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Going to sound odd but thank you for this I'm a haute native(sorta) been stuck in Topeka which is far worse and been missing home and getting to see my home town and hear some history I didn't know is kinda awesome and helps the home sickness
If you think terre haute is bad now you should have seen it 20 or 30 years ago. It is so much better now and the attitude of the residents has changed towards it. Now there is pride in the city and hope for more prosperity in the future.
I agree. It has turned over. It is still very trashy though. I mean garbage up and down every street,sidewalk,parking lot and park. Trash from one end to the other
Yet more in-town industries and businesses have closed since 2018, the city is still packed full of parking lots and parking garages, suburban-styled soulless buildings scattered across, the few remnants of the past surviving on their own, surrounded by empty lots, the university slowly taking over the whole town, the city itself hardly existent, corrupt suburb barons building their suburban empires, landlords buying and leaving houses empty and abandoned, and the only prosperity is on the outskirts, where there is no city, where there is no pride.
The city truly only has one or two streets left. And they’re both being eaten by the university. Prosperity? Ha. Future? Ha. The only people moving into this city are blind college students. They will never build anything good anymore in the city itself.
@ tell me you don’t live here without telling me you don’t live here haha. You’re just dead wrong. You should do something else with your time because this isn’t it.
A friend of mine who is also a native Hautian recommended this video to me he said it was " funny " and after watching it ; his comment kinda leaves me scratching my head. First for context ,both he and I grew up in Vigo county him on the south side me one the north end . Both of us graduated high school there and both got our bachelor degrees from ISU in the 80's . Overall I would give this video a B grade for accuracy. I feel from a historical perspective it was pretty solid but some important details were either minimized or glossed over. The importance of the Hulman family in Terre Haute history cant be underestimated, besides renaming of Rose Poly to its current name their imprints are all over the early part of Terre Haute, especially in terms of how the city developed , at one time I believe they owned almost 1/3 of eastern Vigo county and were the richest family in Indiana for decades before the Simon brothers. I also believe they migrated from Cincinnati in the early 1800's to set up their business and who can forget Clabber girl baking powder. I am not sure how you can do a video on Terre haute and forget Eugene V Debbs one of the most important figures in US labor history, you drove about 8 blocks away from his house which is a museum and gives a great glimpse into Terre Haute's rich labor past . Memorial Stadium used to be a horse racing track with the farm and stables on the south side of Wabash ave. Now on to the more modern era , sadly the areas that you drove through look 10x better than they did 20 or 30 yrs ago. Terre Haute has done a good job trying to demolish and renovate but with dwindling tax base from the loss of the factories and tax revenues there is only so much they can do. For context when I went to high school you could not fit all 4 grades in the high schools and 9th graders were in the Jr highs , with separate sports teams. Prostitution got clamped down on in the 1960's by mayor Tucker ( near the end of his long tenure ) but was still going as my great Uncle worked for one of the madams and had my dad drove the girls between Terre Haute and Joliet, Ill. If you would have driven a a mile or 2 north you would have seen many of the abandoned factories that stated getting down sized or completely shut down in the 90's, like JI Case or Columbia House/ Sony the later employing , I believe , at its peak over 2,000 people. At one time Terre Haute had 420 or so functioning bars/taverns , which was great for shift workers who had a place to drink after work. Strip joints in town have always been few and crap . The horrible smell from the Weston paper factory is gone ( Smelly Haute ) but the tons of railroad tracks remain, though not as busy. Its said Dillinger never robbed a bank in town because he was afraid of getting railroaded on his getaway attempt. Sadly , I disagree with you on the ability on my hometown being able to fully recover. Its just to easy for large corporations to set up shop in the Indianapolis metro given the interstate system, great airport and miles of farmland that can easily be converted to factories and warehouses. Yes, you are correct, ISU is underrated and many of the guys and gals I graduated with went on to become lawyers, engineers , business men and women .
Terry hot...terry hut...terre haute has a large population of gypsys but we are not to talk about them...they are the drug mafia of the midwest..lost of drugs. Sex trafficing..high crime rate.dirty water and air.its still sin city.
Enjoyed your post. I was born in Terre Haute and lived there on and off for decades. My grandfather was Superintendent of City Cemeteries, including Highland Lawn, for 20 years under Mayor Tucker. Good people there.
I mean, the "bad" parts of this town looked not so bad. It appeared that the old, abandoned homes were removed in those neighborhoods. This town looked like a new community vs. East Cleveland, Detroit, Gary Indiana, and other rust belt cities with the gazzilions of abandoned, run downed homes, and commercial buildings.
Give the city credit for knocking down the abandoned homes and empty commercial buildings. As your other videos show so nicely; Most cities who've lost a large portion of thier population and tax base don't have the funds to do the clean up on isle 9. I saw someone else's video on a part of Cleveland. Just wow! I felt sorry for the folks who are too poor to leave.@@ChrisHarden
@@warbirdwf even much of Detroit is actually the same now just mostly empty looking but fairly well kept up. The neighborhoods full of abandoned buildings are there too but are now a minority. Terre Haute is just the exception in having now cleaned up most of the ruins nearly throughout the city but many others have made substantial progress. Smaller size is an advantage in that regard.
I remember receiving a lot of packages from Terre Haute when I was young. They had a Columbia House record distribution place. Ten records or tapes for a penny. Then they'd mail you the record of the month for 14.99 unless you sent the card back. I'm sure it's gone now, but I wonder if the building still stands.
Columbia House shut down its Terre Haute facility in 2009 - the year the parent company shut down music mail-order operations. The building stands vacant today.
Nice work! I grew up in West Lafayette--a little island of prosperity and excellence in a sea of drab despair. Hey, Vincennes has a really interesting history and would make a nice video.
Though this town has seen better days, one thing that stands out as you are traveling through the town. PEOPLE SHOW RESPECT BY PICKING UP TRASH❤️. It’s wonderful to see most areas were TRASH FREE. Compared to Atlanta, Georgia where people stop at a drive thru for lunch. 10 minutes later while at a stop light they roll their windows down and throw out all their trash with no regard to who is going to pick up the trash they were too lazy to dispose of properly themselves.
As a local now in the county to its north - trash is a big issue all over this region. I literally gather trash everywhere I go. Too many people are lazy and inconsiderate. They take NO pride in their surroundings. If they do, it's for the interior of their vehicle and not wanting their trash to mess it up. Without a doubt, routes heavily used to get to school are the WORSE in rural areas! That is, when school is in session. It's an uphill battle. Not even getting into dumped tvs mattresses furniture paint and general trash on every mile of any county road with woods alongside it.
You aren't wrong on a number of things, however, watching this video and actually living here changes my perspective on how other videos like it are produced when shot through the lense of blight and a windshield. Had you stopped long enough to discuss the good, the bad and the ugly with locals you may have been able to present a better, more accurate story but I understand, there's only so much time. TH has one of the best park and trail systems of any city it's size in the country. The Swope museum is ranked by USA today as one of the top 10 art museum in the country in cities under 500k. A lap through the industrial park would have revealed massive operations of newer businesses, some foreign based and around 2 billion in new construction over the last few years. An interesting discussion with our new Mayor, a 27 year old retired Army Ranger and his aggressive agenda moving forward. Almost anything you want within reason is here and any part of town is accessible in a 15-20 minute drive and 500k buys 7k square feet of luxury home in a park setting, almost none of that was revealed just "affordability". Next time you are in the area hit me up and I'll buy lunch, I'm on Facebook.
