5 Surprising Things About Math Majors that Nobody Ever Tells You
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
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1- Math is hard.
2- Some teachers are better than others.
3- You have to teach yourself.
4- Not all math is the same (maths subjects are different).
5- Math is rewarding (getting a math degree is very rewarding).
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@@TheMathSorcerer Still watched the whole video, twice~👍
How is it rewarding in the job sector 😔
@@abdurrahmanlabib916 You shouldn't have much trouble finding a job with a mathematics degree friend.
@@JarodM compared to other degrees, its very difficult to find a high salary job unkess u become a professor
I am a mathematics major and I love it so far. I was homeschooled so teaching myself was a must.
Awesome
Yes! more than 3 (pure) math classes is just insane. You just dont have the time to do all the practice questions and you just learn half as much. Just take your time. Nobody has to finish his degree a year earlier.
I started taking max 3 math classes when working through my undergrad cause I really wanted to go to grad school at that time and decided I'd rather do it slowly and learn everything properly. I thought I was lagging behind other people who wanted to do grad school til I actually started socializing and found out that people taking 4 or more math courses at once was extremely rare.
@@Ahmgcats Here in europe every class is mandatory so i do be dying with 5 pure math classes.
@@ToddlerAnnihilator666 good god, I'm so sorry to hear that ✊😔
Absolutely correct! Try taking 3 or more upper level math classes, e.g real analysis, abstract algebra, topology AND also having a job of 30+ hours per week to pay for tuition, living expenses, books, etc. Yes, it's crazy or you're a genius.
Math major here, math is extremely hard, sometimes downright exhausting, but other times straight up exciting. Don’t look up answers and work together friends!
I struggled with math all throughout high school (getting D's and F's) in my freshman/sophomore/junior year. This year I took it upon myself to learn math and I gotta say, it's one of the most fulfilling things to "beat" when you are able to do calculus after struggling with algebra for years. I'm currently in the 2nd hardest calculus class in my school and doing much better. PS your videos motivated me a lot and I can proudly say that I like math a lot right now. Thank you math sorcerer!!!!
You got this!
My friend is really depressed since he got a C in stochastic process. I think your video could cheer him up.
Yeah that's a tough class! I took that in grad school but I was fortunate to have an AMAZING professor, just insanely good. He really made the class great.
The hardest thing for me was seeing people who weren't math majors who were still better at math than I was. A lot of those physics majors are better than me at derivations and proofs, and that was hard to take, because I'm not great at physics.
Bro, are you still in math major?
@@alib6656 I guess you could say that. I finished my bachelor's in math, but ended up getting my masters in accounting. I'm studying for the CPA now but I still like to do some math stuff for fun.
Didn't expect to find this motivational, but here I am excited to get out of a slump and study math.
awesome!!
This dude is always motivational
I have a masters in math and I was constantly afraid of failing, I felt lost a big portion of the time, I had to study a lot too. Most of my peers pretended like they didn't have to study and were just not nice people. I don't know why, I didn't encounter that behavior when I was getting my masters in econ. Thankfully i still graduated with honors. I love your down to earth attitude towards math. Man, I still struggle with math because you forget stuff and other things are just difficult. I love your advice and wish I knew this stuff back in my day.
"Your success in maths depends on you". Very wise!
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This video is so true!!! I am about to graduate with my math degree in december, and this is my hardest semester by far. Everything that he says here is so true. It is not an easy journey, but it is very rewarding.
The part about math being different is so true. Some of my classes I would be top of the class making straight A's, and some I barely passed with C's. Then when I tell someone I barely passed a math class they'd be like "I thought you were good at math?!" and be confused.
I was good at proofs and logic, and things like abstract algebra, but terrible at integrating and manipulating equations without a computer. That's just how it goes
I really enjoy the growth mindset that you have fostered in yourself and which is clear that you espouse to your students. Thanks Sorc
This is seriously what I needed to hear today. Thank you!
Just stumbled across this... as someone who just got my dual degrees in Physics and Applied Mathematics, this is super on point. My worst semester was 3 upper level math classes with 3 upper level physics classes... there were many tears that semester.
WOW SO AWESOME!!! THANKS SO MUCH!!!
Teaching urself is probably the most relatable and rewarding advice especially in equations u wanna know but havent been taught
Yep!
