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Go for ESR, is cheapest but the best of both world. The compromise is acceptable, but able to use wireless, use in both vertical and horizontal, and the floating form is a big plus.
A thing to take into account is that the Logitech Combo Touch after months of using it, the case around the speakers start to detach and it looks gross. A lot of people seem to have this issue
Been using the Magic Keyboard since the M4 came out and the Logitech just arrived in the mail. Now trying to decide which one to keep lol. The typing experience of the MK + detachable keyboard would be the absolute best
@@AlexVassiosOfficial I was recently facing the same dilemma. Ultimately made the same choice; magic keyboard just works better for me, since my ipad is moving around all over the place, not just nice clean desks. I feel like if the Logitech had an actual hinge on the keyboard for stability, I might have stuck with it instead.
I finish ordered ESR iPad keyboard. Thank you for review those product and helped me decide to buy. I watch so many videos and find it so helpful. So thank you. I can’t wait to to use this product on my new iPad Pro m4 :-).
@@ThomasLaschenI love it, I got it after a few videos and the only downside is it is heavy…. but the keyboard lasts FOREVER, and it FEELS like a laptop due to the weight and materials. Having a case even when you remove the iPad cannot be downplayed. It has colors. My favorite color is purple (specifically lilac/lavender) so I am very happy to have a purple “laptop” Overall, the price and value is unmatched. And I have had BOTH of the other cases. I returned them. I love my ESR.
Thanks for your comparison review. I purchased the Apple Magic Keyboard (Black) for my 13” iPad Pro M4 but wasn’t satisfied with it, as it was too top heavy and unstable if I was using the iPad touch screen. It also offers no protection of the iPad outside of the case. Plus you cannot use it in portrait mode. Fingerprints on the Apple black case were also an issue. I returned the Apple Magic Keyboard and replaced it with the ESR 360 case, which is much more suitable for my use, plus substantially cheaper to purchase. The ESR is heavier, but much more stable, especially if wanting to use in laptop mode. Cheers.
👍 thanks for sharing your experience. Good to hear from another user about the ESR 360. Seems Apple missed the mark on the MK this go around. Top heavy seems to be what I hear as well, and I think users are willing to tolerate that for the experience.
Thanks for the detailed comparison! I went with the ESR for my M2 iPad Air as I wanted a fully protected/enclosed case, vertical orientation option, a pencil holder, and usability on an airplane tray table.
The main down part for the ESR keyboard is no haptic feedback trackpad. Otherwise the portrait mode with extra protection can make it arguably more useful than the Magic Keyboard.
This is a very good point. It does move so it has feedback to click. No question to me that it’s more useful than the Magic Keyboard in most ways. But I think the overall weight and size is why some people would lean toward Apple.
Very good comparison! I went with the Apple Magic Keyboard. I've used the older Logitech version on my previous M1 iPad Pro. I did like it but the angle flap made it impossible to use with any comfort on the lap. Furthermore the on desk profile with extended flap made it quite a space hog. I am glad that Logitech seems to have fixed the mounting frame that used to stretch out after a few installs in the frame (I like to use other folios for my iPad).
I haven’t tried to take off the case on my Logitech keyboard, but I can imagine the frame stretching. I had that issue in a few spots with the first case I had. I returned it with my Best Buy warranty, as the keyboard stopped working. Haven’t had any issues with my replacement. I do slightly worry about the rubber stretching, so I’m careful when handling the case. It’s not too big a deal, as with my Magic Keyboard, I handle that with care too. There’s no protection around the iPad itself.
Logitech Combo Touch....all the way.....today i recieved the package from Logitech store.....Im sending apple magic keyboard back to retail shop......no doubt
I returned my Magic Keyboard as I thought it was the same as previous they just added minor new things to it but the price is ridiculous. Gonna order the Logitech one
I’ve had the Logitech for my 12.9” m1 iPad for years, and it’s great. I got the Magic Keyboard for my new m4 iPad, mostly because I wanted a change. I do agree with the video that only being able to use the Logitech on a table is a downside. I like the fabric-like feel of the case, however if you want the most upscale look, the magic keyboard is best. One thing I love about the Logitech is that it has a case for the iPad. When you detach it from the keyboard, it’s protected. If you want to just use it on your bed to watch a video, or just to take it around your home for example, it’s protected. You have to be very careful when taking the iPad off the Magic Keyboard, as there’s no protection whatsoever. Combined with the iPad being so thin, it can be a concern for those a little rough in their electronics.
i got the pro yesterday, after this review, i’ve realised the pass through charging in the apple keyboard is invaluable, so it proved previously, so it continues.
Also on the hunt for something light ....I often have to fold the keyboard back and use the ipad as a tablet while standing....for that, nobody wants a floppy, thick mess that you have to juggle while using the Pencil. The ORIGINAL Apple keyboard for the 1st gen iPad pro was wonder...no trackpad, but it disappeared when folded behind the device. would like something like that.
When I switch ipad I probably get the Logitech only thing I seen that I want more on it was a protection for the Apple Pencil so it doesn’t fall off like esr have but I rather have the rest of the Logitech when esr
I have the logitec, and the only positive is the ability to disconnect and use it with out the keyboard. But the size of the keyboard and the pad is very weird.
Good video! It helped me a lot. Thanks! Can you please tell me if the ESR keyboard trackpad is as good as the one from Apple? I've heard of too many unwanted clicks when using it...
My main issue with the magic keyboard is the lack of a cradle leaving the iPad with no protection. One hip brush against that thing and it will go flying.