Hey, I'm born and raised in Terre Haute!! You really should also do a video on Toad Hop and West Terre Haute. Oh, and Terre Haute has a new mayor that is 27 years old! Wow!
Mom & Dad met at & graduated from ISU. Mom's relatives lived & some succeeding gens still live there, so when I was younger we visited fairly often. Dad hated the town... the headache-inducing odors and the RR tracks everywhere that would delay you any time & direction you were going. 5:56 - I remember being stopped at this RR crossing on 41 on our way home, in a time before this overpass was put in.
Wow. Looking at google satellite it's clear the majority of Terre Haute neighborhoods are in large part composed of vacant lots. The city may have lost less then 20% from it's peak but most of it' clearly lost far more, which means the city also anexed and/or sprawled out massively yet still lost residents...
I was born and raised in Terre Haute and graduated from ISU with a degree in English. I now work in PR for a state agency in Louisiana and have published many articles. Thank you, ISU!
You tell them Nephew. Your Uncle Larry graduated from what was Wiley High School 1965, since torn down. I attended ISU for one year, and during the heat of the Vietnam War, I joined the US Navy for 6 years. I returned to live in the south end of Terre Haute from 1978-1985 at US Prison Terre Haute. I transferred to another prison, FCI Otisville, NY. But, Terre Haute has changed over the years in my travels, and with the 27 year old Mayor, appears to be on the upturn with the enthusiasm of its residents.
@@larry-u3e ~ Larry, did you know Evelyn Coakley? She was the Secretary to the Warden at the Federal Penn. She was my Aunt, and she could type 140 wpm, hence the good job 1950's-80's. I lived there from 1955-1983. I remember Wiley, I was at Garfield for it's last year. ps...Thank you for your Service!
Another nice one Chris. As a transplanted Hoosier I'm not gonna lie, I paused the video a 1:04 to see if any of the armpits were too close to where I am!
As a frequent driver of I-70 - from Ohio to Missouri, I have probably gone through Terre Haute over a hundred times in my life and have stopped there a few dozen times. Any time that I have stopped in the town for more than a few minutes - usually for Popeyes and gas, some kinda BS always goes down: 1. My grandpa’s car was totaled as it was set on fire 2. My dad thought that he lost his wallet, so we had to search across downtown until, after 30 minutes, we found it in some weird compartment of our rental car 3. Upon getting kicked out of a bar advertised as a restaurant - I was a kid and was not allowed inside, Siri navigated me and my family to a corn field and told us to “leave the vehicle” while navigating to a different restaurant 4. I nearly became involved in a three way collision car crash at an intersection 5. Generally, THIS TOWN IS BAD LUCK!!!
We called it the armpit back in the '70s when it was bustling. At least they haven't permitted burned out homes to accumulate since then, like in Detroit or Gary. It would help if people in Terre Haute would vote for candidates that promote policies of job growth.
A guy carried his portable meth lab into a White Castle hamburger joint located in Hobart Indiana. The NW corner of the state. Seemed he just wanted to use the restroom and forgot it in there. He came back looking for it and it went from there. Police, newspaper so forth.
The World's largest chemical company desired to construct a large OEM automotive coating facility in Terra Haute in 1987 - 1989. Local wealthy residents and union activists fought to keep them out - the chemical company was not unionized in the US and the high proposed wages for employees would have upset the lower prevailing wage in Terra Haute/Vigo County. That chemical company gave up and moved to the cornfields of Ohio and built the plant, hired and trained locals there, and pay them to this day more than double that local prevailing wage. An golden opportunity missed by Terra Haute some 35+ years ago.
@@gmaneiswould be interesting to see how that element has played out for their eventual location in Ohio. Unfortunately the odds are probably high the environmental impact has proven very low to non existent.
That company was BASF. That was a great loss for the city. They wanted to build it on the south side of town near where the majority of the wealthiest residents live.
Great drone shots! I think one of the best things about the city is the colleges. The city should figure out a way to keep those engineers once they graduate. On the postive tip, Terre Haute does have potential and can only go up.
Meth is an upper, like cocane. Opioids are downers, like heroin or fentanyl. Both are big problems in Indiana and many people even use both... Very interesting tour!
I was a manager at a small chain supermarket, a third of the part timers were college grads with 85K + in debts . Whereas I , a clove dropout making about 60k before retirement about 15 yrs ago, had no debt ! And other managers who went downstate to Illinois university were paid less due to the fact I was industrious and learned as much as possible on the job making my value as such , those with degrees were asking me how to do gross margins and manage labor costs while maintaining productivity ! Even big chains like jewel were trying to recruit me for the skills I developed due to my determination.
My Dad was in the hospital at both Regional and Union hospitals in Terre Haute in the fall of 2023. The first time I walked into the lobby of regional, there was absolutely no one there. No security guard, no receptionist, no people, nobody. This was in the middle of the day. There were no signs or any instructions so I just got on the elevator and went to his room. When he was at Union hospital the best way I can describe it is what I would think that the Post- apocalypse would feel like. I saw things and heard things there that I’ve never seen before or heard and my Dad will never ever be in the hospital again in Terre Haute for the rest of his life.
i think you are misguided in your thoughts, there is no garbage in the streets and very little graffiti on the buildings, very rare in this day and age, I would not call it a armpit of anything, it looks like a clean city to me.
R u high bro?? Terre Haute fuckin sucks… I was born here but not raised here. My mom side of family and so did my dad’s family, were all raised here. Been back and forth my whole life, to this shit hole place
Very enjoyable, one correction, we did have a Grand Theater but it was downtown, Harmony Hall in Twelve Points used to be the Village (Theater or Cinema, or just The Village)
Hmm. What I see when double checking is that Harmony Hall used to be called Garfield Theater. Not sure if I mentioned Grand Theater in the video. Thanks and glad you enjoyed
Guess you should do more research before you put erroneous information on RUclips, dude... We had ONE strip club in the city, that is now closed. I didn't even bother watching the rest, because if you can't get that correct, then the rest of your retoric is questionable at best. The people who live here may or may not be proud of this city, but you are really pushing it by calling cities you DON'T live in the armpit of the state.
I think you drastically understated the stench that permeated the *entire town* on hot summer evenings. The paper mill on the west side must have been where they buried all the leftovers from the red-light district. 🤢
We always thought it was Commercial Solvents over by the river somewhere. In the 6 yrs we lived there we never investigated. Just believe what the locals said. Gawd it was nasty.
The bad North end neighborhood you show at the beginning , was my old mail route. I carried from 2000 to 2010 and yes it is almost non existing now. Most houses tore down and bought up by Union Hospital or ISU . More decay than growth . Sad for the upcoming generations. I hope the casino and the new mayor can help this place out a little.
I just have to say, your "poorest" zip code area, looked as nice as, what I would consider, our upper middle class area here in S. Alabama. Poverty here is generational and runs deep and wide. Great video content. Thank you.
JMHO, but as a long time Hautean, I believe Chris's video did a nice job of NOT recording some of the worst areas of the city. What he showed was an example of clearing out an area that wasn't nearly as horrible as many other parts of the town.
While I will agree that a lot of this city is old, and could use a facelift, I will also say that you didn't even come close to showing a lot of the newer, cleaner parts of the area. You can go to just about any city and point out all of the negative issues, or lower income areas.
