On December 20, 2017, a Baltimore Circuit Court judge ruled the city’s ban is too vague for the city to enforce. That it was "ambiguous" and "subjective." The judge failed to rule on the Constitutionality (MD State Constitution, that is) of the ordinance. The Institute of Justice is appealing to get that ruling.
There is nothing more vague than the Constitution itself -- heck almost all of the statutes, rules, laws, policies, procedures, and so on are broad and up to interpretation.
@@TruckTaxiMoveIt The constitution is very short and to the point. Unlike all these long convoluted state statutes brought out by elites with buddies that don't want competition.
There is 1 place worse than Baltimore, MD, and that's the commonwealth of Virginia. Racketeering and unconstitutional laws thrive in that place. It's Hell.
People need to understand that most of the time City Council members are business owners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so if a city council member owns a restaurant for example what do you think they will do to keep competition out?!!!!!!!!!!
but they aren't keeping competition out. he is free to compete anywhere else in that area, but he chooses to go into a spot where there are pizzarias selling the exact same product. he's exploiting parking spots to sell the exact same product, selling food btw that we have plenty of, and skipping rent while taking over small mom and pop shop businesses. if he really wants to be another pizza store, and his pizza is really that good, then he should do it fairly (and legally in plenty of states) by paying rent in his own area. If he was creating an electric car like Tesla where gas was harming the environment and no one else is willing to pursue this, then god speed to him. He's entering a business that fulfill wants, not needs, and he's doing it in a dishonorable way by parking right next to a store that sells the exact same product, in a business that heavily relies on location, and who's no different situation than him who needs the money to pay rent and is not some large corporation, and complaining about it. InstituteforJustice has some good case studies, but this one was rushed and they let their bias get the best of them.
There is a difference between buying from a truck vendor than going inside a restaurant and buying there, the restaurant pays rent, city licencing etc. but so it has more advantages over the truck vendor, the truck vendor is just temporary vendor, should the truck vendor park just by the restaurant? no I don't think so, neither is any other truck or any vehicle that interfere with the proper functioning of the business by blocking it or now allowing people to walk by easily, but that's no the problem, the problem is that these truck vendors are no allowed usually within 100-900 Ft from the restaurant that sells the same food, that is crony capitalism, if the truck would want to park close to a park a few blocks away he can't because is too close to the restaurant, this is what is wrong, is about keeping competition out, not about what is fair!!!! city council members will often reject new restaurants because guess what? they own their own restaurant.!!!! and want them out, whether they sell from a truck or restaurant!!! THAT'S WHAT WE CALL CRONY CAPITALISM!!!!!!
I see plenty of trucks finding business in locations outside the zones. Whether it be in hospitals, college campuses, or corporate parking lots. Usually these require permissions from nearby establishments and that is how it should be as it's so easy for trucks to cook food wherever they want, even if it is unwanted by non-restaurant owners. You can speculate all you want about corruption, and to say ALL of the politicians regulating this laws is corrupt is full of baloney, but the truth is, *they are overcrowding an already oversaturated market and instead of producing they are just replacing hard workers. This is more about distributing LIMTED wealth rather than creating it for example, and what is not what capitalism is about. It will destroy businesses UNNECESSARILY and like someone here suggested ridiculously, we have to all become food trucks now if there is no regulation.*
that would be fair if he was paying the same rent other stores were, but that's not the case. he's not going against a corporation but the same mom and pop stores that worked hard for that spot with little to nothing. Although it doesn't mean every customer will dilute out, it will eventually hurt sales enough to put them at risk. I say go do something other than creating the same commodity while ruining small business owners, if location is that important to your business. He could start somewhere else and sell his pizza if his pizza is so good. If the business owner is doing a bad job, they will eventually not be able to pay rent, so it's not always because other stores are not good, but location is a huge factor for customers. My parents fed me with the hard work they put into their convenient store, but some people feel they can just come in without paying rent and compete right next to us selling the exact same convenient goods. Location matters to us and we sell the same shit they do, but they decided to park next to our store and steal customers. That's why they have these rules, unfortunately, it isn't law in our county. Parents did a good job and have loyal customers, but it ended up hurting our sales eventually since people could care less for commodity products, and there really is no reason for these guys to come into our area other than greed. They are not innovating. They are not doing anything different. They are selling the exact same shit trying to replace us without any of the work we put in, and benefiting from the marketing we put in with the location of our store and relationship with some of our loyal customers. Luckly there was a loophole and the whole area had parking zones with limited time, and most of it was meant for employees and guests, so the police did eventually take care of them with tickets. I'm all for competing if it's an industry where innovation is crucial. But a convenient store owned by a less privilige family who absolutely depend on the store, we ultimately sell commodities and although we innovate as much as we can by offering goods that other stores don't, location is a key factor for any brick and motar, and to have someone sell things in front of it, truck or in person, is a greedy ass move and people don't realize it. Imagine if you opened up a pizza restaurant, and a guy decides to stand in front of your door and sell pizza. If a store is corrupt or is absolutely doing a shit ass job, wait till it fails, because it will and many small stores do if they suck at what they do, and then pay the rent and lease the location. Don't come walking in front of my store or park a truck next to it and start selling the exact same shit. It's selfish and your ruining families income who built success with little to no opportunities. My parents are 1st gen immigrants who came from a more difficult country with little education offered there, and they used pure hard work to biuld there customer base to what it is today. Fuck these vendors who decide to park right next to stores that sell the same shit they do. This video is poorly thought out.
what bribes? he's exploiting parking spots to sell the exact same product, selling food btw that we have plenty of, and skipping rent while taking over small mom and pop shop businesses. if he really wants to be another pizza store, and his pizza is really that good, then he should do it fairly (and legally in plenty of states) by paying rent in his own area. If he was creating an electric car like Tesla where gas was harming the environment and no one else is willing to pursue this, then god speed to him. He's entering a business that fulfill wants, not needs, and he's doing it in a dishonorable way by parking right next to a store that sells the exact same product, in a business that heavily relies on location, and who's no different situation than him who needs the money to pay rent and is not some large corporation, and complaining about it. InstituteforJustice has some good case studies, but this one was rushed and they let their bias get the best of them.
what does police or council have to do with this. it's a fking common law for foodtrucks being penalized for sitting in front of a store selling the exact same shit.
I used to own a food cart, but while I empathize with his situation, I disagree with his argument. The owners of brick and mortar restaurants have much more capital and risk tied up in their properties and they pay a premium for a good location. Food trucks such as Joey's are simply poaching on those more expensive areas. If Joey was being fair, he might band with other like minded owners of food trucks/carts and develop an area for their exclusive use. In Portland, Oregon food carts band together on undeveloped land, install bathroom facilities, lighted dining areas and often bring in utilities. These areas are called 'pods' they provide a range of offerings to satisfy the customers.
Yes, I agree, brick and morter has to be protected. I really like that spiral looking pizza. I would drive across town to try Joey's pizza. Joey can set up shop anywhere else. Brick and mortar are stuck where they are. You already know that you have imagination. Try using it instead of banging your head on a brick and mortar wall (and save money on lawyers).
@@johngritjohngrit140 why cant Joey make a better product? You made no real reason to use government violence to protect a business, to which no business should be protected from market forces
Apparently they are inundated with restaurants in the area that he wants to be which means that even though they want him to be no less than 350 feet away by the graphics that they put in the video the 350 ft are overlapping each other I'm at the point in which they no longer overlap the food truck vendor doesn't want to be there Clearly the market Target location is oversaturated they don't need a food truck the food truck will only be taking business away from the other businesses that are already there there's your competition now if you want to bring a food truck there and you want to put them on the street that's going to take parking away from the people who are trying to patronize the restaurant or the other shops that are in the area
@@spongmongler6760 My brother is a chef and owned a mobile food business. If you look at restaurant saturation in a neighborhood, and then at the relative costs and margins of food trucks vs. dine-in restaurants, you'll see why these ordinances make sense.
he's exploiting parking spots to sell the exact same product, selling food btw that we have plenty of, and skipping rent while taking over small mom and pop shop businesses. if he really wants to be another pizza store, and his pizza is really that good, then he should do it fairly (and legally in plenty of states) by paying rent in his own area. If he was creating an electric car like Tesla where gas was harming the environment and no one else is willing to pursue this, then god speed to him. He's entering a business that fulfill wants, not needs, and he's doing it in a dishonorable way by parking right next to a store that sells the exact same product, in a business that heavily relies on location, and who's no different situation than him who needs the money to pay rent and is not some large corporation, and complaining about it. InstituteforJustice has some good case studies, but this one was rushed and they let their bias get the best of them.
hey if a food truck parks next door to ur restaurant and sells food that is better then who is to say its wrong? And why do people have to pay rent in your eyes to be good business owner? Are you a landlord?
it's not always the case the food is better. often they sell the same product and the consumer base saturates. again, it's a commodity product and heavily relies on location for convenience needed by customers. you pay rent to work hard for the location one put sweat and tears for, and again, if the food is bad, they won't make rent. Having an oversupply of trucks that jump around from one location to another, last thing someone needs is 10 pizza trucks parked in a spot diluting the customer base, selling a commodity with little to no innovation, having stores come and go. It's a bully tatic no different that what corporations do to small business owners. If he wants to sell pizza so much, he can do so in less than a quarter mile away from the store. It's like building a home where you brought the traffic in and having someone advertise in your home as a competitor. It's cheating, and some people think that is what capitalism is about, greed, but it's not.
