I am 57 and got back into golf after 25 years off (only played about 50 times before that). After 4 lessons, I still had power struggles, but more importantly I could NOT get an inside-out swing no matter how many drills we did or how many videos we watched. Today, 5th lesson, my instructor said we really need to focus on the turn...only about 60* noticed. We worked on the turn and although the power was not quite there yet (because of club face), EVERY single shot was inside to out..even the miss-hits. They say you cant go from slice to good golf, but from slice to pull/hook to straight. That's fine..It was so cool to see so many consecutive inside-out swings WITH draw spin "over hook". The Should turn in my opinion, does more than just power. Im going to watch some more of your videos Clay! Excellent job!
I'm sitting in the same situation. I started last year after 12 years out of the game. I am glad to come off on this video clip to turn the shoulders and hips. I'll just keep on practicing!! ⛳️ 🏌️♂️
I saw this video while back. But I was only hitting my drives around 260 with a short turn. But when I saw your video I went out and started working on full shoulder turn and it was hard but I finally got it down. Now my drives are averaging 305 to 310. And i am 60 years old. But I have professional playing experience. We are never too good to listen to great advice. Thanks
I have had a dreadful 2019, the driver has been slicing and I have lost a lot of holes to that slice. Now I have started to get that full shoulder turn and the ball started to go straighter and a lot longer. I live in Sweden so we have winter now but no snow yet so I can still play some golf. Just want to say thank you and you are now the only golf instructor I listen to. You save my day, my golf. Thanks
I’m an 11 handicap working towards single digits. The main thing holding me back right now is the sporadic slice of the driver into the trees leading to double bogeys. A friend noticed my shoulders not rotating enough and when I focus on rotating more I get good results but it feels forced and uncomfortable and I don’t trust the swing. After watching your video on lifting you left heal to help turn more it really resonated with me. I went to The driving range today and out of a large bucket a ball only lost about four or five to the right. That is a huge improvement over what I had been doing. What is even better is it is simple to execute and simple to remember. I’m very excited and feel like this might be the silver bullet I was looking for. Can’t wait to go try it tomorrow on the course when I play with some friends.
Since I have been watching your videos, my game has improved. Thumbs Up.One of the Great golf teacher. I need you to assist me with my downswing transition. I tend to rush and head up just immediately coming into contact with the Ball.
Great content. I’m a Top Speed Golf client. Q is my online coach and I’m loving it so far. Already added some distance to my game. Now I’m working on getting a bit more control. Can’t wait to get to the range and try this. Keep up the good work!
Hey Clay, I just finished reading Ben Hogan's "Five Lessons" and he says you need to keep that back foot square because if you angle it back like you're advising, you get too much hip swing/weight backwards, which can cause all kinds of issues issues with your swing. Are you advising people to do this only if they can't get their shoulder blades pointed towards the target in the backswing? I've found that I do get into a lot of trouble with consistency when I flare that back foot out.
Hi, I advise that anyone who is struggling with distance or looking for more distance flare the foot out. People generally don't flare the foot because it's more comfortable and/or more aesthetic. I haven't ever seen an issue with it. You may have issues because it's uncomfortable and/or there might be a little placebo effect going on :-). Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Clay ..this great for a big turn..very good video..I added the leg foot just coming off the ground slightly to create a full turn..found I am hitting farther with less effort..thanks again
Your shoulders will be turning on a tilted plane. If you turn on a level plane with the ground then you'll be standing up out of your posture most likely. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Hi there. I did a good full shoulder turn behind the ball without lifting my left heel because I'm very flexible but coming down, why my club hit onto the ground? Is it because I didn't shift my weight to the left during transition? How do I start my downswing as soon as I complete my full shoulder turn? Thank you very much, your video is great!
