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  • @JkDubbed
    @JkDubbed 6 лет назад +17

    You guys are such a big influence to what is possible on the internet in 2018..I've watched your channel grow from the 5k views on the old "Top 10" videos where it was just audio with card overlays for the videos to now 70k views on a single video with 150k subs, traveling, doing all the things that I bet you could've only imagined years ago.
    Keep up the great work! 🙏

  • @liemsolow3697
    @liemsolow3697 6 лет назад +45

    4:15 to skip ads and watch the Battlebond Preview
    22:20 to Watch what we all came here for

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 6 лет назад +18

    General rule of thumb when dealing with infinite sacrifice engines: if you don't have graveyard hate to stop it, FOCUS YOUR REMOVAL ON THE SAC OUTLETS!
    Of all the combo pieces, the sac outlets are usually the hardest ones to recur/replace when neutralized, as they're fewer in number and many of them are noncreature permanents.
    Yes, I'm aware that the Shadowborn Apostles are all potential sac outlets, but as the game showed, Razaketh and Phyrexian Altar were the key pieces that allowed Josh to save his other key cards from exile/shuffle and combo off, respectively. Razaketh, in particular, not only "protected" both Edgewalker and Blood Artist, but also allowed Josh to tutor for whatever card he needed in order to maintain his engine and recur lost pieces.

  • @jasonsteavens158
    @jasonsteavens158 2 года назад +7

    So 4 years of cards later... and a reprint of our namesake card has brought me back to this.
    Bolas's Citadel seems like a good way to get all opponents in the danger zone to give apostles back.

    • @WarbossGazbag
      @WarbossGazbag Год назад +1

      Me too man I just got this deck, playing it for the first time tonight!

  • @Cryonicity
    @Cryonicity 6 лет назад +68

    22:20 topic starts but you'd be skipping LEGENDary pack openings.

  • @kevincullers5987
    @kevincullers5987 6 лет назад +39

    I don't know if this was mentioned, but aetherflux reservoir is insane in this deck.

    • @Worldly_Pitfall3
      @Worldly_Pitfall3 Год назад

      Isn’t necessary if you’re going infinite with shadowborn apostle and athreos

    • @supersaiyankitsune5192
      @supersaiyankitsune5192 Год назад

      @@Worldly_Pitfall3 just another value life gain / wincon I think it’s great add to this

  • @cheshirect
    @cheshirect 6 лет назад +7

    Hey guys, awesome vid. Hey Josh I hope you get to see this. I highly suggest removing the Xathrid Necromancer and replacing it with a Rotlung Reanimator. its the same card but with minor differences. It activates when a cleric dies, and the most important part, your zombies come into play untapped!

  • @jimsherbahn102
    @jimsherbahn102 6 лет назад +67

    really wish we had been able to see this deck get interacted with a bit more on Game Knights... felt like it just rolled the other three decks with ease.

    • @TheMystcast
      @TheMystcast 6 лет назад +8

      You might be right, this deck might not be even that good and the other decks just didnt hit the ground running like he was. It could all have been luck but us the viewers seen how it works and wants to further improve that and learn from Josh. It was a really good episode. One of the best and I think that is because they used home brewed decks and not a theme they got requested to do.

    • @dewolx7411
      @dewolx7411 6 лет назад +16

      I'm more curious about Jimmy's deck since it didn't even play

    • @josharnold6546
      @josharnold6546 6 лет назад +1

      Actually one of the reasons I play cranial extraction had a bad experience against athreos early in my commander career even if I don't know what my opponents I can go for staples like chromatic lantern

    • @GodwynDi
      @GodwynDi 6 лет назад +6

      It was a pretty close game really. As the professor said, he was about to combo out on his next turn. One player getting mana screwed hurts the politics a lot also.
      And then there is the deck of random attacking. Everyone got to watch why those decks tend to do poorly. He had a lot of answers, but one of his main things, attacking with the voltron creature, he had no control over. Couldn't target the person who was ahead, nor could he hold back on the guy that was mana screwed and trying to catch up and maybe team up against the deck that was ahead.