Great video and comparison. I originally went for the Logitech Combo keyboard, but then saw the ESR video and decided to order one from Amazon. Although it does add a bit of heft and thickness, I do love the viewing angle it provides and the ability to change it from horizontal to vertical viewing. The downside (for me) is that I have the 11 inch version and it doesn’t come with a dedicated function key row. I also like that you can use the keyboard when it's not attached to the iPad itself - another plus AND when it’s detached from the keyboard, there is protection for the iPad in the form of the case (the Logitech offers that as well). The other bonus for me is that fact that it has a magnetic cover to keep the stylus in place. I have the ESR and Apple pencil and while the Apple pencil has a better magnet, it is still prone to falling off the iPad, so that flap will come in handy. I didn’t even think once about considering the Apple magic keyboard b/c, well it’s just not that magical to me. Sure, it’s beautiful and sleek, but I like the fact that both the ESR and Logitech offer some protection of the iPad when it’s not attached to the keyboard. And there is not $200 of quality difference in the Apple keyboard.
I had a bad experience with ESR on iPad Pro 11 M4. Had to replace it 4 times and eventually gave up for my work iPad. The track pad is terrible. You constantly have to keep tapping to trigger a click. Unless you tap right in the middle. I did like the Logitech but the stand stinks and the price is close to Magic Keyboard. Ultimately went for Magic Keyboard. It’s unbelievable.
perfect solution for me would be a keyboard like the one on the iPad 10, detachable but magnetic (also like Samsung ones...) Lacking that I alternative Magic Keyboard and Magnetic folio
I prefer more travel like a desktop type and like the flap to keep the Pencil safe. What I don’t see is small rubber bumpers to stop the iPad from touching the keyboard. Which is best for that part? My old 10.5”iPad Pro had a Brydge Bluetooth keyboard with the bumpers and I never got any marks from the keyboard on the iPad.
Hi! Thanks for the video. I use my iPad laying down on the couch and I need to tilt the display at 90 degrees or even less. Would this case support the iPad this way or would it snap off the magnetic stand?
Excellent video, no filler and very informative. I’m torn between the Magic Keyboard and the ESR… Could you please measure the thickness for both with the iPad in place so I can have an idea of how they stack up against each other?
Just ordered one from looking at your review, a few things you mentioned that are not in the description on Amazon, removeable, vertical, oozing forward to its arrival later today
Does the ESR trackpad work as well as the Logitech and Apple Keyboard? I believe Apple allowed Logitech to use the same drivers as their magic keyboard but Logitech had to pay Apple for it. Its the only concern I have with the ESR trackpad. Can you confirm?
I have the ESR 360 with ipad Air 13in M2 for the last couple weeks and everything works good overall. I had the Logitech combo touch case on my 11in ipad and it worked well the main issue was not great using on lap but did like the built in stand if detached from the keyboard. The ESR case weight is a concern, it is pretty heavy, almost 400gms (13oz) more that the other two and when you lug it around in your backpack you notice it.
Great review!! Thanks a lot 😊 I would just wonder if the apple option is too top heavy. Ive been inclining towards the esr because of all the comments about that and wanted to know your thoughts on this. Other than that seems like apple’s is the best, but would definitely be a deal breaker if it’s tipping over all the time or I can’t use it confidently because of that. Thanks again!!
I dropped my iPad yesterday and the Magic Keyboard provides zero protection for any drops. I now have a permanent scuff on the edge tat quite rough and visible.
I am thinking I like everything you said about the ESR Magnetic Keyboard Case 360 rather than spending the $$ to go Apple again. Can you tell me the exact name of this one for an IPad Pro 13”. I don’t want to buy the wrong one. Thank you!!
Thanks for the comparison. I went with the ESR although I note that they had two models that suit the 12.9 inch iPad Pro so I hope I chose wisely. Cheers
With the ESR keyboard, if I were to take the iPad out of the case with the keyboard still connected via Bluetooth, Are you able to fold the top part of the case under the keyboard? (For a more traditional keyboard and trackpad experience in case I were to dock the ipad somewhere)
Great video. I've tried all 3, and went with Logitech because it's a thin keyboard that is fun to use, feels like a real laptop (absent the kick stand), has pass through charging, and most importantly, a protective case (and built-in stand) that allows you to safely use the ipad independently. It's not as pretty as the MK, but since the MK doesn't have a protective case, it's a matter of time before I drop my ipad. I loved the ESR at first, but it was so bulky that it felt like a Chromebook from 10 years ago. If I'm buying a thin, sleek ipad, I don't want a plastic-feeling keyboard case that's an inch thick when closed. Ideally, if ESR made a thinner, sleeker keyboard with pass-through charging with a modest price increase, it would be the best, since they have a great protective case included. It would still need to have some weight to stabilize from tip-overs, but I'm honestly more concerned with the thickness than weight. So overall, I think the Logitech is the best of both worlds: a design that complements the ipad and a keyboard that feels like it's worth the investment. It looks like a real laptop when closed (rather than a closed-book design), and I personally don't have any problem using it on my lap. Plus, having a detachable keyboard makes it feel more innovative. If the Logitech is too expensive, go with the ESR "Ascend" series. It's very similar, thinner than the Rebound, and half the price of the LT.
I have tried many keyboard , the best is still apple keyboard why is smooth and good . Try logictech combo is so so and also try though Bluetooth keyboard is the most horrible , it has delay in response and keep on charging the keyboard .