I wish you could review towns in Northern California (Woodland, were I currently reside) and Dallas Ft Worth area (Arlington, were I was formerly from). I had an interest on your channel cuz I used to work in Kokomo, Evansville, and Elkhart as a traveling med professional. Of the 3, I would rank Evansville as my favorite followed by Kokomo and Elkhart third. This was back circa 1992-1993 if I'm not mistaken.
In the early 2000s, Terre Haute was the meth capital in the U.S. Thats what a few local police officers that I worked with told me. As a hotel front desk clerk at the time, we were trained on how to recognize signs of meth users and makers (ie. shake and bakers/ cooks). *We were also trained on how to watch for bombs and suspicious mail when the McVeigh execution was taking place.
The city of West Allis,Wisconsin a suburb of Milwaukee was the original home of the company Allis Chambers. Today the original complex has been converted to stores and renovated apartments. Google map it on S 70th and W Greedield av.
Many of the small cities in Central Indiana look alot like Terre Haute - Anderson Muncie, New Castle, Richmond, Marion, and Kokomo. They've all took a hard hit when so many of the factories closed and no jobs to replace them. They made a good enough living in the factories, there was no need to go to college. I think Terre Haute and Muncie are a little nicer than the others mainly because of Indiana State and Ball State, which went from small teacher's colleges to mid-major universitys.
Ah, Terre Haute: A Level Above (West Terre Haute)! My ex-wife is a native Hooter, and we rented two houses there when we first got married. I recognized the empty lot one house was at (it burned down after we moved out) at around the 9:55 mark. That area of Terre Haute is called the Avenues. Terre Haute, I think, is at its own crossroads. It can either crumble further or rise slowly. Clamping down on the drugs and crime while bringing in decent paying jobs, manufacturing in particular, are key. The problem is that historically, Terre Haute has a bad record on both those issues.
Im currently a terre haute resident 😅and i can tell you the 6th ave dancers bar is dead as in its closed down the terre haute police took over it for training
Second common part 2 now you've got me so fired up I'm actually going to start looking for homes for sale in terre haute that need remodeling so let us all get the ball rolling and start buying real estate and houses in terre haute Indiana
As a former TH resident (worked at TRW in Marshall, IL), I can tell you it is Vee-go. I thought it was a nice town except the Sunday booze laws and the registration cost of a new car. Golf was good, house prices reasonable and mild weather.
Dad came from the TH area . I had to move there for a couple years in the 80's for a job . Met my wife there . We moved out . Her family ended up there . Her dad was a minister and TH was his last charge . Any way my brother in law , I asked him about all the talk of prostitutes , gambling , live sex shows . He told me it was all true ...not in the 30's but the FIFTIES !! He also said there use to be billbords on US$0 that said ... If you can't find it in Vegas you can in Terre Haute . From the people I talked to when I lived there ... all the stories about the sex and gambling are true . They were old enough to have seen it . The cops and mayor were in on it and took a cut from the business and left them alone .
Holy shit. I grew up here. I had no clue it had gotten that bad. People in miami where I live wonder where MAGA came from. They should see this video. When I was a kid in the 50's, it was a nice place.
You could make 4 or 5 videos about Terre Haute and still not cover all of it. Nice job with what you did here, and thanks for defending the colleges. So true.
Chris really enjoyed your commentary on the left and right armpit of Terre Haute you’re the only channel I’ve seen that does a deep dive on historical events which I enjoy just as much more than the scenery Terre Haute didn’t seem too bad to me being retired I wouldn’t give a crap about the workforce looks like quite easy living place and get some Bang for your buck seems like most small American towns are on the shit list these days
More info to add about Terre Haute and having to do with the klan- railroad st from N 13th to 8th Ave was ku klux klan ave before being renamed. I believe the road went from 13th to Ash st at one time which ran along the tracks and at Ash st would be at 15th st and makes sense being at around that time the head quarters for the klan was at 1501 n 15th st
My dad is from Terre Haute; born 1969 and promptly left in 72. My grandma Suzanne worked for Vigo county as well. We are now Daytonians, specifically Kettering, so I think we had a glow up 😅
Not defending the smell that terre haute had, but it was from the creosote factory where they coated railroad ties and paper mill, which was next to the creosote factory. Both have been gone for over a decade.
Also, we've only had 2 strip clubs, one of which just shut down. Sin city was a name that terre haute was called in the early to mid twentieth century when illegal gambling and prostitution was rampant. No worse here, now than any other medium sized city. Not defending, the city still sucks. I only visit, I live in the outskirts of the county in a rural area, so I only shop and go back home.
I live in Illinois but will always have a soft spot for Terre Haute. Some of my best memories come from the cross country race we’d do in Terre Haute. We’d get hotels, stay up till 3am, and race the 5k the next day
Hey I had this crazy idea when high as shit on Adderall. What if a City like say Gary Indiana decided to privatize IU Northwest or Hammond decided to Privatize Purdue Northwest. Provide free admission to local residents and run a free health clinic using university students. All students can live on campus in student housing for a year post graduation and have a free pass on the south shore line to Chicago for jobs. Imagine if Gary decided to buy up some of those abandoned houses and fix em up a bit? Sell em to graduates at cost. Would that be too socialistic of an idea?
The reason Terre Haute was dubbed the armpit was for 3 reasons. All this was within a 1/2 mile radius of each other mind you. We had a paper company that mixed together components for printing paper, a railroad tie company that dipped all railroad ties in a tar mixture, & our waste management facility. From spring to fall it was the absolute worst smell you could imagine. You couldn’t leave your windows open to get a nice breeze due to the stench. & it didn’t matter which side of town you were on, it stunk. I lived a 1/4 mile from all of that for years. I don’t miss that smell. On very hot days if you drive that area you can catch a whiff if you have your windows open in your car.
Another reason for all cities & towns with so many losses in businesses or stores. The emergence of E-commerce. We all knew some day we would be able to get goods cheaper & sent to us instead of going to a brick & mortar store. But every town & city in this country is affected by this. Tack on a struggling economy, families not having money to just go out to the mall & shop a little. 😢
The main reason 12 points has sunken to "slumville" and ran down, there is no real parking areas for shoppers, in the day when it was all clean & shinny, most of the people walked.. Wise man once said SHIT HAPPENES, and that is what happened to 12 points a domino effect.. I still live here..
I live in terre haute, i have since 2010. Moved here from Desloge, Missouri. I don't mind it here, but too much drugs and the poor homeless. 12 points is now revitalized. The old cvs building is now a dollar tree
It has flaws but it could always be worse, The locals seem to hate it here, I moved to Terre Haute from Orlando like ten years ago, that place is an armpit makes Terre Haute look like Paris in comparison.
I’ve lived in 4 different cities in Indiana. Everyone in those 4 cities complained about their hometown equally. Went to a college in Indiana for 4 years where the student body was made up of students who enrolled mostly from small towns spread throughout the state. Everyone always complained about their hometown equally. Maybe it’s an Indiana thing. I agree that Orlando is mostly a dump.
Howdy, I'm a Hoosier from Indiana. I live in Oregon now, but yes I have lived in Terre Haute. You will be surprised to know that I have moved to and moved away from Terre Haute 5 times in my life, starting in 1982 and ending in 2015. Will I ever move back to Terre Haute???? With my track record, I hate to say NEVER, but I've considered it. Why? It's a complex answer. I will say that every time I go back there, I always ask myself why I came back.
