Nah, he's not Yoko Taro. Taro is the one who would make Smash part of his series' canon lore if there was any crossover with it (and would find a way to cram some significant previously unknown lore detail into the stage). Nomura makes every KH spinoff major to the lore, but he stops short of making it tie in directly with other series' canons. Taro doesnt stop there with his series (the FFXIV crossover is canon to Drakengard/Nier for instance and has some new lore tidbits)
The man has a problem with wanting everything Kingdom Hearts touches to be canon. Although Smash would make sense and I rationalized it as his heart going through training as his younger self to build himself back up
I can imagine Sora throwing in the keyblade first, it's burning energy wakes Mario so he is able to grab it and open the keyhole for Sora to come through. It's as if Sora gave Mario (the first fighter) the honor of bringing him (the last fighter) to the world of Smash Ultimate.
Oh my god oh my fuck AAAAA Everyone is joking about these kinds of things but I just remembered HOW NOMURA MAKES EVERY PIECE OF KINGDOM HEARTS CONTENT CANON. Every single """spin off""" title including the damn MOBILE/WEB GAMES is canon and important to the lore. So that means Sora being in Smash is 1000% canon.
ever since the ending of KH3 and RE:Mind dlc i've been saying that kingdom hearts will continue with Video game worlds from Square enix instead of disney franchises. sora being in smash makes me feel like my theory is slowly becoming reality!!
The saga is done, but not necessarily the game. Just the end of Sora's story, so we're still likely to get KH games in the future. Maybe not any time soon, but we still will.
@@DiZphunx it still is Sora's story, just not the xehanort saga. Judging by the KH3 credits scene we see riku and sora in shibuya, probably will be like CoM and DDD where you play as both.
Nah, he just went to sleep. However in KH3 he actually "disappears" most likely to join Cloud and Sephiroth in their vacations before returning somehow because this is a Kingdom Hearts game you silly billy, no one can die here.
@@megnugget2631 Sora is in a fictional world depicting shibuya post KH3. it makes more sense that smash was one of the worlds he visited while they were trying to fix his memories in CoM since he forgets the events of it.
Kingdom Hearts SPOILERS Well at the end of Melody of Memory it is discovered that Sora is in a world of "fiction" known as Quadratum after the sacrifice he makes to restore Kairi's heart. So being temporarily displaced in the world of Smash Bros. tracks and doesn't break the canon. It can fit if Tetsuya Nomura wants it to.
Him being a kid isn't too much of an issue when you realize: -he changes looks every other world he goes to -has a clone of his kid form made from text from a journal -and time travels like there's no tomorrow. If you wanted to look at smash bros as it's own "world" it would be pretty far from normal. All the characters are usually in their most iconic form so why should sora be any different?
@@bigberto707 he never deages though, entirely different than the typically slight alterations on diff worlds. Though some change him a bit more like Atlantica monsters, inc. most are simple costume swaps.
To the people who are like "But how can he come from KH3 when in smash he's KH1 sora?" Remember these 3 things: 1.) Ike has both his younger form and his older form in the Smash world, so its completely plausible for Sora to have his younger form in this alternate dimension. 2.) Sora not only has his KH1 outfit, but he also has his KH2 and KH3 outfits which means that him going to Smash did in fact happen after the events of KH3. 3.) The Smash universe is an alternate Dimension where all kinds of Magic and Phenomenon can and Do exist. Its within the realm of possibility that he can Deage upon going there. Just look at Solid Snakes design. P.S. I know that Smash isn't actually Canon. But it's fun to imagine how him going to Smash after KH3 could happen. Just keep all of this in mind.
@@Krypto1201 I thought it was because Pyra and Mythra are both attractive big booba anime girls, and Sora is at least a pre-teen kid. But your explanation works better. XD
After beating Yosora Sora was required to save Super Smash U. And he visits his beloved Kairi and his friends from time to time. That last scene was when he said goodbye to her because he has to return to the new world.
This is the reason why fiction is so fun. There is no real wrong answer to why he is young in smash. Some people say it is a Data-Sora while in my mind and some other people it is a worldly transformation to make him younger. If you think it's canon in your mind it is canon for you.
Mickey Mouse: I wanted to tell you right away... about memories from the past that sleep within you. And about the pieces that will tie you to your future. sora you are who you are because of those people but they're hurting and you're the only one who can end their sadness. They need you it's possible that all your journey so far have been preparing you for this great new task that's waiting for you I should have known there were no coincidences, only links in a much larger chain of events. And now the door to your next journey is ready to be opened.