    • @PaulGaither
      @PaulGaither 6 лет назад +2

      To be fair, the play line is rather simple: get 6 SBA, use them to find a tutor demon, then tutor for something that helps you dig out an engine and keep going.
      This deck can be hated put in a much similar way as to many combos: graveyard hate.
      When the 6 SBA go to the yard the first time with Athreos triggers on the stack, nuke the graveyard.
      It takes a long time for that deck to get back to another 6 SBA and should die.

  • @rinsgravity2007
    @rinsgravity2007 6 лет назад +9

    So my theory is that this game caused the price of apostle to go up AND leave many sites out of stock for them. Impressive. But I honestly do want the deck because it has my favorite color combo, sacrifice shenanigans and I'm pretty sure I could throw in a tribe engine in that super easily. Then there's so much I could love this even more. Draining life and gaining it is a fun way for me to win and yeah. I'll probably wait like a year to get this deck but I could run into someone that may not want it. Thanks for the great video guys!

  • @escioe
    @escioe 6 лет назад +2

    Really appreciate the quicker intros lately. Totally noticeable and makes the episodes flow better. Nice work.

  • @abderianagelast7868
    @abderianagelast7868 6 лет назад +7

    48:45 This actually brings up a good question: why didn't you let Chaos Warp resolve, then immediately tutor for those cards again with Razaketh? You already used him to avoid the trigger, so I suppose it could be to get the other cards, but at the same time it gives you the potential to gain a new permanent without any real cost to you.

  • @GrixisCactus
    @GrixisCactus 6 лет назад +88

    The devil went down to the command zone,
    He was lookin for a soul ring to steal,

    • @bobthegamingtaco6073
      @bobthegamingtaco6073 6 лет назад +13

      Deathwatcher77 he was in a bind because he was way behind, and he was willing to make a deal.
      Then he came up on a young man sawin on the orzhov and playin it hot.

    • @yousifzaid8565
      @yousifzaid8565 6 лет назад +5

      Bob The Gaming Taco he said "young boy let this resolve or the orzhov player will win let me tell you what!"

    • @itzpharaoh2325
      @itzpharaoh2325 6 лет назад +2

      Deathwatcher77 There should be a card called soul ring that is a sol ring but you have to sacrifice a creature when it enters the battlefield or you sacrifice it

    • @GrixisCactus
      @GrixisCactus 6 лет назад +2

      99% GAMER Would it just be the same other than that? Or would it have a better effect due to having to sacrifice?

    • @itzpharaoh2325
      @itzpharaoh2325 6 лет назад +2

      Deathwatcher77 it would be the same except it is legal in 1v1 Commander and is a second copy of sol ring essentially or maybe it also has a second ability like
      2: return target creature sacrificed with soul ring from the graveyard to the battlefield tapped under its owners control
      Or something like that

  • @michaelmolzan3001
    @michaelmolzan3001 6 лет назад +10

    I like how everyone else has their commander behind them in the game knights thumbnail but Josh has the shadowborn apostle.

  • @klenlapis6329
    @klenlapis6329 3 года назад +1

    It’s cool that I ended up creating this deck several years ago. Found you guys maybe 2 months ago and one card I have in mine is Teysa Karlov. Doubles death triggers, so double demons, double Athreos damage, double Razaketh, double altar. It’s really amazing

    • @NathanBiller
      @NathanBiller Год назад

      Drivnod, Carnage Dominus now does the same thing for one more mana!

  • @solotopp
    @solotopp 6 лет назад +1

    The deck seemed so resilient; that's part of what drew me to it. It was so fun watching it go off.

  • @radiantburrito
    @radiantburrito 6 лет назад +125

    They knew what we wanted lol

    • @TheMystcast
      @TheMystcast 6 лет назад +1

      Was about to comment this exact thing. That deck was just straight up bonkers!

  • @piquelle2774
    @piquelle2774 5 лет назад +2

    I added aetherflux to combo with thrumming stone or another graveyard grabber. You can easily kill everyone in a 4 player game of commander with that combo. I also added altar of the brood to combo with phyrexian altar as an infinit mill combo. I replaced macabre waltz with phyrexian reclamation and added devout chaplain as an artifact and enchantment destroyer.