Medic Friends they pay the same taxes as a mom and pop shop. there been restaurants next to other restaurants. They are just cutting competition when the restaurant business is a competieve industry . they the people decide where to eat not the restaurants , dont try to limit people choices ok people dont like that
you forget the problem is the fact that these trucks park way too close to directly competing for restaurants that sell the exact same thing. they are free to compete at a reasonable distance. 300 feet is a lot smaller than people realize. paying taxes doesn't exempt you from playing dirty in business. this law exist for a reason, and it's ironic that InstituteForJustice is supposed to back those who work hard and are small businesses, which are the exact people these food trucks are griefing by refusing to sell at their own location, and instead placing themselves in an already crowded, oversaturated area that these restaurants themselves helped build at least in terms of traffic. Go make your own, don't leech off of other's hard work. they are not limiting choices, as they are selling the exact same thing. this guy claims his pizza is so good, he should have no problem selling just 300 feet away, or find a different spot that doesn't sell pizza. people will naturally just do what's best for them, but won't realize that as they divide out their business into food trucks, these restaurants will have to close their doors because these trucks refuse to do business just 300 feet elsewhere. Restaurants that suck will not make rent, as I have stated it is not easy to make rent. Higher traffic usually equal higher rent. Telling restaurant owners to give up their investment and go open a more high maintenance food truck (just because it's cheaper does not make it better for the long run) JUST BECAUSE these food trucks don't want to compete the right way by not selling directly next to the fking competition, then it is fine.
he's exploiting parking spots to sell the exact same product, selling food btw that we have plenty of, and skipping rent while taking over small mom and pop shop businesses. if he really wants to be another pizza store, and his pizza is really that good, then he should do it fairly (and legally in plenty of states) by paying rent in his own area. If he was creating an electric car like Tesla where gas was harming the environment and no one else is willing to pursue this, then god speed to him. He's entering a business that fulfill wants, not needs, and he's doing it in a dishonorable way by parking right next to a store that sells the exact same product, in a business that heavily relies on location, and who's no different situation than him who needs the money to pay rent and is not some large corporation, and complaining about it. InstituteforJustice has some good case studies, but this one was rushed and they let their bias get the best of them.
@@medicfriends8163 lol "honor" you dont become wealthy with your notion of "honor" you get their by slitting the throat of your competition, and why should he pay rent and all of these other expenses when there is a cheaper option at his disposal? Hard work does not get you anywhere. Smart work is what gets you places
capitalism isn't about going into a saturated market and slitting your opponent's throat by cheating and corruption, like what many in wall street think. Capitalism is about innovating and creating new markets thus making progress for society. Having a bunch of people become pizzarias on a truck and "slitting people's throat" isn't getting us anything other than a different tasting pizza. What you're proposing is to destroy all restaurant owners and having them transition into trucks that have plenty of problems of its own. Those who claim absolute free anything (free from controL) are foolish and our objective is to make better, more efficient laws, not completely let everything lose and let some sort of mafia resort to violence to "slit the throat of your competition." by the way, these so called restaurant owners aren't your usual wall street businessmen who can move onto other ventures easily with their 6 figure paycheck. Usually when you compete against restaurant owners, you're going against people who have little to nothing to fall back to, at the cost of little to no innovation. If their restaurant is bad, I can gaurantee you, they will not make rent. Coming from a first-gen immigrant who's parent's owned a convenient store for 10+ years and yes, they did work hard and did anything to make their customers happy, by selling fresh fruit and deli sandwiches. They had to deal with a scumbag food truck who thought it was ok to just take a parking spot meant for customers and turn it into a copy-cat store, right in front of us. There's proper competition, and there is scumbag competition. He could have easily started his business in a different block or someplace else, instead he chose to exploit a location trying to feed off of the work of a humble family who had nothing else to fall back to. There's no excuse for him to sell somewhere else, at a reasonable distance, but no, he feels he has the right to park right in front of the fking store. Without any laws or regulation, all you get is people getting screwed over (especially with the survival of the fittest mentality where wall street advocates and leads by poor example by cheating and corruption, pushing people to put themselves in debt and financial risk). God bless the 300 feet zoning law for the restaurants in this video, and shame on the vet for not willing to compete at the other number of places he could go to, if he's so stubborn about doing nothing else other than sell another pizza. If the pizza was good, it doesn't matter if that pizzaria is 300 feet away (again it's literally less than quarter of a mile), I'd go there if his pizza was good. This vet just want's a easy way to success at the cost of people who've earned them.
we have no problem with low overhead. this guy aint going to his own spot and opening shop. instead of overhead, he is exploiting locations by sitting right next to direct competitors, with no definitive benefit/innovation but with high cost to innocent workers. he could fascinate about overhead all he wants on his own property rather than being a pussy and feeding off of other's traffic that hardworkers worked to build over many years. @Rayne SG a.k.a. inkyrayne
That is what should determine whether you buy the pizza, not rules that try to prevent you from getting a look at it by forcing the truck onto a quieter street.
Excellent question from Darren Headrick. I lived in Chicago for 30+ years and my city pulled the same bullfeathers on food trucks. They tried to legislate all of them out of existance. The answer to your question is: NO! Unfair? Yes. There can be two pizza restaurants across the street from each other, but no "mobile food truck" is allowed to be anywhere nearby. This is to reduce mobile food truck competition with brick-and-mortar establishments. I am also a veteran. I was in combat, but in a jungle environment. I share his frustration. Is the MD law unfair? ABSOTIVELY and POSILUTELY. I only hope that Joey's business will survive. Good on you, Joey, may you beat the Establishment.
This is not an injustice like many of the ones we have seen. Fells point already has a traffic problem and if everybody with a truck who felt like it could set up a business on the public streets there would not be any access to other businesses or even homes. Yes this law was created to protect brick-and-mortar businesses, but those trucks should be regulated regardless
Kit, these rules are not created to deal with traffic. That's a separate issue. The city has the ability to regulate for traffic, if needed. There is no such surge in food trucks at this time, so as to create the scenario you speak of. Truth is, there can only be so many food trucks, anyway. It just wouldn't be profitable to have endless lines of food trucks on every busy street.
it's not even near even half a mile. it's not excessive. he can sell many other products that may be in more demand, or sell somewhere else. one benefit of competition and capitalism is that when markets get's crowded, people are incentivized to innovate instead of selling a different version of the same thing.
@@medicfriends8163 thats a bad excuse ,let capitalism decide what should or should not been in the market by demand ,u are not even defending capitalism,u defending a unnecessary law that limits freedom .because this is his skill and hobby,people dont normally just get up and change passionate like that.people only have so much time and skill and u cant be good at everything and sell anything. laws like this art not to incentivize innovation, its to stop too many people from jumping the market and selling their goods ,plain and simple . which makes this and many other laws like it authoritarian and anti capitalist .its only helps to further solidify the class system because he cant have his best food forward cuz bigger business is scared of the competition..government and big corporation knows that people love to support local business thats why they put laws in place that hurt small businesses owner, this is nothing new here
If everyone has a pizza shop clearly the market is oversaturated. If that case went as the plaintiff hoped you can easily see 5 times as many Pizza food trucks opening up not just putting the brick-and-mortar businesses out of business but also putting themselves out of business but in the meantime there would be so many food trucks on the street that it would make it terribly inconvenient for the landlords to rent out this spaces to tenants for any reason.. if you want a storefront as opposed to an office upstairs or downstairs it's because you want the foot traffic as well as the drive-by traffic you want people to see you you don't want a big gigantic truck in front of your store blocking View. You also don't want them there monopolizing parking spaces.
I can see both sides here but if you are a brick and mortar business, you pay for the location and have more invested than the food truck guy. Plus, a food truck gets "free rent" in their location of choice by using public right of way. The radius rule makes sense to me.
You mean pay more taxes, pay for more "police" and "fire services" and "schools" and "libraries" and "road maintenance." Get it through your thick skull that taxes pay for services.
As a Brit I don't know how The U.S has become what it is, there seems to be rules and regulations for everything most of them really stupid, good luck to you at least your doing something rather than sitting up your ass and collecting benefits, after fighting for your country they should be helping you Joey
Sorry I have to side with brick and mortar establishments. They have a much bigger investment at stake and they pay property taxes on their businesses. They also support more employees. Maybe there should be a food truck area for those entrepreneurs.