Now we just need a wardrobe retcon explanation of Sora reverting back to his old look, like when they had to provide a reson for Mickey being shirtless
That's not that hard considering dream drop distance. Supposing Smash is inside Unreality, being a complete different Dimension outside of the Realms of KH's Reality, it perfectly allows for some whatever reason of cleaning his Self image and resetting himself to look, probably, to how he feels inside, instead of his real appearance, thanks to travelling through the Sleeping Realm and Final World (death). Idk.
ppl im in my workspace right now (a covid center) and there is a colleague singing for another colleague kkkkkkk she is singing Amar não é pecado, from Luan Santana
It could also possibly be a DDD situation. Possibly Smash's world is "asleep" (dream). Sleeping worlds are in a moment where time stops for them (like how they all became trophies in the reveal trailers). Sora met a younger Mickey and friends in two dream worlds of the past (Musketeers, Sorcerer's Apprentice) and also found Tron in his future (Tron: Legacy), and in DDD Sora also returned to his KH1 youth (probably due to it being a dream) but got a new outfit.
I mean, most likely, because Sakurai has done things like that before. For example, the whole reason Marth and Roy were in Melee was to promote Fire Emblem being localized to America and Europe. And the reason Bayonetta was in Smash Wii U was to promote the Bayonetta games coming to the Wii U. So yeah, it was most likely a KH promotion.
Kairi "I thought you said we were gonna smash?"
Sora "No you misheard me, I'm going to Smash."
OH MY STARS
OOOOOOOF NOW HE CAN FINALLY LEAVE DISNEY AND JOIN NINTENDO
Riku: Did I mishear the same thing?
Sora: No, meet me in 5
@@mattm2451 oooof
@@mattm2451 PUT ON THE ROBIN SUIT
This actually makes sense and the devs actually put the exact track too
Except the one in KH3 abounds a bit different
The kh3 version is a bit different
@@BladePlays clothes are pretty different too
Yeah if you ignore the random de ageing.
I think the one where Sora is put to sleep still fits better
knowing nomura sora in smash is probably canon and very important to the story
"safe journey, Sora"
smash cut to Sora getting the tar beat out of him by a giant gorilla
I mean, doesn’t that also happen in KH?
@@fivestarguy100 yes but its not violent enough
🤣🤣🤣
Kingdom hearts 2 intro starts as dk yeets sora
I was waiting for Nomura to pop up being Sakurai and tell us "....And it's all canon!" with a shit-eating grin.
Nomura "And Mr. Sakuria is the master of masters!"
Me "Wait what?! No wait, that actually makes sense."
Nah, he's not Yoko Taro. Taro is the one who would make Smash part of his series' canon lore if there was any crossover with it (and would find a way to cram some significant previously unknown lore detail into the stage).
Nomura makes every KH spinoff major to the lore, but he stops short of making it tie in directly with other series' canons. Taro doesnt stop there with his series (the FFXIV crossover is canon to Drakengard/Nier for instance and has some new lore tidbits)
The worst part is thats gonna happen
@@OniGamer00 Nah
The man has a problem with wanting everything Kingdom Hearts touches to be canon. Although Smash would make sense and I rationalized it as his heart going through training as his younger self to build himself back up
I can imagine Sora throwing in the keyblade first, it's burning energy wakes Mario so he is able to grab it and open the keyhole for Sora to come through. It's as if Sora gave Mario (the first fighter) the honor of bringing him (the last fighter) to the world of Smash Ultimate.
The reason they shook hands at the end is because Sora represents the core of smash
@@cannonblackwell3172 no???
That zoomed in handshake I swear is a reference to king Mickey dude white glove? Come onnnn
The handshake represents the last fighter and the first fighter
@@doomguy.23frommars60 ok???
Why does this actually make sense tho-
Nice pic lol
Because our boy needed to regain his power, and what better grind than a Smash Brawl?
Because our bit needed to regain his power, and what better grind than a Smash Brawl?
I mean, if you ignore the whole de ageing a few year maybe.
You could take any sora scene of him going somewhere and it would make sense
"I will never forget Kary"
"Who the flippin flip is Kary I only care about SmAsH bRoS"
Okay I believe you
Darkness
You will be the leader’s right hand man
…
I said, you will be the leader’s right hand man
…
Aced?
In Aced’s mind:
*_gUmMy BeArS_*
@@josoulsmainchannel7615 darkness within darkness.
@@oscardepaz3063 use the darkness
Sora dipped to go play with Mario
And Cloud.
