The wing looks so loose that it looks like it'll fall off. You only really see carbon fibre wobble when you're watching a slow motion video of a car going around a corner. The wobbling is so quick due to to the force and speed, that you can't just see it. The wing shouldn't wobble and flex like when going at high speeds, it would ruin the aero if there's a constant imbalance of airflow. It's not a 'nice' touch at all.
Yes, Turn 10 cheats the AI into having more horsepower in "Unbeatable" mode. I noticed it back in Forza 5 on replay; I switched to the AI and pulled up the telemetry, and the HP they were pushing out was absurd. Some of them were even squeezing out numbers that would be impossible for you (the player) to tune up to in the very same car they had. I can confirm, "Unbeatable" AI are sadly a bit of a lazy feature from Turn 10.
The problem with the "GT" category in forza is that they are different specs of GT, each GT series around the world has their own specs or BoP ( Balance of Performance ) i.e. IMSA, WEC, Super GT, etc. When Turn 10 gets the license to scan and make a car in the game sometimes they get the car from different series around the world and therefor different performance because each series has its own BoP
Hate the new speedometer. I like how easy it was to see what percent of brake and throttle you were using before. They've made that so tiny you can barely see it
An update patch can probably fix this. You think management at Turn 10 would be a bit more clever to give us an option to adjust the size but clearly that's not a priority whatsoever.
I wish that, in third person, the speedometer on the HUD would somewhat resemble the speedometer inside the current car you are driving. That would be cool.
Eliminate the camera shake problem by simply using interior view. I always use interior view for FM games anyway as you can achieve much smoother and faster laps.
jokes on us folks that got Forza 7, cause that's exactly what it turned out to be. Super inconsistent AI that has absurd straight line speeds, way above the homologation threshold for that class.
user created lobbies can be good however, they can have significant drawbacks. Ideally they should have public servers and dedicated servers both available.
+Super GT The ford gt got a tinier air restrictor this season cause of its dominance last year. While it remains beeing one of the better cornering cars its got the tiniest restrictor on the lowest displacement engine while not beeing significantly lighter than its compeditors. Making it the lowest in a straight line.
TinTin Yu I know, it's much more fun/immersive in cockpit view. It's nice they've added a second view without the steering wheel too, makes it even better when using your own wheel so you don't have 2 wheels in front of you.
Forza still not getting motorsport right. All GT Cars mixed together and made somehow equal. And still lacking qualifying etc. But yeah finally Avatars in the Game......
Yes the AI on unbeatable seem to have increased engine power. But at least it is not rubber-banding. Anyone else remember the rubber-banding in FM3? I sure do.
Idk if its the game or the video, but the car looks like it feels lighter, almost more of an arcade style? Is this true?? How does the physics in this game differ from Forza 6 because if I remember correctly, I think they hired a new physics design guy and he completely revamped the physics for Forza 7. Can you elaborate on this?
I like this camera, it gives you a sense of momentum while going through the turns. I can't explain it really but i just like it. As for AI being "unbeatable"....well, maybe you should drive better. You can't drive it like it's NFS and expect to beat competitive AI.
The nextinline This guy made it to the FRC semifinals meaning he's one of the 24 best Forza drivers in the entire world. Since he can't beat unbeatable AI, that's saying something.
JumboJ99 yes but hes a gamer not a racer, so he will do anything to win the game not the race... so he will use any assists use any camera angles anything possible even a dirty lap as long as the game thinks its clean its all good for him
Even in FH5, you need basically a completely meta car and a lot of cheating and ramming to win against unbeatable. The AI cars on that setting simply don't have to obey the laws of physics, and they definitely make more power than should be possible for a car in a given PI. There are some races where it would be literally impossible to beat them, and you just have to quit the race and start over to chance a different set of cars, or to chance that the AI will miraculously fuck up.
I wish there was some more options for adjusting the chase cam in addition to turning off the obnoxious shaking. Also the rattling of the rear wing looks overdone in slower speeds at least. Can't wait to try the demo whenever it comes out today/tomorrow
Hi fella could you advise is the PlayStation 4 a better buy than Xbox one as I will only use a controller, hope to hear from you sometime and great channel
Is that the transmission skipping @ 8:45? That was horrible in the Forza 6 replays when using manual with clutch. You can hear the transmission skipping as if you've made a bad gear shift.