It should be all about fair competition and whose product is the best. How many brick-and-mortar businesses are within 500' of a similar business...PLENTY.
It is extremely difficult for a brick-and-mortar store to relocate oftentimes months and tens of thousands of dollars. However mobile vendors can move their location in minutes to hours. Once a brick-and-mortar store establishes a clientele at a specific location I believe it is patently unfair for a mobile business of the same kind to enter that same general location to siphon off business from the brick-and-mortar business. I believe that 350 foot rule should be 3500 feet. I love food trucks I think they're fantastic but there's no need for them to infringe on restaurant customers right in their front yard. Here in Florida I see many homeowners associations that invite food trucks into the development a few times a week which gives the food trucks a leg up on the restaurants.
If a business already has an established clientele and they're a good business that people like with good food, they're not going to lose all their business just because a food truck happens to be parked nearby. That doesn't make any sense.
I understand both sides... I've been on both sides. Bottom line is that competition is good. The brick & mortar can put a kiosk or walk up window if needed. Leave gov't out!
@@williamstandish2926- Djoogo Balmore Public Screwls? Or you don't actually know the dimensions of an American football field (not Succer) is 300ft or 100yds if you like. 1/3 = 100ft / 33.3yds.
Rent property in the high traffic area and some a hole comes by and parks his truck 300 feet from your store and takes business from you . Yeah thats justice .........
It may be easier to try and change the law to reduce the range to say 200' or better still 150' That would at least open up a huge portion of the map for you and still keep some "competitors" happy
these guys don't care about the feet and wants to sell at closest to their direct competitors as they can. 300 feet is not all that wide at all and he's basically selling pizza at a location where there's pizza stores in every block. If he has any decency, he should sell at his own location and "compete" not cheat. No one's stopping his business but he wants the easy way to success at the direct competitor's expense. Every restaurant owner knows that and that's why this is a common law for food trucks.
Street vendors is the mainstay in Thailand.. you got literally thousands and thousands of vendor carts on the road and stopping from place to place.. mostly they go to the areas where the tourists go, up and down the most busy soi streets where beer joints and restaurants are at.. the point here is, there are no laws which would tell these vendors they can not park outside of any business and sell their goods.. and they do sell about anything which is salable.. If you wanted, you could find two pizza joints within 200 feet of each other and buy the building between them and so long as it was a building and not out of a vehicle. you are great.. because it sounds to me like these pizza places, many are within 300 feet of one another themselves.. how does one pizza place open up within 300 feet of another with a 300 foot rule?? Well the rule is only for those who would sell their products via a mobile store on the street, in a vehicle.. while those businesses pay property tax or whatever.. the street vendor also pays taxes on his vehicle including licenses, and fees, insurance, so its not like they are not paying a fair share any less then those in a building..
It only makes sense to limit where you can sell in a truck. If he where to open a store in a brick and mortar right next door that's a level playing field, I say go for it.
although competition is good to offer alternatives if one business is bad, it is often the case a restaurant will close out sooner than most think if their food is bad. food can only be innovated so much, and a lot of these stores are owned by people like him and have built their businesses from littel to nothing. 300 feet is not that much. there are plenty of other food he can offer if he really needs to open in that specific location and being one of many restaurants. If he really needs to sell the same thing, he can do it in locations that don't offer pizza, instead of looking for an excuse to skip rent and exploiting a business that is highly dependant on location, and pursuing a market that is already oversaturated. Capitalism is beautiful, it encourages people to pursue new things instead of something that already has been done too many times before.
The truck is already at a disadvantage in having limited space to quickly produce, as well as to provide any seating or even just a place to get out of harsh weather while waiting. That levels the playing field by itself. Putting limits on where trucks can go puts them at a disadvantage, rather.
I am currently going through the same thing. With the coronavirus I have been forced to close my Catering Company and Venue and have decided to purchase a food trailer. The city that I live in seemed to be on board with this and offer to parking spots to permanently put my trailer. Unfortunately after neighboring Restaurants got wind of it they have now tabled the offer.. I am fighting to get this resolved because my trailer is on it way in 2 days. I not only have the expense of my brick and mortar business but now a trailer cost. Business can’t restrict who moves in a brick mortar as competition but some reason they can mobile business. Good luck with your fight!
This is crazy to me, I’m from St. Petersburg Florida where there are an abundance of food trucks and even the mayor welcomes and eats at them. The mayor goes on the news to tell people about them. SMH!!!!
From a business point of view, a mobile food truck does not have to pay such high overheads as a static restaurant, so why not just shut up and obey the rules as they are, go park outside big factories or schools or something. No I do not have a shop, I drive a fuel truck.
300 feet limitation is a good law it ensure that all business have a chance to succeed. For once i disagree with this channel. There is a similar law in my country for some type of business that has too much similar shop open nearby
To many rules. Wonder when the Gov will decide which dope dealer gets which corner or hooker. Many cities just have zones where food trucks can sell and where they cannot. I say who ever has the best food for the best price will get the most customers anyway. If the city does not want food trucks in high end areas they normally have off limit areas. Should not make any difference about what kind of restaurant. Dallas has food trucks everywhere as long as they have permit, food licence and health inspection. They do not go into high end areas for those people will snub a food truck anyway. They focus on high foot traffic areas, Clubs, Sports arenas, Fair ground, Bar areas. Cut back on the silly rules and let the best food for the money win. Maybe some of the brick and motor places should have a food truck also. Papa Johns does have both.
he's exploiting parking spots to sell the exact same product, selling food btw that we have plenty of, and skipping rent while taking over small mom and pop shop businesses. if he really wants to be another pizza store, and his pizza is really that good, then he should do it fairly (and legally in plenty of states) by paying rent in his own area. If he was creating an electric car like Tesla where gas was harming the environment and no one else is willing to pursue this, then god speed to him. He's entering a business that fulfill wants, not needs, and he's doing it in a dishonorable way by parking right next to a store that sells the exact same product, in a business that heavily relies on location, and who's no different situation than him who needs the money to pay rent and is not some large corporation, and complaining about it. InstituteforJustice has some good case studies, but this one was rushed and they let their bias get the best of them.
this is a real issue for real families. at least I try to reason and bring points rather than calling people broken records. @Rayne SG a.k.a. inkyrayne
Bo H Hey, get your point...dope dispensaries have already been legitimized in some states. Alcohol as a source of revenue for government has been legalized for quite a while now and you’ll find fine establishments next door to each other selling all sorts of tonics and brews. I guess whoever can grease the most hands will be heard and get the blessings of the city to operate. It ain’t about being fair and balanced....it’s about pockets being filled.🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃👍🏼🥴👍🏼
with the increase cost of brick and mortar land taxes, mobile vendors make more sense... but then many folks didn't think amazon would survive in the beginning either... times are changing and mobile vendors make a huge difference in keeping prices down.
Hmmm 300 feet seems reasonable. I invest in a brick and mortar store, hire people, pay the overhead and some guy rolls up in a truck next to my store and sets up shop. So to me 300 feet sounds reasonable. By the way I inlisted in the Army in 69 so don't gimme any crap on that subject. 😆 On the other hand I am a firm believer in free enterprise. Both sides do have valid points.🤔
Yes. I think it's absolutely Fair. people spend $2,500 a month for rent. You paid $6,000 for a truck. if I had a pizzeria I sure in the hell wouldn't want some scab pulling up trying to steal customers. it's totally fair I'm surprised they didn't make it five hundred feet
I was in the business for almost 45 years and b&m units have their stories too. I also know about the mobiles and understand them. Both have legit concerns in a business environment so demanding and concentrated. There is no fair law possible if you listen to both sides. Both invest lots of money, time and effort. My major beef for both is qualifications. Many counties have eased up on food safety for the individuals that work in them. That's troubling in today's market. I do not eat out much anymore from what I've witnessed lately in all establishments. Improper procedures, cooking and handling can result in death....yes food can sicken people if it's wrong.....you can read about it daily in the USA.
Agreed! I rarely eat out anymore either, I was sickened at a popular eatery a few years ago. I've also noticed these restaurants not making a 100 on their health score which is not hard to do!
So a few issues beyond the aspect that the law doesn't just allow anyone to do whatever they please. He knew from the start what the law was, so if it was so hard to do business in areas that did not have the traffic, then he shouldn't have decided to do so. Plus it is obvious that areas that do have a lot of foot traffic already have a pizza place. Don't throw the vet card as a manipulation tool that the law should thus be changed. How many brick and mortar pizza places also employ vets? Brick and mortar places pay more taxes and support the city, whereas a truck can drive off and go the next town over. A brick and mortar store is more vested in their communities. I say he needs to open up his own brick and mortar store, take the same risks that others have done when they did so, and if his pizza is better than the competition, then he will win out.
Property taxes should be abolished. Problem solved. No one should be paying rent to the government. If you have to cut the government a check to keep your lot of land, it's not really YOUR land now is it?