And Sephiroth.
id hang with nintendo characters over disney anyday they dont sing most of them dont even talk
@@nateskate999 I wouldn't want to hang out with wario
@@Chillgamesh or Sephiroth
@@nateskate999 I wish link would talk
Oh my god oh my fuck AAAAA
Everyone is joking about these kinds of things but I just remembered HOW NOMURA MAKES EVERY PIECE OF KINGDOM HEARTS CONTENT CANON.
Every single """spin off""" title including the damn MOBILE/WEB GAMES is canon and important to the lore. So that means Sora being in Smash is 1000% canon.
Kairi: Hey Sora, I’m alone. Wanna come over~
Sora: Nah B! I’m gonna smash with the Boiiiii’s!
ever since the ending of KH3 and RE:Mind dlc i've been saying that kingdom hearts will continue with Video game worlds from Square enix instead of disney franchises. sora being in smash makes me feel like my theory is slowly becoming reality!!
i mean Cloud and Sephiroth are in Smash so you arent wrong
Kingdom hearts is owned soley by disney. There's no way in hell they would ignore their own ip in favor of videogame franchises.
OR it could be the fact that it's Kingdom Hearts 20th Anniversary
@Cannon Blackwell Don’t forget Hero
Ngl the re mind dlc reeks of we will feature games in the futuree
I'm now considering it canon that smash bros is heaven for video game characters
That makes sense given Banjo.
the game is done anyway so I can see that disney would let sora just go for once.
The saga is done, but not necessarily the game. Just the end of Sora's story, so we're still likely to get KH games in the future. Maybe not any time soon, but we still will.
@@DiZphunx it still is Sora's story, just not the xehanort saga. Judging by the KH3 credits scene we see riku and sora in shibuya, probably will be like CoM and DDD where you play as both.
@@DiZphunx it’s the end of the xehanort saga. soras story isn’t over
did you guys not play melody of memory or see the final cutscene 😭 sora’s story isnt over
I prefer that sora came to smash from chain of memories when namine sent him away
Nah, he just went to sleep. However in KH3 he actually "disappears" most likely to join Cloud and Sephiroth in their vacations before returning somehow because this is a Kingdom Hearts game you silly billy, no one can die here.
Yes maybe he's dreaming about joining smash
@@megnugget2631 Sora is in a fictional world depicting shibuya post KH3. it makes more sense that smash was one of the worlds he visited while they were trying to fix his memories in CoM since he forgets the events of it.
@@megnugget2631 I feel like Sleeping Hearts was a metaphor for death, like when they'd talk about waking Sleeping hearts
If that was the case then he would have no memory on how to fight or who he is. Or why he's in Smash
Kingdom Hearts SPOILERS
Well at the end of Melody of Memory it is discovered that Sora is in a world of "fiction" known as Quadratum after the sacrifice he makes to restore Kairi's heart. So being temporarily displaced in the world of Smash Bros. tracks and doesn't break the canon. It can fit if Tetsuya Nomura wants it to.
This made kh3's ending 1000 times better
the really unexpected thing was when sakurai added his timeless river design as a skin
That surprised me too. I was kind of expecting Sora's Halloween Town form since the world is such a mainstay of the series.
@@lightyearpig12 htown is another 2 copyrights likely, timeless river is pure disney so yea.
@lightyearpig12 Same! That’s one of my fav outfits all time but I aint gonna complain about Timeless river
@@lightyearpig12 I was kinda hoping it was Rage Form tbh.
@@superiorofthein-between8790 exactly
It is canon, thats what makes it amazing.
Him being a kid isn't too much of an issue when you realize:
-he changes looks every other world he goes to
-has a clone of his kid form made from text from a journal
-and time travels like there's no tomorrow.
If you wanted to look at smash bros as it's own "world" it would be pretty far from normal. All the characters are usually in their most iconic form so why should sora be any different?
I mean Sora still is a kid. But I get what you mean though.
Well I don't know how old he is but he looks like a teenager in kh2 and 3.
Hell you can look at Smash Bros. as a Sleeping World where video game characters from other universes go to when they sleep
This actually makes so much sense. This is my headcanon now
@@billx6545 Sora is 14 in KH1, 15 in KH2, and about 15 1/2 to 16 in 3.
Kairi "Should we smash?"
Sora " Yeah after I smashbro first"
He sent his heart to Smash. Of course. It makes sense.
Then when he’s done, Re:Mind happens. Then he heads back. Of course
Imagine in the next kingdom hearts game, a smash joke or a smash esc game in the game.
in the next kingdom hearts game mario has the keyblade
and somehow he becomes younger...
