Starcraft 2: LURKERS OVERPOWERED? EPIC SERIES! (Reynor vs Heromarine)
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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that lurker nydus play was crazy. i don't think anyone else could pull that off....that was stunning.
As we all know, Carbot already showed us what really goes on in Terran techlabs.
The last time I was this early, Winter still looked like Neeb.
He looks like a younger Kevin SPacey
"Where are Reynor's Broodlords and Corruptors?!!!" asks Winter.
*He has none.*
Mass Lurkers shows up and murders Heromarine.
Terran vs Zerg?
_Just like the Simulations_
I dont get it. I know the meme but dont get it in this situation
@@lewisw3436 campaign
@@PaleGhost69 gotcha
I would love to see another eyes of the progamer for reynor to see how he handles control groups.
I believe there's a Reddit post on his control groups.
Yeah that would be awesome
35:42 OMEGALUL please included that in the next compilation
30:35 - "When Lurkers band together in order to take on more dangerous prey, such as the siege tank, we call these large groupings Threshers." - STARCRAFT with David Attenborough
31:40
This is the real reason you watch big gabe
what does he mean by planetary micro here? I'm not sure what's going on
"WHAT?! That's not supposed to work!" - Winter, 2020
you are half my age, but if I`m half your talent - that`s a compliment for me, my favorite caster Winter sir!
That Game 2 was one of the best TvZ's I've seen, despite my detestation of Zerg.
HeroMarine vs Reynor? This is gonna be a sick ass match
Zerg Cerebrate Wolf as long as the balance whiners don't invade the comments
More like getting bullied by raynor LOL
Italians OP.
Hero Marine is Stubborn, really wasn't willing to change up his composition despite it not working.
"Half you're age, and double you're talent...I'm sorry that's unfair...Triple you're talent." WinterSC - 2020
22:32 holy crap that surround through the vision blockers xD
22:21 I've never seen winter this giddy
Amazing games, amazing casting. Loved every minute of it. Keep up the great work Winter! Triple Nydus!!!!!!
That game 2 was just madness.
29:29 raynor goes 900 apm like a boss
That second game was on fire the from start to finish.
I knew they would learn eventually! (this is Duriel from Bronze League Heroes "a hill to die on".
Lurker & Viper vs mech, obviously.
Winter at the peak of his casting abilities :D :D :D did not laughed that much for some time
31:20 have you ever seen a raven mister heromarine?
Can I propose the Reynor APM challenge? Winter has to donate a sub if APM is under 600 average.
after 22.30. When Reynor cleared the attacks, the change of music was perfect.
I always assumed it was Cracklings because they attack so fast they crack through armour...
My life is a lie.
The triple nydus the mad man!
I've only watched the first match so far and I can't fucking believe it's even possible to think this fast. What in the actual **** is this?!
"Crossed the Rubicon," huh? I've noticed your little quips over time, do you have an interest in history Mr. Winter?
The analogy was off imo. But nice to see that such phrases are still in use.
My Terran Heart ❤️ is bleeding 🩸 Exciting match nonetheless though.
Have a like you salty nerd. Thanks for all the content.
Yes, Lurkers are overpowered and i love it. especially when the Terran runs their army of mass marines up my ramp during 2v2 matches and proceeds to lose everything.
Lol only in 2v2
Lurkers are so satisfying to use Xd
yes in 2v2 stimless marine rush is the meta. More marines are made in 2v2 than anything else (except maybe 4v4).
I dont play starcraft and just watch it but i think a great change would be if you can not cancel or salvage a building while it is under attack, for example received damge in last 5 seconds. Watched alot of games and seen terrans abuse this so often for zero risk and practically zero cost, not sure about others it just seems a little gimmiky and unfair to me to just watch them canncel a building just before its destroyed for almost a full refund. Or you could make it so that the amount of money refunded is related to the remaining hp of the building ie 10%hp 10%refund 80%hp 80%refund.