We have similar situation around my parts, stationary eateries vs mobile ones & it has got ugly at times. While I believe everyone should be able to make a living, we have eateries that's been in operation since before I was a child & I'm 62 now, so, I will admit I am biased toward the loge established ones, but I feel for this guy too & others like him.
Veterans shouldn't get any more special treatment than they already do. Lots of jobs serve the public. Police also put their lives at risk, teachers make major sacrifices for the future of our country...etc. etc. Vets are just like any other group of people, a few good ones and a whole bunch of assholes. Also, brick and mortar stores bring much more to the community than food trucks. They increase the tax base and property values for all, create a sense of stability and community, prevent blight from overtaking neighborhoods, etc. If I can let you do all the work of paying rent, taxes, property improvements and building up a customer base, then just park in front of your store and take all of the reward with none of the risk, then no one will take risks on brick and mortar stores any more. Pretty soon every city and suburb will look like Detroit - blighted and abandoned, and the entire country is just going to consist of warehouses for online businesses and stores on wheels blocking the streets.
Thank you for your service, now get lost. While veterans like myself and hundreds of thousands of others served the country. Politicians at all levels avoided service, and chose graft, corruption and corporate servitude.
So, what if there are two pizza places next door to each other? They apparently don't have to worry about the "other guy"? No proximity rule there. 300 ft. is a bit much.
its not like the food truck will park across the street from a different pizza place, even if he did so what, there is a pizza place down the street, i never go to it cuz its gross
I agree with him. But also understand why the law is in place. How can brick and mortar places who pay high rent compete with Joey when their overhead is much higher?
Part of this I haven't seen anyone address, is the fact that anywhere you can operate a business the property is owned by someone else... meaning you NEVER own it and pay rent until the end of time (taking a large chunk of every business's profits). A food truck is a way to bypass this, and this is a big reason why money is thrown at politicians to pass these laws to begin with. It isn't just the existing businesses trying to prevent competition, it is also very wealthy property owners who are not getting a piece of the pie (see what I did there?)
They are treating a Veteran that way! Who do they think the Veterans fight for? His pizza must be the best. If Texas was not so far away, I would beat a path to his truck to order.If you do not know what that phrase means, it means I would be going so many times back and forth , I would wear a path in the pavement. God Bless you for your service.
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A fine example of a man taking control of his life if and instead of of sitting back and letting things take control he took control of his own life and now is a fine example to others that if you try hard enough put yourself out there and make the effort you can make it in this world yes take your hat off to such men and get out there and make something of their lives and don't sit on the side there are telling everyone else that everyone is to blame for the situation you're in
I have watched many videos today from The Institute of justice and they all seem to be just hand pain point however I think this one is stepping over the line just a little. I think it is a good wall to protect brick-and-mortar businesses from popping up everywhere and too much competition. There are other laws on the books such as you cannot have a strip bar within so many yards of a school and bars and other businesses such as that and nobody seems to complain so I can see both sides of her sort on this but I don't think it's worth going to the mat over. I'm sure this guy's exaggerating when he says there's a pizzeria in these areas he wishes to work. Just find a way that works best for your business and move throughout the bureaucracy. There's too much red tape as there is but there's still plenty of money to be made.
its funny,if u go to more authoritative countries like china,non of these law exist ,people sell what they want anywhere and right next to each other too .i had a apartment and out my widow i saw 2 bars and a elementary school right next to each other .i acutully had to walk pass 2 different bars on one side and a school every morning . people say its so good to protect this business or that but honestly it doesnt even matter .let the free market sort it out
If the mobile pizza was better vs a brick and mortar, then sales would reflect that and he would obviously open his own brick and mortar that was market chosen
Pay the taxes that those storefronts do, or even the rent to sell there. Guys an asshole for trying to push this. Rather you backed the stores fighting this predatory vendor off.
To put this in perspective, 300' is the length of a city block. I love food trucks, but if they can operate within a block of previously established dine-in restaurants who sell the same cuisine, is there not a high probability that the food trucks' lower costs and higher margins will allow them to offer pricing and quality that is just enough to put many dine-in restaurants out of business, especially during COVID when fewer patrons dine in? Is it good or bad to have a bunch of dine-in restaurants in your neighborhood fail just because food trucks with the same cuisine can park right outside their door only during peak hours? I wouldn't want that in my neighborhood, partly because I can't really depend on a food truck's presence during all the hours when I like to eat, and partly because I like to dine in sometimes, either to meet with friends and family or get a break from work or home. I'm guessing that cities that prevent food trucks from operating near a previously established dine-in restaurant with similar cuisine also prevent new dine-in restaurants from opening near a previously established dine-in restaurant with similar cuisine.
First of all thank you for your service.. and I feel for you and all the small businesses that are out there I go to small businesses. It seems like these people are having a hard time and then they put more restrictions on you which doesn't make any sense.. my guess is they don't want you stepping on their feet but then they're making it so hard for you to make a living it's just doesn't add up and it's not right. Is America really FREE????
Person A buys a building, pays his mortgage & property taxes, and here comes a guy in a step van parking at his front door selling the same product for half the price because he doesn't have to pay for a mortgage, property taxes, etc. The man in the van can drive away if things aren't good. The man in the building loses his life savings and investment.
I am a veteran and I can’t get on this guy’s side. Get a brick and mortar yourself like they did. Foot traffic is always going to be an issue when your business is mobile. And why should I, as a brick and mortar competitor have to let you operate out of my parking lot? Bro you picked the wrong city for your business model. Should’ve done your research. The beautiful thing is, you can just go to another city. Problem solved.
I agree, though it's not funny. Soldiers are used as pawns for the super wealthy, while they and the rest of us are sold on "the noble fight". That's how it's always been, long before this country existed, and we've continued the tradition. Sadly, we've probably perfected it.
On December 20, 2017, a Baltimore Circuit Court judge ruled the city’s ban is too vague for the city to enforce. That it was "ambiguous" and "subjective." The judge failed to rule on the Constitutionality (MD State Constitution, that is) of the ordinance. The Institute of Justice is appealing to get that ruling.
There is nothing more vague than the Constitution itself -- heck almost all of the statutes, rules, laws, policies, procedures, and so on are broad and up to interpretation.
@@TruckTaxiMoveIt The constitution is very short and to the point. Unlike all these long convoluted state statutes brought out by elites with buddies that don't want competition.
Shame that in 2020 the circuit appeals court put it back and cemented it in
The TV series _The Wire_ said it best...
"This ain't America. It's Baltimore. Baltimore, Maryland."
lol
There is 1 place worse than Baltimore, MD, and that's the commonwealth of Virginia. Racketeering and unconstitutional laws thrive in that place. It's Hell.
People need to understand that most of the time City Council members are business owners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so if a city council member owns a restaurant for example what do you think they will do to keep competition out?!!!!!!!!!!
Yep!
but they aren't keeping competition out. he is free to compete anywhere else in that area, but he chooses to go into a spot where there are pizzarias selling the exact same product. he's exploiting parking spots to sell the exact same product, selling food btw that we have plenty of, and skipping rent while taking over small mom and pop shop businesses. if he really wants to be another pizza store, and his pizza is really that good, then he should do it fairly (and legally in plenty of states) by paying rent in his own area. If he was creating an electric car like Tesla where gas was harming the environment and no one else is willing to pursue this, then god speed to him. He's entering a business that fulfill wants, not needs, and he's doing it in a dishonorable way by parking right next to a store that sells the exact same product, in a business that heavily relies on location, and who's no different situation than him who needs the money to pay rent and is not some large corporation, and complaining about it. InstituteforJustice has some good case studies, but this one was rushed and they let their bias get the best of them.
There is a difference between buying from a truck vendor than going inside a restaurant and buying there, the restaurant pays rent, city licencing etc. but so it has more advantages over the truck vendor, the truck vendor is just temporary vendor, should the truck vendor park just by the restaurant? no I don't think so, neither is any other truck or any vehicle that interfere with the proper functioning of the business by blocking it or now allowing people to walk by easily, but that's no the problem, the problem is that these truck vendors are no allowed usually within 100-900 Ft from the restaurant that sells the same food, that is crony capitalism, if the truck would want to park close to a park a few blocks away he can't because is too close to the restaurant, this is what is wrong, is about keeping competition out, not about what is fair!!!! city council members will often reject new restaurants because guess what? they own their own restaurant.!!!! and want them out, whether they sell from a truck or restaurant!!! THAT'S WHAT WE CALL CRONY CAPITALISM!!!!!!