  • @abelyewondwossen1123
    @abelyewondwossen1123 6 лет назад +1

    i loved watching jlk's deck during the game knights episode and it's so cool that it got a deck profile. it would be awesome to see the deck gets updated and improved and appear in another game knights episode, as well as another deck profile showing off the deck version 2.0!

  • @LedPESRule
    @LedPESRule 6 лет назад +26

    BattleBond is such an awesome set for us commander players, I'm so hyped!

    • @alexmendozaarchdemonofburg7856
      @alexmendozaarchdemonofburg7856 6 лет назад +2

      LedPESRule the black 'you can't lose the game this turn' bahahaha

    • @nottobay6768
      @nottobay6768 6 лет назад +1

      I'm looking forward to testing cheering fanatic in cEdh same for the blue black land.

    • @YourPalRowan
      @YourPalRowan 6 лет назад

      I conveniently need a doubling season

  • @danacoleman4007
    @danacoleman4007 6 лет назад +94

    When does the Jimmy's haircut Kickstarter page go up?

    • @zerohbg7389
      @zerohbg7389 6 лет назад +1

      good question xD

    • @jorian8834
      @jorian8834 6 лет назад

      With 3 sponsors and with a patreon they should have plenty of money. Still wondering why they still got patreon

    • @TheMaddestHatter234
      @TheMaddestHatter234 6 лет назад

      the point of patreon is to give back to the creators of content you consume

    • @mikehunt5833
      @mikehunt5833 5 лет назад

      God speed

  • @stephenmiller7834
    @stephenmiller7834 6 лет назад +12

    Finding and buying Shadowborn Apostles has been fun since you guys brewed this deck! Everyone is ordering and pillaging local shops for 30 or better Shadowborn Apostles...LoL, you guys get paid to market?

    • @sloth9669
      @sloth9669 6 лет назад +1

      Stephen Miller got my 32 copies about a month ago 👍🏻

  • @maxw2210
    @maxw2210 6 лет назад +4

    I been playing almost the exact same deck
    You should consider "demon of dark schemes" I use it to bring back useful demons that somehow went to my graveyard and to go on a infinite loop with "Angel of glory rise"

  • @MrJkwatson23
    @MrJkwatson23 6 лет назад

    I built this deck a while back, and was happy to see it played on Game Knights again. It's super fun to play, but can result in taking some long turns which might annoy your opponents. JLK plays it a lot fast than I do since he's been playing it for years, so maybe it's more an experience issue.
    If you don't like the drain mechanic as a win-con, I offer a couple of alternatives:
    Make 'em big: Cathar's Crusade, Coat of Arms, Door of Destinies (bonus for Cathar's because you can one-shot with Athreos)
    Sack 'em for lots of mana and cast big X spell: Torment of Hailfire (used with Black Market, Phyrexian Arena, Urborg/Cabal Coffers/Nykthos)
    It usually become pretty obvious which direction you want to go based on your card draw. Either way, it's a ton of fun, and it feels pretty good to get that 6th apostle on the board and start your engine. As you can see from the Game Knights episode, it's pretty agile in that it slides around a lot of the standard Commander responses.

  • @mattman8436
    @mattman8436 6 лет назад

    This deck has so much value. Decks like these make me want to run a copy of lost legacy in every commander deck. I still want to see Jimmy's Neheb deck go off.

  • @themagicofmagicthegatherin6533
    @themagicofmagicthegatherin6533 6 лет назад +1

    Already designing my coin flips matters deck. Izzet is always an amusing color combination and I love using it in ways that aren't usually thought of.
    Anyway, great episode breaking down a fun deck! I love combo type decks like this with such a fun mechanic! Thanks for sharing it with us.

    • @TehSeksyManz
      @TehSeksyManz 6 лет назад

      The Magic of Magic the Gathering Too bad Kark's Thumb exploded in price.

  • @IzzetRight
    @IzzetRight 6 лет назад +9

    Dark Salvage was form Aether revolt. Tendrils of Agony targets a single player.