It's hard to say without seeing a swing. The downswing starts with the lower body and then the shoulders and the arms follow. Here is a video that should help: ruclips.net/video/fgZd1puxsCY/видео.html Best of luck! Nate | TSG Instructor
I have had both hips replaced, within three weeks of one another and still of a fairly young age 55ish, therefore the ability to turn the hips as I use to is definitely diminished and thus distance particularly on the driver. With that said, after becoming frustrated with the diminished distance, one day on the range an epiphany occurred; that if I (I am a righted handed golfer) moved my right foot straight back a half to a full foot that my shoulder turn was then dramatically increased and I found some of my old distance back!! So like Quentin’s rear foot pointed out set-up, which I initially tried and yes it did help to some degree, the bringing of the rear foot straight back allows for even more shoulder turn. One does have to make sure they stay behind the ball, as this set-up is somewhat similar to a draw and therefore have to control such not becoming a hook; and as you emphasize finishing is a must. But for those who the foot turn out is still not sufficing the amount of shoulder turn, due to “significant” lack of hip mobility, my I suggest to the readers/subscribers; the bring the rear foot backward approach. Just a little FYI for anyone interested and with severely hip(s) restrictions. Best regards,
Thanks! Yes, you want to get a full shoulder turn with all clubs that you're taking a full swing with. Some are more aggressive with the driver but if you struggle with distance across the board then do it with all clubs. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Clay - I've been making only 45 degree turn with my shoulders and also struggle shifting my weight forward in my down swing. As a result I usually come over the top of the ball (out to in path) so even with good contact I get a slice (or with short irons a fade). Other times it's a chunk or skull. When I really focus on making a full turn (hips and shoulders) and get my hands high at the top of my swing, aside from the added power I also seem to make a much better weight shift and the ball flies straighter. So my question: does making full turn enable a better weight shift and also a proper inside path to the ball?
Hi Andy, it certainly can. If you have a really short turn then you can tend to rush the downswing which is what sounds like is going on here. When you rush the downswing, it can lead to over the top and poor contact. It seems very clear that you should work to ingrain a full shoulder turn. I would recommend working through the Power Turn course on the website. Here is the link to sign up for the membership: topspeedgolf.com/get-access-to-all-golf-courses/. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Hi, you can do it for all clubs. If you're struggling with distance across the board then I would for sure. Francesco Molinari does and it saved his career. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Great videos. Quick question; I would consider myself good shape and pretty athletic, however I’ve had ACL surgery on both my knees and typically my knees are sore after playing golf. Is there a way to swing and minimize the amount of torque on my knees?
Thanks Cameron. Yeah, I would recommend setting up with your feet flared out. Let your lead heel come off the ground in the backswing. Let your lead foot turn out in the downswing. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
One thing about the shoulder turn, those with arthritis in their neck may be able to make a 90 degree shoulder turn, but it will cause the head to rotate away from the ball to the point of losing sight of the ball. That is an issue that causes me to shorten my turn. By the time I’ve reacquired sight of the ball I am well into the downswing and subsequently mishit a lot of shots.
258 compact. i get 258 when everything is perfect and blast it really 220 ish when i just hit good, pretty hard.. Ive broken 300 with some luck of the run out but its super rare.
Hey Richard, everyone is different. The things that help Clay go from 258 to 300 are going to help you go from 220 to 260. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Hi, you can do it for all clubs. If you're struggling with distance across the board then I would for sure. Francesco Molinari does and it saved his career. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Just found this. Problem I have often is lateral shift of my head/upper body. Flaring foot out and taking a bigger turn seems to exasperate this issue.
Clay- I know this is an older video, but i am swinging about 75 or so, having a hard time adding much power at all, i get what i think is an okay shoulder turn, definitely not enough, but i wonder why my speed is so low. Im young and not too stiff so unsure. I can create a draw or fade when i want to and feel like my swing is decent, but just slow. Any tips?
Hey, if you're' looking for more speed and distance then I recommend working through our 20 Minute Distance Fix program. People of all ages and abilities are gaining tons of distance on this program. See what our members are saying about it here: topspeedgolf.com/20-minute-distance-fix-success-stories/. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Pro teaching swing lead by lower body with weight shift. Golfers probblem is harmony of upper body and lower body. Please teach how to make just meeting swing .
NECK rotation - that is the limiting factor. Most people can not rotate their necks over their shoulder blades to see the ball in a full backswing. That means the backswing is half what Clay can do. Not hips limiting them - NECK.
Hi, try the tips in the video. If you still can't get a full shoulder turn then there may be a physical limitation there. Best of luck! Quentin | TSG Instructor
The more I turn my shoulders...the straighter and farther the ball goes. The easiest way to turn the shoulders is to turn the hips...it almost feels like a baseball swing...where the club goes around your body, not up and down.
