂
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11:39 why does this sound like it can happen today!!!! Sounds just like what we been going thru the past couple of years
Don't forget where you came from. It's not where you from, its how you come!
Dixmoor Meat Market been selling bad meat since the 80’s!
Not to mention the water mains keep breaking leaving people without water..
If you live in Oakland California, dixmoor looks like the place to be!.
Anywhere looks like the place to be compared to Oakland, California
@@ChrisHardenif it's so bad why does it still cost so much to live there?
I could see Dixmoor split in two where the trailer park and junkyard side will go to Blue Island and even some unincorporated areas of blue island. And the areas south of the third set of tracks south of the junkyards can go to Harvey. Basically along racial lines the north is mostly Hispanic and White the south is mostly Black. But as more people move out of Dixmoor I can also see demographics changes in the town as more Hispanics/immigrants moving into places like Blue Island Posen and creeping eastward towards these areas and Harvey.
It was a forging company and that’s a steam plant for their steam hammers not a coal plant.
That’s horrible.
Can u do phoenix IL
Hi Chris I want to know do you ever do the city tours lived on the southeast side of Chicago my hold life. The history when I lived there the southeast side alway been nice middle class after the 90 it started to go down bad it would be great if you do one
If dixmoore residents want help with there water supply problems flint Michigan people know exactly how they feel from past years of flooding drought like policies from there corrupt politicians who are in charge of the town😮
Looks alot like Highland Park in Mi.
Pritzker he is an anecdotally
nightmare for Illinois
I don't believe Pritzker was ever in East St Louis Illinois
I used anecdotally as a substitute word for something else because Pritzker he gets my blood boiling and I'm not over in Illinois I'm in Missouri.
I have friends and family trapped in Illinois and I can't afford to get them out.
Dexter Lombardo out 🤠🧔
Great video next time do Northbrook Illinois they cook the books too they live behind those gates in those gated communities they are bad people.
I remember when moving to certain south suburban towns were a sign that you made it. A status symbol, if you will.
Now, whether you're in the city or the suburbs, it's basically one in the same.😞
No it aint some suburbs aren't dead nor villages look at oak lawn evergreen park
Chicago has a lot of nice suburbs still. Just not the ones that I’ve been showing recently and not that many towards the south.
Your right I was wrong all three of those comments on
Those communities are not as bad as dixmoore .on the other hand ✋ hand i could be wrong 😑 that’s a wrap up
Folks for today’s world history lesson as always Chris your videos are amazing 😊😊😊😊
Thats too bad about the steel manufacturing back in the 80 s i became a certified welder and did it for 3 years.not healthy but fun .
When I was working as a teacher in Harvey and had to go to a meeting at another school and drove through Dix more I got stopped by two police officers for going 10 miles over the speeding limit
They where looking for revenue, gonna try to write u a bunch of tickets
You should do blue Island. I live on broadway and old western
Could it revert to agriculture?
The entire planet will revert to nature after humans go extinct.
Well done
I always get dixmoor and Posen mixed up with each other.
Just remember Posen has homes that are for rent. Dixmoor has mobile homes for rent.
Nosing in Posen
Posen is a little further west
Hello 👋🏿 Chris, am I wrong or doesn’t The Village of Dixmoor have a commercial zone with a strip mall somewhere around Dixie Hwy Northeast of 147 street?
Hi. It does, but the offerings are very limited and are some pretty low end stuff. Subway, Aldi, Family Dollar, yeah. Very low end.
I’m curious now so I’m going to find out.
@@ChrisHarden I see, you should have put that district in your video to accurately depict the existing condition.
The music is pretty good ! But it seems like it’s being played to pad the videos to 30 minutes . Maybe better for monetization ?
Dixmoor is unique. It’s a small place with not much to talk about without sounding repetitive, but there’s also a lot of abandoned stuff to see.
What needs to be done with 90% of these kinda areas is all remaining residents should be given money to relocate and the land should be completely cleared and reverted back to farmland. We're literally wasting billions and billions of dollars every year trying to keep these kinda suburbs afloat for what exactly? Trying to keep these alive would be like trying to keep a store like Kmart open that only sees 4 customers per day. There comes a point when its time to just turn off the lights and abandoned the whole property.
