First thing I noticed. I figured this guy would have his facts right since he’s been covering this story for quite a while. I’ve only been following this from a distance and I knew right away that was the tail section and the craft did not have a nosecone anything like what’s pictured
The reason the hull had a high aspect ratio (compared to the traditional spherical) is it holds more people. His entire objective was tours of the wreck. Tough to make a buck doing that when you can only take one or two passengers at a time. The overlap with aviation involves only that aspect.
Well, we have plenty of submarines that are of course cylindrical. They just can't go so deep. Rush was free to make a titanium cylinder and try that, but he was too cheap. He even used a view port that was nowhere near as strong as it should have been for reaching the Titanic.
Thank you Nick for covering these hearings. Very important lesson to be learned. Someone like Stockton should never be allowed to get away with what he did. Sad & devastating those onboard with him don’t do their due diligence on him before they got on board with him. With the kind of funds they had available I’m surprised they didn’t vet him more & the whole idea/if it was even safe.
They had all the warnings and the clever so called engineer who designed the contraption was just too thick to notice them Let me explain. On every dive, the descent time decreased, SO WHY. Well obviously the contraption was getting heavier, SO WHY. the only and obvious answer was that the additional weight was water. This is what happened. Firstly, it was the epoxy that has the compression strength, the carbon fibre was literally a waste of space, since its only strength is tensile. By winding with the carbon fibre, rather than moulding, the epoxy was full of tiny air bubbles. On the first descent, due to the increasing pressure, the outer layer of these bubbles collapsed, shattering the epoxy like crazed toughened glass and a sort of structural stability was formed. Then during the ascent, as the pressure decreased, the volume of the original air bubbles filled with water. FIRST INCREASE IN WEIGHT. On the second dive, since water does not compress with a drop in volume, the pressure collapsed a further layer of air bubbles, so during the ascent these filled with water. SECOND INCREASE IN WEIGHT. And so on and so on. Leaving layer by layer of the epoxy with the tensile strength of a soggy sponge. On the final dive, someone either farted or dropped their pen and that was that. How Stocktan did not see these warnings and carry out ultrasonic tests on the hull defies belief. Believe it or not, I have never been inside either a metal or plastic submarine in my entire life. But I am a retired chartered engineer, with years of experience on industrial pressure vessels.
What use are protocols when someone thinks he is smarter than everyone else. Apparently people are willing to take the risk going onboard and pay a lot of money doing so.
Billionaire hubris. It sounds to me like Stockton had never accepted that he was an outlier in regards to basic _luck_, which often happens. People who find themselves living highly fortunate lives tend to put it down to certain factors such as being particularly blessed by God or the gods, or “blood”, i.e. being part of a particularly high quality family. But in a republic like the USA, people often also assume and get highly invested in the idea that they are smarter and better workers and that they “make their own luck”, so they are just better at life all around. And the very rich are not at all in contact with people who struggle at any real depth, so the reality of everyday struggles of ordinary people don’t reach them. They live in a bubble of good luck, lose touch with reality and like Icarus sometimes come crashing down to earth - or the seabed in this case. This whole event is a 21st century Icarus story. The fact that Stockton gave his sub a name from Greek mythology that was ironic only goes to show how superficial he really was.
I think people have a hard time accepting something would be allowed if it’s not safe… probably the same people who believe everything you see on tv. 🤷🏻♀
SR is 100 at fault. He ran off every single person who disagreed, or identified safety issues. He was the boss. Nobody could over ride his say in a matter.
Arrogant $*#&%. Wanted the glory and money, and had no concept of the amount of work or attention to detail that was required. Where is Dr. Ian Malcolm when we need him?
Oh I think he had a concept of the amount of work needed, he just didn't care and decided to cut corners because he was 100% motivated by greed and fame. He was the worst kind of narcissist.
@MindbodyMedic just considering a shockwave close to the bow of the titanic. It was there before the implosion and gone after. But whatever. Think what you want.
I don't store my cheap bikes outdoors, yet they kept the vessel in a parking lot...? Definitely different standards than us reg folks. But couldn't they at least get a barn or something for it? It can't break the bank, can it? Maybe they were that heavily in debt...
I think they made it a tube to fit more customers in. They had two hemispheres of titanium at each end, if they had just used a similar sized titanium sphere one person may have dived safely, but theres no money in that.