About to graduate in June with my Math degree. I loved every second of it. You do a good job here of laying things out.
To anyone who's started studying math or is thinking of doing it, my best advice is to be patient. There's going to be challenges and you will be tested, but you just have to push through. You can do it.
I really love your videos. I got a B.S. in mathematics 9 years ago and ended up working in a completely different area. I wish I knew about your videos when I was a student; but they also make me glad that I stuck it out with a subject I am still passionate about even though I struggled all the way through.
I needed to hear this. Thanks!
Sir , you give me so much hope and motivation to re- teach myself math from scratch, so I can go to school to become a chemical engineer. I even bought some of the books you recommended for teaching yourself math from start to beginning( pre algebra , calculus , Algebra and trigonometry). I wish there were more Honest and sincere people like you who have a passion for math and want others to learn it.
Man you hit the nail on the head with all of your points. I was a math major & still love & have fun with math. And everyone I know refers to me as a math genius. It's meant to be flattering, but I've gotten to the point, ( I'm 50 years young) that I tell them; no I'm not a genius I worked my a** off to get "good" at math. I don't think people realize how much work it takes. Keep up the great videos. It's so awesome to have a forum for all of us "Math Geniuses" to connect & share. Cheers.
Agree with all your points and thank you for all the helpful videos
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A lot of this applies to all majors. I needed this speech 20 years ago. I struggled with some of my math classes my junior and senior year.
So glad I found your channel!
This is a great video. Very honest and very helpful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I love these longer-style videos a lot, keep it up!
thank you!!
This was very encouraging! I’m currently taking Linear Algebra and I just don’t like it that much. It’s my first math class that involves proofs which I find very difficult. It also seems very abstract and i don’t really understand how it is applied. I preferred my Calculus classes because I could really see the big picture and it made more sense to me:)
Linear algebra is important in most machine learning concepts such as gradient descent.
It shows up a lot in quantum mechanics of all places
Trust me, you are not the only one that had struggled with Linear Algebra proofs. Calculus is relatively simple in context because you just keep reapplying the same formulas in different contexts (yeah, things like differentiation by parts is a pain in the ass to set up but once you have the problem structured, it’s just repetition to arrive at a solution). My daughter and I were on the ski slopes trying to work with her L.A. professor on a basic proof. I hope by now you’ve started to see the practical applications of It.
I've been watching all these videos and it's been super helpful towards my attitude around math and studying. Thank you!
You are so welcome!
Your videos inspired me to go back to school for a degree in Maths. I started last fall and I'm loving every second of it. Thank you so much!
Great video! I agree with everything you said! Not only is learning to teach yourself math a key to confidence and success in school, but it will ensure your pleasure in mathematics after schooling as well. Another thing I’ll add, related to how people react to you being a math major, is people who aren’t into math often don’t realize how vast and how abstract it gets. So to a lot of people you’re “the math guy” but this basically just means to them you’re “the numbers guy”. People would make remarks to me about doing this or that with numbers and I’m thinking “I haven’t seen a number in weeks, the last time I did mental arithmetic was to tip the pizza delivery guy, and that was a month ago because I’m too broke to afford another pizza delivery”
good comment thank you!!!!!!!!!
I really love this channel. in my entire university career you are probably the first person to ever talk about teaching yourself in such a negative (read positive lol) light. Ever since my first year all I've heard is people complain like "I am paying so much to teach myself all this stuff smh". To some extent I've always known that attitude was not very good, but it being basically my initial and primary influence, it really started to affect how I felt about going to class. I felt like I was just supposed to understand everything (or just most things) by the time class was done and if that didn't happen it was just because the teacher was bad or I felt like it was just not even in my abilities to grasp basic concepts. You may be the first person I've heard say that it is ok to start from little (or even nothing) and work yourself up from there; not only is it normal, it is basically expected. And the thing is, I don't even major in math haha.
All this to say that I feel like this video has really sent me in the right direction. Sure there will be less than great teachers but I will go into class from now on with a completely new mindset and I think that that is really exciting. Thank you so much :D
Awesome !! Such a good comment thank you!!
Thank you so much. I am currently struggling through my differential equations class and I needed this video 😊
5:30. Yep. A portion of my bachelor's classes. You can combine that with study groups, and it's a great way to learn.