There is no strip clubs, there was, but the last one shut down years ago and the building is no longer there "6th Avenue" no longer exists, nor does the building
It just seems like so many American towns have been ruined by the conversion of main streets into really wide highways. I imagine the original intention was to make places you want to go along these routes more accessible, but it’s clearly just made these areas really unpleasant, uninviting places to be. The result is that there’s now very few places along these routes you’d want to go, negating the need for all that road space.
@@ChrisHarden You may be right. I just recall the couple of times I’ve been to the US that a lot of the commercial areas look that way. Don’t get me wrong; the US is often very beautiful. But not the towns and cities.
The Eisenhower Interstate System to facilitate commercial faster and the movement of weapons systems in case of war. The affect being it bombed out most small towns in the US culturally. Bad trade off
Idk maybe 20 yrs ago I was drive thru TH and swear I was on the east side of 41 and north of 70 in a downtown area on 1st Street which intersected with 1st Avenue and I made the comment "Wow we're at the nexus of the universe" as a joke but now looking on google maps I can't find that intercession.........so more like an episode of the Twilight Zone now, lol.
so many mill cities and towns across the midwest and other areas of the USA declined too much. in Hudson massachusetts were I stay it was a mill town but never went that direction restorations and renovation and more homes are being built we are a lower middle income town. more development in all mill towns and cities in my home state are getting investments job opportunities are here depends on what someone is looking for.
Hmmmmm Quit off shoring so many jobs, let people work and things will get better, also encourage strong nuclear families and change who you vote for......
Please tell me what major industries/companies lost jobs to overseas ? A major industry in the area was coal, it was at one time a railroad hub. Also, whst do you mean chsnge who you vote for ? I lived in terre haute and was on the Stste sd-hoc committee for a new parking plan which took in consideration many variables. Please explain yourself.
Hey sh!t for brains...the big reason Greencastle has a higher medium income is because of Great Dane....76% of employees live in the Greencastle area/Putnam County. This info isn't hard to find for most people. Vigo County has historically been one of the poorest counties in Indiana.
Boy are you one angry person. The comment "Quit off shoring jobs" is for the country as a whole. As for change who you vote for is also for the country as a whole as the current administration, "china-biden," and the dem's, don't give a crap about America and the American people. Maybe leave mommy's basement go outside and get some fresh air and sun -- the sun is that bid round shiny thing up in the sky and think about improving your communicating skills.@@daviddennison1787
Hey Chris! Nice work on another one. Here I was thinking outside the big names such as. Chicago Gary and Detroit maybe Benton Harbor or E Cleveland E St Louis that these medium sized midwestern cities large towns were all sunshine cornfields and the Word of God. I guess the decline is hitting everyone. Almost everywhere. And where it isn’t the rich migrants are displacing the paycheck to paycheck locals. I’m going to say as a civilization we need to do more to preserve our country as it is (no politics or blah blah blah intended). We need to take care of our S*** is what I mean.
There's a lot of Terre Haute's throughout Indiana, Ohio and Illinois. Other states too I'm sure. Any small to mid-sized city that once relied on a large factory that once provided thousands of jobs. A lot of the towns had a GM, Ford or Chrysler assembly plant or another auto parts related factory.
i live in ohio and many of our smaller cities are the same. springfield, mansfield, zanesville, etc. the big difference between indiana and ohio is our drug of choice… instead of meth it’s heroin.
@@UserName-ts3sp well all I can say, is as someone who feels trapped by the neverending onslaught of q-tips in Mercedes and Lexus and their kids who don’t look like people around here taking over everything and the price of houses and rent skyrocketing and watching everyone I know suffer, while the low income are shoved aside for continental African non English to receive all the help - Michigan Ohio and W NY look good. I don’t know much about Indiana or Minnesota or Illinois. My families plan is to move to the Detroit area this year, thanks to in part information from Chris.
I live in Indianapolis. What part of the city were you in. ALL Cities have good and bad areas. I live on the Northeast side of Indianapolis off 82nd street and Allisonville road. A very nice area. What city do you live in so I can judge your city?
@@TJIRISH44 The whole city. There is no worthwhile commerce outside of the immediate downtown area and I mean downtown where the statue tower is is pretty. 5 blocks in any direction looks like Dresden after the incendiary bombing. Strip malls over priced bars. It’s a sad pitiful city with nothing important or interesting.
@@davidmartindale2263 You need to get outside downtown and visit the Northeast side of Indianapolis like Broad Ripple. Check out the Mouse Trap Bar in Indianapolis. What City are you comparing Indy to Chicago? Northern Indianapolis is the only area of Indiana outside the Northern part near Lake Michigan I would want to live in Indiana.
I lived in terre haute during school… the town has one strip club and it’s closing. West Terre Haute has one as well. No idea where he got the “more per capita than anywhere in America”.
Kudos to btrull 6018 for responding to this blogger that doesn’t appreciate some of the Country’s Universities in Indiana! But these bloggers are uneducated and cannot comprehend how the whole Country is looking like Third World because of NAFTA etc.
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Going to sound odd but thank you for this I'm a haute native(sorta) been stuck in Topeka which is far worse and been missing home and getting to see my home town and hear some history I didn't know is kinda awesome and helps the home sickness
If you think terre haute is bad now you should have seen it 20 or 30 years ago. It is so much better now and the attitude of the residents has changed towards it. Now there is pride in the city and hope for more prosperity in the future.
I agree. It has turned over. It is still very trashy though. I mean garbage up and down every street,sidewalk,parking lot and park. Trash from one end to the other
Ive lived here 2 years and I really enjoy this city. We do have plenty of areas to improve but its a nice city.
Yet more in-town industries and businesses have closed since 2018, the city is still packed full of parking lots and parking garages, suburban-styled soulless buildings scattered across, the few remnants of the past surviving on their own, surrounded by empty lots, the university slowly taking over the whole town, the city itself hardly existent, corrupt suburb barons building their suburban empires, landlords buying and leaving houses empty and abandoned, and the only prosperity is on the outskirts, where there is no city, where there is no pride.
The city truly only has one or two streets left. And they’re both being eaten by the university. Prosperity? Ha. Future? Ha. The only people moving into this city are blind college students. They will never build anything good anymore in the city itself.
@ tell me you don’t live here without telling me you don’t live here haha. You’re just dead wrong. You should do something else with your time because this isn’t it.
A friend of mine who is also a native Hautian recommended this video to me he said it was " funny " and after watching it ; his comment kinda leaves me scratching my head. First for context ,both he and I grew up in Vigo county him on the south side me one the north end . Both of us graduated high school there and both got our bachelor degrees from ISU in the 80's . Overall I would give this video a B grade for accuracy. I feel from a historical perspective it was pretty solid but some important details were either minimized or glossed over. The importance of the Hulman family in Terre Haute history cant be underestimated, besides renaming of Rose Poly to its current name their imprints are all over the early part of Terre Haute, especially in terms of how the city developed , at one time I believe they owned almost 1/3 of eastern Vigo county and were the richest family in Indiana for decades before the Simon brothers. I also believe they migrated from Cincinnati in the early 1800's to set up their business and who can forget Clabber girl baking powder. I am not sure how you can do a video on Terre haute and forget Eugene V Debbs one of the most important figures in US labor history, you drove about 8 blocks away from his house which is a museum and gives a great glimpse into Terre Haute's rich labor past . Memorial Stadium used to be a horse racing track with the farm and stables on the south side of Wabash ave.