    • @forceofnatureDGX
      @forceofnatureDGX 6 лет назад

      Yeah, I was surprised that they overlooked that detail as well.

    • @IzzetRight
      @IzzetRight 6 лет назад +2

      That is a neat detail that I did not realise was available. That makes tendrils much better.

  • @saulherrera4750
    @saulherrera4750 6 лет назад +1

    Shadowing apostle made realize the utility of sever the bloodline. I play that card in all of my black decks now, because it's good against shadowborj apostle and token decks.

  • @HumanDictionary7
    @HumanDictionary7 6 лет назад +10

    Was that a Charlie Daniels' Devil Went Down To Georgia opening?? Nicely done mouth violin 😂😂

  • @NicksMagicstorytime
    @NicksMagicstorytime 6 лет назад +1

    My buddy plays this deck and we play a lot of one vs. one. My best play against him was when playing my Kess of Betrayal deck. He had me at single digits and I top decked and main-phase cast Supplant Form on his Runescared, and used the tutor for my Rackdos Charm, cause he had finally got a Shadowborn in his yard, and I just knew he was going to try to Secret Salvage it on his turn. I exiled his yard in response to the Secret Salvage and won the game by the skin of my teeth using his own cards against him. Priceless.

  • @FoodtimeFoodtime
    @FoodtimeFoodtime 6 лет назад

    I've been piloting different apostle decks for about 5 years, White/Green are so powerful its almost necessary. Blue is nice for countermagic, but red is great for Purphuros style effects and wheels :)

  • @PlaneswalkerProject
    @PlaneswalkerProject 6 лет назад +11

    Josh has one hell of a brutal game. I'd love to see his strongest deck in action sometime!

  • @SuiKabui
    @SuiKabui 6 лет назад

    tendrils of agony only drains one person, so you usually only kill 1-2 people with thrumming stone or one rotation with edgewalker or stuff like that, but it's still really good, especially when you go infinite, which you tend to do quite reliably. awesome deck JLK, keep up the good work!

    • @PaulGaither
      @PaulGaither 5 лет назад

      Each individual copy can target a different player. With a high enough storm count, you can drain everyone.

  • @Alron222
    @Alron222 6 лет назад

    Cool deck, I've also had a similar one forever. Two things I'd suggest are Gary and Nykthos, as you can get really high devotion easily with apostles / grave pact. And also, maybe a Pitiless Plunderer, though I haven't tried that one myself. And Cabal Stronghold would probably also be an easy inclusion now that Dominaria is out.

  • @sushimandaddi
    @sushimandaddi 6 лет назад

    this deck is so imaginative and awesome! would love to see more decks with these sort of interesting mechanics

  • @larsclaassen7839
    @larsclaassen7839 6 лет назад +19

    The stock of shadow born appostle dropped by10% at cardmarket

  • @ligerzero2742
    @ligerzero2742 2 года назад

    Anyone else coming to check out this deck tech after the double masters 2022 reprint?
    Also @TheCommandZone would love to see what Josh’s updated version of the deck looks like after all the new cards that have been printed over the years!

  • @GigaLordShinyMudkip1
    @GigaLordShinyMudkip1 6 лет назад

    I have been playing this decl since 2015 and I can confirm that 30 is the sweet spot for this style of playing shadowborn with Athreos. I play with 31.

  • @Foxpawed
    @Foxpawed 6 лет назад +2

    I want to build the coinflip commander deck. Call it; Izzet Heads or Tails?
    Also: I can see Bontu's Monument being useful when someone's trying to slow you down by playing taxes.

  • @rexmate5847
    @rexmate5847 6 лет назад +8

    Im planing to do a double headed giant whit Shadow born apostles and call the duo
    “The church of shadows”

  • @joedempsey3499
    @joedempsey3499 6 лет назад

    This black white deck is awesome! Insanely cool thank you for showing it.