This really needs more views. I felt like this was very necessary advice for newbies, math majors and anyone considering this rewarding field of study. I remember when you had less than 100k subscribers and I’m so happy people are listening and watching your channel. By the way, I’m just a regular guy and no genius at all, too. Love the content!
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Studying Mechatronics Engineering and your Differential equations videos are very helpful, thank you
Thank you!
Thank You for this ❤️
You are very welcome😀
Thank you very much! Your voice make me feel better and admire mathematics.
On the mark, thanks for the advice. Keep the inspirasjon, alive!
THANK YOU!!!
Good advice across all disciplines.
You are so motivational, il follow you from France and I am always feeling great and inspirated after I watch your vidéos!
Thank you so much!!
For the longest time I struggled with the very concept of math. I knew that math was very important in regards to life, and that if I wanted to get a career in a STEM field then I will have to learn it. But I couldn't grasped the concept when I was in High School due to the classes making the subject very unappealing while the teachers themselves were not very helpful in any regard. This in turn had lead me into developing a fear of never understanding the concept, which sucked a lot considering that I am highly curious and always desiring to get into the STEM fields in the future. A field that I could not enter because I would get anxiety over thinking that I will never be proficient in math to the point where I can apply as a STEM student.
But despite my anxiety attacks and fear-induced stress, I kept trying to do my best to find some way to conquer my fears and finally begin to learn how to comprehend the subject. Fortunately, at the old age of 25 years old, I am finally at the point where I can see how beautiful and fun can be. Which is great because I am planning on taking some classes at my local community college. I haven't really decided what degree and career path I want to take yet (that is why I am going to my local college in the first place after all), but I am feeling like this is the right time to take some math classes and possibly pursue a STEM degree. So thank you Math Sorcerer for making this video as this is just what I need in order to pursue the degree that I always want to get.
Sincerely,
A Prospective Math Student
Yo how are things going? It has been a year! I'd love to hear about your progress! Enjoying your math classes? Have you decided what you want? No rush! You have all the time in the world, just really curious to hear your progress! Your story was touching :)
I appreciate these videos so much !!
You are so welcome!
Yes I agree, self taught math majors are better
yes, for sure, it helps a lot!!!
I am a self-taught math learner,
self-learning is hard but the feeling of not understanding anything of a subject in math and finally understanding, it is very rewarding!
it's like your 1 step closer to understand the language of the universe ,but then you realize you are not even close and there are infinitely many more things to learn.
I agree certain people are better at certain types of Math, it is like it fits that person's personality or something.
Absolutely agree from all points ..
Studying maths with urself is always more helpfull instead u r depend on any others..
I wanted to be Math major through distance learning. But with job and children, I could not. i am inspired.
Yes it's so tough! Good luck:)
This excellent advice can apply to any degree!! (Except the part where people call you a genius 🤣 )
Be Resourceful! That is great advice. I cannot tell you how many times I have done better on an exam than most simply because I utilized many resources beyond lecture and the textbook. You can find additional problems in other books, read stuff on the internet, and especially watch videos on youtube. Watch 3 different videos explaining the same thing on youtube, and you will almost certainly get it.
Great video, as usual. :)
I totally agree with this
I couldn't agree more with the point that some people are better than others in different math subjects. I hate combinatorics for example, it's darn hard in my opinion, but really enjoyed studying real analysis and linear algebra!
I had a question relating to learning math in school, as well as to your points about teacher and subject differences and self study. I love self-teaching and delving into tangential material whenever I find something I enjoy, so I tend to hate the rigidity of courses and course sequences. I can get into most subjects if framed in the right way (abstract, rigorous, with big picture connections to other subjects highlighted), but I have lots of trouble connecting to most teachers' teaching styles because most are more applied and "locally-minded" than I like, leaving me to try to explore the big picture and theory on my own. This gets especially bad in Comp Sci courses (I'm doing a CS specialization) because the courses tend to be much more applied than I like, lots of emphasis on coding working algorithms or projects as opposed to writing proofs. Because of all this I have a hard time enduring "pain" for the courses I don't like even if I need to know the material, as I'll tend to focus my time disproportionately on the ones I like and neglect the other ones. Any advice about this?
Hey man; rly appreciate your videos - especially the book reviews. Is there any chance you could do one about research in maths? I take it there’s a gap between working through textbooks and coming up with something completely new so would be interesting to know how to bridge it...