Great description, at least that's how I think of it. To a previous comment, I too have been keeping my right foot square to the target line so I'll now try flaring it out to the right a little.
I understand exactly what you are saying and I agree, particularly with driver I do this motion.....It is around the body swing. However I have to say that there is a vertical motion as well, meaning arms go up. Otherwise one is too depth back inside with your arms...Just want to share my thoughts....
Hi Tony, that's a great goal. I would recommend working through our 20 Minute Distance Fix course. See what our members are saying about it: topspeedgolf.com/20-minute-distance-fix-success-stories/. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Hi Matt, you're still getting that "x factor" but getting a big shoulder turn too. It does bust the myth that you should restrict the hips which is where that whole x factor thing came from. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
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I am 57 and got back into golf after 25 years off (only played about 50 times before that). After 4 lessons, I still had power struggles, but more importantly I could NOT get an inside-out swing no matter how many drills we did or how many videos we watched. Today, 5th lesson, my instructor said we really need to focus on the turn...only about 60* noticed. We worked on the turn and although the power was not quite there yet (because of club face), EVERY single shot was inside to out..even the miss-hits. They say you cant go from slice to good golf, but from slice to pull/hook to straight. That's fine..It was so cool to see so many consecutive inside-out swings WITH draw spin "over hook". The Should turn in my opinion, does more than just power. Im going to watch some more of your videos Clay! Excellent job!
I'm sitting in the same situation. I started last year after 12 years out of the game. I am glad to come off on this video clip to turn the shoulders and hips. I'll just keep on practicing!! ⛳️ 🏌️♂️
I saw this video while back. But I was only hitting my drives around 260 with a short turn. But when I saw your video I went out and started working on full shoulder turn and it was hard but I finally got it down. Now my drives are averaging 305 to 310. And i am 60 years old. But I have professional playing experience. We are never too good to listen to great advice. Thanks
My pleasure! Keep up the good work!
I have had a dreadful 2019, the driver has been slicing and I have lost a lot of holes to that slice. Now I have started to get that full shoulder turn and the ball started to go straighter and a lot longer. I live in Sweden so we have winter now but no snow yet so I can still play some golf. Just want to say thank you and you are now the only golf instructor I listen to. You save my day, my golf. Thanks
That's great Martin! Thanks for sharing. Keep up the good shooting! Quentin | TSG Instructor
I’m an 11 handicap working towards single digits. The main thing holding me back right now is the sporadic slice of the driver into the trees leading to double bogeys. A friend noticed my shoulders not rotating enough and when I focus on rotating more I get good results but it feels forced and uncomfortable and I don’t trust the swing. After watching your video on lifting you left heal to help turn more it really resonated with me. I went to The driving range today and out of a large bucket a ball only lost about four or five to the right. That is a huge improvement over what I had been doing. What is even better is it is simple to execute and simple to remember. I’m very excited and feel like this might be the silver bullet I was looking for. Can’t wait to go try it tomorrow on the course when I play with some friends.
The essence. I appreciate the explanation. The internal femur rotation is key.
My pleasure!
Since I have been watching your videos, my game has improved. Thumbs Up.One of the Great golf teacher. I need you to assist me with my downswing transition. I tend to rush and head up just immediately coming into contact with the Ball.
Here's a video that should help: ruclips.net/video/olmhaWTgJ1M/видео.html Play well! Nate | TSG Instructor
Great content. I’m a Top Speed Golf client. Q is my online coach and I’m loving it so far. Already added some distance to my game. Now I’m working on getting a bit more control. Can’t wait to get to the range and try this. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Raymond!
Hey Clay, I just finished reading Ben Hogan's "Five Lessons" and he says you need to keep that back foot square because if you angle it back like you're advising, you get too much hip swing/weight backwards, which can cause all kinds of issues issues with your swing. Are you advising people to do this only if they can't get their shoulder blades pointed towards the target in the backswing? I've found that I do get into a lot of trouble with consistency when I flare that back foot out.
Hi, I advise that anyone who is struggling with distance or looking for more distance flare the foot out. People generally don't flare the foot because it's more comfortable and/or more aesthetic. I haven't ever seen an issue with it. You may have issues because it's uncomfortable and/or there might be a little placebo effect going on :-). Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Thank you Clay
My pleasure!