Great video! One question : i own the previous combo touch and planned on upgrading from the M1 to the M4 iPad. Would the combo touch still be compatible or should i also upgrade the keyboard? The MK s way too overpriced and don’t protect the device at all
Idk anyone here experienced this but the logitech combo touch in older generations (mine is iPad Air 2020) is not that good. And i’ve used 2 of them (i got a faulty unit in the first one, and replaced it. So i cycled through 2 different units of this keyboard case.) and both have this same issue: the trackpad. The trackpad would randomly just “disconnect”. Suddenly just loses connection. And i would need to tap on a random key to “jolt” it back. And when it does come back, the scrolling becomes staggered; the screen only moves after i lift my fingers up. And to revert the scrolling back to instantaneous, i have to detach and reattach the keyboard. And also, it is a chore to lug around the entire ipad with the keyboard all the time. Every single time i wanna use my ipad, i have to find a big empty surface to rest my ipad because the combo touch requires quite a big surface area to sit on, then for the keyboard to open and lay flat, 2 hands for the hinge to prop up, and then also 2 hands to detach the keyboard. So on the go? It’s just not a very pleasant experience. It’s a very 2-hand operation. Sure, magic keyboard sounds like a great idea; my friend used it and doesnt seem to have the trackpad problem. And it definitely requires a smaller surface to prop up. But you cant use the ipad without the magic keyboard, not at least you find a separate stand for the ipad itself after detaching it. Part of the appeal of the logi combo touch was that the ipad could still have a stand (and previous magic keyboard also didnt have a row of function keys. Now they do.) The higher end ipad’s keyboard solutions from Apple are just weird, if not frustrating. Whilst i think their entry ipad 10th gen’s keyboard solution from themselves is great; a magnetic flap at the back without casing makes the whole contraption much less bulky while simultaneously acting as a stand, and detachable keyboard with the pogo pins situated at the bottom of the ipad, instead of at the back of the ipad air and pro. Sure, it doesnt solve the issue of using a big surface to get the whole ipad propped up, but having a stand on an ipad is almost more important than anything else in the ipad accessories space. No solution is perfect, but i think the 10th gen’s Magic Keyboard Folio is as close as it gets.
best in order Apple MK, ESR, then Logitech. Logitech weakness is how it stands, can’t stand on any hard surfaces. Apple MK is not case cover so when you take it off to use it’s protected. Sometimes I feel like apple wants you to damage the product to buy again.
Edit: No ESR for me as they are not available with Nordic layout. :-( Since the Logitech Slim Folio Pro is no longer made I will probably try the ESR simply because it matters a lot to have large keys and to sit away from a table using it. I miss a good alternative that keeps itself solidy up and with no trackpad as I dislike using them anyway.
If your tablet is for mostly media consumption having a tablet that can detach from the keyboard and still be able to stand is a huge luxury. But the best value is ESR. The MK is for aesthetics and for working…but I have a MacBook. 🤷🏾♂️
@@VittorTech Thank you for your quick response. After reviewing the photos of both, I do see your point. Rethinking my question, I believe a protective laminated glass should protect the screen from keyboard damage. This is my first time viewing your channel, your approach is thorough and expain well. It looks like I am leaning toward the Apple solution.
I own both Magic Keyboard and the combo touch. I can’t believe the people choosing the lg, it feels so inferior quality wise, especially the keyboard itself. The buttons, the overall build, absolutely everything feels superior on the MK. The construction itself feels much more solid on the Magic Keyboard, it feels like a genuine laptop. The combo touch feels just like what it is: a tablet keyboard with a stand.
Bro are you dumb, no one spending $400 on a dumb keyboard that has no protection and if it breaks good luck and also you can’t turn off the keyboard, and it will ALWAYS, drain ur battery even when ur not using it
And before u call me a broke boy, I ain’t spending a extra $400 just for typing and the only game u can play in Minecraft with that keyboard, and plus the iPad Pro m4 11 inch is expensive enough
The ESR keyboard case in the link is not the same one as your are showing in the video. Yours has function keys; the one in the link does not. Do you have a link to the one that will match yours?
❤Apple MK is amazing, fit and function perfect. I mean this thing looks so slick. The biggest negative is cost and the minor negative is it’s not fully protected.
I find it strange that you didn’t say any negative things about the ESR. Maybe cuz they gave you the case? The main cons is the weight and needing to charge it separately. But instead of saying those, you made them both sound like pros. To focus on how you can use the esr keyboard even when it is not plugged in as a feature instead of focusing on the con that you need to remember to charge it. And how it’s great to be heavy so it doesn’t tip over instead of saying it’s way heavier than the other two
Worth noting though I’m also excited by the ESR Rebound: 2024 model is the only iPad for which ESR does not offer a white case. If you click “other options” on the Amazon page it jumps to a case for prior models, which won’t fit. I went to their official website and it says “two colors” but they’re both black (surprise!) and the difference is US vs UK layout. Also because of the lighting here it looks like a steel blue, so it’s closer to gray (grey? ; ) than black, and like the “space black” iPad will show smudges more easily than white would, which is why I got silver. I think the design is superior to others I’ve seen but color matters when you’re using rubber materials in my opinion. The white color is teased at the end of the trailer but there’s no mention of when it will be available if ever 😂 Maybe a ploy to sell what they expect to be the less popular color first, I wonder why they do this to us.
wow, you should reaaaallly turn off auto exposure if it makes the entire video turn from brightly over exposed to dark in an instant depending on whats on the ipad screen that your showing….
Great clear & comprehensive comparison. I'm glad you dissed the extending kick stand on the Logitech. I used Logi's 'Create' keyboard for years for my M1 iPad. It smartly propped up on it's magnetic pass through strip, so no kickstand needed. Logi discontinued the 'Create' and appear to be disinterested in reintroducing this design. But since the whole progression of Apple is to make the iPad more & more LAP-top-like, why offer only a kickstand-supported case which feels AWFUL on your LAP?? It's unstable on your thighs, it bounces around as you type, and does anybody but me mind the bottom edge of the kickstand digging into your thighs...ouch! This seems so obvious as to make me wonder how Logitech's design team can miss this and be so...IlLogical.