Well to not really mess with the world oder he does change to suit the world needs. Mermaid in Antarctica, spooky in Halloween Town.
just like in the non-numbered games, which is the key detail that makes Sora in smash canon.
I mean, KH3 mentioned "Unreality" which is basically 'video game worlds', this being Sora's first stop isn't crazy
@@bigberto707 he never deages though, entirely different than the typically slight alterations on diff worlds. Though some change him a bit more like Atlantica monsters, inc. most are simple costume swaps.
@@Vashy434 he deages in Dream Drop Distance tho.
Kairi: Aren’t you gonna rescue me?!
Sora: Nah. I’m heading to a better a game!
The final world is just final destination.
Makes sense. Pretty sure Melee's FD has you visiting the Final World at one point.
To the people who are like "But how can he come from KH3 when in smash he's KH1 sora?" Remember these 3 things:
1.) Ike has both his younger form and his older form in the Smash world, so its completely plausible for Sora to have his younger form in this alternate dimension.
2.) Sora not only has his KH1 outfit, but he also has his KH2 and KH3 outfits which means that him going to Smash did in fact happen after the events of KH3.
3.) The Smash universe is an alternate Dimension where all kinds of Magic and Phenomenon can and Do exist. Its within the realm of possibility that he can Deage upon going there. Just look at Solid Snakes design.
P.S.
I know that Smash isn't actually Canon. But it's fun to imagine how him going to Smash after KH3 could happen. Just keep all of this in mind.
Dude, the KH developer makes every piece of KH content canon to KH, Sora in Smash is 100% canon to KH. XD
_Man went from 15 back to 14 years old on sum Dream Drop Distance type shit_
This is either a massive coincidence or a big brain move from both Nomura and Sakurai
He seen pyra and instantly felt attracted I bet😂😌😂
Hell yeah!🤣
I would’ve done the same thing tbh
Mythra is better
@@onewingedren2228 I'm saying cause Pyra looks like Kairi
@@Krypto1201 I thought it was because Pyra and Mythra are both attractive big booba anime girls, and Sora is at least a pre-teen kid. But your explanation works better. XD
And it made him younger
Dream Drop Distance and the very start of KH3 (Dive to the heart) did that too.
Easier to explain than shirtless Mickey
Geez, would it be so hard to animate Mickey's cheeks so that he's not smiling all the freaking time? Even Mickey Mouse Clubhouse got that right.
Dammit Smash actually IS gonna be in Kingdom Hearts lore, isn’t it?
The way the KH3 version of Hikari segways into KH1's was clean.
Eh Kairi was never going to kiss Sora anyway.
After beating Yosora Sora was required to save Super Smash U. And he visits his beloved Kairi and his friends from time to time. That last scene was when he said goodbye to her because he has to return to the new world.
Welcome to Kingdom Hearts 3.5: Smashing Through
My favorite track in the whole series and my dream character is finally here 😃😁❤🗝
Ngl this actually make sense. In KH3 Cloud and sephiroth are not in the game but somehow in smash.
Kairi: Sigh.. I will do it myself
Namine: But who are you going to rescue?
Kairi: (stares seductively at Namine)
Namine: oh!😳.....ohhh... 😏
Namine: but Kairi this a children game I don’t think Disney would approve of this
It's crazy cuz this really makes sense too when you think about it
This is the reason why fiction is so fun. There is no real wrong answer to why he is young in smash. Some people say it is a Data-Sora while in my mind and some other people it is a worldly transformation to make him younger. If you think it's canon in your mind it is canon for you.
Mickey : safe Journey Sora.
Yeah sure with Sephiroth there he Will need all the Staf of Disney hahaha
Mickey Mouse: I wanted to tell you right away... about memories from the past that sleep within you. And about the pieces that will tie you to your future. sora you are who you are because of those people but they're hurting and you're the only one who can end their sadness. They need you it's possible that all your journey so far have been preparing you for this great new task that's waiting for you I should have known there were no coincidences, only links in a much larger chain of events. And now the door to your next journey is ready to be opened.
This is perfect for Kindom Hearts 3 secret cutscene
Now we just need a wardrobe retcon explanation of Sora reverting back to his old look, like when they had to provide a reson for Mickey being shirtless
That's not that hard considering dream drop distance. Supposing Smash is inside Unreality, being a complete different Dimension outside of the Realms of KH's Reality, it perfectly allows for some whatever reason of cleaning his Self image and resetting himself to look, probably, to how he feels inside, instead of his real appearance, thanks to travelling through the Sleeping Realm and Final World (death). Idk.
