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IS HYBRID TRAINING A MYTH?!
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2023
- Starting Strength Coach Grant Broggi explains his issue with promoting "hybrid training" as popularized by many people on RUclips lately, including Nick Bare and others.
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Allan Thrall's recent videos I think are good advice on this issue . Simply doing strength training can get boring and unless you are a professional strength athlete or a serious competitor who cares if your deadlift suffers because you want to go bicycling instead of training some days .
What matters is that you are active and sometimes taking a break from lifting makes you appreciate it more when you come back .
Rip has already written you out of his will for that KB video.
glad you think I was in it! Hi dad!
I am working on the 5 minute squat. I am up to 3 minutes and 30 seconds and climbing.
I think the key is showing up consistently, and not falling off completely. If it is Friday and you haven't gone to the gym this week, go its not too late. Except for extreme circumstances it's never too late to start and it's never too late to progress.
What you prescribe makes a whole lot of sense. Thanks
Lifting Hard + Living Easy… now that’s my kind of hybrid
WHAT A COMBO!
I love the message. It's also good to distinguish whether hybrid is separated or combined into a single session. I know Nick runs and lifts but there are hours and meals in between, and the hardest runs don't overlap the hardest lifting sessions. These classic Gym Jones/Crossfit style mash-ups are occasionally fun but not really a sustainable way to train. Thanks Grant!
My son is currently attempting the 600 dead 6 mm. He's currently 585 and 6:15 mile. He is 22, 6ft 235.
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Freaks of nature and liars - a few years back a friend and I called out Nick bare for a fake 100 mile ruck video. He actually unlisted it after we raised such a shit storm. Not natty as well. I have experience at 100 mile distance and powerlifting and my argument is always that I enjoy the experiences of both. I know I could be incrementally better at either if I focused on one but I would miss out on so much.
I remember that. He’s a fraud
Yah, he doesn't inspire me at all. I'm much more impressed by someone who can moderate and get relevant athleticism as a natty than a full time fitness guy on roids that trains twice a day or 3 times because his drugs permit and as a physique nobody wants and squat numbers that don't really matter either. I assure you these high level sauced hybrid guys look weird as hell and unhealthy in real life. You can still have an effective especially high level of strength and put in decent miles/performances running. Boxers and wrestlers have been doing it for 150 years+. There are also plenty of guys that can get good upper body strength numbers while putting in miles. Getting especially high squat or even deadlift numbers while seriously getting after it in running tends to be more suited for sauced guys, because pushing those numbers up takes more muscle mass/raw weight. 5 pounds of mass on your upper body is going to push your bench of far more than 5 pounds of mass on your thighs, and glutes will push up your dead or squat, but they will slow down your running about equally.
"Don't tell Mark" 🤣... Thank you for sharing your knowledge! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Atheletes just call it training
Grant is the man.
It's attainable...the problem is everybody wants but they don't to commit and don't have the discipline to do hard work...it's easier to make excuses...hard work with beat natural talent
Of course they are attainable, just takes time and dedication. But the issue I see is these hybrid athlete influence aren’t very clear on who these programs are for. IMO, they are for beginners that have no weight training nor did much endurance training before. But since this is actually most people and they want to target the largest audience, they don’t mention this. If you look at these hybrid athletes, you will see that they either had a very strong lifting background or endurance background. I don’t see many that start from zero and worked on both at the same time.
I mean if you can already deadlift 500lbs, can these programs allow you to keep your strength while improving your endurance? Sure. But if you are new to lifting and run a 10 min mile, these programs are way too much. Tons of people get injuries from overtraining, bad programming, bad form for lifting. And runners also get injuried a lot from training. So when you are trying to combine both, the injury risk is even higher. So you really need to be careful of the volume. That is why these should not be targetted at beginners at all.
Your advice is spot-on! 👍👏
Best video and overall message you've done. 👍👍
What would be the answer for someone who “must” be so called “hybrid”? Such as me, working as a soldier, I know you used to be a marine, so you probably know a thing or two about this.
But a totally agree with this new hybrid nonsense on youtube. You have a few profiles here calling themselves “hybrid athletes” but the thing is - no normal person can realistically do that they do. If you work 8+ hours/day, have family, home and all that requires. How much time do you have per week to train if you also want to live a little… having 20 of the 24 hours fully booked everyday it’s not very sustainable.
I’ve read the book tactical barbell which is kinda “hybrid” since it turns to military or LEO persons. It’s basic lifting and running. That’s it more or less. What I don’t love about it is it’s approach to lifting where you chose your “exercise cluster”. Eg. SQ/BP/DL or FSQ/OHP/Chins. One could definitely argue that if you could only do 3 movements it should be SQ, DL and BP. But it’s just a little bit on the short side if you ask me.
I don’t know if you know Andy Baker and his online barbell club-thing? He’s got one path called “basic barbell” there which essentially is only basic barbell movements and some accessories that should be able to be done in a garage gym.
SQ, DL, BP, OHP, Pull-ups etc…
As a army-man I’ve looked high and low for a structured program that fits the bill and allows me to be strong enough (or actually I wanna be very strong for being a soldier hehe) and still able to finish respectable times at our running-tests (2…10 km in gear).