Now on to the more modern era , sadly the areas that you drove through look 10x better than they did 20 or 30 yrs ago. Terre Haute has done a good job trying to demolish and renovate but with dwindling tax base from the loss of the factories and tax revenues there is only so much they can do. For context when I went to high school you could not fit all 4 grades in the high schools and 9th graders were in the Jr highs , with separate sports teams. Prostitution got clamped down on in the 1960's by mayor Tucker ( near the end of his long tenure ) but was still going as my great Uncle worked for one of the madams and had my dad drove the girls between Terre Haute and Joliet, Ill. If you would have driven a a mile or 2 north you would have seen many of the abandoned factories that stated getting down sized or completely shut down in the 90's, like JI Case or Columbia House/ Sony the later employing , I believe , at its peak over 2,000 people. At one time Terre Haute had 420 or so functioning bars/taverns , which was great for shift workers who had a place to drink after work. Strip joints in town have always been few and crap . The horrible smell from the Weston paper factory is gone ( Smelly Haute ) but the tons of railroad tracks remain, though not as busy. Its said Dillinger never robbed a bank in town because he was afraid of getting railroaded on his getaway attempt.
Sadly , I disagree with you on the ability on my hometown being able to fully recover. Its just to easy for large corporations to set up shop in the Indianapolis metro given the interstate system, great airport and miles of farmland that can easily be converted to factories and warehouses. Yes, you are correct, ISU is underrated and many of the guys and gals I graduated with went on to become lawyers, engineers , business men and women .
I learned more from you than from the entire video.
Very well rounded account. I appreciate that, thanks.
Terry hot...terry hut...terre haute has a large population of gypsys but we are not to talk about them...they are the drug mafia of the midwest..lost of drugs. Sex trafficing..high crime rate.dirty water and air.its still sin city.
Enjoyed your post. I was born in Terre Haute and lived there on and off for decades. My grandfather was Superintendent of City Cemeteries, including Highland Lawn, for 20 years under Mayor Tucker. Good people there.
I’m not reading all that. Congrats or sorry that happened to you
I really enjoyed this video. I've heard of Terre Haute, but knew nothing about it. I'm looking forward to part 2.😊❤
I mean, the "bad" parts of this town looked not so bad. It appeared that the old, abandoned homes were removed in those neighborhoods. This town looked like a new community vs. East Cleveland, Detroit, Gary Indiana, and other rust belt cities with the gazzilions of abandoned, run downed homes, and commercial buildings.
Yup. Just looked empty and run down in a lot of areas.
Give the city credit for knocking down the abandoned homes and empty commercial buildings. As your other videos show so nicely; Most cities who've lost a large portion of thier population and tax base don't have the funds to do the clean up on isle 9. I saw someone else's video on a part of Cleveland. Just wow! I felt sorry for the folks who are too poor to leave.@@ChrisHarden
@@warbirdwf even much of Detroit is actually the same now just mostly empty looking but fairly well kept up. The neighborhoods full of abandoned buildings are there too but are now a minority. Terre Haute is just the exception in having now cleaned up most of the ruins nearly throughout the city but many others have made substantial progress. Smaller size is an advantage in that regard.
You obviously haven’t been too many parts of Detroit now, they don’t look anything like this whatsoever, you might want to educate yourself
I remember receiving a lot of packages from Terre Haute when I was young. They had a Columbia House record distribution place. Ten records or tapes for a penny. Then they'd mail you the record of the month for 14.99 unless you sent the card back. I'm sure it's gone now, but I wonder if the building still stands.
Columbia House shut down its Terre Haute facility in 2009 - the year the parent company shut down music mail-order operations. The building stands vacant today.
It is goneI believe. But yes building still stands.
We call it terrible haute.but the king is still Gary.
Nice work! I grew up in West Lafayette--a little island of prosperity and excellence in a sea of drab despair. Hey, Vincennes has a really interesting history and would make a nice video.
One day I'll make a video on Vincennes
Only thing to see in Vincennes is crackheads.
Though this town has seen better days, one thing that stands out as you are traveling through the town. PEOPLE SHOW RESPECT BY PICKING UP TRASH❤️. It’s wonderful to see most areas were TRASH FREE. Compared to Atlanta, Georgia where people stop at a drive thru for lunch. 10 minutes later while at a stop light they roll their windows down and throw out all their trash with no regard to who is going to pick up the trash they were too lazy to dispose of properly themselves.
As a local now in the county to its north - trash is a big issue all over this region. I literally gather trash everywhere I go.
Too many people are lazy and inconsiderate. They take NO pride in their surroundings. If they do, it's for the interior of their vehicle and not wanting their trash to mess it up.
Without a doubt, routes heavily used to get to school are the WORSE in rural areas! That is, when school is in session.
It's an uphill battle. Not even getting into dumped tvs mattresses furniture paint and general trash on every mile of any county road with woods alongside it.
You aren't wrong on a number of things, however, watching this video and actually living here changes my perspective on how other videos like it are produced when shot through the lense of blight and a windshield. Had you stopped long enough to discuss the good, the bad and the ugly with locals you may have been able to present a better, more accurate story but I understand, there's only so much time. TH has one of the best park and trail systems of any city it's size in the country. The Swope museum is ranked by USA today as one of the top 10 art museum in the country in cities under 500k. A lap through the industrial park would have revealed massive operations of newer businesses, some foreign based and around 2 billion in new construction over the last few years. An interesting discussion with our new Mayor, a 27 year old retired Army Ranger and his aggressive agenda moving forward. Almost anything you want within reason is here and any part of town is accessible in a 15-20 minute drive and 500k buys 7k square feet of luxury home in a park setting, almost none of that was revealed just "affordability". Next time you are in the area hit me up and I'll buy lunch, I'm on Facebook.
Hey, I'm born and raised in Terre Haute!! You really should also do a video on Toad Hop and West Terre Haute. Oh, and Terre Haute has a new mayor that is 27 years old! Wow!
Duke Bennet has retired?
Mom & Dad met at & graduated from ISU. Mom's relatives lived & some succeeding gens still live there, so when I was younger we visited fairly often. Dad hated the town... the headache-inducing odors and the RR tracks everywhere that would delay you any time & direction you were going. 5:56 - I remember being stopped at this RR crossing on 41 on our way home, in a time before this overpass was put in.
Wow. Looking at google satellite it's clear the majority of Terre Haute neighborhoods are in large part composed of vacant lots. The city may have lost less then 20% from it's peak but most of it' clearly lost far more, which means the city also anexed and/or sprawled out massively yet still lost residents...
I was born and raised in Terre Haute and graduated from ISU with a degree in English. I now work in PR for a state agency in Louisiana and have published many articles. Thank you, ISU!
You tell them Nephew. Your Uncle Larry graduated from what was Wiley High School 1965, since torn down. I attended ISU for one year, and during the heat of the Vietnam War, I joined the US Navy for 6 years. I returned to live in the south end of Terre Haute from 1978-1985 at US Prison Terre Haute. I transferred to another prison, FCI Otisville, NY. But, Terre Haute has changed over the years in my travels, and with the 27 year old Mayor, appears to be on the upturn with the enthusiasm of its residents.
@@larry-u3e ~ Larry, did you know Evelyn Coakley? She was the Secretary to the Warden at the Federal Penn. She was my Aunt, and she could type 140 wpm, hence the good job 1950's-80's. I lived there from 1955-1983. I remember Wiley, I was at Garfield for it's last year. ps...Thank you for your Service!
Mega bravo Chris!!! Outstanding filming puts one there and your thorough detailed narration explains why the there looks as it does.
Another nice one Chris. As a transplanted Hoosier I'm not gonna lie, I paused the video a 1:04 to see if any of the armpits were too close to where I am!
