Nice review and footage. Coming from the Klimber2 to now the 3, the biggest difference I noticed overall was the brake travel feels much longer on the 3. Nothing bad, just feels more like flying an Enzo3 type brake travel., loooong.
Hi Carlo, again a very nice review. I saw in some video segments you had the Niviuk Arrow as a harness. Hope you will do a review on this one as well. If so, it would be awesome if you could give your thoughts on if it could be a good first pod harness. 👍🙌
Hi @manuelfischer9603 glad you enjoyed this review. We've been testing the Niviuk Hawk and Arrow quite a bit and plan to publish a review of these as soon as we can, but can't say when that will be (or even promise it will happen for sure) as we already have quite a backlog of gear reviews and other videos to produce... we're working on it! ⚒🎥🎞🎬🎦
Thank you for your excellent review! When you compare this glider to the Peak6, which one would you prefer? Which one can be turned flatter in thermals? cheers
Glad you like this review also! I would find it hard to choose between the Peak 6 and Klimber 3 P! Of course one more prioritises performance and stability, whilst the other more prioritises low weight. To be honest, all being equal, I'm not sure which can be turned flatter in thermals. For me they both have a pretty ideal balance in terms of how they turn, and both climb exceptionally well, I found. I don't think this is the important deciding factor between these two wings, which are in different classes, really. The more important differences between them are the most obvious ones, I think. Watch both of our reviews of these two wings to tell what I think are the important differences!
Thanks for the request. If we have the spare time and opportunity we'll test it - out of interest, as we'd like to test most wings and other flying gear. However the reality is we probably won't, and even if we do we probably won't have spare resources to publish a free video review of it. We already have a big backlog of gear to test and, to give an idea, we only manage to publish free video reviews of about 10% of what we test.
Our primary purpose for testing gear is not to make free video reviews, it's to get to know the gear so we can best advise our customers on what suits them best from what we offer, if they'd like our expert buying advice. We publish free videos and update the Flybubble Knowledge Base when we can to share what we can with the freeflight community.
I found I ultimately need to fly it at top of weight range or even 1kg --2kg over for paraglider Klimber 3P to fly at all. Lower than that, glider flies really really bad and slow. Almost unflyable. I would not dare to fly it on lower weight range.
Thanks for sharing your point of view. Interesting. 🤔 From testing the Klimber 3 P for several hours over several days with four different harnesses, at all-up weights from 83-95 kg, that wasn't my finding at all. Any other Klimber 3 P pilots care to share their point of view? 🤓
@flybubblecarlo In what conditions did you test? From video I can see laminar wind, ridge soaring. Not really terrain for this glider. Did you try in alps/mountains, turbulent air, or even moderate winds / thermals? At 87kg, what the documentation says is the perfect weight for my 21 size K3P. It is scarry! It is also intersting to note, that Zeolite GT's, same sizes (in m2) - have totally differrent weight ranges.
@@SlimTom Interesting, thanks again for sharing your point of view. 🤓 In answer to your question, I tested the Klimber 3 P size 21 for several hours at least over several days in a wide range of flying conditions, from light and smooth (where I found the K3P stays up exceptionally well) to strong and turbulent (when most other pilots didn't fly). Even from just looking at this 10 minute video I am not sure how you can think I was only ridge soaring however anyway I don't always film when I am testing (because filming gets in the way of testing, and there's only so much footage you need for a review) and of course, flying for several hours, I did a lot more testing and flying than you see here. On one flight in particular, I flew the K3P in quite strong and punchy thermals averaging 3-5 m/s, peaking at around 6/7 m/s with clouds overdeveloping and strong cloud suck. Even when the conditions were feisty, I never found the Klimber 3 P scary. For the level of wing, I found it to be relatively easy to launch and fly, as explained in this video. Of course in stronger conditions it makes sense to fly more loaded - as with any paraglider, especially more advanced paragliders.
@@SlimTom Interesting that you think this wing is only for certain terrain. That's not my finding at all! Like other similar wings e.g. the Advance Omega ULS, Skywalk X-Alps 5 etc I find it's a highly versatile wing, well suited to all types terrain - from mountains to flatlands. Of course in mountains you might have to walk up (if there isn't a cable car), but even in flatlands you can end up landing out and carrying your gear for a while! Plus it's just nice having such light and compact gear - great for taking on the train or plane - and with such nice handling and excellent performance! Of course there are compromises with light gear, and this isn't the right wing for everyone (no wing is).
@@flybubblecarlo Well, I hope somebody will benefit from our observations and discussion. I fly for more that 18 years, I fly PWC and 2 liners from when they were introduced... Just to add to my observations. I do have some experience...
What is your opinion on this Niviuk's glider? Share your thoughts & experiences with us. 💭👇🔥
Nice review and footage. Coming from the Klimber2 to now the 3, the biggest difference I noticed overall was the brake travel feels much longer on the 3. Nothing bad, just feels more like flying an Enzo3 type brake travel., loooong.
