@@geofftech2 hey Geoff, are you going to do that new year's 2025 video that I mentioned in the previous video which is the all aboard to Northampton video, remember I sent that in the comments earlier
for station that had little in it. No car park, no allotments, not even sure there was litter bin, you still managed to make the video interesting and fun. Top work as always
I used to use the Sudbury & Harrow road station to go to school back in 1968/1969 and travel into Marylebone. Back in those days it was very old station was in a very bad state .I see in your video that the original ground level station building has been demolished. The platform level waiting room still had gas lighting! The frequency of the trains was very poor even back then. Often the early morning train was packed and we were forced to travel in the goods compartment. Happy Days.
Really!? My mum is from Sudbury Hill, so I knew the area back in the 1970s. It was not 'in a bad state,' merely two platforms. What more do you expect?
0:24 It's the least used of all Sudbury's stations, which are in turn less used than that of Sudbury in Suffolk, but it's the one that got the best code SUD.
The Station House pub in Durham has a real-time departures screen. It even tells you how many minutes you've got left to finish your drink if you want to be on the platform in time to catch each train.
A lot of the stations on that line have the area in the middle to allow faster trains through, imagine if they had not removed them, how much better the timetable could be
Geoff, have you considered doing a similar challenge to your Acton challenge, but for Harrow stations? How quick can you visit, these two stations in Sudbury plus, North Harrow , West Harrow, Harrow and Wealdstone, South Harrow and Harrow on the Hill
It was a nice surprise to bump into you that morning - made a very mundane commute a bit more interesting. In S&HR's defence, I can get to work in KX 20minutes quicker than if I get the piccadilly line which can take over 50 minutes station to station, and sometimes involved me standing for most of the journey. Unfortunately those Chiltern stations are not well advertised or presented, and a reminder why staffed stations are so important. There were rumouring's of a Chiltern metro 20+ years ago but that never materialised. But as you noted the line has ample room for four tracks in many places, plus I think a bit actually connects up with the proposed West London Orbital near Neasden. The 10:19 also stops at Wembley Stadium which gets a lot more passengers. If that line were to be modernised, diesel trained removed from service, homes built nearby where there is space, it would make a very nice addition to the London overground and take some of the traffic off the A40 from High Wycombe. We can only hope. Anyway, fun fact - there was a bit of architectural ruins from the old station to the side of the public toilet (12:51) but it was hidden by the van. Next time you are there it's worth looking at.
That video brings back memories. I used to work at MW Kellogg (later KBR) who's office block (on the other side of Sudbury Hill Tube) used to be there. Often used to get the train from Sudbury Hill Harrow as the trains were a lot quicker and more comfortable than the Piccadilly line. And less crowded too.
This is giving me Flashbacks - I used to commute to Sudbury Hill & Harrow back in late 2000s from Marylebone for work.... I used to prefer it as it was only a 15min commute from Marylebone in straight from the Bakerloo Line & I used to live pretty central.
If you time the trains right you should have no problem using it. An hourly service is miles better than what a lot of station's get across the country.
A station that most trains do not stop at, has a very limited service, and is a short walk to a more serviced station, and an underground station ... it figures ...
As someone who uses the Chiltern Main Line as my primary route into London, I have to say its the only station on the line between Marylebone and Warwick Parkway I've not visited. I've visited Sudbury Hill Harrow a few times as I used to travel into London on one of the trains which stopped there and used to transfure to the Picadilly Line but that LNER sign wasn't there then.
There used to be 4 tracks through Sudbury Hill, I remember going to watch the preserved steam expresses through there as a kid, Mallard etc, as these are my local stations. Struggle to believe they can't put it back and have a better commuter service there, but then I can't see why that train doesn't stop at Wembley as the biggest population centre! Mad timetabling logic. Cheers #Disco
It's probably down to cost (like with everything nowadays). With HS2, East West rail and various station and line openings happening at the moment the rail authorities likely don't think its worth the trouble right now.
I’ve lived in North West London all my life - I even used Sudbury Hill Harrow once - and I’m not sure I even knew this station existed until a few weeks ago.