Believe what you are describing as the nosecone of the Titan submersible on the sea bottom actually is the tail (mechanical) end. If memory serves speculation was porthole nose blown off, and never recovered. PMc
Why the obsession with the last moments? It was a craft destined to fail at sometime or other. Badly designed, built with the wrong material and several people who criticised its conception and construction. Several potential passengers logically refused to descend in it as being unsafe. Those who were onboard at the time of the disaster refused to accept the obvious and predicted danger and paid the ultimate sacrifice.
Watch the latest update on the yacht report ( formally esysman superyachts ) on the bayesian incident- and what's in the safes on board the yacht - much much more to investigate on this story .
They knew that there were problems and they heard noises.There were alarms going off So there was panic I don't think they thought they were going to die
3:55 - Stockton was from aeronautics, made titan to look like a fuselage or missile That's a good observation Stockton was a narcissist and made titan look phallic
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That wasn't the nose cone in the photo. It was the tail cone.
yep this video is full of errors i wont be back.
Maybe that’s a metaphor for where Rush had his head stuck…🤭
@@goodmanuni09 yes, the tail faring. Faring rather than cone.
At like 5:30 he circles the part and we are all on the same page on what section was in the pic
First thing I noticed. I figured this guy would have his facts right since he’s been covering this story for quite a while. I’ve only been following this from a distance and I knew right away that was the tail section and the craft did not have a nosecone anything like what’s pictured
I’ve been so eager for the Titan hearings. Please keep on covering them! Thank you.
Likewise ‼️😇🙏
I think Stockton willfully ignored safety concerns, the hubris is staggering.
What a nightmare! 🫣
The reason the hull had a high aspect ratio (compared to the traditional spherical) is it holds more people. His entire objective was tours of the wreck. Tough to make a buck doing that when you can only take one or two passengers at a time. The overlap with aviation involves only that aspect.
Well, we have plenty of submarines that are of course cylindrical. They just can't go so deep. Rush was free to make a titanium cylinder and try that, but he was too cheap. He even used a view port that was nowhere near as strong as it should have been for reaching the Titanic.
“…I told him, I’m NOT gettin’ in it!”
Says it all right there😢
Actually shocked that Stockton’s wife is not one of the people to testify. She was involved on the missions and probably knows him the most.
@@Revoncheap She has been protected all along and as one of the Director of the company, she should made to testify and cross examined.
Thank you Nick for covering these hearings. Very important lesson to be learned. Someone like Stockton should never be allowed to get away with what he did. Sad & devastating those onboard with him don’t do their due diligence on him before they got on board with him. With the kind of funds they had available I’m surprised they didn’t vet him more & the whole idea/if it was even safe.
They had all the warnings and the clever so called engineer who designed the contraption was just too thick to notice them
Let me explain.
On every dive, the descent time decreased, SO WHY. Well obviously the contraption was getting heavier, SO WHY. the only and obvious answer was that the additional weight was water.
This is what happened.
Firstly, it was the epoxy that has the compression strength, the carbon fibre was literally a waste of space, since its only strength is tensile.
By winding with the carbon fibre, rather than moulding, the epoxy was full of tiny air bubbles.
On the first descent, due to the increasing pressure, the outer layer of these bubbles collapsed, shattering the epoxy like crazed toughened glass and a sort of structural stability was formed.
Then during the ascent, as the pressure decreased, the volume of the original air bubbles filled with water.
FIRST INCREASE IN WEIGHT.
On the second dive, since water does not compress with a drop in volume, the pressure collapsed a further layer of air bubbles, so during the ascent these filled with water.
SECOND INCREASE IN WEIGHT.
And so on and so on. Leaving layer by layer of the epoxy with the tensile strength of a soggy sponge.
On the final dive, someone either farted or dropped their pen and that was that.
How Stocktan did not see these warnings and carry out ultrasonic tests on the hull defies belief.
Believe it or not, I have never been inside either a metal or plastic submarine in my entire life. But I am a retired chartered engineer, with years of experience on industrial pressure vessels.
What use are protocols when someone thinks he is smarter than everyone else.
Apparently people are willing to take the risk going onboard and pay a lot of money doing so.
Billionaire hubris. It sounds to me like Stockton had never accepted that he was an outlier in regards to basic _luck_, which often happens. People who find themselves living highly fortunate lives tend to put it down to certain factors such as being particularly blessed by God or the gods, or “blood”, i.e. being part of a particularly high quality family. But in a republic like the USA, people often also assume and get highly invested in the idea that they are smarter and better workers and that they “make their own luck”, so they are just better at life all around. And the very rich are not at all in contact with people who struggle at any real depth, so the reality of everyday struggles of ordinary people don’t reach them. They live in a bubble of good luck, lose touch with reality and like Icarus sometimes come crashing down to earth - or the seabed in this case. This whole event is a 21st century Icarus story. The fact that Stockton gave his sub a name from Greek mythology that was ironic only goes to show how superficial he really was.