Hello there, May i ask for review on this 3 keyboard base on one particular software ?? Lightroom Ipad 1. while using Lightroom ipad version, does this all 3 keyboard functionality well ? 2. while inside the Lightroom ipad, is the DELETE button can really remove the photos one by one or it does not work out ? thanks
Hi all … I just bought the new iPad Pro M4 for 2024 … the 13 inch model. With 512G of ram it is for me, at least, the best iPad I’ve ever used. But this review is all about the one accessory I feel is a requirement of anyone who is a writer. I like to carry my iPad just about every day to the gym, coffee shops, cafes, or to a park setting. The one thing I think is an absolute necessity is a keyboard. It makes the iPad into a laptop but with far more functionality than any laptop I have seen or used. I did the homework and even visited several stores to look over keypads for the right one for me. Of course I started with the Apple Magic but the nearly $400 price tag was a showstopper. simply put it was not worth it to me. Probably just me but I look for value, not flash. I’m not trading my money so some executive can buy his or her second vacation home. Then I turned to a brand I’ve used many times … the Logitech Combo. I bought that product for my last M1 iPad Pro and it served me very well for nearly 4 years. Never a problem and always dependable as it got its power from the iPad itself. It was a very well thought out design. But the newest version of this product is no longer offered in the Oxford Cloth finish for the iPad Pro 13 inch model. Instead it comes in what looks like a silicone membrane finish that to me is not classy and looks far more utilitarian than a top shelf option for one of the priciest tablets on the market. So I passed on it primarily due to the $260 price tag plus tax. In my view it simply no longer offered the value I want in exchange for my money. Then I went to RUclips to see if others might have similar sentiments and perhaps discover what they found on the market. That’s when I discovered the ERS 360 magnetic keyboard. At just over $100 this is what I was looking for. The product does not disappoint. I ordered it not expecting a huge value but at least one that matched the price. What I got was a product that in my view, is three times the value of any other at the prices they were asking for what they were delivering. This ERS package is everything I could have asked for and then some. The build quality is excellent. Yes, it is a tad heavy but when you look at what’s packed into this tool kit the weight stops being a factor. A laptop would be close to the weight without the many functional abilities this keyboard offers. For me the most useful and surprising feature is the backlit keys. A black keyboard is not easy to read away from bright lights so the backlighting is a real plus. And to my surprise I can choose from 12 different colors. Every key is very well lit and easy to see. The light comes through the key to light up the letter, number or symbol. I can turn it on or off and even adjust the brightness up or down. Then there is the magnetic iPad holder that allows either landscape or portrait positioning of the iPad on the backboard that can be tilted to suit the best viewing. All this folds up into a thin book like carry that even includes a strap to cover and keep the expensive pencil in place. I do wish other makers would pay attention to the importance of this. You only need to lose that pencil one time to realize the value of keeping it attached to the tablet. How could you possibly lose that magnetic pencil, you might ask? Once on a cross country flight in the confines of my seat I took out my iPad and in the process the pencil popped off and rolled under my seat. I got up to find it but could not see it. To end this short story I never found it and it was never turned into lost and found. That over $100 lesson is what I’m talking about. So thank you ERS for thinking of this. To wrap up this review I highly recommend this product to anyone with an iPad in any size. I think it’s a great value and one you will not be sorry you ordered it.
I bought the Apple Magic Keyboard today for $350.00 it SUCKS! I'm taking it back! It's top-heavy, it's not really that "light"! It's WAY, WAY OVERPRICED! And it's extremely stiff!
The keyboard is only suitable for a desk. It’s not good for your lap at all. It’s as heavy as a brick. The best advice is to keep your old iPad Pro and the thin lightweight keyboard that you have. Apple continues to fail.
Is there some sort of licensing or something with the Smart Connector? I’ve only ever seen Apple themselves and Logitech utilize it. If ESR could make a case using Smart Connector that would be 👌🏼
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In the three hours I've been researching this has been more helpful than everything else I've seen put together, just wish I saw this sooner lol.
Go for ESR, is cheapest but the best of both world. The compromise is acceptable, but able to use wireless, use in both vertical and horizontal, and the floating form is a big plus.
A thing to take into account is that the Logitech Combo Touch after months of using it, the case around the speakers start to detach and it looks gross. A lot of people seem to have this issue
Been using the Magic Keyboard since the M4 came out and the Logitech just arrived in the mail. Now trying to decide which one to keep lol. The typing experience of the MK + detachable keyboard would be the absolute best
Agreed! It would be the best of both worlds.
there is a case that has the pins from PITAKA which is compatable with magic keyboard
what did you keep?
@@jeeeeev kept the Magic Keyboard in the end
@@AlexVassiosOfficial I was recently facing the same dilemma. Ultimately made the same choice; magic keyboard just works better for me, since my ipad is moving around all over the place, not just nice clean desks. I feel like if the Logitech had an actual hinge on the keyboard for stability, I might have stuck with it instead.
I finish ordered ESR iPad keyboard. Thank you for review those product and helped me decide to buy. I watch so many videos and find it so helpful. So thank you. I can’t wait to to use this product on my new iPad
Pro m4 :-).
How is it I’m look to get a keyboard and I’m leaning towards this but it would be great to here your thoughts
@@ThomasLaschenI love it, I got it after a few videos and the only downside is it is heavy….
but the keyboard lasts FOREVER, and it FEELS like a laptop due to the weight and materials.
Having a case even when you remove the iPad cannot be downplayed.
It has colors. My favorite color is purple (specifically lilac/lavender) so I am very happy to have a purple “laptop”
Overall, the price and value is unmatched. And I have had BOTH of the other cases. I returned them. I love my ESR.
@@kamaniaray how was the viewing angle experience?
The ESR keyboard for the 11in iPad Pro does not have a function row tho. Bummer.
Best one for me is the ESR Rebound 360! Love it! And it’s Purple!!!
Thanks for your comparison review. I purchased the Apple Magic Keyboard (Black) for my 13” iPad Pro M4 but wasn’t satisfied with it, as it was too top heavy and unstable if I was using the iPad touch screen. It also offers no protection of the iPad outside of the case. Plus you cannot use it in portrait mode. Fingerprints on the Apple black case were also an issue. I returned the Apple Magic Keyboard and replaced it with the ESR 360 case, which is much more suitable for my use, plus substantially cheaper to purchase. The ESR is heavier, but much more stable, especially if wanting to use in laptop mode. Cheers.