I see plenty of trucks finding business in locations outside the zones. Whether it be in hospitals, college campuses, or corporate parking lots. Usually these require permissions from nearby establishments and that is how it should be as it's so easy for trucks to cook food wherever they want, even if it is unwanted by non-restaurant owners. You can speculate all you want about corruption, and to say ALL of the politicians regulating this laws is corrupt is full of baloney, but the truth is, *they are overcrowding an already oversaturated market and instead of producing they are just replacing hard workers. This is more about distributing LIMTED wealth rather than creating it for example, and what is not what capitalism is about. It will destroy businesses UNNECESSARILY and like someone here suggested ridiculously, we have to all become food trucks now if there is no regulation.*
like all of them. create permits and licenses to keep you out. that's any business.
Retired Army. If I'm in Baltimore, I'll look you up, shake your hand and buy a pizza. Best Wishes brother!
Exactly!
Many thanks to the IJ for helping out a fellow bubblehead.
Love it man. As a fellow veteran, I absolutely love your goal and dream. Hopefully someday I can try a slice.
if a guy in a truck kills your business, your business wasnt viable to begin with.
that would be fair if he was paying the same rent other stores were, but that's not the case. he's not going against a corporation but the same mom and pop stores that worked hard for that spot with little to nothing. Although it doesn't mean every customer will dilute out, it will eventually hurt sales enough to put them at risk.
I say go do something other than creating the same commodity while ruining small business owners, if location is that important to your business. He could start somewhere else and sell his pizza if his pizza is so good. If the business owner is doing a bad job, they will eventually not be able to pay rent, so it's not always because other stores are not good, but location is a huge factor for customers. My parents fed me with the hard work they put into their convenient store, but some people feel they can just come in without paying rent and compete right next to us selling the exact same convenient goods. Location matters to us and we sell the same shit they do, but they decided to park next to our store and steal customers. That's why they have these rules, unfortunately, it isn't law in our county. Parents did a good job and have loyal customers, but it ended up hurting our sales eventually since people could care less for commodity products, and there really is no reason for these guys to come into our area other than greed. They are not innovating. They are not doing anything different. They are selling the exact same shit trying to replace us without any of the work we put in, and benefiting from the marketing we put in with the location of our store and relationship with some of our loyal customers. Luckly there was a loophole and the whole area had parking zones with limited time, and most of it was meant for employees and guests, so the police did eventually take care of them with tickets.
I'm all for competing if it's an industry where innovation is crucial. But a convenient store owned by a less privilige family who absolutely depend on the store, we ultimately sell commodities and although we innovate as much as we can by offering goods that other stores don't, location is a key factor for any brick and motar, and to have someone sell things in front of it, truck or in person, is a greedy ass move and people don't realize it. Imagine if you opened up a pizza restaurant, and a guy decides to stand in front of your door and sell pizza.
If a store is corrupt or is absolutely doing a shit ass job, wait till it fails, because it will and many small stores do if they suck at what they do, and then pay the rent and lease the location. Don't come walking in front of my store or park a truck next to it and start selling the exact same shit. It's selfish and your ruining families income who built success with little to no opportunities. My parents are 1st gen immigrants who came from a more difficult country with little education offered there, and they used pure hard work to biuld there customer base to what it is today. Fuck these vendors who decide to park right next to stores that sell the same shit they do. This video is poorly thought out.
I agree . They don't want to compete . Easier to pay bribes .
what bribes? he's exploiting parking spots to sell the exact same product, selling food btw that we have plenty of, and skipping rent while taking over small mom and pop shop businesses. if he really wants to be another pizza store, and his pizza is really that good, then he should do it fairly (and legally in plenty of states) by paying rent in his own area. If he was creating an electric car like Tesla where gas was harming the environment and no one else is willing to pursue this, then god speed to him. He's entering a business that fulfill wants, not needs, and he's doing it in a dishonorable way by parking right next to a store that sells the exact same product, in a business that heavily relies on location, and who's no different situation than him who needs the money to pay rent and is not some large corporation, and complaining about it. InstituteforJustice has some good case studies, but this one was rushed and they let their bias get the best of them.
@@medicfriends8163 ,stand corrected, no police or council persons never ever take bribes
what does police or council have to do with this. it's a fking common law for foodtrucks being penalized for sitting in front of a store selling the exact same shit.
I used to own a food cart, but while I empathize with his situation, I disagree with his argument. The owners of brick and mortar restaurants have much more capital and risk tied up in their properties and they pay a premium for a good location. Food trucks such as Joey's are simply poaching on those more expensive areas. If Joey was being fair, he might band with other like minded owners of food trucks/carts and develop an area for their exclusive use. In Portland, Oregon food carts band together on undeveloped land, install bathroom facilities, lighted dining areas and often bring in utilities. These areas are called 'pods' they provide a range of offerings to satisfy the customers.
Yes, I agree, brick and morter has to be protected. I really like that spiral looking pizza. I would drive across town to try Joey's pizza. Joey can set up shop anywhere else. Brick and mortar are stuck where they are. You already know that you have imagination. Try using it instead of banging your head on a brick and mortar wall (and save money on lawyers).
Fuck off commie, its called capitalism why should he be punished for having a better business?
@@johngritjohngrit140 so you are anti small business? Its called capitalism, dont like it move to Cuba
@@johngritjohngrit140 why cant Joey make a better product? You made no real reason to use government violence to protect a business, to which no business should be protected from market forces
"Beat it, kid- this is MY fishing hole" Sounds like racketeering to me.
Apparently they are inundated with restaurants in the area that he wants to be which means that even though they want him to be no less than 350 feet away by the graphics that they put in the video the 350 ft are overlapping each other I'm at the point in which they no longer overlap the food truck vendor doesn't want to be there
Clearly the market Target location is oversaturated they don't need a food truck the food truck will only be taking business away from the other businesses that are already there there's your competition now if you want to bring a food truck there and you want to put them on the street that's going to take parking away from the people who are trying to patronize the restaurant or the other shops that are in the area
@@TruckTaxiMoveIt you can't be that good of a restaurant if someone in a small truck can do it better
@@TruckTaxiMoveIt Thanks for commenting. Finally, someone who is using logic.
@@spongmongler6760 My brother is a chef and owned a mobile food business. If you look at restaurant saturation in a neighborhood, and then at the relative costs and margins of food trucks vs. dine-in restaurants, you'll see why these ordinances make sense.
@@ritcheymt stop with the sarky bs. your argument is "go look it up, my supposed brother which supposedly exists means you're an idiot"
man up
So does that mean that if one of those pizza restaurants are within 300 feet of each other they're violating the laws as well?
Ha ha good one.
Funny.....but only deals with mobile businesses.
mrbear1302, right? How convenient for the other businesses.
No, because it's an establishment not a truck vendor
other shops are paying property taxes, this guy isn't
This law goes against capitalism, competition and everything a free country should stand for. It really is pathetic.
he's exploiting parking spots to sell the exact same product, selling food btw that we have plenty of, and skipping rent while taking over small mom and pop shop businesses. if he really wants to be another pizza store, and his pizza is really that good, then he should do it fairly (and legally in plenty of states) by paying rent in his own area. If he was creating an electric car like Tesla where gas was harming the environment and no one else is willing to pursue this, then god speed to him. He's entering a business that fulfill wants, not needs, and he's doing it in a dishonorable way by parking right next to a store that sells the exact same product, in a business that heavily relies on location, and who's no different situation than him who needs the money to pay rent and is not some large corporation, and complaining about it. InstituteforJustice has some good case studies, but this one was rushed and they let their bias get the best of them.
hey if a food truck parks next door to ur restaurant and sells food that is better then who is to say its wrong? And why do people have to pay rent in your eyes to be good business owner? Are you a landlord?
it's not always the case the food is better. often they sell the same product and the consumer base saturates. again, it's a commodity product and heavily relies on location for convenience needed by customers. you pay rent to work hard for the location one put sweat and tears for, and again, if the food is bad, they won't make rent. Having an oversupply of trucks that jump around from one location to another, last thing someone needs is 10 pizza trucks parked in a spot diluting the customer base, selling a commodity with little to no innovation, having stores come and go. It's a bully tatic no different that what corporations do to small business owners. If he wants to sell pizza so much, he can do so in less than a quarter mile away from the store. It's like building a home where you brought the traffic in and having someone advertise in your home as a competitor. It's cheating, and some people think that is what capitalism is about, greed, but it's not.
Medic Friends they pay the same taxes as a mom and pop shop. there been restaurants next to other restaurants. They are just cutting competition when the restaurant business is a competieve industry . they the people decide where to eat not the restaurants , dont try to limit people choices ok people dont like that
you forget the problem is the fact that these trucks park way too close to directly competing for restaurants that sell the exact same thing. they are free to compete at a reasonable distance. 300 feet is a lot smaller than people realize. paying taxes doesn't exempt you from playing dirty in business. this law exist for a reason, and it's ironic that InstituteForJustice is supposed to back those who work hard and are small businesses, which are the exact people these food trucks are griefing by refusing to sell at their own location, and instead placing themselves in an already crowded, oversaturated area that these restaurants themselves helped build at least in terms of traffic. Go make your own, don't leech off of other's hard work. they are not limiting choices, as they are selling the exact same thing. this guy claims his pizza is so good, he should have no problem selling just 300 feet away, or find a different spot that doesn't sell pizza. people will naturally just do what's best for them, but won't realize that as they divide out their business into food trucks, these restaurants will have to close their doors because these trucks refuse to do business just 300 feet elsewhere. Restaurants that suck will not make rent, as I have stated it is not easy to make rent. Higher traffic usually equal higher rent. Telling restaurant owners to give up their investment and go open a more high maintenance food truck (just because it's cheaper does not make it better for the long run) JUST BECAUSE these food trucks don't want to compete the right way by not selling directly next to the fking competition, then it is fine.