Went to a very good talk at the LTM the other night given by a TFL heritage manager, and he mentioned his team were behind that LNER sign as part of refurbishment works. 4:24
I live near Sudbury, Suffolk - our station is very different from this one. It'd be interesting to see you visit Sudbury (Suffolk) and give your opinion of the station here.
I have had occasion to use this station occasionally and think it is such a shame it is so underused and underserved. I do understand the reason why - just no capacity for it - but 12 minutes directly into Marylebone seems better than clanking all the way round the wrong end of London on the Picc. I would also disagree that the Picc service to Rayners Lane is any great shakes. It can be very infrequent and unreliable at times - and the ancient trains are cramped and hot/cold when compared with the nice seating and air-con of the Chiltern Line. Opportunity missed somewhere but too late to solve it now, sadly.
Kind Sir, you'll not remember me when I saw you and Vicky and the NRM in York, a few years ago when you were signing your All the Stations books. I said that my closest station then was Weston super Mare. (Consequently I've now moved) my closest station is the end of the West Somerset Railway in the Minehead area. My closest mainline station now being Taunton. Thank you so much for including Weston on the Departure boards advert I felt so humbled knowing that I've met you, shook your hand good sir and that was my closest station being down here in the South West. Being that the majority of your videos being around the London area, this is a great shout to the stations here in the South West. THANK YOU!!!!!
Good video Geoff, I've been there it does have that lonely deserlate feeling like a least used station should, very unique however i do think that somebody should come to Sudbury & Harrow Road, clean it up and give it a bit of love even though no one knows it exists it's still a quirky and brilliant station and i love it. Anyway thanks for another fun video, its always the best thing to see on a RUclips notification that you've uploaded a new video 😊 👍
I live near Drayton Green station, didn't realise its famous for being least used in London, not surprising though, it just goes a few stops from West Ealing to Greenford, perhaps the line will be used more now given the arrival of the Elizabeth line connection at West Ealing.
Geoff, since this is a M-F only service, the passengers per day figure is 72. That means an average of 9 per train - and you saw 10 of them get on one train. WOW!
This is my nearest station. Such a shame it is so underused as the 18, 92, 182 and 245 buses all stop right outside (unlike Sudbury Town which now only has the 204) I've seen a brilliant photo of the station from the 1960s showing all 4 lines and the outside wooden platforms. The station master at the time was an Indian gentleman who was described as India's version of Cliff Richard
I lived in Sudbury until I was 14 in 1973, even then this station had the appearance of being derelict. As we were basically equidistant from Sudbury Town and North Wembley, those were our stations of choice, although it was more often bus 18 92 182 or 245
1:55 not really true - the Chiltern service has so few shopping trains which destroys the use case for passengers. Sudbury Hill looses passengers to Greenford on the central. Sudbury Town gets less passengers thanks to Wembley Central on the Overground/Bakerloo (or the 18 bus).
Working on the Chiltern Line, looking after the platform services, I’m surprised it’s not Denham Golf Club station. I guess it’s because Harrow has no car park. Q: Per track mile, does Chiltern have the most unmanned stations?
@dancrooksycamore think Scotland is separate, considering one near me was closed for 10 months, the entire line was closed, there are only 5 trains a day, I don't think people use the train here either
Were there any announcements at Sudbury and Harrow Road, when non stop trains were approaching, saying "Please stand clear of the platform edge, fast train approaching", or words to that effect? Also, the station, being on there, an urban station, with a sort of rural feel, reminds me of Manors National Rail station in Newcastle, not the Metro station.
With so few services, it would be very difficult for it *not* to be in the league table of least used stations! Even if lots of people got on/off every train.
This video fails to explain the reason for Sudbury Hill & Harrow being the least used railway station. Which is that almost no trains (on the Chiltern Railway) stop there. Only about 5 a day in each direction. Yet, the train only takes about 18 minutes from here to Marylebone station, right in central London. If you take the Piccadilly Line from Sudbury Hill, about 300 yards away, it takes ages ... nearly one hour to Leicester Square. I know which I prefer ...