👍 thanks for sharing your experience. Good to hear from another user about the ESR 360. Seems Apple missed the mark on the MK this go around. Top heavy seems to be what I hear as well, and I think users are willing to tolerate that for the experience.
how’s the trackpad?
@@baranse Very good and suits my needs. The Apple trackpad is superior but at a huge premium price. Cheers
Thanks for the detailed comparison! I went with the ESR for my M2 iPad Air as I wanted a fully protected/enclosed case, vertical orientation option, a pencil holder, and usability on an airplane tray table.
The main down part for the ESR keyboard is no haptic feedback trackpad. Otherwise the portrait mode with extra protection can make it arguably more useful than the Magic Keyboard.
This is a very good point. It does move so it has feedback to click. No question to me that it’s more useful than the Magic Keyboard in most ways. But I think the overall weight and size is why some people would lean toward Apple.
Having a case/keyboard that offers a vertical orientation is important to me. I'm leaning towards ESR Rebound
Very good comparison! I went with the Apple Magic Keyboard. I've used the older Logitech version on my previous M1 iPad Pro. I did like it but the angle flap made it impossible to use with any comfort on the lap. Furthermore the on desk profile with extended flap made it quite a space hog. I am glad that Logitech seems to have fixed the mounting frame that used to stretch out after a few installs in the frame (I like to use other folios for my iPad).
I haven’t tried to take off the case on my Logitech keyboard, but I can imagine the frame stretching. I had that issue in a few spots with the first case I had. I returned it with my Best Buy warranty, as the keyboard stopped working. Haven’t had any issues with my replacement. I do slightly worry about the rubber stretching, so I’m careful when handling the case. It’s not too big a deal, as with my Magic Keyboard, I handle that with care too. There’s no protection around the iPad itself.
@@adamphynes7342 the new keyboard’s fame took to be sturdier from what I can tell from its picture vs. the old one.
Logitech Combo Touch....all the way.....today i recieved the package from Logitech store.....Im sending apple magic keyboard back to retail shop......no doubt
I returned my Magic Keyboard as I thought it was the same as previous they just added minor new things to it but the price is ridiculous. Gonna order the Logitech one
I bought two different esr 360 keyboards. Each time i put the cover on my iPad, it caused static and interference when i would scroll.
I’ve had the Logitech for my 12.9” m1 iPad for years, and it’s great. I got the Magic Keyboard for my new m4 iPad, mostly because I wanted a change. I do agree with the video that only being able to use the Logitech on a table is a downside. I like the fabric-like feel of the case, however if you want the most upscale look, the magic keyboard is best. One thing I love about the Logitech is that it has a case for the iPad. When you detach it from the keyboard, it’s protected. If you want to just use it on your bed to watch a video, or just to take it around your home for example, it’s protected. You have to be very careful when taking the iPad off the Magic Keyboard, as there’s no protection whatsoever. Combined with the iPad being so thin, it can be a concern for those a little rough in their electronics.
i got the pro yesterday, after this review, i’ve realised the pass through charging in the apple keyboard is invaluable, so it proved previously, so it continues.
@@adamphynes7342case alone makes it a dealbreaker for magic kb, logitech is awesome
Also on the hunt for something light ....I often have to fold the keyboard back and use the ipad as a tablet while standing....for that, nobody wants a floppy, thick mess that you have to juggle while using the Pencil. The ORIGINAL Apple keyboard for the 1st gen iPad pro was wonder...no trackpad, but it disappeared when folded behind the device. would like something like that.
Great Review! You covered all the questions I had from online research, Thank You!
What wallpaper do you use?
This was the best breakdown comparison I’ve seen. Thank you for your content. ❤👍🏾
When I switch ipad I probably get the Logitech only thing I seen that I want more on it was a protection for the Apple Pencil so it doesn’t fall off like esr have but I rather have the rest of the Logitech when esr
I have the logitec, and the only positive is the ability to disconnect and use it with out the keyboard. But the size of the keyboard and the pad is very weird.
Good video! It helped me a lot. Thanks! Can you please tell me if the ESR keyboard trackpad is as good as the one from Apple? I've heard of too many unwanted clicks when using it...
I got the ESR 360. Works well and is heavy. I would choose it again. I’m more of a touchscreen and pencil user though.👍 great review!
My main issue with the magic keyboard is the lack of a cradle leaving the iPad with no protection. One hip brush against that thing and it will go flying.
Great video and comparison.
I originally went for the Logitech Combo keyboard, but then saw the ESR video and decided to order one from Amazon. Although it does add a bit of heft and thickness, I do love the viewing angle it provides and the ability to change it from horizontal to vertical viewing. The downside (for me) is that I have the 11 inch version and it doesn’t come with a dedicated function key row. I also like that you can use the keyboard when it's not attached to the iPad itself - another plus AND when it’s detached from the keyboard, there is protection for the iPad in the form of the case (the Logitech offers that as well). The other bonus for me is that fact that it has a magnetic cover to keep the stylus in place. I have the ESR and Apple pencil and while the Apple pencil has a better magnet, it is still prone to falling off the iPad, so that flap will come in handy.
I didn’t even think once about considering the Apple magic keyboard b/c, well it’s just not that magical to me. Sure, it’s beautiful and sleek, but I like the fact that both the ESR and Logitech offer some protection of the iPad when it’s not attached to the keyboard. And there is not $200 of quality difference in the Apple keyboard.
nice review! I would love to see how the typecase compares to this though, especially esr!
What an amazing comparison, super comprehensive and objective really appreciate it!
honestly these keyboards prices are insane
I had a bad experience with ESR on iPad Pro 11 M4. Had to replace it 4 times and eventually gave up for my work iPad. The track pad is terrible. You constantly have to keep tapping to trigger a click. Unless you tap right in the middle.