PC sim racers will force cockpit view to help get rid of the rammers. Who like to see the mayhem they cause. If you want to really join the competition you'll have to use cockpit view and a steering wheel. Although gamepads users will probably be tolerated. Most won't be able to keep up.
Saleen S7 {Flux} well obviously you care enough to reply. And it's relevant because it's a competing racing game. As for the rest of your comment.....What? Surely you're not serious? I downloaded the pc demo and tried it in 4k/60fps with HDR (as it is on the X1x) and it's absolutely stunning.
Just a question any1 know off any improvement to cutting corners from fm6? I mean that shit was out of control hope they bring that back in havnt seen any infomation on that yet
Super GT they really need to fix it just annoying dont want to see poeple just cutting corners cuase they know they can bunch of imbreds.. thanks for the reply cant wait to join the community for some private lobbies
ROADRUNN3R1998 looks the same to me. Camera swing is good, go watch GT sport it looks like the track is turning instead of the car because the chase camera is fixed
Before you do any racing go to the options menu, go to Hud and there should be an option that says Camera motion effects. Turn that off and Reboot the game/demo. If you don't restart the shaking will stop but the sickening camera swing stays. The game/demo saves your settings so when you come back in the Camera swing should be sorted.
I absolutely hate the new chase camera. Really takes away from the rest of the games improvements. Not to mention if you don't turn the motion effects off it's unplayable and gives you a headache.
You are getting hammered on the straights because your entry and exit of the apexes are terrible. Coming out of turn 10 you have loads of wheel spin which gives the AI time to catch you for turns 13 and 14.
Do you race against other peoples Ghost laps ? Like I last played forza 5 and the A.I cars were replays of other people driving and would drive their line above my own and taking me out by A.I driving their line , but otherwise I enjoyed the game
Zark Gto the car was very fast last year, one of the fastest in its class, however, BoP forced them to lower the boost pressure on the turbos by 4-5psi and made the car add 300 pounds which made the car barely competitive this year
At 3:00 Super GT I really didn't expect you to say that I mean cmon you should already know that that Audi and Viper got a high topspeed and your Ford GT is the worst in its class in topspeed :/
Durodes Duvo rubber banding my friend, the AI gets a speed boost when you’re in the lead and are seemingly right behind you when before they were a few seconds behind
Matt Gomberg this years GTE cars(like the Ford GT LM in the video) have higher downforce than previous seasons cars and previous generation GT3 cars, hence why they are faster than the GT. However if the same thing happens when driving GT3 cars then it is the game doing something
Omg I hate it when youtubers try to boast about what assists their using, most people don’t run assists your not the next Lewis Hamilton. Just listen to how many times he mentions his assists or AI difficulty it’s cringeworthy🤦♂️
Oh wow you can see the downforce flexing the rear wing at high speeds, nice little touch.
wonder how it will look on the Renault F1 car with the T-wing
snelmau5 😂😂😂 forza always abuse with Motorsport
i was just about to coment
Its nice but its slightly overdone I think. Never seen a wing flex or move that much on tv.. It is quite nice to look at I must admit. :)
The wing looks so loose that it looks like it'll fall off.
You only really see carbon fibre wobble when you're watching a slow motion video of a car going around a corner. The wobbling is so quick due to to the force and speed, that you can't just see it.
The wing shouldn't wobble and flex like when going at high speeds, it would ruin the aero if there's a constant imbalance of airflow. It's not a 'nice' touch at all.
Yes, Turn 10 cheats the AI into having more horsepower in "Unbeatable" mode. I noticed it back in Forza 5 on replay; I switched to the AI and pulled up the telemetry, and the HP they were pushing out was absurd. Some of them were even squeezing out numbers that would be impossible for you (the player) to tune up to in the very same car they had. I can confirm, "Unbeatable" AI are sadly a bit of a lazy feature from Turn 10.
4:16 ... You did... Cut a corner... WHY?! I TRUSTED YOU
The mechanical sounds seem greatly improved
JSR Devon Agreed.
yes
The problem with the "GT" category in forza is that they are different specs of GT, each GT series around the world has their own specs or BoP ( Balance of Performance ) i.e. IMSA, WEC, Super GT, etc. When Turn 10 gets the license to scan and make a car in the game sometimes they get the car from different series around the world and therefor different performance because each series has its own BoP
Some people complain about the shaking cam...I personally love it!
That's just Johnson AI, nothing to worry about :).