Whatever happened to the old Sudbury Hill Harrow video? I'm sure there was one where Geoff spoke to a community group that succeeded in getting it an hourly service!
Geoff, general question: I thought I heard the the government is going to re-nationalize the rail lines as the contracts with the various companies expire, true or not?
Reedham and Coulsdon Town always seem quiet. Prior to the covid pandemic 4 trains an hour ran from Coulsdon Town and stopped at Reedham. Surprised that Woodmansterne didn’t make an appearance, cause that seems quieter to me.
Nice video! It's also ironic how the 18 bus route, London's busiest bus route, terminates at London's least used station. Pretty cool!
It’s my favourite fact of the whole video! 😊
@@geofftech2that’s nice!
Would the statistic of passengers per train per day be useful?
@@geofftech2 hey Geoff, are you going to do that new year's 2025 video that I mentioned in the previous video which is the all aboard to Northampton video, remember I sent that in the comments earlier
But the Piccadilly Line station is 'a couple of minutes walk away'.
for station that had little in it. No car park, no allotments, not even sure there was litter bin, you still managed to make the video interesting and fun. Top work as always
I love this series because it feels like a fun outing for all of us.
I used to use the Sudbury & Harrow road station to go to school back in 1968/1969 and travel into Marylebone. Back in those days it was very old station was in a very bad state .I see in your video that the original ground level station building has been demolished. The platform level waiting room still had gas lighting! The frequency of the trains was very poor even back then. Often the early morning train was packed and we were forced to travel in the goods compartment. Happy Days.
Really!? My mum is from Sudbury Hill, so I knew the area back in the 1970s. It was not 'in a bad state,' merely two platforms. What more do you expect?
0:24 It's the least used of all Sudbury's stations, which are in turn less used than that of Sudbury in Suffolk, but it's the one that got the best code SUD.
The Station House pub in Durham has a real-time departures screen. It even tells you how many minutes you've got left to finish your drink if you want to be on the platform in time to catch each train.
There is one in Salisbury opposite the station that does that. I used it earlier this summer when I had a wait between trains.
i really wanted one of those departure boards, untill i saw they were £170 😭
yeah same, it's the tiny one too that's £170!!
@@hrg1 Oh my gosh i didnt even notice the big one was £290!!
Savings people for something you know you will love and need in your life. 😊😊👌👌
4:10 I assume the LNER sign is referring to the historical L&NER of 1923-48? They did pass through Sudbury according to route maps
It was on the pre grouping Great Central which became part of the LNER.
Their social club is still down the road too
A lot of the stations on that line have the area in the middle to allow faster trains through, imagine if they had not removed them, how much better the timetable could be
Geoff, have you considered doing a similar challenge to your Acton challenge, but for Harrow stations? How quick can you visit, these two stations in Sudbury plus, North Harrow , West Harrow, Harrow and Wealdstone, South Harrow and Harrow on the Hill
It was a nice surprise to bump into you that morning - made a very mundane commute a bit more interesting. In S&HR's defence, I can get to work in KX 20minutes quicker than if I get the piccadilly line which can take over 50 minutes station to station, and sometimes involved me standing for most of the journey. Unfortunately those Chiltern stations are not well advertised or presented, and a reminder why staffed stations are so important. There were rumouring's of a Chiltern metro 20+ years ago but that never materialised. But as you noted the line has ample room for four tracks in many places, plus I think a bit actually connects up with the proposed West London Orbital near Neasden. The 10:19 also stops at Wembley Stadium which gets a lot more passengers. If that line were to be modernised, diesel trained removed from service, homes built nearby where there is space, it would make a very nice addition to the London overground and take some of the traffic off the A40 from High Wycombe. We can only hope. Anyway, fun fact - there was a bit of architectural ruins from the old station to the side of the public toilet (12:51) but it was hidden by the van. Next time you are there it's worth looking at.
That video brings back memories. I used to work at MW Kellogg (later KBR) who's office block (on the other side of Sudbury Hill Tube) used to be there. Often used to get the train from Sudbury Hill Harrow as the trains were a lot quicker and more comfortable than the Piccadilly line. And less crowded too.