Holy Jumpin' Jesus Christ! The _real_ Navy is behind you, brother!
Anchors away shipmates
he's exploiting parking spots to sell the exact same product, selling food btw that we have plenty of, and skipping rent while taking over small mom and pop shop businesses. if he really wants to be another pizza store, and his pizza is really that good, then he should do it fairly (and legally in plenty of states) by paying rent in his own area. If he was creating an electric car like Tesla where gas was harming the environment and no one else is willing to pursue this, then god speed to him. He's entering a business that fulfill wants, not needs, and he's doing it in a dishonorable way by parking right next to a store that sells the exact same product, in a business that heavily relies on location, and who's no different situation than him who needs the money to pay rent and is not some large corporation, and complaining about it. InstituteforJustice has some good case studies, but this one was rushed and they let their bias get the best of them.
@@medicfriends8163 lol "honor" you dont become wealthy with your notion of "honor" you get their by slitting the throat of your competition, and why should he pay rent and all of these other expenses when there is a cheaper option at his disposal? Hard work does not get you anywhere. Smart work is what gets you places
capitalism isn't about going into a saturated market and slitting your opponent's throat by cheating and corruption, like what many in wall street think. Capitalism is about innovating and creating new markets thus making progress for society. Having a bunch of people become pizzarias on a truck and "slitting people's throat" isn't getting us anything other than a different tasting pizza. What you're proposing is to destroy all restaurant owners and having them transition into trucks that have plenty of problems of its own. Those who claim absolute free anything (free from controL) are foolish and our objective is to make better, more efficient laws, not completely let everything lose and let some sort of mafia resort to violence to "slit the throat of your competition." by the way, these so called restaurant owners aren't your usual wall street businessmen who can move onto other ventures easily with their 6 figure paycheck. Usually when you compete against restaurant owners, you're going against people who have little to nothing to fall back to, at the cost of little to no innovation. If their restaurant is bad, I can gaurantee you, they will not make rent. Coming from a first-gen immigrant who's parent's owned a convenient store for 10+ years and yes, they did work hard and did anything to make their customers happy, by selling fresh fruit and deli sandwiches. They had to deal with a scumbag food truck who thought it was ok to just take a parking spot meant for customers and turn it into a copy-cat store, right in front of us. There's proper competition, and there is scumbag competition. He could have easily started his business in a different block or someplace else, instead he chose to exploit a location trying to feed off of the work of a humble family who had nothing else to fall back to. There's no excuse for him to sell somewhere else, at a reasonable distance, but no, he feels he has the right to park right in front of the fking store. Without any laws or regulation, all you get is people getting screwed over (especially with the survival of the fittest mentality where wall street advocates and leads by poor example by cheating and corruption, pushing people to put themselves in debt and financial risk). God bless the 300 feet zoning law for the restaurants in this video, and shame on the vet for not willing to compete at the other number of places he could go to, if he's so stubborn about doing nothing else other than sell another pizza. If the pizza was good, it doesn't matter if that pizzaria is 300 feet away (again it's literally less than quarter of a mile), I'd go there if his pizza was good. This vet just want's a easy way to success at the cost of people who've earned them.
we have no problem with low overhead. this guy aint going to his own spot and opening shop. instead of overhead, he is exploiting locations by sitting right next to direct competitors, with no definitive benefit/innovation but with high cost to innocent workers. he could fascinate about overhead all he wants on his own property rather than being a pussy and feeding off of other's traffic that hardworkers worked to build over many years. @Rayne SG a.k.a. inkyrayne
Think of this guy every single time you hear a politician preach about how free this country is.
Amen.
Especially when some idiot like @Medic Friends steps in it deep and no matter what he says he can't get the stain of large corporations off his shoe!
Lot of gray here, I love when an out of town truck pulls in front of a brick and mortar business on the busiest days.
Man that pizza looks good.
That is what should determine whether you buy the pizza, not rules that try to prevent you from getting a look at it by forcing the truck onto a quieter street.
Excellent question from Darren Headrick. I lived in Chicago for 30+ years and my city pulled the same bullfeathers on food trucks. They tried to legislate all of them out of existance. The answer to your question is: NO! Unfair? Yes. There can be two pizza restaurants across the street from each other, but no "mobile food truck" is allowed to be anywhere nearby. This is to reduce mobile food truck competition with brick-and-mortar establishments. I am also a veteran. I was in combat, but in a jungle environment. I share his frustration. Is the MD law unfair? ABSOTIVELY and POSILUTELY. I only hope that Joey's business will survive. Good on you, Joey, may you beat the Establishment.
This is not an injustice like many of the ones we have seen. Fells point already has a traffic problem and if everybody with a truck who felt like it could set up a business on the public streets there would not be any access to other businesses or even homes. Yes this law was created to protect brick-and-mortar businesses, but those trucks should be regulated regardless
Kit, these rules are not created to deal with traffic. That's a separate issue. The city has the ability to regulate for traffic, if needed. There is no such surge in food trucks at this time, so as to create the scenario you speak of. Truth is, there can only be so many food trucks, anyway. It just wouldn't be profitable to have endless lines of food trucks on every busy street.
The 300 foot rule is excessive especially when everyone has a pizza shop.
it's not even near even half a mile. it's not excessive. he can sell many other products that may be in more demand, or sell somewhere else. one benefit of competition and capitalism is that when markets get's crowded, people are incentivized to innovate instead of selling a different version of the same thing.
@@medicfriends8163 Yes it is. You have to find a place to park and every parking spot is gonna be at least within 300 ft of a place that sells pizza.
@@medicfriends8163 thats a bad excuse ,let capitalism decide what should or should not been in the market by demand ,u are not even defending capitalism,u defending a unnecessary law that limits freedom .because this is his skill and hobby,people dont normally just get up and change passionate like that.people only have so much time and skill and u cant be good at everything and sell anything. laws like this art not to incentivize innovation, its to stop too many people from jumping the market and selling their goods ,plain and simple . which makes this and many other laws like it authoritarian and anti capitalist .its only helps to further solidify the class system because he cant have his best food forward cuz bigger business is scared of the competition..government and big corporation knows that people love to support local business thats why they put laws in place that hurt small businesses owner, this is nothing new here
If everyone has a pizza shop clearly the market is oversaturated.
If that case went as the plaintiff hoped you can easily see 5 times as many Pizza food trucks opening up not just putting the brick-and-mortar businesses out of business but also putting themselves out of business but in the meantime there would be so many food trucks on the street that it would make it terribly inconvenient for the landlords to rent out this spaces to tenants for any reason.. if you want a storefront as opposed to an office upstairs or downstairs it's because you want the foot traffic as well as the drive-by traffic you want people to see you you don't want a big gigantic truck in front of your store blocking View.
You also don't want them there monopolizing parking spaces.
Three hundred feet is a dang city block, man.
I can see both sides here but if you are a brick and mortar business, you pay for the location and have more invested than the food truck guy. Plus, a food truck gets "free rent" in their location of choice by using public right of way. The radius rule makes sense to me.
The business pay more taxes , grease more " public servants " palms .
You mean pay more taxes, pay for more "police" and "fire services" and "schools" and "libraries" and "road maintenance." Get it through your thick skull that taxes pay for services.
damn! That pizza looks good! Yum!
My great grandmothers name was Zelda. I'm glad to see another person with that name.
Haha
thats like saying you cant have a racetrack gas station or a mic donalds near there respective counter parts
Very underrated channel!
This is discriminations and does not allow free trade and competitions! Better pizza should be the result!
This has nothing to do with you being a veteran. It does have to do with the lame laws that the city has in place. I hope you change those laws.
“Our recipes are all our own”
I’m pretty sure you didn’t come up with the pepperoni pizza
As a Brit I don't know how The U.S has become what it is, there seems to be rules and regulations for everything most of them really stupid, good luck to you at least your doing something rather than sitting up your ass and collecting benefits, after fighting for your country they should be helping you Joey
I love roach coaches! 😋 Treating anyone like this is unconstitutional, treating a veteran like this is a slap in the face! 😡
Roach coach is approaching the pier.
1980's That brings back so many fun times in the U.S. Navy
Sorry I have to side with brick and mortar establishments. They have a much bigger investment at stake and they pay property taxes on their businesses. They also support more employees. Maybe there should be a food truck area for those entrepreneurs.