Johnson AI would just crash you all the time. ;)
WHOOOT
Hate the new speedometer. I like how easy it was to see what percent of brake and throttle you were using before. They've made that so tiny you can barely see it
I wonder if the HUD size scales according to the resolution, this is 4K gameplay
M P I agree, it was easier to see that stuff on forza 6.
Also it looks as if it was at angle.
Yep all the HUD while driving is clearly "warped" like the screen was curved.
An update patch can probably fix this. You think management at Turn 10 would be a bit more clever to give us an option to adjust the size but clearly that's not a priority whatsoever.
I see the AI cars still run with traction control on just like the other forza games.
Did anyone saw the wing shake or is it just me..... the level of detail is go good in these games
I wish that, in third person, the speedometer on the HUD would somewhat resemble the speedometer inside the current car you are driving. That would be cool.
The updated sounds are incredible, especially in the gt3 R35
The Audi down that straight looked fine to me. He looked to have a better run off the turn and was in Mercs slipstream. Looks realistic to me.
This game looks so good!
They literally upped the hp of the other cars for unbeatable, not making them drive better but just making them faster
Good to see the Telemetary figures now with black background, easier to see when setting up
Pretty excited for Suzuka. Immediately reminds of GT6 drift section. Definitely can't wait.
I like how the wing my moves in accordance to the speed of the car.
Eliminate the camera shake problem by simply using interior view. I always use interior view for FM games anyway as you can achieve much smoother and faster laps.
jokes on us folks that got Forza 7, cause that's exactly what it turned out to be. Super inconsistent AI that has absurd straight line speeds, way above the homologation threshold for that class.
The motion clarity is quite nice
I understand unbeatable is supposed to be hard, but ffs Forza, don't make the cars with same upgrades faster than one another.
Half a day into the demo and already an unbeatable AI. Very believable
The two things that will make or break this game for me is 1, user created lobbies (like fm4) 2, endurance racing with pit strategy ect.
user created lobbies can be good however, they can have significant drawbacks. Ideally they should have public servers and dedicated servers both available.
+Super GT
The ford gt got a tinier air restrictor this season cause of its dominance last year. While it remains beeing one of the better cornering cars its got the tiniest restrictor on the lowest displacement engine while not beeing significantly lighter than its compeditors. Making it the lowest in a straight line.
Tom Westphal it still shouldn't be slower than GT cars from 2011 and 2012
Lol my drivatar finishes first
RS Prada meh, he sucks so..
I love the end of the race
I don't understand why would anyone not play a racing game in the cockpit view?
because its not a simulator.
TinTin Yu I know, it's much more fun/immersive in cockpit view. It's nice they've added a second view without the steering wheel too, makes it even better when using your own wheel so you don't have 2 wheels in front of you.
Look at the spoiler when u speed up 🤗 frkn dope eyy
Perhaps having the fuel and tyres assist setting on means you have a full tank of fuel which makes you slower. Just speculating though.
This makes me want to play gt6 again.
Awesome video!!
Forza still not getting motorsport right. All GT Cars mixed together and made somehow equal.
And still lacking qualifying etc.
But yeah finally Avatars in the Game......
Ali Bi That's something that has always annoyed me.
Fm4 my old fraiend and miss it and love it
USAID GAMER :,(
Suzuka... long time no see.
They got it right. Taco Salad IS unbeatable.
Like the way u raced
Omg did you see spoiler shake holy crap detail right there
Yes the AI on unbeatable seem to have increased engine power. But at least it is not rubber-banding. Anyone else remember the rubber-banding in FM3? I sure do.
Idk if its the game or the video, but the car looks like it feels lighter, almost more of an arcade style? Is this true?? How does the physics in this game differ from Forza 6 because if I remember correctly, I think they hired a new physics design guy and he completely revamped the physics for Forza 7. Can you elaborate on this?
Blake Patterson Cars felt way heavier too me, which is an imorovement
Did you play on the Xbox One X, if so, was there a noticeable difference worth buying?
TheFlamingChips It was very nice graphically and was very smooth. loading times were noticeably shorter too.
Agreed and nicer than normal
Not a big fan of this camera. :/ I experienced it myself when I was playing it in cologne and thought you can switch that off.
Johnson Racing I coudlnt see a setting for it. All i know is that you can turn off the motion camera shaking.