This is giving me Flashbacks - I used to commute to Sudbury Hill & Harrow back in late 2000s from Marylebone for work.... I used to prefer it as it was only a 15min commute from Marylebone in straight from the Bakerloo Line & I used to live pretty central.
I'm a local to Sudbury Hill, I'd much prefer chiltern but they don't come frequently enough and not at all on weekends :(
Exactly! 12 mins into Marylebone is a no brainer...but the problem is it's a no train-er! 😟
If you time the trains right you should have no problem using it. An hourly service is miles better than what a lot of station's get across the country.
@@nathanw9770 It doesn't get an hourly service - no trains at all in the middle of the day. Just a few in the morning and a few in the evening.
Living near High Wycombe, Sudbury and Harrow Road is normally just a blur on the way into Marylebone. Thanks Geoff for giving it the treatment.
Lived 5 minutes away from that station for 35 years. Never used it once. Seen several RUclips videos of it though 😂
Blimey Geoff. That was a trip down memory lane for me. Thanks 😊😊😊
Northolt Park station was at the bottom of our road and we used to stand on the footbbridge watching the trains go past underneath...1960s.😀
If there's no weekend service, shouldn't we divide by 261 instead of 365? That would give 71 passengers a day.
Congratulations Sudbury & Harrow road station you made it to the top spot keep it up! You're kind of famous now!
A station that most trains do not stop at, has a very limited service, and is a short walk to a more serviced station, and an underground station ... it figures ...
A new least used video. What a treat on a day where I'm home sick
As someone who uses the Chiltern Main Line as my primary route into London, I have to say its the only station on the line between Marylebone and Warwick Parkway I've not visited. I've visited Sudbury Hill Harrow a few times as I used to travel into London on one of the trains which stopped there and used to transfure to the Picadilly Line but that LNER sign wasn't there then.
This can be some of the least used transfer in London!😂
There used to be 4 tracks through Sudbury Hill, I remember going to watch the preserved steam expresses through there as a kid, Mallard etc, as these are my local stations. Struggle to believe they can't put it back and have a better commuter service there, but then I can't see why that train doesn't stop at Wembley as the biggest population centre! Mad timetabling logic. Cheers #Disco
It's probably down to cost (like with everything nowadays). With HS2, East West rail and various station and line openings happening at the moment the rail authorities likely don't think its worth the trouble right now.
Hi Geoff, brilliant video! thanks
I’ve lived in North West London all my life - I even used Sudbury Hill Harrow once - and I’m not sure I even knew this station existed until a few weeks ago.
The 183 and H17 go right past it (the 18 even terminates right outside).
There are photos on the internet of the station when it has the old platform layout and four tracks.
Went to a very good talk at the LTM the other night given by a TFL heritage manager, and he mentioned his team were behind that LNER sign as part of refurbishment works. 4:24
I live near Sudbury, Suffolk - our station is very different from this one. It'd be interesting to see you visit Sudbury (Suffolk) and give your opinion of the station here.
I recommend Banstead Stn, a slab of concrete with a shelter but still has a map of the station at the entrance
I have had occasion to use this station occasionally and think it is such a shame it is so underused and underserved. I do understand the reason why - just no capacity for it - but 12 minutes directly into Marylebone seems better than clanking all the way round the wrong end of London on the Picc. I would also disagree that the Picc service to Rayners Lane is any great shakes. It can be very infrequent and unreliable at times - and the ancient trains are cramped and hot/cold when compared with the nice seating and air-con of the Chiltern Line. Opportunity missed somewhere but too late to solve it now, sadly.
Kind Sir, you'll not remember me when I saw you and Vicky and the NRM in York, a few years ago when you were signing your All the Stations books. I said that my closest station then was Weston super Mare. (Consequently I've now moved) my closest station is the end of the West Somerset Railway in the Minehead area. My closest mainline station now being Taunton. Thank you so much for including Weston on the Departure boards advert I felt so humbled knowing that I've met you, shook your hand good sir and that was my closest station being down here in the South West. Being that the majority of your videos being around the London area, this is a great shout to the stations here in the South West. THANK YOU!!!!!
basically if your station has the name Elton in it, its going to be on the list
God, imagine living there... bollocks,just remembered. I do.
