Massive Vise Restoration! Broken 120lb 6” Chas Parker!
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2022
- In this restoration video I take a cracked 120lb Chas parker vise back into service! The cracked tail was making this vise totally unusable and after some rust removal and welding its good as new! I enjoyed experimenting with this Nickel welding rod and im looking froward to learning more about that process on other projects!
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The one thing that you could have done is drill a hole at the end of the crack before starting the welding. That ensures it won't propagate further when you start to introduce heat and stress to it. Overall that is a really good restoration. Nice work.
Yeah that probably would’ve been better huh.
And to think, Charles Parker turned out some of the finest side-by-side shotguns ever manufactured. They are prized by collectors to this day.
Excellent, most impressive!!! That vice just said, "THNX, I'm home!!!" It never had it so good!
My favorite toy box shop ever. Thnx Chris!!! Always a pleasure to let us come and visit.
I collect Parker Vises and that beast is beautiful. Great job bringing it back to life.
nice repair.
One thing that's really important is to drill a hole at the end of the crack to eliminate the potential stress riser. I would have ground that crack all the way down to the bottom. If you get porosity, you HAVE to grind it out and start over. Welding over top of it is not what you want to do.
The Chas Parkers have a tendency to crack the head off the movable jaw. I've seen sooo many with that defect and have a nice big 6" that was all welded up with nickle. Nice vise, stronger now than it was new and I wouldn't want to give it up. Just watch it if you're really cranking down on something.
I just came here to see how many people told you what you "should have done". hahaha The RUclips experts did not disappoint! hahaha Nice job, enjoy the "new" vice.
NO es una restauración, PERO SI es una labor de recuperación de esta bella herramienta. "Ya no las hacen como antes". Un equipo de 1867 segun podemos ver en el cuerpo, hoy están reclicados en cualquier cantidad de cosas que ni idea tenemos¡¡. Este TORNILLO DE BANCO (así lo conocemos en México) ha sido resucitado de entre los muertos. Felicitaciones señor.
Love to see old tools saved from the scrapyard. Nice job!
Very well done and I think the utilitarian finish is the right approach. I bet the guys who originally made this nice would heartily approve as well 👍
If when welding cast iron with nickel rod but you can't get a clamp on it to close the cracks just use the rod's contraction; Put in a tack but don't peen it, just let it pull your gap tighter. Then ad another tack or two taking your time and check the alignment. You may have to grind out the earlier tacks as you go to allow the crack to shrink more. Proceed to weld using short (1" or so) welds and use pre & post heat and peening. I used this method to repaire a 2 foot long crack in an antique iron cauldron that had been left full of water to freeze. I only welded on the inside and the crack pulled up so tight it was barely visible on the outside. That was in 1983 and it's still holding.
this was super helpful as I have an old cracked vise I want to fix up as well. Thanks!
When I fix vises I do preheat but you may not have to. Quality vises such as these are not cast-iron it’s Cast-steel
it welds just fine with a mig welder. Great video!
Needle scalers are great for peening the welds and cleaning the slag. They are also great for giving cast metal a texture to look more natural under the paint.
I watched a video right after I did this project about peening welds with a scaler, definitely going to try that next time!
Epic work, absolute beast.. makes my little vice job I want to do tiny in comparison 👍👍👍
Love the old Parker vises, built to last another 100 years.
Although it is not perfect restore, yet I was expecting perfection of you as always. Bless you
Great job on the vise repair. I really enjoy your channel, you have really good content to show and share.
Great job.. Love that Wilton back there. Someday I hope to own one.
Pro Tip. To increase the fluid level in your rust remover dip tub, you can introduce ‘non-reactive’ materials such as glass marbles, certain stones such clean river rock. Or just poly bag the parts and remove the air so the liquid contacts all surfaces. The second method is not as effective unless you continue to remove the gas that accumulates inside because of the the chemical reaction between the rust and the rust remover.
👍nice video
Awesome craftsmanship all around.
What a beast!! And fantastic restore Chris!!!
bottlejack great idea
Nice job on functionally restoring the vise! I'm the same, restore a tool so its functional again and put it to work! Good job on the cast iron welding! I would definitely enjoy you tackling other tool restorations!
Such a great restoration
Great video really enjoyed it fantastic work with the vice looks spot on. Absolutely love your workshop 👍👍
Fantastic job and video! Keep cranking!
Big beautiful vise. Very nicely restoratioing Chris. Hopefully you get great use out of it for many years to come my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. Don't Die. God bless.