It was honest man 💪🏼📚!!
I teach elementary school students, but I think this is a good way to teach them too. Students should take ownership of their learning. But, I feel like it's also a skill to ask for help. It's a kind of balance perhaps. Awesome video!
Oh it's totally a balance! Thank you!!
I really connected with all the things you mentioned in this video. I find it crazy also that people tell me that I am very smart because I do math or I am a math major. I always say, just because I am good at math does not mean I am good at other things. For example, I can do a math problem, but If you ask me anything about history or English, I am so lost. Also, I have had a teacher that my fellow classmates did not like, but I really liked him over time. He really grew on me. I would say to anyone who is reading this to try to get close to your teachers outside of class before you judge them.
I completely agree...Being a regular guy who has interest in mathematics and works really really really hard on it ,evolves him not only intellectually but it’s a spiritual uplift meant for that guy ,as he gives his all to solve and understand the most complicated things , which to a natural innate talent would do no much good as it just naturally comes to him...I personally feel that getting something by once sheer hard work than just by a natural flow of talent is far more rewarding and satisfying..Nature inclines to the one who gives his soul to something worthwhile...
It sounds like my experience has been similar to yours, Math Sorcerer. In Mathematics, in some sense, you really can become your own best professor if you develop the skills to teach yourself. Learning how to learn has proved to be the most valuable gift of my formal Mathematics education.
I have a class past Calc 3 called “intro to Algebraic Structures “ and I have no idea what that is . I was planning on taking Linear Algebra and ODE but both those classes don’t fit in my schedules sadly
Really good video chief :D
Thx 👍
I share your sentiments exactly. Also, my experiences with Graph Theory were similar. On my first introduction to it I didn't really like it all that much. Don;t get me wrong, I love all math. It's just that compared to other topics in math, Graph Theory was my least favorite. However, I do have an appreciation for it's usefulness and importance and I plan to either take a course or self-study it in depth sometime soon. Most non-math people will regard you as brilliant if you have a math degree. People struggle with math and find it very hard and it often becomes their least favorite subject. So, they are often very impressed with someone who can understand it well enough to get a math degree and/or even teach math. Also, self-study was a major part of my overall math education. For instance when it can time for me to take a course in Multi variable Calculus I immersed myself in deep self study of the topic during the Winter break. By the tiime I was enrolled in and actually taking the class I was already well versed in the topic and all the ideas. I already understood ideas such as multiple integrals, Lagrange Multipliers, Coordinate systems, Projections, and the theorems of Gauss, Green and Stokes, including the proofs. Indeed I was fluent enough that I was able to teach / tutor my fellow students.
Teaching yourself: due to a new work assignment, I've had to revisit Complex Analysis and the mathemagic of contour integrals, residues, conformal mapping, etc. I first came across Complex Analysis as a Physics Major in the 80's. In addition to cracking open my old textbooks on Mathematical Methods for Physics Geeks, I got a copy of "Applied Complex Variables" by Johh W. Dettman, and a copy of Shaum's Outline on the same. The stakes are still high since it's work-related, but it's also fun to study this in greater depth as a more "experienced" person.
Good analogy. Your 3rd point is a dream of mine. Only if time allowed it to become true.
Soo true!! Thanks it was very helpful.. i wish i discovered your chaneel earlier, because it gets really hard sometimes as a math major, and the math community is just like small or silent?!
I think it's small, there are not that many math majors:)
I saw "The intelligent investment" in math professor book shelf!!!
Thank you for this video; things and advices I will never hear from people
The 4th thing is a real one. I’m a math major myself and I am one of those (perhaps few) people who find analysis to be ‘easier’ than combinatorics. In high school, I struggled with counting problems, but I always thought that I just haven’t seen that many of counting before, so I decided to try a combinatorics class in college. While my interest in the subject grew, I had a miserable semester. Some of the problems took me a whole day, and most of my answers were inspired by my classmates’ ideas. In retrospect, I should add that my lack of experience in counting/thinking in discrete terms probably still had an effect on this. But the bottom line is, regardless of experience or natural inclination, it is important to be mindful when you are choosing your math classes.
P.S. combinatorics/graph theory is a cool field of math though. Definitely a refreshing perspective on math. Some of the notions you learn may even help you in probability or geometry. So, do give it a try!