What you are saying is that GOVERNMENT would lose out if the trucks eded up closing a brick and mortar business.
Too bad.
300' is good.
Unless as a B&M you don't pay property tax on a restaurant, and all the local license,fees, etc... B&M need some protection.
So can Amazon sell you things if a local business sells them within 300 feet?
It should be all about fair competition and whose product is the best. How many brick-and-mortar businesses are within 500' of a similar business...PLENTY.
May God bless you and your family, thank you for your service
Awesome, IJ!
It is extremely difficult for a brick-and-mortar store to relocate oftentimes months and tens of thousands of dollars. However mobile vendors can move their location in minutes to hours.
Once a brick-and-mortar store establishes a clientele at a specific location I believe it is patently unfair for a mobile business of the same kind to enter that same general location to siphon off business from the brick-and-mortar business.
I believe that 350 foot rule should be 3500 feet.
I love food trucks I think they're fantastic but there's no need for them to infringe on restaurant customers right in their front yard.
Here in Florida I see many homeowners associations that invite food trucks into the development a few times a week which gives the food trucks a leg up on the restaurants.
If a business already has an established clientele and they're a good business that people like with good food, they're not going to lose all their business just because a food truck happens to be parked nearby. That doesn't make any sense.
Good luck Brother.
I understand both sides...
I've been on both sides. Bottom line is that competition is good. The brick & mortar can put a kiosk or walk up window if needed. Leave gov't out!
@@DorkVader26 If its a private lot, they already don't have to let the food truck be there. And that's not what this guy is suing about.
Hopefully, enough people don’t mind walking a football field away to get the pizza they want.
I know I wouldn’t mind it.
1/3 a football field. 300 feet, not yards.
@@williamstandish2926- Djoogo Balmore Public Screwls? Or you don't actually know the dimensions of an American football field (not Succer) is 300ft or 100yds if you like. 1/3 = 100ft / 33.3yds.
Chicago has the same stupid law.
Rent property in the high traffic area and some a hole comes by and parks his truck 300 feet from your store and takes business from you . Yeah thats justice .........
It may be easier to try and change the law to reduce the range to say 200' or better still 150'
That would at least open up a huge portion of the map for you and still keep some "competitors" happy
these guys don't care about the feet and wants to sell at closest to their direct competitors as they can. 300 feet is not all that wide at all and he's basically selling pizza at a location where there's pizza stores in every block. If he has any decency, he should sell at his own location and "compete" not cheat. No one's stopping his business but he wants the easy way to success at the direct competitor's expense. Every restaurant owner knows that and that's why this is a common law for food trucks.
@@medicfriends8163 how the fuck is he cheating? the brick stores are cheating cuz they cant compete so they beg for a law
Street vendors is the mainstay in Thailand.. you got literally thousands and thousands of vendor carts on the road and stopping from place to place.. mostly they go to the areas where the tourists go, up and down the most busy soi streets where beer joints and restaurants are at.. the point here is, there are no laws which would tell these vendors they can not park outside of any business and sell their goods.. and they do sell about anything which is salable.. If you wanted, you could find two pizza joints within 200 feet of each other and buy the building between them and so long as it was a building and not out of a vehicle. you are great.. because it sounds to me like these pizza places, many are within 300 feet of one another themselves.. how does one pizza place open up within 300 feet of another with a 300 foot rule?? Well the rule is only for those who would sell their products via a mobile store on the street, in a vehicle.. while those businesses pay property tax or whatever.. the street vendor also pays taxes on his vehicle including licenses, and fees, insurance, so its not like they are not paying a fair share any less then those in a building..
It only makes sense to limit where you can sell in a truck. If he where to open a store in a brick and mortar right next door that's a level playing field, I say go for it.
although competition is good to offer alternatives if one business is bad, it is often the case a restaurant will close out sooner than most think if their food is bad. food can only be innovated so much, and a lot of these stores are owned by people like him and have built their businesses from littel to nothing. 300 feet is not that much. there are plenty of other food he can offer if he really needs to open in that specific location and being one of many restaurants. If he really needs to sell the same thing, he can do it in locations that don't offer pizza, instead of looking for an excuse to skip rent and exploiting a business that is highly dependant on location, and pursuing a market that is already oversaturated. Capitalism is beautiful, it encourages people to pursue new things instead of something that already has been done too many times before.
The truck is already at a disadvantage in having limited space to quickly produce, as well as to provide any seating or even just a place to get out of harsh weather while waiting. That levels the playing field by itself. Putting limits on where trucks can go puts them at a disadvantage, rather.
I am currently going through the same thing. With the coronavirus I have been forced to close my Catering Company and Venue and have decided to purchase a food trailer. The city that I live in seemed to be on board with this and offer to parking spots to permanently put my trailer. Unfortunately after neighboring Restaurants got wind of it they have now tabled the offer.. I am fighting to get this resolved because my trailer is on it way in 2 days. I not only have the expense of my brick and mortar business but now a trailer cost. Business can’t restrict who moves in a brick mortar as competition but some reason they can mobile business. Good luck with your fight!
This is crazy to me, I’m from St. Petersburg Florida where there are an abundance of food trucks and even the mayor welcomes and eats at them. The mayor goes on the news to tell people about them. SMH!!!!
From a business point of view, a mobile food truck does not have to pay such high overheads as a static restaurant, so why not just shut up and obey the rules as they are, go park outside big factories or schools or something. No I do not have a shop, I drive a fuel truck.
300 feet limitation is a good law it ensure that all business have a chance to succeed. For once i disagree with this channel. There is a similar law in my country for some type of business that has too much similar shop open nearby
To many rules. Wonder when the Gov will decide which dope dealer gets which corner or hooker. Many cities just have zones where food trucks can sell and where they cannot. I say who ever has the best food for the best price will get the most customers anyway. If the city does not want food trucks in high end areas they normally have off limit areas. Should not make any difference about what kind of restaurant. Dallas has food trucks everywhere as long as they have permit, food licence and health inspection. They do not go into high end areas for those people will snub a food truck anyway. They focus on high foot traffic areas, Clubs, Sports arenas, Fair ground, Bar areas. Cut back on the silly rules and let the best food for the money win. Maybe some of the brick and motor places should have a food truck also. Papa Johns does have both.
he's exploiting parking spots to sell the exact same product, selling food btw that we have plenty of, and skipping rent while taking over small mom and pop shop businesses. if he really wants to be another pizza store, and his pizza is really that good, then he should do it fairly (and legally in plenty of states) by paying rent in his own area. If he was creating an electric car like Tesla where gas was harming the environment and no one else is willing to pursue this, then god speed to him. He's entering a business that fulfill wants, not needs, and he's doing it in a dishonorable way by parking right next to a store that sells the exact same product, in a business that heavily relies on location, and who's no different situation than him who needs the money to pay rent and is not some large corporation, and complaining about it. InstituteforJustice has some good case studies, but this one was rushed and they let their bias get the best of them.
this is a real issue for real families. at least I try to reason and bring points rather than calling people broken records. @Rayne SG a.k.a. inkyrayne
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Hey, get your point...dope dispensaries have already been legitimized in some states. Alcohol as a source of revenue for government has been legalized for quite a while now and you’ll find fine establishments next door to each other selling all sorts of tonics and brews. I guess whoever can grease the most hands will be heard and get the blessings of the city to operate. It ain’t about being fair and balanced....it’s about pockets being filled.🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃👍🏼🥴👍🏼
with the increase cost of brick and mortar land taxes, mobile vendors make more sense... but then many folks didn't think amazon would survive in the beginning either... times are changing and mobile vendors make a huge difference in keeping prices down.
DOnt need a permit to make a living..... Its found in the declaration of independence
That pizza looks *amazing* !
A high end roach coach. A good spin on an old idea
Jensen & 99, Fresno, Ca. has several restaurants with similar menus. A food truck is a restaurant on wheels.
I4J is a true American Hero!!!
So two pizza brick n mortar places can be right next to each other but a mobile pizza place can't be near any of them, yea makes a lot of sense
Well. So much for "Thank you for your service." Just empty, meaningless words.
Hmmm 300 feet seems reasonable. I invest in a brick and mortar store, hire people, pay the overhead and some guy rolls up in a truck next to my store and sets up shop. So to me 300 feet sounds reasonable. By the way I inlisted in the Army in 69 so don't gimme any crap on that subject. 😆 On the other hand I am a firm believer in free enterprise. Both sides do have valid points.🤔
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Yes. I think it's absolutely Fair. people spend $2,500 a month for rent. You paid $6,000 for a truck. if I had a pizzeria I sure in the hell wouldn't want some scab pulling up trying to steal customers. it's totally fair I'm surprised they didn't make it five hundred feet
they have this think called "punctuation". you really should check into it. nobody has a clue what you are saying.