Nice restoration, it is very satisfying saving a good piece of equipment. 👍 Well done video.
Very good job.
Nicely done. Massive 💪💪💪
Good Job
Great video and rebuild. Mahalo for sharing! : )
Awesome work! Love the voice-over…
gotta coupla old big Reeds. finished one, the other is on the bench. gotta get a big Wilton some day
Nice repair man!
I just got myself a Charles Parker vice number 259 and it has a cracked back as well but it is actually missing material in the crack and I’m looking at how to properly fix that myself
DUDEZILLA, That vise is HUUUUUGE!
Mix 50/50 mix of Acetone and ATF in a spray bottle. Use to loosen rusted parts.
Nice vise, I have two very large vises, one I believe is six inch jaws, the other is eight inch I believe.
Very nice job. You should stop messing around with this small stuff and get a big one.
Great job. Should have welded the drilled hole in the dynamic jaw as well
Chris,
Out of curiosity did you consider dye penetrant testing to make sure you got all of the crack? Along with that, did you consider drill shopping the crack to assure the crack didn't propagate when you started adding heat.
When you were trying to free the vise did you consider using a pancake jack between the jaws? This would have placed the force closer to being parallel to where the vise was binding.
Your work is very good. I am glad your restoration is being done to put the vise back into service. My guess is your new vice is going to outlast you and your children.
Bob
great information. wonder how the nut was originally locked in
I used the NICAD rod to repair the vice but it was not strong enough to put force like new.
Never seen jaw faces that are pinned in place, that was new for me. Nice job on pinning the screw box in place, it needs to float a small bit so it doesn't break under extreme force, but it doesn't need to float out the back and punching it out from below should be easy peasy in 20 or 30 years.
Your guess is Educational for us. Great restore my friend as you learn we learn . Oh crap I was the number 666 on the likes here . Let us Pray , I cast you out evil spirit.. Haha can't take any chances😆😆😆
Nice video. I always learn something from watching you. The cast iron repairs are always a little scary. Is the hole for the spindle nut retaining pin on the side near “Pat”? That’s a great addition to any shop!
if it was me I'd replace that Wilton vise with the Parker
heat control is all you have to know and prep clean keep part hot keep cooling slow you should see methuselah's hair grow
you know someone was using the dynamic jaw slide (?) as an anvil and hence the crack.
Love the vice restoration videos! Do you sell them when finished or just add to the collection?
I don’t know what you paid for it but great buy and even better great save. That is one huge vice nice add to your shop.
Shoot I don’t know if I’d ever totally trust that piece.. no disrespect at all. You did it how I’ve seen other cast iron welded. But that’s a bad spot to have been weakened..
I think it’ll be okay tho. The more I see the repair the more I think it’ll be fine. Damn i really like that Vice. Look how much work went into the meatball. They built cool stuff back in the day.
I have the exact same issue now with a Monarch 220 Lions Head. I've tried everything to get the vise apart with no luck. I've been nervous to try the bottle jack that I may break it.??
If i was you i would put the back tip of the slide in another vice ans close up the cracke and pull out the welder
Overall it was a pretty decent effort no question about it. Something I would have liked to have seen would have been on the handle for the crank with the rounded ends instead of welding the one back on it would have been nice if you could have threaded them. That way that it could be removable fairly easily if you ever need to get the thing out again. It is definitely a bit of a beast though although I'm much more partial to the bullet Vise on your table just behind it
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Stainless steel screws will stretch. I would have used something different.
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Muriatic acid for concrete etching is inexpensive and really rips out pepper spots in metal. Super corrosive and generates a lot of dangerous fumes when applied, this process has to done outdoors with proper PPE. A bucket of water with a box of baking soda will neutralize your project effectively.
Pick up a jug at a big box home improvement store and try it out on a small rusty steel part. You will be impressed!
But it’s not made by WD40
how much you pay for that Parker at the fleamarket
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Braze would have probably have been stronger.
watch your heat over the entire part cold jaws and hot tail won't work
SEIZED... Spelling is EVERYTHING. LOL
99% percent nickel rod 5%flux 5%Steel some have copper which burns off
All you did was a put a bandaid onto a cut that needed stitches. You need to drill out a hole where the crack ends on both sides. And with Cast Iron you don’t weld it. You use brazening to repair the crack.
Cast iron can be repaired three ways. Brazing as you mentioned, arc welding using a high nickel content rod as was done here, and finally fusion welding with a gas torch and cast iron rod. I’ve done all three.
Your video looks & sounds more like a 'WD-40 Commercial' than a vise restoration...shame
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