I know exactly what you mean
Yeah, I understand the way they treat you is different, thing. I can relate.
I'm a central office tech in a large telecom company. When I speak to anyone that has even a little appreciation for how complex telecommunications is... they always have respect for that.
When people ask me how a call works, I can explain that, but often need a few hours of background fill in, before I can begin to explain how the system works. If their eyes don't glaze over first, that is.
The downside is, I have little patience for stupidity from those that aren't actually stupid. I try to be mindful of that.
I thought points 2 and 3 were particularly good. From my experience as a maths graduate, I have always believed that the teacher is only a catalyst for learning something and that you have to go away and teach yourself everything anyway to understand things properly. A good teacher does help though, as they can help you understand something quicker and it may take you less time and effort to learn that thing yourself when you go to review it. If the teacher is bad then you just go teach it to yourself anyway and the extra effort that you’ll be forced to put in will help to cement whatever you’re trying to learn in your head. To really understand something anyway requires you to think hard about the material, no matter whether you are taught it by a teacher or not.
I would say
6. Mathematicians are HAPPY!
I don’t know how to say this well and it might be a reemphasize of point 5… but there was always a very joyful ambiance in my math classes and amidst my classmates… we are happy!
I really liked Calculus and thought I'd love diff eq and partial diff eq since it was like basically more advanced calculus
I took diff eq and linear algebra in the same semester, absolutely *hated* diff eq and loved linear algebra, so, that threw me for a loop
2:54 "Some teachers are not as good as the other ones". So true.
There was a university math *Professor* (not Assistant or Associate) who, on day 1 of the class said, to the students: " I will BREAK every one of you ".
I dropped the class that day and decided to use self-study to learn the topic.
You are absolutely right concerning that the math majored person is respected by the people around you from my fifty years experience since my graduation of math major.
Namaste Sir, Thank you for making this video,
it would be helpfull if you put video for complete beginners who want to take maths for majors and how to start reading or studying maths bcz studying math is different from any other subjects . Thank you sir🙂
I have discovered that the ability to identify exactly what you don't know is very valuable when self teaching. I find that it helps in selecting the study material you will need.
my math classes turned into teacher would drop past my desk tell me read these pages solve then a few days later same or solve for
I truly think if you had existed back when I was in college my experience would have been so much better. I did not really understand what I needed to do to succeed when I was 18. Instead I bumbled through it.
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The benefit of having a daughter who was an undergrad math major is that at an older age I finally learned to appreciate and see the beauty in math. I have an MBA but math was never my strongest area. Calculus is easy in that you can generally get by through Calc I and II just by applying the formulas (thank God for u). But, it was my daughters high school AP Calc teacher who really cleared things for me. When I went to school in the dark ages, I was drilled in the Epsilon-Delta Definition of a limit. I had to literally regurgitate it on a test. I didn’t understand a damn thing. My daughter’s AP teachers went into limits first, explained them fully with lots of examples (limits from the left, limits from the right, indeterminate limits, etc..) and then introduced the Epsilon-Delta definition. That’s when the light turned on for me… only 20 years after my MBA. It all made sense. I enjoy math now and can see it everywhere. Favorite is still the golden ratio/Fibonacci sequence and all of its applications found in nature. It’s kind of past me now but at least can grasp topics like Fourier Analysis (and it’s applications in fluid mechanics and animation).
It is funny too.. how people think all math majors are geniuses. They’re smart and dedicated but just like everyone else. An undergrad in math is not that difficult with the right teachers, depending upon the rigors of the program. I remember my daughters linear algebra professor had just gotten his PhD and was so pumped to see invitations and placards that said Dr. 😂😂 He earned it but it was funny to watch how psyched he was about it. I have an MBA in MIS but you’d never know it. I don’t have my diploma hanging up and frankly, it wasn’t all that difficult to get..I’m not particularly proud of it except for finishing it.
Math Sorcerer is a math Genius!