I was in the business for almost 45 years and b&m units have their stories too. I also know about the mobiles and understand them. Both have legit concerns in a business environment so demanding and concentrated. There is no fair law possible if you listen to both sides. Both invest lots of money, time and effort.
My major beef for both is qualifications. Many counties have eased up on food safety for the individuals that work in them. That's troubling in today's market. I do not eat out much anymore from what I've witnessed lately in all establishments. Improper procedures, cooking and handling can result in death....yes food can sicken people if it's wrong.....you can read about it daily in the USA.
Agreed! I rarely eat out anymore either, I was sickened at a popular eatery a few years ago. I've also noticed these restaurants not making a 100 on their health score which is not hard to do!
So a few issues beyond the aspect that the law doesn't just allow anyone to do whatever they please. He knew from the start what the law was, so if it was so hard to do business in areas that did not have the traffic, then he shouldn't have decided to do so. Plus it is obvious that areas that do have a lot of foot traffic already have a pizza place. Don't throw the vet card as a manipulation tool that the law should thus be changed. How many brick and mortar pizza places also employ vets? Brick and mortar places pay more taxes and support the city, whereas a truck can drive off and go the next town over. A brick and mortar store is more vested in their communities. I say he needs to open up his own brick and mortar store, take the same risks that others have done when they did so, and if his pizza is better than the competition, then he will win out.
Good luck and GOD bless you sir, on your road to winning the lawsuit.
P.S. I'll have a pepperoni pizza with extra cheese, thanks.
Go get them !
Its because you dont pay property taxes
Property taxes should be abolished. Problem solved. No one should be paying rent to the government. If you have to cut the government a check to keep your lot of land, it's not really YOUR land now is it?
We have similar situation around my parts, stationary eateries vs mobile ones & it has got ugly at times. While I believe everyone should be able to make a living, we have eateries that's been in operation since before I was a child & I'm 62 now, so, I will admit I am biased toward the loge established ones, but I feel for this guy too & others like him.
Veterans shouldn't get any more special treatment than they already do. Lots of jobs serve the public. Police also put their lives at risk, teachers make major sacrifices for the future of our country...etc. etc. Vets are just like any other group of people, a few good ones and a whole bunch of assholes.
Also, brick and mortar stores bring much more to the community than food trucks. They increase the tax base and property values for all, create a sense of stability and community, prevent blight from overtaking neighborhoods, etc.
If I can let you do all the work of paying rent, taxes, property improvements and building up a customer base, then just park in front of your store and take all of the reward with none of the risk, then no one will take risks on brick and mortar stores any more. Pretty soon every city and suburb will look like Detroit - blighted and abandoned, and the entire country is just going to consist of warehouses for online businesses and stores on wheels blocking the streets.
Brick oven pizza?
Not gonna lie that pizza he makes is delicious ASF I'd buy from them anytime
Thank you for your service, now get lost. While veterans like myself and hundreds of thousands of others served the country. Politicians at all levels avoided service, and chose graft, corruption and corporate servitude.
come to nova...we need options
So, what if there are two pizza places next door to each other? They apparently don't have to worry about the "other guy"? No proximity rule there. 300 ft. is a bit much.
its not like the food truck will park across the street from a different pizza place, even if he did so what, there is a pizza place down the street, i never go to it cuz its gross
Update?
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I agree with him. But also understand why the law is in place. How can brick and mortar places who pay high rent compete with Joey when their overhead is much higher?
So if I have an RV parked next to a brick and mortar pizza place and cook a pizza am I in violation?
Part of this I haven't seen anyone address, is the fact that anywhere you can operate a business the property is owned by someone else... meaning you NEVER own it and pay rent until the end of time (taking a large chunk of every business's profits). A food truck is a way to bypass this, and this is a big reason why money is thrown at politicians to pass these laws to begin with. It isn't just the existing businesses trying to prevent competition, it is also very wealthy property owners who are not getting a piece of the pie (see what I did there?)
They are treating a Veteran that way! Who do they think the Veterans fight for? His pizza must be the best. If Texas was not so far away, I would beat a path to his truck to order.If you do not know what that phrase means, it means I would be going so many times back and forth , I would wear a path in the pavement. God Bless you for your service.
A fine example of a man taking control of his life if and instead of of sitting back and letting things take control he took control of his own life and now is a fine example to others that if you try hard enough put yourself out there and make the effort you can make it in this world yes take your hat off to such men and get out there and make something of their lives and don't sit on the side there are telling everyone else that everyone is to blame for the situation you're in
I have watched many videos today from The Institute of justice and they all seem to be just hand pain point however I think this one is stepping over the line just a little. I think it is a good wall to protect brick-and-mortar businesses from popping up everywhere and too much competition. There are other laws on the books such as you cannot have a strip bar within so many yards of a school and bars and other businesses such as that and nobody seems to complain so I can see both sides of her sort on this but I don't think it's worth going to the mat over. I'm sure this guy's exaggerating when he says there's a pizzeria in these areas he wishes to work. Just find a way that works best for your business and move throughout the bureaucracy. There's too much red tape as there is but there's still plenty of money to be made.
its funny,if u go to more authoritative countries like china,non of these law exist ,people sell what they want anywhere and right next to each other too .i had a apartment and out my widow i saw 2 bars and a elementary school right next to each other .i acutully had to walk pass 2 different bars on one side and a school every morning . people say its so good to protect this business or that but honestly it doesnt even matter .let the free market sort it out
just watching i want his pizza yumm
Whoever makes these stupid laws needs be put in a diseased prison for the rest of their lives.
GO FOR IT. BROTHA
Those pizzas looks good
If the mobile pizza was better vs a brick and mortar, then sales would reflect that and he would obviously open his own brick and mortar that was market chosen
Go Joey!
So a clothing store at the mall can't be within 300ft of another clothing store at the mall---ha-ha-ha
Pay the taxes that those storefronts do, or even the rent to sell there. Guys an asshole for trying to push this. Rather you backed the stores fighting this predatory vendor off.
To put this in perspective, 300' is the length of a city block. I love food trucks, but if they can operate within a block of previously established dine-in restaurants who sell the same cuisine, is there not a high probability that the food trucks' lower costs and higher margins will allow them to offer pricing and quality that is just enough to put many dine-in restaurants out of business, especially during COVID when fewer patrons dine in? Is it good or bad to have a bunch of dine-in restaurants in your neighborhood fail just because food trucks with the same cuisine can park right outside their door only during peak hours? I wouldn't want that in my neighborhood, partly because I can't really depend on a food truck's presence during all the hours when I like to eat, and partly because I like to dine in sometimes, either to meet with friends and family or get a break from work or home. I'm guessing that cities that prevent food trucks from operating near a previously established dine-in restaurant with similar cuisine also prevent new dine-in restaurants from opening near a previously established dine-in restaurant with similar cuisine.
Dude a food truck is not going to put restaurants out of business...most people going out will still want a place with a table to sit down and eat.
How much property tax do you pay?
The 300' rule was in place when you decided to start the truck business.
No, it wasn't. The 300 foot ordinance was enacted in 2014.
that is what you get for serving your country
First of all thank you for your service.. and I feel for you and all the small businesses that are out there I go to small businesses. It seems like these people are having a hard time and then they put more restrictions on you which doesn't make any sense.. my guess is they don't want you stepping on their feet but then they're making it so hard for you to make a living it's just doesn't add up and it's not right. Is America really FREE????
Pizzas look too damn pale. That should be another rule he has to follow-cook the pizza a little longer
I hope you win.
Person A buys a building, pays his mortgage & property taxes, and here comes a guy in a step van parking at his front door selling the same product for half the price because he doesn't have to pay for a mortgage, property taxes, etc. The man in the van can drive away if things aren't good. The man in the building loses his life savings and investment.
You knew the rules when you went into business. "This is for veterans" doesnt give you a special privilege.
Rules still have to legal.
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I am a veteran and I can’t get on this guy’s side. Get a brick and mortar yourself like they did. Foot traffic is always going to be an issue when your business is mobile. And why should I, as a brick and mortar competitor have to let you operate out of my parking lot? Bro you picked the wrong city for your business model. Should’ve done your research. The beautiful thing is, you can just go to another city. Problem solved.
He doesn't want to park in their parking lots, he never once said that. You've created a strawman.
So what happened to the 3 foot rule of crooked and sleazy politicians in the same country rule.
LOL welcome home. I would suggest not fighting for a corrupt government in the future.
@@MJ-nd7cj LOL... I don't need anyone to fight for me. I will stay right here and protect my own property from the government.
I agree, though it's not funny. Soldiers are used as pawns for the super wealthy, while they and the rest of us are sold on "the noble fight". That's how it's always been, long before this country existed, and we've continued the tradition. Sadly, we've probably perfected it.
@@orionsghost9511 TRUTH.
Baltimore? ROFL,
Good thing the Colts Football team slipped out of town after the sun went down!