Where is it that you are?
Bloomington. Fortunately a safe distance from most armpits (but of course we do have our issues).
As a frequent driver of I-70 - from Ohio to Missouri, I have probably gone through Terre Haute over a hundred times in my life and have stopped there a few dozen times. Any time that I have stopped in the town for more than a few minutes - usually for Popeyes and gas, some kinda BS always goes down:
1. My grandpa’s car was totaled as it was set on fire
2. My dad thought that he lost his wallet, so we had to search across downtown until, after 30 minutes, we found it in some weird compartment of our rental car
3. Upon getting kicked out of a bar advertised as a restaurant - I was a kid and was not allowed inside, Siri navigated me and my family to a corn field and told us to “leave the vehicle” while navigating to a different restaurant
4. I nearly became involved in a three way collision car crash at an intersection
5. Generally, THIS TOWN IS BAD LUCK!!!
Wow... yeah that's some bad luck
The one of few strip clubs, 6th Ave just sold out to Union Hospital. Shut the doors for good last year.
Building is now gone.
We called it the armpit back in the '70s when it was bustling. At least they haven't permitted burned out homes to accumulate since then, like in Detroit or Gary. It would help if people in Terre Haute would vote for candidates that promote policies of job growth.
A guy carried his portable meth lab into a White Castle hamburger joint located in Hobart Indiana. The NW corner of the state. Seemed he just wanted to use the restroom and forgot it in there. He came back looking for it and it went from there. Police, newspaper so forth.
The World's largest chemical company desired to construct a large OEM automotive coating facility in Terra Haute in 1987 - 1989. Local wealthy residents and union activists fought to keep them out - the chemical company was not unionized in the US and the high proposed wages for employees would have upset the lower prevailing wage in Terra Haute/Vigo County. That chemical company gave up and moved to the cornfields of Ohio and built the plant, hired and trained locals there, and pay them to this day more than double that local prevailing wage. An golden opportunity missed by Terra Haute some 35+ years ago.
Economic issues were not the only factor. The effects of chemical pollution were also involved.
@@gmaneiswould be interesting to see how that element has played out for their eventual location in Ohio. Unfortunately the odds are probably high the environmental impact has proven very low to non existent.
That company was BASF. That was a great loss for the city. They wanted to build it on the south side of town near where the majority of the wealthiest residents live.
AHA the real reason. That rich southern TH tax base reared its ugly head.
Great drone shots! I think one of the best things about the city is the colleges. The city should figure out a way to keep those engineers once they graduate. On the postive tip, Terre Haute does have potential and can only go up.
I agree, both of the main colleges in Terre Haute are doing really well despite the cities struggles
The Oklahoma City bomber (Timothy McVeigh) was executed at USP Terre Haute.
Meth is an upper, like cocane. Opioids are downers, like heroin or fentanyl. Both are big problems in Indiana and many people even use both... Very interesting tour!
I was a manager at a small chain supermarket, a third of the part timers were college grads with 85K + in debts . Whereas I , a clove dropout making about 60k before retirement about 15 yrs ago, had no debt ! And other managers who went downstate to Illinois university were paid less due to the fact I was industrious and learned as much as possible on the job making my value as such , those with degrees were asking me how to do gross margins and manage labor costs while maintaining productivity ! Even big chains like jewel were trying to recruit me for the skills I developed due to my determination.
My Dad was in the hospital at both Regional and Union hospitals in Terre Haute in the fall of 2023. The first time I walked into the lobby of regional, there was absolutely no one there. No security guard, no receptionist, no people, nobody. This was in the middle of the day. There were no signs or any instructions so I just got on the elevator and went to his room. When he was at Union hospital the best way I can describe it is what I would think that the Post- apocalypse would feel like. I saw things and heard things there that I’ve never seen before or heard and my Dad will never ever be in the hospital again in Terre Haute for the rest of his life.
The reson for the city's downfall rests squarely on the fact that they werent told that the letter "H" is silent in French.
i think you are misguided in your thoughts, there is no garbage in the streets and very little graffiti on the buildings, very rare in this day and age, I would not call it a armpit of anything, it looks like a clean city to me.
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R u high bro?? Terre Haute fuckin sucks… I was born here but not raised here. My mom side of family and so did my dad’s family, were all raised here. Been back and forth my whole life, to this shit hole place
Great job buddy 👍
Very enjoyable, one correction, we did have a Grand Theater but it was downtown, Harmony Hall in Twelve Points used to be the Village (Theater or Cinema, or just The Village)
Hmm. What I see when double checking is that Harmony Hall used to be called Garfield Theater. Not sure if I mentioned Grand Theater in the video. Thanks and glad you enjoyed
The Grand is the Scottish Rite, I believe (I could be wrong, it's been a bit since I've been there).
@@ChrisHarden It was the Village Theater for a while. I lived a block from it in the early '80's.
Stayed at Larry Birds Boston Connection hotel in mid 80s. Very nice back then. He even had a Ford dealership then.
Guess you should do more research before you put erroneous information on RUclips, dude... We had ONE strip club in the city, that is now closed. I didn't even bother watching the rest, because if you can't get that correct, then the rest of your retoric is questionable at best. The people who live here may or may not be proud of this city, but you are really pushing it by calling cities you DON'T live in the armpit of the state.
I think you drastically understated the stench that permeated the *entire town* on hot summer evenings.
The paper mill on the west side must have been where they buried all the leftovers from the red-light district.
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There used to be a creosote plant there also, producing treated railroad ties. This was a VERY smelly operation too.
Terre Haute: queen city of the Wabash Valley and home to more highly offensive odors per acre than 90% of U.S. cities.
We always thought it was Commercial Solvents over by the river somewhere. In the 6 yrs we lived there we never investigated. Just believe what the locals said. Gawd it was nasty.
The bad North end neighborhood you show at the beginning , was my old mail route. I carried from 2000 to 2010 and yes it is almost non existing now. Most houses tore down and bought up by Union Hospital or ISU . More decay than growth . Sad for the upcoming generations. I hope the casino and the new mayor can help this place out a little.
I just have to say, your "poorest" zip code area, looked as nice as, what I would consider, our upper middle class area here in S. Alabama. Poverty here is generational and runs deep and wide. Great video content. Thank you.
JMHO, but as a long time Hautean, I believe Chris's video did a nice job of NOT recording some of the worst areas of the city. What he showed was an example of clearing out an area that wasn't nearly as horrible as many other parts of the town.
While I will agree that a lot of this city is old, and could use a facelift, I will also say that you didn't even come close to showing a lot of the newer, cleaner parts of the area. You can go to just about any city and point out all of the negative issues, or lower income areas.
I wish you could review towns in Northern California (Woodland, were I currently reside) and Dallas Ft Worth area (Arlington, were I was formerly from). I had an interest on your channel cuz I used to work in Kokomo, Evansville, and Elkhart as a traveling med professional. Of the 3, I would rank Evansville as my favorite followed by Kokomo and Elkhart third. This was back circa 1992-1993 if I'm not mistaken.
In the early 2000s, Terre Haute was the meth capital in the U.S. Thats what a few local police officers that I worked with told me.
As a hotel front desk clerk at the time, we were trained on how to recognize signs of meth users and makers (ie. shake and bakers/ cooks).
*We were also trained on how to watch for bombs and suspicious mail when the McVeigh execution was taking place.
The city of West Allis,Wisconsin a suburb of Milwaukee was the original home of the company Allis Chambers.