  • @JoyousOblivion
    @JoyousOblivion 6 лет назад

    Not sure if this video helped but Shadowborn apostle basically sold out everywhere now locally and online (SCG, CFB and Card Kingdom have 2 copies combined lol). Oh and the card is $2.50 for a common from a core set lol. Well done Josh/Jimmy :)

  • @kukitanuki4037
    @kukitanuki4037 6 лет назад

    my friend is actually running Tymna the Weaver + Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa as his apostles commanders! The extra draw power is a godsend for apostles and Sidar ensures they connect!
    The green is huge for Bloodbond March!

    • @FoodtimeFoodtime
      @FoodtimeFoodtime 6 лет назад

      I expanded out to blue for countermagic to protect my dudes, but the Kondo tech is awesome though! (Tymna is also a Human Cleric for dat tribal!)

    • @FoodtimeFoodtime
      @FoodtimeFoodtime 6 лет назад

      I expanded out to blue for countermagic to protect my dudes, but the Kondo tech is awesome though! (Tymna is also a Human Cleric for dat tribal!)

  • @airkami
    @airkami 6 лет назад +1

    Best follow up to an insanely fun Game Knights

  • @justinturner5704
    @justinturner5704 6 лет назад

    So glad I got my playmat today! Also, I’m on the process of building this deck! I think it’ll be a fun addition to our meta

  • @philipdaviddavies9478
    @philipdaviddavies9478 6 лет назад +4

    ahhh permutations for flipping coins... classic discrete math question from college :D

  • @PhazonOmega
    @PhazonOmega 6 лет назад

    "You have to have very specific counterspells to deal with storm."
    And that's why I love Flusterstorm!

  • @patrickgambler8585
    @patrickgambler8585 6 лет назад +3

    Uuuh, this deck is sweet. But surgical extraction might just kill the whole plan right away... :-) btw Jimmy, your Hair looks sweet as well. ;-) Oh, and against life gain... There's a demon called archfiend of despair, which I play in my own build of this deck. archfiend of despair prevents opponents from gaining life.

    • @zachariahwright9732
      @zachariahwright9732 6 лет назад +1

      Patrick Gambler Lost Legacy, I think is the name of the card, also wrecks it pretty badly

    • @beckettjames5661
      @beckettjames5661 4 года назад

      Patrick Gambler yea but who tf plays surgical cuz it legit does nothing but dealing w shadowborn apostle in commander

    • @NoBody-ro3xj
      @NoBody-ro3xj 3 года назад

      I know this is an old comment but if you remove 30 cards you leave nothing but lands and good stuff

  • @FANTAVISION
    @FANTAVISION 6 лет назад +148

    Look, another video that is going to empty my wallet on cardboard!

    • @CrypticBore
      @CrypticBore 6 лет назад +3

      proxy

    • @FANTAVISION
      @FANTAVISION 6 лет назад +3

      In my group, we don't allow proxies

    • @CrypticBore
      @CrypticBore 6 лет назад +3

      Fair im my group and even my lgs allows them and infact its to the point i can print out a whole deck and play it at fnm EDH, its just i get no prizes and people who come second get the prize. i offered to pay entry not to get prizes just to support the store (not . but they said no)
      There was only one person at the store that was upset with this news but he brings teir 1 cEDH to what is essentially a very casual play environment. I can understand why he's upset though as he has paid above and beyond the price for entry and invested so much money and im going to be using some of the cards he has spent so much money on its ridiculous (he proxies his cards to protect them but he does bring and own them)
      so im going to print out a deck on photo paper janky expensive fun and probs another like it on 0.300mm card paper using digital alters and things. ill still be sleeving them up
      ive made a template for scibus so i can drag and drop 2 cards per 6x4 photo (5aud for a 100 cards) and there was already an a4 for available if i go for the thicker card at a printing store if they allow it. (10aud)
      im going to be selling my real mtg collection soon i think.