The Power of Waking baby
Quadradum looks pretty cool!
Can’t wait to see the super Mario world in the next final fantasy!
Yes. I’m fine with this happy ending.
Kingdom Hearts 3: **Sora vanished**
Super Smash Bros Ultimate:
--> Retry
quit
Sora summoning the hole he is summoned through is totally like the falling-diving scene in kh1
Sora went back in time to be in smash. Yup sounds like a KH story plot
Or he came to Smash before/after fighting Yozora, when Fairy Godmother said he was taken to the World of Fiction.
Sora: Ayo wait I thought I was goin somewhere else but I’m fine with this
Just one of many stops he makes on his journey.
The real reason Sora is in Smash is so that he can get the trust of the roster’s characters so Lord Mickey Palpatine can buy Nintendo
So Xehanort Norted Mickey and now he's hungry for money.
So apparently Sora went back to being a 14 year old? Makes sense 😶
Wait until you play DDD
And after that he's heading to Mushroom Kingdom
Edit: You really had to add the part where he fades out, which then proceeds to hit me in the feels?
I was thinking the exact same thing!! They gotta take out the secret ending from III!!
Kingdom hearts the series where people go to fight in smash when they vanish
This is bittersweet but more sweet than bitter, unless you’re a hard shipper of Sora and Kairi.
Ye
Woah, he even managed to change his clothes too.
That's the (abusive) power of waking for ya. It made him younger and gave him his old clothes back.
A character from a game about crossovers is crossing over to a game about crossovers. How meta are we?
So that's what Sora is doing between KH3 and KH4 lol 🤣
IMPOSSIBLE, THIS CANNOT BE?!
-WACK
If Xenoblade and Kid Icarus can make Smash canon, why not?
Sora be like FUCK THIS CONVOLUTED STORY IMMA GO PLAY SMASH BROS
I think the part where he fades away makes more sense
ppl im in my workspace right now (a covid center) and there is a colleague singing for another colleague kkkkkkk
she is singing Amar não é pecado, from Luan Santana
That's how I remember the way the game end
Imagine KH4 has nintendo worlds to visit...
Kairi “ When will you be back?”
Sora “ Whenever I’m done smashin”
lets ignore the fact he suddenly unaged in those few seconds
It could also possibly be a DDD situation. Possibly Smash's world is "asleep" (dream). Sleeping worlds are in a moment where time stops for them (like how they all became trophies in the reveal trailers). Sora met a younger Mickey and friends in two dream worlds of the past (Musketeers, Sorcerer's Apprentice) and also found Tron in his future (Tron: Legacy), and in DDD Sora also returned to his KH1 youth (probably due to it being a dream) but got a new outfit.
DDD SPOILER ALERT:
In DDD, the younger and super cheerful Sora, was actually appears according to how Riku remember/think of him.
Ah this makes sense cause sora used smash brothers to prepare for his fight against Yozora
Well Ansem did say that Sora was in "unreality".
Nomura will find a way
Nothing can ever be a side thing. It always has to be canon to the story somehow.
(Reconnect.
Kingdom Hearts)
An Oath To Return
i love happy endings
This is a certified video game classic
Knowing Nomura this probably is canon.
What a powerful ending. *sadyoshi*
nearly at 100k u got this
Sora traveled back in time to save Kari but he traveled even farther than he needed to so he can fight in smash
It was about time that someone would make this xD
A better ending than what we got
I guess the portal regressed his age back to KH1
I was gonna make a video of this but thank you friend!
This is exactly what I thought when I saw Sora flying around.
When getting invited to Smash is worked in the game's canon
Guarantee the reason he's in Smash is because of Kingdom Hearts' 20th Anniversary and the fact it's going to be on the Switch
I mean, most likely, because Sakurai has done things like that before. For example, the whole reason Marth and Roy were in Melee was to promote Fire Emblem being localized to America and Europe. And the reason Bayonetta was in Smash Wii U was to promote the Bayonetta games coming to the Wii U. So yeah, it was most likely a KH promotion.
0:00 This really works now especially since Disney actually gave the okay to put Sora in.
Oh so this was the secret ending.
“Who the hell is Kary, I only care about MaRiO”
yes very canon this is all the info i needed yes thank you
Today is the day, the day that he will finally be home
Watch Nomura make Smash Ultimate canon for KH4
His entrance into smash was like “yes it’s me bitches, the queen has arrived”
Makes senses to me.
He has transcended time and space