I think people have a hard time accepting something would be allowed if it’s not safe… probably the same people who believe everything you see on tv. 🤷🏻♀
$ / IQ Ratio!
@@JadeS-ww7sr Bingo! Too much faith in the authorities.
Please keep doing these Titan videos! ❤💯
The titan did 90 dives with less than 13 completed dives
How ironic that the Titanic was more suited for underwater use than that Titan contraption.
SR is 100 at fault. He ran off every single person who disagreed, or identified safety issues. He was the boss. Nobody could over ride his say in a matter.
Thanks. This guy can be described by 1 word: hubris. And a game controller system?? No THANKS! ❤
Arrogant $*#&%. Wanted the glory and money, and had no concept of the amount of work or attention to detail that was required. Where is Dr. Ian Malcolm when we need him?
Oh I think he had a concept of the amount of work needed, he just didn't care and decided to cut corners because he was 100% motivated by greed and fame. He was the worst kind of narcissist.
Tail cone or tail fairing, not nose cone.
I think the Titan implosion caused the rail on the Titanic's bow to break off at its hinges. Would make sense. Love this channel!!
Absolute nonsense
@MindbodyMedic just considering a shockwave close to the bow of the titanic. It was there before the implosion and gone after. But whatever. Think what you want.
Source?
Why would the rail have hinges?
@@incandescentwithrage because it was a swing gate used for loading. It was not just a solid rail.
Thanks!
Nick, please sir. The section of the titan you call the “nose cone” is actually called the tail cone. Thank you for the great videos
yes that's right, thanks
10:30 "Forward dome fell off during recovery" !!!
I feel the 4 bolts are the cherries on top .
I don't store my cheap bikes outdoors, yet they kept the vessel in a parking lot...? Definitely different standards than us reg folks. But couldn't they at least get a barn or something for it? It can't break the bank, can it? Maybe they were that heavily in debt...
I think they made it a tube to fit more customers in. They had two hemispheres of titanium at each end, if they had just used a similar sized titanium sphere one person may have dived safely, but theres no money in that.
He could have tried a thick titanium cylinder, but didn't want to spend the money.
Believe what you are describing as the nosecone of the Titan submersible on the sea bottom actually is the tail (mechanical) end. If memory serves speculation was porthole nose blown off, and never recovered. PMc
Tail cone not nose cone.
Why the obsession with the last moments? It was a craft destined to fail at sometime or other. Badly designed, built with the wrong material and several people who criticised its conception and construction. Several potential passengers logically refused to descend in it as being unsafe. Those who were onboard at the time of the disaster refused to accept the obvious and predicted danger and paid the ultimate sacrifice.
@@williamgeorgefraser people obsess over mortality. Morbid curiosity.
The view-port was apparently not rated for anything close to the depth of the Titanic.
Thank you for this Nick
Tony Nissen was the guy in the video who glued the sub togeheter with the rings..
You can't glue carbon fibre to titanium
Thanks
"attempts to RUSH the testing process" - unintended play on words I assume
Nice summary.
It literally is the tail cone, is labeled as tail cone, and you keep calling it a nose cone. . .
Coastguard knew everything sosus
Watch the latest update on the yacht report ( formally esysman superyachts ) on the bayesian incident- and what's in the safes on board the yacht - much much more to investigate on this story .
They knew that there were problems and they heard noises.There were alarms going off So there was panic I don't think they thought they were going to die
11:56 "absconded" is the wrong word. You mean "neglected" or "failed in".
Abrogated.
@@GWNorth-db8vn Yes! Even better
Was it ever exposed to freezing temperatures? Any moisture in the matrix will expand when freezes, and disrupt load paths.
That's not what "absconded" means....
Wow...
Stockton was stuck on some buoyancy to pressure ration but d
3:55 - Stockton was from aeronautics, made titan to look like a fuselage or missile
That's a good observation
Stockton was a narcissist and made titan look phallic
Tail cone.
❤
Tail cone…not nose cone
I hate dishonest click bait.
Elongated, sausage shaped design not suitable? You mean like a nuclear submarine and every other submarine?
But most of those are limited to about 1000m or less. Titan was going to near 4000m.
There's a reason why none of those submarines have been to Titanic.
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Rotten day at work