    • @alexbest8481
      @alexbest8481 6 лет назад

      FANTAVISION 🇫🇮🇨🇾🇨🇴🇨🇴

    • @maxw2210
      @maxw2210 6 лет назад

      I was able to get 40 shadowborn apostle for around 1 buck card when khans of tarkir just came out,

  • @MaNU7908
    @MaNU7908 6 лет назад +1

    I think rally the ancestors would be quite good in this deck actually. Bring al of them back fro 3 mana, then sac them right away so they dont get exiled... also, bring something else in a moment of need paying a bit more mana, and with that much sacrifice cards, you can just sac everything, and force somebody to put all of those back in your hand

  • @Wiseguy150
    @Wiseguy150 6 лет назад

    Josh! You should either run this card instead of, or in addition to, Xanthrid necromancer. ROTLUNG REANIMATOR. Same thing but triggers on clerics and the zombies are untapped! Hope you see this!

  • @vengray8055
    @vengray8055 6 лет назад +2

    Sweet clerks reference at the beginning. BEERRSERKER

  • @Mediamatix
    @Mediamatix Год назад

    If you still have the deck take that monument out for all those reasons you said and instead use "Pious Evangel / Wayward Disciple".
    It nets in 1 extra mana cost (asuming it got cost reduced by Edgewalker) but it can be reanimated by the Angel among other things. Starts off winning you life with no damage to your enemies (like half Bloodartist), so it tends to fly under the radar. It looks like you circle Apostels for pure life gain, then you transform it and it becomes the damage half instead.

  • @waffleman2211
    @waffleman2211 6 лет назад +6

    It That Betrays. I shall be taking those apostles, thank you very much.

    • @georgethekingiv
      @georgethekingiv 6 лет назад

      I run it in my Apostle deck. Paired with grave pact it's disgusting

  • @Pocalem
    @Pocalem 6 лет назад

    Im hoping VRV comes to Canada soon so I can get in and use your code. Also, Jimmy looks like he's still not over what happened in that game.

  • @CodenameJD
    @CodenameJD 6 лет назад +17

    Dang, sorry you got your preview sniped by the promos leaking :/

  • @oom-3262
    @oom-3262 6 лет назад +11

    How to really shadowborn:
    Make a shadowborn apostle deck with 0 demons.
    They won't see it comin'

  • @typoholic
    @typoholic 6 лет назад

    I love these Deck Tech videos. This needs to become a thing.

  • @matthewabbott4683
    @matthewabbott4683 6 лет назад

    That deck is amazing and I might build me a version of it when I finish my first commander deck.

  • @diegosaez4885
    @diegosaez4885 6 лет назад

    Hey Josh, with Battlebond comming on, do you have any plans on adding Archfiend of Despair to the deck? It synergyzes really well with Athreos' passive.

  • @danielwomer
    @danielwomer 6 лет назад

    Great opening song! Loved it! And congrats on the Battlebond preview!

  • @jacobdespain1411
    @jacobdespain1411 6 лет назад

    I feel like ever since this episode went up all I've been facing on Untap is decks like this. Maybe it's just me and my bad luck . . . but my Nicol Bolas deck does not fare well against these types of decks. Time to use one of my own to combat this madness! 🤓😏😜
    (BTW, love your videos. Keep it up!)

  • @oom-3262
    @oom-3262 6 лет назад +12

    We REALLY need a shadowborn apostle reprint...
    It's a dollar card common come on...

    • @sloth9669
      @sloth9669 6 лет назад +1

      OOM- 32 other commons are over $5.

    • @oom-3262
      @oom-3262 6 лет назад +2

      sloth9669 but you don't need about 30 to 40 on your deck

    • @Zakaru99
      @Zakaru99 6 лет назад +5

      OOM-32 But needing 30 to 40 in your deck is precisely why they cost so much, because it drastically increases demand.

    • @oom-3262
      @oom-3262 6 лет назад +2

      Hence the need of a reprint for it

    • @benjamind.8271
      @benjamind.8271 6 лет назад +1

      Yeah it’s almost $5 now

  • @brannantisdale815
    @brannantisdale815 6 лет назад +3

    I got the intro song so quickly, don't know if I should be happy or ashamed.

  • @henrytobler1368
    @henrytobler1368 6 лет назад

    Bontu's Monument is already covered, Oketra's Monument would create a 1/1 you can sacrifice every time you recast Shadowborn, Rhonas's Monument would let you give your indestructible commander +2/+2 every time you recast a Shadowborn which would give you a commander damage win condition very easy.