I did like the Logitech but the stand stinks and the price is close to Magic Keyboard. Ultimately went for Magic Keyboard. It’s unbelievable.
Really? I was about to buy for my ipad air m2. For those 4 times, same experience with the problem on trackpad?
perfect solution for me would be a keyboard like the one on the iPad 10, detachable but magnetic (also like Samsung ones...) Lacking that I alternative Magic Keyboard and Magnetic folio
I prefer more travel like a desktop type and like the flap to keep the Pencil safe. What I don’t see is small rubber bumpers to stop the iPad from touching the keyboard. Which is best for that part? My old 10.5”iPad Pro had a Brydge Bluetooth keyboard with the bumpers and I never got any marks from the keyboard on the iPad.
this is a must watch video. great quality and great work !
Hi! Thanks for the video. I use my iPad laying down on the couch and I need to tilt the display at 90 degrees or even less. Would this case support the iPad this way or would it snap off the magnetic stand?
Excellent video, no filler and very informative. I’m torn between the Magic Keyboard and the ESR…
Could you please measure the thickness for both with the iPad in place so I can have an idea of how they stack up against each other?
Just ordered one from looking at your review, a few things you mentioned that are not in the description on Amazon, removeable, vertical, oozing forward to its arrival later today
Does the ESR trackpad work as well as the Logitech and Apple Keyboard? I believe Apple allowed Logitech to use the same drivers as their magic keyboard but Logitech had to pay Apple for it. Its the only concern I have with the ESR trackpad. Can you confirm?
I have the ESR 360 with ipad Air 13in M2 for the last couple weeks and everything works good overall. I had the Logitech combo touch case on my 11in ipad and it worked well the main issue was not great using on lap but did like the built in stand if detached from the keyboard. The ESR case weight is a concern, it is pretty heavy, almost 400gms (13oz) more that the other two and when you lug it around in your backpack you notice it.
May you send the link to the wallpaper?
Great review!! Thanks a lot 😊 I would just wonder if the apple option is too top heavy. Ive been inclining towards the esr because of all the comments about that and wanted to know your thoughts on this. Other than that seems like apple’s is the best, but would definitely be a deal breaker if it’s tipping over all the time or I can’t use it confidently because of that. Thanks again!!
I dropped my iPad yesterday and the Magic Keyboard provides zero protection for any drops. I now have a permanent scuff on the edge tat quite rough and visible.
Obviously…
I am thinking I like everything you said about the ESR Magnetic Keyboard Case 360 rather than spending the $$ to go Apple again. Can you tell me the exact name of this one for an IPad Pro 13”. I don’t want to buy the wrong one. Thank you!!
Thanks for the comparison. I went with the ESR although I note that they had two models that suit the 12.9 inch iPad Pro so I hope I chose wisely. Cheers
Hi, can you send me link to your wallpaper on iPad ? Thank you
With the ESR keyboard, if I were to take the iPad out of the case with the keyboard still connected via Bluetooth, Are you able to fold the top part of the case under the keyboard? (For a more traditional keyboard and trackpad experience in case I were to dock the ipad somewhere)
Great video. I've tried all 3, and went with Logitech because it's a thin keyboard that is fun to use, feels like a real laptop (absent the kick stand), has pass through charging, and most importantly, a protective case (and built-in stand) that allows you to safely use the ipad independently. It's not as pretty as the MK, but since the MK doesn't have a protective case, it's a matter of time before I drop my ipad. I loved the ESR at first, but it was so bulky that it felt like a Chromebook from 10 years ago. If I'm buying a thin, sleek ipad, I don't want a plastic-feeling keyboard case that's an inch thick when closed. Ideally, if ESR made a thinner, sleeker keyboard with pass-through charging with a modest price increase, it would be the best, since they have a great protective case included. It would still need to have some weight to stabilize from tip-overs, but I'm honestly more concerned with the thickness than weight. So overall, I think the Logitech is the best of both worlds: a design that complements the ipad and a keyboard that feels like it's worth the investment. It looks like a real laptop when closed (rather than a closed-book design), and I personally don't have any problem using it on my lap. Plus, having a detachable keyboard makes it feel more innovative. If the Logitech is too expensive, go with the ESR "Ascend" series. It's very similar, thinner than the Rebound, and half the price of the LT.
I have tried many keyboard , the best is still apple keyboard why is smooth and good . Try logictech combo is so so and also try though Bluetooth keyboard is the most horrible , it has delay in response and keep on charging the keyboard .
Great video! One question : i own the previous combo touch and planned on upgrading from the M1 to the M4 iPad. Would the combo touch still be compatible or should i also upgrade the keyboard? The MK s way too overpriced and don’t protect the device at all
No, old keyboard cases don’t work with the current ones unfortunately :(
Idk anyone here experienced this but the logitech combo touch in older generations (mine is iPad Air 2020) is not that good. And i’ve used 2 of them (i got a faulty unit in the first one, and replaced it. So i cycled through 2 different units of this keyboard case.) and both have this same issue: the trackpad.
The trackpad would randomly just “disconnect”. Suddenly just loses connection. And i would need to tap on a random key to “jolt” it back. And when it does come back, the scrolling becomes staggered; the screen only moves after i lift my fingers up. And to revert the scrolling back to instantaneous, i have to detach and reattach the keyboard.
And also, it is a chore to lug around the entire ipad with the keyboard all the time. Every single time i wanna use my ipad, i have to find a big empty surface to rest my ipad because the combo touch requires quite a big surface area to sit on, then for the keyboard to open and lay flat, 2 hands for the hinge to prop up, and then also 2 hands to detach the keyboard. So on the go? It’s just not a very pleasant experience. It’s a very 2-hand operation.