Triple nydus in a column like that is how I play Kerrigan in co-op.
Very satisfying yoinks from Reynor this game (:
31:40 That's not supposed to work!
hahahaha
Oh my god this EXECUTION
that was excellent, I do love lurker hydra viper nowadays
damn you really wouldn't think that ling/bane would counter fucking mech but i guess imma try it now
That was awesome!
“Brood War was rated T for Teen”
Lol, didn’t stop me! I was playing Starcraft before I could even read!
Thanks Winter great casting tbh.
Hey Winter, I'm sure a few people ask you this, but were did you get your Carbot chair cover? Was it a limited thing?
Lurkers neeeeeed a nurfynurf
I can sometimes reach 600 actions per game.
Until 2019, all my SC 2 Terran wins required fewer than 5 actions.
Game 2 ist epic. one of the best!
Question: Would a tech switch with some libs/bcs in the mix have have helped or would hero have succumbed to mid game pressure?
ghost was the right call. Libs can be dragged out of siege just like tanks.
Thors shouldn't be allowed to be pulled by vipers, they're too big
medivac should not be able to carry them too, too big.
or maybe pulled but just a little bit
Cries in -400/400
600 apm and zero fucks
planetary micro is OP
Zerg is op
I am a Twitch chat grand master and I approve of this build.
Blizzard have already nerfed brood lords and infestors. If they nerf lurkers it will be a trifecta of TvZ buffs.
Network connectivity problems.... lawl...
Damn, from my humble d3 experience, terran is the most stressful race. At least, for me.
And ,Winter, it's not very comforting of you to laught at such dreadful nydus moves Reynor made in game 2^^ Other than that, thanks for the games. They were super entertaining and fun to watch. Keep it up! I really miss professional replays and your gm gameplay recently.
I'd like to see EPM sometimes.
Damn I am old.
People don't realise that 'overpowered' doesn't equal 'unbeatable'. Ofcourse there are always overpowered units even if slightly, that's why there has always been balance patches. No game can make perfect unit balance especially with very different factions.
crack open a cold one wth the lings
Since Reynor defeated Serral in Blizzcon last year,he using the same tactics all over and over again,just sayin
I think few can pull it off
@@AlphaLegionXX but new meta is killing the zerg player
Conclusion: tanks don't counter viper/burrowboys
what ya gonna do
That moment when you go to click the "Like" button but realize it says "666"
Longest 18 seconds video ever!
1/3 my age and 10x my talent. Raynor isn't bad either.
First time checking this guy out. I think I'll return when his commentary improves.
rip banelings 2020 >8*( zerg always getting nerfed ohhh wow this video one day before the nerf oof....
Kind of annoying a player named Raynor uses Zerg
LURKERS OP? you have some nerve terran player: raven op, bc op, mines op, ghost op, mules op, repair op...but the whine of the terran folks does not know any bounds.
He's a zerg player.
Don't start this op shit from lurkers. Look at how much work it takes to do what reynor did with the vipers and nyduses . I know how much work it takes to defeat a turtle terran just hunkering down with tanks and pfs. It's such a shit experience from the terran
It should take that much work when the units cost less and are faster/easier to produce and upgrade.
@@FPSCongo1 Would like to see just one non-nerf change for Zerg. I'm thinking if tanks and Thors can be yoinked, why not Planetary Fortresses?
them Adderall-Kids... crazy. When do you think they will start to take doping tests during major SC2 tournaments? ;)
lurkers op? na just vipers.
To answer the title, yes.
An invisible unit shouldn't be that powerful when you can actually see them. I'll have six colossi with vision of the lurkers and the fight is no better than even. Anything less than that and I lose badly.
Their free units are too powerful as well. A decent number of real units should always wipe the floor against free units. Those should be for harassment or a small buff to a big fight.
Just out of curiosity, why is there an age restriction on tournaments? If you're good at the game, you're good.