Clay ..this great for a big turn..very good video..I added the leg foot just coming off the ground slightly to create a full turn..found I am hitting farther with less effort..thanks again
Thanks Edward! Glad you enjoyed to video and hit helped. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Your shoulders will be turning on a tilted plane. If you turn on a level plane with the ground then you'll be standing up out of your posture most likely. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Thanks so much, this helped me out a lot
Glad it helped!
Pga pros like rahm and finau have a straight right foot
Love the idea of opening up the stance with the right foot....Will definitely try it ...Thanks!🍻
My pleasure Mark! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Great stuff.Wonder if this would apply to 3wood and other clubs🤔
Great tips! I do have one question at address though. When lining up to the ball do you advise keeping the weight on your toes or heel?
Thanks Brian! You should be pretty balanced. The pressure should be even throughout your feet. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Any thoughts on the trueturnpro??
Thanks
Hi there. I did a good full shoulder turn behind the ball without lifting my left heel because I'm very flexible but coming down, why my club hit onto the ground? Is it because I didn't shift my weight to the left during transition? How do I start my downswing as soon as I complete my full shoulder turn? Thank you very much, your video is great!
It's hard to say without seeing a swing. The downswing starts with the lower body and then the shoulders and the arms follow. Here is a video that should help: ruclips.net/video/fgZd1puxsCY/видео.html Best of luck! Nate | TSG Instructor
U r also giving a lot of tennis tips. What r u really good at? Golf or tennis?
Both 😎 Probably better at golf.
Another great video, thank you Clay 🏌️
My pleasure!
I have had both hips replaced, within three weeks of one another and still of a fairly young age 55ish, therefore the ability to turn the hips as I use to is definitely diminished and thus distance particularly on the driver. With that said, after becoming frustrated with the diminished distance, one day on the range an epiphany occurred; that if I (I am a righted handed golfer) moved my right foot straight back a half to a full foot that my shoulder turn was then dramatically increased and I found some of my old distance back!! So like Quentin’s rear foot pointed out set-up, which I initially tried and yes it did help to some degree, the bringing of the rear foot straight back allows for even more shoulder turn. One does have to make sure they stay behind the ball, as this set-up is somewhat similar to a draw and therefore have to control such not becoming a hook; and as you emphasize finishing is a must. But for those who the foot turn out is still not sufficing the amount of shoulder turn, due to “significant” lack of hip mobility, my I suggest to the readers/subscribers; the bring the rear foot backward approach. Just a little FYI for anyone interested and with severely hip(s) restrictions.
Best regards,
Hi Herm, thanks for sharing. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor
This is terrific. I have done the drills and it feels great!
Thanks Hugh! Play well, Quentin | TSG Instructor
Hugh Vail I did the same. Amazing what a little foot turn can do.
Really enjoyed the video do you recommend this with irons also or just driver
Thanks! Yes, you want to get a full shoulder turn with all clubs that you're taking a full swing with. Some are more aggressive with the driver but if you struggle with distance across the board then do it with all clubs. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Happy New Year to you all from Denmark. There is a lock down on most golf courses here until March so keep those videos coming 😄👍
Thanks Kim!
I think this just might change my life. Cant wait to practice this.
Clay - I've been making only 45 degree turn with my shoulders and also struggle shifting my weight forward in my down swing. As a result I usually come over the top of the ball (out to in path) so even with good contact I get a slice (or with short irons a fade). Other times it's a chunk or skull. When I really focus on making a full turn (hips and shoulders) and get my hands high at the top of my swing, aside from the added power I also seem to make a much better weight shift and the ball flies straighter. So my question: does making full turn enable a better weight shift and also a proper inside path to the ball?
Hi Andy, it certainly can. If you have a really short turn then you can tend to rush the downswing which is what sounds like is going on here. When you rush the downswing, it can lead to over the top and poor contact. It seems very clear that you should work to ingrain a full shoulder turn. I would recommend working through the Power Turn course on the website. Here is the link to sign up for the membership: topspeedgolf.com/get-access-to-all-golf-courses/. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Great video. Does when raise the left foot an inch and flare the right foot for all the clubs or just the when driving?
Hi, you can do it for all clubs. If you're struggling with distance across the board then I would for sure. Francesco Molinari does and it saved his career. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Great videos. Quick question; I would consider myself good shape and pretty athletic, however I’ve had ACL surgery on both my knees and typically my knees are sore after playing golf. Is there a way to swing and minimize the amount of torque on my knees?