Yeah, you are probably right. I couldn't change anything on my version.
i usually play in hood view anyway.
Restart the demo and it should work.
ATH option.
Did you get early access to FM7? Awesome!
I like this camera, it gives you a sense of momentum while going through the turns. I can't explain it really but i just like it. As for AI being "unbeatable"....well, maybe you should drive better. You can't drive it like it's NFS and expect to beat competitive AI.
The nextinline This guy made it to the FRC semifinals meaning he's one of the 24 best Forza drivers in the entire world. Since he can't beat unbeatable AI, that's saying something.
JumboJ99 yes but hes a gamer not a racer, so he will do anything to win the game not the race... so he will use any assists use any camera angles anything possible even a dirty lap as long as the game thinks its clean its all good for him
Attention to detail. If you pay attention, you can see the wing shaking and flexing
Really oughta swap the Ford GT LMS and GTR Nismo GT3 sounds...
Does it feel any different as oppose to FM6? Are the graphics better? Do the cars and sounds in general sound better?
Waseem Khan Yes, yes and yes.
I agree very great
Even in FH5, you need basically a completely meta car and a lot of cheating and ramming to win against unbeatable. The AI cars on that setting simply don't have to obey the laws of physics, and they definitely make more power than should be possible for a car in a given PI. There are some races where it would be literally impossible to beat them, and you just have to quit the race and start over to chance a different set of cars, or to chance that the AI will miraculously fuck up.
I wish there was some more options for adjusting the chase cam in addition to turning off the obnoxious shaking. Also the rattling of the rear wing looks overdone in slower speeds at least.
Can't wait to try the demo whenever it comes out today/tomorrow
Tremendouz you can turn off the shaking
Austin Burton I know, I said I wish there were more options than just that
The chase camera is horrible. Really kills the game
That camera is normal for a race game unless the standard has changed in the last few years.
Hi fella could you advise is the PlayStation 4 a better buy than Xbox one as I will only use a controller, hope to hear from you sometime and great channel
@3:15 - That's clearly AI rubberbanding.
Is that the transmission skipping @ 8:45? That was horrible in the Forza 6 replays when using manual with clutch. You can hear the transmission skipping as if you've made a bad gear shift.
Now this looks awesome, can't wait for it to come out
Good to know they haven't improved sounds of the ford... 😕 the car sounds nothing like that in real life
Jonah Hosein yeah i was at a race with the ford gt race car on Saturday and this sounds nothing like the real thing
i’ll take the fm6 sounds any day
So you really drive with the camera like this?? Thats insane
PC sim racers will force cockpit view to help get rid of the rammers. Who like to see the mayhem they cause. If you want to really join the competition you'll have to use cockpit view and a steering wheel. Although gamepads users will probably be tolerated. Most won't be able to keep up.
looks so good looks better then GT SPORT
*Than
Also, who cares? How is that relevant? And how can anyone tell, given that practically all games look the same, graphically, anyway?
Saleen S7 {Flux} well obviously you care enough to reply. And it's relevant because it's a competing racing game. As for the rest of your comment.....What? Surely you're not serious? I downloaded the pc demo and tried it in 4k/60fps with HDR (as it is on the X1x) and it's absolutely stunning.
Seems to have gone back to Forza 5 style HUD
They still haven't fixed the lap timer I see. Would also be nice to have time to previous/next cars rather than distance.
Just a question any1 know off any improvement to cutting corners from fm6? I mean that shit was out of control hope they bring that back in havnt seen any infomation on that yet
naughty nubbin Hard to tell from what I've played so far but stay tuned for an updated opinion on that.
Super GT they really need to fix it just annoying dont want to see poeple just cutting corners cuase they know they can bunch of imbreds.. thanks for the reply cant wait to join the community for some private lobbies
There may be a sort of time penalty system
The AI was slipstreaming him. That's what it looked like anyway
YAY
Don't think this is an instant buy for me but the game some nice small details
Turn 10 seriously need to tone down the Camera Swing. Gonna have to drive interior since that's the only view that seems usable.
ROADRUNN3R1998 looks the same to me. Camera swing is good, go watch GT sport it looks like the track is turning instead of the car because the chase camera is fixed
AL3X2580 It was fine after I restarted the Demo, but at first even with motion effects turned off it would make me feel sick.