Sure, magic keyboard sounds like a great idea; my friend used it and doesnt seem to have the trackpad problem. And it definitely requires a smaller surface to prop up. But you cant use the ipad without the magic keyboard, not at least you find a separate stand for the ipad itself after detaching it. Part of the appeal of the logi combo touch was that the ipad could still have a stand (and previous magic keyboard also didnt have a row of function keys. Now they do.)
The higher end ipad’s keyboard solutions from Apple are just weird, if not frustrating. Whilst i think their entry ipad 10th gen’s keyboard solution from themselves is great; a magnetic flap at the back without casing makes the whole contraption much less bulky while simultaneously acting as a stand, and detachable keyboard with the pogo pins situated at the bottom of the ipad, instead of at the back of the ipad air and pro. Sure, it doesnt solve the issue of using a big surface to get the whole ipad propped up, but having a stand on an ipad is almost more important than anything else in the ipad accessories space.
No solution is perfect, but i think the 10th gen’s Magic Keyboard Folio is as close as it gets.
Does the ESR or Logitech case still allow the iPad to be mounted on a magnetic arm accessory?
Depends on the accessory. Some do some don't. I'm about to buy this, so can let you know if you like
@@robertkettle473 That would be awesome! Please do!
I want to love the ESR but it just adds way too much weight. Hate to say it but Apple’s keyboard is the best but priced very highly.
I got the inateck folio for $38 - solely for the ability to use my keyboard without it being attached
Excellent video! Thank you 👍
Brydge 12.9 max+ is the best keyboard case for ipad.
What about for the 13” Air?
best in order Apple MK, ESR, then Logitech. Logitech weakness is how it stands, can’t stand on any hard surfaces. Apple MK is not case cover so when you take it off to use it’s protected.
Sometimes I feel like apple wants you to damage the product to buy again.
What about Typecase Edge Magic Keyboard ?? Share suggestions
From where ist the awesome looking Sand background? Very nice Video. Thank you!
Edit: No ESR for me as they are not available with Nordic layout. :-(
Since the Logitech Slim Folio Pro is no longer made I will probably try the ESR simply because it matters a lot to have large keys and to sit away from a table using it.
I miss a good alternative that keeps itself solidy up and with no trackpad as I dislike using them anyway.
If your tablet is for mostly media consumption having a tablet that can detach from the keyboard and still be able to stand is a huge luxury. But the best value is ESR. The MK is for aesthetics and for working…but I have a MacBook. 🤷🏾♂️
Will any of the keyboard solutions you went over, cause damage to the IPad screen/screen protector?
No. The ESR and Logitech wrap around the front of the screen a bit but I don’t think it would cause damage.
@@VittorTech Thank you for your quick response. After reviewing the photos of both, I do see your point. Rethinking my question, I believe a protective laminated glass should protect the screen from keyboard damage.
This is my first time viewing your channel, your approach is thorough and expain well. It looks like I am leaning toward the Apple solution.
I own both Magic Keyboard and the combo touch. I can’t believe the people choosing the lg, it feels so inferior quality wise, especially the keyboard itself. The buttons, the overall build, absolutely everything feels superior on the MK. The construction itself feels much more solid on the Magic Keyboard, it feels like a genuine laptop. The combo touch feels just like what it is: a tablet keyboard with a stand.
Bro are you dumb, no one spending $400 on a dumb keyboard that has no protection and if it breaks good luck and also you can’t turn off the keyboard, and it will ALWAYS, drain ur battery even when ur not using it
Lg is 2x better
And before u call me a broke boy, I ain’t spending a extra $400 just for typing and the only game u can play in Minecraft with that keyboard, and plus the iPad Pro m4 11 inch is expensive enough
Thanks for the review…
I would love a new Smart Cover keyboard folio. Since apple seems to have discontinued it, are there similar 3rd party products?
These are the top 3 keyboards right now but I’m sure more are coming over time. It’s so new still.
Bought the ESR but can’t get past how heavy it is!
The ESR keyboard case in the link is not the same one as your are showing in the video. Yours has function keys; the one in the link does not.
Do you have a link to the one that will match yours?
The 11-inch M4 model does not come with function keys; only the 13-inch model includes them.
Money isn’t a problem, which one should I get for my m4 pro 11?
If money isn’t an issue - Apple. It’s the best balance between design and function, but it’s way more money.
❤Apple MK is amazing, fit and function perfect. I mean this thing looks so slick. The biggest negative is cost and the minor negative is it’s not fully protected.
I find it strange that you didn’t say any negative things about the ESR. Maybe cuz they gave you the case? The main cons is the weight and needing to charge it separately. But instead of saying those, you made them both sound like pros. To focus on how you can use the esr keyboard even when it is not plugged in as a feature instead of focusing on the con that you need to remember to charge it. And how it’s great to be heavy so it doesn’t tip over instead of saying it’s way heavier than the other two
Maybe because it gives you hundreds of hours of use in a single charge?
You can metigate the fingersprint on the Apple Magic Keyboard by getting a skin. That is what I did for the first Magic Keyboard generation.
I was thinking about getting a DBrand skin. How did yours hold up over time?
Great Review! I went ahead and bought the Magic Keyboard pretty pricey tho!
So pricy but it’s the perfect accessory for an iPad.
Worth noting though I’m also excited by the ESR Rebound: 2024 model is the only iPad for which ESR does not offer a white case. If you click “other options” on the Amazon page it jumps to a case for prior models, which won’t fit. I went to their official website and it says “two colors” but they’re both black (surprise!) and the difference is US vs UK layout. Also because of the lighting here it looks like a steel blue, so it’s closer to gray (grey? ; ) than black, and like the “space black” iPad will show smudges more easily than white would, which is why I got silver. I think the design is superior to others I’ve seen but color matters when you’re using rubber materials in my opinion. The white color is teased at the end of the trailer but there’s no mention of when it will be available if ever 😂 Maybe a ploy to sell what they expect to be the less popular color first, I wonder why they do this to us.
wow, you should reaaaallly turn off auto exposure if it makes the entire video turn from brightly over exposed to dark in an instant depending on whats on the ipad screen that your showing….