Send migrants there. Then you will see how fast the government fixes the water issue.
Do some videos of the Upper Peninsula in Michigan.
I have. I’ll be back for some more though.
WHY?
After all the property taxes are behind, the houses foreclosed, they can put down gravel for a big tent camp. It’s gonna be great!
There's plenty of money in the public pensions to solve the water problem in the south suburbs.
Haha probably so
Local Government sounds about like Detroit was when Kwame was in there. Knew a fellow that got his tail in a ringer because he had dealings with Kwame, had a lot of money too henceforth why K. cuddled up to him. Crooks all.
Go check out Robbins . Where Robbin' is what they love to do there 😂
Video coming soon
Why do towns name there town after there water tank ?
Tyffany henyard is going through Dolton like crap through a goose 😅 gimme dat mutha phuqa!
@ChrisHarden You title should say "its last legs" instead of "it's last legs." As it is written now, your title reads "it is last legs." Please fix it promptly.
Wait… who misspelled what where? Haha thanks. 👍🏻
Thank God for living rural, no city water for me! Well water with high water tables! 🤪
thank god if your pickup truck broke down, it's only a 45 minute walk to the nearest grocery store lmao
@@Clementinee lol, I can easily get food out the door of my house, deer! Let alone garden is huge!!!! Don’t have to depend on a store! Also have multiple vehicles! Not like you, have to depend on a local grocery store!!!!
Why is it so easy to not have to answer to anyone for embezzling money? Because in Illinois, there are no consequences...or so folk think...
I know why this mayor won't be investigated. You know why, too. But we have manners and we don't need to say it out loud. Just know that we know. And we are keeping account for when the temperature in the country is right. Accountability will be meted out, justice served.
So you hate blacks and you eagerly look forward to lynchings being legal? Got it.
Dixmoor has few taxpayers. Too few to make it as a city. Couldn't even have a decent riot in Dixmoor. Better to buy out and level almost all the homes and streets/sidewalks and return the land to Agriculture.
What comes to these towns first, Democrats or despair?
Democrats. 100%
Industries left . BOTH parties are too blame for all that. These problems started decades ago.
@@spaceghost8995 You need to research the Trump “USMCA” Act.
Ok now do Robbins,IL
Do a video on Lake Forest. I hear that place is a dump.
Dixmoor taxes are expected to increase 122% in 2025
it really should be annexed, there's no point in it existing on its own at that size, the fact it *can't* exist on its own. it doesn't sound as if there would be a lot of government redundancy to eliminate.
Who wants to annex it?
@@Imperial0666 lol
I'd really appreciate if you had a livability score indicating the availability of sex industry. Stuff like street walkers, gentlemen's clubs, and shady massage parlors.
I liked when you said " these people" never do lol 😆
You're not "poor shaming" like some other channel, "world according to (redacted)", OTOH, outsiders need to know Chicago area is not all "rust belt". We got may thriving communities, all over.
Blue island still standing strong for now 💀💪
What is that huge cluster of buildings in the background at 0:59?! Just kidding.
So you're saying Dixmoor has a drinking problem? 😁
Would love to see a video about Midlothian IL. Familiar with all of these towns.
Midlothian has not declined like this. Stop playing. It's full of Mexicans now though.
Hey Chris, Your Shit is too gloomy boy.I move to different subjects starting now!☹️
If Chicago continues its path, the entire state of Illinois will be vacated.
All of these Crap South Suburbs have 1 thing in common. Can you guess what that could be ?
Naw, what is it? They have POOR whites on all of those suburbs.
The ghetto
Haha no what could it be?
No jobs
Democrats
A feeding pen for the zombie apocalypse.
Do matteson
One day
At least it's NOT Ford Heights or some of the near South-East HOODS of Rockford!!!😮
Rockford is not as bad as Dixmoor. Nothing is as bad as Ford Heights.
@@ChrisHarden Sauk Village is really bad.