Because winnings and tax laws
Mostly to protect kids. Child labor laws factor as well, plus there are unscrupulous people who will prey on them, scamming agents, thieving managers, fake teams who will steal your earnings. Always have a lawyer read your contract before you sign anything.
Thanks for the responses everyone. They seem so obvious now. Brain, be better next time!
Can someone explain to me why Winter keeps yelling about Jimmy in every cast?
ExMachina SC2 jimmy is still working on his technical skills and often makes mistakes. Hence the mild scolding. It’s pretty tongue-and-cheek don’t worry about ‘ol jimmy
Jim Raynor, AKA his tech guy who handles all the audio visual effects (and messes up all the time)
Game one is how it usually goes for me :D But i realized now that 5 marines and a tank / few mines might have saved him.
The units that start with M... Migga?
winter looks tired
ofc you can see his small eyes
yea
Ah yes 66 views with 6 likes.
You and Lowko both used the Epic Series clickbait today
Nydus should be removed from the game
Remove medivac drops, battlecruiser jumb and prism warp ins first. Another bullshit bronze noob whining in the comments.
@@MRMR-ii8du Another braindead person who takes everythign leterally, did your drugged out parents not love you enough? :D Nydus is soooo fucking easy to micro, REMOVE
Same with BC + void rays, REMOVE IT U DIPSHIT CHEEZER
@@zegikniet9999 learn some English first. I'm pretty sure noobs want nydus to be removed from the game. Also I don't need my parents love when ur mom's love is more than enough XD
@@MRMR-ii8du You learn some Dutch first, ohye and some french and some german... Howmany languages do u speak? Sad spelling nazi's are the worst, especially the ones who can't come up with some original 'jokes'. :'(
Who do pros play on potato graphics
Last time I was this early there was someone left in the world thinking that terran can win vs zerg. This was many years ago
In bronze? yes. Instead of whining after watching one video go watch the games where maru won the tournament.
5th
Its just impossible for zerg to lose?
ok ok so Starcraft 2 was rated "T For Teen" or whatever. Still I'm not joking when I say Innovation was playing starcraft when he was in diapers.
As a Terran main, I have such mixed feeling when regarding Lurkers. Especially since I play bio.
On one hand, they are rather high tech so it takes a while before Zerg can field them. On the other hand, once they're out, they're better than siege tank in all ways that matters, except maybe range. They burrow, so you need detection. Their burrowing speed is already superior to tanks at its base level, and worse yet, this can be upgraded for even faster burrowing. They move faster than tanks.
Oh, and best one. They deal AOE, but they don't hit friendlies.
This is why I always go for 2-base-all-in whenever I go against Zerg nowadays.
Tanks also deal significantly more damage, but they have a dead-zone.
@@nielsunnerup7099 Yes, they do. But Lurkers high attack speed and deceptively large AOE, even if it's straight lines, along with the fact that they have no damage reduction, make the difference moot. Making this worse, tanks deal less damage to light/unarmored units, unlike Lurker's flat damage across the board, making the DPS difference even closer to maybe 3-4 points, even with upgrades.
@@baktiy.s.1065 Lurkers have a plus 50 percent damage to armored, but the rest is true
@@nielsunnerup7099 BCs are hilariously bad as late game units, which is the time when lurkers got fielded. And that bit about 'hydras don't counter BCs' is not even remotely true, because by the time a Terran can reliably produce BCs at sufficient number, Zergs would have the economy and larvae to field 15-20 hydras at once, continuously, up to 40-60 hydras if they blew their bank.
When combined with Lurkers, even if you have 10 BCs on the field by 15 mins mark, you might as well say adios to any expansion you have, except maybe your natural.
Yea let's give lurkers and even banes friendly fire so they kill each other in 1 sec lol. Also gl hf trying to kill bcs with hydras. Unless the terran has less than 40 IQ and his macro is shit. 15 hydras can kill 1 bc, sure.
Ugh, it irks me that "pro" players still get tied down to basic strats for the entire game. This game we go bio, this game we go mech....you can mix it up.