Great video man
I just wish the esr‘s trackpad would have been a little bigger😭
extremely good video
Where did u get that background 😊
Will that ESR case work with the Apple MK?
No because it makes the overall device too thick and blocks the smart connectors.
We’ll likely have MK compatible cases soon, like the Pitaka MagEZ (Pitaka actually announced it already) and the Spigen Thin Pro.
Great clear & comprehensive comparison.
I'm glad you dissed the extending kick stand on the Logitech. I used Logi's 'Create' keyboard for years for my M1 iPad. It smartly propped up on it's magnetic pass through strip, so no kickstand needed. Logi discontinued the 'Create' and appear to be disinterested in reintroducing this design. But since the whole progression of Apple is to make the iPad more & more LAP-top-like, why offer only a kickstand-supported case which feels AWFUL on your LAP?? It's unstable on your thighs, it bounces around as you type, and does anybody but me mind the bottom edge of the kickstand digging into your thighs...ouch! This seems so obvious as to make me wonder how Logitech's design team can miss this and be so...IlLogical.
Everything you said is 100% fact
ESR Rebound Magnetic Keyboard Case 360!!!
ESR❤
Hello there, May i ask for review on this 3 keyboard base on one particular software ?? Lightroom Ipad
1. while using Lightroom ipad version, does this all 3 keyboard functionality well ?
2. while inside the Lightroom ipad, is the DELETE button can really remove the photos one by one or it does not work out ?
thanks
The only thing that makes the magic keyboard go for me is the pass through charging. Without that, the price is not very attractive.
Impressive Video!
I use a $40 Typecase bluetooth keyboard case for my iPad & it does the job well. I do like this one though & may get it
Easy Magic Keyboard.
Hi all … I just bought the new iPad Pro M4 for 2024 … the 13 inch model. With 512G of ram it is for me, at least, the best iPad I’ve ever used. But this review is all about the one accessory I feel is a requirement of anyone who is a writer. I like to carry my iPad just about every day to the gym, coffee shops, cafes, or to a park setting. The one thing I think is an absolute necessity is a keyboard. It makes the iPad into a laptop but with far more functionality than any laptop I have seen or used. I did the homework and even visited several stores to look over keypads for the right one for me. Of course I started with the Apple Magic but the nearly $400 price tag was a showstopper. simply put it was not worth it to me. Probably just me but I look for value, not flash. I’m not trading my money so some executive can buy his or her second vacation home.
Then I turned to a brand I’ve used many times … the Logitech Combo. I bought that product for my last M1 iPad Pro and it served me very well for nearly 4 years. Never a problem and always dependable as it got its power from the iPad itself. It was a very well thought out design. But the newest version of this product is no longer offered in the Oxford Cloth finish for the iPad Pro 13 inch model. Instead it comes in what looks like a silicone membrane finish that to me is not classy and looks far more utilitarian than a top shelf option for one of the priciest tablets on the market. So I passed on it primarily due to the $260 price tag plus tax. In my view it simply no longer offered the value I want in exchange for my money. Then I went to RUclips to see if others might have similar sentiments and perhaps discover what they found on the market. That’s when I discovered the ERS 360 magnetic keyboard. At just over $100 this is what I was looking for. The product does not disappoint. I ordered it not expecting a huge value but at least one that matched the price. What I got was a product that in my view, is three times the value of any other at the prices they were asking for what they were delivering. This ERS package is everything I could have asked for and then some. The build quality is excellent. Yes, it is a tad heavy but when you look at what’s packed into this tool kit the weight stops being a factor. A laptop would be close to the weight without the many functional abilities this keyboard offers. For me the most useful and surprising feature is the backlit keys. A black keyboard is not easy to read away from bright lights so the backlighting is a real plus. And to my surprise I can choose from 12 different colors. Every key is very well lit and easy to see. The light comes through the key to light up the letter, number or symbol. I can turn it on or off and even adjust the brightness up or down. Then there is the magnetic iPad holder that allows either landscape or portrait positioning of the iPad on the backboard that can be tilted to suit the best viewing. All this folds up into a thin book like carry that even includes a strap to cover and keep the expensive pencil in place. I do wish other makers would pay attention to the importance of this. You only need to lose that pencil one time to realize the value of keeping it attached to the tablet. How could you possibly lose that magnetic pencil, you might ask? Once on a cross country flight in the confines of my seat I took out my iPad and in the process the pencil popped off and rolled under my seat. I got up to find it but could not see it. To end this short story I never found it and it was never turned into lost and found. That over $100 lesson is what I’m talking about. So thank you ERS for thinking of this. To wrap up this review I highly recommend this product to anyone with an iPad in any size. I think it’s a great value and one you will not be sorry you ordered it.
Logitech’s berceuse it has a separate stand for just watching videos when you don’t want to use a keyboard
ESR
I bought the Apple Magic Keyboard today for $350.00 it SUCKS! I'm taking it back! It's top-heavy, it's not really that "light"! It's WAY, WAY OVERPRICED! And it's extremely stiff!
As usual Apple is not listening to ANYONE only themselves.
Best part in Logitech is PROTECTION
The best keyboard was the apple smart folio. Fight me
If I go for the apple Magic Keyboard is there a slim snap on cover that is compatible in case I wanna watch a movie in bed ?
The keyboard is only suitable for a desk. It’s not good for your lap at all. It’s as heavy as a brick. The best advice is to keep your old iPad Pro and the thin lightweight keyboard that you have. Apple continues to fail.
Is there some sort of licensing or something with the Smart Connector? I’ve only ever seen Apple themselves and Logitech utilize it. If ESR could make a case using Smart Connector that would be 👌🏼