Hardest thing about math is there is never an upper limit to learning it. The limit is the sky. There is always uncovered scenarios and novel ways to approach a problem. A math specialist is one that is well trained to model a wide range of problems and come up with novel solutions that may or may not have been in print. The beauty of math lies in its various techniques or approaches that all confirm the proposition. For instance, you may use algebra, calculus or geometry to prove the Newton’s laws of motion, and any and all would confirm the result. The overlap between different branches in mathematics is really fascinating. Systems of differential equations and linear algebra for instance are inseparable. Geometry and trigs is yet another. Abstract Algebra and analysis and so on. Many may think that mathematicians are so logical that they lack creativity, but nothing as such is far from the truth. Finally, math is something that must be lived day in and day out. It doesn’t forgive rusting out. Big rewards are only for excellent serious mathematicians. In other field, you might get away with being a mediocre, but not the case with math.
currently in the thick of real analysis and reallllly hating it. i’ve never questioned my major more. but next semester i get to take partial diffy qs and another analysis class, so it won’t all be bad. just excited for the day when i never have to use ε again in a proof.
It would be interesting to know how does it feel for for the Math Sorcerer to be the one who spreads math/life motivation for many people on RUclips and to be a teacher who also brings happiness and helps many young people to realize their ambitions in real life...
think i did bad on my partial differential equations midterm...gotta keep my head up
I'm a math major, and I really hit a wall. I'm taking a break to do some self-study, make a little money, and hopefully gain some new perspective. So much of this is resonating with me.
Regarding point #5 and the “math genius “ moniker: I have a Math PhD and for better or worse I can’t go to any local haunt (diner, bar, cigar lounge, etc.) without being referred to as “Professor “.
Ye. I'm taking linear algebra, and I'm definitely not feeling it. Simple calculations, but so many theorems and rules and what not. Plus the exams are almost nothing like the homework.
I'm in a postion now to have the time to learn all that I missed in the math and science sphere some 46 years ago. With the help to videos -- Who would have thought of the internet in 1977? -- I am determined to make amends. Ironically, when I quit linear algebra in frustration, my professor told me I would need it. Well, I haven't because of severe underemployment, but now I see a need for it. -- not for engineering (which I wasn't a major, anyway), but for data science. Most importantly, I'm not learning for a job, which was the bane of the time, but rather to keep up my mental facilities.
Hola Math Sorcerer! Eres de Cuba no? Cuantos años tenias cuando te mudaste de Cuba a los EEUU?
Wish I've met you 20 years ago when i was a kid!
I’ve always loved math but it has never come easy. Recently I’ve added math as a double major alongside my almost-completed chemistry degree. Do you think I have a chance at the harder classes if i’m sort of struggling in Calc 2 at the moment? Thanks for your time
Could you do a book review on Calculus Vol. 1 by Apostol?
Yes I should do that!!
Math is not easy. It is very hard and you could never finish it. There is always more and it will consume your whole life but it is beautiful and worth every effort you make to learn it. It is simply grand. The thing with teaching yourself math, I tried that and ended up becoming a math teacher (online). I am not in any way famous but it happened that way. There is something magical that happens when you start explaining math on videos to others; words start to flow which is not really your doing anymore. Thank you for your valuable videos (sorry I do not know your name sir)!
the teacher thing is very true, for majors across the board. it's also true that sometimes what people say about teachers is wrong. when I was in high school, our honors chem teacher had a horrible reputation. but when I got into his class, I did fine. teachers people loved I sometimes didn't like. it's variable!
I am in 5th semester and currently having 5 math classes simulatneously
Awesome video! Fun Fact: Math and Statistic majors scored the best on the MCAT (Medical-School Admission Test) in 2019-2020. Statistics are not accurate considering the number of applicants that are math or statistic majors is low but still cool to know!
You're not a regular guy. You're the Math Sorcerer!
oh wow, that is just awesome!!
thank you!!!
Please make a video on branches of Mathematics
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Im in CS. I also hate graph theory.
Now Im wondering what I really like lmfaoo.
I loved calculus. Got 98% in all my calc classes.
But im seriously about to fail my graph theory class.
I can do programming just fine. But translate that logic into normal words, and it just becomes unintuitive to me.
I fucking suck at counting too.
Maybe I might like Analysis more. I really despise combinatorical stuff.
Sometimes I wish I tried my hand at a maths degree, major in stats or applied math. (First year discrete maths scared the hell out of me, and I thought I was awesome at maths back in high school.) Already have an engineering degree though, so the math degree seems pointless job wise. That being said, I love writing code in MATLAB for computational fluid dynamics and doing excel stuff.
Please can make about the best geometry books