  • @barttie217
    @barttie217 6 лет назад

    I am using a Rotlung Reanimator in my version of this deck. Basically a second Xathrid Necromancer. It is hilarious to use the Apostle ability and generate 2 zombies per Apostle.

  • @DerDarkfire1
    @DerDarkfire1 6 лет назад

    Minute 53:00. Jimmy changed to many lands for the shiny things out, as Gameknights is proofing over and over again. :D

    • @DerDarkfire1
      @DerDarkfire1 6 лет назад

      Oh my god, he named it after I stopped pausing this video fro writing my comment.

    • @DerDarkfire1
      @DerDarkfire1 6 лет назад

      Also: you totally fucked up on the effect of Tendrils of Agony. But a great video, nontheless.
      EDIT: Never mind, me and some other people seems to have fucked up. Since it's a storm trigger and you can cast it multiple times, I assume you can also choose new targets with it.

  • @antonhangano952
    @antonhangano952 6 лет назад +2

    I don't know if someone put this. I didn't go throw all the coments but @JoshLeeKwai Is it not better to put rotlung reanimator instead of the Xathrid? You would get the tokens untapped since the apostle is also cleric.

  • @thesilvershroud4710
    @thesilvershroud4710 6 лет назад

    I think this may be my favorite deck on Game Knights!

  • @sloth9669
    @sloth9669 6 лет назад

    Glad I bought most of this deck list last month.

  • @rovan_nei
    @rovan_nei 4 года назад

    I'm not a person who had seen all episods of the Command Zone and maybe it was mentioned earlier. But looking this deck tech back I thought that Shadowborn Apostle deck may run one additional battle plan (and an aditional wincon) with the Liliana's Contract from M19.

  • @nottobay6768
    @nottobay6768 6 лет назад

    Chains of mephistophilies is a staple in competitive edh for generals like tasigur and gitrog that git around the effect.

  • @fblthpmagic1802
    @fblthpmagic1802 6 лет назад

    Krark’s thumb with Zndrsplt and okaum is insane. My new brew

  • @evileyeball
    @evileyeball 6 лет назад +2

    My favorite Real LIfe partners are Daniel and Henrick Sedin... but sadly they retired this year :(

  • @marcferrer2375
    @marcferrer2375 4 года назад

    Can you put your new deck in somewhere? I will see it. It's my favorite deck. With all, and if you could, with sideboard. So amazing, thanks for all

  • @nicolaib4711
    @nicolaib4711 6 лет назад

    Not to interested about the team part about Battle Bond, but MAN some of the reprints are A M A Z I N G!

  • @Tazildayah
    @Tazildayah 6 лет назад

    A friend of mine has a remembrance sneak attack deck using creatures that shuffle themselves back in on death triggers. It works wonders.
    Also, why not teysa, orzhov scion instead of that zombie maker? It gives you 2 creatures to sac but also gives you removal for any annoying creatures on the board that might hurt your gameplan.

  • @benjaminlehman3221
    @benjaminlehman3221 6 лет назад +2

    Zndrsplt with karnak’s thumb. That would be great.

  • @hawkeye137137
    @hawkeye137137 6 лет назад

    Some cards that can combat against this deck decently while being good against other decks that I can think of are soul sisters, Suture Priest, Falkenrath Noble and Blood Artist since they don't care if the dying creature is yours or not, Pestilence and Pyrohemia probably and cards that give constant -1/-1 to creatures like Elesh Norn. Deck is resilient against single target removals and wraths, but constant punishing effects like these can be difficult to play around.

  • @arielfeldman8077
    @arielfeldman8077 6 лет назад

    I would also definitely recommend Rotlung Reanimator as a strictly better Xathrid Necromancer.

  • @andrewsigrist9981
    @andrewsigrist9981 6 лет назад

    I find it interesting that you guys didnt mention the graveyard replacement effects in the section about playing against this deck. Cards like Leyline of the Void, Rest in Peace, and Abzan Anafenza completely turn this deck off.
    Actually it was one of my friends who has an Anafenza commander deck that made me retire this deck because she just makes the whole deck do nothing.