Now, many use the juggernaut ai app and I’ve tried it as well. However like many “powerlifting programs”, not “strength programs” are often very high in volume. And it’s tricky to fit in 4+ lifting sessions stretching 1,5+ hours /session a week and still have the ability to recover for 2-3 run sessions/week.
What I’m saying is hybrid training isn’t easy. And those programs out there are definitely not for ppl with… what’s the word?…. Yeah - A LIFE 😂
Yep. I hover around 200 lbs and feel like I’m heavy enough to continue to grow stronger for a while yet.
Love rucking with a 45# pack for LSD. Find that it doesn’t make me sore or impact my lifts.
Superb advice.
So "hybrid athlete" is just being fit, or just basically does Strength and Conditioning, or training like a Athlete?
Hybrid training (Strength training alternated with conditioning days) is definitely possible. But to do it to the level of RUclips hybrid athletes requires drugs. There’s no way around it. The body would simply break down if you do it to that level without serious enhancements
Not necessarily. There's a huge genetic component as well as things like prior training history in each aspect of training, programming (there are tons of ways to organize a hybrid routine, some good some bad), proper fueling, stress management, sleep etc. All of these things are huge factors. To dismiss it as just a drug fueled endeavor is disingenuous at best.
Depends on the youtuber. There are some guys I follow that do it but you can obviously see they are compromising strenght and prioritizing running, which is realistic and what I also do. One of the two needs to give in, but yes I do agree that the ones who are doing crazy stuff like "deadlift 600 pounds and then run a 5 minute mile" are doing drugs. But hybrid training is definitely possible and in my opinion the best method of training.
I’m down for a 500lbs deadlift and a 6-7 minutes mile
Totally agree
Good enough!
no intro of the kitty????????????
he really doesnt need an introduction.
“Five minute squat” haha
This is nothing new. Just a different name for it. Brian Mckenzie/CFE, Rob Shaul's stuff, John Wellborn/PA, Gym Jones etc etc etc.
Good video, btw, Grant
You can run and lift, but to put up huge squat numbers and/or be really heavy and be an exceptional runner is the steroids talking. Just look at their workouts. Kind of just excessive IMO. I'd rather be a natty that's good but not elite lifter that is a good runner but not elite marathoner etc., and then be good at some third sport that's actually more of a sport, be it boxing, jumping, tennis, whatever. Most hybrid training just seems to be guys running off excess energy from peds rather than having a mediocre placing in a running comp or powerlifting or bodybuilding meet or MMA match. Even in the lifting aspect, you'd be better off building lifts more selectively than like "big squat" or "big dead" long runs which just makes you look like a clumsy juiced block that runs, or a runner with huge thighs and a thick waist, which isn't a good look for a guy. You'd be better off natural getting a big bench, or curl or weighted pullup and running for legs, which would grow symmetrically anyway if you're gaining upper body muscle while putting in miles. It's sort of the same as crossfit is it's blockheadedness.
It seems as my deadlift goes up currently only 305 for 5 two sets my 5k runs are getting slower
theres a balance somewhere there.
Try one set of 5
@@LordoftheSithI think that’s catastrophic for strength
How is your running program structured? Just like lifting, the program that you run matters. Sure, you can get faster just by running more but that is not the most efficient way. Especially when you need to combine with lifting, you have to ensure you are eating enough and resting/sleeping enough for recovery or you will just keep spinning your wheels even though you are putting in the effort.
@@bensonvong not so structured I usually run on the days I'm not lifting or sometimes it's just on Saturdays
lol RUclips is just different channels trashing others and then convince the audience to choose them instead 😂
What about the fact that HIT and the Colorado Experiment have been debunked? Does that mean that HIIT cardio is also BS?
As far as I understand, HIT works but:
1. it’s not better than steady state cardio in terms of building cardio.
2. It burns fewer calories overall compared to steady state cardio since HIT cannot be sustained due to the intensity. As a result the total “work” for a HIT session is less than steady state sessions.
HIIT is relevant for training your body to move at higher intensifies. For a runner this would be a form of their speed work. For an MMA fighter it could be anything from sport specific bag drills to general conditioning on something like an airdyne. Either way it's a form of training anaerobic qualities with some aerobic carryover. It's not a replacement of aerobic cardio, but rather complements it beautifully .
@@robcubed9557in terms of body composition that is correct. For athletic performance both HIIT and LISS are beneficial for different reasons. Both should be included
😂 for me I'm not sure a 9 min mile is reasonable .
15 min mile here… just started though
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Let’s be honest and you were , the hybrid athlete ideologically isn’t for most people. Really very few people will have any success at it because they are in essence a beginner at every aspect
yep
You're looking at it wrong. Another way of looking at it is that most people will get nowhere near elite levels in either strength or endurance. So, might as well be decent at both. That's very relevant and practical. It's just not easy. You can't be lazy on a hybrid program.
@@joeberger3441 and most people will be burnt out , injured and quit right away
And what about it? You don’t need to be elite, some people just want to work out and be healthy.
@@jgrcs1906 a hybrid isn’t general exercise to be healthy it’s training in multiple sport’s generally to be competitive
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Cat seems like its trying to market itself to have someone buy your cats
cats are not for sale
Gimmie a break!!! Let’s title something that people have been doing for decades.
The term “hybrid athlete” is dumb.
It’s pretty accurate
@@pulkpuller what’s accurate? That Nick Bare is fake natty snake oil salesman scum?