Today the original complex has been converted to stores and renovated apartments. Google map it on S 70th and W Greedield av.
"Nothing but the dead and dying back in my little town..."
Many of the small cities in Central Indiana look alot like Terre Haute - Anderson Muncie, New Castle, Richmond, Marion, and Kokomo. They've all took a hard hit when so many of the factories closed and no jobs to replace them. They made a good enough living in the factories, there was no need to go to college. I think Terre Haute and Muncie are a little nicer than the others mainly because of Indiana State and Ball State, which went from small teacher's colleges to mid-major universitys.
Personally I’d pick Terre Haute over Muncie. Kokomo over both. Richmond over Muncie.
So many people work on line, remote now.
Ah, Terre Haute: A Level Above (West Terre Haute)! My ex-wife is a native Hooter, and we rented two houses there when we first got married. I recognized the empty lot one house was at (it burned down after we moved out) at around the 9:55 mark. That area of Terre Haute is called the Avenues.
Terre Haute, I think, is at its own crossroads. It can either crumble further or rise slowly. Clamping down on the drugs and crime while bringing in decent paying jobs, manufacturing in particular, are key. The problem is that historically, Terre Haute has a bad record on both those issues.
Im currently a terre haute resident 😅and i can tell you the 6th ave dancers bar is dead as in its closed down the terre haute police took over it for training
I heard it burned down.
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P.S. I was told Encino was the Armpit of California
The "armpit of America" belongs to places like Camden NJ, Jackson MS, or Newark NJ.
Second common part 2 now you've got me so fired up I'm actually going to start looking for homes for sale in terre haute that need remodeling so let us all get the ball rolling and start buying real estate and houses in terre haute Indiana
As a former TH resident (worked at TRW in Marshall, IL), I can tell you it is Vee-go. I thought it was a nice town except the Sunday booze laws and the registration cost of a new car. Golf was good, house prices reasonable and mild weather.
I was just in Terre Haute visiting ISU with my daughter. It’s a nice school and nice campus. I hope she goes there
Terre Haute's the first place I lived in when I immigrated to the US. I'm kind of offended!
Eh, i find it funny. I’ve lived here my whole life. Sorry this had to be your first city in the US!
Dad came from the TH area . I had to move there for a couple years in the 80's for a job . Met my wife there . We moved out . Her family ended up there . Her dad was a minister and TH was his last charge . Any way my brother in law , I asked him about all the talk of prostitutes , gambling , live sex shows . He told me it was all true ...not in the 30's but the FIFTIES !! He also said there use to be billbords on US$0 that said ... If you can't find it in Vegas you can in Terre Haute . From the people I talked to when I lived there ... all the stories about the sex and gambling are true . They were old enough to have seen it . The cops and mayor were in on it and took a cut from the business and left them alone .
That place looks so well manicured without trees.
The decline began when I-70 was built.
Tommy John did not go to North HS, he went to Gerstmeyer (in the late 50s)... North's most famous alum is "Ant" Anthony Thompson (football star)
The 93pc acceptance rate is significant in that ISU is one of the leading 'first generation college grad' schools in the nation .that's important
Holy shit. I grew up here. I had no clue it had gotten that bad. People in miami where I live wonder where MAGA came from. They should see this video. When I was a kid in the 50's, it was a nice place.
You could make 4 or 5 videos about Terre Haute and still not cover all of it. Nice job with what you did here, and thanks for defending the colleges. So true.
Chris really enjoyed your commentary on the left and right armpit of Terre Haute you’re the only channel I’ve seen that does a deep dive on historical events which I enjoy just as much more than the scenery Terre Haute didn’t seem too bad to me being retired I wouldn’t give a crap about the workforce looks like quite easy living place and get some Bang for your buck seems like most small American towns are on the shit list these days
More info to add about Terre Haute and having to do with the klan- railroad st from N 13th to 8th Ave was ku klux klan ave before being renamed. I believe the road went from 13th to Ash st at one time which ran along the tracks and at Ash st would be at 15th st and makes sense being at around that time the head quarters for the klan was at 1501 n 15th st
My dad is from Terre Haute; born 1969 and promptly left in 72. My grandma Suzanne worked for Vigo county as well. We are now Daytonians, specifically Kettering, so I think we had a glow up 😅
Not defending the smell that terre haute had, but it was from the creosote factory where they coated railroad ties and paper mill, which was next to the creosote factory. Both have been gone for over a decade.
Also, we've only had 2 strip clubs, one of which just shut down. Sin city was a name that terre haute was called in the early to mid twentieth century when illegal gambling and prostitution was rampant. No worse here, now than any other medium sized city. Not defending, the city still sucks. I only visit, I live in the outskirts of the county in a rural area, so I only shop and go back home.
I live in Illinois but will always have a soft spot for Terre Haute. Some of my best memories come from the cross country race we’d do in Terre Haute. We’d get hotels, stay up till 3am, and race the 5k the next day
Any Democrat city can be classified as the arm pit.
I never had any bad experiences in terre haute. There is a racetrack south of town.
At the Fairgrounds. The Action track. Lots of history and famous drivers raced there!
The mall is almost non-existent
Hey I had this crazy idea when high as shit on Adderall. What if a City like say Gary Indiana decided to privatize IU Northwest or Hammond decided to Privatize Purdue Northwest. Provide free admission to local residents and run a free health clinic using university students. All students can live on campus in student housing for a year post graduation and have a free pass on the south shore line to Chicago for jobs. Imagine if Gary decided to buy up some of those abandoned houses and fix em up a bit? Sell em to graduates at cost. Would that be too socialistic of an idea?
I was an undergraduate at ISU back in the mid '80s. Is the mall, The Crossroads, still around ?
Tell other people who watch the that’s from Terre Haute including me, we’ll make a come back
So what area of town would you recommend for an Air BNB to visit college students at Rose or ISU?
The reason Terre Haute was dubbed the armpit was for 3 reasons. All this was within a 1/2 mile radius of each other mind you. We had a paper company that mixed together components for printing paper, a railroad tie company that dipped all railroad ties in a tar mixture, & our waste management facility. From spring to fall it was the absolute worst smell you could imagine. You couldn’t leave your windows open to get a nice breeze due to the stench. & it didn’t matter which side of town you were on, it stunk. I lived a 1/4 mile from all of that for years. I don’t miss that smell. On very hot days if you drive that area you can catch a whiff if you have your windows open in your car.
Another reason for all cities & towns with so many losses in businesses or stores. The emergence of E-commerce. We all knew some day we would be able to get goods cheaper & sent to us instead of going to a brick & mortar store. But every town & city in this country is affected by this. Tack on a struggling economy, families not having money to just go out to the mall & shop a little. 😢
I have family in Terre Haute, I actually love going to visit there… Little old fashioned looking but always a good time
The main reason 12 points has sunken to "slumville" and ran down, there is no real parking areas for shoppers, in the day when it was all clean & shinny, most of the people walked.. Wise man once said SHIT HAPPENES, and that is what happened to 12 points a domino effect.. I still live here..
I live in terre haute, i have since 2010. Moved here from Desloge, Missouri. I don't mind it here, but too much drugs and the poor homeless. 12 points is now revitalized. The old cvs building is now a dollar tree
It has flaws but it could always be worse, The locals seem to hate it here, I moved to Terre Haute from Orlando like ten years ago, that place is an armpit makes Terre Haute look like Paris in comparison.