Good video Geoff, I've been there it does have that lonely deserlate feeling like a least used station should, very unique however i do think that somebody should come to Sudbury & Harrow Road, clean it up and give it a bit of love even though no one knows it exists it's still a quirky and brilliant station and i love it. Anyway thanks for another fun video, its always the best thing to see on a RUclips notification that you've uploaded a new video 😊 👍
I live near Drayton Green station, didn't realise its famous for being least used in London, not surprising though, it just goes a few stops from West Ealing to Greenford, perhaps the line will be used more now given the arrival of the Elizabeth line connection at West Ealing.
Geoff, since this is a M-F only service, the passengers per day figure is 72. That means an average of 9 per train - and you saw 10 of them get on one train. WOW!
Your videos cheer me up. Grateful. Thank you.
7:11 what a great visual!
Thanks Geoff - great video as always, love these niche series
This is my nearest station. Such a shame it is so underused as the 18, 92, 182 and 245 buses all stop right outside (unlike Sudbury Town which now only has the 204) I've seen a brilliant photo of the station from the 1960s showing all 4 lines and the outside wooden platforms. The station master at the time was an Indian gentleman who was described as India's version of Cliff Richard
Underused because it is so underserved I feel! Could've been a gem if served properly. 😕
I lived in Sudbury until I was 14 in 1973, even then this station had the appearance of being derelict. As we were basically equidistant from Sudbury Town and North Wembley, those were our stations of choice, although it was more often bus 18 92 182 or 245
Did you go to East Lane school? If so, you were probably there with my sister also born 1959.
The pizza boxes and beer cans do make me think though... this probably *is* a pretty nice place to hang out and chill after the last train.
@@mst4309 it kinda scares me cause der prob gonna be drunk men
@William_gamer365 At least they took the train instead of driving
@ true😂😂😂
wow, geoff has a decent sponsor, nice change. i didnt just skip past it
Sings.... "So Geoff was travelling on the one after 9:09" (Beatles referrence)
Meanwhile in Tokyo, Shinjuku station gets 1.27 billion passengers per year
1:55 not really true - the Chiltern service has so few shopping trains which destroys the use case for passengers.
Sudbury Hill looses passengers to Greenford on the central. Sudbury Town gets less passengers thanks to Wembley Central on the Overground/Bakerloo (or the 18 bus).
Ahh just when I was thinking should I go to Sudbury and Harrow. I mess the G man 😪😪😪😪
Northolt Park ❤
Beautiful station and just a short walk to my parents.
Working on the Chiltern Line, looking after the platform services, I’m surprised it’s not Denham Golf Club station. I guess it’s because Harrow has no car park. Q: Per track mile, does Chiltern have the most unmanned stations?
Denham Golf Club wouldn't be London's least used station because it's not in London.
A new Least Used Station video - an early Christmas present!
Fantastic video Geoff! I need to pay a visit sometime 😀
You should do a video of the least used station per train. I'd bet a fiver that it would be Morden South!
Surprised the ones right next to Picadilly stations survived Beeching (or even closures later on)
It's frustrating that a station near so many houses, flats and shops is so poorly serviced. More trains will attract more users....
Worked at Smitham many times , had also we had to reset local signals.
You should do the least used station of Scotland, think one near me easily beats Britain's least station
Least used of Scotland would be Britain's least used tho? (Unless E W or NI had one less used)
@dancrooksycamore think Scotland is separate, considering one near me was closed for 10 months, the entire line was closed, there are only 5 trains a day, I don't think people use the train here either
Hard to believe that the lines from Marylebone remain unelectrified.
I've passed by this station a few times on the way to Wembley, never actually been to it though
Great video Geoff
I'm not the only one missing the music am I?
No you are not
I always enjoy the step action scenes 11:50
I wonder what happened to Colin on the piano at the Rising Sun at Sudbury, those were the days
Were there any announcements at Sudbury and Harrow Road, when non stop trains were approaching, saying "Please stand clear of the platform edge, fast train approaching", or words to that effect? Also, the station, being on there, an urban station, with a sort of rural feel, reminds me of Manors National Rail station in Newcastle, not the Metro station.