  • @danpearman270
    @danpearman270 6 лет назад +1

    Great deck (and looked great on Game Knights) - but for some reason it's making me think I should put Meddling Mage and Nevermore back into my decks ;)

  • @Deadpool_1520
    @Deadpool_1520 6 лет назад

    I'm going to try to use Overseer of the Damned, and Archfiend of Depravity. I like their effects, and to save some money I'm going to use as many cards that I already own before buying the core cards that this deck is built around.

  • @Mr_Myst13
    @Mr_Myst13 6 лет назад +1

    Josh, you've said you feel 2 more Shadowborn Apostles are needed for the deck...
    If so, what cards are you thinking of cutting to make room for those 2???

  • @saharaforest7507
    @saharaforest7507 Год назад

    I use gift of immortality with Rune-Carver so I can keep sacrificing him on everyone's turn and tutor into whatever cards work for the situation

  • @tempusaeturnum920
    @tempusaeturnum920 6 лет назад

    You guys should consider doing an episode of game knights where you all use decks built within a budget

  • @jordancarlson6556
    @jordancarlson6556 4 года назад

    That GK episode is what made shadowborn apostle skyrocket in price.

  • @182jadams
    @182jadams 6 лет назад

    Love the playmat. Great episode guys. Keep it up.

  • @draxthemsklonst
    @draxthemsklonst 6 лет назад

    Great deck, may consider vulnerability to enchantments. Removal needed. Pyrohemia, Humility, or even a simple Curse of Deaths Hold or Engineered Plague. Great, aggressive, insanely awesome deck, though.

  • @peniasd
    @peniasd 6 лет назад +1

    They should totally errata Gisela and Bruna so they both can be your parthner commanders.

  • @yubeeeep
    @yubeeeep 6 лет назад

    so happy to see this deck get revisited i built my own version of the deck very similar concepts. have u thought about dark tutelage in the deck for draw help

  • @VVhirl
    @VVhirl 6 лет назад

    I was really sad when I figured out Shadowborn Apostle wasn't the preview card. We need a Shadowborn Apostle reprint SO BAD. Almost 2 bucks for a common printed in m14, thats nuts.

  • @Darlantan1
    @Darlantan1 6 лет назад

    How reliant is the deck on Atheros being out? Would it be a viable strategy to just keep exiling Atheros until it's too expensive to cast again at which point getting your Shadowborn Apostles back becomes much more difficult?

  • @aventh1114
    @aventh1114 6 лет назад

    Oh nice, quite a few people in my group tend to test out decks that did well in someones video... good thing my zur runs solidary confinement and nevermore haha

  • @babyplaneswalker341
    @babyplaneswalker341 6 лет назад

    I would love to see an athreos persist deck. 'Wanna send it to my graveyard?' Lol

  • @not-a-theist8251
    @not-a-theist8251 6 лет назад

    Battlebond looks pretty nice. I like the art becauae its so special and the mechanics look pretty cool

  • @exzir34
    @exzir34 6 лет назад

    Really neat with the packs, but I'm super excited for the battlebond set!

  • @NopeNadda18
    @NopeNadda18 6 лет назад +1

    Can you guys please, please acknowledge the pervasive card quality issue that is effecting the cards from Dominaria too? I just bought a box and the coils have “Pringled” and the rest are severely warped! I got a Karen and a teferi and cannot even use them with sleeves.

  • @kevalashara3681
    @kevalashara3681 6 лет назад

    I feel like playing a card like Lost Legacy or some other kind of mass exile of a specific card is viable, but it doesn't feel like something to do in more of a casual format.

  • @MinikAwesome
    @MinikAwesome 6 лет назад

    Have you thought about running Aetherworks Reservoir? Like you could gain so much life, when you are repeatedly casting Apostles

  • @SnapquesterMage
    @SnapquesterMage 6 лет назад

    Wait, are you guys doing another Commander Meet Up at GP Vegas like last year? I'm trying to plan my trip and this was so much fun last year!