Before you do any racing go to the options menu, go to Hud and there should be an option that says Camera motion effects. Turn that off and Reboot the game/demo. If you don't restart the shaking will stop but the sickening camera swing stays. The game/demo saves your settings so when you come back in the Camera swing should be sorted.
Some of those kerbs are giving me cause for concern :( the kerb on the exit of 130R looks fucking treacherous
I absolutely hate the new chase camera. Really takes away from the rest of the games improvements. Not to mention if you don't turn the motion effects off it's unplayable and gives you a headache.
You are getting hammered on the straights because your entry and exit of the apexes are terrible. Coming out of turn 10 you have loads of wheel spin which gives the AI time to catch you for turns 13 and 14.
Do you race against other peoples Ghost laps ? Like I last played forza 5 and the A.I cars were replays of other people driving and would drive their line above my own and taking me out by A.I driving their line , but otherwise I enjoyed the game
What's up with the framerate? Are they just having problems with it, or are they going to force you to buy the Xbox One X for 60fps?
Evan White Just the recording. The game is actually really nice when you play it for yourself.
Super GT, Ok great.
It's because the ford gt has TERRIBLE top end speed compared to the rest of the gt class cars in forza especially stock
Zark Gto irl the top speed is really good forza got it wrong
In real life *
Crucial_US not in GT racing.
Lewis Kiltie yes it does
Zark Gto the car was very fast last year, one of the fastest in its class, however, BoP forced them to lower the boost pressure on the turbos by 4-5psi and made the car add 300 pounds which made the car barely competitive this year
The ford gt Le Mans stock has like one of the worst tops speeds in forza 6 so yeah
are you aloud to show off the renault f1 car?
squishy nigga I can but once I get the full game at my own place.
Rubber banding, yay
Can you show the sound options menu? Is it just one slider now or can you change engine, tyres, music etc all seperately this time around?
Yes all seperate
That doesn't sound close to the Ford GTLM still hype for this game tho
The Forza 7 AI does not overtake.
why can't they leave the best lap time on instead of taking it away
At 3:00 Super GT I really didn't expect you to say that I mean cmon you should already know that that Audi and Viper got a high topspeed and your Ford GT is the worst in its class in topspeed :/
not a fan of the new camera at all, hopefully they update it and make an option to turn it off! also it looks like its at 20fps?
Not a fan of the apparent NOS that the AI gets on tough difficulties.
Durodes Duvo rubber banding my friend, the AI gets a speed boost when you’re in the lead and are seemingly right behind you when before they were a few seconds behind
How can you play racing sim without cockpit view? What's the point?
Pro is already feeling like the ai is cheating
Hey, ever heard of slipstream? 3:00
Death Curbs everywhere it seems. 130R exit and turn 1 exit seem to be really bad made, again.
Seven .Kamykaz Yup, some of them are very bumpy. they did feel better overall though.
Really enjoying this game, but it ain't no sim.
your wheels are aspinning after the corner
+Super GT is FM7 Released end of tis month or early next month ??
Sep 29 for Ultimate Edition owners, Oct 3 for the rest
does the grass have the same effect as fm6 where u justget lost in it
Your car might be running more areo than the others that would explain u being better in the corners but worse on the straits
Matt Gomberg this years GTE cars(like the Ford GT LM in the video) have higher downforce than previous seasons cars and previous generation GT3 cars, hence why they are faster than the GT. However if the same thing happens when driving GT3 cars then it is the game doing something
CAR Laige AI for Unbeatable? Damn.
GTR Merginator seems to be. I was miles off
why do all the cars drift like they would in an arcade racer?
What difficulty is this? Pro?
R you going to play with us ultimate buyers?
For whatever reason, this car isnt available in my game as is many other gt cars.
I am going to drift the crap out of this track!
Forza Motorsport 6: FM7 DLC
Damn good dlc tho
snelmau5 XD no. Never have I seen a Dlc with native 4K 60fps 700 cars 30 tracks with 200 layouts. GTFO XD
David Aceituno still, i wish they added new race cars
snelmau5 More like Forza 6 and Forza 4, with a graphic improvement!!!
Hate...???
For some reason it don't look 60fps to me
How in the hell did you get the game too fracking early 😦
Omg I hate it when youtubers try to boast about what assists their using, most people don’t run assists your not the next Lewis Hamilton. Just listen to how many times he mentions his assists or AI difficulty it’s cringeworthy🤦♂️
like ford GT50(500)? very much