I’ve lived in 4 different cities in Indiana. Everyone in those 4 cities complained about their hometown equally. Went to a college in Indiana for 4 years where the student body was made up of students who enrolled mostly from small towns spread throughout the state. Everyone always complained about their hometown equally. Maybe it’s an Indiana thing.
I agree that Orlando is mostly a dump.
My family moved from Lakeland, Florida, to Terre Haute,India, and they love it there in Indiana.
Howdy, I'm a Hoosier from Indiana. I live in Oregon now, but yes I have lived in Terre Haute. You will be surprised to know that I have moved to and moved away from Terre Haute 5 times in my life, starting in 1982 and ending in 2015. Will I ever move back to Terre Haute???? With my track record, I hate to say NEVER, but I've considered it. Why? It's a complex answer. I will say that every time I go back there, I always ask myself why I came back.
I see you didnt drive to either one of our Industriak parks
There is no strip clubs, there was, but the last one shut down years ago and the building is no longer there "6th Avenue" no longer exists, nor does the building
It just seems like so many American towns have been ruined by the conversion of main streets into really wide highways. I imagine the original intention was to make places you want to go along these routes more accessible, but it’s clearly just made these areas really unpleasant, uninviting places to be. The result is that there’s now very few places along these routes you’d want to go, negating the need for all that road space.
Are you talking about the 6 lane US-41/3rd street that slightly bypasses the core of Downtown to the west?
@@ChrisHarden You may be right. I just recall the couple of times I’ve been to the US that a lot of the commercial areas look that way. Don’t get me wrong; the US is often very beautiful. But not the towns and cities.
The Eisenhower Interstate System to facilitate commercial faster and the movement of weapons systems in case of war. The affect being it bombed out most small towns in the US culturally. Bad trade off
Thanks for visiting Terre Haute!
Did you really label Evansville as an armpit on the map in the beginning? It’s far from an armpit.
They have Boot City.
I can think of 10 cities in Indiana that's way worse than Terre Haute (Terry Hoe)
Born and raised and still live in Terre Haute! I love my little home town..if you don't live here, you know NOTHING about us so don't speak on us!!!
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Bicknell, Indiana should be considered.
Looked it up. Seems like a good place to do a video on honestly.
Very interesting!
I grew up in the area! A lot of locals and other people who live nearby call it “Turd Haute!”
Terre Haute: The city with a thousand nicknames.
its kinda weird watching a video of the same roads i drive daily
South Bend has been declining for 60 years. In fact much of the US is becomming 2nd world with some areas more like 3rd world countries.
Idk maybe 20 yrs ago I was drive thru TH and swear I was on the east side of 41 and north of 70 in a downtown area on 1st Street which intersected with 1st Avenue and I made the comment "Wow we're at the nexus of the universe" as a joke but now looking on google maps I can't find that intercession.........so more like an episode of the Twilight Zone now, lol.
I grew up about an hour north of there
So I knew you did your research when you used “the dirty haute” aka the dirty 👌🏻. Terrible haute too😂😂😂
so many mill cities and towns across the midwest and other areas of the USA declined too much. in Hudson massachusetts were I stay it was a mill town but never went that direction restorations and renovation and more homes are being built we are a lower middle income town. more development in all mill towns and cities in my home state are getting investments job opportunities are here depends on what someone is looking for.
Hmmmmm Quit off shoring so many jobs, let people work and things will get better, also encourage strong nuclear families and change who you vote for......
Agree.
Please tell me what major industries/companies lost jobs to overseas ? A major industry in the area was coal, it was at one time a railroad hub. Also, whst do you mean chsnge who you vote for ? I lived in terre haute and was on the Stste sd-hoc committee for a new parking plan which took in consideration many variables. Please explain yourself.
Hey sh!t for brains...the big reason Greencastle has a higher medium income is because of Great Dane....76% of employees live in the Greencastle area/Putnam County. This info isn't hard to find for most people. Vigo County has historically been one of the poorest counties in Indiana.
Boy are you one angry person. The comment "Quit off shoring jobs" is for the country as a whole. As for change who you vote for is also for the country as a whole as the current administration, "china-biden," and the dem's, don't give a crap about America and the American people. Maybe leave mommy's basement go outside and get some fresh air and sun -- the sun is that bid round shiny thing up in the sky and think about improving your communicating skills.@@daviddennison1787
Off shore jobs cuz US workers gets like 5 times the pay as other countries.
Hey Chris! Nice work on another one. Here I was thinking outside the big names such as. Chicago Gary and Detroit maybe Benton Harbor or E Cleveland E St Louis that these medium sized midwestern cities large towns were all sunshine cornfields and the Word of God. I guess the decline is hitting everyone. Almost everywhere. And where it isn’t the rich migrants are displacing the paycheck to paycheck locals. I’m going to say as a civilization we need to do more to preserve our country as it is (no politics or blah blah blah intended). We need to take care of our S*** is what I mean.
There's a lot of Terre Haute's throughout Indiana, Ohio and Illinois. Other states too I'm sure. Any small to mid-sized city that once relied on a large factory that once provided thousands of jobs. A lot of the towns had a GM, Ford or Chrysler assembly plant or another auto parts related factory.
i live in ohio and many of our smaller cities are the same. springfield, mansfield, zanesville, etc. the big difference between indiana and ohio is our drug of choice… instead of meth it’s heroin.
@@UserName-ts3sp well all I can say, is as someone who feels trapped by the neverending onslaught of q-tips in Mercedes and Lexus and their kids who don’t look like people around here taking over everything and the price of houses and rent skyrocketing and watching everyone I know suffer, while the low income are shoved aside for continental African non English to receive all the help - Michigan Ohio and W NY look good. I don’t know much about Indiana or Minnesota or Illinois. My families plan is to move to the Detroit area this year, thanks to in part information from Chris.
@@AlexanderWaylon detroit is a good place to start. good luck
The ahole of a state is the worst but probably not an acceptable term. I’d rate Gary as the ahole of Indiana and far worse than Terre Haute.
Terra Haute is a nice town. I used to pass through there on my way to various service calls
It really isn’t too bad especially in the downtown parts. Been living here my whole life, never had any issues or anything.
Was in Indianapolis for a week. That’s a pit
I live in Indianapolis. What part of the city were you in. ALL Cities have good and bad areas. I live on the Northeast side of Indianapolis off 82nd street and Allisonville road. A very nice area. What city do you live in so I can judge your city?
@@TJIRISH44 The whole city. There is no worthwhile commerce outside of the immediate downtown area and I mean downtown where the statue tower is is pretty. 5 blocks in any direction looks like Dresden after the incendiary bombing. Strip malls over priced bars. It’s a sad pitiful city with nothing important or interesting.
@@davidmartindale2263 You need to get outside downtown and visit the Northeast side of Indianapolis like Broad Ripple. Check out the Mouse Trap Bar in Indianapolis. What City are you comparing Indy to Chicago? Northern Indianapolis is the only area of Indiana outside the Northern part near Lake Michigan I would want to live in Indiana.
I lived in terre haute during school… the town has one strip club and it’s closing. West Terre Haute has one as well. No idea where he got the “more per capita than anywhere in America”.
I was born there and lived and worked at union hospital nice vibes
Capitalism giveth and capitalism taketh away
Kudos to btrull 6018 for responding to this blogger that doesn’t appreciate some of the Country’s Universities in Indiana! But these bloggers are uneducated and cannot comprehend how the whole Country is looking like Third World because of NAFTA etc.