Thanks Cameron. Yeah, I would recommend setting up with your feet flared out. Let your lead heel come off the ground in the backswing. Let your lead foot turn out in the downswing. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Sounds awsome that G410 @ 3.00, I love your videos Clay, do you have any on course management to lower your score or to play better. Cheers.
Thanks John! Yeah, we do have some. Just search our channel
Do you offer in person lessons??
One thing about the shoulder turn, those with arthritis in their neck may be able to make a 90 degree shoulder turn, but it will cause the head to rotate away from the ball to the point of losing sight of the ball. That is an issue that causes me to shorten my turn. By the time I’ve reacquired sight of the ball I am well into the downswing and subsequently mishit a lot of shots.
So if I flare the right foot I can get that extra turn thank you guys
You're welcome! Thank you for watching.
can you lift leg and and flare foot on a iron swing?
Yes
Great video, just makes you want to get out and try it
Thanks Garry! Quentin | TSG Instructor
258 compact. i get 258 when everything is perfect and blast it really 220 ish when i just hit good, pretty hard.. Ive broken 300 with some luck of the run out but its super rare.
Hey Richard, everyone is different. The things that help Clay go from 258 to 300 are going to help you go from 220 to 260. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Is this for driver only or for irons too?
Hi, you can do it for all clubs. If you're struggling with distance across the board then I would for sure. Francesco Molinari does and it saved his career. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Just found this. Problem I have often is lateral shift of my head/upper body. Flaring foot out and taking a bigger turn seems to exasperate this issue.
That's great!
Clay- I know this is an older video, but i am swinging about 75 or so, having a hard time adding much power at all, i get what i think is an okay shoulder turn, definitely not enough, but i wonder why my speed is so low. Im young and not too stiff so unsure. I can create a draw or fade when i want to and feel like my swing is decent, but just slow. Any tips?
Hey, if you're' looking for more speed and distance then I recommend working through our 20 Minute Distance Fix program. People of all ages and abilities are gaining tons of distance on this program. See what our members are saying about it here: topspeedgolf.com/20-minute-distance-fix-success-stories/. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Pro teaching swing lead by lower body with weight shift. Golfers probblem is harmony of upper body and lower body. Please teach
how to make just meeting swing .
Hi, I would recommend checking out our Top Speed Golf System. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
I hit way far doing that, I saw that in other video of yours long time ago
That's great! Thanks for sharing. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
NECK rotation - that is the limiting factor. Most people can not rotate their necks over their shoulder blades to see the ball in a full backswing. That means the backswing is half what Clay can do. Not hips limiting them - NECK.
Thanks for sharing!
Right foot is my problem exactly
Hope the tips help. Best of luck! Quentin | TSG Instructor
I'm struggling to turn my shoulder at the moment :
Hi, try the tips in the video. If you still can't get a full shoulder turn then there may be a physical limitation there. Best of luck! Quentin | TSG Instructor
The more I turn my shoulders...the straighter and farther the ball goes. The easiest way to turn the shoulders is to turn the hips...it almost feels like a baseball swing...where the club goes around your body, not up and down.
Hi, thanks for sharing. There are a lot of similarities between a baseball and golf swing. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Great description, at least that's how I think of it. To a previous comment, I too have been keeping my right foot square to the target line so I'll now try flaring it out to the right a little.
I understand exactly what you are saying and I agree, particularly with driver I do this motion.....It is around the body swing. However I have to say that there is a vertical motion as well, meaning arms go up. Otherwise one is too depth back inside with your arms...Just want to share my thoughts....
I make a great shoulder turn, but the club is nowhere close to parallel. Stiff wrists, lats
Hi Marv, that's okay. You do what you're capable of. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
My goal this year is more speed
Hi Tony, that's a great goal. I would recommend working through our 20 Minute Distance Fix course. See what our members are saying about it: topspeedgolf.com/20-minute-distance-fix-success-stories/. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Kinda busts the X factor myth.
Hi Matt, you're still getting that "x factor" but getting a big shoulder turn too. It does bust the myth that you should restrict the hips which is where that whole x factor thing came from. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Great tips, your hat is infuriating.
Thanks Ronnie!