Thanks, I didn't get a chance to test the Klimber 2 so good to know. 👍
Hi Carlo, again a very nice review. I saw in some video segments you had the Niviuk Arrow as a harness. Hope you will do a review on this one as well. If so, it would be awesome if you could give your thoughts on if it could be a good first pod harness. 👍🙌
Buy it you won't regret it.
Hi @manuelfischer9603 glad you enjoyed this review. We've been testing the Niviuk Hawk and Arrow quite a bit and plan to publish a review of these as soon as we can, but can't say when that will be (or even promise it will happen for sure) as we already have quite a backlog of gear reviews and other videos to produce... we're working on it! ⚒🎥🎞🎬🎦
Please make a review on the Zeolite 2 GT
ooh cool video, wasthced all the way*
Thank you! 🙏 It's great to hear that. More new videos are on the way! Stay tuned! 👆🔥
Thank you for your excellent review! When you compare this glider to the Peak6, which one would you prefer? Which one can be turned flatter in thermals?
cheers
Glad you like this review also! I would find it hard to choose between the Peak 6 and Klimber 3 P! Of course one more prioritises performance and stability, whilst the other more prioritises low weight. To be honest, all being equal, I'm not sure which can be turned flatter in thermals. For me they both have a pretty ideal balance in terms of how they turn, and both climb exceptionally well, I found. I don't think this is the important deciding factor between these two wings, which are in different classes, really. The more important differences between them are the most obvious ones, I think. Watch both of our reviews of these two wings to tell what I think are the important differences!
For those who haven't already seen it, watch our Niviuk Peak 6 review: ruclips.net/video/KxZyFdn3gC8/видео.html
For those who haven't already seen it, watch our Niviuk Peak 6 review: ruclips.net/video/KxZyFdn3gC8/видео.html
Not really possible to do standard big ears?
Can you please test sky exos 2
Thanks for the request. If we have the spare time and opportunity we'll test it - out of interest, as we'd like to test most wings and other flying gear. However the reality is we probably won't, and even if we do we probably won't have spare resources to publish a free video review of it. We already have a big backlog of gear to test and, to give an idea, we only manage to publish free video reviews of about 10% of what we test.
Our primary purpose for testing gear is not to make free video reviews, it's to get to know the gear so we can best advise our customers on what suits them best from what we offer, if they'd like our expert buying advice. We publish free videos and update the Flybubble Knowledge Base when we can to share what we can with the freeflight community.
I found I ultimately need to fly it at top of weight range or even 1kg --2kg over for paraglider Klimber 3P to fly at all. Lower than that, glider flies really really bad and slow. Almost unflyable. I would not dare to fly it on lower weight range.
Thanks for sharing your point of view. Interesting. 🤔 From testing the Klimber 3 P for several hours over several days with four different harnesses, at all-up weights from 83-95 kg, that wasn't my finding at all. Any other Klimber 3 P pilots care to share their point of view? 🤓
@flybubblecarlo In what conditions did you test? From video I can see laminar wind, ridge soaring. Not really terrain for this glider. Did you try in alps/mountains, turbulent air, or even moderate winds / thermals? At 87kg, what the documentation says is the perfect weight for my 21 size K3P. It is scarry! It is also intersting to note, that Zeolite GT's, same sizes (in m2) - have totally differrent weight ranges.
@@SlimTom Interesting, thanks again for sharing your point of view. 🤓 In answer to your question, I tested the Klimber 3 P size 21 for several hours at least over several days in a wide range of flying conditions, from light and smooth (where I found the K3P stays up exceptionally well) to strong and turbulent (when most other pilots didn't fly). Even from just looking at this 10 minute video I am not sure how you can think I was only ridge soaring however anyway I don't always film when I am testing (because filming gets in the way of testing, and there's only so much footage you need for a review) and of course, flying for several hours, I did a lot more testing and flying than you see here. On one flight in particular, I flew the K3P in quite strong and punchy thermals averaging 3-5 m/s, peaking at around 6/7 m/s with clouds overdeveloping and strong cloud suck. Even when the conditions were feisty, I never found the Klimber 3 P scary. For the level of wing, I found it to be relatively easy to launch and fly, as explained in this video. Of course in stronger conditions it makes sense to fly more loaded - as with any paraglider, especially more advanced paragliders.
@@SlimTom Interesting that you think this wing is only for certain terrain. That's not my finding at all! Like other similar wings e.g. the Advance Omega ULS, Skywalk X-Alps 5 etc I find it's a highly versatile wing, well suited to all types terrain - from mountains to flatlands. Of course in mountains you might have to walk up (if there isn't a cable car), but even in flatlands you can end up landing out and carrying your gear for a while! Plus it's just nice having such light and compact gear - great for taking on the train or plane - and with such nice handling and excellent performance! Of course there are compromises with light gear, and this isn't the right wing for everyone (no wing is).
@@flybubblecarlo Well, I hope somebody will benefit from our observations and discussion. I fly for more that 18 years, I fly PWC and 2 liners from when they were introduced... Just to add to my observations. I do have some experience...