Anyone know if any other county has a new least used station? Hoping we'll get some more videos of the weird and isolated railway stations in Britain!
Sunnymeads is now least used Berkshire. Fenny Stratford in Buckinghamshire, Hopton Heath in Shropshire. Probably a few others too
With so few services, it would be very difficult for it *not* to be in the league table of least used stations! Even if lots of people got on/off every train.
Did the passenger numbers go up at all when they built that massive apartment block in 2013/2014 next to Sudbury and Harrow station?
Great video Geoff Marshall
The Oyster card reader behnd you in the intro appeared to beep when people tapped in/out. So perhaps the power was only out in some places?
Yeah I noticed that, presumably they have a separate power source?
Hahhaha I lilterly have my departure board in front of me while you where advertising it
This video fails to explain the reason for Sudbury Hill & Harrow being the least used railway station. Which is that almost no trains (on the Chiltern Railway) stop there. Only about 5 a day in each direction. Yet, the train only takes about 18 minutes from here to Marylebone station, right in central London. If you take the Piccadilly Line from Sudbury Hill, about 300 yards away, it takes ages ... nearly one hour to Leicester Square. I know which I prefer ...
I knew this about a week or two ago and I’ve been waiting for you to make this
Why don't DLR extend to Waterloo ❓
Thanks Geoff :)
Whatever happened to the old Sudbury Hill Harrow video? I'm sure there was one where Geoff spoke to a community group that succeeded in getting it an hourly service!
wasn't there one called 'come district line with me'? i cant find it anywhere. perhaos some videos were taken down, i dont know
Can you do a Video about Stockwell station Geoff? It's my favorite!
As there isn't enough paths why not restore the old layout so that then fasts can pass stoppers at Sudbury & Harrow Road?
Love these videos Geoff! Keep em comin' 😁
Aw Wow Beautiful Vid About Sudbury & Harrow Road London's New Least Used Station Mr. Marshall
12:30 did it smell of multi-story carpark?
Where’s the Habit is Happiness theme?
Sudbury & Harrow Road… still available to get on the Northhampton Ticket Wall! Now how to do that?
One of the four early morning trains into Marylebone!
@@geofftech2but how would you buy a paper ticket?
Geoff, general question: I thought I heard the the government is going to re-nationalize the rail lines as the contracts with the various companies expire, true or not?
Are you going to do a series on the other of the top 10 least used in London?
Why National Library of Scotland, Geoff? The Sudbury stations are really confusing.
The Library has a huge collection of maps which are available for perusal on the web. Esp OS.
Hey Geoff Are You Going To Do A Video On The Newcastle - Ashington Line When It Reopens On Sunday
I work at Sudbury Hill station
Wondering if anyone has done Denton to Northampton for the ticket board?
Parliamentary service?
Eight trains a day is much more frequent than the bare minimum.
What do you use for your maps/diagrams
He uses AfterEffects, he said that in another video.
Did British Redcar Steel close or something? How is it not on the list of 10 the least in all of Britain?
Please do Denton Geoff!
2124: and today we will be visitng sudbury and harrow Road, which is now london’s least used station for the 367th year ever!
Love it Geoff 🔥 watched for years
Reedham and Coulsdon Town always seem quiet. Prior to the covid pandemic 4 trains an hour ran from Coulsdon Town and stopped at Reedham. Surprised that Woodmansterne didn’t make an appearance, cause that seems quieter to me.
I hope you don't get too wet or dirty when your lying down on the ground - It looks a bit wet out there!!! 😉🤔🚂🚂🚂
Morden South at no. 5 , that’s disappointing. A local station to me .
the boards are cool but the price is outrageous 169 quid on sale for the smallest one??
ruclips.net/video/vZoOLDRsgq4/видео.html Found this a little while ago of Sudbury and Harrow Road from the 70s
What is London’s least used underground station? I would like to find out.
I wonder which is the least used station in Corrour?